What I love about Andy's demos is that he just says and shows what it does instead of forcing how "amazing" and "fantastic" things are....he demos it and lets us make up our minds on whether its good or not
I know this is a good pedal because they used the best background music for the description. That Lydian one with the grindy bass... You know what I'm talking about!
As an owner and lover of the DD500, I'm on the fence about potentially picking this piece up. It's obviously great, but I still feel the Mobius is superior. Boss always seems to fall a little short when it comes to phaser and flange, IMO. A little too on the nose and clinical sounding. Great for certain uses, but mostly ends up being in the "non-musical" realm. What really saves it is how user friendly it is. The new interface the have going on has been my favorite on any multi-fx type unit i'v ever come across. Either way, good job Boss on evolving your line !
Vanderdude404 I've been dreaming of Boss to make this so I can ditch my Mobius. The assign menu is ridiculously powerful and going to let you do so much crazy stuff the Mobius couldn't even dream of. Plus you can use two effects simultaneously... The Mobius always felt pretty weak and throttled to me. Only thing this is missing for me is a bit crusher...
Got one, love it. My only gripe is that you have to sacrifice your stereo I/O to use the effects loop. Would also be nice if you could assign a bypass function for the effects loop on one of the footswitches.
I just got an Orange Rocker32 with a stereo FX loop just too see what it's like. I think it's going to catch on and more amp companies will offer a model that can fully compliment a stereo rig.
I'm referring to the effects loop within the MD-500. Some modulations sound better if placed before or after distortion. The MD-500's effects loop allows you to place where you want the effects within the loop before/after/in between the modulation effects.
@Vanderdude404 It's not going to catch on or ever become a common thing except in digital amplifiers. To have a true stereo fx loop like the orange, you need a stereo power amp. Will will massively increase the cost of most amps. I'm guessing it would be mostly boutique builders that would do it. Since that's the options still for the most part. And it's a TON extra. And honestly I don't get the point. Fx loops are terrible and pointless for majority of players. Unless you player metal with crazy pre amp gain, they are useless. Especially in all these "vintage classic" type of amps. Where majority of people want power tube breakup (actually the power tube breakup most dream of is the phase inverter clipping). And fx loops are before the PI and power tube. So there's zero advantage to put one in at all. And on top of that, only a few companies have ever done an fx decently. And even then, it's a huge compromise. The signal coming out your pre amp is way too hot to go into a pedal. Which are meant for instrument input(some digital fx like eventide, hx stomp etc have line level options but it's still way too hot) the out put level from most preamp is between 25v-60v. So it has to be attenuated way down to a useable level. Which there's no good way to do. And the brought back up before going to the phase inverter and powetubes. Most people know nothing about how fx loops work. It's funny when I see people running their amps clean all the time. And yet, using an fx loop
Yamaha should make a similar unit. They have some really authentic digital emulations of vintage units: Phaser, Flanger, Moog filters, UniVibe, Harmonic tremolo (I’m missing that one here), Rotary speakers, Chorus and Yamaha’s own Symphonyc...
Great demo, as usual! 2 effects might give the Strymon Mobius a hard time... Guys, what Tele model is the one used during the first half of the demo? A Highway One or an American Special? Cheers from Brazil!
As Andy expertly demonstrates, this is a great pedal. But the MIDI implementation is horrendous. Bypassing the unit via CC command doesn't work as advertised.
I had zero interest in this pedal prior to watching, and zero interest after watching. none of these effects are useable to me. I'm going to watch it again, because you guys do such a fantastic job of demos and run a great business.
"...the last word in modulation" doesn't quite make sense since it's a digital pedal and digital chips continue to improve with time. The Eventide Modfactor was the "last" word in modulation, but then the Mobius came out. The new Boss is the "last" word in modulation, but something else will replace it in a few years time when the silicon improves.
Boss and Strymon have 96 kHz and 32 bit floating point processing, but when it comes to AD/DA converters they differ: Boss has 32-bit converters, while Strymon has 24-bit converters. Technically speaking, the Boss is superior. If that corresponds to sound quality is subjective...
Exactly you can't hear the difference if it was that important to the sound don't you think Strymon would incorporate that into their super powerful SHARC processors.32/96khz is a marketing strategy to make people believe it's something not heard before,well higher bit rate Doesent mean better sounding algorithm.Strymon is numerous uno and they set the bar so high that boss can't touch them by wphigh quality algorithms ,style and majestic tones .
More bits = more fidelity to PROCESS THE NOISE FLOOR. Modern DACs never have a dynamic range larger than 120dB. That's equivalent to 20 bits. Also, they are actually 1 bit DACs running at a few hundred megahertz, 32 bit is just the size of the number they accept. :)
still waiting on the metal zone 500
AfternoonConcession oh god. I literally spit my water across the room!!
Larry Ivy no you didn't...
PedalHead He might be living in a very small room....
more like OD-500
Chris Aguilar but that's so lame
Got pumped when I saw you playing a couple Reverends. They're sooo nice. Love my Double Agent OG
Andy is the master of modulation! Awesome demo.
What I love about Andy's demos is that he just says and shows what it does instead of forcing how "amazing" and "fantastic" things are....he demos it and lets us make up our minds on whether its good or not
Butt kisser
Butt kisser
B*tt kisser
Once again Andy you play really well awesome
That intro is funkier than my boxers after a four hour July outdoor gig in Florida.
Who thumbs downs Andy? Savages.
Andy always does interesting stuff👍
Literally the only man I've ever seen make a ring mod sound fucking awesome
Completely agree. Only Andy
Clay Heinzerling Andy is awesome of course, but check out Dennis Kayzer's channel, he has some really far out stuff on there.
what about tony iommi's ring mod fuzz in "paranoid" -- sounds like scrambled fucking brain.
Look up Ronald Jones of the Flaming Lips, his ring mod tones are insane!
and Guthrie Govan
I know this is a good pedal because they used the best background music for the description. That Lydian one with the grindy bass... You know what I'm talking about!
As an owner and lover of the DD500, I'm on the fence about potentially picking this piece up. It's obviously great, but I still feel the Mobius is superior. Boss always seems to fall a little short when it comes to phaser and flange, IMO. A little too on the nose and clinical sounding. Great for certain uses, but mostly ends up being in the "non-musical" realm. What really saves it is how user friendly it is. The new interface the have going on has been my favorite on any multi-fx type unit i'v ever come across. Either way, good job Boss on evolving your line !
I don't really think it was meant to beat the Mobius, just a more affordable option.
Vanderdude404 I've been dreaming of Boss to make this so I can ditch my Mobius. The assign menu is ridiculously powerful and going to let you do so much crazy stuff the Mobius couldn't even dream of. Plus you can use two effects simultaneously... The Mobius always felt pretty weak and throttled to me. Only thing this is missing for me is a bit crusher...
I own a Mobius, but what disappointed me is only 1 effect at a time. to add the MD-500 would sort me out.
Got one, love it. My only gripe is that you have to sacrifice your stereo I/O to use the effects loop. Would also be nice if you could assign a bypass function for the effects loop on one of the footswitches.
I just got an Orange Rocker32 with a stereo FX loop just too see what it's like. I think it's going to catch on and more amp companies will offer a model that can fully compliment a stereo rig.
I'm referring to the effects loop within the MD-500. Some modulations sound better if placed before or after distortion. The MD-500's effects loop allows you to place where you want the effects within the loop before/after/in between the modulation effects.
WTWASTHAT Hey, just curious in case you have an amp with an effects loop, have you tried to patch the preamp in the loop as opposed to a dirt pedal?
@Vanderdude404 It's not going to catch on or ever become a common thing except in digital amplifiers. To have a true stereo fx loop like the orange, you need a stereo power amp. Will will massively increase the cost of most amps. I'm guessing it would be mostly boutique builders that would do it. Since that's the options still for the most part. And it's a TON extra.
And honestly I don't get the point. Fx loops are terrible and pointless for majority of players. Unless you player metal with crazy pre amp gain, they are useless. Especially in all these "vintage classic" type of amps. Where majority of people want power tube breakup (actually the power tube breakup most dream of is the phase inverter clipping). And fx loops are before the PI and power tube. So there's zero advantage to put one in at all. And on top of that, only a few companies have ever done an fx decently. And even then, it's a huge compromise. The signal coming out your pre amp is way too hot to go into a pedal. Which are meant for instrument input(some digital fx like eventide, hx stomp etc have line level options but it's still way too hot) the out put level from most preamp is between 25v-60v. So it has to be attenuated way down to a useable level. Which there's no good way to do. And the brought back up before going to the phase inverter and powetubes.
Most people know nothing about how fx loops work. It's funny when I see people running their amps clean all the time. And yet, using an fx loop
Andy crankin' out the porno music intro....Nice.
Thumbs up for Roadstar bass!
Hearts Barracuda flanger!
Hey Ralphie boy. Will it also core a apple?
Crazy Uncle Duke ...ohHO! It can core a apple!
Hey Norton!
It slices...It dices....It's stompbox of da future. LOL
What model is the reverend hollowbody near the end?
It's a Club King 290
Yamaha should make a similar unit. They have some really authentic digital emulations of vintage units: Phaser, Flanger, Moog filters, UniVibe, Harmonic tremolo (I’m missing that one here), Rotary speakers, Chorus and Yamaha’s own Symphonyc...
Great demo, as usual! 2 effects might give the Strymon Mobius a hard time...
Guys, what Tele model is the one used during the first half of the demo? A Highway One or an American Special?
Cheers from Brazil!
Hi Julio, it's an American Special. Thanks!
how good work with acoustic guitar?
nothing beats the single knob & on/off switch of a phase 90.
maybe a comprehensive modulation pedal does... but hey thats just me
Pedal top d+ esse eu quero
time for a MT2 Waza
Good to see boss 5 years behind the curve and reminding us how old the timeline and möbius are
Meh ,Boss 500 series are the poor man's Strymon substitute
297 patches?! Why such a random number?! There goes my OCD...
Flávio Castro 33 x 9
Think of it like this. 300 patches minus one complete bank-3.
Everybody knows that the patch number must be a pair number!!!!!!
@@therflcommish 99 x 3
This opening Music is genius. Is it a cover from a song ???
Based loosely on some Daft Punk ;)
I think I may sell my RT-20 for this sweet pedal...
I'm selling a kidney
As Andy expertly demonstrates, this is a great pedal. But the MIDI implementation is horrendous. Bypassing the unit via CC command doesn't work as advertised.
Looks like highway 1 tele.
This or mobius
Niether. They both suck poo poo.
@@alfuckem5620 then what do you recommend master
Porno Music is making a CUMBACK I see........Now for the 70s big bush beats!!!
Hank's gonna smack you for giving Bobby bad ideas...
"There's 'Jailbait', 'Cuffs and Collars' and a bunch of other cop movies!"
Maybe I like it rough......hehehehe
I had zero interest in this pedal prior to watching, and zero interest after watching. none of these effects are useable to me. I'm going to watch it again, because you guys do such a fantastic job of demos and run a great business.
I agree totally. This thing sounds thin and digital to me but these guys demos are great. If Andy can't make it sound good...
i dont see the point of this pedal versus a multi effects. Yes you can use more detailed settings, but in the end, will it be simpler to make music?
sounds like 1's and 0's digitally floating around the guitar amp
"...the last word in modulation" doesn't quite make sense since it's a digital pedal and digital chips continue to improve with time. The Eventide Modfactor was the "last" word in modulation, but then the Mobius came out. The new Boss is the "last" word in modulation, but something else will replace it in a few years time when the silicon improves.
Daniel West 👍🏽
Daniel West the last word in Boss' current lineup is what is meant by that statement.
Daniel West, you must be fun at parties
Strymon is the last word
Boss and Strymon have 96 kHz and 32 bit floating point processing, but when it comes to AD/DA converters they differ: Boss has 32-bit converters, while Strymon has 24-bit converters. Technically speaking, the Boss is superior. If that corresponds to sound quality is subjective...
If you can hear the difference between 24 and 32 bits... more power to you!
Even Strymon quality is 24bit/96khz to me it sounds more prestine than Boss's 32/96khz
Exactly you can't hear the difference if it was that important to the sound don't you think Strymon would incorporate that into their super powerful SHARC processors.32/96khz is a marketing strategy to make people believe it's something not heard before,well higher bit rate Doesent mean better sounding algorithm.Strymon is numerous uno and they set the bar so high that boss can't touch them by wphigh quality algorithms ,style and majestic tones .
More bits = more fidelity to PROCESS THE NOISE FLOOR. Modern DACs never have a dynamic range larger than 120dB. That's equivalent to 20 bits.
Also, they are actually 1 bit DACs running at a few hundred megahertz, 32 bit is just the size of the number they accept. :)