A whole weapon set made out of sewing and knitting supplies would be really cool actually! Like a pincushion mace, a button shield, or a staff where the top is balls of yarn.
I cannot agree more with the buff bar rework. Keeping an eye on a TINY icon to know when you need to do something or not like Untamed Ambush is hilarity.
Untamed ambushes with Let Loose are great in PvE since you can use your weapon swap cooldown to time it. It's for this reason I never play Untamed in any other context than quickness provider in PvE.
@@CuriousMoth I'm the same. You also simply get used to the rhythm. I have "defensive" mode and "offensive" mode. When the pet skill icons are green, I am in "defensive" mode.
Reminds me of The Secret World when it was super necessary to have a mod to you could configure to have specific buffs (on you and/or the target) pop up on screen. Would be cool for GW2 to have something where you could tweak specific buffs to have icons at whatever part of the screen you want them in. Would be cool to sort buffs too, so if you were watching for alac or quickness duration, it wouldn't shuffle when another boon pops up. Does ANET have a place where they take feedback like that? /ponder
While I love the ele spear, the weaver dual-skills are a massively missed opportunity to give ele a truly ranged spec (in all circumstances, similar to virtuoso). I hope they will be reworked to enable spear weaver to be a competitive ranged DPS build. It's regrettable that the most damaging build - spear tempest - requires one to be at close range most of the time, thus defeating the purpose of giving elementalists a 1200 range weapon.
@@pwk50 You can always attune to the same element.... or swap to tempest. It tickles me silly that ANet used haboob as a skill name. Yes, haboob is a real-life occurrence, but it's also hilarious to hear about it. You could just call it Sandstorm and be done with it, instead of naming it that way and have people die of laughter instead of the damage. Also, the one thing that Etching: Jökulhlaup lacks is regen. Volcano, Derecho and Haboob(all etchings) grant might, fury and stability respectively, but Jökulhlaup only has standard healing(and not that much either) instead of regen, which would be a great improvement.
@@pwk50 Yeah that's the result of multiple buffs to weapon skills and Anet forget the dual attune skills exist too... so they went from powerful to fillers.
As a Necro main I've yet to find a compelling reason to replace GS with Spear in PvE (other than the to get the Wizard's Vault achievement). Maybe I just haven't found the right build or rhythm, but I'm 750 kills into the 1000 goal and I'm still feeling "meh" about Spear. It's not bad. I just haven't had a "Wow!" moment with it.
Yeah I’ve only been using spear to chip away at a few achievements but when I switch back to greatsword I can feel the damage difference and I just don’t see any reason to use spear over greatsword. That could always change but for right now spear just makes for something new to have fun wirh
Elementalist spear feels like they hate staff so much they had to make a less interesting replacement. Compare staff to spear, and staff has 20 mostly unique skills(water and earth 2 are pretty similar, air 2 and fire 3 as well, but all the autos have different effects), spear is 5 autos, 10 ground target damage skills, 5 stand and spam here, 4 buff me and 1 movement skill. And spear's dual attacks really prove the designers just don't want to think about weaver. Also, the flow of spear doesn't fit into fresh air rotations at all.
indeed it's a less complicated weapon which makes more people try the class, it's fine and can always be replaced with other weapons, isn't variety convenient?
Engineer spear is amazing, it brought out so many new build possibilities for me in open world, ranging from Condition Scrapper to Celestial Hybrid Mech, its just very effective by itself. The burst is incredible for a condi weapon, it can apply 25 stacks of vulnerability very fast and upkeep it the entire time, and it has good CC unlike pistols.
My first character ever was an engineer. It had become a mule for excess inventory, alt parking and birthday gifts. tried spear with the only specialist role I had acquired (mechanist) and it renewed my interest in the toon. I have been out farming hero points and now have Scrapper and half of Holosmith done. I have tried all the spears and I really did not care for any of the others. Even revenant, which has been my main, was no fun because it was so clear from the start that is was going to get nerfed from the start. I would much rather have seen ranger and necro get a condition or at least hybrid weapon useable on dps Druid and Scourge.
on Thief: weaving in spear skill 4 after a Finisher grants a 10% dmg increase for 10 secs. so basically you can go 222-4 23 1 for a long combo chain with maximum dmg on the stealth attack because skill 4 counts as lead attack. It's fun and breaks the thief mold of spamming 1 skill over and over again. I love that.
As a Necro Main, Greatsword is the highest pure DPS Power Weapon for Reaper, but Spear only losses about 3k DPS in exchange for the massive amount of lifesteal and healing it gains, as well as a gap closer (if you're willing to sacrifice your reset), a FAST interrupt stun, and Boon Ripping. I've been having a lot of fun with the Relic of Atrocity Spear Necro.
@@green_mark If you open with the gap closer, you can't use it to reset. If you use it to reset you can't use it as a gap closer. You can use it as a re-engage and reset if they peal away from you while your 2 is off cooldown, but you rarely get to use 4 for both a reset and gap closer except under niche situations.
As a guardian main, my one issue was that lots of classes got something they didnt have to fill a hole, like warrior with power ranged damage, or mesmer in melee, necro got some neat gap closer, many got some love, but the one and only thing guardian doesnt have, they didnt give it, and that is boon removal, as it is now, spear offers nothing other builds didnt already have
Volcano doesn't damage shirts and busses? Are there a lot of bus enemies in the game? And shirts? This brings new meaning to fashion wars! Thanks for the overview of spears.
As much as I like Ele spear I don’t understand as what spec it should be played with. Tempest is a close combat spec due to overloads, Cata too, weaver yeah good luck with that one xd so… it is a ranged weapon without actual coverage from any of specs. Unless it is meant to be played as core ele?
To me the Ele feels super weak and it is what most people said TBH, the range is super good but once they are close you are not really having a lot of advantage on anything. Plus other Ele weapons at least cleave in Mele or bounce, or have AoE... while the Spear nope... and I mean Auto Attacks obviously, the only one with Splash is Fire IIRC, the others are Single Target, and only the 2 usually pierces... once you used mainly 2 and 4 (whit those huge cooldowns) you are done, the 5 is your big hit and after that again with Auto Attacks or Rotation ASAP so your DPS doesn't become subpar. Others in the other hand like Engi are ridiculously good lol, at the point they will nerf them I assume... but for now everyone feels at least fun
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I dropped nearly 30g on the ascended Wizards Vault spear (by not trading the 1000 tokens for gold) and barely used it for 3 days on my Ranger before I went back to my regular LB/hammer build. It doesn't have the single target destruction and crowd tagging that the LB has or the fun berserker-style gameplay of the hammer
As ele main i am very glad that spear special the air style the lightings are incredbiles good desing at least visualy. But as ele main i also want to see if we can get trident, or shield or axe or a new talent tree like a better elemantels summons.
Thank you for saving me the time to decide which class I'd be using the spear with. I've only tried it on my Reaper but still prefer the fun dual-wielding swords so it's gonna be Mesmer/Elementalist for me.
After catching up on your vods playing through JW I decided to give ele spear a shot, and it's super fun! The synergy between skills & how the 5 skill builds is fun & feels more intentional that just spamming high damage skills. You can tell the devs put a lot of thought into how the skills would work & change with each other. I also gave warrior (my least favorite class) spear a spin and liked it so much I did a lil fashion wars and made a new warrior! I never thought that rifle/bow felt super great, so I love having a nice ranged weapon now (imo).
Coming from a ranger to mesmer to a fresh elementalist, I liked the spear on mesmer and elementalist the most. Mesmer had great dmg and effects, while ele just simplified the rotations for me, while having some really cool effects. Currently using it on the ele tempest and making it my new main for this expac :).
Great video. Great energy. I really wanted to play spear with Mech. It is a lot of fun in most of open world. My only problem with it is that it yeets you inside the boss red circle instead of to the edge of it. If that red circle does huge damage, freezes you, etc., you don't have time to back out of it. Otherwise, it's simply annoying to have to back up every time you use spear 2. Don't know if you noticed this.
I appreciate this as I've forgotten what some of the gimmicks were (didn't have a lot of time to try out the beta) and the ranger one I'd agree. It's serviceable but not fantastic. The mesmer one looked so pretty in overworld that I slapped one on my guy, just rough cause I still really like dagger too, but skill 2 on the spear is so pretty D: Also will probably try the ele one out as I'm still looking for a weapon I gel well with on it. I want to like the class, but having 20 skills does make it rough at times to remember what they all do so I'm glad there seems to be some rhyme/reason to the spear one. Shame that we don't seem to be as gung ho as Fading Aurora XD
I just played spear willbender in wvw and after only an hour of dieing it clicked, now its my new fav over my cele scepter ele now gotta try DH, cele will be nerfed so this is good
In my berzerker build, spear make my build pass from 2 powerful cc skill to 4 powerfull cc skill, and I have the possibility to change from axe close combat to spear range combat. I replaced completely the greatsword by the spear
I said it in your stream and ill say it again. Elementalist spears are so incredibly fun to pull off. I play weaver and its so fun having so many options. My new favorite playstyle is weaver spear
A bit of a hot take, about the bar switching but as a former ESO player who has also played Guild wars two for a long time I think that just because you have the ability to use two weapons doesn’t mean that you should be required to use both like in eso you have oaken soul to enable one bar builds to be viable
Personally, I really like the new landspear because imo it is a very versatile and effective weapon and very entertaining with nice animations for all classes and elite specs. OK, I'm having a bit of trouble with the spear for the ranger because I can't do its "stealth" mode as well as I should. Up until now, Herald and Renegade were my main classes for a long time and I still really enjoy playing them with the new spear either. The revenant landspear skill 3 ("Abyssal Blitz" + "Blitz Mines") is awesome and very effective imo. With the revenant just use TWO spears to get the damage benefit for skill 5 by weapon swap when having three skill 5 stacks so you`re constantly fighting with a spear, you don`t need a different weapon set for this effect or benefit. The description for skill 5 only says that you trigger this effect when you swap weapons the moment you`ve reached three stacks; it doesn't say that you need a different weapon set for this and when I`m using two spears with my revenant it works as it should, problem solved and not existing. But now the engineer as a mechanist with my two different builds has become my absolute favorite, along with the mech buddy at his side and the spear and short bow as weapons. These two weapons are absolutely equally useful and exciting for me and the short bow is not just a stopgap solution if close combat is too risky or impossible for special reason. My two builds are "Celestial" plus "Tempest" runes for open world adventures and "Viper" plus "Lich" runes when necessary, for example for certain group content when I dont`t want a higher toughness value.
Necro spear is plain useless in pve. And the shards, who is the mastermind at Janet that thought it was cool to have the souldshards around the character when most of the times during combar you won't be able to see your own character in the middle of all the gfx bloat?
For the revenant spear u can go for mace/axe on celestial open world renegade it's really good, the rotation is 525345 spear then swap and 23452 mace/axe and repeat, it's really good
Not only does it not hit some bosses, the initial explosion of the volcano appearing doesn't do any dmg, in my opinion it really should, it absolutely looks like it would do dmg.. instead only those little balls? Pls fix..
Great video! The spear spell breaker is broken right now in pvp, needs to be nerfed. In the latest 3v3 tournament both teams that made it to the finals each had 2 spear spell breakers!
ngl the revenant spear got the nerf it deserved but it such a fun weapon as someone who plays pretty casual but still raids(cm) and fractals cms it was the first time after the nerf i went and tried different combination with the spear to see what could do better, i love it alot and hopefully it doesnt get nerfed again
Before spear, two of the biggest complaints from eles were overly complicated mechanics and a lack of a viable ranged weapon. With spears, two of the biggest complaints from eles are overly simplistic mechanics and lack of melee range -_- As an Ele main since GW1, all I want to do is SURVIVE, and look cool while doing it.
Engi spear is easy... which makes it very nice when you don't want to do all the Engineer things. And it seems to work very well for Power Scrappers. Ele spear is very good, but way too flashy. Giant etchings make it hard to see enemy AOE fields & generally distract you from what is going on. I wonder if I'm contributing to other players' deaths due to my etchings. And Mesmer spear is definitely good. Still trying to find the setup that I like best for a power Chrono, but it just works. I really like Thief spear as well. The ability to flip between Power (button 3) and Condi (button 2) on one weapon is nice.
As an Engi main that's actually something that annoys me. Since EoD, every new addition to the engi class has apparently been targeted toward players that don't want to play Engi. Mechanist was created to enable kitless gameplay, which is a good idea, but it removes the toolbelt skills, essentially making the kits almost the only core skills worth taking. The shortbow was also very poorly designed, with 4 ranged ground targeted skills that you must put at your feet to get any benefit. As Laranity says, the spear feels very boring compared to most other professions' spears, and the main gimmick is currently unreliable due to a bug. The "lighting weapon" theme is also a repeat of the scrapper hammer, which was better executed in every aspect. It just feels like Anet is just completely out of ideas on what to do with Engi.
Just tried "try hard" rotation on necro spear since I was pretty casually enjoying JW since its released and I agree that the window between flipped 4 and 2 is really tight and even tighter if you are playing without quickness or/and alac. I hope they buff the duration on necro spear 4 second skill a bit.
For Engineer, 5 should be an instant teleport/warp type move, animation is way too long. 4..... 4 looks amazing, but needs a bigger area of effect, and again instant to 1/4 second animation or at least give evade for 1 second during the cast. 3 is nice, just needs a bigger aoe, and make it a flip skill, so you can throw the spear whenever you want. 2 is great, just the leap finisher needs to just count in general. Right now it doesnt count as a leap finisher UNLESS you have/connect with your target.... Lastly, the auto attack chain is again, too slow. Lastly, a hope for Engi in general. Now that we have shortbow/spear/pistol mh & oh/mace/shield/sword/hammer/rifle, we deserve weapon swap in combat. Just make it so if you have a kit in any heal/elite/3 utility slot you lose in-combat weapon swap. Anet wants Engis to use more stuff outside of kits, the buff to gadgets didn't change much. Give me weapon swap in combat, rifle hammer scrapper hell yah, spear/pistol&shield mech or holo, hell yeah.
AS an ele main i share the sentiment ideawise, but the execution is bad. The visual clutter is intense (especially for spell 5 for doing nothing actually but being a "stand here" boundary, the second skill is the important part right?), the tuning is just wack (just compare loads of the 2 and 4 skills on damage/uitlity and cooldown times) and many of the skills in actually feel more clunky than flowing together (especially with the 5 skill at times). Also: compared to other weapons it feels very weak. I forced myself to play spear first week, then switched to my old set and recently tried other spears (e.g. necro) and was blown away by the amount of their damage. PS: Tbf a lot of this can just be tweaked by adjusting numbers (for the love of god anet, please look at some of the clunky feeling cast times) And yea buffbar hate!!! We needed the rework 2020 anet xD
I use a "Power Spellbonker" build in open world, centered on buffing CC skills and bursts (AKA "bonks"). Spear fit in very nicely since, like Hammer, it has two CCs and its burst is also a CC. Also Mesmer Spear is. So. Satisfying. The spear combo flows very nicely and naturally, and generates so many clones to boot.
My only issue with the thief spear, is that its animations take way too long for the damage they put out. Like there's a near 2 second wind up on some of the attacks, when most of the thief weapons are able to put out their attacks much faster and without quickness. For example the auto attacks. The auto attack has dagger's damage. But the sluggishness of the Sword auto.
I don't like spears because of these big circle animations, it's just another visual clutter, it makes the game look so cheap compared to other games. I always say they should revamp old weapons like the Worrier greatsword, but every time I see them adding new weapons with such visual clutter animations, I'm afraid they'll ruin the old things.
Ranger spear and thief for that matter were done dirty… every mob enemy and their mother spam "reveal" killing my stealth before I can do the stealth enhanced move. :/
Hi gang! Quick question. I have been playing the base game (Free) and really dig it. I plan on waiting for a sale for the early expansion bundles (they go on sale often enough with massive savings). In the meantime, what new DLC does anyone recommend I grab? Want to take advantage of the benefits of owning one. Should I start with Secrets of the Obscure?
checking spears in pve is a bad way to test since even a stick with good enough number works in pve. Well not like you put effort in necromancer one anyway. Just worried anet only listens to streamers and start thinking the necro spear is good.
@@LaranityDid u try hitting moving things with spear5 and spear3. Or maybe if enemy a moved a little bit while doing perforate i.e spear#2 and it tracks so slow that it doesnt hit anything. Theres massive range and animations problems with the necromancer spear which you wont get if you just do golem or open world testing of things where you are hitting static things while being inside their hitbox all the time. Anyway, these issues are not preference issues. These are valid qol issues that make the weapon objectively bad. Ans i just listed the most obvious issues not in depth ones how it desperately required similar autoattack system like other classes with ranged and melee component because right now you stare into the abyss for 18seconds if enemy dodges your massively telegraphed spear 4. And when I see comparatively bigger streamer give feedback as it just might not be everyones cup of tea which implies "its solid but depends on preference" its just disappointing that this is the feedback they are giving. On the other hand, if you play just for cosmetic value then its alright i guess.
Is it possible for some kind of mod that speeds up the kodan talking animations? I seem to spend most of my time waiting for them to finish their sentences...
I only tried it with necromancer/reaper and the attacks felt very weak except skill 5 I do like the large ring around your character it makes that damages everything and gives u a crap ton of might for each enemy it hits. Also attack 4 on necro let’s u one target at range then do attack 4 to teleport to that target. Pretty cool but damage isn’t impressive with spear and there is just no reason to use it over my greatsword. However any new weapon and skills we get I am happy with and it adds more to the game. Also the plushies for our home is one of the best things they have added and I’m definitely going to have fun with it. I’m really enjoying homestead and I hope the content goes far and beyond so we can make a beautiful little homestead
You just gotta play the new expansion's story a little bit! You can jump ahead if you want, but if you care about story it's probably better to play the other expansions first
Easy to get. I would suggest after getting in on your main character to start a new character on the slot you get from the expansion. Try a class that interests you equipping a level one spear from the start. You can do as often as you need to help decide which class works best for you. After I had a feel whether I liked it, I just deleted, rinsed and repeated. Make sure to do the first part of the character story to get a freebee Black Lion key. I did that for guardian, ranger, necro, warrior and engineer in that order. Be warned that the spear--even if you like it--does not work really well on some of the advanced specializations. I only use it now on renegade and mechanist.
so i wondered if people were clever/moral enough to not buy the shit Anet pulls. almost the same price as a full expansion. Im talking about the digital pixel plush thingies for the homestead, another thing to monetize. actively destroying the gaming landscape, thank you
Ranger-spear is hot garbage, let's be honest. Other than that, man, they gave really good options for everyone to play with them in different contents of the game.
Not really a fan of mesmer spear tbh. It lacks the signature QoL and utility, doesn't synergise too well with the rest of the profession (why are none of its skills tagged as Blade?!?) and it puts 2 forced movement abilities into a positioning-sensitive dps rotation. And you still have to hit an enemy to get Clarity, which means you get screwed over by all the random blinds/boon corrupts in the newer content (and the awfully slow update time of the stop/go bounty effect, seriously, can't we finally shelve those already?) Basically half the time it feels like I'm playing _against_ a mesmer, having to pay close attention and jump through extra hoops just so my skills function.
@@ianashmore9910 Sure, but is it interesting to play? Bladesongs being 1200 range doesn't really matter on a melee weapon with a bunch of gap closers, and if anything they can mess up your positioning for piercing. Where's the payoff? Just "number big unga bunga"? Would buffing sword or axe to deal the same dps produce more enjoyable gameplay? (I don't think it would a lot of the time and axe has the same forced displacement issue, but I'm not sure spear is ahead either once you factor out the raw numbers)
@@ianashmore9910 That's what I'm testing right now. Great overall QoL for low-intensity content but falls apart quickly when enemies spam CC or blinds. The alacrity-on-dodge relic helps a lot in solo play. Edit: oh and as with all open world mirage builds just put a sigil of stamina in every weapon set you intend to wield for longer than 10s at a time. Free infinite dodges as long as any trash mobs are around.
are there 1 spear for every class or can you choose which spear you want? noone of these youtubers have answeared this question. and this youtuber might be the worst
Have you ever played GW2? This isn't exactly meant to be a beginners guide. Each class has their own move sets for each weapon they can use in game So every class that can use swords, uses them differently That's the case here, each class can use a spear, but they all have different abilities for them The video has time stamps for how each class uses them. Im confused as to how you got the notion that a class could just choose what moveset they wanted
This would be a perfect opportunity for a plush weapon set where the spear is a knitting needle.
Holy shit this is the best idea ever
A whole weapon set made out of sewing and knitting supplies would be really cool actually! Like a pincushion mace, a button shield, or a staff where the top is balls of yarn.
Coming to a gem store near you
janet, when?!
please no more fucking plush things
I cannot agree more with the buff bar rework. Keeping an eye on a TINY icon to know when you need to do something or not like Untamed Ambush is hilarity.
Allegedly, there's an addon called Clarity that lets you make a custom buff bar.
@@ianashmore9910 i mean fair, but imo i dont think a mod should be necesary to utilize all abilities of a kit 😂
Untamed ambushes with Let Loose are great in PvE since you can use your weapon swap cooldown to time it. It's for this reason I never play Untamed in any other context than quickness provider in PvE.
@@CuriousMoth I'm the same. You also simply get used to the rhythm. I have "defensive" mode and "offensive" mode. When the pet skill icons are green, I am in "defensive" mode.
Reminds me of The Secret World when it was super necessary to have a mod to you could configure to have specific buffs (on you and/or the target) pop up on screen. Would be cool for GW2 to have something where you could tweak specific buffs to have icons at whatever part of the screen you want them in.
Would be cool to sort buffs too, so if you were watching for alac or quickness duration, it wouldn't shuffle when another boon pops up.
Does ANET have a place where they take feedback like that? /ponder
While I love the ele spear, the weaver dual-skills are a massively missed opportunity to give ele a truly ranged spec (in all circumstances, similar to virtuoso). I hope they will be reworked to enable spear weaver to be a competitive ranged DPS build.
It's regrettable that the most damaging build - spear tempest - requires one to be at close range most of the time, thus defeating the purpose of giving elementalists a 1200 range weapon.
The best part is, some weaver's dual spear skills are actually weaker than the single attunement ones. 😅
@@pwk50 You can always attune to the same element.... or swap to tempest.
It tickles me silly that ANet used haboob as a skill name. Yes, haboob is a real-life occurrence, but it's also hilarious to hear about it. You could just call it Sandstorm and be done with it, instead of naming it that way and have people die of laughter instead of the damage. Also, the one thing that Etching: Jökulhlaup lacks is regen. Volcano, Derecho and Haboob(all etchings) grant might, fury and stability respectively, but Jökulhlaup only has standard healing(and not that much either) instead of regen, which would be a great improvement.
@@pwk50 Yeah that's the result of multiple buffs to weapon skills and Anet forget the dual attune skills exist too... so they went from powerful to fillers.
The barely contained giggle as she said Haboob was a beautiful little moment! 🤣
I love warrior spear. Most fun I've had of the spears. Big damage, great utility/flow. It makes ranged warrior actually fun.
A very nice walkthrough Lara. I personally have always been ranged, but eng spear made me love playing melee :)
As a Necro main I've yet to find a compelling reason to replace GS with Spear in PvE (other than the to get the Wizard's Vault achievement). Maybe I just haven't found the right build or rhythm, but I'm 750 kills into the 1000 goal and I'm still feeling "meh" about Spear. It's not bad. I just haven't had a "Wow!" moment with it.
Yeah I’ve only been using spear to chip away at a few achievements but when I switch back to greatsword I can feel the damage difference and I just don’t see any reason to use spear over greatsword. That could always change but for right now spear just makes for something new to have fun wirh
In fractal 4, make a u turn to the right to the area with the 1 hit veterans if you want 1000 kills
I feel you on that. I have no reason to swap to spear over greatsword
I'm actually using it in combination with greatsword! I do agree, GS is hard to give up
I like the movement and I just find the gs auto a slog
I like that they finally incorporated the assassin combo system into gw2. Makes me think back to my days as a Wa/A dagger build in guild wars 1.
Elementalist spear feels like they hate staff so much they had to make a less interesting replacement. Compare staff to spear, and staff has 20 mostly unique skills(water and earth 2 are pretty similar, air 2 and fire 3 as well, but all the autos have different effects), spear is 5 autos, 10 ground target damage skills, 5 stand and spam here, 4 buff me and 1 movement skill. And spear's dual attacks really prove the designers just don't want to think about weaver. Also, the flow of spear doesn't fit into fresh air rotations at all.
indeed it's a less complicated weapon which makes more people try the class, it's fine and can always be replaced with other weapons, isn't variety convenient?
Engineer spear is amazing, it brought out so many new build possibilities for me in open world, ranging from Condition Scrapper to Celestial Hybrid Mech, its just very effective by itself.
The burst is incredible for a condi weapon, it can apply 25 stacks of vulnerability very fast and upkeep it the entire time, and it has good CC unlike pistols.
My first character ever was an engineer. It had become a mule for excess inventory, alt parking and birthday gifts. tried spear with the only specialist role I had acquired (mechanist) and it renewed my interest in the toon. I have been out farming hero points and now have Scrapper and half of Holosmith done. I have tried all the spears and I really did not care for any of the others. Even revenant, which has been my main, was no fun because it was so clear from the start that is was going to get nerfed from the start. I would much rather have seen ranger and necro get a condition or at least hybrid weapon useable on dps Druid and Scourge.
i agree with the mesmer spear. it's also my favorite of what we got
on Thief: weaving in spear skill 4 after a Finisher grants a 10% dmg increase for 10 secs. so basically you can go 222-4 23 1 for a long combo chain with maximum dmg on the stealth attack because skill 4 counts as lead attack. It's fun and breaks the thief mold of spamming 1 skill over and over again. I love that.
Ranger spear is jsut so bad. Im lealous of everyone else.
I'm actually having a lot of fun with it. At least in the new Push (pvp) mode. But I can see where u are coming from with it.
As a Necro Main, Greatsword is the highest pure DPS Power Weapon for Reaper, but Spear only losses about 3k DPS in exchange for the massive amount of lifesteal and healing it gains, as well as a gap closer (if you're willing to sacrifice your reset), a FAST interrupt stun, and Boon Ripping. I've been having a lot of fun with the Relic of Atrocity Spear Necro.
Aren't you actually reseting skill 2 WITH the gap closing? What sacrifice do you mean?
@@green_mark If you open with the gap closer, you can't use it to reset. If you use it to reset you can't use it as a gap closer. You can use it as a re-engage and reset if they peal away from you while your 2 is off cooldown, but you rarely get to use 4 for both a reset and gap closer except under niche situations.
As a guardian main, my one issue was that lots of classes got something they didnt have to fill a hole, like warrior with power ranged damage, or mesmer in melee, necro got some neat gap closer, many got some love, but the one and only thing guardian doesnt have, they didnt give it, and that is boon removal, as it is now, spear offers nothing other builds didnt already have
Nice video! I've tried most of the spears, but this was great for an overview of the one's I haven't tried :)
Volcano doesn't damage shirts and busses? Are there a lot of bus enemies in the game? And shirts? This brings new meaning to fashion wars! Thanks for the overview of spears.
As much as I like Ele spear I don’t understand as what spec it should be played with. Tempest is a close combat spec due to overloads, Cata too, weaver yeah good luck with that one xd so… it is a ranged weapon without actual coverage from any of specs. Unless it is meant to be played as core ele?
To me the Ele feels super weak and it is what most people said TBH, the range is super good but once they are close you are not really having a lot of advantage on anything. Plus other Ele weapons at least cleave in Mele or bounce, or have AoE... while the Spear nope... and I mean Auto Attacks obviously, the only one with Splash is Fire IIRC, the others are Single Target, and only the 2 usually pierces... once you used mainly 2 and 4 (whit those huge cooldowns) you are done, the 5 is your big hit and after that again with Auto Attacks or Rotation ASAP so your DPS doesn't become subpar.
Others in the other hand like Engi are ridiculously good lol, at the point they will nerf them I assume... but for now everyone feels at least fun
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I've been having so much fun with Necro spear/Relic of Atrocity that I haven't tried any others. Thanks for the review!
Spear Dragonhunter is pretty fun. I use it along side greatsword and have been having a good time with it.
I am curious about what's next too. Maybe a new race?
I dropped nearly 30g on the ascended Wizards Vault spear (by not trading the 1000 tokens for gold) and barely used it for 3 days on my Ranger before I went back to my regular LB/hammer build.
It doesn't have the single target destruction and crowd tagging that the LB has or the fun berserker-style gameplay of the hammer
Engineer spear has my favorite animations which was the main deciding factor for me 😅 ele was second and I'm going to use that next
The Mesmer spear is so good. It is so fun to play.
I wish each class held them differently for class identity.
As a mesmer/ele main, I've been eating really well with this expansion, and the balance preview today made me even more excited.
As ele main i am very glad that spear special the air style the lightings are incredbiles good desing at least visualy. But as ele main i also want to see if we can get trident, or shield or axe or a new talent tree like a better elemantels summons.
Thank you for saving me the time to decide which class I'd be using the spear with. I've only tried it on my Reaper but still prefer the fun dual-wielding swords so it's gonna be Mesmer/Elementalist for me.
After catching up on your vods playing through JW I decided to give ele spear a shot, and it's super fun! The synergy between skills & how the 5 skill builds is fun & feels more intentional that just spamming high damage skills. You can tell the devs put a lot of thought into how the skills would work & change with each other. I also gave warrior (my least favorite class) spear a spin and liked it so much I did a lil fashion wars and made a new warrior! I never thought that rifle/bow felt super great, so I love having a nice ranged weapon now (imo).
Coming from a ranger to mesmer to a fresh elementalist, I liked the spear on mesmer and elementalist the most. Mesmer had great dmg and effects, while ele just simplified the rotations for me, while having some really cool effects. Currently using it on the ele tempest and making it my new main for this expac :).
Alright, I'm late (real life, eh?) but enjoying Necro Spear on Power Reaper with GS. Oh, Shroud resets Perforate? Heh heh, FEEDING TIME!!
I Started with thief spear, tried mesmer now playing warrior I can relate to getting distracted
I brought the Guardian spear into WvW cosplaying as Shovel Knight and pummeled squads.
Nice! A new vids on spears! :o
Ranger spear could benefit from the 5 skill buffing your pet or Soulbeast merge.
Great video. Great energy. I really wanted to play spear with Mech. It is a lot of fun in most of open world. My only problem with it is that it yeets you inside the boss red circle instead of to the edge of it. If that red circle does huge damage, freezes you, etc., you don't have time to back out of it. Otherwise, it's simply annoying to have to back up every time you use spear 2. Don't know if you noticed this.
I appreciate this as I've forgotten what some of the gimmicks were (didn't have a lot of time to try out the beta) and the ranger one I'd agree. It's serviceable but not fantastic. The mesmer one looked so pretty in overworld that I slapped one on my guy, just rough cause I still really like dagger too, but skill 2 on the spear is so pretty D: Also will probably try the ele one out as I'm still looking for a weapon I gel well with on it. I want to like the class, but having 20 skills does make it rough at times to remember what they all do so I'm glad there seems to be some rhyme/reason to the spear one. Shame that we don't seem to be as gung ho as Fading Aurora XD
I just played spear willbender in wvw and after only an hour of dieing it clicked, now its my new fav over my cele scepter ele now gotta try DH, cele will be nerfed so this is good
Heal Alac Willbender with Spear is now meta! I love it
In my berzerker build, spear make my build pass from 2 powerful cc skill to 4 powerfull cc skill, and I have the possibility to change from axe close combat to spear range combat. I replaced completely the greatsword by the spear
I said it in your stream and ill say it again. Elementalist spears are so incredibly fun to pull off. I play weaver and its so fun having so many options. My new favorite playstyle is weaver spear
Makes me curious if they’ll try land tridents and harpoon guns in the future
Very helpful, despite playing the beta test I totally forgot alot of stuff.
I wish the power scaling for Engi spear would be a bit higher. I like it on Scrapper, but hammer is still better choice for pure DPS or QDPS.
Warrior spear is actually a ranged hammer replacer for spellbreaker, the cripple and daze are incredible.
A bit of a hot take, about the bar switching but as a former ESO player who has also played Guild wars two for a long time I think that just because you have the ability to use two weapons doesn’t mean that you should be required to use both like in eso you have oaken soul to enable one bar builds to be viable
Personally, I really like the new landspear because imo it is a very versatile and effective weapon and very entertaining with nice animations for all classes and elite specs. OK, I'm having a bit of trouble with the spear for the ranger because I can't do its "stealth" mode as well as I should.
Up until now, Herald and Renegade were my main classes for a long time and I still really enjoy playing them with the new spear either. The revenant landspear skill 3 ("Abyssal Blitz" + "Blitz Mines") is awesome and very effective imo.
With the revenant just use TWO spears to get the damage benefit for skill 5 by weapon swap when having three skill 5 stacks so you`re constantly fighting with a spear, you don`t need a different weapon set for this effect or benefit. The description for skill 5 only says that you trigger this effect when you swap weapons the moment you`ve reached three stacks; it doesn't say that you need a different weapon set for this and when I`m using two spears with my revenant it works as it should, problem solved and not existing.
But now the engineer as a mechanist with my two different builds has become my absolute favorite, along with the mech buddy at his side and the spear and short bow as weapons. These two weapons are absolutely equally useful and exciting for me and the short bow is not just a stopgap solution if close combat is too risky or impossible for special reason. My two builds are "Celestial" plus "Tempest" runes for open world adventures and "Viper" plus "Lich" runes when necessary, for example for certain group content when I dont`t want a higher toughness value.
Necro spear is plain useless in pve. And the shards, who is the mastermind at Janet that thought it was cool to have the souldshards around the character when most of the times during combar you won't be able to see your own character in the middle of all the gfx bloat?
Ele spear is so much fun, I've been playing solely spear since I got mine.
For the revenant spear u can go for mace/axe on celestial open world renegade it's really good, the rotation is 525345 spear then swap and 23452 mace/axe and repeat, it's really good
Not only does it not hit some bosses, the initial explosion of the volcano appearing doesn't do any dmg, in my opinion it really should, it absolutely looks like it would do dmg.. instead only those little balls? Pls fix..
Great video! The spear spell breaker is broken right now in pvp, needs to be nerfed. In the latest 3v3 tournament both teams that made it to the finals each had 2 spear spell breakers!
ngl the revenant spear got the nerf it deserved but it such a fun weapon as someone who plays pretty casual but still raids(cm) and fractals cms it was the first time after the nerf i went and tried different combination with the spear to see what could do better, i love it alot and hopefully it doesnt get nerfed again
Before spear, two of the biggest complaints from eles were overly complicated mechanics and a lack of a viable ranged weapon.
With spears, two of the biggest complaints from eles are overly simplistic mechanics and lack of melee range -_-
As an Ele main since GW1, all I want to do is SURVIVE, and look cool while doing it.
Engi spear is easy... which makes it very nice when you don't want to do all the Engineer things. And it seems to work very well for Power Scrappers.
Ele spear is very good, but way too flashy. Giant etchings make it hard to see enemy AOE fields & generally distract you from what is going on. I wonder if I'm contributing to other players' deaths due to my etchings.
And Mesmer spear is definitely good. Still trying to find the setup that I like best for a power Chrono, but it just works.
I really like Thief spear as well. The ability to flip between Power (button 3) and Condi (button 2) on one weapon is nice.
As an Engi main that's actually something that annoys me. Since EoD, every new addition to the engi class has apparently been targeted toward players that don't want to play Engi. Mechanist was created to enable kitless gameplay, which is a good idea, but it removes the toolbelt skills, essentially making the kits almost the only core skills worth taking. The shortbow was also very poorly designed, with 4 ranged ground targeted skills that you must put at your feet to get any benefit. As Laranity says, the spear feels very boring compared to most other professions' spears, and the main gimmick is currently unreliable due to a bug. The "lighting weapon" theme is also a repeat of the scrapper hammer, which was better executed in every aspect. It just feels like Anet is just completely out of ideas on what to do with Engi.
As a warrior main i hope they add 2 handed axe one day.
No ARENANET it’s time for a UI overhaul, say like WOW’s moveable UI, cough cough
Love your videos
The winners for me were Rev, War, Necro, Thief.
Been having a lot of fun with spear in pvp on guardian.
i don't know for the other class but for ranger sure you don't have a good build to feel his power. Very good zerk build with two mace switch.
Just tried "try hard" rotation on necro spear since I was pretty casually enjoying JW since its released and I agree that the window between flipped 4 and 2 is really tight and even tighter if you are playing without quickness or/and alac. I hope they buff the duration on necro spear 4 second skill a bit.
It's super satisfying when you get it right, but it feels veeery bad when you don't hahaha
For Engineer, 5 should be an instant teleport/warp type move, animation is way too long. 4..... 4 looks amazing, but needs a bigger area of effect, and again instant to 1/4 second animation or at least give evade for 1 second during the cast. 3 is nice, just needs a bigger aoe, and make it a flip skill, so you can throw the spear whenever you want. 2 is great, just the leap finisher needs to just count in general. Right now it doesnt count as a leap finisher UNLESS you have/connect with your target.... Lastly, the auto attack chain is again, too slow.
Lastly, a hope for Engi in general. Now that we have shortbow/spear/pistol mh & oh/mace/shield/sword/hammer/rifle, we deserve weapon swap in combat. Just make it so if you have a kit in any heal/elite/3 utility slot you lose in-combat weapon swap. Anet wants Engis to use more stuff outside of kits, the buff to gadgets didn't change much. Give me weapon swap in combat, rifle hammer scrapper hell yah, spear/pistol&shield mech or holo, hell yeah.
Thank you for the video. My Mesmer is a virtuoso build. Does the spear help with generating blades? Or is the spear meant for a different build?
Unluckiest timing bc of the patch xD
With my spear, I draw a circle of attention around this video
AS an ele main i share the sentiment ideawise, but the execution is bad.
The visual clutter is intense (especially for spell 5 for doing nothing actually but being a "stand here" boundary, the second skill is the important part right?), the tuning is just wack (just compare loads of the 2 and 4 skills on damage/uitlity and cooldown times) and many of the skills in actually feel more clunky than flowing together (especially with the 5 skill at times).
Also: compared to other weapons it feels very weak. I forced myself to play spear first week, then switched to my old set and recently tried other spears (e.g. necro) and was blown away by the amount of their damage.
PS: Tbf a lot of this can just be tweaked by adjusting numbers (for the love of god anet, please look at some of the clunky feeling cast times)
And yea buffbar hate!!! We needed the rework 2020 anet xD
I use a "Power Spellbonker" build in open world, centered on buffing CC skills and bursts (AKA "bonks"). Spear fit in very nicely since, like Hammer, it has two CCs and its burst is also a CC.
Also Mesmer Spear is. So. Satisfying. The spear combo flows very nicely and naturally, and generates so many clones to boot.
You are the Hero we need and deserve. Ty for the Spear test!
what weapons are left to make? polearms and unarmed? Or do you think new variations of the old ones?
My only issue with the thief spear, is that its animations take way too long for the damage they put out. Like there's a near 2 second wind up on some of the attacks, when most of the thief weapons are able to put out their attacks much faster and without quickness.
For example the auto attacks. The auto attack has dagger's damage. But the sluggishness of the Sword auto.
I don't like spears because of these big circle animations, it's just another visual clutter, it makes the game look so cheap compared to other games.
I always say they should revamp old weapons like the Worrier greatsword, but every time I see them adding new weapons with such visual clutter animations, I'm afraid they'll ruin the old things.
Ranger spear and thief for that matter were done dirty… every mob enemy and their mother spam "reveal" killing my stealth before I can do the stealth enhanced move. :/
yeah im currently not fond of ranger spear.. got bored of it within an hour lol.
Hi gang! Quick question. I have been playing the base game (Free) and really dig it. I plan on waiting for a sale for the early expansion bundles (they go on sale often enough with massive savings). In the meantime, what new DLC does anyone recommend I grab? Want to take advantage of the benefits of owning one. Should I start with Secrets of the Obscure?
checking spears in pve is a bad way to test since even a stick with good enough number works in pve. Well not like you put effort in necromancer one anyway. Just worried anet only listens to streamers and start thinking the necro spear is good.
I literally talk in the video about how I personally enjoy the necro spear, but I understand it might not be everyone's cup of tea :c
@@LaranityDid u try hitting moving things with spear5 and spear3. Or maybe if enemy a moved a little bit while doing perforate i.e spear#2 and it tracks so slow that it doesnt hit anything.
Theres massive range and animations problems with the necromancer spear which you wont get if you just do golem or open world testing of things where you are hitting static things while being inside their hitbox all the time.
Anyway, these issues are not preference issues. These are valid qol issues that make the weapon objectively bad.
Ans i just listed the most obvious issues not in depth ones how it desperately required similar autoattack system like other classes with ranged and melee component because right now you stare into the abyss for 18seconds if enemy dodges your massively telegraphed spear 4.
And when I see comparatively bigger streamer give feedback as it just might not be everyones cup of tea which implies "its solid but depends on preference" its just disappointing that this is the feedback they are giving.
On the other hand, if you play just for cosmetic value then its alright i guess.
underwater weapon review when?
What about the other 27 spears in the game?
Next weapon at least for engis torch pls I wanna be able to wield the welder skin.
Is it possible for some kind of mod that speeds up the kodan talking animations? I seem to spend most of my time waiting for them to finish their sentences...
Anyone knows if they fixed the Ele Spear bug where you cannot hit some bosses? :(
Ranger spear needs work
I only tried it with necromancer/reaper and the attacks felt very weak except skill 5 I do like the large ring around your character it makes that damages everything and gives u a crap ton of might for each enemy it hits. Also attack 4 on necro let’s u one target at range then do attack 4 to teleport to that target. Pretty cool but damage isn’t impressive with spear and there is just no reason to use it over my greatsword. However any new weapon and skills we get I am happy with and it adds more to the game. Also the plushies for our home is one of the best things they have added and I’m definitely going to have fun with it. I’m really enjoying homestead and I hope the content goes far and beyond so we can make a beautiful little homestead
the homestead plushies are so good!!
I have no idea, or understand of that Mini game thing . . .
Theyre all gimmick weapons, now they should have given some class harpoon, like Ele and mesmer hell even guardian.
Engi Spear is unusable in certain fractals atm because spear 2 wont hit and the most of the dps comes from it
Ooo, I havent really tried it in fractals yet
@@Laranity Hella annoying, no wonder some of the mechanist I played with was doing 5k dps
for every class except for warrior tbh
How easy is it to get these spears for a completely new player? Looks cool!
You just gotta play the new expansion's story a little bit! You can jump ahead if you want, but if you care about story it's probably better to play the other expansions first
@@Laranity thanks!
Easy to get. I would suggest after getting in on your main character to start a new character on the slot you get from the expansion. Try a class that interests you equipping a level one spear from the start. You can do as often as you need to help decide which class works best for you. After I had a feel whether I liked it, I just deleted, rinsed and repeated. Make sure to do the first part of the character story to get a freebee Black Lion key. I did that for guardian, ranger, necro, warrior and engineer in that order. Be warned that the spear--even if you like it--does not work really well on some of the advanced specializations. I only use it now on renegade and mechanist.
Love the interpretation of ranger it’s trash and it’s have to be said
LoD reference? 🤔🤔🤔
THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE, WVW ANYWAY
BLEH
so i wondered if people were clever/moral enough to not buy the shit Anet pulls. almost the same price as a full expansion. Im talking about the digital pixel plush thingies for the homestead, another thing to monetize. actively destroying the gaming landscape, thank you
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Ranger-spear is hot garbage, let's be honest.
Other than that, man, they gave really good options for everyone to play with them in different contents of the game.
Good or not, is secondary to me. Anet needs to revise that stance. That spear stance makes me want to unplug my eyes and bleach them.
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Boaring old graphics. Release GW3 asap!
Not really a fan of mesmer spear tbh. It lacks the signature QoL and utility, doesn't synergise too well with the rest of the profession (why are none of its skills tagged as Blade?!?) and it puts 2 forced movement abilities into a positioning-sensitive dps rotation. And you still have to hit an enemy to get Clarity, which means you get screwed over by all the random blinds/boon corrupts in the newer content (and the awfully slow update time of the stop/go bounty effect, seriously, can't we finally shelve those already?)
Basically half the time it feels like I'm playing _against_ a mesmer, having to pay close attention and jump through extra hoops just so my skills function.
Power virtuoso spear does great damage.
@@ianashmore9910 Sure, but is it interesting to play? Bladesongs being 1200 range doesn't really matter on a melee weapon with a bunch of gap closers, and if anything they can mess up your positioning for piercing. Where's the payoff? Just "number big unga bunga"? Would buffing sword or axe to deal the same dps produce more enjoyable gameplay? (I don't think it would a lot of the time and axe has the same forced displacement issue, but I'm not sure spear is ahead either once you factor out the raw numbers)
@@Photoloss
Honestly, I prefer power spear mirage. It's not as much damage potential, but it's more fun.
@@ianashmore9910 That's what I'm testing right now. Great overall QoL for low-intensity content but falls apart quickly when enemies spam CC or blinds. The alacrity-on-dodge relic helps a lot in solo play.
Edit: oh and as with all open world mirage builds just put a sigil of stamina in every weapon set you intend to wield for longer than 10s at a time. Free infinite dodges as long as any trash mobs are around.
are there 1 spear for every class or can you choose which spear you want? noone of these youtubers have answeared this question. and this youtuber might be the worst
Well the question is confusing each class can use spears and each class has their own spear moveset
Have you ever played GW2? This isn't exactly meant to be a beginners guide.
Each class has their own move sets for each weapon they can use in game
So every class that can use swords, uses them differently
That's the case here, each class can use a spear, but they all have different abilities for them
The video has time stamps for how each class uses them. Im confused as to how you got the notion that a class could just choose what moveset they wanted