The Story of RuneScape's Infamous DDoSer
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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3 years ago, a mysterious ddoser plagued RuneScape’s high-risk pkers. Players dubbed him the Greek God of routers. This is the story of Cheek Alerb: what happened, how players uncovered it and ultimately who was behind it.
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The game servers just got DDosed... I was in world 302... As soon as i loged in youtube i saw your video.. So I guess someone is DDosing servers after they saw your video
Edit: i was the only one who got DDosed.. My runelite is dead right now and the regular client is working fine... I was talking to like 30 people on ardy bank that there is a heavy lag before i got disconnected.. Something fishy is happening
Why no gnome child?
I am perplexed by the lack of gnome children on your store sir.
Abyss arrow is a well known ddosser back in the ventrillo and teamspeak days, just a little information. If he is being targeted by a ddosser it's his own fault. People feared Joining abyss arr0ws teamspeak/ventrillo servers because he was known for selling ips and ddosing people himself .
just ordered a kbd the other day, my ags is hard
They're too pricy for my taste. Neat though.
I don't think the people who are in positions of power at Jagex genuinely care at all about us players. The fact that PLAYERS had to gather evidence is ridiculous.
If you want jagex to start paying attention to their player base concerns, youll need to hit them where it hurts. Mass membership cancellation will do it in one month or even less.
By continuously buying membership on a monthly bases you're essentially telling them that they are doing great.
@@shinrapresident7010 Care to elaborate on that ? With evidence, genuinely interested.
@@shinrapresident7010 Thank you for looking into it. I knew this already but I know it's not common knowledge yet.
ShinRaPresident did you know in the USA you actually don’t own land either. I figured that out. Shits fucked. If they wanna build a road thru your property they can.
@@shinrapresident7010 read all that, yeah seems crazy
This is the longest ExpressVPN ad I’ve ever seen
😂👌
:thinking:
i am sorry to disappoint you, but VPN in these instances wont help.
So what is DDOS - Distributed denial of service, essentially is that you are getting more requests then hardware can give, lot of different types of how it can be done. Lets say for example TCP Handshake(in order to establish connection there is process called handshake that go client to server, server respond to client, Client confirms to server and establish connection) DDOS - is when only only 2 first phases established, and never actually client confirms connection. basically flooding router with requests.
So in short term it would be flooding device with requests of the data, that device just chugs, we are talking about thousands of requests per second.
when we have basic principles out of the way, so reason why VPN wont help.
when you log in game your connection is secured and server know your public IP that have connected, when VPN server will be DDOS there could be 2 things either it disconnects on client end. or it would take some time to disconnect, because as far as your computer know it is routing all traffic thro VPN server, and it will take some time to understand that is down.
Even if it disconnect quickly your public IP is changed, as far as Jagex server know, you are different client that try to connect to game, meaning your old character are still in combat and logged on, meaning you cant create new connection. You will get message about already connected.
I work in IT, i support clients, and in order to connect there systems (Domain controler, file servers, firewalls) i have to use VPNs, and i connect to VPNs lot of times per day, and that is problem what i sometimes get.
@@didzisfreiss6088 Nobody else voiced their appreciation (I can only assume that what you said is correct) so I'll definitely go ahead and do it. Thanks for the information of how it works. I never new what DDOS even stood for, for some reason I never thought to google it. So thanks for that decent explanation!
@@jonnywilson9117 exactly
Funny to think that Cheeky Alerb/Ex-Mod Jed will see this video.
Funny that he and Jed should be in prison right now.
Deadass
@@trade7701 no ones going to prison for ddosing you on RuneScape lmao
@@Makendu you must have missed the guy who went to prison for threats on RuneScape..
@@Makendu Jed is leaking ip addresses you simpleton fuck lmao.
Jagex consistently surprises me with a lush history of incompetence.
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Hey brother, just wanted to let you know you have an entire audience that hasn't touched RS since they were kids that love your vids. The lore man, it's something I'm so envious that my current main game doesn't have - top knotch shit homie 10/10 please keep it up.
Thank you ! :)
Honestly it seems pretty likely Cheeky Alerb was Jed. Being able to feed IP addresses real time to another player just seems completely unlikely, and almost assuredly something that would get found out quickly- whereas Jed himself, if he was the one doing it, would probably be able to shift the blame from himself for at least a little while.
Cheeky Alerb WAS Jed. It's already been confirmed multiple sources have documented that
RuneScape is something else man I swear 😂
More people should get acquainted with the game just for the drama this game brings.
I just saw a video of a guy that for 8 years spent 14 hours at castle wars sabotaging matches. Wtf. 😅
@@SuperVladamere that’s the type of drama we need 😂😂
My internet started to buffer watching this so the guy is still watching
Make a Cheeky Alerb figure ill buy that shit
Making people lose hundreds of $$ in money explains him hiding lol, if he made me lose that kind of money I’d make him do rooftop agility irl
His numbers were way off, it's much higher than $100's. Try $1000's or more.
hahahahhahaahahha
Candy money he stole from greasy rs players they wont do shit
im weakkkk rooftop agility irl
@@MaLordWotan Barely, if we're being realistic.. But yeah.
Would’ve been a perfect video to sponsor expressVPN lmao
Would love to see you do an interview with Erik & joa on bug abusing.
Noticed your comment before :) Would love to do one - just gotta find a way to contact them
@@CrumbRS Ay, nice. Thanks for the reply
aufzen lol.
Thank you for doing this video. I never knew this was a story. Very interesting and scary. Loved it and love the content !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Before watching: Mod Jed Documentary?
Yep.
@@Slothptimal not really
I remember bullerik was telling ice poseidon on stream once maybe late december 2015 that rot had an insider to Jagex and he laughed at him and no one in chat believed him.
i remember that as well one of the best streams in osrs history lmao
mod jed is watching this video from an ice berg on alaska
😂
We Alaskans don't want him
Meaning he’s from Alaska, or he’s kind of hiding from Jagex/the internet community?
I became aware of this game when I was a freshman in college about 4 years ago and my roommate was flipping out about remembering it and getting re-addicted to it. I've only ever played it once lol, but these videos are so damn interesting.
Runescape goes so deep, and i love that!! The f2p methods are very good!! There are not that many games having this!!
Runescape is one of the longest running MMOs on the internet, and it's always been rife with a lot of really wild shit because people with a lot of times on their hands (ie. young people and just general nolifers) would get super into it. I bet people who played Ultima Online and Everquest have similar sorts of stories, judging from my dad's stories, but since the audience of those games is much older from what I know it doesn't seem like people are making as many videos about it.
Runescape is so unique and crazy. Lol truly amazing all for a video game.
It's like that because Jagex doesn't give a shit.
All for a video game, yes. But with how long it takes to acquire items of value in the game, it gives them a lot of real world value too. So when someone's doing stuff like this, they're likely selling the items virtually in exchange for real world money.... and they're likely making bank. IRL. So.... even crazier, I guess... not only for a video game, but abusing a video game for hefty real world gains. Crazy. That's runescape for you. So much so that it's literally the economic infrastructure for some third world countries. I'm not joking, look it up, lol.... probably shouldn't be laughing at that >.>
Crazy to think a game as simple as pointing and clicking can create so much drama, this shit was surreal
Imagine going to school and studying all that shit just to piss it all away. taking from the very people that give you an income from the job u had. Thats some kind of shitty.
Lmao “one thing they didn’t look into is liking the video and buying our figurines”
liked strictly cause of how smoothly you threw the sponsor in there
Hey man I really enjoy the research you put into these videos keep it up!
Thank you :)
If Jed was doing some RMT on the side, this would have been a good way to farm gear and gold before flipping it.
Whaaa.. No "Love, peace, and chicken grease" sign off outro? When did this happen?
Because of how little jagex did about the situation i feel like Mod Jed was just the tip of the iceberg, sadly.
@@unknownanon4993 pretty much, ask yourself how they let someone have the type of access he did have to begin with. From a programmer/game dev perspective it should be obvious to not give all kinds of access to most devs, if any at all. As far as we know as a community, he had personal details on people and there's an ongoing lawsuit of jagex because of this.
@@Xortrox too right mate. This is a super serious incident to occur within a company
@@unknownanon4993 yea for sure theres money to be made
I'd legit be lawyering up and sending jagex subpeonas to sue jed and cheeky alerb if I had been DDOS'd, that shit is criminal.
@@johnnycigar3240 selling gold you earned - illegal
If that's the case then this should come with jail time.
These people lost 100x my account.. That's literally thousands and thousands of hours of game time.
This is rediculous!! It makes me concerned about progressing, what's the point? Will I get hacked, scammed, ddosd? Will jagex even care if my sole self did? The answers are possibly yes I will and most deffinately no they wont! It's not acceptable.
Give him jail time no joke! It's theft!
this whole thing kinda reminds me of the early stages of L's investigation into kira, with the whole trying to figure out if he could get IPs in real time in correlation with L using someone on death row to see if he could kill someone with just a name and face.
Whole ROT clan should be banned. Rigging deadman tournaments, DDosing, revs, etc.
Lol how is revs listed as a reason
@@B.o.o.L I mean they were exploiting Venezuelans there paying them barely anything to work for them xD
@@lolsamftw Well I mean not like they have any opportunity to get paid more lol they were most likely happy to have any sort of opportunity at all
Yeah boy this is runescape, even fkin slavery is a thing here. Man i mean even two decades later, this game just won't seeze to amaze me lol :D Dafuq man, sht is fkd up yo
@@tvmanin I don’t think you know much about the game since when was holding down revs and even pay to pvm worlds against the rules ? It’s never been nobody has been banned for it
As a long time pker It seems like you are over explaining TB’s, Sara Strike, smites, etc. But then i realized most of RS doesn’t pk. Great video !
Nah. I have never pvped at all and knew all of their abilities. Should not be this difficult.
Ahhh good thing jagex solved this problem and refunded the victims. ...oh wait
At 10:03 in private chat it shows a player named Makendu. That player got my 14 year old younger self to try to log into a phishing website back in like 2009 and yoinked all my stuff and even dropped my torso. Sad to see this player still around and somehow keeps popping up on content creator's vids.
many of current content creators have shady pasts, Framed was part of lurenation and lured loads of people
makendu is in this videos comment section too, might be the same guy. he's in one of the big threads further up
@@garg0y7e sure is, and from all the recent comments on this channel, they haven't changed a bit.
"No legitimate pker carries around 2 staves."
Me: ... Uhoh.
At least now Jagex knows NOT to hire anyone to the company associated with ROT.
Honestly it would be a good idea to have a jmod or two just secretly monitoring them at all times.
@@thehoodedteddy1335 Definitely! They've proven they can't be trusted.
I love ur vids brother Crumb, always looking forward to the next upload
Thank you :)
I love the way you investigate and present stories, keep up the good work
this dude is gangsta, doesn't even change his name lol
Good stuff. very interesting! Great to see things like these come to light.
I'm glad you liked the video :)
crazy. i remember getting ddosed by him in v square, i was able to live by spamming the varrok west bank and made it in. was risking ancestral, kodai wand, max everything. crazy shit. the durial321 of my runescape era.
Oak dice? Isn’t that a gossip channel? 😂
No.1 gossip girl channel
Lol thats why im no longer subbed
oakdice gets to much heat
He made a video advertising a pay to win clan and lost subs. He's a gonad.
Massivre security flaw, there's no reason at all why a low high ranking mod or even an low ranking admin should be able to see players i.p's
Man i just found your channel and I've been binge watching. These videos are all great dude keep it up
Thanks man! New upload this weekend :)
Anything that involves someone cheating / exploiting in a multiplayer game against another player is just absolutely just depressing.
man deadass right before u said his new alias was vuhsachee i legit got a versace commercial wtf😂
Normal Jagex employees and mods shouldn't have access to IP information whatsoever.
guy unlocked the dark magic skill.
"Only a Jedi could have erased those files....but who...and why?"
You should make figurines of the random events. I really want leo the grave digger and the sandwich lady.
Same!
What a well thought out, informative, and interesting video. Hats off crumb! Spot on. 👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
0:15 *sees windows 7 interface*
Now there's a face I haven't seen in a long time...a long time.
The true madness is in many countries ddos is a felony and may result in 10 years in prison.
And kids are doing it everyday
I got disconected while watching this video
Grimiest community ever! Thanks for the videos, seems like installing this game is an invitation from every scum bag on the internet to enter your house
"Grimiest community ever!" LOL, this is true. Glad you like the videos. :)
Jagex really thought employing a RoT member was a good idea lmfao
Liked the video before seeing it, you always make crazy good videos mate!
Yeah!!!
I used to pull IP's out of Call of Duty games through an app called Cain and Abel, it would give IP's of anybody in the lobby with us. I would be willing to bet that when you interact with another player in game, a similar app would show up the new IP that's interacted with your connection, giving him the IP to hit offline as soon as he attacked them.
u would lose a lot of money
Man, I recognize a lot of the names in this video from pking, and wars in the wild back when I still played - Good times.
imagine committing a felony for a video game.
I mean it was a smart risk it just that the mod was slippin. From what I know, the hacker cud have sold his account full of valuables on the bm and make millions off of it and nobody would be able to pin it on him because the account isn't his anymore.
He’s from the uk we don’t have felony’s just regular charges and nothing to him has happened since and he probably made a few 100k so I would say it went well
@@droxxy94 So him giving people DDoS viruses is the same as him just littering trash?
@@preezus you will get longer but there is no misdemeanour or felony it’s just known as a charge. You are either sent to high court or magistrates court, they are also not viruses lol
@@preezus ddos isn't a virus
lol I watch these videos having never played runescape lol. It’s almost like a mental exercise because I have to sort of figure out what these different things are. I am not really a big player of games but I do find the little black markets and unintended economies and the social hierarchy that form around certain games fascinating. The idea of some guy sitting in his room who in reality may be considered a loser but within the game he plays he has the power and notoriety of a Lucchese crime boss cracks me up.
I don't get how players wouldn't first assume the person was somehow getting help from the inside. Think about how quickly you'd need to find their information. He doesn't have enough time to figure it out int he moment if it were from discord or whatever. It would need to be from something almost instantly.
You perfectly explained why it would make sense that he was pulling the information straight from the client....
And I bet the victims didn’t get any of their gear back 🙄
I never played this game more than a few minutes but the stories are very cool to watch
Wow. A modern day Duriel
Nice of you to shoutout the runescape gossip channel 😂 aka Oak
Cheeky Alerb was basically the RuneScape equivalent of SAO's Death Gun ^^
U know these kind of things happen in eve online too, but never have they been due to the incompetence of the developers, and in rs, all these things are simply due to the incompetence of jagex, funny how a company who cares so less about their player base has such a big playerbase.
Ddossing was huge pre eoc too. Lol
*Love* the vids!
I have an *awesome* video idea!
-Challenge other Streamers & Fans to a contest.
-The contest is 24 hour HCIM fight.
-After the 24 hours you take your HCIM to fight.
-Places such as Dueling arena, Castle Wars, Wild(If you want to go hard).
Another similar idea:
-Get some Streamers & Fans.
-The contest is create even teams for a clan fight.
-Players have 24 hours on a f2p account.
-After the 24 hours the clans group up & meet in the wild. (Or a place where you can control the environment better)
Hope you can adapt these ideas, and create some awesome content!
Best of luck!
This is almost like DeathNote but for the Runescape world
just preordered a kbd, hype
Thank you! :) I'll have it down to the post office for you in the morning
Lots of cheeky tactics
I'm just upset I never thought of this
This, for me, was the best video you've ever done. So interesting.
Thank you :)
The prices for them shitty figures is fucking robbery
It's Durials son
The only possible explanation to how he can ddos random runescape players is being a jagex moderator , mod jed. Great video ! This is a dark side to rs many people dont know!
Just copped a Jad figure. Thanks!
“Bank loot w58” oh the nostalgia
I know this is 3 years old but this is easy to tell if someone purposefully did this to you. If it happens and you suspect it there’s an application Kali Linux users use to see all network status’s. Yes I’m being vague yes it’s still doable yes it’s dangerous in the wrong hands. But good guys use it too
Great video man
"because hes using official client" next scene show him with runelite plugins for his hp/prayer bars
He did a lot more than rekindle the idea, this video added nothing new.. literally every talking point of other videos in order, same clips same images same structure. >_
like almost all of his other videos
A Vpn would ruin this whole thing. Can't break my internet when im in England but actually not in england. GOTCHA
i am sorry to disappoint you, but VPN in these instances wont help.
So what is DDOS - Distributed denial of service, essentially is that you are getting more requests then hardware can give, lot of different types of how it can be done. Lets say for example TCP Handshake(in order to establish connection there is process called handshake that go client to server, server respond to client, Client confirms to server and establish connection) DDOS - is when only only 2 first phases established, and never actually client confirms connection. basically flooding router with requests.
So in short term it would be flooding device with requests of the data, that device just chugs, we are talking about thousands of requests per second.
when we have basic principles out of the way, so reason why VPN wont help.
when you log in game your connection is secured and server know your public IP that have connected, when VPN server will be DDOS there could be 2 things either it disconnects on client end. or it would take some time to disconnect, because as far as your computer know it is routing all traffic thro VPN server, and it will take some time to understand that is down.
Even if it disconnect quickly your public IP is changed, as far as Jagex server know, you are different client that try to connect to game, meaning your old character are still in combat and logged on, meaning you cant create new connection. You will get message about already connected.
I work in IT, i support clients, and in order to connect there systems (Domain controler, file servers, firewalls) i have to use VPNs, and i connect to VPNs lot of times per day, and that is problem what i sometimes get.
Just like the guy above, your IP on the VPN is still leading to your pc. So it wont do anything
Didn't even make a video of Slolpo :'(
- RIP SLOLPO
Cheeky Alerb's real name: Death Gun
lol
Bruh... If i can 5 minutes in the room with cheeky ...
One of your best vids mate!
the BGM choices are fire
netcat -> ddos tool on specific ip address -> profit. Please note this cannot be patched. Happy hunting ;)
Other players traffic goes to Jagex server which dispenses their actions to you, there's no peer to peer connection so you can't sniff other people's IP addresses this way
The deeper connection you have the better ways to make illicit money. Same goes irl in business. Talking to an owner of 20+ gas stations. Mcdonalds,and other retail chains. Black market is tricky
I CAN CONFIRM CHEEKY ALERB WAS A DDOSER, HE DDOSED ME NUMEROUS TIMES AT DUEL ARENA FOR OVER 38.5B, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WARNING OTHERS ABOUT HIM!
Oakdice....I remember gambling with that clan way back lmao
You got a video in your ad XD
Loving the Octopath Traveler music
Me too
10:27 idk man, how can we believe anything you say after you shared your password with a friend 🧅
Jagex should send all the illegal things he did to the local police so that they can lock him up.
He's fled the UK and he is living somewhere else, so he will never go to prison (rumored that he moved to Argentina)
@@redaxecat9206 Jagex's fault for not sending info to police before they fired him, what a bunch of idiots.
forgot to shoutout frontline, they made original jed video
Why did no one try to log his ip?
Crumb can you make the giant goblin head from this years Christmas event into a figurine ?
The hacker that stalked me everyday can turn my VPN off