Subaru Timing Belt Kits: The Best & Only Choice.
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Had my timing belt done at 75,000 miles at a Subaru dealership in Charlotte. I was real green back then. Recently dug up my receipt. They didn't change any of my pulleys. Not happy. Luckily when I had my head gaskets replaced at 92 000, my dad's mechanic replaced all the pulleys. I never would of bothered looking if I hadn't started watching your videos. Thank you so much! You are a wealth of knowledge
Folger/Williams or South Blvd?
@@MrSubaru1387 it was the one on independence. I guess that would be Folger. This was probably 7 years ago.
@@johnnydubrow2279 yup. That's Folger, now Williams. Not surprised.
@@MrSubaru1387 I just double checked my receipt. It was just the timing belt and my accessory belts. 2004 forester X. That's all they changed. $657. I didn't know any better back then. I do now. Thanks again!
Your timing belt videos are filled of invaluable information! The kit I installed was great and easily put on because of you. Hardest part was getting the timing belt cover off of my Northeast car 😂
I want to say thank you for taking your time to educate owners ways to keep maintenance/repair cost effective. A real gem for shade trees mechanics in training. I hope you keep up the occasional Q/A vids. It might be just a sign of the times but Google search leads you to mostly dumbed down answers or someone selling you something.
This freaking video is worth GOLD. GOD BLESS YOU and the knowledge/experience you are sharing.
Love the feeling I get when I see something on this channel I already use/plan to use.
Dude. Thank you so much for the thorough explanation. I was going back and forth between the gates and aisin kits and this has sealed the deal. I'm gonna be researching your other videos to find what else I need for my engine reseal.
I just ordered a Timimg Belt kit. Rolled the dice and chose Aisin. I'm sure glad that's what you like to use.
best choice!
I just bought the tkf-005 for my '13 WRX, and the Company 23 crank pulley and cam lock tools. Going to do the job this weekend. Didn't have any confidence in doing it, then I watched your vids and saw the process isn't rocket surgery. All goes well you'll have saved me like 500 bucks!
I really appreciate all of the recommendations and videos! Working on my '02 Forester and I made sure to spend the extra cash for the Aisin kit
ONLY guy I’m listening to regarding parts and service procedures for my Subie!
If I would’ve seen this video sooner, it would’ve saved me a bunch of bullshit… this guy is a true gentleman n a scholar
Smartest guy on Subaru I've ever heard for sure
I think so too. I have a 2000 subaru forester. I recently had the timing belt replaced and opted for the Aisin kit as well. Definitely words of wisdom !!!!!
Ive used nothing but Aisin and replace mine at 60K just because I like getting it done sooner rather the later
Thank you for the information and for your hard work. This was exactly what I was looking for. I was trying to see if I needed to go to the dealer or if I could obtain the parts elsewhere. You saved me a lot of time and hassles. I will be doing a timing belt soon on the EJ253 engine and so I'm just prepping to see what parts are needed for the job. I am aware that Aisin makes OEM parts for some manufacturers like you stated Toyota and Honda. Keep up the great work! 👍
Thankyou Mr Subaru! I never knew of Aisin parts before, locked in the brain, hopefully. Fuji Heavy Industries is now Subaru Corporation.. I did not know that. Explains much. Again thankyou.
Got one of your Snap On tools a while ago. A brake spring removal and installation tool that I got second hand off eBay, a "B11" I think is stamped on it. Best thing ever for doing those springs. It's just made right. Makes the job a pleasure. No regrets paying the $30 for it.
In Australia the Subaru Dealers do sell a timing belt kit for the EJ and other models, minus the water pump which is a seperate cost as it is not always required to be replaced. For example the kit part number for and EJ 2.5 turbo is called TBKIT006 direct from dealers, and if you plan in advance more often than not you can get a deal on the kit from a dealer cheaper than buying individual components. Last kit I got from the dealer earlier this year was cheaper than the Aisin.
Just put one of their kits in my Outback. Great stuff!
Most important some kits come with chinese parts which are junk. All parts need to be japanese. My friend just had his timing belt done and used a kit that only had all japanese parts. He also had the water pump replaced as well. I don't remember the name but I think it was Aisin kit. 2011 impreza. Car runs like a champ with no issues after the work was done. He's nearing 170K. Great video!
Not related to Subaru in general but I always recommend people to use oem timing components too many junk wing ding parts out there. Great video mrsubaru!
Nice tool box. Head gasket jobs are paying well ;) The Snap On Jacket was a give a way too. I made a lot of money with VW replacing Vanagon Water Boxer Cylinder Heads back in the 80's and 90's. 100's of them. They all leaked. Some good gravy for me. Yep, a good portion of my pay went to Snap-on, Mac, Cornwell.
So glad to hear this. Yeah dude, best deal on oem Subaru for timing belt and all needed goodies is $480.. I think ill go with the aisin.
You saved my car man !
I almost had a shop put in Dayco timing belt kit.I looked up Dayco to see they're made in CHINA !
How did I miss this one?! Great info here.. In the words of the Mandalorian: “This is the way..”
Thanks for another outstanding video.
Aisin kit installed in my daughter's 2010 Forester.
While there are less expensive kits available, it's false economy to go cheap on vital components.
Great video, lots of good info. Thanks for taking the time to share. Cheers
Installed a Gates timing belt kit in my son's 2006 Forester at 196,000 miles, because the tensioner had failed. The kit included everything except the water pump. Two weeks ago at 226,000, the car overheated, and my son pulled over and we checked it out. When we tried to start it, it sounded like it had a box of rocks banging around, so we assumed that the timing belt had failed and the pistons were hitting valves. We pulled the timing belt cover, and it turned out that the belt had not failed - one of the idler bearings (the one to the upper left of the crankshaft) had failed completely, the balls were all over the place, the bearing was all burned, and there were spots of burned belt on all of the other bearings. We were amazed that the belt had not snapped (and it had not slipped any teeth) - so I can't say anything negative about the Gates belt, but the bearings (they are Chinese) are obviously sub-standard. Anyway, after doing some UA-cam research, I found your posts that state that Aisin is the ONLY timing belt kit you can recommend - it has all Japanese parts. We got lucky, and I will NEVER buy another Gates kit. This could have cost several thousand dollars if the engine had been ruined. Thank you!
I replaced mine with a Continental kit. It was about the same price as the Aisin kit and it came with all Japanese-made components. I also used a Subaru OEM water pump from the dealer.
Lots of good info. Thanks .
Take care, and have a great day.
It’s refreshing to see that there’s a company out there that makes high quality aftermarket parts. I was impressed with the quality of my Aisin timing belt kit!
These aren't aftermarket. They're OE parts without the car manufacturer's sticker on the box. Bit different there.
@@MrSubaru1387correct, I’ve been using these for years on Subaru, Honda, Toyota…. I’ve seen AISIN and Toyota stamping on factory water pumps.. same goes for thermostats.. don’t ever get an “aftermarket” thermostat.
Wish this came out a week ago!! I just did mine 😂
I installed a gates Timing belt kit . All Chinese . It’s been a year no issues … honestly seems perfectly fine so far. Maybe one day it’ll give , but that’ll be the day I convince my wife for an IAG block lol
Great video (as always) it's interesting how Subaru of America say change the cambelt every 90,000 Miles and the UK service manual says every 50,000 Miles!
just bought one of these kits off RockAuto. Didnt see this video until after and im quite happy with my purrchase
I ordered an Aisin one for the EJ205 a month or so ago and was amazed it had all the best Aisin/Mitsuboshi/NSK/Etc. Parts that I used to have to order individually through Worldpac to get the best parts. Good stuff!
Steve, question bud. I just recently bought a kit for an EJ205(04WRX) bought the Aisin TK-004. It was missing the small idler pulley.
But did your kit come with two of the black idler pulleys?
Thanks
@@alfredojarillo3146 Ooh that was over a year ago, I do not recall precisely. I do know the kit had all the correct parts including the upgraded dual bearing pulley.
About to order two! Currently fighting two snapped pinch bolts on the spindle. Removed the entire spindle, I tried drilling it out on the car, but I need it on a bench.
Went to Subaru for parts and asked for a quote for timing belt supplies, came out to ~$550
Great info! Stay safe bro!
Just put one of these kits in an older sti yesterday. Really high quality parts and priced well. Hardest part of the job is getting the stupid water pump gasket to stay in place while putting that water pump back in.
You could use screwdrivers on the holes of the thermostat to keep the gasket on the water pump
2005 wrx 2.0, bought her at 111k miles no mods. First thing I bought was a mitsuboshi brand belt that came in my kit from 6-star. Came with oem tensioner and I bought a new oem japan water pump $320 total on ebay
heckin good video, more please :)
Here in Australia we have timing belt kits for most model/engines, they don't have a water pump in the kit. Subaru Australia must put then together, TBKIT005 suits V5 & V6 GC8, the kits vary between AUD $550 and AUD $700.
Yea great vid man. I always thought it was interesting how the super coolant is supposed to last 120k miles, but they still recommend to change it out every 30k
The old green is 3yr/30k replacement. The super coolant is supposed to be good for around 10yr/100k miles. I recommend 8yr/80k miles. Not big on high life coolant. Dealt with a lot of Dexcool headaches in the past
Great explanation Robert!
Thanks!
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
That geared cog is EXACTLY what cost me my usdm 2.5l in my 04 forester. She now has a jdm 2.0l in it and I only service it with Aisin kits
@MrSubaru, I've seen a couple reports recently of the Aisin/NTN timing belt tensioner failing and people saying that they need to be bled. Curious if you have heard of bleeding these tensioners before and if you have seen them fail on brand new kits within a short amount of time. Apparently, the Gates is also a NTN tensioner but Gates specifies how to bleed it.
Thanks for sharing, I did learn a lot
I bought one from amazon(seller amazon). Their kit has the Mitsuboshi timing belt made in JAPAN. all other components made in japan too
Same, but got it on ebay
Aisin is d best no doubt. I do use felpro, victor reinz and gates kits on toyota, lexus and hondas that I have no issues so far. 95 honda odyssey with,000 miles replaced timing belt with related twice getting ready to do again.used aisin kit .
I have only used AISIN kits for many, many years in my timing belt equipped cars. OEM for a reason for Honda and others...
Great video. 👍
Of course, because of my own sloth and your recommendations, I have a brand new unused Gates kit sitting in my garage. 💩 Poop.
Awesome vid , this concerns me I want to buy a pre fa20 wrx.
Just lost my timing belt yesterday, time to learn how to do this
I have 3 Subaru's. I have always used Gates with no worries.
One is a 2001 Impreza we bought at 40,000. Now, 378,000.
I definitely think Aisin is the best aftermarket option. However, I recently purchased a Gates "N" kit and I was overall pleased with everything except for the tensioner body itself. The bearing was OEM, but the tensioner body was not marked, so I suspect the hydraulic component is not made in Japan. The water pump was made in China I believe, but it looked nearly identical to OEM inside. Kit went on perfect and car is running well.
I have a full video to release going over the kit, I'll have to get on that. The only reason I went with it was to see if the N kit was truly all OEM components and it was something like $40 cheaper than the Aisin for seemingly all the same components minus the water pump. Gates tries to be clever by calling the non OEM component kit "OE Improved" but you definitely want the part number ending in "N" labeled "OE Design" instead.
Actually, just edited mine and it looks like the tensioner that comes in the Gates kit is identical to the one from the Aisin kit in your video. So I'm betting they both come from the same Japanese factory. Both have the same NOK seals as well which are of course Japanese. So the only components that are for sure different are the water pump and actually the smaller double roller idler. The one in the Gates kit has a black seal and just says Gates, no country of origin stamp, so I'm guessing not Japanese. Very bizarre that only the small roller is not a Japanese component.
only thing differences is price . Gates retails for like 500usd right now aisin is 300usd @@802Garage
Aisin makes the best kits. Last time I got a gates kit it was 100% Chinese bearings
Wise advice sir
In New Zealand Subaru selling timing belt kit including all idler and tensioner, belt, and crank seal for NZD$399. Water pump kit including water pump, thermostat and gaskets for NZD$99.
I am interested to see the NA 2.4 in the new 2022 BRZ......
The HP and Torque figures for the new 2.4 NA engine are impressive...
I did my own at 105k. Jesus I was lucky. But that bearing was getting scratchy. Wow I dodged a bulletin!
Awesome video content and advice - thank you sir!! I do need help finding an Aisin kit. I have a 2002 Forester with an Automatic transmission. Your Amazon site sells the TKF-001 kit for manual transmission. Does Aisin offer a kit for mine with the automatic transmission?.
There's an Asin manufacture here behind the woods at my home. Always wondered what they made there.
Very educational, thank you! Can I ask you to please confirm what kit I need for my 2011, OB 2.5L limited? It looks like it TKF-006. Thank You
When I get on the freeway in my 05 Forester sorta squeals and whistles like a Jetson’s car when the RPM is higher but not any other time. I think it’s a pulley in the Timing but I don’t know for sure. I will be doing the Kit you linked. I’m wondering what you think about the noise Brother. Thank you and God Bless you you have helped me lots and lots! 😏❤️🖖🏼🇺🇸
I got these kits, 20k so far removed everything and everything is great. I changed my 12' FXT at 110k and the belt was still great, the idler was not as smooth compared to a new one you can hear the bearing...slightly. The only problem was that one of the smooth idlers was different compared to OEM (green vs red/orange OEM) not sure if they were equivalent so I returned it and the new kit had the same inner color rubber.
Perhaps the most important timing belt / head gasket video. If you're going to do this, and proceed with caution, do not mess this step up. Or you can do it twice with an engine rebuild thrown in for fun like I got. Gates should get a cease and desist.
Found out ACI whom owns Parts Plus auto parts stores sells Aisin timing belt kits,the real deal too.
Great videos. Which Aisin kit do I need for a 2015 outback 4 cylinder timing belt/water pump?
Thank you for the video Mr Subaru. Here in Argentina original timing belts kits are extremely expensive. The service in the delearship is very expensive, specially if you compare it with the value of the vehicle itself. I have a 2011 automatic Impreza 2.0 with 150 horsepower. What kit number with be soutable??
I know this is an old video,but had a quick question . I bought the aisin kit to do the timing belt in my 2012 outback. I also bought an Aisin thermostat that looks exactly like the subaru one. Is this a good replacement or should I strictly use the subaru branded one? Thanks for the help and the awesome helpful videos!! You've helped me a ton!!
Would be nice if Subaru offer a timing belt kit for their SVX..
Just did my first timing belt, went well, I used an aisin kit on my 06 forester (ej253 4eat) and the water pump it came with was missing an the oil cooler.
Was about to type a comment about it when you went over it in the video.
thanks for your videos, appreciate all the gr8 info 🤙
Mr Subaru! thanks for this video! I'm having to replace the engine on my 2005 Forester, any recommendations on where to purchase one? I see all the "JDM" suppliers, but I don't know who or what to believe 🤔. Any guidance would be a help, thanks!
I found your helpful channel after purchasing a 2018 Crosstrek with CVT right at 70k, this video will help in the near future. Is there a timing belt kit for this year/model?
I got 2002 Subaru forester S 4 speed automatic transmission , bought a Aisin TKF - 001.
Apparently i need to use my old thermostat housing on this water pump because it has the nipple for oil cooler line and just pray the water pump has right angle for my old housing but lookin at it it's going to work fine.
Subaru discontinued the thermostat housing for these so i better never have anything bad happen to it and be really careful torque wrench them tiny bolts on there at less then 5 ft. Lbs.
Hi! How did the job go? I'm doing my 2002 Forester w/Auto transmission now and noticing that Aisin only lists a kit for the manual transmission. Like yours, my water pump has the oil cooler nipple too. Did everything go ok with the housing swap and kit installation?
My local Subaru dealer does still list the water pump. It lists for around $140, so worst case I can get the pump from them and it should have the correct housing
AIIIISSSIIINNNNNNNN
The Aisin kit I bought for my 2006 forester 2.5 non turbo automatic came with the wrong water pump. It didn't have the ports for the oil cooler.
About to order one of these kits for my 05 2.5rs. Would you recommend getting a oem timing tensioner or simply running the one that comes in this kit?
I did purchase the oem waterpump gasket and thermostat already.
Just put on this timing kit on my 07 Subaru forester ll Bean edition. Got it started for the first time in a month after the head gasket and timing belt job. My only question is: are you supposed to bleed air out of the aisin kit belt tensioner before installing? Or is that only with the gates kit?
Enjoy your content. I want to replace my timing bell on a 2011 Outback. I physically cannot do the work myself. I’m looking for a suggestion on how to find a qualified mechanic. My Subaru dealer leaves much to be desired.
I use nothing but Aisin kits for Asian vehicles I’ve tried continental and gates kits for ej’s and water pump fitment was trash. I found tensioner failures common on ejs as well.
What is the Aisin kit number for a 2005 outback 2.5xt? Having a hard time locating one. Thanks.
Thank you for great videos! Iam wondering if i kan use Aisin kit om my european Subaru legacy 2.0 from 2006? can you send me the direct link to timing belt kit ? greetings from Sweden
Should I also change the thermostat in my 2001 forester while I am doing the water pump & belts? Nothing going wrong so far, just want to know if I should bother.
Hello Mr. Subaru, where are you buying the AISIN TKF-004 kits these days? They seem impossible to find. My next option is the Gates TCKWP328N (Gates evidently got the message and started using Japanese manufactured parts with the exception of the water pump. Thanks!
G'day mate, would you by any chance have the part number for the old style tensioner and pulley? If it's possible to retrofit a better thing, i'd be down for that...
MrSubaru, I have the one exception vehicle you've mentioned. The 2006 Forester EJ253 SOHC with Automatic transmission. Which Aisin timing belt kit with water pump would this engine accept?
I have 2003 forester 2.5x auto. Aisin only makes their kit for the manual version. If I buy the kit and replace the water pump with the automatic trans version will everything else fit? thanks and great videos!
But i an going to try the Aisin kit for my ej255
Very informative, I am looking for a powersteering pump for my BH5-183269 GT legacy 2001 engine EJ206DXDBE. Its a JDM, would be helpful to get leads where I can source this thanks
Hi and thanks for your help. Question....I have a SG 2.0 Forester from 2003 the timing belt has been replaced about 33000 miles and 9 years ago. The car has been gently used and always garaged. Do you suggest I replace now or when? Thanks again.
i’m new to the car scene and want to replace the belt my self! i worries about getting the wrong kit. which one would you need to get for a 2003 wrx?
Separate question, is it possible leaking valve seals or spark plugs tube seals can imitate symptoms of ringland failure? I had a factory shortblock put in to replace the current one with ringland failure I bought the car with, but the shop never replaced the catalytic converter which was clogged badly and may have caused ringland failure again. Thanks
Bought a gates kit once and only once tensioner lasted a month and it would slack when it got cools overnight I was on night shift and it would knock for the first 30 seconds till I figured out the tensioner failed
why am i having trouble finding kit for 2004 subaru forester, non turbo, auto trans? thanks really like how you do your videos!
I want to get one of these kits, but the kit number for a 99 OTBK 2.5 EJ is not listed, how do I get the right kit number through the click link thru?
Excellent "audio" pickup.. just saying 👍😎
Just did my wrx belt with the 005 kit. All were oem Japanese bearings and the kit was only 300 dollars. My belt had no writing at 90k miles
Mr. Subaru, do a video on engine mount replacement for a SH Forester :)
Say please dammit !
Hehe ;O)