The stupid thing about the no rear windscreen is that if you’re following a car you can often get a sense of what is going on ahead of them through the rear windscreen. I hate following a van etc for that reason. Honestly, this just seems completely unnecessary.
100%. So many times being able to.see through the car ahead makes for safer driving overall. There is literally no reason to have no window in this car especially when they have a giant pane on the roof.
@@nickthaskater Provided the vehicle has both left and right-side rear-view mirrors, there is no limit when it comes to tinting the back side windows and rear window in Canada.
I don't know this reviewer's name but I like his style. Not foaming-at-the-mouth over-exaggeration but equally not bland, and with nice understated humour - a balanced and considered review. Nice work.
maybe not ... but they are out to replace you too ... the tech giants will keep pushing AI until you don't need to drive, or go shopping, or heck .. even breath ... 'You are no longer needed - GAME OVER'
I'm okay with digital side-view mirrors because they can essentially remove nighttime glare and blind spots, but yea, not a big fan of digital rear-view mirrors. Moving your head or the mirror around to get a better look at something, is also lost with digital mirrors
If they remove any mirror it should be for a better option, this is not. I am used to driving vans that have nothing, you get used to it but still; why no rear window? its not a cheap car so it can not be the price.
I love that British people say "saloon" instead of "sedan." It always makes me imagine the car walking into an old western-style bar and letting people know this town ain't big enough for the both of us
For us older Brits, pubs used to be divided into two separate areas, often with different entrances, called the ‘Public’ bar and the ‘Saloon’ bar. The Saloon bar was the smarter of the two, often with carpet on the floor, slightly nicer material on seats/benches, and even curtains. The public bar was ‘spit n sawdust’. The saloon bar usually charged more for a pint, as much as 1-2p more. But in essence the word comes from the French word ‘salon’ - a sitting room or lounge, which is why it was used for the smarter part of the bar but also larger, smarter and more specious cars.👍
Gorgeous design. IMO Polestar has some of the best interior and exterior design in the industry. Sadly at these price points competiton is tough, and badge matters so much.
@@zacstarkey1369 Thank you - everything about this car reeks of 'trying to hit the Chinese market' ... in fact, thats where I recognise that rear end - its a Tuk Tuk
I don't understand modern cars. You get a massive skylight but no back wind shield. You get massive screens full of features that nobody wants. The car is also 30%-50% more expensive than most people can pay. And also you can't buy them because they have limited availability in select markets. I really don't get it.
i think things went kakka when they started to design for "dave, who does x job and has y hobbies, etc". somehow that approach divorced manufacturers from buyers. (or it could be they are designing for the chinese market, who want different things from a car than europeans)
@@s.tunafish you’re seriously telling me that somehow practically every manufacturer has decided to shift their focus from driving dynamics to focusing more on technology because they felt like it? Be serious now. They spend millions of dollars on research. They know the market is shifting towards younger, wealthy and more tech-savvy customers. It would be a stupid business decision to not follow the trend
Love this car. Lack of a rear window is a bit disorienting, but it's everything I want in a car. Clean elegant design, high tech, beautiful interior, sporty but comfortable and refined.
I can't believe they've skimped on the processor for the tablet again. The Polestar 2 one is so laggy that you would think they wouldn't make the same mistake. What difference does it make for a couple of hundred quid processor in a 60k+ car??
I saw one today for the first time. The silly thing is there is a separate metal? panel where the back window should be just like one of those cheap vans they make based on cars.
I drove the new Range Rover Vogue with a camera for the rear view mirror and it wasnt a great experience because its so much harder to judge the distance of the car behind
That's a dishonest review if prior to publishing you knew the first 3/4 of the video was a review of a "broken" car. If they gave you access to a working, standard release of the car; why wouldn't you just do the review of that? Seems complaining just for the sake of complaining.
Well maybe the car company should give a car that works. TG dont want to reshoot everything, that would cost money. Rather than them being dishonest, use your brain.
So if you don’t like what he said about your car it’s somehow subjective and should be objective? It’s called a review. And in a review guess what? It’s not objective it’s subjective because it’s his opinion based on his experiences with this car.
For a moment there I thought polestar 4 driving experience was bad and IF I didn’t watch the entire video I would have left with that opinion on my mind. Glad I watched it entirely but this can fool other viewers and get the wrong idea.
4:59 Imagine having to press a touch sensitive screen 9 times while driving before something actually works. God I hate this trend of removing physical buttons.
@@sebastianstoica578 Hoo-effing-ray! I't illegal to use a phone whilst driving because it's known to be dangerous and yet we get a big iPad to faff around with to alter which direction air vents blow.
The lag on the tablet alone is a massive dealbreaker :-( If ai’m driving and want to quickly press something, I need to trust it will do that thing without me thinking about it. If I have to properly look at the screen and babysit it, then it becomes a dangerous distraction
Agreed. I think they should have regulations on screen responsiveness since it is a safety issue to have a system unresponsive to inputs. If that happened with buttons it would never pass.
This car and some of its design (key, rear window) can be summed up bu this quote from some bloke called James May "It's an ingenious solution to a problem that should have never existed in the first place"
I've found the dinosaur chat room! I can imagine someone said, "oh but this fancy rear view mirror is just unnecessary complexity of technology". Any technology can be made as reliable as the previous generation.
It allows the rear roll structure to be moved rearwards instead of above the rear passengers, which means a low roof line (for aero) without compromising rear headroom and a large glass roof. Many cars already compromise this with poor rear visibility
Not having a single button to switch between custom (user defined) and sport is dumb. They need to add that in a software update. One button, one click. I don’t want to have to navigate through screens. Ideally that button would be on the steering wheel but it’s too late for that. Also I agree about the key fob. It needs buttons. I mean most of the time I just use keyless entry but sometimes I need the buttons e.g. my partner is trying to get into the car and I’m still locking the front door, I can just click the button and she can get into the car. Seems cheap to remove the buttons. Also a new key fob makes the whole experience of owning the car nicer. I have an Audi and I like the key fob. It’s solid with metal parts and feels appropriate given the quality of the car. That fob that you showed us looked like a brick of plastic. Apart from those complaints though, that car looks fantastic. Good work polestar.
My fear is that when looking at the rear through the mirror, normally you see things at the distance they are which means you focus at them at a distance. I am farsighted which means with and LCD screen my eyes need to focus on the screen which is about half a meter or less away. I won't be able to focus on it :(
Yup, that was my thought exactly after testing one. You can't quickly glance in mirror, you have to look and consciously refocus, which doesn't sound like much, but it is jarring and feels/is markedly slower. To make things worse the mirror feels much closer to you than normal which exacerbates the issue if you are long sighted. The mirror in our Enyaq is significantly further away.
@@evolune I use the side mirrors. I also use the rearview mirror. I don't have a backup camera. I didn't say in the original comment that it would be impossible... But it sure is made more difficult.
The Polestar 4 I test drove in Germany had the same touchscreen problems as you had. The assistants were also extremely bad. But driving it manually was insanely good. It's far away from perfect right now.
Works great in warm countries, but here in Sweden we get -20° in the winter. No buttons on the remote, what if the electrical system fails. Again, in the winter doors freeze shut if you don’t use anti freeze oil. Leaver for the fron bagage compartment, is it still the 80’s? Laggy screen, how do you change windscreen defroster on the go? Soon enough there won’t be a windscreen, just a huge 60” display. -kan man få en kopp kaffe?
Umm….. so like every other vehicle with a moronic touch screen, you’ll need to stop the car (somewhere safe!) just to adjust the heater with a finger on your right hand, but in right hand drive countries, these actions will require people to use their left hand….. ooops . No, give me a knob or a button that I can find without taking my eyes off the road. Touch screens in cars benefit no one other than the manufacturer by saving them costs, just like run flat tyres, another nightmare inflicted on owners. 😎
0:18 The term coupe and sedan has nothing to do with the number of doors a vehicle has, that's a common misconception, it's based on how the roof is shaped. There are 2 door sedans and there are 4 door coupes.
Like legendary Franco (Raul Julia) in THE Greatest Car Movie ever made would say: "Whats'a behind me is NOT important" (as he just ripped his rear-view mirror from his Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona spider) 🤣
Excellent unbiased review with super information that is tangible and real, yes, we'll take the single motor Polestar 4 option thankyou...as we've thoroughly enjoyed our Polestar 2 for the past few years.
I have the same digital rear view mirror in my '24 Volvo V60 Polestar Engineered wagon and it's weird. I rarely use it and prefer the regular optical rear view mirror.
I’ve been to the HQ and they’re designed and developed in Sweden. Obviously still reliant on China for the battery however Volvo and polestar will have in house battery production soon. Thepolestar 3 will also be manufactured in California and the polestar 5 is being developed in the UK with lotus collaboration on the chassis and all the impressive driving dynamics they’re renowned for. So whilst Geely are Chinese, the entire dna from design to development is entirely polestar and then built up in China. Say what you want but you should test drive one and fall in love with the dynamics and balance of the brembos and the dual valve dampers.
Not very honest video, you should have clearly stated that it was not a fully working car, and that you review an updated one on minute 15:10, which is way better.
I think this model standards should be lowered and go for a WV ID.4 as competition. Mostly because of how it looks. There's no way that this model fits in the SUV category. And is so different from the Macan that any sort of comparison is just ridiculous.
The two keys the Polestar 2 comes with are fine, not sure why they felt the need to change the main key (which has buttons on the polestar 2) as it was essentially already the same key as any Volvo out there.
The key is the same design as the one that comes with the Volvo EX30, which also has no buttons. I presume that Polestar just chose to go the same route due to availability.
Well that's basically how they market it. From the Polestar website: "Polestar 4 has been engineered to combine SUV comfort with sports coupe handling and performance, resulting in a balanced and highly responsive car. In fact, it's the quickest production Polestar to date."
Oooof, that laggy screen immediately put me off. I hate this trend of *all* controls being touch screen now but I accept times are a changin' and it keeps manufacturing costs down to have all controls run through a single point. However if the controls are 100% touch screen then a laggy screen isn't just annoying, it's potentially dangerous. Anything that extends the period of time you're not looking at the road is an issue. Kinda hoping as time goes on there will be minimum lag time standard brought in for in-car UIs
I've got bi-focal glasses, the bottom third of them is focused for short distance (reading instruments) and the top part is focused for distance (looking out), so what happens when I look at the "mirror"? I'll be looking through the top part of my glasses at a TV screen very close, so it will be out of focus. I haven't tried this yet, am I wrong? Sounds like a dealbreaker for me and a clanger by Polestar.
@@oyuyuy You missed the point. Your flash of inspiration would only work if I changed to the second pair of glasses every time I looked in the mirror. Maybe I can afford them, but I'm not doing that.
It's kinda cool, but it's just too complicated. Also, how much would it cost you with all these sensors and cameras everywhere if you ever have a small accident or need servicing?
This seems to be all new cars at the moment. So much unnecessary tech and I don’t want any of it! Go, stop, decent stereo. With electric power that should be easy and bulletproof
I test drove the new Polestar 2 single and dual motor this weekend and I had the same conclusion that the single motor was actually nicer to drive than the dual. However, I felt that both were pretty "boring" when it came to everyday driving. They just felt slow and sluggish. Sure, if you put your foot down, the dual motor would take off, but when just driving around like normal they both felt tired, with little excitement and fun. I also did not feel much difference between the single and dual motor in everyday city driving. They should definitely have a Sport mode button. I look forward to test drive the Polestar 4, but after seeing this I am not holding my breath.
I have performance version and it is not slow or sluggish. Without performance pack accelaration pedal is tuned for 'long press' mode, which I also felt is too slow reaction or you need to press quite a bit to get power. But decision is to get normal or performance and then you get what you want.
So it sounds like the P4 handles a bit like the P2 then (both have sprung suspension - not air suspension like the P3) - heavy, little bit of understeer, but well planted and very little body roll (with those heavy batteries on the deck, that's not really much of a surprise). Hopefully the P4 handles bumps and pot-holes better than the P2 ... I look forward to a test drive (August apparently ...) 🚗⚡💨😁
So why no rear window. What's the benefit? All i can see are negatives, less visability, less safety, extra weight, extra complication, extra cost. I just don't understand the logic.
There’s an entire video by polestar saying why they went with this design. Also you should check out the visibility comparison (at night too) with a regular rear view mirror
It allows the rear roll structure to be moved rearwards instead of above the rear passengers, which means a low roof line (for aero) without compromising rear headroom and a large glass roof. Many cars already compromise this with poor rear visibility
No back glass?!!! Some of dumbest ideas like cybertruck that reviewers won't tell companies...the emperor's new clothes is his nakedness which is not a good sight.
I drive a P2. Everyone in the car gets jostled on bad roads. unless polestar fixes the suspension to be electronically adjustable, i wont buy one. It is TOO BUMPY
@@SDK2006b Geely said several months ago that they weren't going to financially support Polestar any longer. There is a strong chance that they wont survive in its current structure.
@@allomony4010 - You're thinking of Volvo (also owned by Geely). which announced that. Here's Geely's statement about it: Geely CEO Daniel Li, also a Polestar board member, said the Chinese automaker would continue backing Polestar. "Geely will continue to provide full operational and financial support to the iconic performance car brand going forward," Li said[May 2024] Lets stop the fake news now !
Amazing & innovative. Driver gets more visibility with the digital rear view mirror and more head space in the back seats. Can be a challenge getting used to but serves a nice purpose
The video mirrors are especially useless for tall drivers. Totally messes with your vision and focus, let alone the sun glare. My wife has one and I can only deal with it by focusing on the road, leaning to the right of the seat, and never using it, unless necessary.
I love laggy screen, no rear window, (recycled) garbage interior approach ... it really screams luxury ! I am sure that all the Bentley, Porsche and Maserati owners are already making deposits.
With the touch screens, no real buttons, cameras, and now no back window...they're just making things less comfortable to use and drive but they do it because they need to appear high tech.
It's a really great place to be. That car interior is pretty special. The 4 is generally too big for me, so I'd rather have a 2, but damn the interior feels like such a big step forward.
why does it have no rear window? what is the reason for that design choice? aerodynamics? or is it so that the entire functionality of the car can in one more regard hinge on the reliability of a piece of technology? also, as a british institution, shouldn't a frunk be a froot?
I like the no rear window. - Improves the vibes and lighting. - Better backseat headroom. - The instant camera update when indicating is snappy and responsive, reducing your blindspots. - Unlike conventional rearview mirrors, regardless of where you point the mirror you'll get an unbiased view. Meaning you an point it directly at you with no negative effects. I see why it could be annoying and yeah, it reduces depth perception, but I think it does what it sets out to do well.
I hope they did something with the suspension, and shock system. When I rode in one. Every single bump was horrible. It was like the car wheels, was welded straight to the frame horrible. Like an early carriage.
Maybe you drove performance version and maybe shocks were adjusted to be hard... but it is sporty car anyway and not supposed to be soft. And if you really want soft car, then just look for other brands.
@@mho0 it's a different from a stiff suspension. Than if a car hits a slight bump, it's like the whole thing is rattling apart. The earlier version I rode in had the suspension characteristics of a horse, and buggy carriage. I thought okay this is a start up. But then I found out that they were backed by Volvo. Then I thought completely unacceptable!!!!!!
@@michaelbush9603 weird ... I do not have that experience. Feels pretty solid in bumps. Performance versions also have Öhlins shocks, which are pretty much best in the industry.
Tom the best Polestar 4 review, jour videos are so entertaining, keep it up with great work. Can't wait for Polestar to put 2 on a dedicated EV platform, and would love to see Polestar car like the Volvo S60 Cross Country :)
I own the Polestar 2 performance pack (or my own version of it with a set of Heico coilovers and OZ wheels and Pilot Sport 4ses). I think so far its the only Polestar I like and want to keep. Other than not needing any bigger the performance/range bump is not worth the extra money. Also am not a fan of SUVs in general. So far I like the Polestar 4s over other EVs in its class (other than the Macan EV), but I don't see the making the monetary sacrifice to jump from my Polestar 2 to this. On top of liking the Polestar 2 looking more like an evil Volvo, this looks more like an appliance. I think I'd rather look for a second-hand Macan EV in the future though.
Gorgeous car, but why go Tesla and ifx something that aint broken? I’d rather have a vehicle with a rear glass for all sorts of conditions. Replacing it with tech introduces more problems.
Quick question. What about half of the drivers who suffers from Presbyopia. Can you somehow adjust the focus of the rear view screen or hasn't anyone thought about that at Polestar?
14:17 yeah I was never confident that something like this could be sporty. Its a daily, a commuter car. Will most likely have great road control but you wouldn’t buy this if you wanted a vehicle to he occasionally fun
Nice number plate
Some drivers may prefer SCHLICK but I doubt that is an option.
2005 called and wants it Chatroom back
@@PowerOfTheBlues Fap fap fap fap.
My plate is HVATUG
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The stupid thing about the no rear windscreen is that if you’re following a car you can often get a sense of what is going on ahead of them through the rear windscreen. I hate following a van etc for that reason. Honestly, this just seems completely unnecessary.
100%. So many times being able to.see through the car ahead makes for safer driving overall.
There is literally no reason to have no window in this car especially when they have a giant pane on the roof.
These days so many rear windows are tinted very dark, you can't see through them anymore.
@@nickthaskater I doubt it.
@@nickthaskater Provided the vehicle has both left and right-side rear-view mirrors, there is no limit when it comes to tinting the back side windows and rear window in Canada.
@@S.1-I-I-1-1 I'm glad you car quote the first Google search result. I stand corrected.
‘From cows that didn’t mind having thier skin taken off them’ 😂
I was just about to type this lmao
Swedish cows are quite polite and helpful this way.
@@mufflejoy Production is in China - so no Swedish cows involved. 😉
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Fastvoice also Busan, South Korea in an old Renault plant.
I don't know this reviewer's name but I like his style. Not foaming-at-the-mouth over-exaggeration but equally not bland, and with nice understated humour - a balanced and considered review. Nice work.
Tom Ford
Used to present Fifth gear
Used to be a British TV presenter.
IMO, cameras and screens will never be able to 100% replace a real mirror as you lose the sense of depth offered by actual mirrors
maybe not ... but they are out to replace you too ... the tech giants will keep pushing AI until you don't need to drive, or go shopping, or heck .. even breath ... 'You are no longer needed - GAME OVER'
I wouldn’t say never.
With our current tech/cost effective, no.
I do hate them as well though.
I'm okay with digital side-view mirrors because they can essentially remove nighttime glare and blind spots, but yea, not a big fan of digital rear-view mirrors. Moving your head or the mirror around to get a better look at something, is also lost with digital mirrors
If they remove any mirror it should be for a better option, this is not. I am used to driving vans that have nothing, you get used to it but still; why no rear window? its not a cheap car so it can not be the price.
They did in mirrorless camera's and its completely fine now on the higher end models
We continue our long march to reinventing the station wagon lmao
I love that British people say "saloon" instead of "sedan." It always makes me imagine the car walking into an old western-style bar and letting people know this town ain't big enough for the both of us
For us older Brits, pubs used to be divided into two separate areas, often with different entrances, called the ‘Public’ bar and the ‘Saloon’ bar. The Saloon bar was the smarter of the two, often with carpet on the floor, slightly nicer material on seats/benches, and even curtains. The public bar was ‘spit n sawdust’. The saloon bar usually charged more for a pint, as much as 1-2p more. But in essence the word comes from the French word ‘salon’ - a sitting room or lounge, which is why it was used for the smarter part of the bar but also larger, smarter and more specious cars.👍
@@leangrypoulet7523 ahhh that makes sense. My Gran's old Morris was definitely a Spit N Sawdust car.
Gorgeous design. IMO Polestar has some of the best interior and exterior design in the industry. Sadly at these price points competiton is tough, and badge matters so much.
It's what Tesla's interiors should be like
To me, the car doesn't look any better without rear windscreen, what's the point?
Head room in the back apparently
And cheaper to produce ...lighter weight@@ravingmad765
Finding idiots !😂
It's called a gimmick
cost cutting
I missed the point of not having a rear window.
Chinese market - owners will pay a driver - don't need it and will feel more secure ... I suspect that's the truth of it.
Cost reduction, looks fancy and the designers can play more
@@peterschutzerd7238 But they put in complete glass roofs. I would rather have a glass rear window.
@@JIMMYHIBBS1actually sound logic tbf
@@zacstarkey1369 Thank you - everything about this car reeks of 'trying to hit the Chinese market' ... in fact, thats where I recognise that rear end - its a Tuk Tuk
I don't understand modern cars. You get a massive skylight but no back wind shield. You get massive screens full of features that nobody wants. The car is also 30%-50% more expensive than most people can pay. And also you can't buy them because they have limited availability in select markets. I really don't get it.
i think things went kakka when they started to design for "dave, who does x job and has y hobbies, etc".
somehow that approach divorced manufacturers from buyers.
(or it could be they are designing for the chinese market, who want different things from a car than europeans)
It’s what consumers obviously want. If they wanted something else, no manufacturer would be going the Tesla route lol
@@s.tunafish you’re seriously telling me that somehow practically every manufacturer has decided to shift their focus from driving dynamics to focusing more on technology because they felt like it? Be serious now. They spend millions of dollars on research. They know the market is shifting towards younger, wealthy and more tech-savvy customers. It would be a stupid business decision to not follow the trend
@@gavcom4060I hate that this is the reality
@@vannustube It's chinese owned, definitely their main market.
Looks like an updated version of the Volvo S60 Cross Country. I like it!
Love this car. Lack of a rear window is a bit disorienting, but it's everything I want in a car. Clean elegant design, high tech, beautiful interior, sporty but comfortable and refined.
Love the plates on this car 😂
Would you please explain the significance of it for us non-Brits?
@davidg3944 fap is another term for playing with one's self ( PG way of explaining it, lol )
@@papanani7613 Ah, I guess I only noted the plate on the second car...
@@davidg3944 you can say that the number plates means FAP 18 Mature
😂😂😂 I noticed that too 😂😂 And yes I know what it means. Lol
Full glass roof but no rear window is a crazy decision.
I can't believe they've skimped on the processor for the tablet again. The Polestar 2 one is so laggy that you would think they wouldn't make the same mistake. What difference does it make for a couple of hundred quid processor in a 60k+ car??
Not true at all, as smooth as teslas OS
@@errorerror4039 it seems like you did not see it in the video? I have to agree with Thomas on this
@@JerraPremium i own one
It seems that the screen in this test car is somewhat malfunctioning, based on other reviews I have watched where the screen has no lack at all
@@errorerror4039
I recently was riding in a polestar 2 2023, the screen had massive bezels and wasn’t the smoothest
I saw one today for the first time. The silly thing is there is a separate metal? panel where the back window should be just like one of those cheap vans they make based on cars.
I drove the new Range Rover Vogue with a camera for the rear view mirror and it wasnt a great experience because its so much harder to judge the distance of the car behind
That's a dishonest review if prior to publishing you knew the first 3/4 of the video was a review of a "broken" car. If they gave you access to a working, standard release of the car; why wouldn't you just do the review of that? Seems complaining just for the sake of complaining.
Well maybe the car company should give a car that works. TG dont want to reshoot everything, that would cost money. Rather than them being dishonest, use your brain.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez Ah, describing what happened isn't objective? I will make a note.
So if you don’t like what he said about your car it’s somehow subjective and should be objective? It’s called a review. And in a review guess what? It’s not objective it’s subjective because it’s his opinion based on his experiences with this car.
Lol, stop shilling for Volvo/Polestar. Why didn't they give reviewers a working car from the jump
For a moment there I thought polestar 4 driving experience was bad and IF I didn’t watch the entire video I would have left with that opinion on my mind. Glad I watched it entirely but this can fool other viewers and get the wrong idea.
4:59 Imagine having to press a touch sensitive screen 9 times while driving before something actually works. God I hate this trend of removing physical buttons.
I believe that from next year, EuroNCAP will start deducting points from cars lacking physical buttons for essential functions.
@@sebastianstoica578 Hoo-effing-ray! I't illegal to use a phone whilst driving because it's known to be dangerous and yet we get a big iPad to faff around with to alter which direction air vents blow.
The lag on the tablet alone is a massive dealbreaker :-(
If ai’m driving and want to quickly press something, I need to trust it will do that thing without me thinking about it. If I have to properly look at the screen and babysit it, then it becomes a dangerous distraction
Agreed. I think they should have regulations on screen responsiveness since it is a safety issue to have a system unresponsive to inputs. If that happened with buttons it would never pass.
I played with it today and it sucked..it is terribly lacky
It’s a pre-production car… software issues should be addressed by final release.
It not lagging at all. I have a Polestar 2 and haven't seen any ever. Nor have I heard about people complaining about it.
@@pyramusk3264 tried it my self in person
Absolutely stunning design on this thing 😍
This car and some of its design (key, rear window) can be summed up bu this quote from some bloke called James May
"It's an ingenious solution to a problem that should have never existed in the first place"
I agree. There's no need for a key, just use your phone.
I've found the dinosaur chat room! I can imagine someone said, "oh but this fancy rear view mirror is just unnecessary complexity of technology". Any technology can be made as reliable as the previous generation.
Why not extend that glass roof all the way to the back? D'errr!!!..
Enables the rear seats to be placed further back
Yep same as the Tesla’s do. Seems strange to do this?
The roof bracing that would be restricting headroom has been set further back
It allows the rear roll structure to be moved rearwards instead of above the rear passengers, which means a low roof line (for aero) without compromising rear headroom and a large glass roof. Many cars already compromise this with poor rear visibility
Consider how that would work out in a rear end collision. Removing the rear window is actually a safety feature in this design.
Not having a single button to switch between custom (user defined) and sport is dumb. They need to add that in a software update. One button, one click. I don’t want to have to navigate through screens. Ideally that button would be on the steering wheel but it’s too late for that.
Also I agree about the key fob. It needs buttons. I mean most of the time I just use keyless entry but sometimes I need the buttons e.g. my partner is trying to get into the car and I’m still locking the front door, I can just click the button and she can get into the car. Seems cheap to remove the buttons. Also a new key fob makes the whole experience of owning the car nicer. I have an Audi and I like the key fob. It’s solid with metal parts and feels appropriate given the quality of the car. That fob that you showed us looked like a brick of plastic.
Apart from those complaints though, that car looks fantastic. Good work polestar.
My dad works at polestar with the handling so hope you like it
Next thing is gonna be an option to add a retractable “air bag” for your glass roof for areas prone to hail storms.
I’ve sat in a few Polestars. I recently chose a Volvo instead due a more down to earth kind of feeling about it.
Thanks for the entertaining video.
My fear is that when looking at the rear through the mirror, normally you see things at the distance they are which means you focus at them at a distance. I am farsighted which means with and LCD screen my eyes need to focus on the screen which is about half a meter or less away. I won't be able to focus on it :(
Yup, that was my thought exactly after testing one. You can't quickly glance in mirror, you have to look and consciously refocus, which doesn't sound like much, but it is jarring and feels/is markedly slower. To make things worse the mirror feels much closer to you than normal which exacerbates the issue if you are long sighted. The mirror in our Enyaq is significantly further away.
No rear window but a 3meter glass roof to see the stars😁
The laggy screen UI makes it an instant non-starter. I could not live with that.
Perpendicularly backing into a tight shopping mall parking spot must be a lot of fun with that missing back window :D
I have a large rear window on my car but I only use the backup camera and parking sensors… I never use the rear mirror.
You use the 360 degree camera.
Or you know, use your side mirrors. I don't like the missing rear windscreen, but it shouldn't be an excuse not to be able to park the car.
@@evolune I use the side mirrors. I also use the rearview mirror. I don't have a backup camera. I didn't say in the original comment that it would be impossible... But it sure is made more difficult.
Got a back window on my Tesla Model Y but never use it for reversing. Just use the rear view camera and Teslavision park assist.
The Polestar 4 I test drove in Germany had the same touchscreen problems as you had. The assistants were also extremely bad. But driving it manually was insanely good. It's far away from perfect right now.
Works great in warm countries, but here in Sweden we get -20° in the winter. No buttons on the remote, what if the electrical system fails. Again, in the winter doors freeze shut if you don’t use anti freeze oil. Leaver for the fron bagage compartment, is it still the 80’s?
Laggy screen, how do you change windscreen defroster on the go?
Soon enough there won’t be a windscreen, just a huge 60” display. -kan man få en kopp kaffe?
Love that number plate 😂
2024, where Top Gear is Fifth Gear.
Losing the rear window isn't an issue (but then again i drove trucks for a living)
Good luck not crashing in 5 o’clock LA traffic surrounded by Semi’s when merging… 🤦🏾♂️
Umm….. so like every other vehicle with a moronic touch screen, you’ll need to stop the car (somewhere safe!) just to adjust the heater with a finger on your right hand, but in right hand drive countries, these actions will require people to use their left hand….. ooops . No, give me a knob or a button that I can find without taking my eyes off the road. Touch screens in cars benefit no one other than the manufacturer by saving them costs, just like run flat tyres, another nightmare inflicted on owners. 😎
I believe they’ll put in a rear window 2027 and these early cars will be somewhat infamous
Or they'll consult Mr X to the Z Xzibit and replace it by a screen for the ultimate 'hater-vision' 😅
0:18 The term coupe and sedan has nothing to do with the number of doors a vehicle has, that's a common misconception, it's based on how the roof is shaped. There are 2 door sedans and there are 4 door coupes.
Like legendary Franco (Raul Julia) in THE Greatest Car Movie ever made would say: "Whats'a behind me is NOT important" (as he just ripped his rear-view mirror from his Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona spider) 🤣
Who ?
Excellent unbiased review with super information that is tangible and real, yes, we'll take the single motor Polestar 4 option thankyou...as we've thoroughly enjoyed our Polestar 2 for the past few years.
4:48 that drum background noise is really irritating
Never knew Uranus was -195C and blue. Thanks for the insight!
They should have made the 4 as a regular old school Volvo 245 wagon.
Go all out for a 262C!
I have the same digital rear view mirror in my '24 Volvo V60 Polestar Engineered wagon and it's weird. I rarely use it and prefer the regular optical rear view mirror.
Polestar and Volvo perfectly encapsulates Sweden and Swedes
none of them are Swedish
Although Polestar headquarters are in Gothenburg Sweden. They are also designed there. Ownership and manufacturing is in China.
I’ve been to the HQ and they’re designed and developed in Sweden. Obviously still reliant on China for the battery however Volvo and polestar will have in house battery production soon. Thepolestar 3 will also be manufactured in California and the polestar 5 is being developed in the UK with lotus collaboration on the chassis and all the impressive driving dynamics they’re renowned for. So whilst Geely are Chinese, the entire dna from design to development is entirely polestar and then built up in China. Say what you want but you should test drive one and fall in love with the dynamics and balance of the brembos and the dual valve dampers.
Not very honest video, you should have clearly stated that it was not a fully working car, and that you review an updated one on minute 15:10, which is way better.
I think this model standards should be lowered and go for a WV ID.4 as competition. Mostly because of how it looks. There's no way that this model fits in the SUV category. And is so different from the Macan that any sort of comparison is just ridiculous.
Different as in way better for far less money?
The two keys the Polestar 2 comes with are fine, not sure why they felt the need to change the main key (which has buttons on the polestar 2) as it was essentially already the same key as any Volvo out there.
The key is the same design as the one that comes with the Volvo EX30, which also has no buttons. I presume that Polestar just chose to go the same route due to availability.
You have to stop reviewing every vehicle as a sports car!!!!! This is not!!!
Well that's basically how they market it. From the Polestar website: "Polestar 4 has been engineered to combine SUV comfort with sports coupe handling and performance, resulting in a balanced and highly responsive car. In fact, it's the quickest production Polestar to date."
Oooof, that laggy screen immediately put me off. I hate this trend of *all* controls being touch screen now but I accept times are a changin' and it keeps manufacturing costs down to have all controls run through a single point. However if the controls are 100% touch screen then a laggy screen isn't just annoying, it's potentially dangerous. Anything that extends the period of time you're not looking at the road is an issue. Kinda hoping as time goes on there will be minimum lag time standard brought in for in-car UIs
That is a very nice looking car. Just enough personality.
I've got bi-focal glasses, the bottom third of them is focused for short distance (reading instruments) and the top part is focused for distance (looking out), so what happens when I look at the "mirror"? I'll be looking through the top part of my glasses at a TV screen very close, so it will be out of focus. I haven't tried this yet, am I wrong? Sounds like a dealbreaker for me and a clanger by Polestar.
it's not that close to you, it's not reading distance, that helps alot.
If you can't afford a second pair of glasses I doubt that's the dealbreaker for you
@@oyuyuy You missed the point. Your flash of inspiration would only work if I changed to the second pair of glasses every time I looked in the mirror. Maybe I can afford them, but I'm not doing that.
@@modernschoolatlas If you can "maybe afford" a 2nd pair of glasses you can't afford a Polestar 4
As usual Polestar absolutely nails the bodywork
I', on the fence about the rear windscreen, but maybe something similar could be employed to alleviate the necessity of side mirrors?
It's kinda cool, but it's just too complicated. Also, how much would it cost you with all these sensors and cameras everywhere if you ever have a small accident or need servicing?
This seems to be all new cars at the moment. So much unnecessary tech and I don’t want any of it! Go, stop, decent stereo. With electric power that should be easy and bulletproof
How do you unlock and lock the car if it dont have buttons on the key? 🙄🙄
Do you have to be close than it auto unlock?
Nice Geely! This about as Swedish as Peking Duck!
Love the review, seemed like you really had fun doing it
Polestar makes the best looking EVs both exterior and interior. In my opinion.
Excellent review thank yig
Polestar just came last in the JD Power rankings
I test drove the new Polestar 2 single and dual motor this weekend and I had the same conclusion that the single motor was actually nicer to drive than the dual. However, I felt that both were pretty "boring" when it came to everyday driving. They just felt slow and sluggish. Sure, if you put your foot down, the dual motor would take off, but when just driving around like normal they both felt tired, with little excitement and fun. I also did not feel much difference between the single and dual motor in everyday city driving. They should definitely have a Sport mode button. I look forward to test drive the Polestar 4, but after seeing this I am not holding my breath.
I have performance version and it is not slow or sluggish. Without performance pack accelaration pedal is tuned for 'long press' mode, which I also felt is too slow reaction or you need to press quite a bit to get power. But decision is to get normal or performance and then you get what you want.
The JD Power survey shows that in the first 3 months of Polestar ownership, they will be taken back to the dealership 319 times per 100 cars.
Yes saw that as well-Bottom of the league table 🚗👎
Sure 🤔🤣
It’s the same as reading Amazon reviews - every product sucks and you wouldn’t buy anything if you based buying decisions on the reviews!
That’s entirely due to a software error that was bricking cars and was solved over a year ago.
The people who filled out Power's survey had an axe to grind, clearly. 🤣
@@niradgupta4075 Lol Geely creating problems that shouldn't even exist lol
So it sounds like the P4 handles a bit like the P2 then (both have sprung suspension - not air suspension like the P3) - heavy, little bit of understeer, but well planted and very little body roll (with those heavy batteries on the deck, that's not really much of a surprise). Hopefully the P4 handles bumps and pot-holes better than the P2 ... I look forward to a test drive (August apparently ...) 🚗⚡💨😁
So why no rear window. What's the benefit? All i can see are negatives, less visability, less safety, extra weight, extra complication, extra cost. I just don't understand the logic.
There’s an entire video by polestar saying why they went with this design. Also you should check out the visibility comparison (at night too) with a regular rear view mirror
@@doritos7134plenty of other videos that explain it. People are just lazy
It allows the rear roll structure to be moved rearwards instead of above the rear passengers, which means a low roof line (for aero) without compromising rear headroom and a large glass roof. Many cars already compromise this with poor rear visibility
Safety hazard for drivers behind it!
Why would there be extra weight? Glass is heavier than sheetmetal or plastic.
With all those cameras, does it have Sentry Mode or Dashcam mode?
Nope
No back glass?!!! Some of dumbest ideas like cybertruck that reviewers won't tell companies...the emperor's new clothes is his nakedness which is not a good sight.
Guessing you’ve never sat in one. Maybe do that first before passing judgement…
Learn how to use mirrors ffs
The lag at @12:48 is all I need to know about this car. No thanks.
Polestar is in financial trouble...... Wonder why?
Videos from the US highlighting that depreciation is off the charts for the P2 put me off the brand.
I drive a P2. Everyone in the car gets jostled on bad roads. unless polestar fixes the suspension to be electronically adjustable, i wont buy one. It is TOO BUMPY
Polestar reveals billions in losses; company in distress as debts grow
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Polestar is owned by Geely, which has $12bn of cash.
Also in 2023, Polestar lost $414.7 million, not " Billions"
@mrmawsob2438 you watch that rubbish UA-cam channel?🤣
@@SDK2006b Geely said several months ago that they weren't going to financially support Polestar any longer. There is a strong chance that they wont survive in its current structure.
@@allomony4010 - You're thinking of Volvo (also owned by Geely). which announced that.
Here's Geely's statement about it: Geely CEO Daniel Li, also a Polestar board member, said the Chinese automaker would continue backing Polestar. "Geely will continue to provide full operational and financial support to the iconic performance car brand going forward," Li said[May 2024]
Lets stop the fake news now !
What do you think of Polestar’s choice to forgo a rear windscreen?
Amazing & innovative. Driver gets more visibility with the digital rear view mirror and more head space in the back seats. Can be a challenge getting used to but serves a nice purpose
The video mirrors are especially useless for tall drivers. Totally messes with your vision and focus, let alone the sun glare. My wife has one and I can only deal with it by focusing on the road, leaning to the right of the seat, and never using it, unless necessary.
@@doritos7134 Visibility is literally worse, and also digitally worse.
Are you D U M B?@@doritos7134
Incredibly stupid
I love laggy screen, no rear window, (recycled) garbage interior approach ... it really screams luxury ! I am sure that all the Bentley, Porsche and Maserati owners are already making deposits.
This is definitely the best looking polestar
There's way too much weird happening in Polestar cars! That's why the brand is struggling!
Is the speed limit reduced on a roads due to no rear windscreen? Like vans have
I see it’s time to sell that few remaining Polestar shares I still have before they tank even more.
Roadtripping around northern and Central Europe you routinely do stints 500-600 kilometers. On the motorway.
Looks really.... really Chinese... Chinese platform, Chinese tech... Now Chinese styling.
It's build in China after all
With the touch screens, no real buttons, cameras, and now no back window...they're just making things less comfortable to use and drive but they do it because they need to appear high tech.
It's a really great place to be. That car interior is pretty special. The 4 is generally too big for me, so I'd rather have a 2, but damn the interior feels like such a big step forward.
why does it have no rear window? what is the reason for that design choice? aerodynamics? or is it so that the entire functionality of the car can in one more regard hinge on the reliability of a piece of technology? also, as a british institution, shouldn't a frunk be a froot?
Makes the rear seats much better. Headroom, glass much further back, more light
More space at the back.
I like the no rear window.
- Improves the vibes and lighting.
- Better backseat headroom.
- The instant camera update when indicating is snappy and responsive, reducing your blindspots.
- Unlike conventional rearview mirrors, regardless of where you point the mirror you'll get an unbiased view. Meaning you an point it directly at you with no negative effects.
I see why it could be annoying and yeah, it reduces depth perception, but I think it does what it sets out to do well.
I hope they did something with the suspension, and shock system. When I rode in one. Every single bump was horrible. It was like the car wheels, was welded straight to the frame horrible. Like an early carriage.
Maybe you drove performance version and maybe shocks were adjusted to be hard... but it is sporty car anyway and not supposed to be soft. And if you really want soft car, then just look for other brands.
@@mho0 it's a different from a stiff suspension. Than if a car hits a slight bump, it's like the whole thing is rattling apart. The earlier version I rode in had the suspension characteristics of a horse, and buggy carriage. I thought okay this is a start up. But then I found out that they were backed by Volvo. Then I thought completely unacceptable!!!!!!
@@michaelbush9603 weird ... I do not have that experience. Feels pretty solid in bumps.
Performance versions also have Öhlins shocks, which are pretty much best in the industry.
That car color is stunning
And I appreciate you wearing a shirt to match
The skylights are cool but I actually like a pano sunroof. And what happens in an accident with all that glass over your head??
You just had to do a Uranus joke, didn't you :D great review by the way!
No back window is absolutely a deal breaker. That's going to get very annoying at some point.
Tom the best Polestar 4 review, jour videos are so entertaining, keep it up with great work.
Can't wait for Polestar to put 2 on a dedicated EV platform, and would love to see Polestar car like the Volvo S60 Cross Country :)
I own the Polestar 2 performance pack (or my own version of it with a set of Heico coilovers and OZ wheels and Pilot Sport 4ses). I think so far its the only Polestar I like and want to keep. Other than not needing any bigger the performance/range bump is not worth the extra money. Also am not a fan of SUVs in general.
So far I like the Polestar 4s over other EVs in its class (other than the Macan EV), but I don't see the making the monetary sacrifice to jump from my Polestar 2 to this. On top of liking the Polestar 2 looking more like an evil Volvo, this looks more like an appliance. I think I'd rather look for a second-hand Macan EV in the future though.
does people not drive utilizing rearview mirror? seems like a bit of a safety issue, I look at all three mirror on the highway.
Do the rear seat fold down??
With you on lack of buttons esp. for one pedal and sport mode.
Gorgeous car, but why go Tesla and ifx something that aint broken? I’d rather have a vehicle with a rear glass for all sorts of conditions. Replacing it with tech introduces more problems.
Quick question. What about half of the drivers who suffers from Presbyopia. Can you somehow adjust the focus of the rear view screen or hasn't anyone thought about that at Polestar?
They only want young customers..
14:17 yeah I was never confident that something like this could be sporty. Its a daily, a commuter car. Will most likely have great road control but you wouldn’t buy this if you wanted a vehicle to he occasionally fun
Will be surprised if we don’t see “updated styling” next year that includes a rear window. Patience is a virtue.