Awesome video. I have this exact pan I’m going to be putting on my 2017 3.5 ecoboost tomorrow. I got new filter, gasket and seals too along with ten quarts of motorcraft ULV (I wanted to make sure I have more than enough). I have almost 70k on the factory filter and fluid so it’s definitely overdue but I don’t do much towing and even when I do it’s fairly light. My temps generally stay under 190 even in the summer. I just didn’t want to do this job and throw a crappy plastic pan back on.
What’s funny I just ordered mine and is getting installed this Thursday so I’m glad this video popped up so I can see how it’s done and what my mechanic is gonna do. I’m getting all the work done as well not just us.
Hey Tripp! On the topic of cooling and T-Stats for the EcoBoost and Coyote F-150's. Try the Motorcraft RT1258 thermostat, its the OEM thermostat for the new Explorer ST's. Same fit form and function but 10-15 degrees cooler. Will drop your trans temp by 10deg as well. Stock Motorcraft is RT1251 for the record. Use Felpro O-Ring 35991and the new Motorcraft Yellow Coolant VC-13-G. I have and 18 F-150 and a 22 Explorer ST. Noticed the ST runs at a constant coolant temp of 180, purchased an the RT1258 and installed in my F150 and its runs 185-190 now with AC on as that causes the shutters to stay open. Trans stays under 180. I also have a PPE Pan but the regular capacity not the deep one. The pan is good for quicker recovery from higher temp but does not lower the temps more than 1 or 2 degrees by itself. I use a Scan Gauge II in my ST and a Banks Data Monster in my F-150. I also have a Banks Tune for the F-150 + CVFab intercooler. Fun stuff!
Thanks for the info, I will definitely take a look at it. You're absolutely correct. The transmission pan won't make the transimission run any cooler. It just bleeds off heat quicker. I recently swapped out the thermostat in the race car to an 80C, which kept it at a steady 180F all weekend. No check engine lights from the cooler temps? I am running a Five Star tune.
How Much more FLUID Does it Require ???? And What about the FILLING of the TRANNY when you are Done??? How do you Check the Fluid Level to be Sure it is "Correct" And not Low or Over Full?????
I just got my PPE Transmission Pan in today for my Roush F150 5.0L. I’m hoping it lowers the temps. Mine now gets up to 210 degrees on the highway, not hauling anything, with 55K miles on the truck. That seems a little too hot to me for not hauling anything. It does have the Oz Omega X tune on it, though.
There are more productive ways to fix cooling for the mustang. Ideally moving trans cooler from in front of the rad is ideal. The engine will target 212 (temp fan turns on) so the other fluids will gravitate to that temp. The extra trans fluid will just make temp changes happen slower.
Sorry I have been absolutely buried. Quick update, I pull up hill often in NC, I did see the temp climb as high as 212F, but only temporarily. It would start to drop and head back down to 204-206F. I had times where it stated at 196-198F. Definitely an improvement from the original constant 208-210F before the swap.
Heat kills transmissions in general. The Ford dash temperature maxes out at 215F. The new pan comes with the ability to add an external gauge if you want to know what it really climbs to.
@@trippsspeedshop6848the mustang 10r80 temp gauge maxes out at 300. Warning (yellow) is like 250-260. Hot (red) is above that. Weird that it’s so different. Unless you modify the trans internals, it tries to run around 200. The only way to get better cooling is installing a better cooler or moving it. The volume of trans fluid will just buffer temp fluctuations but it will take longer to warm up AND COOL.
I can't see temps being any different by simply changing out the pan...even if you have capacity for more ATF. I think what's ultimately going to affect your temps is the cooler. Full-Race has a front-mounted transmission cooler available, but running lines from the transmission to the front sounds like a pain in the ass.
I make heat sinks for military and aerospace computers. The aluminum fins are amazing at drawing out heat. Sure, the truck has a small factory radiator with a thermostat, so the pan only does so much. But it bleeds heat out of that pan when the transmission is working it's hardest, cools it down quicker. If It gives me a longer service life and makes maintenance easier, it's a win.
@@angelsoftheseventhdawn I pull about 8k lbs and see temperatures climb sometimes to 225F going up a lot of hills. It stays about 195F without a trailer.
What were the follow on temperature results compared to the previous cover and the additional fluid?
Awesome video. I have this exact pan I’m going to be putting on my 2017 3.5 ecoboost tomorrow. I got new filter, gasket and seals too along with ten quarts of motorcraft ULV (I wanted to make sure I have more than enough). I have almost 70k on the factory filter and fluid so it’s definitely overdue but I don’t do much towing and even when I do it’s fairly light. My temps generally stay under 190 even in the summer. I just didn’t want to do this job and throw a crappy plastic pan back on.
What’s funny I just ordered mine and is getting installed this Thursday so I’m glad this video popped up so I can see how it’s done and what my mechanic is gonna do. I’m getting all the work done as well not just us.
How much did it cost you for a mechanic to do it?
Great video , I have a 2019 F-150 Platinum 2wd with the 3.0 Powestroke diesel and thinking of upgrading my transmission pan with the PPE.
I have a 2022 Ford Transit 350 HR AWD. This transmission look exactly the same as what is in my Transit. I wonder if I could do this.
What happens if you do t put the rubber piece off the old filter on the new one.
Installed on my 2020 at 50K. 3.5 Ecoboost. Took 12 quarts.
Hey Tripp! On the topic of cooling and T-Stats for the EcoBoost and Coyote F-150's. Try the Motorcraft RT1258 thermostat, its the OEM thermostat for the new Explorer ST's. Same fit form and function but 10-15 degrees cooler. Will drop your trans temp by 10deg as well. Stock Motorcraft is RT1251 for the record. Use Felpro O-Ring 35991and the new Motorcraft Yellow Coolant VC-13-G. I have and 18 F-150 and a 22 Explorer ST. Noticed the ST runs at a constant coolant temp of 180, purchased an the RT1258 and installed in my F150 and its runs 185-190 now with AC on as that causes the shutters to stay open. Trans stays under 180. I also have a PPE Pan but the regular capacity not the deep one. The pan is good for quicker recovery from higher temp but does not lower the temps more than 1 or 2 degrees by itself. I use a Scan Gauge II in my ST and a Banks Data Monster in my F-150. I also have a Banks Tune for the F-150 + CVFab intercooler. Fun stuff!
Thanks for the info, I will definitely take a look at it. You're absolutely correct. The transmission pan won't make the transimission run any cooler. It just bleeds off heat quicker. I recently swapped out the thermostat in the race car to an 80C, which kept it at a steady 180F all weekend. No check engine lights from the cooler temps? I am running a Five Star tune.
@@trippsspeedshop6848 All good. Stock temps steady 198-201. New Temps 185-190. NO check engine lights. Driven 100 miles so far.
Would love a follow up video. Have you experienced lower temps?
I tow for the first time since the installation this weekend. I'm eager to see the results as well. I will post a follow up for sure.
@@trippsspeedshop6848 Thanks for doing this, your the only one on YT who has done a PPE pan on a 10R80.
Nice. That and a banks rear differential cover helps a lot 💪💨💯
Where did you find the banks rear differential cover ? I looked on the website couldn’t find one thanks in advance
How Much more FLUID Does it Require ???? And What about the FILLING of the TRANNY when you are Done??? How do you Check the Fluid Level to be Sure it is "Correct" And not Low or Over Full?????
Does it use the factory filter or do they use a different one? Thank you
Same factory Motorcraft filter.
Hey, how has this pan been working out? Thinking about changing my F-150 transmission pan
How do you check the level? The stock dipstick is too short now isn’t it?
The full level remains the same regardless of pan depth
how many quarts total?
It seems this upgrade shouldn't void the manufacturer warranty either, can anyone confirm?
Any updates on if it helps keep it cool or worth it?
Whats the pn for the 2 seals?
Subscribed. Any chance you'd be willing to rent out your time and lift to help out with this exact job?
How much fluid did you need to get to the correct level? I just did mine and I’m at 11 qt and with it running there is nothing on the dipstick.
Says I purchased 12. I'm definitely sure I didn't use them all. I had the truck in the air so I could move the transmission through all gears.
Loved your video im gonna get that transmission oil pan for my 5.0 roush f150
I just got my PPE Transmission Pan in today for my Roush F150 5.0L. I’m hoping it lowers the temps. Mine now gets up to 210 degrees on the highway, not hauling anything, with 55K miles on the truck. That seems a little too hot to me for not hauling anything. It does have the Oz Omega X tune on it, though.
This should work with a 10r80 mustang right ?
It should definitely fit, I would make sure you have the ground clearance for the deeper pan. The standard size would be no problem.
There are more productive ways to fix cooling for the mustang. Ideally moving trans cooler from in front of the rad is ideal. The engine will target 212 (temp fan turns on) so the other fluids will gravitate to that temp. The extra trans fluid will just make temp changes happen slower.
Any regrets or leaking?
None whatsoever. 73K miles, no leaks, zero issues.
Looking forward to a follow up video or a comment below about your experience with this new pan.
Sorry I have been absolutely buried. Quick update, I pull up hill often in NC, I did see the temp climb as high as 212F, but only temporarily. It would start to drop and head back down to 204-206F. I had times where it stated at 196-198F. Definitely an improvement from the original constant 208-210F before the swap.
How hot is too hot for transmission?
Heat kills transmissions in general. The Ford dash temperature maxes out at 215F. The new pan comes with the ability to add an external gauge if you want to know what it really climbs to.
@@trippsspeedshop6848the mustang 10r80 temp gauge maxes out at 300. Warning (yellow) is like 250-260. Hot (red) is above that. Weird that it’s so different. Unless you modify the trans internals, it tries to run around 200. The only way to get better cooling is installing a better cooler or moving it. The volume of trans fluid will just buffer temp fluctuations but it will take longer to warm up AND COOL.
I can't see temps being any different by simply changing out the pan...even if you have capacity for more ATF. I think what's ultimately going to affect your temps is the cooler. Full-Race has a front-mounted transmission cooler available, but running lines from the transmission to the front sounds like a pain in the ass.
I make heat sinks for military and aerospace computers. The aluminum fins are amazing at drawing out heat. Sure, the truck has a small factory radiator with a thermostat, so the pan only does so much. But it bleeds heat out of that pan when the transmission is working it's hardest, cools it down quicker. If It gives me a longer service life and makes maintenance easier, it's a win.
You said your temps were about 210 while towing? Those seem like normal numbers even without towing. Any improvements at all?
@@angelsoftheseventhdawn I pull about 8k lbs and see temperatures climb sometimes to 225F going up a lot of hills. It stays about 195F without a trailer.
Where's your shop located?
Raleigh, NC
Wish I had this on my 18 5.0.
PPE told me no need to reinstall heat shields as they're there to protect the plastic pan.
I would still install the heat shields as radiant heat will get transferred to the metal pan and thus the oil.
10r80 is thermostatically controlled not to run any cooler.
Agreed, but the transmission doesn't stay at 210-212F the majority of the trip anymore, it rides around 204F.
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