Seven may have been written into the series as an element of sex appeal, but turned out to be so much more! Jerry Ryan on so many occasion showed brilliant acting, switching characters, giving Seven so much intensity in her dark moments and everything else, Seven is one of the most shimmering characters of all of the Star Treks. Sex appeal on the surface, but that's only the first visible facet.
The Doctor and Seven helped me cope with my adult diagnosis of autism, I was not programmed with social interaction subroutines, like them however I grew to be more than the sum of my programming.
Jery Ryan seldom receives the credits she deserves for he great acting skills. Playing Seven Of Nine was no easy feat, and she manage to make her character grow with ease, despite the well-known jaleousy from Mulgrew. Her performance in "Boston public" as a school teacher was great as well.
Yes, she has aged very well since she get nice roles based on her sex appeal still!😊 Only a few woman still have that quality in Hollywood! The rest play the old grandmas roles!😂
This show helped me cope when my youngest was born. She would not eat, and ended being fed through a tube through her nose for her first 2 years. (She's fine now.) Her first Halloween, I had hit the phase where I had to laugh about it or cry about it. I put her in a black onesie, taped some extra tubes to her, and dressed myself in a blue Starfleet costume. Baby Borg!
I agree. But I also feel she is more Sarah Connor than her original character. As a amateur/intermediate writer, I've always been taught, and practiced, that characters can grow and evolve, but it's just wrong to break out into something else entirely. I feel the Picard Seven has broken out and I don't quite recognize the character now. She's not quite Seven anymore. In my opinion.
@@dec2 I think that's a safe, conventional look at how characters should be allowed to grow - a bit, but not so much as to be transformed. I think Seven was a character destined for a radical transformation and I appreciate the new Seven even more than the old one.
I never thought about this aspect of her character but after hearing it spoken out loud and thinking back I do fully understand it and even relate a bit. I didn't exactly have the nicest of childhoods with my parents doing everything within their power to objectify me (in both the literal as metaphorical sense of the word). So when I escaped I didn't even feel human anymore (and I still do on occasion)... I can see how the "Borg to human again" struggle is so relatable in cultsurvivors.... the only difference is that usually survivors fight to fully embrace their re-integration (yet sometimes feel alienated) and I did it the other way around... I accepted I would never be of either group but have deep understanding about both
After I lost my restaurant in LA, I was working at the Target in Woodland Hills as a cashier. A pretty lady was buying a laundry basket for her brother and was in my line. When she was swiping her card, I just glanced at her and said straight out, "You look just like that Babe in Star Trek." She looked at me and smiled and it was Jeri Ryan. I was like, I just called Jeri Ryan a Total Babe to her face.
Oh gosh, this does bring back memories of watching ST:V as an adolescent teen, who used to make excuses of 'visiting the bathroom' multiple times after watching Seven Of Nine on screen. Good days indeed!
Seven of Nine's story, as well as the DS9 episode It's Only a Paper Moon, have helped so many people through PTSD that the latter is actually prescribed to some combat PTSD patients....
There was talk from former show runner Michael Chabon that a Fenris Rangers series was pitched to CBS\Paramount. I dont know what happend but I to would like a series with Jeri Ryan.
It broke my heart a little to learn that there was animosity between Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan, particularly with Mulgrew being the "bully." I'm a woman in STEM and their relationship was special to me because I would have loved to have a more experienced female professional support and mentor me as Janeway did Seven. I'm glad the air has been cleared between them, but I'm very sorry that Ryan didn't have a better, more inclusive experience. I know too well what that's like.
That kinda got me as well, I can understand Kate Mulgrew being miffed that a character was introduced that railed against her stance but it was hardly Jeri Ryans fault, she was just playing her role, did Mulgrew want her to turn down the part ffs? I would hate to think that Mulgrew was just a thundering a'hole.
Idolizing actors isn't healthy. I've met some famous actors and just treated them normal. They're just people. No need to jizz your pants over someone who gives no fks about you.
I humbly submit that the Robot from "Lost in Space" probably did more to popularize the expression "That does not compute" than Rhoda did... Also, Data is a rebooted Questor. Whether Rhoda inspired Roddenberry to create Questor is a topic for another discussion...
People will find meaning in the most unexpected places. Annika's character arc could well have been comparable to people escaping a horrific cult. If it helped anyone to see a future a bit further ahead, then that's just a great unexpected benefit. Jeri, whenever I've seen her interacting with fans or media, seems to be warm and professional. She's probably wished people would focus less or her physical charms than her other great qualities and I'm sure she's been pleasant to fans with some questionable social graces to call her a 'babe' or some such because she does have a sense of humour and recognizes her image. Still, I think she's smart and a pretty decent actor so it'd be nice if people called that out more often than how she happens to look.
Ever since I found out Kim was almost the one who was supposed to go not Kes I wonder if he was supposed to die in Scorpion Part 2. Remember he was critically injured and wasn't cured until part 2. Was this supposed to kill him before they saw the article and changed it to Kes?
I thought Kes was under-written and no actor can get past bad writing. I just didn't enjoy Harry as a character much, though he was less of a whiner than Paris. I liked Mulgrew, Seven, Belana, EMH, and even Neelix. Chakotay I could take or leave.
Seven was the best character in Voyager not because she was pretty, but because she got really good writing. The episodes which focused on her were almost always good to great. You can't say that about episodes that focused on other members of the cast.
A truly unique and enjoyable sharing. Thank you for sharing this reveal of the various psychological dicotomys Seven of Nine faced; along with the relevant dicotomys held for a time between Mulgrew & Ryan. I have and still continue to find your shared productions entertaining and enlightening. Please continue to remain awesome and amazing in everything you aspire to, as you have from the very beginning.
Jeri Ryan, the borg babe, & Brannon Braga were dating during her time on ST Voyager. There was some talk on the set that Rick Berman also tried to date her, Brannon won .
It feels good to know that the care they took with getting 7 to grow into an individual actually reaped benefits in the real world. So many of my fellow ex-evangelicals have the same trauma she did. It's a relief that they have an icon to make them not feel so alone.
It did feel good when 7 is on stage, I was a young man and a little more blood would rush to the tip of my penis... very refreshing, now days I have to hire 2 hookers to get that feeling.
Rhoda was an excellent comedy, and Julie Newmar delivered some outstanding lines. One of the more interesting "takes" on AI/androids vs "human" responses.
That makes me wonder why the Borg Queen in Star Trek Picard session 2 suddenly was getting soft when she made a deal to not force assimilate different lifeforms but instead asking if they wanted to join the Borg collective. That was really strange.
That's what all the big cults are doing now, since it has become ostensibly illegal to wage religious war and burn people at the stake for their beliefs these days.
On the Holodeck my Star Trek character has programs saved with Seven of Eight and Seven of Seven, who are her exact Triple Sisters. Needless to say I am dating both of them. Seven of Nine knows about this, is displeased, but has an open invitation to join us in a co-session of the holodeck. She is intrigued, but on the surface has not allowed herself to be open, but when she is read, like a flower, she will open. She was invited to simply play cards with her sisters and myself. These scenes were filmed, but due to the 1990s TV ratings were unfortunately cut.
Great list Trekculture and you hit a few I never even knew. But I think you left out a big one and one that ties into Picard. When Seven was being developed Jeri Taylor wanted to make her a lesbian/bisexual and thought it would be something she would explore once she got her humanity back. TPTB shot that down but as we are seeing on Picard, she is finally becoming the character Taylor envisioned for her over 20 years later.
I realised 7 was bisexual when she was kidnapped (maybe recalled would be a better word) by the Borg Queen. She would have tried to kill the Queen to save Voyager had she not felt something for her but she shows no hate or malice, towards the Queen, not even when Unimatrix zero is destroyed. Apart from 7 and the Queen i dont remember seeing any female Borg in the Collective
They need to stop rewriting characters to make them bi/trans/etc/whatever. Seven is all woman and straight. See: Harry Kim, the Doctor, relationship in Unimatrix Zero, Chakotay, etc etc. Still shoving sex and identity down kids throats and let girls be girls who like boys...that's how the species evolved and survives. Political agendas to influence young viewers has to go. I have no problem with any person or their preferences, but it needs to stay private. Love who you will, we can respect that; but you don't have to making Seven or any other characters in any entertainment "bi", "gay", "trans" or anything else they aren't to push your feelings, beliefs, or agendas on others. Seven and J.R. are "uni". As Pink Floyd warned us all a long time ago: "We don't need no thought control. Hey- teacher, leave those kids alone!"
Seven of Nine rank in Voyager was crewman after her 1st season and promoted to chief warranty officer at the end of Voyager. In 3rd Season of Picard, was an SF officer with rank of Commander!😊
I was a fan of the show before she arrived. The sex appeal kept me watching, but Jeri's performance made me a fan. And the Captain/Seven mother daughter relationship became one of the best parts of the crew dynamic
I think I'm one of the few who actually liked Seven's look in Scorpion. When I saw her without the sybernetics and implants, I honestly thought she looked boring. The idea of having a Borg crew member was exciting to me. Then they just made her "human"
Seven of Nine was the best part of the show. The character created a great side plot to the main story and so sets the scene for a great ending. Not many shows end like that 👏✌️🤘🇦🇺
I never warmed to her, I mean, at what point does assimilation become irreversible? She was assimilated as a child and spent twenty years as a drone, to compare assimilation with being part of a cult is absurd, her DNA was rewritten, nanoprobes, implants plus the things she witnessed and what she did, and within a short space of time, all of the Borg technology is removed and she is in the suit, plus lets keep calling her Seven. Just another nail in the Borgs coffin.
It brokes my heart, that kate and jeri wasnt nice with eachother... their relationship gave me so much, i always thought in real life they would have the Same warm connection...
Haha those were different times. Imagine Captain Jayneway would have never let the Borg Queen stay alone on her ship while taking a nap in her chateau outside. The fans would have gone mental lol.
A few things I didn't know, but, no, I can't hold this back, it's a glaring and most disturbing observation that cannot be allowed or forgiven; Sean, your rank pips are on the wrong side!!! :P
I used to enjoy watching Voyager during its original run time back in the day but for some reason I have not watched it in over 20 years, I tend to watch random episodes of TNG instead. Man I forgot how stunning she was.
The phrase "seven of nine" is a nod (imo) to Shakespeare from the play As You Like It. Act 3, scene 2, lines 175 - 180. An exchange between Celia and Rosalind. Rosalind says " I was seven of the nine days out of the wonder before you came, for look here what I found on a palm tree."
Did not know about the connects that society had made between cults and the Borg. Interesting. As for a machine culture. That, in some form or another has been kicked around by s/f writers for a while now (my first recollection of same was an early 60s Twilight Zone TV show), now comes along ai and we are going to see how that all works out. Liked the series.
Brought in for sex appeal, ended up having one of the most compelling arcs and best stories of the show. Her adversarial friend/mentorship with Janeway was so interesting to watch.
Well here I am on September 2nd 2022 and we're currently 230k subscribers. Good job wish I found this channel sooner. Great job! Darmok and gelad on the ocean.
I graduated 4th battalion Parris Island and all the recruits had to ditch the "I". "This Recruit requests to use the head" or "Recruit - our last name - needs help on their uniform"
Whenever I watch Voyager, the knowledge about Mulgrew vs. Ryan bums me out a bit... glad to hear that Mulgrew admitted that it was wrong to focus her anger on Ryan. She was 100% right to be angry about the situation, but to take it out, day by day, on someone who had nothing to do with the decision, that's just plain evil. Seven's story ended up being so much more than just some ratings stunt. It's no secret that almost every Star Trek show has a character that people with autism identify with, and that's what we finally got with Seven on Voyager (Tuvok doesn't count, he was way too well-integrated and comfortable from the start). I think the ex-cult-member aspect is also a fantastic point, I've never even thought of it. Seven has really the best character development of the crew. From cult member to independent human being, or from ratings adrenaline shot to actually interesting character. I just hate that her evolving relationship with Janeway, which is so central to both characters' developments, is a bit tainted by what was going on behind the scenes. It just reminds you how real life does not naturally gravitate towards a satisfying conclusion.
Seven was one of the best characters ever produced in a star-trek series. No doubt many males found her very appealing in her cat-suit, but Ryan, like Jolene Blalock's T'Pol character, really developed the role, adding depth and complexity. This showed the growth in the Star Trek franchise were the early TV series has women just as passive characters [if they appeared at all]. Seven and T'Pol put women into heroic leadership roles that went far beyond the original concept of women as eye-candy. Although the Star Trek series is primarily about exploration and science, the semi-military role [often in self-defense] allowed the writers to imagine and explore how a Star Trek Captain would command and behave. In naval vessels, the Captain is both ship-mate and yet absolute despot. While the Star Fleet vessels had 'civilian" directives and priorities [already outlined] they also had to function as vessels of war, as demanded by the plot twists when they encountered hostile species. I has not know of the friction between Ryan and Milgrew, but it did not seem to affect the dynamics negatively on-screen. Initially worlds apart, the human and cyborg became "one". Seven had adopted her new 'collective". Seven was a conscript shipmate, and her evolution from dangerous alien to very important crew-member, echoed [in part] the evolution of press-ganged members in the Royal Navy to loyal and effective crew-members of a warship. T'Pol too made a transformation from uppity Vulcan, being in many ways superior to her captain, and yet over time being a loyal and highly effective officer that regarded herself as "Star-Fleet", and the rest of the crew recognizing herself as such. And in many ways, the "aliens" that joined Star Fleet mirrored the real life experiences of women, and people of color being integrated into the armed forces of the world. The "outsiders" had to be exceptional, just to be accepted.
What drew me to seven of nine is that they introduce her as borg who was such a strong yet vulnerable character before they reveal the cast suits - loved her developmental arc both in the first episodes and across the seasons. Tho I should have realized later that i was asexual and queer when i did not have the same thoughts as others regarding her outfits 😂 i just thought she was very pretty and shiny - literally!
while i must admit i only watched the odd episode of star trek voyager while it was on until i watched the whole of the last series, and when i did first of all watch a few episodes it was when kes was part of the crew, and as i did not really watch it much after these few first episodes, i cannot possibly think about how much i would be surprised by the introduction of a borg into the crew, and i get the idea that at least from a story point of view seven of nine would come aboard and cause conflict especially from the moment that she stepped onto the ship, and it was all about her now joining another collective, but hopefully this time not one that went around the galaxy and forced everyone to join there cult, and off course seven was hopefully helped by janeway to at least try to recover her humanity, and as it turn`s out of all of the borg that they could have chosen from not only have they chosen a lady borg, but also apparently one that is extremely beautiful, even if she does still have some of her implants still part of her, and that`s fine, but why is she not in a uniform or at least some baggy old clothes that were just lying around, off all the clothes that she could find to wear she seems to be wearing something that hugs her curves and apparently a bit too well, so not only does a man create this new member of voyager`s crew, but he also puts her in some nice sexy outfits, and then ask`s her out on a date, and i have to ask was this braga`s plan all along, but off course when seven of nine becomes now part of the crew all the men now seem to have there tongue out on the mere mention of her name, and i suppose if you had to become assimilated by the borg and being a man wouldn`t you want to have it done by the goddess that is seven of nine, and when i was watching seven`s and the one with the tattoo`s blossoming relationship i`m not sure that i was the only one that was jealous, and in real life jerry ryan is no doubt still one of the most beautiful ladies on the planet, and i was beyond thrilled to discover that she will now be starring on star trek picard.
Seven may have been written into the series as an element of sex appeal, but turned out to be so much more!
Jerry Ryan on so many occasion showed brilliant acting, switching characters, giving Seven so much intensity in her dark moments and everything else, Seven is one of the most shimmering characters of all of the Star Treks. Sex appeal on the surface, but that's only the first visible facet.
Definitely, Jerry Ryan was absolutely amazing with her acting skills.
Unfortunately, I could never take my eyes of her huge melons - stunning!
And she has a lovely singing voice ...was sad to see Kes go though
@@morinthshepard6567 Kes was writen out just when she was coming into her own wished they would have kept Kes when they added Seven
Well said and I totally agree!
The Doctor and Seven helped me cope with my adult diagnosis of autism, I was not programmed with social interaction subroutines, like them however I grew to be more than the sum of my programming.
I'm not alone 😊
social interaction subroutines are overrated, i deleted most of mine as they only caused software glitches and file corruptions
Jery Ryan seldom receives the credits she deserves for he great acting skills.
Playing Seven Of Nine was no easy feat, and she manage to make her character grow with ease, despite the well-known jaleousy from Mulgrew.
Her performance in "Boston public" as a school teacher was great as well.
Unfortunately her looks overshadowed her acting for some. Most realize that she saved Voyager not just with her looks, but her acting as well.
She can sing too!
She did an even better job of acting than the average actor, given that she’s a republican who doesn’t believe the things her character has said.
Infinite Regress was a particularly good episode at showing off her acting skills.
Just goes to show you that just because you’re hired for one reason doesn’t mean you can’t make it something more
I directed Jeri in a feature film. She is the nicest person you can imagine, and a top professional.
Great to hear that about her.
Interesting, I played Jeri in a feature film… and I was so nice about it.
Seven and Picard's shared recovery is one of the most relatable concepts to come from science fiction.
You know Jeri Ryan is currently 54 years old. And its probably a correct statement to say shes aged very well.
Yes, she has aged very well since she get nice roles based on her sex appeal still!😊 Only a few woman still have that quality in Hollywood! The rest play the old grandmas roles!😂
@@Agent77X - What about Stifflers Mom? She is an older Gal and always seems to have "Sexy Lady" roles :)
And still Hot !!
Yea she still fine asf
Jeri Ryan will be beautiful and classy until the day she shuffles off this mortal coil...
Jheri Ryan, the woman spandex was invented for.
Who?
I bet she likes Cool Hwhip,
I know her Dad
You mean Jeri Ryan? Don't forget about Jolene Blalock!😎
Jeri Ryan the woman who learned rapidly to HATE SPANDEX
It is so very cool that so many Star Trek characters and actors have made a real difference in so many people’s lives.
They are the best fan folk!
This show helped me cope when my youngest was born. She would not eat, and ended being fed through a tube through her nose for her first 2 years. (She's fine now.) Her first Halloween, I had hit the phase where I had to laugh about it or cry about it. I put her in a black onesie, taped some extra tubes to her, and dressed myself in a blue Starfleet costume. Baby Borg!
@@karencostanzo2906 took a long way to say ‘Baby Borg’ but glad y’all live long and prosper 🖖
that is the Purpose of science fiction. plus: you may be surprised how ancient the literature is .
all because of Roddenberry Genius and Leonard Nimoy Genius now trek is hopplessly dead no geniuses left alive
It's pretty outstanding that how Jeri Ryan looks now, she could ABSOLUTELY play a Sarah Connor
I CAN see that.
That's...brilliant.
I agree. But I also feel she is more Sarah Connor than her original character. As a amateur/intermediate writer, I've always been taught, and practiced, that characters can grow and evolve, but it's just wrong to break out into something else entirely. I feel the Picard Seven has broken out and I don't quite recognize the character now. She's not quite Seven anymore. In my opinion.
@@dec2 No, shes a lot MORE Annika now!
@@dec2 I think that's a safe, conventional look at how characters should be allowed to grow - a bit, but not so much as to be transformed. I think Seven was a character destined for a radical transformation and I appreciate the new Seven even more than the old one.
Had no idea Ryan had become a hero and model for cult survivors.
Maybe there IS hope.
lol 🤣
I never thought about this aspect of her character but after hearing it spoken out loud and thinking back I do fully understand it and even relate a bit. I didn't exactly have the nicest of childhoods with my parents doing everything within their power to objectify me (in both the literal as metaphorical sense of the word). So when I escaped I didn't even feel human anymore (and I still do on occasion)... I can see how the "Borg to human again" struggle is so relatable in cultsurvivors.... the only difference is that usually survivors fight to fully embrace their re-integration (yet sometimes feel alienated) and I did it the other way around... I accepted I would never be of either group but have deep understanding about both
only lesbian cult survivors
After I lost my restaurant in LA, I was working at the Target in Woodland Hills as a cashier. A pretty lady was buying a laundry basket for her brother and was in my line. When she was swiping her card, I just glanced at her and said straight out, "You look just like that Babe in Star Trek." She looked at me and smiled and it was Jeri Ryan. I was like, I just called Jeri Ryan a Total Babe to her face.
There were no lies detected in what you said to her, though.
She *DID* smile...
Cool
Hahaha I love that
Haha thanks for sharing. It's the little anecdotes in life. And sorry about the restaurant, I know the starting over feeling.
That character was always so serious. She was Earnest Borg-Nine.
That was bad, even by my standards. Please leave the internet!🤣🤣
Oh gosh, this does bring back memories of watching ST:V as an adolescent teen, who used to make excuses of 'visiting the bathroom' multiple times after watching Seven Of Nine on screen. Good days indeed!
Seven of Nine's story, as well as the DS9 episode It's Only a Paper Moon, have helped so many people through PTSD that the latter is actually prescribed to some combat PTSD patients....
When Picard ends I want another series that has Seven.
There was talk from former show runner Michael Chabon that a Fenris Rangers series was pitched to CBS\Paramount. I dont know what happend but I to would like a series with Jeri Ryan.
I’d watch religiously!!!
Not me. I am DONE revisiting old characters.
Fingers crossed for Star Trek: Stargazer
Seven and Raffi together maybe?
Jeri Ryan also played Sonya Blade in the "Mortal Kombat: Legacy" webseries.
I watched that and actually liked that.
@@markgowans Likewise!
That was actually a pretty damn good series, had some great fights in it
It broke my heart a little to learn that there was animosity between Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan, particularly with Mulgrew being the "bully." I'm a woman in STEM and their relationship was special to me because I would have loved to have a more experienced female professional support and mentor me as Janeway did Seven. I'm glad the air has been cleared between them, but I'm very sorry that Ryan didn't have a better, more inclusive experience. I know too well what that's like.
That kinda got me as well, I can understand Kate Mulgrew being miffed that a character was introduced that railed against her stance but it was hardly Jeri Ryans fault, she was just playing her role, did Mulgrew want her to turn down the part ffs? I would hate to think that Mulgrew was just a thundering a'hole.
Yeah. I loved their characters too.
I'm not in the least surprised
I guess you can say that women will be women.
@@JFF35753 And men will be misogynistic. I'm surprised you are a Star Trek fan. You clearly don't embody its ideals.
Excellent stuff. I love that JR has returned in ST Picard.
JR returns and is a Commander rank and a lesbian!😮
I stood next to her in a CHICAGO CRATE AND BARREL in the late 90's. I was in heaven!
Crate and barrel is not heaven
Even as a woman I think she is absolutely gorgeous!
Idolizing actors isn't healthy. I've met some famous actors and just treated them normal. They're just people. No need to jizz your pants over someone who gives no fks about you.
I humbly submit that the Robot from "Lost in Space" probably did more to popularize the expression "That does not compute" than Rhoda did...
Also, Data is a rebooted Questor. Whether Rhoda inspired Roddenberry to create Questor is a topic for another discussion...
More than just a pretty face Jeri Ryan is a great actress and made Seven a legendary character
She is as intelligent and brilliant as she is beautiful.
People will find meaning in the most unexpected places. Annika's character arc could well have been comparable to people escaping a horrific cult. If it helped anyone to see a future a bit further ahead, then that's just a great unexpected benefit.
Jeri, whenever I've seen her interacting with fans or media, seems to be warm and professional. She's probably wished people would focus less or her physical charms than her other great qualities and I'm sure she's been pleasant to fans with some questionable social graces to call her a 'babe' or some such because she does have a sense of humour and recognizes her image. Still, I think she's smart and a pretty decent actor so it'd be nice if people called that out more often than how she happens to look.
Unfortunately, the majority of the human race are still cult members. It's a nice thought, though.
The work put in& narration was top drawer. Very informative. Well done. I will be subscribing.
Wow, I enjoyed that more than I thought I would. It's good to know these things.
This actress never seems to age - she looks just as beautiful now as she did over twenty years ago.
Ever since I found out Kim was almost the one who was supposed to go not Kes I wonder if he was supposed to die in Scorpion Part 2. Remember he was critically injured and wasn't cured until part 2. Was this supposed to kill him before they saw the article and changed it to Kes?
It's a good thing too, since Jennifer Lien went feral latter on.
I'm so glad they kept Kim!
I liked kes
both Kes and Harry were supposed to be cut
but the fans saved Garrett
I thought Kes was under-written and no actor can get past bad writing.
I just didn't enjoy Harry as a character much, though he was less of a whiner than Paris.
I liked Mulgrew, Seven, Belana, EMH, and even Neelix. Chakotay I could take or leave.
Seven was the best character in Voyager not because she was pretty, but because she got really good writing. The episodes which focused on her were almost always good to great. You can't say that about episodes that focused on other members of the cast.
And because of Jeri Ryan’s phenomenal acting chops
@@Grova That too. She's fantastic. I really liked her on Boston Public too.
A truly unique and enjoyable sharing.
Thank you for sharing this reveal of the various psychological dicotomys Seven of Nine faced; along with the relevant dicotomys held for a time between Mulgrew & Ryan.
I have and still continue to find your shared productions entertaining and enlightening.
Please continue to remain awesome and amazing in everything you aspire to, as you have from the very beginning.
Jeri Ryan, the borg babe, & Brannon Braga were dating during her time on ST Voyager. There was some talk on the set that Rick Berman also tried to date her, Brannon won .
Great episode Sean! Thank you! 🙌🙌
My wife asked 'who, on television has nice lips'; I said 'Seven of nine' My wife said, 'I didn't know that you noticed her lips'.
☺️
How could you not notice them, as tight as that catsuit was?
I don't think the name "Perra" would've gone over very well with Spanish speakers lol 😆
Would’ve been hilarious
Who knows? Maybe it’d have gone over exactly right.
Ok Dog!
What's the translation, please?
@@simoneanne01 …”Female dog”, more or less; you can find the exact translation by simply Googling “perra Spanish”.
It doesn't matter what color the catsuit was .. it had Jeri Ryan inside !
The silver suit is the hottest
Looks like you got 200k a little early nice work y'all thank you for the awesome content.
Susan Gibney is seven years older than Jeri Ryan. According to IMDB she hasn't had an acting role in tv/film since 2015, . Sounds like she's retired.
She's very pretty.
It feels good to know that the care they took with getting 7 to grow into an individual actually reaped benefits in the real world. So many of my fellow ex-evangelicals have the same trauma she did. It's a relief that they have an icon to make them not feel so alone.
It did feel good when 7 is on stage, I was a young man and a little more blood would rush to the tip of my penis... very refreshing, now days I have to hire 2 hookers to get that feeling.
Rhoda was an excellent comedy, and Julie Newmar delivered some outstanding lines. One of the more interesting "takes" on AI/androids vs "human" responses.
To me, Julie Newmar was the Ultimate Babe. Very tall and stunning! She was also the perfect "Stupifyin' Jones" from "L'il Abner." See the movie!
That makes me wonder why the Borg Queen in Star Trek Picard session 2 suddenly was getting soft when she made a deal to not force assimilate different lifeforms but instead asking if they wanted to join the Borg collective. That was really strange.
That's what all the big cults are doing now, since it has become ostensibly illegal to wage religious war and burn people at the stake for their beliefs these days.
That was because the Borg Queen was a mix of Alice and the borg queen.
Jeri Ryan quickly became my favorite Star Trek series character after she came to the show. She is from Paducah, Kentucky.
That you started namesake at seven minutes nine seconds into the video... *chefs kiss* Nice job.
That "bun"is called a Grace Kelly roll :)
I thought it was a French Pleat 😉
@@thoughtfortheday7811 lmao
He's a man. Don't expect him to know. :-)
On the Holodeck my Star Trek character has programs saved with Seven of Eight and Seven of Seven, who are her exact Triple Sisters. Needless to say I am dating both of them. Seven of Nine knows about this, is displeased, but has an open invitation to join us in a co-session of the holodeck. She is intrigued, but on the surface has not allowed herself to be open, but when she is read, like a flower, she will open. She was invited to simply play cards with her sisters and myself. These scenes were filmed, but due to the 1990s TV ratings were unfortunately cut.
Nice to see you have hit 200 k
Great list Trekculture and you hit a few I never even knew. But I think you left out a big one and one that ties into Picard. When Seven was being developed Jeri Taylor wanted to make her a lesbian/bisexual and thought it would be something she would explore once she got her humanity back. TPTB shot that down but as we are seeing on Picard, she is finally becoming the character Taylor envisioned for her over 20 years later.
I realised 7 was bisexual when she was kidnapped (maybe recalled would be a better word) by the Borg Queen. She would have tried to kill the Queen to save Voyager had she not felt something for her but she shows no hate or malice, towards the Queen, not even when Unimatrix zero is destroyed. Apart from 7 and the Queen i dont remember seeing any female Borg in the Collective
@@jonathanfraser321 Anika's mom, and the Borg kids that were rescued, 2 were female.
And yet it’s NOTHING anyone truly cared about …
They need to stop rewriting characters to make them bi/trans/etc/whatever. Seven is all woman and straight. See: Harry Kim, the Doctor, relationship in Unimatrix Zero, Chakotay, etc etc. Still shoving sex and identity down kids throats and let girls be girls who like boys...that's how the species evolved and survives. Political agendas to influence young viewers has to go. I have no problem with any person or their preferences, but it needs to stay private. Love who you will, we can respect that; but you don't have to making Seven or any other characters in any entertainment "bi", "gay", "trans" or anything else they aren't to push your feelings, beliefs, or agendas on others. Seven and J.R. are "uni". As Pink Floyd warned us all a long time ago: "We don't need no thought control. Hey- teacher, leave those kids alone!"
@@robwr737 And do you make 'private' who you are with or married to? Really no one knows you are straight, gay or bi? How does that work exactly?
I always thought there was some inspiration for Seven from the trek novel Vendetta by Peter David.
Well colour me educated, i never made the link between Brahms and Benteen
Seven of Nine rank in Voyager was crewman after her 1st season and promoted to chief warranty officer at the end of Voyager. In 3rd Season of Picard, was an SF officer with rank of Commander!😊
As always, very well done.
I was a fan of the show before she arrived. The sex appeal kept me watching, but Jeri's performance made me a fan. And the Captain/Seven mother daughter relationship became one of the best parts of the crew dynamic
I think I'm one of the few who actually liked Seven's look in Scorpion. When I saw her without the sybernetics and implants, I honestly thought she looked boring. The idea of having a Borg crew member was exciting to me. Then they just made her "human"
I never knew she and Braga dated! I'm sure that went over well with the other cast members 😏
Braga seems like a massive nerd. Why the hell did she date him?
@@titusmccarthy casting couch?
Seven of Nine was the best part of the show. The character created a great side plot to the main story and so sets the scene for a great ending. Not many shows end like that 👏✌️🤘🇦🇺
I never warmed to her, I mean, at what point does assimilation become irreversible? She was assimilated as a child and spent twenty years as a drone, to compare assimilation with being part of a cult is absurd, her DNA was rewritten, nanoprobes, implants plus the things she witnessed and what she did, and within a short space of time, all of the Borg technology is removed and she is in the suit, plus lets keep calling her Seven. Just another nail in the Borgs coffin.
Great in depth gems thanks!
For me, Seven is a Maschinenmensch (from the film Metropolis) turning back into a human. Fascinating.
That's why Voyager is excellent---because of the traits of humanity that are explored.
I never knew this existed until hearing GW and RDM talking about it on The Delta Flyers podcast.
1st time I watched this it's very good, well done.
wow, I learned something. Thank You!
Voyager is one of my favorite Sta Trek series. Sevens episodes are some of my favorites. Body and Soul was very funny and well written, IMHO. 🖖🏼😉🤙🏼
"Voyager" & "Next Gen' are OUR (2) FAV'S Really Scuba' Dude'!!...👊🔥
Very good video! 👏👏👏 Live long and Prosper! 🖖
It brokes my heart, that kate and jeri wasnt nice with eachother... their relationship gave me so much, i always thought in real life they would have the Same warm connection...
I stuck with you for three minutes. In that time, there was a long, “please subscribe” and a lot of info that had nothing to do with 7 of 9.
Insightful and illuminating on Jerri Ryan and her character. Thanks!
Haha those were different times. Imagine Captain Jayneway would have never let the Borg Queen stay alone on her ship while taking a nap in her chateau outside. The fans would have gone mental lol.
I surprised myself by watching this whole video. It was good.
A few things I didn't know, but, no, I can't hold this back, it's a glaring and most disturbing observation that cannot be allowed or forgiven; Sean, your rank pips are on the wrong side!!! :P
I doubt he's ever made it past petty officer.
Alternate Universe/Quantum Reality uniform ;P
You forgot to mention that Annika Hansson is swedish.
I have known several people with that name. Also, her fathers name is Magnus.Also swedish.
And “Borg” lol
@@tomcat3360 sounds swedish.
@@CathrineMacNiel Björn Borg... Look up.
@@AndrasMihalyi Annika Hansson was actually Björn Human.
@@AndrasMihalyi I think Kirrim was referencing First Contact. ;)
Great video. Learned a lot! That "709" thing was really cool, as was the idea of her being a beacon of hope for ex-cultists.
If there was an episode of Seven reading the Federation Charter in it’s entirety, people would watch.
I used to enjoy watching Voyager during its original run time back in the day but for some reason I have not watched it in over 20 years, I tend to watch random episodes of TNG instead. Man I forgot how stunning she was.
That was very informative thank you!!
Now I want to go watch those other shows! Very fascinating that she was a robot numbered 709!!!
Highly entertaining and I love a piece about one of my favorite ST characters! :)
AF 709 - awesome! Did not know this!!
The phrase "seven of nine" is a nod (imo) to Shakespeare from the play As You Like It. Act 3, scene 2, lines 175 - 180. An exchange between Celia and Rosalind. Rosalind says " I was seven of the nine days out of the wonder before you came, for look here what I found on a palm tree."
Eleventh thing you did not know is that Ernest Borg Nine is her father
This is probably the best thing about this show!
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Did not know about the connects that society had made between cults and the Borg. Interesting. As for a machine culture. That, in some form or another has been kicked around by s/f writers for a while now (my first recollection of same was an early 60s Twilight Zone TV show), now comes along ai and we are going to see how that all works out. Liked the series.
Very cool info
The silver catsuit is the bomb,
any series with the return of Seven in the silver catsuit,
I'm a viewer!!!
Jeri's one of Trek's loveliest ladies.
Did Jeri Ryan eat any carbs while on Voyager?
They would have fired her I suppose.
Brought in for sex appeal, ended up having one of the most compelling arcs and best stories of the show. Her adversarial friend/mentorship with Janeway was so interesting to watch.
Well here I am on September 2nd 2022 and we're currently 230k subscribers. Good job wish I found this channel sooner. Great job! Darmok and gelad on the ocean.
Jheri Ryan is half the reason I watch Star Trek Voyager.
Does anyone else remember reading "Anthem" by Ayn Rand in HS? The whole "we" vs "I" resonates with that story.
I graduated 4th battalion Parris Island and all the recruits had to ditch the "I".
"This Recruit requests to use the head"
or
"Recruit - our last name - needs help on their uniform"
@@hoshireed77 fun times....
#3: AF 709 from the 60s show must be where the name 7 of 9 (7 o’ 9) came from
Great series of videos
i feel like i need all this
Well done
Whenever I watch Voyager, the knowledge about Mulgrew vs. Ryan bums me out a bit... glad to hear that Mulgrew admitted that it was wrong to focus her anger on Ryan. She was 100% right to be angry about the situation, but to take it out, day by day, on someone who had nothing to do with the decision, that's just plain evil. Seven's story ended up being so much more than just some ratings stunt. It's no secret that almost every Star Trek show has a character that people with autism identify with, and that's what we finally got with Seven on Voyager (Tuvok doesn't count, he was way too well-integrated and comfortable from the start). I think the ex-cult-member aspect is also a fantastic point, I've never even thought of it.
Seven has really the best character development of the crew. From cult member to independent human being, or from ratings adrenaline shot to actually interesting character.
I just hate that her evolving relationship with Janeway, which is so central to both characters' developments, is a bit tainted by what was going on behind the scenes. It just reminds you how real life does not naturally gravitate towards a satisfying conclusion.
Thank you so much 😊
Actually that was a good review, thanks
Thanks.
Seven was one of the best characters ever produced in a star-trek series. No doubt many males found her very appealing in her cat-suit, but Ryan, like Jolene Blalock's T'Pol character, really developed the role, adding depth and complexity.
This showed the growth in the Star Trek franchise were the early TV series has women just as passive characters [if they appeared at all]. Seven and T'Pol put women into heroic leadership roles that went far beyond the original concept of women as eye-candy.
Although the Star Trek series is primarily about exploration and science, the semi-military role [often in self-defense] allowed the writers to imagine and explore how a Star Trek Captain would command and behave.
In naval vessels, the Captain is both ship-mate and yet absolute despot. While the Star Fleet vessels had 'civilian" directives and priorities [already outlined] they also had to function as vessels of war, as demanded by the plot twists when they encountered hostile species.
I has not know of the friction between Ryan and Milgrew, but it did not seem to affect the dynamics negatively on-screen. Initially worlds apart, the human and cyborg became "one". Seven had adopted her new 'collective".
Seven was a conscript shipmate, and her evolution from dangerous alien to very important crew-member, echoed [in part] the evolution of press-ganged members in the Royal Navy to loyal and effective crew-members of a warship.
T'Pol too made a transformation from uppity Vulcan, being in many ways superior to her captain, and yet over time being a loyal and highly effective officer that regarded herself as "Star-Fleet", and the rest of the crew recognizing herself as such.
And in many ways, the "aliens" that joined Star Fleet mirrored the real life experiences of women, and people of color being integrated into the armed forces of the world. The "outsiders" had to be exceptional, just to be accepted.
What drew me to seven of nine is that they introduce her as borg who was such a strong yet vulnerable character before they reveal the cast suits - loved her developmental arc both in the first episodes and across the seasons. Tho I should have realized later that i was asexual and queer when i did not have the same thoughts as others regarding her outfits 😂 i just thought she was very pretty and shiny - literally!
That was pretty awesome.
Love the entire 7 arch and she’s great in Picard as well.
While I am also a fan of her arch, I think that you mean "story arc". :)
while i must admit i only watched the odd episode of star trek voyager while it was on until i watched the whole of the last series, and when i did first of all watch a few episodes it was when kes was part of the crew, and as i did not really watch it much after these few first episodes, i cannot possibly think about how much i would be surprised by the introduction of a borg into the crew, and i get the idea that at least from a story point of view seven of nine would come aboard and cause conflict especially from the moment that she stepped onto the ship, and it was all about her now joining another collective, but hopefully this time not one that went around the galaxy and forced everyone to join there cult, and off course seven was hopefully helped by janeway to at least try to recover her humanity, and as it turn`s out of all of the borg that they could have chosen from not only have they chosen a lady borg, but also apparently one that is extremely beautiful, even if she does still have some of her implants still part of her, and that`s fine, but why is she not in a uniform or at least some baggy old clothes that were just lying around, off all the clothes that she could find to wear she seems to be wearing something that hugs her curves and apparently a bit too well, so not only does a man create this new member of voyager`s crew, but he also puts her in some nice sexy outfits, and then ask`s her out on a date, and i have to ask was this braga`s plan all along, but off course when seven of nine becomes now part of the crew all the men now seem to have there tongue out on the mere mention of her name, and i suppose if you had to become assimilated by the borg and being a man wouldn`t you want to have it done by the goddess that is seven of nine, and when i was watching seven`s and the one with the tattoo`s blossoming relationship i`m not sure that i was the only one that was jealous, and in real life jerry ryan is no doubt still one of the most beautiful ladies on the planet, and i was beyond thrilled to discover that she will now be starring on star trek picard.
Great vid... TY Sean.
7 should play a Rohan shield maiden......she has all the correct attributes, strong ,fullsome ,tall, blonde Nordic godess🤩🤩
You forgot number 11.
Seven is beautiful.
That was fun. Thanks!