@@captaincrapface7337 merely pointing out a problem that has affected player base for a while :) If you really wanna go there though…. Give me pulsing stab and swiftness, give me an elite that isn’t outdone by some other professions utility skill, like the ability to have pulsing stab new skills with CC, or revive/reset. Give me and unblockable/undodgable pull that can be applied to you 3 different ways. Give me a weapon that can apply 8k healing in 2 seconds on zerk stats and block for 3 seconds and apply unblock to me. I’ll take the 900 distance evade knockdown too while you’re at it. How about the take 0 damage every time I use an elite skill too. I’ll take a spammable reveal that applies 15 vuln while being unblockable too actually. Also hmu with that add 360 prec and fero while fully charging my F1. Imagine that shatter. How about a weapon that can do 3 seconds stun 2 second knockdown and a knock back with a 13k damage skill on it. Any and every class has stuff that sounds outrageous on it. I merely pointed out a common problem that players shared lol.
You know Crapface... I'm kind of happy that the final product is different from the version you reviewed during the Beta... Maybe I'll give it a shot if I ever run a power build on my Berserker again... But sword is just _so good_ Thanks for that tip 😀
Since the release of the expansion, I haven't touched the warrior's and ranger's spears, because they looked terrible during testing, but at that moment the "wpierdol" convinced me to put a spear on my warrior and go into battle! XD Pozdro. :D
Sometime simplicity is just perfect over some weapon mechanic that has broken implémentation since beta and still has broken implémentation after release and up to this day
people say that spear does a lot of damage but what exactly did people expect from a weapon that has 0 boons, 0 condis and all it does is throwing power spears at the opponent?
Lol i think I read on the forums someone theorizing that Spear was "Just Gunsaber under the hood" ... Explosive spears eh ANet? :D | But for real, the best part of Spear, *hands-down,* is that it doesn't feel like they leveraged ALL of Warrior's power budget on to the Burst/Primal Bursts for once. As you mentioned, those damage % modifiers are probably there for both flavor & easy-future balance updates. Which gives me cope that they won't nerf the actual Spear mechanics imo. Also, you're accidentally playing Bladesworn in the beginning of this video, and if it makes you feel any better Relic of Rivers is good. But I've been testing it a LOT lately and I don't think that it's existence is really all that bad. You need insane boon duration investment to get anywhere near 100% uptime on alacrity. Which is, at most, 2 or 3 seconds off a skill in PvP. But as you've mentioned the bigger issue is that Full Counter is idiotic and probably just needs to be Spear 5 so there's counterplay. Also also, just fyi, they enabled [Warrior's Sprint] movespeed on Spear again. Or maybe it never went away and I'm on something. So who knows if that's working as intended !?!? But yeah, Spear feels good! 😄
Spear proves that good weapon skills can make an entire class work. Almost like weapons, movement, and positioning is the bread and butter of Guild Wars 2 combat. However, now there is no reason to swap to another weapon other than Staff.
Yes, its a bit apparent that warrior currently has two good weapons, lol. However, there are now builds around that work better thanks to spear, which were previosusly very dificult to utilize. For example glasscannon Berserker, finally has a chance in 1 v 1 against SPB, which he didn't have for years.
I tried the berserker dps glass cannon too and the spear didn't perform as well as rifle because of the limitations you pointed out. And instead built a spellbreaker that could comfortably engage 4v1s for as long as stances were available and could still dps, broke asf 😅
Spear is really good but I wouldn't call it the best weapon warrior has. That Title goes to Staff. Warriors currently dominating the PvP game mode feels good to be honest. Some tournament matches had 4 Warriors in it and the Team that Won for EU had 2 of them.
@@gewreid5946 im just hoping Anet uses their brain for once and nerfs the actual problematic spec (Spb) instead of nerfing the class as a whole and destroying the other specs in the process.
After playing testing it, I've warmed up to Warrior Spear. However, there are two things I have issues with. 1. The auto functionality of Warrior Spear should've been what Thief Spear Autos are. It's still confusing to why it more effective at close range; just make it do melee autos instead when at close range, please. Other than that, I have no big issues with the Spear's functionality on its other skills. 2. The 2 skill of Warrior Spear should actually apply other conditions other than cripple. Otherwise, they need to change it's misleading description.
Warrior changing to melee animations with different effects, maybe weakening, would be great, as well as Guardian being allowed to throw their spears with auto attack. The auto attack feature they were so proud of not being applied to all classes is insane.
@@LevyBaranek dwaj najbliźsi knadydaci to: Worek - bo wpierdol i 90% grania nim to wymagający wariackiego uporu test cierpliwości, prawie jak w ZUS'ie tyle że na koniec możesz trzepnąć to co cię wkóórwiało. Inżynier - bo rodem z zawodówki, wszystkie jego umiejki to improwizacja na odpierdol i ma zawsze przy sobie cały asortyment flaszek z podejrzaną zawartością.
Warrior player here and i want all of your cooldowns to replace mine. Channeled block on 12 sec cooldown? Teleport on 15? BF multihitting AoE doing tons of damage on 15 again? AoE stability on 10 seconds, and taunt on 15? Sighn me the fuck up!
@captaincrapface7337 You should try playing Revenant if only to expose the intricacies of the class to more people because somehow spvp forum folks think we can do everything on the same utility bar without running dry of energy which baffles me.
@@YasaiTsume the same forum somehow thinks that if the same speck was OP with Hammer, for half a year, then with staff for another half a year, and now it is with spear, while two others were barerly even played, wit either of thease weapons, then that means the OP speck is 100% not the problem. There's no hope for Spvp forums.
Defense, Discipline Spellbreaker, has 6sec CD on burst, and can reset said burst with [Full Counter]. Between F1 > F2 > F1 combo, (2,5 sec uninterrupted evasion) spear 5 and his innate dodges + Signet of Stamina, and SPB gets Thief level of evasion. Now add to that Defiant Stance, Balanced Stance, and Endure Pain, and Relic of Rivers for Alac, to reduce ALL of his defensive cooldowns, and SPB can not just hold but take ground, in a 1 v 3 scenario. Spellbreaker was a problem for many months in a row, and he consostwntly gets things nerfed (like staff just got) becouse he can abuse everything remotely strong in warrior's toolkit. Btw [Full Counter] is bugged, getting VD reduction from Discipline traits twice. :)
or maybe have some condis with the potentional to build something different other than a defence power warrior... I swear that if the next weapon is not a condi weapon for warrior, i am gonna sue anet.
@@captaincrapface7337 healing and boons worse than staff, cc worse than longbow, no condition damage, symbol on 5 labeled incorrectly/bugged doesn't proc symbol related traits, movement on 2 require full stop like old sword 3 + ground targetting shits bed on any slope in the terrain, 1 is not ranged/mid switch like revenants' and heal scaling is ass (way below regen performance) Overall only power dh can use it in none-meme way assuming you are ok with melee only.
@@mvga2687 so you are mad that your spear... doesn't have better support effects than dedicated support weapon... doesn't have better CC than th most disgusting CC tool in the game... and is a power weapon... And you pretend that warrior spear which doesn't have ANY suport utility, has very little CC, and is a power weapon too is somegow leagues above it? Furthermore: "Movement on skil 2 is bad" - at least you have any... "Skill 1 is mele" - it has 350 range, and is an AoE, ignoring projectile block, auras, and LoS. how many priviledges do you need to be happy? "Only Power DH can use it in non meme way" - I'm guessing all those Spear Willbenders in G3 are just memeing around huh? Fair enough, As a zerker enjoyer, i can respect that. Still, you act like you weren't casually handled a top 3 contender for best spear in the game, and noone is crying for Guardian's spear to be nerfed into oblivion :/
@@captaincrapface7337 Top 3? Maybe from the bottom. With Rev, Thief, Mesmer, Engineer, Warrior and Ranger in that order all having better toolkits than Guardian's by a mile. Only 2 more fucked profs are Necros and Eles that got all flashy moves with no pump. Mad? That's a lot of assumptions. I played all of them extesively in the past week-some and i'm agreeing with you that warriors got a W they desperately needed. Also historically warrior wasn't seen as a support prof and anet did everything to kill of support utility of the warrior with 10MUE removal and shitshow with banners. If you wish it had boons on top of what it already has I'm all for it. Fuck. Give it alacrity or quickness for each successful hit on 4. Still wouldn't be 'broken'.
@@mvga2687 pretty much every spear was a massive W, compairing them completly misses the point. Nontheless, I'm pretty certain you at least partially undervalue Guardian's spear. I consistently see Willbenders utilize it to great effect.
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I love it, we finally get access to decent ranged skill that is multi hit. berserker can no longer be denied a burst by just a simple aegis or blind
Comically simple yet subtly complex in practice sounds like what warrior should be.
Swanlake into WPIERDOL airlines is my favorite!
3:25 *nuts on Keyboard *
My God, that thumbnail is hilarious x)
"ahhhh very nice" - Borat
Ahh directional skill goes on broken facing CD… welcome to every Virtuoso lol
Gimme invis and two 1200 ports, then we talk about how it is to play virtuoso XD.
@@captaincrapface7337 merely pointing out a problem that has affected player base for a while :)
If you really wanna go there though….
Give me pulsing stab and swiftness, give me an elite that isn’t outdone by some other professions utility skill, like the ability to have pulsing stab new skills with CC, or revive/reset. Give me and unblockable/undodgable pull that can be applied to you 3 different ways. Give me a weapon that can apply 8k healing in 2 seconds on zerk stats and block for 3 seconds and apply unblock to me. I’ll take the 900 distance evade knockdown too while you’re at it. How about the take 0 damage every time I use an elite skill too. I’ll take a spammable reveal that applies 15 vuln while being unblockable too actually. Also hmu with that add 360 prec and fero while fully charging my F1. Imagine that shatter. How about a weapon that can do 3 seconds stun 2 second knockdown and a knock back with a 13k damage skill on it.
Any and every class has stuff that sounds outrageous on it. I merely pointed out a common problem that players shared lol.
@@captaincrapface7337 dont forget 5 f1 skills on top of offhand sword with dagger and the class is a goddamn 1200 range rifle turret
You know Crapface... I'm kind of happy that the final product is different from the version you reviewed during the Beta...
Maybe I'll give it a shot if I ever run a power build on my Berserker again...
But sword is just _so good_
Thanks for that tip 😀
can’t agree more 👍 ty for the video
Since the release of the expansion, I haven't touched the warrior's and ranger's spears, because they looked terrible during testing, but at that moment the "wpierdol" convinced me to put a spear on my warrior and go into battle! XD
Pozdro. :D
Sometime simplicity is just perfect over some weapon mechanic that has broken implémentation since beta and still has broken implémentation after release and up to this day
people say that spear does a lot of damage but what exactly did people expect from a weapon that has 0 boons, 0 condis and all it does is throwing power spears at the opponent?
Lol i think I read on the forums someone theorizing that Spear was "Just Gunsaber under the hood" ... Explosive spears eh ANet? :D | But for real, the best part of Spear, *hands-down,* is that it doesn't feel like they leveraged ALL of Warrior's power budget on to the Burst/Primal Bursts for once. As you mentioned, those damage % modifiers are probably there for both flavor & easy-future balance updates. Which gives me cope that they won't nerf the actual Spear mechanics imo.
Also, you're accidentally playing Bladesworn in the beginning of this video, and if it makes you feel any better Relic of Rivers is good. But I've been testing it a LOT lately and I don't think that it's existence is really all that bad. You need insane boon duration investment to get anywhere near 100% uptime on alacrity. Which is, at most, 2 or 3 seconds off a skill in PvP. But as you've mentioned the bigger issue is that Full Counter is idiotic and probably just needs to be Spear 5 so there's counterplay.
Also also, just fyi, they enabled [Warrior's Sprint] movespeed on Spear again. Or maybe it never went away and I'm on something. So who knows if that's working as intended !?!? But yeah, Spear feels good! 😄
Spear proves that good weapon skills can make an entire class work. Almost like weapons, movement, and positioning is the bread and butter of Guild Wars 2 combat. However, now there is no reason to swap to another weapon other than Staff.
Yes, its a bit apparent that warrior currently has two good weapons, lol.
However, there are now builds around that work better thanks to spear, which were previosusly very dificult to utilize.
For example glasscannon Berserker, finally has a chance in 1 v 1 against SPB, which he didn't have for years.
@@captaincrapface7337 Staff and Spear really did shake things up. I'll still want to use Rifle regardless.
I tried the berserker dps glass cannon too and the spear didn't perform as well as rifle because of the limitations you pointed out.
And instead built a spellbreaker that could comfortably engage 4v1s for as long as stances were available and could still dps, broke asf 😅
RIP GREATSWORD WARRIOR 😭
warrior has two weapon sets bro
Spear is really good but I wouldn't call it the best weapon warrior has. That Title goes to Staff. Warriors currently dominating the PvP game mode feels good to be honest. Some tournament matches had 4 Warriors in it and the Team that Won for EU had 2 of them.
Enjoy it while it lasts before it gets overnerfed and warrior disappears into irrelevance again.
@@gewreid5946 im just hoping Anet uses their brain for once and nerfs the actual problematic spec (Spb) instead of nerfing the class as a whole and destroying the other specs in the process.
Meanwhile spear ele PVP… 🤡
After playing testing it, I've warmed up to Warrior Spear.
However, there are two things I have issues with.
1. The auto functionality of Warrior Spear should've been what Thief Spear Autos are. It's still confusing to why it more effective at close range; just make it do melee autos instead when at close range, please. Other than that, I have no big issues with the Spear's functionality on its other skills.
2. The 2 skill of Warrior Spear should actually apply other conditions other than cripple. Otherwise, they need to change it's misleading description.
Warrior changing to melee animations with different effects, maybe weakening, would be great, as well as Guardian being allowed to throw their spears with auto attack. The auto attack feature they were so proud of not being applied to all classes is insane.
im just enjoying it before it gets nerfed.
0:58 w8 w8 whoa, are you polish?
ależ skądże, nigdy w życiu XDD
@@captaincrapface7337 trzeba się będzie kiedyś ustawić na wpierdol
@@captaincrapface7337 jaka profesja gw2 jest najbardziej polska?
@@LevyBaranek dwaj najbliźsi knadydaci to:
Worek - bo wpierdol i 90% grania nim to wymagający wariackiego uporu test cierpliwości, prawie jak w ZUS'ie tyle że na koniec możesz trzepnąć to co cię wkóórwiało.
Inżynier - bo rodem z zawodówki, wszystkie jego umiejki to improwizacja na odpierdol i ma zawsze przy sobie cały asortyment flaszek z podejrzaną zawartością.
@@captaincrapface7337 wygrałeś worek czereśni
Only thing i hate is wvw a person with spear 3 that hit box is way to small.
Yo i recently saw you by the training dummy and I said crapface out and you logged off fr 😂
Too many “war spear good” videos. War spear nerf inbound!
Revenant player here, would like your Spear 4 to replace my GS 5 please and thank you.
Warrior player here and i want all of your cooldowns to replace mine.
Channeled block on 12 sec cooldown?
Teleport on 15?
BF multihitting AoE doing tons of damage on 15 again?
AoE stability on 10 seconds, and taunt on 15?
Sighn me the fuck up!
@captaincrapface7337 You should try playing Revenant if only to expose the intricacies of the class to more people because somehow spvp forum folks think we can do everything on the same utility bar without running dry of energy which baffles me.
@@YasaiTsume the same forum somehow thinks that if the same speck was OP with Hammer, for half a year, then with staff for another half a year, and now it is with spear, while two others were barerly even played, wit either of thease weapons, then that means the OP speck is 100% not the problem.
There's no hope for Spvp forums.
Don't act like spellbreaker is a problem when almost every class has a way to ignore damage as often or longer (mesmer) than spellbreaker
Defense, Discipline Spellbreaker, has 6sec CD on burst, and can reset said burst with [Full Counter]. Between F1 > F2 > F1 combo, (2,5 sec uninterrupted evasion) spear 5 and his innate dodges + Signet of Stamina, and SPB gets Thief level of evasion.
Now add to that Defiant Stance, Balanced Stance, and Endure Pain, and Relic of Rivers for Alac, to reduce ALL of his defensive cooldowns, and SPB can not just hold but take ground, in a 1 v 3 scenario.
Spellbreaker was a problem for many months in a row, and he consostwntly gets things nerfed (like staff just got) becouse he can abuse everything remotely strong in warrior's toolkit.
Btw [Full Counter] is bugged, getting VD reduction from Discipline traits twice. :)
I just wish it was a more interesting kit yaknow
or maybe have some condis with the potentional to build something different other than a defence power warrior...
I swear that if the next weapon is not a condi weapon for warrior, i am gonna sue anet.
What is main?
You mean Mine? Or in general?
@@captaincrapface7337 Yes, yes, yours.
@@ลุงแชมป์-ฒ5ฏ warrior, of course.
Why the question?
I wish guardian got spear half as good as this.
Your wish has been granted, becouse guardian's spear is practically equall to warrior's
@@captaincrapface7337 healing and boons worse than staff, cc worse than longbow, no condition damage,
symbol on 5 labeled incorrectly/bugged doesn't proc symbol related traits,
movement on 2 require full stop like old sword 3 + ground targetting shits bed on any slope in the terrain,
1 is not ranged/mid switch like revenants' and heal scaling is ass (way below regen performance)
Overall only power dh can use it in none-meme way assuming you are ok with melee only.
@@mvga2687 so you are mad that your spear...
doesn't have better support effects than dedicated support weapon...
doesn't have better CC than th most disgusting CC tool in the game...
and is a power weapon...
And you pretend that warrior spear which doesn't have ANY suport utility, has very little CC, and is a power weapon too is somegow leagues above it?
Furthermore:
"Movement on skil 2 is bad" - at least you have any...
"Skill 1 is mele" - it has 350 range, and is an AoE, ignoring projectile block, auras, and LoS. how many priviledges do you need to be happy?
"Only Power DH can use it in non meme way" - I'm guessing all those Spear Willbenders in G3 are just memeing around huh?
Fair enough, As a zerker enjoyer, i can respect that.
Still, you act like you weren't casually handled a top 3 contender for best spear in the game, and noone is crying for Guardian's spear to be nerfed into oblivion :/
@@captaincrapface7337 Top 3? Maybe from the bottom. With Rev, Thief, Mesmer, Engineer, Warrior and Ranger in that order all having better toolkits than Guardian's by a mile. Only 2 more fucked profs are Necros and Eles that got all flashy moves with no pump.
Mad? That's a lot of assumptions. I played all of them extesively in the past week-some and i'm agreeing with you that warriors got a W they desperately needed. Also historically warrior wasn't seen as a support prof and anet did everything to kill of support utility of the warrior with 10MUE removal and shitshow with banners. If you wish it had boons on top of what it already has I'm all for it. Fuck. Give it alacrity or quickness for each successful hit on 4. Still wouldn't be 'broken'.
@@mvga2687 pretty much every spear was a massive W, compairing them completly misses the point.
Nontheless, I'm pretty certain you at least partially undervalue Guardian's spear. I consistently see Willbenders utilize it to great effect.