Ishida Sui Said Tokyo Ghoul Wasn't a Success in a Interview Today
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2023
- Its been years since Tokyo Ghoul re came to an end. I still think about the series to this day and how much emotion I have for it. Earlier today a interview came out about Ishida Sui the Author of TG saying it wasn't a success aka it was a failure in his eyes.
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We always knew he was critical of himself, but still it hurts to see his feelings towards it
It's tough making it out there. Ishida is very meticulous and a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to writing stories. Still, I like how his thought process towards creating stories is explored is human. We all have doubts about accomplishing our own individual goals and he's not afraid to express them
we’re always our own toughest critic but still, if only he knew how impactful his “failure” was
I understand how he feels. As a writer I am a perfectionist who judges my own work very harshly, so much so I keep rewriting my work because I feel the quality has become outstripped by my ability. But I wish Ishida could appreciate Tokyo Ghoul, it's not only amazing, it not only helped me out of a dark place, but it inspired me to be serious about my writing. I would not be where I am without Tokyo Ghoul/
TG last arc was bad and the ending was a rushed one , thats the truth
Nah
If possible, Tokyo Ghoul deserves a brotherhood treatment
I believe it should get a remake because season 2 of tokyo ghoul did not follow the Manga
God PLEASE. We need to put up a fundraiser, to show pierott that we want a remake.
@@imsentinelprime9279 Yeah.
@@imsentinelprime9279 Pierrot doesn't own the rights to the IP. They are the last company you should try to "appeal" to.
@@SylviaBlessingseason 1 was also pretty bad, so much detail was cut.
I actually respect that in a way. Shows that the money or the fame isn't what's important to him, it's the art. Ishida has that Rohan energy.
Imagine writing a story for 7 years and hoping to create a certain type of story in the beginning and writing yourself into a corner and still wanting to write a good story.
He might have lost sight of his original story/art halfway through. I’d imagine the whole thing would leave a bad taste in my mouth if it wasn’t about the money but the story.
I mean it’s his opinion and everything, but I think objectively, it was a **good** manga. It sold well, had interesting characters, had a cool power system, great fights, interesting twists, and a diverse cast of interesting, developed characters (something not everyone can do). He wrote wonderfully through pretty much all the manga until near the end, but it was admittedly due to burnout. Tokyo Ghoul was probably popular with a large audience, like Attack on Titan, since it had great action, great psychology, and just an overall good story.
Tokyo Ghoul was no where near as popular as AOT and I specifically blame the anime for that because they fumbled the bag hard with Tokyo Ghoul Re.
I wish there was more series like tokyo ghoul. With a tragic mc who has his normal life taken away and becomes a badass. I don't care if my taste are edgy, I WANT MORE STUFF LIKE THIS. AND A REMAKE OF THE TOKYO GHOUL ANIME.
@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 no tokyo ghoul is pretty gosh darn close.
@Mince Crafter nah solo leveling doesn't fit the bill of what I'm looking for AT ALL.
His opinion and his manga. If he says it's bad, consider it a fact
Tokyo Ghoul means so much to me. To see Ishida say that it wasn’t a success hurts, but I can’t say that it was unexpected. It made me think back when TG Root A was still airing, to which the studio threw out Ishida’s drafts for the season and wrote out a messy script of their own. Ishida really wants a lot of freedom when it came to his creative process, and I’m not sure if that event might have affected him. I also enjoyed the ending to the manga, but it’s kinda sad to see most of the audience approach it differently.
Even talking about it, now, makes me hope for TG to be given the Brotherhood treatment.
Brotherhood treatment?
@@Zokimnireferring to the fullmetal alchemist brotherhood anime which is the 2nd anime adaption of the title. Basically wanting a new anime adaption which is more faithful to the manga.
Damn I love Tokyo Ghoul and Re It will always be a success for me.
I liked Toyko Ghoul. I did feel like the latter half of RE felt like it was going both everywhere and nowhere for a while. But I can also understand the conflict of wanting to reach a natural conclusion for both yourself and the people reading and also having done the series for years and having a sense of burnout in your mind that makes you want to just reach the finish line.
The RE anime was an atrocity.
@@Cabolt44 I think they’re talking about the manga.
@@Cabolt44 Both the first series and Re were war crimes. Both need a full on and completely faithful remake. Also, we dont talk about Route A. That was straight up offensive.
I think that Tokyo Ghoul is memorable in some form. If not for that series, we wouldn't even be aware of Sui Ishida as a manga author and illustrator
This is actually wild cause the anime alone was wildly successful to the point where video games and merch was widely available through the world. I love the manga so much so it’s sad to see that he genuinely feels this way
Without Tokyo ghoul I never would’ve discovered chibi!
thats crazy Tokyo ghoul's probably my favorite manga ever that man made a masterclass story.
Same. That first series was perfection to me and I feel so attached to it because of where I was in life when I found it around 2014. I think I read that first part of the series like 15-20 times over a 3 year period. its so sad that he personally doesnt see Tokyo Ghoul as successful.
TG still is my favorite manga of all time, and I LOVED it to death. I remember sobbing in my bed when I finished the last chapter after it came out and I'll never forget the years I spent reading it AND how I found you
To see Ishida feel BOUND to it all is disappointing but seeing his love for Togashi and how Choujin X is right now, I'm not surprised that Ishida really likes freedom of power scaling, types, and people so it's not TOTALLY incoherrent
favorite manga fosho, one of the first mangas I picked up and followed through to the end
hes too humble tokyo ghoul my favorite so im baised
Is the Manga any better than the adaptation !?
@KRyTOS definitely
@@krytos6460 yes
Chibi you need to get back on Choujin X, the manga is so good! It's filled the Tokyo Ghoul-shaped hole in my heart to the point I don't really mind Ishida's thoughts on my favorite manga. I know towards the end of RE he did not have a good experience working on it
Tokyo Ghoul is still one of my favorite manga series.
It's sadly common for artists to look at their own creations and think they haven't created something "good", especially as they continue to develop their craft.
It was such a success for me that I have all the volumes, novels, Artbook , Funko etc
Ken kaneki is still one of my favorite characters in fiction. While the story might not have been as good as the second half, the protagonist remained consistent and even got better
After this interview I like Ishida even more and his way of approaching the medium is really interesting. As long as he keeps at it like that for ChoujinX he won’t repeat the mistakes of TG
This man was an assitant for KINGDOM!! That'a amazing, I had no idea. And was inspired by Togashi and the Miura Sensei. The best inspiration onr could have. Based
He wouldn't be feeling this way if pierrot didn't f*ck up the anime adaptation.
The anime didn't turn bad because of Pierrot. It became as it was because of a producer actively changing the story
Tokyo ghoul may not have been perfect, but it's story was great and the art was so reflective of Sui Ishidas thoughts and vision for the project.
Crazy how I was just thinking about TG and how I missed your old videos, TG is still alive!
Best part of reading Tokyo ghoul and re every week was watching chibi video analysis and review
The full collection on my shelf doesn't convince me that it wasn't successful, it was more than that. Tokyo Ghoul is the manga, it's the sweat and tears of the author over it, it's the cultural semnificance and the international recognition it gathered. Ishida can be hard on himself, but he is also one of my favorite mangaka of all time and responsible for shaping my late teens into the person I am today.
absolutely
Ain't no way he said that 😭 at this point I don't think creator's opinion about there manga should matter . Tokyo Ghoul manga was peak, its only the anime that flopped
ig it matters most, his opinion decides THIS to happen instead of THAT.
don't you recall what happened to the fans when Kaneki married Touka ?
Chibi, I remember all those days of when the chapters of Tokyo Ghoul and the hours of analysis and reactions you had. Tokyo Ghoul with how it was and how it ended. I saw a very complex series with a bunch of complicated characters and the way it ended was something I was glad about because from the way Ishida wrote the story, I always felt the bad was going to happen.
Honestly I'm just happy that he brought it up again
I enjoyed Tokyo Ghoul so I’m surprised that the author didn’t think it was a success.
Mental bro fist
For adaptation anime, yes. For another side such as Manga and Merch, its a huge success after all.
I wish there were more series similar to tokyo ghoul. For a while I have been trying to find series that can scratch that tokyo ghoul itch. But I can't find anything.
"Wasn't a success"?! BRO EVERYONE AND THIER MOMMAS STILL TALKING ABOUT IT!
I loved the ride of Tokyo ghoul and Re: the mangas, they were both one of the best series of all manga I have read and believe both deserve all the praise they got and haven't, now having said that the Anime had its problems and are responsible for some of the hype dying down they started strong with season 1 which followed most of the manga but change the ending a tad but it worked and told the same story but season 2 was straight disrespectful to the original manga with cutting content fans wanted to see and telling a different story that went nowhere and by the time season 3 and 4 came out to try and save face and tell the original story the production and animation fell off losing more fans that's how I felt about it.
eyyy, glad you saw the article, Chibi! I was hoping you would, considering I did link it to you, but I know how hectic your mentions can get.
I love Ishida's work I would love to get my own Choujin X manga signed by him one day, Tokyo Ghoul really related to me at one point in my life and I am glad he's doing his own thing and working at his own pace it was a really interesting interview
Hope you been great man, you taugh so much about anime
Watched you around 2013. Attack on titan final season going to be my final anime. I can barely watch anime now sadly. So thank you chibi
He mentioned Miura and himself as inspirations to become a mangaka. What a chad.
I think he was especially disappointed with the anime.
Tokyo ghoul deserves brotherhood treatment.
Tokyo Ghoul is my favorite manga of all time, the artistic vision of Sui Ishida blew my mind, his way of drawing/painting has inspired me so much. I know he was always critical about himself during TG and thats fair, he's an artist. we are all so hard on ourselves. Tg means a lot to me for sure.
While TG had some issues, it was still an enjoyable experience. I’ve seen shows and series that had a promising start only to the later on either go up and down constantly or just nosedive for the most part. This series may not be the absolute best, but it’s still very good from beginning to end which is very rare. Though I will say Choujin X looks to be a lot better since Ishida has a lot more time and freedom
Tokyo ghoul was a good series manga wise imo and Tokyo ghoul re . Wild ride yee and very enjoyable for me. But sometimes the writer doesn't always see it the same way...
Tokyo Ghoul was a great seinen definitely in my top 10 manga and im sure many people love it so i hope Ishida knows that. Not sure how i feel about Choujin X just yet, but we'll have to wait and see
The tokyo ghoul anime got me into reading the Manga and also introducing me to TKs music the op is still remember to this day but I do agree that about halfway into Re it did go all over the place but it is still a great Manga thanks for the video chibi
Tokyo ghoul is one of my first seinen and has a special place in my heart. So sad to hear his opinion 😢
My gosh, you haven’t talked about Tokyo Ghoul in years
Great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!!
Damn it’s sad hearing that he thinks that way.
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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan when are you gonna start reviewing and analyzing Choujin X? I need those TG level analyses again.
I loved it
If the Tokyo Ghoul anime was handled correctly in this Era of anime.. smh..
To some people feel that TG was a mediocre story, but the fans geel that the journey to the ending was very satisfying to me.
I should one day get back into Choujin X. Heard it's been getting pretty good lately
its fire
One of the best manga's of all time
I fell in love with sui ishidas art and conceps
Yeah, something can be a success, but also leave you not feeling satisfied at the same time. I think I can really understand what the author is getting at.
Tokyo Ghoul is my favorite manga of all time. No other manga has even come close. This saddens me.
His series making him sing the opening to the anime.
Have a great day bro
Sui is breaking my heart when he speaks about Tokyo Ghoul like this 😢 it’s my favorite manga of all time.
kinda ruined my day
I mean people know he rushed it and was having issues with making it and it's true bc he said he wanted to go deeper but didn't have enough resource or time lol yes uuuf and it's crazy bc this is all the mangakas I bet when it comes to the deeper level bc they are like that lol and as Miura said he doesn't want Berserk to have a bitter ending it's so cute lol bc in reality it wasn't bitter but it was sad yet happy kinda like Tokyo Ghoul expect Tokyo Ghoul is confirmed bitter sweet and sad lol uuuf
I saw the title of this video and went WHAT?
I haven't finished watching the video so I don't know if you addressed this, (I apologize if you did) but are you ever going to review or make a vid on choujin x again?
The manga is one of my favorites. I really enjoyed the one best themes of the entire series which is finding meaning in life and no commiting suicide even when life goes to shit. I love the style and although people don't like the ending I think the ending is completely and to the point but not perfect. I really enjoyed it. Not everyone will share the same opinion and that is ok.
Tokyo Ghoul has such a special place in my heart, although not perfect i love it so much. I've read and watched it well over 10 times.
I will read his new series as well because it sounds interesting
Tokyo ghoul and Choujin x have been good reads
If it gets the well deserved anime remake it'll be god tier
Tokyo Ghoul needs an anime remake because they did Ishida's work dirty
If that is what the author thinks, then I will follow that. But I think that if he wanted to end the manga happily(which is also how I hoped things would end for Kaneki and co.), then it doesn’t matter if most of the fans wanted it to end in a tragedy.
Still one of my most favorite manga ever. The anime though, I can see it kinda ruined the whole series for some people.
Also enjoying Choujin X rn.
He said it wasnt a successful?? Dude! He shouldnt be so hard on himself, it was so fucking good. He wrote great characters and an enjoyable world.
I'll always remember the first series of Tokyo Ghoul, I found it at the worst time of my life back in my early 20s. I identified so much with Kaneki and how he struggled mentally throughout(accept I didnt have powers or wanted to eat people lol). Even part of the way through Re even.
yeah the transition to Haise Sasaki was one of the best and the most I can relate too, I'm just sad to know about Ishida's opinion.
@@king_alonne3707 Glad I'm not the only one who related to the many identities of Kaneki. He was such a well written and traumatized character. Though for me, it was human and white hair Kaneki that I related too. And a slight bit of Black Reaper Kaneki. But really just his first 2 identities.
I wonder what he would still think about Tokyo Ghoul if he knew how much Kaneki and his story mean to some people. I know he eventually hated it, but I wonder if he would change his mind if he knew how much that story connected with people.
Till this day I hope we get a reboot
Man i love Tokyo ghoul, but I definitely agree about the latter half of Tg :re story was horribly rushed... It felt like Sui Ishida just wanted the story to end soon...
To this day, I'm still confused on if Eto survived at the end or not?(Manga ver)
I like the way Chibi says success. It's so sussy.
TG’s ending beats the hell out of Attack On Titan’s…
When it comes to success in this type of works, there are 2 types of successes, the financial success and the critical success, and even tough TG sold well in the eyes of Ishida it wasn't well received, so in his opinion the series is a "failure".
Hope he can find inner peace about it and find something he legitimately likes to write and thinks of it as a success
The first half of Tokyo Ghoul:re was AMAZING. Simply some of the best story I have ever seen.
That being said, if he was ever to return to TG... (I know he wont) but a redo of the second half of TG:re would be amazing.
The anime REALLY betrayed him.
Tokyo ghoul… what a throw back
I’m not surprised that he says stuff like this
Even at the end of volume 16 he was talking about how stressful writing and drawing each chapter was and how it even affected him physically and mentally
It’s also becoming even more clear as to why he wanted the anime to deviate from the manga after the first season
(Well even in that case Marvelous still didn’t allow him to create the story he wanted since they basically cut a fuck ton of the stuff him and the director had come up with)
TG manga is the definition of perfection for me. TG manga unlike the anime is so underapreciated I personally recommend it.
It's a good author advice to write for yourself, but it can be hard in such a commercial world.
I agree, it started fire and went left quick gang; CHiA!
I enjoyed TG as a manga series so kinda sucks to see him say this but at least he's keeping true to himself with how he feels
I love tokyo ghoul it was one of the first series i became obsessed with. It means so much to me to this day. Part 1 isolated from part 2 was so good its amongst my favorite fictional media. But part 2 to me personally was so shaky and felt inconsistent I didnt like the payoff and the balancing of the larger cast characters from part 1 got pushed aside and I didnt grow connected to all the characters it felt like part 2 was trying to get me to care about. It has some good highs and many meh moments. But the good highs imo only reached part 1 but never surpassed part 1 and alongside all the shaky moments too, part 2 just falls below. Also to me personally the ending was just ok. And I will say furata felt like a weak final antagonist. Too much trolling not enough actual character. And his threats always felt underwhelming even though there were stakes when reading. Also dont get me started on how they concluded the doctor who started it all. I agree with him offing himself at the end but his motivation and threat level felt disappointing too. So tokyo ghoul is good overall but it had some flaws that really bothered me.
Also the fighting and power system got out of control in re. I didnt like how the combat evolved. It felt so dangerous and technical part 1. And each fight and blow felt so real and tense. it became just who has the flashier kagura and higher levels of ghoul reading (i forgot the term) the fight panelling and choreo was all flashyness and barely any actual structure behind each blow
Also kaneki even though technically he was stronger in part 2, has really satisfying fights part 1 for how weak he was but part 2 he feels so weak. And he was supposed to be amongst the strongest but it never felt like that. He got so many satisfying victories part 1 but his few victories in part 2 always felt cheap to me. (Eto and the white haired op dude wanted him to win and then whether he was holding back because of how much he likes juuzou he didnt win too. What meaningful fights did he actually win part 2. Furata felt underwhelming and then rize was just a mindless zombie at the end)
Alsl throughout part 1 i loved his struggle with his human and ghoul side and it took a toll on him with how he desended into insanity. But part 2 just brushes aside that problem with his amnesia that hes given and mostly throws away all that conflict under the rug. It still emerges when hes regaining his memory but i wouldve loved him confronting it head on. finding it from the himself in part 1 like he was at the end of part 1 instead of him being reset in part 2. and it just being resolved naturally as he gets his memories back. The final arc of part 1 was so good and cool then it threw it all away part 2. My preference for what i wish happened: White hair dude shouldve let him barely get away after beating him up not leaving him on the brink of death to capture him
I thought for the ending for the manga was good and it was better than the anime because in the anime they skip a lot of things from the manga so the ending of the manga was good and same goes for Akame ga kill because the manga was better than the anime I still want that series to get a remake and I wouldn't mind if the studio remake season 2 and 3 because they did skip so many things from the manga
im just happy tg:re ending wasnt like aot 139
The Tokyo ghoul manga is amazing. The anime however didn’t do the series justice. Had Tokyo ghoul recieved a better anime adaptation it would be even more popular and successful
banger songs and an iconic mask is all that came out of the botched adaption
I watched Tokyo Ghoul season 1 a while ago and thought it was so mediocre.
If it weren't for Kaneki's edgy style and a banger OP I don't think Tokyo Ghoul would've had the success it did
"What's 1,000 minus seven?"
I think it's better if he don't have a strict schedule for writing his new series. Tokyo Ghoul started amazing, but went downhill, same with Re and maybe because the release schedule was to much for him. The first season of the anime was amazing, the chapters the second season would cover was where the story went downhill, so I understand why they decided change it in anime, but it's just became worse.
It really needs a Brotherhood treatment
hey its the oahi no ko guy
How would he have rewritten it then?
Why ?
Tokyo Ghoul is a good horror series for days to come that is still worth watching.
Reading*
Ghouls can't be friends with humans? No they HAVE to mingle with humans and pretend to be normal to live. It was like they have to put up a facade to live.
8/10 anime imo
It was hoed by the animation studio but overall a peak series
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Sad day for anime fans the good but manga better fight me af
NGL, i followed Tokyo Ghoul until the half of the second manga series. Now take what i may say for it's worth, i enjoy Choujin X more.
#imeanilikehisperspective
He was a bit salty about that pressure comment xd
I watch a lot of anime and read a decent amount of manga I’ll just say the only manga I own is Tokyo ghoul every single volume masterpiece the anime ya not at all manga he’s tripping
Sad to see him feel this way about TG, i legitimately think it was a good manga but anime was a letdown of his source material