Two tips: 1. I would change the title to say "In PVP" because a lot of these weapons are focused and amazing for one and not the other as much. For example, Bad Juju is AMAZING in PVE. In PVP? Not so much. 2. I would stop using the ornament icons for the weapons. Even though I love them and feel that a good chunk of weapon ornaments are how the weapons should have looked in the first place, it can be confusing for newer players. Look at Lumina, Malfeasance, and especially Monte Carlo. Most won't even recognize those images.
@@jacobwydareny24 what are you talking about? The recoil is actually excellent. It's literally the most stable Sidearm in the universe while having the 2nd highest exotic Sidearm Stability. The weapon is just stable and consistent.
@@lordmorgoth7 he touched upon the gun itself and said it’s almost pay to win, he clearly stated it made the gun better which you would know if you watched it
For Fighting Lion, it was nerfed much more than just reload speed. The blast radius and damage were nerfed pretty hard as well. All the footage used for it was pre-nerf so I'm curious if you would still rank it A tier now. I'm a Fighting Lion main, but this nerf absolutely gutted the lion.
I don't PVP much, but I absolutely love everything about the Cerberus+1. The aesthetic of it, the feel, its sound, and just the very idea of a cobbled-together, rusty gun randomly spraying bullets is very cool to me.
Patty, Cerberus is lot different than you think for the range and TTKs (it changes depending on range but still good). If you are within close range like less than 15 meters, it has a faster TTK than Tarrabrrrr and other exotics. Also it doesn't GET normal damage dropoff UNTIL 50 meters as it gains REVERSE damage dropoff where the farther you are up to 50 meters, the more damage the bullets will do. The gun doesn't suck for consistency. It has a lot of consistency for the range and stuff. If you really want to dive down into the thick of it, even though you're a top player, I would recommend Ironworker Gaming Channel as he puts out AMAZING Exotic Weapon and some exotic armor reviews. Cerberus is explained a lot more in his video of PvE and PvP for it. I recommend his channel as he always keeps in mind about the potential, player skill level, etc.
I personally would rank outbreak way higher on controller because of its lack of recoil. The amount of stability is absolutely unmatched and that alone wins me a lot of duels with other pulse riffles and even handcannons!
For cerberus, you have to close the gap. If you get multiple bullets to hit, it can be the fastest ttk amongst non one shot kill weapons, but only if you get close enough. Unless it's chaperone, I RARELY die in close range using it
Literally found your channel probably a few days ago. New to destiny only like 2 or 3 months in and I’ve combed through some of your videos and you’re so funny in these reviews! I saw a previous one and the shotgun apes bit got me and now the little google translate bit for the Skyburner’s Oath got me too! Jokes aside, you’re really helping me understand benefits and downsides to a bunch of weapons I want to collect even if I don’t use them! Thanks again, Pattycakes!
True Vanguard is about to have a FIELD DAY with you Pattycakes lol. Traveler's has felt VERY good for me on MnK. Btw, Traveler's has the range to compete with some SMGs (up to 18-19 meters).
@@PattycakesGaming same. But Traveler's Chosen does feel so good right now. I'm glad Bungie toned the muzzle flash down way back around Season of the Chosen. It feels great to use and that the builds have expanded with it
I was expecting Rat King to at least be B tier (with catalyst, of course) while solo because of the invis, healing, and 100 recoil direction. That said, the visual kick of the gun itself really gets in the way of it achieving its optimal TTK and SMGs probably outperform it in practice so I respect the C rating.
Something that always bothers me about tier lists like this is creators never use the base icons always ornaments. Feels like it adds another layer of confusion.
Depends on your perspective. If we are going bell curve style then C should be the largest section, but with additional tiers at the top it does move the average to higher like you said.
Huckleberry I'd say is a god send in 1v2 or 1v3 since if you can pick one off you don't need to reload giving you no moment of weakness oh and it's instant s+ tier bc of the reload animation and feeling
22:14 another thing to note about devils ruin is PUT SIDEARM HOLSTER ON IF YOU ARE USING THIS WEAPON. The laser beam perk can be used at max potentional regardless of how much ammo you have in the mag so you can use a good kinetic primary weapon and no matter what you will always have that laser beam ready because of sidearm holster.
I wanted to come back to this video just for Vex. VOG became a pinnacle a few weeks ago, i farmed vog ALMOST non stop. I did I wanna say 23-26 runs in about 24 hours. I finally got vex after my 22nd or 23rd run and it’s everything I dreamed of it being. So glad I FINALLY have it
Fun fact about sturm and drang. You can actually stack your buffed shots for sturm to 99 times, which gives you about 111 shots in your sturm. You just need to get 99 kills with drang...
U did every exotic weapon in a 3rd of the time it took fallout to do the kiosk, n there's a bunch of exotics missing from the kiosk to! Great work patty!
LOL I actually had a banger game when recording footage for this with MIDA, I was 1 kill short of two we rans in the same game. It's a great scout but when DMT is in the picture it's gonna feel overshadowed
The point about crimsons sight kicking up more is not because of Mouse and KB, its because of your selected FOV, this happens at 105, if you play 95 or lower this is not an issue.
Sweet Business should be at least c tier. It has one of the fastest TTKs, its simple to use and there's many easy ways to both bait and prevent people from pushing you while you rev up. Even without war rig I've out gunned everything from Ace to frozen orbit.
a heads up for everyone looking for the vigil of saint-14 ornament, bungie removed it from the eververse archive so you can't buy it anymore which means you have to hope it drops from an engram
False, even if its not in the archive, it can still be listed as a daily offering on the front page, just like how it was listed last week. Or it can be listed as bright dust. Its not as easy to obtain as you have to watch the store but its not only obtainable from engrams
I honestly feel like Lumina is super slept on. I enjoy using it alone for the sole reason that the sound it makes when shot just sooths my ears. Such a sexy looking and sounding gun.
Hey patty, ive been watching you for a very long time, I enjoy all of your videos. I had a question tho, what do you edit your videos with? Just curious
Cerberus+1: But it does NOT have damage drop off in standard mode, it hurts more the further away you are. And it hits more bullets the closer you are, It's a really fun weapon.
"I hope the bowl of cereal you have for breakfast is soggy." Holy shit, I've never seen someone say something so purely *evil* in my life. I'm stealing that.
I'm not going to lie my favorite exotic combo as of now is DMT and lion rampants, and my gameplay feels sooo boosted, combine that loadout with too many hours in halo four swat and some scary things happen in the crucible. Some of my favorite kind of off meta picks are Sturm (which I like cammy's idea of bringing some 120's back to their 110 hard hitting state) Outbreak, and the multimach CCX Godroll that I'm convinced Bungie gave to a certain few people and then took the guns files out of the game
Also note: Arc Buddies stack with the NTTE's bullet portal. So bottom tree Warlocks with Getaway Artists can and high discipline can run around with 2 roided out arc buddies. One with tracking arc bolts and one that a pre-firing aim bot
NTTE is literally my go to PvP weapon. Perfect archetype in PvP, consistent, Time Buddy is dummy good and it’s so satisfying when you get a kill and go on a rip n tear with it.
Hawkmoon may not be the best-of-the-best, but it has the fun factor of going for stacks so for personal reason i put it in S tier. also customizable perks are nice
Bad juju is my favorite pulse rifle. Mida Multi tool is my favorite scout rifle, and ace of spades is my favorite hand cannon. Just need bungie to ass zhalo and my exotic primary to complete.
Yeah we talked about it but we both wanted to make it, so we figured why not. Plus we are doing it in different ways. He's ranking every exotic in the same list while I'm breaking mine into 3 to focus a bit more on each weapon
Sweet Business is S Tier in my heart, and I will die on this hill. Damn thing's a minigun with Primary ammo, meaning you don't need to run for Heavy every five seconds, and Lion's Ramparts just make it fun if nothing else. It's a small hill to die on, but I'll still die on it.
100% agree lol, but realistically in 6v6 game modes nobody is paying attention and you can get it up and spinning no problem so it’s AT LEAST a C tier pick I’d even say B tier possibly just compared to the other options in that ranking
The outbreaks nanites get me a triple kill a few day ago. And enemys that only get hit once by them get 40 dmg headshots after this. I like this weapon in 6v6 :D
Not be a bandwagon guy but Sweet Business + Actium War Rig, which I got yesterday, has gotten me 10 crucible wins in a row with a KD of 2.3+. The trick is, use radar. pre-fire before you peek a corner so you're all spun up, and hold a line of sight in 1 area. Enemies 90% of the time come back to peek out directly into your firestream. In most matches people run away from me or spam grenades and dodges to get to cover. It is my favorite because "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet" - TF2 Heavy
Totally unrelated but I had some good fun in pvp this week using sunset weapons. Real nice to take blast furnace out again. Could be fun to do a best sunset weapons for pvp list.
I wasn’t aware of the last words difference between pc and console. What’s weirder is that I actually prefer last word over ace, and I’m on pc. I got both from the kiosk and I tried both but for some reason I’m just more comfortable with last word
The reason I love thorn more than ace is same reason I love the peacebond, it’s optic is high above the model so the gun doesn’t really obscure your vision when you shoot. Despite that I love igneous hammer the most 😊
Ticcus should be paired with Butterbutt. I dont know how, but you spend most of you life playing this game whilst I only play on weekends and Ticcus came in clutch for me.
Symmetry's second mode has HEAT seeking tracking which means that unlike rocket tracking, the heat seeking is gonna a be a bit harder to Dodge out of because of the tracking
@@PattycakesGaming So it’s been almost a year since this comment Patty, and wouldn’t you know it, Sidearms are making a bit of a splash in the sandbox. So I ask again, Sidearm tierlist when? 😂
Cerberus is definitely better than people think. It has reverse damage falloff so learning that sweet spot makes it insane. I’d say high B tier, maybe A tier if you can get some good RNG
Patty, have you, not used the Lion post nerf? Like all of your footage is from pre-nerf, how can you say it's A tier, while simultaneously only showing footage of pre-nerf Fighting Lion.
Interesting that you made the differentiation that last word is only good on controller yet didn't specify that DMT is only meta on mouse and keyboard and is extremely mediocre on controller. Obviously that could change with the upcoming buffs and it could become a much more relevant gun but it's weird that you make a point to specify controller specific guns but not do the same for things that are in the same boat on mouse and keyboard.
Love it, but one thing I notice in all the tier lists like this is people point out that crimson and last word are much better on console and rank them separately, even though dmt especially, and stuff like ace of spades and most hand cannons, pulses, and SMGs perform better on mnk but no one points that out. Little frustrating
its because they dont perform better on mnk. Last Word is literally coded to be better on console, Ace of Spades and the others mentioned are not. Its just a benefit that being on MnK recoil control is easier. Why would that need to me pointed out as its common knowledge aiming and recoil are easier to control on MnK
Part 2 - Exotic Special Weapon Tier List ua-cam.com/video/Iiklw2dwnq0/v-deo.html
how did you already comment 4 hours ago when the video was uploaded 4 minutes ago?!
Two tips:
1. I would change the title to say "In PVP" because a lot of these weapons are focused and amazing for one and not the other as much. For example, Bad Juju is AMAZING in PVE. In PVP? Not so much.
2. I would stop using the ornament icons for the weapons. Even though I love them and feel that a good chunk of weapon ornaments are how the weapons should have looked in the first place, it can be confusing for newer players. Look at Lumina, Malfeasance, and especially Monte Carlo. Most won't even recognize those images.
Can you do a good void warlock build for pvp please
where is the duality
@@mangokin9506 Coming soon in part 2 that covers special ammo weapons
Look, when you rank special weapons can we just agree that borealis' real exotic perk is how high it's stats are compared to other aggressive snipers?
Also, Devil's Ruin has some DUMMY THICC range if you're extremely good with it. 30 meters for a OHK with no Lunas and it's 70 meters with Lunas
ppl sleep on lunas, makes any weapon like scout range😭 was 3 tapping from 60+ meters with ace of spades
For real????
@@cooperwright707 yep
Yeah once you get the dumb recoil down it’s actually the embodiment of evil
@@jacobwydareny24 what are you talking about? The recoil is actually excellent. It's literally the most stable Sidearm in the universe while having the 2nd highest exotic Sidearm Stability. The weapon is just stable and consistent.
Tip: Don't use ornaments for the weapon icons. Not everyone has the same ornaments, so can make it a bit harder to recognise the weapon heh
That shouldn’t matter if you watch the video
@@myriad8275 the ornament is for recommendations. Like the vigilance
@@lordmorgoth7 he touched upon the gun itself and said it’s almost pay to win, he clearly stated it made the gun better which you would know if you watched it
He says the name for a reason.
Idk man I can tell every weapon just fine
I’d love a pve exotic tier list, as I feel like that would be super useful.
Forreal
Yes
For Fighting Lion, it was nerfed much more than just reload speed. The blast radius and damage were nerfed pretty hard as well. All the footage used for it was pre-nerf so I'm curious if you would still rank it A tier now. I'm a Fighting Lion main, but this nerf absolutely gutted the lion.
Such an unjustified nerf.
Devil's ruin is S tier in my heart.
Also: Another day of asking Patty to make a sidearm tierlist
LOL someday it will happen
Bow tier list when:(
@@destinyhunter1926 here I'll do it
Le Monarche - S
Other bows B
That heavy ammo exotic bow - F
Jk kinda
@@penguins.227 trinity: fun tier
@@penguins.227 biting winds is A, you cant change my mind
I don't PVP much, but I absolutely love everything about the Cerberus+1. The aesthetic of it, the feel, its sound, and just the very idea of a cobbled-together, rusty gun randomly spraying bullets is very cool to me.
I LOVE this editing! Especially at 8:31 with the sneaky stag helmet
Patty, Cerberus is lot different than you think for the range and TTKs (it changes depending on range but still good). If you are within close range like less than 15 meters, it has a faster TTK than Tarrabrrrr and other exotics. Also it doesn't GET normal damage dropoff UNTIL 50 meters as it gains REVERSE damage dropoff where the farther you are up to 50 meters, the more damage the bullets will do. The gun doesn't suck for consistency. It has a lot of consistency for the range and stuff. If you really want to dive down into the thick of it, even though you're a top player, I would recommend Ironworker Gaming Channel as he puts out AMAZING Exotic Weapon and some exotic armor reviews. Cerberus is explained a lot more in his video of PvE and PvP for it. I recommend his channel as he always keeps in mind about the potential, player skill level, etc.
Ha ha - I suggested Ironworker try C+1...I have 7500+ pvp kills on mine.
@@LakerTriangle Nice. I like to use Cerberus with a long range Primary such as Igneous Hammer
@@eri_sister_of_aerial Trustee is my baby with this.
@@LakerTriangle ngl, Surplus + Wellspring is goated on it
@@LakerTriangle if only it had something like Swash/Rampage/Kill clip/Multikill Clip when it was released in BL with DSC
I personally would rank outbreak way higher on controller because of its lack of recoil. The amount of stability is absolutely unmatched and that alone wins me a lot of duels with other pulse riffles and even handcannons!
Facts , I’ve gone on some crazy streaks with outbreak cause landing headshots is just so easy
Don't forget that chromatic fire literally makes you get free doubles and triples with outbreak
Notes on monte, Markov chain acts as both swashbuckler and grave robber
For cerberus, you have to close the gap. If you get multiple bullets to hit, it can be the fastest ttk amongst non one shot kill weapons, but only if you get close enough. Unless it's chaperone, I RARELY die in close range using it
Mid range is what works best for me. I can chew people up without trying. Heck, because of the spread you can get two close opponents at once.
Cerb has reversed damage falloff, super slept on I've been preaching this gun for awhile now its good if you use it right 👍
Also some nasty flinch if you get more than one bullet hitting at a time, it can keep someone's aim off you just enough to clean up
Ikr it is veeeery slept on but eh idc ill keep using it🤣
@@ghostridernz17 im taking it into trials rn
5:00 jokes on you I don't play D2 any more! I just watch your videos because I enjoy your content.
haha well thanks! :)
Literally found your channel probably a few days ago. New to destiny only like 2 or 3 months in and I’ve combed through some of your videos and you’re so funny in these reviews! I saw a previous one and the shotgun apes bit got me and now the little google translate bit for the Skyburner’s Oath got me too! Jokes aside, you’re really helping me understand benefits and downsides to a bunch of weapons I want to collect even if I don’t use them! Thanks again, Pattycakes!
Thanks! Glad you like them :)
True Vanguard is about to have a FIELD DAY with you Pattycakes lol. Traveler's has felt VERY good for me on MnK. Btw, Traveler's has the range to compete with some SMGs (up to 18-19 meters).
Haha I love TV, that little joke was all in good fun. He's an awesome dude
@@PattycakesGaming same. But Traveler's Chosen does feel so good right now. I'm glad Bungie toned the muzzle flash down way back around Season of the Chosen. It feels great to use and that the builds have expanded with it
3:39 lmaooo that hunter is trying their heart out with that dodge 😂
LOL 800000 DPI activated
@@PattycakesGaming that type of stuff is one of the reasons I love Destiny. The people you face can be hilarious 😂
I was expecting Rat King to at least be B tier (with catalyst, of course) while solo because of the invis, healing, and 100 recoil direction. That said, the visual kick of the gun itself really gets in the way of it achieving its optimal TTK and SMGs probably outperform it in practice so I respect the C rating.
you just argued with yourself and then disagreed with your original opinion
Something that always bothers me about tier lists like this is creators never use the base icons always ornaments. Feels like it adds another layer of confusion.
tryna flex that they have that silver
Good to see at least there's more B or higher tier weapons than C or lower.
Depends on your perspective. If we are going bell curve style then C should be the largest section, but with additional tiers at the top it does move the average to higher like you said.
Huckleberry I'd say is a god send in 1v2 or 1v3 since if you can pick one off you don't need to reload giving you no moment of weakness oh and it's instant s+ tier bc of the reload animation and feeling
I love that you showed which ones are MW as well, thank you for that little detail!
22:14 another thing to note about devils ruin is PUT SIDEARM HOLSTER ON IF YOU ARE USING THIS WEAPON. The laser beam perk can be used at max potentional regardless of how much ammo you have in the mag so you can use a good kinetic primary weapon and no matter what you will always have that laser beam ready because of sidearm holster.
I love the editing!
I wanted to come back to this video just for Vex. VOG became a pinnacle a few weeks ago, i farmed vog ALMOST non stop. I did I wanna say 23-26 runs in about 24 hours. I finally got vex after my 22nd or 23rd run and it’s everything I dreamed of it being. So glad I FINALLY have it
Fun fact about sturm and drang. You can actually stack your buffed shots for sturm to 99 times, which gives you about 111 shots in your sturm. You just need to get 99 kills with drang...
No it does not go that high
yeah it does dude, I know everybody who has Sturm and drang had tried it
Trying to squeeze Tommy into B tier was so funny xD
U did every exotic weapon in a 3rd of the time it took fallout to do the kiosk, n there's a bunch of exotics missing from the kiosk to! Great work patty!
Patty: puts MIDA in B-Tier
Drewskys & Mesome777: *Walks in DIO style menacingly to make Pattycakes change his mind*
LOL I actually had a banger game when recording footage for this with MIDA, I was 1 kill short of two we rans in the same game. It's a great scout but when DMT is in the picture it's gonna feel overshadowed
@@PattycakesGaming yeah but I feel like MIDA is slept on. The catalyst is is pain trying to get to drop in Glory.
running a 6 stack of titans with sweet business in iron banner is amazing
I ended up teamed up with 5-stack sweet business in control last night. I’m immediately pulled up my sweet business from vault lol it’s so fun.
Cerberus is at least B tier and these lists will never change my mind, if only because it's legitimately just fun and goofy to use :D
Fun and goofy =/= good
Needed this video. As a player returning from destiny 1 I have no idea what's good anymore.
The point about crimsons sight kicking up more is not because of Mouse and KB, its because of your selected FOV, this happens at 105, if you play 95 or lower this is not an issue.
I love these! Great content
I love how my main weapon appears first, the ace of spades is my favourite exotic ever and i don’t think I’ll be replacing it any time soon
I have been waiting for this….
the freeze pistol is getting a buff that eliminates that short cooldown ice fire thing
I laughed a bit too hard when the stag peaked his head out from behind malfeasance like “😏”
Sweet Business should be at least c tier. It has one of the fastest TTKs, its simple to use and there's many easy ways to both bait and prevent people from pushing you while you rev up. Even without war rig I've out gunned everything from Ace to frozen orbit.
a heads up for everyone looking for the vigil of saint-14 ornament, bungie removed it from the eververse archive so you can't buy it anymore which means you have to hope it drops from an engram
False, even if its not in the archive, it can still be listed as a daily offering on the front page, just like how it was listed last week. Or it can be listed as bright dust. Its not as easy to obtain as you have to watch the store but its not only obtainable from engrams
@@TheMarine0333 I forgot it rotated in there as well, thanks for telling me that
I am waiting for Xur to appear this week so I can get an exotic cipher, going to get the Ace of Spades. I like collecting those hand cannons.
Definitely grab ace
Excellent as usual! Thanks
I honestly feel like Lumina is super slept on. I enjoy using it alone for the sole reason that the sound it makes when shot just sooths my ears. Such a sexy looking and sounding gun.
I have been waiting for this one for a long long time!
They really need to fix sidearm recoil ASAP. They’re so good and fun to use but man that amount of recoil is just absurd.
The fact that many of them have the visual recoil of a handcannon despite their high fire rate just makes them feel bad.
The Montecarlo with the WW1 skin is just so sexy tbh
I've yet to use it on PvP, but on PvE that's my favorite weapon, even over handcannons
Hey patty, ive been watching you for a very long time, I enjoy all of your videos. I had a question tho, what do you edit your videos with? Just curious
I use premiere pro mostly. Although this particular one was edited by a friend who also uses PP
@@PattycakesGamingI’ll have to mess around to see what I can do with it, but thank you, have a good rest of your night/day ❤️
Cerberus+1: But it does NOT have damage drop off in standard mode, it hurts more the further away you are. And it hits more bullets the closer you are, It's a really fun weapon.
It's still not a great gun but it has it's uses :)
Cant even begin to tell you how much I love crimson on my Xbox i string 10-15 kills together at least once per game using it. It’s amazing
"I hope the bowl of cereal you have for breakfast is soggy."
Holy shit, I've never seen someone say something so purely *evil* in my life.
I'm stealing that.
I'm not going to lie my favorite exotic combo as of now is DMT and lion rampants, and my gameplay feels sooo boosted, combine that loadout with too many hours in halo four swat and some scary things happen in the crucible.
Some of my favorite kind of off meta picks are Sturm (which I like cammy's idea of bringing some 120's back to their 110 hard hitting state) Outbreak, and the multimach CCX Godroll that I'm convinced Bungie gave to a certain few people and then took the guns files out of the game
Ikr, as someone that plays Valorant most of the time DMT feels so good to use, love combining it with Lion Rampart too its so good
Any syrup with a butter flavor to it is always a favorite of mine.
Also note: Arc Buddies stack with the NTTE's bullet portal. So bottom tree Warlocks with Getaway Artists can and high discipline can run around with 2 roided out arc buddies. One with tracking arc bolts and one that a pre-firing aim bot
NTTE is literally my go to PvP weapon. Perfect archetype in PvP, consistent, Time Buddy is dummy good and it’s so satisfying when you get a kill and go on a rip n tear with it.
Rat king under rated for sure. Love the vid tho
Idk why but I feel like sweet business is actually starting to feel like a C to B tier weapon
Hawkmoon may not be the best-of-the-best, but it has the fun factor of going for stacks so for personal reason i put it in S tier. also customizable perks are nice
Bad juju is my favorite pulse rifle. Mida Multi tool is my favorite scout rifle, and ace of spades is my favorite hand cannon. Just need bungie to ass zhalo and my exotic primary to complete.
shadow and patty releasing the same video so close to each other lol
Yeah we talked about it but we both wanted to make it, so we figured why not. Plus we are doing it in different ways. He's ranking every exotic in the same list while I'm breaking mine into 3 to focus a bit more on each weapon
Vex Mythoclast used to be so broken, I used it with Riiswalker when I went solo flawless in the regular playlist. glad it got nerfed
I got so excited from that music nerd shoutout - more please
3:56 You did NOT just shatterdive a guy frozen by Cryosthesia
Sweet Business is S Tier in my heart, and I will die on this hill.
Damn thing's a minigun with Primary ammo, meaning you don't need to run for Heavy every five seconds, and Lion's Ramparts just make it fun if nothing else.
It's a small hill to die on, but I'll still die on it.
100% agree lol, but realistically in 6v6 game modes nobody is paying attention and you can get it up and spinning no problem so it’s AT LEAST a C tier pick I’d even say B tier possibly just compared to the other options in that ranking
I think people underestimate how hard good use of a Suros can punish the meta of peek shooting with a hand cannon.
The outbreaks nanites get me a triple kill a few day ago. And enemys that only get hit once by them get 40 dmg headshots after this. I like this weapon in 6v6 :D
nice vid can't wait for hopefully Hawkmoon an deadman's tale in the kiosk
Cerberus+1 has more dmg the further away an enemy is
Not be a bandwagon guy but Sweet Business + Actium War Rig, which I got yesterday, has gotten me 10 crucible wins in a row with a KD of 2.3+.
The trick is, use radar. pre-fire before you peek a corner so you're all spun up, and hold a line of sight in 1 area. Enemies 90% of the time come back to peek out directly into your firestream.
In most matches people run away from me or spam grenades and dodges to get to cover.
It is my favorite because "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet" - TF2 Heavy
Is it possible to use the same criteria using all 3 classes? I’m sure each exotic feels different when using a titan, warlock, and hunter.
Totally unrelated but I had some good fun in pvp this week using sunset weapons. Real nice to take blast furnace out again.
Could be fun to do a best sunset weapons for pvp list.
I'd use sunshot more if it didn't give me a seizure every time I fire it
Or if we didn't need 2 Handcannon targeting mods using 10 energy on helmet to be able to hit anything :D
I wasn’t aware of the last words difference between pc and console. What’s weirder is that I actually prefer last word over ace, and I’m on pc. I got both from the kiosk and I tried both but for some reason I’m just more comfortable with last word
Pattycakes: Thorn is used to stop aggressive players
You're using an aggressive 140 handcannon to stop aggressive players. *THONK*
@@vohvo2306 what the dog doin
The reason I love thorn more than ace is same reason I love the peacebond, it’s optic is high above the model so the gun doesn’t really obscure your vision when you shoot. Despite that I love igneous hammer the most 😊
I have a feeling that cryos will be better in pvp after the update since they’re changing how the weapon works
The transitions between clips were so crisp, wow
Thank you for your hard work!
Ticcus should be paired with Butterbutt. I dont know how, but you spend most of you life playing this game whilst I only play on weekends and Ticcus came in clutch for me.
Symmetry's second mode has HEAT seeking tracking which means that unlike rocket tracking, the heat seeking is gonna a be a bit harder to Dodge out of because of the tracking
A good Symmetry use is fucking cancer, but I respect them at the end of the day.
Played with a guy in Trials who used the cerberus... and it absolutely tore people apart lol.
Sidearm tier list when?
I bet that would be torture to record. I could be wrong, but I’ve never seen someone use a sidearm in pvp.
LOL you trying to end my destiny career? 😂
@@PattycakesGaming Crap! He’s onto me!
@@PattycakesGaming So it’s been almost a year since this comment Patty, and wouldn’t you know it, Sidearms are making a bit of a splash in the sandbox. So I ask again, Sidearm tierlist when? 😂
@@zadekirian2 haha I've actually been talkng to TV about doing a collab one when he has a bit more time
Bungie posted a picture of the December dungeon armor recently and they were all holding thorn... possible thorn catalyst hint..?
If uzume wasn't my favorite current sniper Tarrabah would be the only primary I'd ever use
Same! I got an adept uzume with snapshot, high impact and I never want to unequip it
@@InvictusDestiny Still hunting that Snorpal 🥲
Try knucklehead radar with sweet business. It might change your mind
I LOVE these videos
I was playing comp with sweet business as a meme but it was actually a lot better than I thought. I dropped a 20 kill game with it.
Small correction: If your heavy is arc, and you get a kill with it, it *will* proc Trinity Ghoul
I refuse to believe that jade rabbit is b tier, if you only go for the head you literally never use it’s exotic perk, kick that shit down to f
I’m working towards getting Monte Carlo. I feel like it would match perfectly with my exotic Sunbracers
Monti Carlo is my favorite exotic since I love melee in Destiny 2
Cerberus is definitely better than people think. It has reverse damage falloff so learning that sweet spot makes it insane. I’d say high B tier, maybe A tier if you can get some good RNG
I just got Vex after 27 runs, got the catalyst and having a lot of fun, sad its nerfed but I'm happy regardless
Wish Ender so lowkey that even Patty forgot it exists.
Patty, have you, not used the Lion post nerf? Like all of your footage is from pre-nerf, how can you say it's A tier, while simultaneously only showing footage of pre-nerf Fighting Lion.
Interesting that you made the differentiation that last word is only good on controller yet didn't specify that DMT is only meta on mouse and keyboard and is extremely mediocre on controller. Obviously that could change with the upcoming buffs and it could become a much more relevant gun but it's weird that you make a point to specify controller specific guns but not do the same for things that are in the same boat on mouse and keyboard.
I feel like they are much closer than TLW, but the changes will be interesting for it
Love it, but one thing I notice in all the tier lists like this is people point out that crimson and last word are much better on console and rank them separately, even though dmt especially, and stuff like ace of spades and most hand cannons, pulses, and SMGs perform better on mnk but no one points that out. Little frustrating
its because they dont perform better on mnk. Last Word is literally coded to be better on console, Ace of Spades and the others mentioned are not. Its just a benefit that being on MnK recoil control is easier. Why would that need to me pointed out as its common knowledge aiming and recoil are easier to control on MnK
Here me out Tommy’s match with worm mask hunter pretty good
Juju might be good with the new twab updates
Loved it " it has every perk under the sun" I'm still laughing