What If all the Z Fighters did everything within their power to get stronger? Dragon balls, Kaioken, Guru, becoming Androids, Time chamber, Elder Kai, God Ki, Durbale Skin (Dr. Hedo). Literally everything
Honestly likely the case TBH. He thought *himself* unbeatable as Super Vegeta against Cell He thought *his* power released all at once could beat Buu. Vegeta is the king of overestimating himself and not foreseeing the growth of his enemies in response to his own strength.
@@Alovon well he *was* unbeaten by sf cell the gap was too wide I wouldn't blame him if he thought absorbing 18 would close the gap at all And vegeta's energy did indeed destroy buu into smithreens and Vegeta thought blowing him into pieces would work which was a logical conclusion because if that doesn't work, what else will?
Meerus sacrificing himself so that Earth can be saved and giving Goku the motivation he needed was unironically the most angelic thing an angel has done in DBS.
@@tiffanyroberts2979 These "some" enemies being: Zarbon Freeza (2 times at least, but correct me if you want) Android 18 Perfect Cell Fat Buu And this is just DBZ. There are even more in DBS, but I'm not going there.
Moro is actually a pretty cool villain stopping the saiyans transforming was a cool idea and a good way to balance them without just constantly having villains stronger per story.
I think the scene of Vegeta calling himself a villain makes sense, no matter how much he's changed since meeting Goku, that doesn't erase the countless lives he's taken over the years. The idea of Vegeta being doomed to go to hell, and ultimately being ok with it, is pretty tragic and cool in my opinion, the rare example of Dragon Ball having consequences.
Vegeta has long since redeemed his soul and become a good person. He isn't actually doomed to Hell, the fact that he feels that way is just a sign that he regrets his past actions.
The buu saga completely invalidates your comment. Vegeta does indeed go to hell after Majin Vegeta self-destructs, but after repenting and fighting alongside Goku to defeat Kid Buu his sins were forgiven. That's why when Porunga brought back to life all the good people on Earth, Vegeta got resurrected as well. Vegeta is canonically a pure person, but his dark past continues to haunt him on a psychological level.
That statement isn’t meant to be taken literally. It’s a representation about the guilt vegeta carries over his sins. It’s the deepest we’ve ever seen his character
@@TheMightySpurdo He can be good NOW, but it doesn't erase the stuff he did later. If he dies again we would find out for real if he goes to hell or not.
It's stated in the manga that Gokus entire time on Yardrat was spent learning how to become a Super Saiyan at will and then just enough time to learn Instant Transmission. That's why he didn't learn any other technique
He can already turn ssj at will during his fight with Frieza. Considering that he turn it off to base form when he loss interest in Frieza and was going to spare him. Then turn ssj again was Frieza refused to stop by firing KI at goku. So that's either BS or another retcon.
@@kiattim2100 I mean, he was probably rage filled at that time. Maybe he learned how to Turn SSJ without his rage, and then, learned to control the rage SSJ generates in the cell saga
@@kiattim2100 What Le-san said, but Goku himself also explicitly stated " At first I wasn't able to control it " when talking to Trunks in the android arc just before they both turn SSJ for each other if were going off the anime. I think in the manga he might have said something similar too as well. (that you can go check yourself, but true then it's confirmed he mastered it on Yardrat)
@@titanictnt7476 Goku is the same guy who can go years without seeing his friends even though he has the ability to use instant transmission and super speed. So I'm not surprised he doesn't go back and visit Yardratians. In GT (non canon) he went years without seeing bulma and vegeta, and in the beginning of super (canon) Bulma states its been ages since they last spoke and that he should come around more. And think about all of the other people Goku has met growing up in Dragonball that he hasn't seen in years just cause.
This is undoubtedly, objectively the best Arc in the entirety of Dragon Ball Super, brutal, decent writing, intense moments through and through, training to beat a new villain etc. Feels so much like DBZ and i love it to death.
@@chriswellz nope watched parts. Did the Moro sagaas it came out monthly if anything it’s closer to the freiza saga. I’m guessing you think that because og73 and moros powers but it’s the same stuff they’ve been recycling since og dragon ball not just the cell saga.
@@ClareAmel so you can’t name even one? Just because they say they can undo something with dragon balls lol? That’s been happening from the start. Androids magic regeneration space gangs after the dragon balls does not make it based on the cell saga.
Bro moro was an evil godly being, not a random nobody And EVEN THEN, Goku and Vegeta were stronger than Moro...its only Moro's magic that took the story forward I get what you're saying. DB has this problem of undermining a new transformation in the very next arc...but this arc didn't do so...this one was creative
I really, REALLY like what they’ve set up here with Uub. One of the biggest things to me that made Super feel weird, squeezed as it is between the Buu Arc and the End of Z, was Uub. At the end of Z, Goku was super excited to meet the reincarnation of Kid Buu, and much was made about his potential and power, making him a great student for Goku to teach as part of a new journey in his life. However, Super vastly reduced the importance of Kid Buu’s scale of power, by introducing the god forms, the Destroyers, and even mortals like Jiren, who are vastly more powerful than Kid Buu was at the time Goku fought him. It made me wonder “In this continuity, what about Uub would still interest Goku, after he’s been fighting Beerus and training with Whis?” Introducing the idea of Uub having the God ki that once belonged to the Kais absorbed by Buu, to me, changes Uub’s place in the universe. And it goes further than him just having *way* more potential than even Kid Buu, now that we know what the divinities can *really* do. Uub has potential to become a new god, and possibly one who’s better and kinder than some of the flawed and vengeful divinities we’ve seen in Super. Seeing Uub being guided by the Lord of Lords (in Buu’s shape) is a strong moment; it has this air of someone passing on his knowledge to the next generation. And with Uub having one foot in the realm of gods, there’s a lot Goku could teach him after learning from Whis, Beerus, and the others. I feel like this opens up a lot of potential for Uub’s story after Super crosses past the end of Z.
@@hojoade That would be cool, but would be a tad bit uneeded at this point given that we JUST got the granolah arc, and Granolah was basically Baby but with different powers and more depth as a character.
For me, I never understood the Buu stuff anyway, and this arc confused me even more. How does Majin Buu, one single entity, split in half after seeing the dog get shot (so presumably his power should be divded between 2 beings), absorb himself (so all the power going back to one entity), then continue to do that throughout an arc yet get progressively stronger? I get it when he absorbs outside people, as he's adding NEW power to himself, but by the end, we get another split with Kid Buu being reincarnated as Uub & base Majin Buu again? It's like all that power that began in one guy got divided up & reabsorbed so many times, only to somehow get stronger/then split again. Everything around Buu & his powers just always confused me. It also seems odd Moro was introduced in a similar way as Buu originally was, as like this planet eating devourer of worlds. If Uub has anywhere near that power, he still SHOULD be of interest to Goku, if only for how strong he is for his age. Goku may be more powerful than him at the end of Z when they get together, but compared to where Goku was at that age, Uub must look to have limitless potential.
@@corey2232 kid buu was the weakest buu, he was just the most unrestricted evil version, i have no idea how uub is so powerful when he's just the weakest buu but good and human though, his energy allowing goku to overcome moro doesn't really make much sense imo, as fat buu/the lord of lords should be stronger anyway
This arc is unexpectedly fun. I read ‘Super’ primarily to know the main plot, without really caring that they offer something exciting. But this arc just felt really good and satisfying, especially with all the retconned stuff. And the fact that Vegeta really shines as a ‘support class’ is so funny. Btw, you forgot to mention that they really make a joke of Goku grabbing someone’s junk.
Vegeta calling himself a villain isn't weird imo, good people are rare to call themselves good people because they are more likely to reflect on all the past harm they've done. Vegeta can't consider himself a good person, it feels wrong to consider himself anything other than a villain when he's caused so much suffering, it's basic empathy. You can see the same thing with Goku later, good people are rarely comfortable considering themselves as such. People who without a second thought call themselves a good person are usually the ones you have to look out for in my experience.
Not gonna lie, the Uub panel forced the dumbest grin out of my face... I know he's canon, but just seeing him in the source material, is ALWAYS a magical experience.
@@chamkeo2318 I think SS4 has been remodeled as "Wrathful" state in DBS Broly. They have the same description and brown eyes. That means Wrathful/SS4 pretty much equals SSG Blue (just shy), but can stack on SSJ, or LSS. I won't be surprised if Toriyama rewrites GT and make it better. Like he did for the non-canon movies where he plucks good elements and make it better.
The Moro arc is my favorite arc in super. I like how all the Z warriors were utilize, Gohan and Piccolo stepping up to defend Earth while Goku trains to master UI and Vegeta learning new techniques. Seeing the OG DB fighters protecting Earth with the Androids, even Uub in the end made this story impactful. to me this is the best way to make a story by involving old fighters and improving new fighters. I can hope the next cast of warriors like Trunks, Goten, Pan, Uub, and Bulla get strong development and add to the DBS lore
Moro arc is both my favorite and most hated. It's my favorite because it started so great and also ended great. Very consistent that it's Daikaioshin's powers that beat Moro in both times. I hate it so much because Toyotaro (or Toriyama, whoever made the decision) turned Moro into just another musclehead when he got younger and absorbed 73. They should have kept him goat-like as he looked more evil, and should have kept his magic. Sorcery was the best of his arsenal and he used it to toy with Goku and Vegeta to the brink of their deaths. It was as if they made Moro too powerful so they retconned him to a weak battlemage mid-arc. (Where are the magma blasts?) Such a waste. They really should have Vegeta learn more in his training so we can get a Magus Vegeta that can beat Moro. Anyway, Uub hyped me so much and I thought Goku was going to use Dragon Fish to finish off Moro. Haha. It would have been interesting if one of the pair (either Vegeta or Goku) trains under the Daikaioshin instead of Beerus, or perhaps Gohan? Sadly, Daikaioshin has returned back to Buu's unconscious.
now that uub has finally showed up in super and is known to have divine energy we might actually really get to see him train with goku and maybe sparr with trunks/goten since they seem about the same age
@@d421. The Granolah arc felt like its own thing. Felt different from Z and Super. In Super, most of the arcs are on a universial and galactic scale (Gods, tournament between different universes, galactic patrol prisoner, etc). But the Granolah arc felt more localized because it only took place on one planet, kinda like Namek.
I find it so weird how the Kai was this super powerful being here but Majin Buu was over powered by SS3. That doesnt make sense when that Buu already absorbed the Kai
@@hojoadethe Grand Kai became weaker by sealing Moro's magic, so it stands to reason that undoing that seal would return him his power. Also, Buu has been training. I don't know how strong he actually is, but they did plan on having him on the T.O.P. team.
I think the point of Vegeta never misreading an opponent's strength is true. He just continually overestimates his own power in comparison, leading him to being stomped on by people. This is actually the reason that his Ultra is named Ultra Ego. He has such an inflated Ego (even if he's been humbled multiple times) that he reads his own power as either equal to or superior to his opponent. This is backed up by the scene on Yardrat, where he couldn't properly gauge his own power because he didn't feel that he'd done enough training.
@Drip Goku To be fair he didn't really underestimate him because he had no way of knowing goku could instantly multiply his power beyond his own until it was basically too late
@Drip Goku Goku in the Saiyan Saga was of no threat to Vegeta in his base state. It wasn't until he began pulling out the Kaioken multipliers (that he would only activate for a moment, and Vegeta couldn't sense energy yet) that Vegeta began to show any signs of being hurt. That, and Vegeta still had access to his Oozaru form. Which would allow him to crush Goku if he felt like it at literally any moment, because Goku could barely go to Kaioken X4 without nearly killing himself.
Goku in the saiyan saga, zarbon in the frieza saga, frieza in the frieza saga, 18 in the cell saga, perfect cell in the cell saga and so on. Vegeta underestimates his opponents all the time and this line about him never underestimating an opponents strength is comically funny in a dumb way.
@@ryancarberry2040 thats still underestimating gokus strength in the saiyan saga. He underestimated gokus abilities to use moves such as kaloken and spirit bomb.
This is my favourite arc solely due to the fact that they didn't just make a villain randomly appear who is more powerful than Goku and Vegeta. They got someone who at most was the level of Cell (ironic) and brought the other fighters down to his level while raising his own with Ki that he never had access to in his youth. He feels more realistic and well placed, and ties in a lot of older concepts that were never concluded or extended apon (the Yardrats, the "lord of lords" inside Buu, the androids having no Ki, etc). My only problem with the series is how they keep dumbing down Goku. It would be nice to see him take things seriously and return to his roots. The guy who took less risks and saw the importance of the spiritual, strategic and mental side of fighting, not just winning by "being a beefcake who hits harder than you do"
Goku does go throught a lot of develoments in this arc thanks to Merus, maybe not as much development like vegeta had but still develoment with his UI and how to fully become MUI and fight for those he care about and carry on Merus’s ideals of protecting the innocent
@@purgeblue development in power is not the same as emotional and mental development. He's still the same dumbass with a rapidly decreasing IQ as he was at the start of Super. Until the buu saga started he was an extremely intelligent fighter. Buu saga kinda put that at a hold (understandably considering he was absent for half of it) but Super hasn't given him a single show of intellect since it started. I miss Goku being the smarter fighter, not the stronger one
@@dawsonwarren1121 Eh, in the manga both of those fights are different, (He doesn't even fight Kefla in the manga, Gohan does) and his attitude during both are different as well.
A small note, but to be honest, Goku knowing about the technique of Forced Spirit Fission could be better off not being canon, but imo, it's still reasonable and can fit into the narrative, since Goku doesn't really care much for weakening his opponents and would rather face them at their strongest, which has always been his most tragic flaw, which also pushes him to new heights.
Well he also skipped where Goku says he didn't have time to learn it and Vegeta brags he's got more natural talent and learned it in half the time Goku could have
It can be written off as: - On Yardrat Goku heard about the technique but focused on Instant Transmission and mastering SSJ - After going back to Earth, he forgets. His mind is focused on training for the androids - Over time he simply forgot. No one's gonna remember every tiny detail 24/7 - When Vegetable used it, he remembered and called it out
Alright I have a theory, Goku knows how to do the technique. But never uses it, but what if he taught it to someone who is wise enough to use it. GOHAN. I know that the impact to Cell was strong, but I think that since he ABSOREBED THE androids like Moro would use magic- Cell would use His tail. So maybe Gohan was using Forced Spirit Fission to knock 18 out of Cell. Like I said, just a theory
What I like about the ultra instinct transformation is that it initially looks like another rage-induced powerup, but then Goku calms himself down and reminisces about his lost friend. A transformation out of love, not angst. Seeing stuff like that makes me realise, it's nice how far these characters have come.
I like to think he learned his lesson from fighting broly, in the super broly movie you can see his hair briefly change into MUI while hes transforming out of his SSG form, but hes too emotional to lock into the MUI form so hes forced to settle for SSB
I started reading the DBS manga around the time this arc was wrapping up, and I was genuinly surprised at the amount of hatred that the senzu bean moment caused for this arc. People were pretending like that single moment somehow ruined the ENTIRE arc. Personally i thought the senzu bean moment was badass, but either way, people made it seem much worse than it was. I think this is one of the best arcs in the franchise, I like it a little more than the Tournament of Power tbh.
@@jantheking7028the hate is valid tho, ppl have been making fun of that decision for YEARS calling goku dumb when he did the same thing with cell so toriyama re-doing the same thing again after all this just shows how he doesn't listen
@@a.n.e.s..z8803 The hate for the senzu bean moment in the moro arc is definitely not valid. Goku giving Moro the senzu bean isn't similar to goku giving cell a senzu bean. When Goku gave Cell a senzu bean, Cell was the strongest person on the planet and no one could stop him. It was pretty dumb for Goku to fully heal Cell, especially because Cell wasn't even asking for the senzu bean, Goku just gave it to him just because. Sure, Goku was hopeful that Gohan would unlock his inner powers while fighting Cell, but there was obviously no way for goku to be 100% sure that Gohan's inner powers could awaken before Cell decides to blow up the planet. With Moro its different. First of all, Moro actually begged for mercy, unlike Cell, which makes it more reasonable for Goku to give Moro a bean in comparison to just giving it to Cell for no reason other than "I want the fight to be fair". In addition, Goku was far and away the strongest mortal in the universe at the time he gave Moro the senzu bean. Goku knew that even at full power, he could easily handle Moro again, which is EXACTLY what happened anyways: Goku gives Moro a senzu bean, and then beats Moro down again to the point Moro is begging for mercy again. This is different from with Cell, because when Goku gave Cell the senzu bean, no one on the entire planet was capable of beating a full power cell at that moment. Also, Goku giving Moro a senzu bean is actually themaically fitting with Goku's character arc in the moro saga. Merus spent most of the arc teaching Goku about what true justice is, and he even admired how Goku spared so many of his enemies in the past. So it makes sense that Goku would give Moro another chance out of respect for Merus and due to the sense of justice he had developed in the arc, unlike giving Cell a senzu bean.
@@smilelydogge2821 well in both situations that decision back fired horribly which led to almost destroying the earth and killing everyone on it so even if goku was 100% stronger than moro he's not far sighted and does things without considering the huge danger they might cause later also saying it wouldn't be justice if he killed moro is kind of wrong since moro willingly fought goku and everyone else and threatened to absorb the earth or smth so him begging for mercy was so dumb since he BROUGHT it upon himself and the most logical thing is to kill him immediately instead of giving him another chance especially after considering the fact he's not there to have a play date but to kill everyone that's alive which means giving him that senzu bean is like putting everyone's life at risk for your own reasons which is simply wrong
I love it when you resume and explain the things that happen in the anime/manga in a fraction of the time the original material takes, definitely looking up to this! =]
I think I heard somewhere, like a comment that talked about how Toyotoro (misspelling his name) said the Saga won’t be animated. I’m not sure, I think even the comment said he doesn’t know where that comment cam from. So I don’t know really
Fun Fact: Cranberry actually did appear in the Namek Saga (He was the guy Zarbon kicked in the pond during the assault where Gohan and Krillin met Dende)
Literally the best arc in entire Dragon Ball Super. Not rushed, had some best moments when Meerus sacrificed himself, Goku attained a new power got bigger, Vegeta protected the people of Namek, Goku & Vegeta had their separate training arcs, Meerus did came back but still had an emotional impact on the story, all the z fighters were significantly involved in the story, basically it was everything reminding me how good dragon Ball Z was. Overall: 9/10 Literally the best arc in Dragon Ball Super 🙂.
@Kidcool1254 Im assuming because of Toriyamas tragic passing (RIP) a new season of dbs would he far away. Where did you find this information? Im not doubting you, just curious because I haven't heard any news on dbs yet.
@@O_and_ONE well after the web series ends many assumed that super will come out but with the passing of the author super will most likely come out between next year or 2026
Goku's denial of being a hero actually makes sense because he simply just does not see himself as one, neither does he do those good things intending to be one. He just didn't really want innocent people, especially his friends, getting hurt. Like what he said, his attitude simply coincides with the heroics he ended up doing.
I’m so tired of this bs argument. Being a hero doesn’t necessarily mean that you are always gallantly racing to help anyone. It simply means that you do what is right and protect others when you do not have to. Goku does that quite often. Goku could have just went back to his little house in the woods once things began getting tough in original Dragon Ball. He could’ve stopped caring about helping Bulma and just tried to fight strong foes as the dragon balls were abused. But he didn’t. He fought those who sought to abuse their great power. And he saved Earth from the Demon Clan. Later, Goku also fought against the Saiyans who sought to destroy his home, and he traveled far just to revive his friends and help the universe. Since then, he’s prepared for each and every threat that he’s known was coming, and has fought against each of them. None of this could’ve been done without him. Goku is selfish sometimes. And sure, he is reckless and stupid quite often. But this doesn’t make him any less of a hero. Goku fights against villains and protects the little people. He has destructive power but never abuses the people of Earth, even when he has money problems or is in a fit of rage. Goku is a hero. And I’m tired of everyone pretending that he isn’t just because he likes fighting.
@@Doomzdeh The question you are asking is "Is Goku a hero?" with the answer being "He is". The question we are discussing is "Does Goku think about himself as one?" with the answer being "No. He doesn't." Hell, you literally just saw it yourself - the difference between how Goku sees himself and how others do.... Do you really not get it?
12:06 No, it's just how it is worded. When Freeza called the Ginyu force for backup on Namek, he interrupted the Ginyu force from "processing" the Yardratians and their world. Then, at the end of the arc, Goku gets into one of Ginyu's pods and hits last destination which was Yardrat (or next destination, which is also Yardrat).
True, though, to be fair, Bonyu exists, so we know there were more than five Ginyu Force members at one point. Speaking of which, I'm surprised we haven't seen her outside of the Kakarot game.
The final battles with moro makes me realise how smart he is with all his tactics to leave no way for them to win like creating the barrier or eating 73 he's (imo) one of the smartest villains
He is probably the second smartest villain after Zamasu. Moro left nothing to chance in his plan, whereas Zamasu left a LOT to chance and STILL basically won. Zamasu knew of stronger beings than Goku, yet he decided to steal Goku's body just so he could make himself a symbol of the god's failures. In other words, Zamasu was too cocky. Zamasu was still pretty smart tho. He was okay with killing all the gods, but he was smart enough to know not to mess with Zeno or the Grand Priest. And in the DBS manga after Zamasu becomes infinite Zamasu, when Zeno shows up all the Zamasu's try to run away. Even when there is INFINITY Zamasus, they know not to mess with Zeno or do something dumb like trying to kill him or switch bodies with him. Moro's plan was a lot more simple, but it was more calculated. So if I had to rank intelligence of DBS villains, Moro and Zamasu might be around equal, but I'd give the edge to Zamasu. Cell is up there too tho, his saiyan genetics caused his downfall, that's not his fault, he was just born like that.
Moro's character design is extremely well done! I'll definitely be scared fighting a half-man and half-goat being. Reminds me of the legend of the goat man
I ain't gone lie Vegeta and Gohan impressed me the most in this arc. Vegeta showed a lot of development on namek when he went out his way to save the kid. He even went to yardrat to learn spirit control and forced spirit fission which was dope af. But gohan didn't do as much but when he fought against og73 he showed some real skill. That energy shield he used, jumping on ki blast that even using gotenks galactic donut technique was dope to me. I know a lot of ppl looked over gohan in this arc but he definitely showed some skill. Can't wait to see gohan n vegeta fights in this arc once its animated
17:34 I always had the suspicion that Zeno couldn't erase angels. Not only were they exempt from erasure during the Tournament of Power, they are the only beings to never show any fear of Zeno. My headcanon is that Zeno's actually a destroyer above all other destroyers, and Grand Minister is his angel. I think there's likely one god above Zeno, as even Zeno stood for the summoning of Super Shenron, who could apparently "do anything at all".
i think its awesome the super dragon balls easily revived multiple universes and their entire populations. I wonder if they can use it to restore trunks timeline, but iirc, zeno specifically erased the entire timeline, not just the universe
@@sugondeez1708 I mean, in this arc they said that Namekians came from "another dimension". So it could be that Zalama (creator of the super dragon balls) was the ultimate Namekian, or maybe their progenitor (since Namekians spit out eggs). As such Zalama, Zeno, and the grand priest could be in a special tier above the multi-verse we know about.
The reason angels were not erased in the tornament of power is because they are the children of the grand priest who made sure they were not erased and they fear zeno but just doesnt show it since thats how their personality is And the reason zeno stood up when the super dragon balls were summoned was because they were getting ready to wipe the 7th universe if 17 wished for the cruise
As someone who doesn't read the anime and has been waiting on some context to the new stuff going on, thank you very much for making this video. I really enjoyed it!
Just finished reading this arc last night and your recap made me cry! I loved hearing all the music throughout the video, and I loved seeing so many colored-in panels! Thank you for all your hard work on this, I'll definitely have to watch your recap of the Granolah arc as soon as I finish that one, too!
I am fine with Vegeta's "I am still a villain" line, it's representative of how he hasn't forgiven himself, just like his regrets over the namekians. It's not meant to show he still has evil intent or anything stupid like that.
I'm okay with it. But i find it confusing that he expects to be sent to hell when a deity like porunga has already given him conformation of a good afterlife. And he's only added to his case.
I think Vegeta likes being a villain in a good way by killing his enemies or anyone who causes harm. thats why I think he considers himself the bad guy.
Honestly, Moro being able to find the dragon balls doesn't really feel farfetched. Seeing as he is adept with magic, he should recognize other kinds of magic
I was thinking he could feel items' chi or vibration as well. Bulma has a detector of Dragon Ball. It's obviously waves related. Moro seems to be an expert at it. Doesn't seem surprising.
@Ты клоун gimme some time I’ll come up with something. That’s not arrogance btw I’d literally rewrite parts of the story to how I’d normally write something but even if I do there’s gonna be some people who most likely not like my version.
@@marlom7882 Exactly, there's gonna be some people like you who would say: "Meh, it could've been better" That's how the arc was. If the arc wasn't complete trash, then we shouldn't complain. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion the arc was amazing. Same with the Granolah arc.
Moro's magic and ki-absorption gimmick was really fun to see. Magic is HORRIBLY underutilized in DB in general, and I wish that they would expand more on it. Also, his initial design goes SO FUCKING HARD. It was unique, cool, and really great in general. Shame that by the time that he absorbed Seven-Three, he started looking like a generic DB villain.
@@Spade90 How is that being a sore loser? Moro basically spent the time skip increasing his powers and made sure to store a backup of them in 73 in case things went wrong. It was a contingency plan 🤦♂
honestly yeah would've prefered if we kept the goat design and the calm personality instead of him turning out like every other dragon ball villain and devolving into mindless insanity in a tantrum about losing
yeah, cool initial design, looked arrogant the entire time. He's like a mad scientist, wanting to see his opponents abilities before he stole them. The few annoyances being his obsession with making fodder minions for the heroes to fight (though it shows off his sadistic nature), and his design changing to look more like 73 rather than himself.
Bro thanks a million for making this, b/c ain't no way I'd read all of this... the animations were SSS bro, DO keep this going, and YES I subscribed lmao, solid!
it doesn't seem like a parallel when things just happen beat for beat the same way they did in the cell saga regardless of if the characters know better or not
Same beats done differently enough to feel like homages/parallels more than anything imo. Don't let the running joke of the counter take away from it doing stuff well!
I think this is probably the best arc so far because it feels like dragon ball Z. Probably my favorite is the inner workings of ultra instinct, all this time Goku and others have had to fall back on their rage and anger whenever they needed to achieve a new form. Ultra instinct is in direct contrast with that, needing a clear, unemotional mind, forcing Goku to unlearn his way of transforming for the past several years. It's one of those character journey's that feels like an obvious next step, but I still was interested by.
lowkey angel like Merus fighting against his fate for what he loves was nice. Art and story telling was so much like cell saga but I enjoyed it more than I thought. Read this arc like 30+ times lol
I love this video, shared it with a friend. One thing I’ll say is that with the Ginyu’s attacking Yardrat it appears they are referring to a point in time before Goku defeated them on Namek. Vegeta heard they attacked “here” through being an ex frieza force member
The character - goku, has inspired lots of people. I like him a lot so I decided to create a statue of him using cement, if you are a fan of him then I believe you will like it.
@hassan Zahid Granolah was definitely better than Moro. Between Goku and Granolah's first fight, Toyotarou's improved art and paneling, Black Frieza epic moment and Ultra Ego, Granolah arc definitely takes the win over Moro arc.
The part about fighting with Angels full power is the only they can die, I think that's more so the only way an Angel can naturally die - rather than the only way they can die in general. So Zeno can kill the angels and probably has with the other angels from the previous universes. Otherwise Zeno wouldn't really be needed and the Grand Priest would be the highest power in the multiverse.
@@reallyhimongod i swear he is. Remember he created the ToP in the palm of his hands without trying, the father of all angels, top 5 stronegest fighter in the multiverse makes me wonder if hes the real God of the verse lol
@@TorchzLive Yeah lol I still like the theory of Grand Priest being the real king of all through this pattern G.O.D are masters, but are actually weaker than their servant which are Angels Zeno = G.O.D Grand Priest = Angel That kind of theory/pattern
Bro you should really just make an entire series of your reading the mangas. I’d watch them all repeatedly. Never been able to gain access to them so this was perfect. Best 35 minutes I’ve spent on UA-cam for sure.
I’m mad late, but I just finished reading through this arc today, and I gotta say, I think it might be one of my favorite arcs in DBS. Moro was a very intriguing villain to me. Him going around devouring planets reminded me of Galactus from Marvel Comics, and his magic abilities were interesting. That scene were he impaled Goku through the chest legitimately horrified me. Merus was also a highlight of this arc. Had a feeling he had some kind of connection to the Angels, but seeing it revealed, his sacrifice and bond with Goku made him a great character. I loved how the utilized some of the OG characters that don’t get much action these days, and enjoyed the extended lore with the Kaioshins and Buu. I loved Vegeta’s determination to atone for his past actions on Namek, but I didn’t like how they regressed him to be all like “I just wanna surpass Kakarot” again, and call himself a villain when he hasn’t been one since Majin Vegeta. Finally, I thought Goku giving Moro the senzu just to make him break his own arm by trying that impaling move again was such a huge flex. Absolutely badass.
I prefer the Granolah arc mostly because I like Granolah as a character more than Moro. I also enjoy the addition of new lore, and backstory to Bardock.
Merus was the best character from the arc. I hope he has some other character defining arc that gives him his angel status back. Like another sacrificial event. Something that makes the high angel see that he’s there to help
It's nice to see Vegeta finally able to calmly acknowledge when an opponent is stronger than him/he is outmatched. For him, that's a lot of character development from the prideful and genocidal Saiyan prince we once knew him as.
GOKU, YOU DUMB@SS YOU RISKED THE UNIVERSE JUST TO FIGHT MORO LIKE A EARTHLING THERE IS JUST TO MANY THINGS WRONG. 1:Goku isn't from earth. 2:WHY give a villan a zenkai boost?! 3:With Moro's zenkai boost and full power he could've closed the gap between him. 4:YOU TRIED THIS SAME SH!T WHITH CELL AND HE ALMOST KILLED EVERYONE NOW THERES A PLANET EATING MONSTER INFRONT OF YOU AND YOUR GIVING HIM A BEAN?!
Man this was such a cool arc for Dragon Ball Super the introduction of Moro, Merus, Vegeta mastering new techniques, Goku finally mastering Ultra Instinct great stuff.
This was a beautiful arc. It felt very Dragonball but still had everything that makes Dragonball great. This Arc and Villain are like a culmination of every in universe threat Goku and Vegeta have faced and it took every trick and tactic they could think of to win without Xeno and they still needed divine interference which was also great to see because Merus a divine being was so moved by justice he relinquished his own stature to motivate a guy that inspired him. This is a hidden gem and you explained it really well. Thank you.
I’m only 8 minutes through and I love how you’ve said “final confrontation” twice already despite there being another 27 minutes to the video 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for making! It’s great content 💜
Correct me if I'm wrong but...the Ginyu force that terrorizes Yardrat is the same that we seen in DBZ. Goku jumps in one of their pods when Namek is about to explode and the pod takes him there because it's already a registered coordinate.
Ginyu force was on King Kais planet after they died, and the z fighters who were also training with King Kai beat them. So no, they couldn't be the Ginyu force we see in Namek.
@@JONTHEWHEREHOG nope it's not filler at all my dear friend it did happened In the manga too and all of the Ginyu force rushes towards namek to assist Frieza to deal some monkey pest... Capt.Ginyu: Frieza I have the up to date scouters. Frieza:with my new ringtone? Capt. Ginyu: yes my Lord Frieza:Fantasic of you go and hunt those monkeys (Ginyu force left)....(plays ringtone) *beep* FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZA!!. Tfs reference
thank you very much for this. there was so much context that you provided in this video that I wasn't even aware of when reviewers were putting up videos about this manga back when this was coming out. pretty cool to see the whole story this time around.
This is by far going to be the best arc in the anime when it’s finally done. All the events are so great as long as some better dialogue choices are made
Forced spirit fission only works by causing damage like Moro said, which is why Vegeta can't use on him if Moro keeps dodging. But that should also mean that fusing to Gogeta or Vegito could still work if they completely outclass Moro.
@@damienmitchell3104 Yea but fusions Never get the job done, technically broly for wished away before gogeta could kill him, but u could argue maybe gogeta would of tried to knock him out but not kill him because the Goku half would want to fight him again
The thing is, Moro would only need to land 1-3 hits for forced spirit fission to trigger, unless Gogeta or Vegito gained access to Ultra Instinct, which is definitely possible, but there would be no time to accomplish fusing and MUI at the pace the fight was going
@@moneyworld7517 forced spirit fission only works on opponents that are fused or gain power through absorption Granolah and Gas didn’t absorb anyone, they just wished to be extremely powerful by default.
It's FINALLY here! Enjoy the entire Moro Arc in a single video while you wait for an anime version to be made. Thank you all for your support!
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Thank you. Hope you make a review for both the Granolah saga & Superhero movie. I just finished finally watching it.
I doubt there will be a Moro anime and granolah anime since they are seperate from the new movie
What If all the Z Fighters did everything within their power to get stronger? Dragon balls, Kaioken, Guru, becoming Androids, Time chamber, Elder Kai, God Ki, Durbale Skin (Dr. Hedo). Literally everything
Vegeta NEVER misreads his opponent's strength! He just... horrifyingly misreads his OWN strength!
Honestly likely the case TBH.
He thought *himself* unbeatable as Super Vegeta against Cell
He thought *his* power released all at once could beat Buu.
Vegeta is the king of overestimating himself and not foreseeing the growth of his enemies in response to his own strength.
@@Alovon well he *was* unbeaten by sf cell the gap was too wide
I wouldn't blame him if he thought absorbing 18 would close the gap at all
And vegeta's energy did indeed destroy buu into smithreens and Vegeta thought blowing him into pieces would work which was a logical conclusion because if that doesn't work, what else will?
Yeah, that would be accurate...
he is the perfect representation of the "you might be stronger than me, but your not stronger then me" personality.
@@Alovon you'd think he'd learn his lesson after getting killed by Freeza and having Cell kick his ass six ways to Sunday
Meerus sacrificing himself so that Earth can be saved and giving Goku the motivation he needed was unironically the most angelic thing an angel has done in DBS.
And also the reason he's now in my top 3 angels
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That's why Merus is the goat
@@realdanshi fax
I mean Wiz did save earth as well. He rewind time so that goku can one shot Friza
“Vegeta has never misread an opponent” just like how Vegeta is so humble and pure-hearted
I would say it’s more so he overestimates himself due to his Ego so I actually agree with Piccolo
Piccolo is a fan who skipped most of z and only watched the final battles
@@sincere0727 exactly, but he has still misread some enemies’ power
Ah... Piccolo's new transformation: Sarcastic Piccolo.
@@tiffanyroberts2979 These "some" enemies being:
Zarbon
Freeza (2 times at least, but correct me if you want)
Android 18
Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
And this is just DBZ. There are even more in DBS, but I'm not going there.
0:19 “their date gets interrupted” 💀💀💀
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69 likes. Time to ruin it
Moro is actually a pretty cool villain stopping the saiyans transforming was a cool idea and a good way to balance them without just constantly having villains stronger per story.
@ZaykaZay Shorts first second reply
@ZaykaZay Shorts *yes, that's why he's the first second reply.*
And theeeen he turned into discount cell.
@ZaykaZay Shorts wow, you’re an NPC. How can you argue that you’re first let alone being first on someone else’s reply. Get a life
@@daequancage1714 first second third fourth fifth sixth seventh reply
I think the scene of Vegeta calling himself a villain makes sense, no matter how much he's changed since meeting Goku, that doesn't erase the countless lives he's taken over the years. The idea of Vegeta being doomed to go to hell, and ultimately being ok with it, is pretty tragic and cool in my opinion, the rare example of Dragon Ball having consequences.
Vegeta has long since redeemed his soul and become a good person. He isn't actually doomed to Hell, the fact that he feels that way is just a sign that he regrets his past actions.
The buu saga completely invalidates your comment. Vegeta does indeed go to hell after Majin Vegeta self-destructs, but after repenting and fighting alongside Goku to defeat Kid Buu his sins were forgiven. That's why when Porunga brought back to life all the good people on Earth, Vegeta got resurrected as well.
Vegeta is canonically a pure person, but his dark past continues to haunt him on a psychological level.
That statement isn’t meant to be taken literally. It’s a representation about the guilt vegeta carries over his sins. It’s the deepest we’ve ever seen his character
@@MKfan888 yup. And he finally lets this guilt go in the granolah arc to make it all come full circle
@@TheMightySpurdo He can be good NOW, but it doesn't erase the stuff he did later. If he dies again we would find out for real if he goes to hell or not.
It's stated in the manga that Gokus entire time on Yardrat was spent learning how to become a Super Saiyan at will and then just enough time to learn Instant Transmission. That's why he didn't learn any other technique
He can already turn ssj at will during his fight with Frieza. Considering that he turn it off to base form when he loss interest in Frieza and was going to spare him. Then turn ssj again was Frieza refused to stop by firing KI at goku.
So that's either BS or another retcon.
@@kiattim2100 I mean, he was probably rage filled at that time. Maybe he learned how to Turn SSJ without his rage, and then, learned to control the rage SSJ generates in the cell saga
@@kiattim2100 What Le-san said, but Goku himself also explicitly stated " At first I wasn't able to control it " when talking to Trunks in the android arc just before they both turn SSJ for each other if were going off the anime. I think in the manga he might have said something similar too as well. (that you can go check yourself, but true then it's confirmed he mastered it on Yardrat)
He asked why Goku didn't go back to learn Forced Spirit Fission after fighting Cell or Buu.
@@titanictnt7476 Goku is the same guy who can go years without seeing his friends even though he has the ability to use instant transmission and super speed. So I'm not surprised he doesn't go back and visit Yardratians. In GT (non canon) he went years without seeing bulma and vegeta, and in the beginning of super (canon) Bulma states its been ages since they last spoke and that he should come around more. And think about all of the other people Goku has met growing up in Dragonball that he hasn't seen in years just cause.
You put so much work into this. I love the sound effects, the way the panels fly around, the diversity in the panels you use. You're fantastic!
It makes it even more exciting
Naw it makes it easier to go through the story and not get bored
This is undoubtedly, objectively the best Arc in the entirety of Dragon Ball Super, brutal, decent writing, intense moments through and through, training to beat a new villain etc. Feels so much like DBZ and i love it to death.
@Shiokyuri how’s it based off the cell saga?
@@henryk1031 Did you even watch the video to see the more than several parallels to the cell saga?
@@chriswellz nope watched parts. Did the Moro sagaas it came out monthly if anything it’s closer to the freiza saga. I’m guessing you think that because og73 and moros powers but it’s the same stuff they’ve been recycling since og dragon ball not just the cell saga.
@@henryk1031 You should sit down and watch more than just parts. It’s pretty undeniable how many parallels there are with the Cell Saga.
@@ClareAmel so you can’t name even one? Just because they say they can undo something with dragon balls lol? That’s been happening from the start. Androids magic regeneration space gangs after the dragon balls does not make it based on the cell saga.
Dragon Ball logic: Hero becomes a god. 6 months later, random NPC easily defeats them.
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crazy how this was also made 6 months ago
There's always a bigger fish
Bro moro was an evil godly being, not a random nobody
And EVEN THEN, Goku and Vegeta were stronger than Moro...its only Moro's magic that took the story forward
I get what you're saying. DB has this problem of undermining a new transformation in the very next arc...but this arc didn't do so...this one was creative
@@souptikchakraborty2004 think he talking about Merus
I really, REALLY like what they’ve set up here with Uub.
One of the biggest things to me that made Super feel weird, squeezed as it is between the Buu Arc and the End of Z, was Uub. At the end of Z, Goku was super excited to meet the reincarnation of Kid Buu, and much was made about his potential and power, making him a great student for Goku to teach as part of a new journey in his life. However, Super vastly reduced the importance of Kid Buu’s scale of power, by introducing the god forms, the Destroyers, and even mortals like Jiren, who are vastly more powerful than Kid Buu was at the time Goku fought him. It made me wonder “In this continuity, what about Uub would still interest Goku, after he’s been fighting Beerus and training with Whis?”
Introducing the idea of Uub having the God ki that once belonged to the Kais absorbed by Buu, to me, changes Uub’s place in the universe. And it goes further than him just having *way* more potential than even Kid Buu, now that we know what the divinities can *really* do. Uub has potential to become a new god, and possibly one who’s better and kinder than some of the flawed and vengeful divinities we’ve seen in Super. Seeing Uub being guided by the Lord of Lords (in Buu’s shape) is a strong moment; it has this air of someone passing on his knowledge to the next generation. And with Uub having one foot in the realm of gods, there’s a lot Goku could teach him after learning from Whis, Beerus, and the others.
I feel like this opens up a lot of potential for Uub’s story after Super crosses past the end of Z.
Baby would be cool to see in super. Or would he be more suited for Magic?
@@hojoade That would be cool, but would be a tad bit uneeded at this point given that we JUST got the granolah arc, and Granolah was basically Baby but with different powers and more depth as a character.
For me, I never understood the Buu stuff anyway, and this arc confused me even more.
How does Majin Buu, one single entity, split in half after seeing the dog get shot (so presumably his power should be divded between 2 beings), absorb himself (so all the power going back to one entity), then continue to do that throughout an arc yet get progressively stronger?
I get it when he absorbs outside people, as he's adding NEW power to himself, but by the end, we get another split with Kid Buu being reincarnated as Uub & base Majin Buu again? It's like all that power that began in one guy got divided up & reabsorbed so many times, only to somehow get stronger/then split again.
Everything around Buu & his powers just always confused me. It also seems odd Moro was introduced in a similar way as Buu originally was, as like this planet eating devourer of worlds. If Uub has anywhere near that power, he still SHOULD be of interest to Goku, if only for how strong he is for his age. Goku may be more powerful than him at the end of Z when they get together, but compared to where Goku was at that age, Uub must look to have limitless potential.
@@corey2232 kid buu was the weakest buu, he was just the most unrestricted evil version, i have no idea how uub is so powerful when he's just the weakest buu but good and human though, his energy allowing goku to overcome moro doesn't really make much sense imo, as fat buu/the lord of lords should be stronger anyway
@@dankerbellKid Buu is not the weakest buu. OG fat buu was weaker and so was Pure evil.
This arc is unexpectedly fun. I read ‘Super’ primarily to know the main plot, without really caring that they offer something exciting. But this arc just felt really good and satisfying, especially with all the retconned stuff. And the fact that Vegeta really shines as a ‘support class’ is so funny. Btw, you forgot to mention that they really make a joke of Goku grabbing someone’s junk.
I loved it a lot. It gave a lot of Satan Saga vibes. I certainly loved it more than the tournament of power arc personally. Just my opinion.
Moro feeling Goku looking for his Ki is honestly one of the most badass villain moments in DB and has the potential to become a classic moment
what
Fact. Loved it too.
Too bad they didn't make a true menace out of Moro.
this whole arc is giving me massive DBZ vibes for some reason
@@pray4angel its a better cell arc and honestly i loved it.
@@yumyumsauz it isnt.
Vegeta calling himself a villain isn't weird imo, good people are rare to call themselves good people because they are more likely to reflect on all the past harm they've done. Vegeta can't consider himself a good person, it feels wrong to consider himself anything other than a villain when he's caused so much suffering, it's basic empathy. You can see the same thing with Goku later, good people are rarely comfortable considering themselves as such.
People who without a second thought call themselves a good person are usually the ones you have to look out for in my experience.
Exactly
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Not gonna lie, the Uub panel forced the dumbest grin out of my face... I know he's canon, but just seeing him in the source material, is ALWAYS a magical experience.
i literally had to pause the video and just sat there smiling ear to ear
Me smiling hoping that super saiyan 4 will be canon
@@chamkeo2318 i wish beast gohan was just him in the super saiyan 4 design that would've been so cool
@@chamkeo2318 na there’s no point now also they can’t anyway coz they don’t have their tails
@@chamkeo2318 I think SS4 has been remodeled as "Wrathful" state in DBS Broly. They have the same description and brown eyes. That means Wrathful/SS4 pretty much equals SSG Blue (just shy), but can stack on SSJ, or LSS. I won't be surprised if Toriyama rewrites GT and make it better. Like he did for the non-canon movies where he plucks good elements and make it better.
Goku: "D-did you just use instant transmission?"
Vegeta: "Well yes, but actually no."
The Moro arc is my favorite arc in super. I like how all the Z warriors were utilize, Gohan and Piccolo stepping up to defend Earth while Goku trains to master UI and Vegeta learning new techniques. Seeing the OG DB fighters protecting Earth with the Androids, even Uub in the end made this story impactful. to me this is the best way to make a story by involving old fighters and improving new fighters. I can hope the next cast of warriors like Trunks, Goten, Pan, Uub, and Bulla get strong development and add to the DBS lore
Exactly 💯....It's My Favorite as well...
Moro arc is both my favorite and most hated. It's my favorite because it started so great and also ended great. Very consistent that it's Daikaioshin's powers that beat Moro in both times. I hate it so much because Toyotaro (or Toriyama, whoever made the decision) turned Moro into just another musclehead when he got younger and absorbed 73. They should have kept him goat-like as he looked more evil, and should have kept his magic. Sorcery was the best of his arsenal and he used it to toy with Goku and Vegeta to the brink of their deaths. It was as if they made Moro too powerful so they retconned him to a weak battlemage mid-arc. (Where are the magma blasts?) Such a waste. They really should have Vegeta learn more in his training so we can get a Magus Vegeta that can beat Moro. Anyway, Uub hyped me so much and I thought Goku was going to use Dragon Fish to finish off Moro. Haha. It would have been interesting if one of the pair (either Vegeta or Goku) trains under the Daikaioshin instead of Beerus, or perhaps Gohan? Sadly, Daikaioshin has returned back to Buu's unconscious.
It's the worse for me simply cause it was Cell 2.0.
@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 i agree.
now that uub has finally showed up in super and is known to have divine energy we might actually really get to see him train with goku and maybe sparr with trunks/goten since they seem about the same age
This arc honestly feels more like Z than Super
It felt like a Z movie not none of the arcs in Z and the second half of the arc is basically resurrection of f but improved.
Then you have to read granola arc that arc is the best one from super
@@d421. The Granolah arc felt like its own thing. Felt different from Z and Super. In Super, most of the arcs are on a universial and galactic scale (Gods, tournament between different universes, galactic patrol prisoner, etc). But the Granolah arc felt more localized because it only took place on one planet, kinda like Namek.
@@kamisama811 it felt like good z film like janemba and broly not that shit like bio broly or android 13
It feels more like Z because it’s retelling the Cell arc, just with different a different villain
I love how goku and vegeta are essentially buddy cops at this point. To think there was a time where all vegeta wanted to do was kill goku
This arc felt like a combination of Saiyan Arc , Namek Arc, Cell arc and Majin Buu arc .
I find it so weird how the Kai was this super powerful being here but Majin Buu was over powered by SS3. That doesnt make sense when that Buu already absorbed the Kai
@@hojoadethe Grand Kai became weaker by sealing Moro's magic, so it stands to reason that undoing that seal would return him his power. Also, Buu has been training. I don't know how strong he actually is, but they did plan on having him on the T.O.P. team.
It was more cell saga tbh.
yes those 3 combined with the old demon picollo arc from dragonball 🔥🔥
As in Toriyama is running out of ideas and throwing shit people liked together
I think the point of Vegeta never misreading an opponent's strength is true.
He just continually overestimates his own power in comparison, leading him to being stomped on by people. This is actually the reason that his Ultra is named Ultra Ego. He has such an inflated Ego (even if he's been humbled multiple times) that he reads his own power as either equal to or superior to his opponent.
This is backed up by the scene on Yardrat, where he couldn't properly gauge his own power because he didn't feel that he'd done enough training.
@Drip Goku To be fair he didn't really underestimate him because he had no way of knowing goku could instantly multiply his power beyond his own until it was basically too late
@Drip Goku Goku in the Saiyan Saga was of no threat to Vegeta in his base state. It wasn't until he began pulling out the Kaioken multipliers (that he would only activate for a moment, and Vegeta couldn't sense energy yet) that Vegeta began to show any signs of being hurt.
That, and Vegeta still had access to his Oozaru form. Which would allow him to crush Goku if he felt like it at literally any moment, because Goku could barely go to Kaioken X4 without nearly killing himself.
Goku in the saiyan saga, zarbon in the frieza saga, frieza in the frieza saga, 18 in the cell saga, perfect cell in the cell saga and so on. Vegeta underestimates his opponents all the time and this line about him never underestimating an opponents strength is comically funny in a dumb way.
@@ryancarberry2040 thats still underestimating gokus strength in the saiyan saga. He underestimated gokus abilities to use moves such as kaloken and spirit bomb.
That's semantics. It's just a stupid line. If they ever adapt this scene for the anime they should cut it.
This is my favourite arc solely due to the fact that they didn't just make a villain randomly appear who is more powerful than Goku and Vegeta. They got someone who at most was the level of Cell (ironic) and brought the other fighters down to his level while raising his own with Ki that he never had access to in his youth.
He feels more realistic and well placed, and ties in a lot of older concepts that were never concluded or extended apon (the Yardrats, the "lord of lords" inside Buu, the androids having no Ki, etc). My only problem with the series is how they keep dumbing down Goku. It would be nice to see him take things seriously and return to his roots. The guy who took less risks and saw the importance of the spiritual, strategic and mental side of fighting, not just winning by "being a beefcake who hits harder than you do"
Goku does go throught a lot of develoments in this arc thanks to Merus, maybe not as much development like vegeta had but still develoment with his UI and how to fully become MUI and fight for those he care about and carry on Merus’s ideals of protecting the innocent
@@purgeblue development in power is not the same as emotional and mental development. He's still the same dumbass with a rapidly decreasing IQ as he was at the start of Super. Until the buu saga started he was an extremely intelligent fighter. Buu saga kinda put that at a hold (understandably considering he was absent for half of it) but Super hasn't given him a single show of intellect since it started. I miss Goku being the smarter fighter, not the stronger one
@@dawsonwarren1121 what about the fight against hit? Or the move he used to finish kefla? Goku is still a genius when it comes to fights
@@camryntelford1151 Against Hit was a small taste of what he used to do, and Kefla was just "Let UI do the work for me"
@@dawsonwarren1121 Eh, in the manga both of those fights are different, (He doesn't even fight Kefla in the manga, Gohan does) and his attitude during both are different as well.
Rest in piece akira Toriyama you will be missed ❤
A small note, but to be honest, Goku knowing about the technique of Forced Spirit Fission could be better off not being canon, but imo, it's still reasonable and can fit into the narrative, since Goku doesn't really care much for weakening his opponents and would rather face them at their strongest, which has always been his most tragic flaw, which also pushes him to new heights.
Low key, I feel like Goku would’ve let Cell get to his full strength also
Well he also skipped where Goku says he didn't have time to learn it and Vegeta brags he's got more natural talent and learned it in half the time Goku could have
@@thomaswagner2243 this is exactly what i was going to say!
It can be written off as:
- On Yardrat Goku heard about the technique but focused on Instant Transmission and mastering SSJ
- After going back to Earth, he forgets. His mind is focused on training for the androids
- Over time he simply forgot. No one's gonna remember every tiny detail 24/7
- When Vegetable used it, he remembered and called it out
Alright I have a theory, Goku knows how to do the technique. But never uses it, but what if he taught it to someone who is wise enough to use it. GOHAN. I know that the impact to Cell was strong, but I think that since he ABSOREBED THE androids like Moro would use magic- Cell would use His tail. So maybe Gohan was using Forced Spirit Fission to knock 18 out of Cell.
Like I said, just a theory
What I like about the ultra instinct transformation is that it initially looks like another rage-induced powerup, but then Goku calms himself down and reminisces about his lost friend. A transformation out of love, not angst. Seeing stuff like that makes me realise, it's nice how far these characters have come.
I like to think he learned his lesson from fighting broly, in the super broly movie you can see his hair briefly change into MUI while hes transforming out of his SSG form, but hes too emotional to lock into the MUI form so hes forced to settle for SSB
Moro feels like a job for Beerus since Moro is throwing off the entire balance of the universe.
This was a WAYYYYYYYYY better arc than I had originally thought.
I started reading the DBS manga around the time this arc was wrapping up, and I was genuinly surprised at the amount of hatred that the senzu bean moment caused for this arc. People were pretending like that single moment somehow ruined the ENTIRE arc. Personally i thought the senzu bean moment was badass, but either way, people made it seem much worse than it was. I think this is one of the best arcs in the franchise, I like it a little more than the Tournament of Power tbh.
@@jantheking7028the hate is valid tho, ppl have been making fun of that decision for YEARS calling goku dumb when he did the same thing with cell so toriyama re-doing the same thing again after all this just shows how he doesn't listen
@@a.n.e.s..z8803 The hate for the senzu bean moment in the moro arc is definitely not valid. Goku giving Moro the senzu bean isn't similar to goku giving cell a senzu bean. When Goku gave Cell a senzu bean, Cell was the strongest person on the planet and no one could stop him. It was pretty dumb for Goku to fully heal Cell, especially because Cell wasn't even asking for the senzu bean, Goku just gave it to him just because. Sure, Goku was hopeful that Gohan would unlock his inner powers while fighting Cell, but there was obviously no way for goku to be 100% sure that Gohan's inner powers could awaken before Cell decides to blow up the planet. With Moro its different. First of all, Moro actually begged for mercy, unlike Cell, which makes it more reasonable for Goku to give Moro a bean in comparison to just giving it to Cell for no reason other than "I want the fight to be fair". In addition, Goku was far and away the strongest mortal in the universe at the time he gave Moro the senzu bean. Goku knew that even at full power, he could easily handle Moro again, which is EXACTLY what happened anyways: Goku gives Moro a senzu bean, and then beats Moro down again to the point Moro is begging for mercy again. This is different from with Cell, because when Goku gave Cell the senzu bean, no one on the entire planet was capable of beating a full power cell at that moment. Also, Goku giving Moro a senzu bean is actually themaically fitting with Goku's character arc in the moro saga. Merus spent most of the arc teaching Goku about what true justice is, and he even admired how Goku spared so many of his enemies in the past. So it makes sense that Goku would give Moro another chance out of respect for Merus and due to the sense of justice he had developed in the arc, unlike giving Cell a senzu bean.
@@smilelydogge2821 well in both situations that decision back fired horribly which led to almost destroying the earth and killing everyone on it so even if goku was 100% stronger than moro he's not far sighted and does things without considering the huge danger they might cause later
also saying it wouldn't be justice if he killed moro is kind of wrong since moro willingly fought goku and everyone else and threatened to absorb the earth or smth so him begging for mercy was so dumb since he BROUGHT it upon himself and the most logical thing is to kill him immediately instead of giving him another chance especially after considering the fact he's not there to have a play date but to kill everyone that's alive which means giving him that senzu bean is like putting everyone's life at risk for your own reasons which is simply wrong
@@a.n.e.s..z8803he was getting clobbered by ui, it was only luck for moro that it ended up backfiring
Please do this with other non animated arcs. This was amazing
Definitely need granola!
@@tobiewuosho4865 by one at the store bro
This was the first one to reach it’s conclusion, the next one has somewhat recently ended so we can expect the granola video somewhen :D
@@hasanmorshed9632 Yall better make this granolah bar thing a meme when the anime animates the granolah arc
I really liked this Arc! I hope you decide to narrate the other DBS arcs as well. You do an excellent job at it!
That's the plan!
@@CarthusDojo will you do the next arc soon because it has ended as well
@@aritro3 oh this and ANOTHER arc have ended already?! damn I cant wait to see it here. This vid was so good!
@@ItaChu787pr Yup! The next arc finished recently. For now, the manga is on pause, but I've heard it's gonna continue at December.
I love it when you resume and explain the things that happen in the anime/manga in a fraction of the time the original material takes, definitely looking up to this! =]
Toriyama & Toyotaro really know how to draw the most wholesome smiles 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Is it just me or does this line have so much more emotion now due to Toriyama's passing?
@@Aname_1031 Bro don't..... I'm tired of crying....
@@Aname_1031i agree
I needed this so badly! I couldn't find a way to read dbs without paying, you just saved me from boredom 😁
to be fair, Viz is only $2 a month and you get access to a large selection of their manga!
@@CarthusDojo bet!🐐
who said you had to do it legally 😈 (Jk)
@@wavyoccean1120 𝕨𝕙𝕠 𝕤𝕒𝕚𝕕 𝕀 𝕕𝕚𝕕
I know a free manga website
1:41 why dont they just put majin buu in the hyperbolic time chamber when he falls asleep?
This arc really was incredible. Can’t wait to see this animated!!!
Just wish we saw more Gohan 17 and piccolo moments
@@yonyalexander3833 Maybe on filler when it gets animated
@@yonyalexander3833 you’d love the new dbs movie
@@euro999 i already saw it but it can be better
I think I heard somewhere, like a comment that talked about how Toyotoro (misspelling his name) said the Saga won’t be animated.
I’m not sure, I think even the comment said he doesn’t know where that comment cam from.
So I don’t know really
Fun Fact: Cranberry actually did appear in the Namek Saga (He was the guy Zarbon kicked in the pond during the assault where Gohan and Krillin met Dende)
Thought about mentioning it, but didn't ever fit into the flow of the video.
TORIYAMA PLANNED IT ALL ALONG!
@@Godzilla00X As always
Actually, I would bet that Cranberry was Toyotaro's idea.
@@zzxzz-666-thedevil9 has Toyotaro been working with toriyama That Long?
Literally the best arc in entire Dragon Ball Super. Not rushed, had some best moments when Meerus sacrificed himself, Goku attained a new power got bigger, Vegeta protected the people of Namek, Goku & Vegeta had their separate training arcs, Meerus did came back but still had an emotional impact on the story, all the z fighters were significantly involved in the story, basically it was everything reminding me how good dragon Ball Z was.
Overall: 9/10
Literally the best arc in Dragon Ball Super 🙂.
Agreed
Agreed
Will this actually release in the future on episodes ? Like Super?
@Kidcool1254 Im assuming because of Toriyamas tragic passing (RIP) a new season of dbs would he far away. Where did you find this information? Im not doubting you, just curious because I haven't heard any news on dbs yet.
@@O_and_ONE well after the web series ends many assumed that super will come out but with the passing of the author super will most likely come out between next year or 2026
Nearly better than watching it live on TV. Thanks for doing what you do!
Goku's denial of being a hero actually makes sense because he simply just does not see himself as one, neither does he do those good things intending to be one. He just didn't really want innocent people, especially his friends, getting hurt. Like what he said, his attitude simply coincides with the heroics he ended up doing.
Stfu it’s really not that deep. Don’t nobody want to read all this nonsense
I’m so tired of this bs argument. Being a hero doesn’t necessarily mean that you are always gallantly racing to help anyone. It simply means that you do what is right and protect others when you do not have to. Goku does that quite often.
Goku could have just went back to his little house in the woods once things began getting tough in original Dragon Ball. He could’ve stopped caring about helping Bulma and just tried to fight strong foes as the dragon balls were abused. But he didn’t. He fought those who sought to abuse their great power. And he saved Earth from the Demon Clan.
Later, Goku also fought against the Saiyans who sought to destroy his home, and he traveled far just to revive his friends and help the universe. Since then, he’s prepared for each and every threat that he’s known was coming, and has fought against each of them. None of this could’ve been done without him.
Goku is selfish sometimes. And sure, he is reckless and stupid quite often. But this doesn’t make him any less of a hero. Goku fights against villains and protects the little people. He has destructive power but never abuses the people of Earth, even when he has money problems or is in a fit of rage.
Goku is a hero. And I’m tired of everyone pretending that he isn’t just because he likes fighting.
@@Doomzdeh chill. I only said that he doesn't consider himself a hero. I didn't say that he isn't
@@Doomzdeh He never said he wasn't a hero 😭
@@Doomzdeh The question you are asking is "Is Goku a hero?" with the answer being "He is". The question we are discussing is "Does Goku think about himself as one?" with the answer being "No. He doesn't." Hell, you literally just saw it yourself - the difference between how Goku sees himself and how others do....
Do you really not get it?
Your story telling is amazing. It was like watching a actual episode. I'm definitely subscribing to this channel
12:06 No, it's just how it is worded. When Freeza called the Ginyu force for backup on Namek, he interrupted the Ginyu force from "processing" the Yardratians and their world. Then, at the end of the arc, Goku gets into one of Ginyu's pods and hits last destination which was Yardrat (or next destination, which is also Yardrat).
Yeah. It’s wild how this video is summary of the arc and the dude is just missing basic plot points.
Wow,well said
True, though, to be fair, Bonyu exists, so we know there were more than five Ginyu Force members at one point.
Speaking of which, I'm surprised we haven't seen her outside of the Kakarot game.
Goku breaking moro’s hand is just cold.🥶
The final battles with moro makes me realise how smart he is with all his tactics to leave no way for them to win like creating the barrier or eating 73 he's (imo) one of the smartest villains
He is probably the second smartest villain after Zamasu. Moro left nothing to chance in his plan, whereas Zamasu left a LOT to chance and STILL basically won. Zamasu knew of stronger beings than Goku, yet he decided to steal Goku's body just so he could make himself a symbol of the god's failures. In other words, Zamasu was too cocky. Zamasu was still pretty smart tho. He was okay with killing all the gods, but he was smart enough to know not to mess with Zeno or the Grand Priest. And in the DBS manga after Zamasu becomes infinite Zamasu, when Zeno shows up all the Zamasu's try to run away. Even when there is INFINITY Zamasus, they know not to mess with Zeno or do something dumb like trying to kill him or switch bodies with him. Moro's plan was a lot more simple, but it was more calculated. So if I had to rank intelligence of DBS villains, Moro and Zamasu might be around equal, but I'd give the edge to Zamasu. Cell is up there too tho, his saiyan genetics caused his downfall, that's not his fault, he was just born like that.
Moro's character design is extremely well done! I'll definitely be scared fighting a half-man and half-goat being. Reminds me of the legend of the goat man
According to toyotaro the inspiration for moro's design is the baphomet
@@estebanstrangeyeah I thought so
Wendigo or something like that
@@estebanstrangethe devil?
As an Indian...if I see myself fighting a goat...I'd just get hungry...
PS: *I love eating goats*
I ain't gone lie Vegeta and Gohan impressed me the most in this arc. Vegeta showed a lot of development on namek when he went out his way to save the kid. He even went to yardrat to learn spirit control and forced spirit fission which was dope af. But gohan didn't do as much but when he fought against og73 he showed some real skill. That energy shield he used, jumping on ki blast that even using gotenks galactic donut technique was dope to me. I know a lot of ppl looked over gohan in this arc but he definitely showed some skill. Can't wait to see gohan n vegeta fights in this arc once its animated
How many years do u think it's gonna take for it to be fully animated
505 years
Vegeta the mighty prince of saiyans
Rip Akira Toriyama🙏
17:34
I always had the suspicion that Zeno couldn't erase angels. Not only were they exempt from erasure during the Tournament of Power, they are the only beings to never show any fear of Zeno.
My headcanon is that Zeno's actually a destroyer above all other destroyers, and Grand Minister is his angel.
I think there's likely one god above Zeno, as even Zeno stood for the summoning of Super Shenron, who could apparently "do anything at all".
i think its awesome the super dragon balls easily revived multiple universes and their entire populations. I wonder if they can use it to restore trunks timeline, but iirc, zeno specifically erased the entire timeline, not just the universe
@Sugon Deez you mean Zalama?
@@sugondeez1708 I mean, in this arc they said that Namekians came from "another dimension". So it could be that Zalama (creator of the super dragon balls) was the ultimate Namekian, or maybe their progenitor (since Namekians spit out eggs). As such Zalama, Zeno, and the grand priest could be in a special tier above the multi-verse we know about.
so..
Zeno = God of Destruction
Grand Priest = Angel
Zalama? = Kaioshin/God of Creation
The reason angels were not erased in the tornament of power is because they are the children of the grand priest who made sure they were not erased and they fear zeno but just doesnt show it since thats how their personality is
And the reason zeno stood up when the super dragon balls were summoned was because they were getting ready to wipe the 7th universe if 17 wished for the cruise
As someone who doesn't read the anime and has been waiting on some context to the new stuff going on, thank you very much for making this video. I really enjoyed it!
Extremely underrated arc in my opinion. Better than all of the Goku Black arc and Resurrection of F arc and BOG arc combined.
Dunno bout the black arc
As far a I know, it's actually the second most popular Arc in Super, only below the latest one.
It’s honestly at least thematicly a really great src
Bro stfu with your 'underated' bs, it's super popular, sure it's amazing, but it's not underrated
The manga version of black arc is a masterpiece
Just finished reading this arc last night and your recap made me cry! I loved hearing all the music throughout the video, and I loved seeing so many colored-in panels! Thank you for all your hard work on this, I'll definitely have to watch your recap of the Granolah arc as soon as I finish that one, too!
I am fine with Vegeta's "I am still a villain" line, it's representative of how he hasn't forgiven himself, just like his regrets over the namekians. It's not meant to show he still has evil intent or anything stupid like that.
I find it a bit corny . I think he doesn’t have to say it or say something like he’s just a renegade.
Not corny imo he acknowledged he's probably going to hell not seeing his family again
I'm okay with it. But i find it confusing that he expects to be sent to hell when a deity like porunga has already given him conformation of a good afterlife. And he's only added to his case.
I think Vegeta likes being a villain in a good way by killing his enemies or anyone who causes harm. thats why I think he considers himself the bad guy.
Vegeta’s line about still being a villain is a representation of how he still hasn’t forgiven himself for his sins
I'm sorry, but Vegeta "never been one to misread an opponent's strength" got me xDDDD
Vegeta obly misread his strength
Good thing your explaining to everyone who doesn’t read the manga, (your awesome at story telling btw,)
*The world will be healed when this arc finally gets animated*
Honestly, Moro being able to find the dragon balls doesn't really feel farfetched. Seeing as he is adept with magic, he should recognize other kinds of magic
Or maybe by absorbing the energy of namekians gave him that ability
@@ManuelFernandez-nm4hy That should have been confirmed.
I was thinking he could feel items' chi or vibration as well. Bulma has a detector of Dragon Ball. It's obviously waves related. Moro seems to be an expert at it. Doesn't seem surprising.
but then why couldn't he do that for the 3 days goku and vegeta were unconscious
This arc is just a masterpiece can’t wait to see it animated some day
Meh could’ve been better
@Ты клоун he is right it was good but it could have been better
@Ты клоун gimme some time I’ll come up with something. That’s not arrogance btw I’d literally rewrite parts of the story to how I’d normally write something but even if I do there’s gonna be some people who most likely not like my version.
@@marlom7882 Exactly, there's gonna be some people like you who would say: "Meh, it could've been better"
That's how the arc was. If the arc wasn't complete trash, then we shouldn't complain.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
In my opinion the arc was amazing. Same with the Granolah arc.
@@zzxzz-666-thedevil9 definitely not the granolah arc that had hella issues
Moro's magic and ki-absorption gimmick was really fun to see. Magic is HORRIBLY underutilized in DB in general, and I wish that they would expand more on it.
Also, his initial design goes SO FUCKING HARD. It was unique, cool, and really great in general. Shame that by the time that he absorbed Seven-Three, he started looking like a generic DB villain.
His design was sick but I loved the idea of him being such a sore loser and absorbing 73, I, personally loved his design when he absorbed 73
@@Spade90 How is that being a sore loser? Moro basically spent the time skip increasing his powers and made sure to store a backup of them in 73 in case things went wrong. It was a contingency plan 🤦♂
honestly yeah would've prefered if we kept the goat design and the calm personality instead of him turning out like every other dragon ball villain and devolving into mindless insanity in a tantrum about losing
Yea the final form sucks@@archforrier1097
yeah, cool initial design, looked arrogant the entire time. He's like a mad scientist, wanting to see his opponents abilities before he stole them. The few annoyances being his obsession with making fodder minions for the heroes to fight (though it shows off his sadistic nature), and his design changing to look more like 73 rather than himself.
Bro thanks a million for making this, b/c ain't no way I'd read all of this... the animations were SSS bro, DO keep this going, and YES I subscribed lmao, solid!
Even if this arc does just rip a ton of things off from the Cell Saga, it's still the best manga arc or DBS arc to date.
It’s not ripping off. It’s parallels
it doesn't seem like a parallel when things just happen beat for beat the same way they did in the cell saga regardless of if the characters know better or not
It's the best DBS arc to date, but not even close to manga in general
Same beats done differently enough to feel like homages/parallels more than anything imo. Don't let the running joke of the counter take away from it doing stuff well!
@@CarthusDojo please do a granola arc next video
This channel definitely blows geekdom101 out the water. No arrogance here just good DBZ talk.
truly the best db content creator currently
I think this is probably the best arc so far because it feels like dragon ball Z. Probably my favorite is the inner workings of ultra instinct, all this time Goku and others have had to fall back on their rage and anger whenever they needed to achieve a new form. Ultra instinct is in direct contrast with that, needing a clear, unemotional mind, forcing Goku to unlearn his way of transforming for the past several years. It's one of those character journey's that feels like an obvious next step, but I still was interested by.
ui is legit what ssjb was supposed to do
and then they undid all of this with the newer UI lol... it's a shame that DBS has such sloppy writing, some really cool ideas in here
I'm not a fan of the constant dbz references but I agree this arc was good.
Can anyone telll me when will dbz super come??
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lowkey angel like Merus fighting against his fate for what he loves was nice. Art and story telling was so much like cell saga but I enjoyed it more than I thought. Read this arc like 30+ times lol
I love this video, shared it with a friend. One thing I’ll say is that with the Ginyu’s attacking Yardrat it appears they are referring to a point in time before Goku defeated them on Namek. Vegeta heard they attacked “here” through being an ex frieza force member
31:25 to quote lord freeza of dbza "my god you could grind meat on those"
Man this was amazing. If you did this for other DBS Manga Arcs it would be incredible.
The character - goku, has inspired lots of people. I like him a lot so I decided to create a statue of him using cement, if you are a fan of him then I believe you will like it.
Damn Uub just casually saving the world without even trying, Sparking Zero main confirmed well chosen
Gotta love how all the arcs in dragon ball super always find away to be better than the last
@hassanzahid2653 it good though
granolah arc is kinda mehh only good thing was vegeta's ultra ego
@hassan Zahid Granolah was definitely better than Moro. Between Goku and Granolah's first fight, Toyotarou's improved art and paneling, Black Frieza epic moment and Ultra Ego, Granolah arc definitely takes the win over Moro arc.
@@sugondeez1708 It doesn't count they are both movies
@@ligerade3536 WAIT BLACK FRIEZA ALSO APPEARS??? WOW!!!
(Im sorry I havent read Granola arc yet)
The part about fighting with Angels full power is the only they can die, I think that's more so the only way an Angel can naturally die - rather than the only way they can die in general. So Zeno can kill the angels and probably has with the other angels from the previous universes. Otherwise Zeno wouldn't really be needed and the Grand Priest would be the highest power in the multiverse.
GP low key busted really wanna see more of dude.. he has the highest form of UI so he literally must be untouchable haha😎
@@reallyhimongod i swear he is. Remember he created the ToP in the palm of his hands without trying, the father of all angels, top 5 stronegest fighter in the multiverse makes me wonder if hes the real God of the verse lol
@@TorchzLive Yeah lol I still like the theory of Grand Priest being the real king of all through this pattern
G.O.D are masters, but are actually weaker than their servant which are Angels
Zeno = G.O.D
Grand Priest = Angel
That kind of theory/pattern
@@gogetablue7905 you might be on to something
The moro arc? Definitely something I'm looking forward to!
Moro* lol
@@Xyphthefall3n bro you don’t need to correct it is not that bad at least he spelled it right no capitalization is not that bad
@@Xyphthefall3n you want a cookie?
@@killersan6857 yes
@@nguyen74hn oh ok sorry
9:43 I agree that wish was bad.
He was strong enough to free the prisoners himself
Bro you should really just make an entire series of your reading the mangas. I’d watch them all repeatedly. Never been able to gain access to them so this was perfect. Best 35 minutes I’ve spent on UA-cam for sure.
I’m mad late, but I just finished reading through this arc today, and I gotta say, I think it might be one of my favorite arcs in DBS. Moro was a very intriguing villain to me. Him going around devouring planets reminded me of Galactus from Marvel Comics, and his magic abilities were interesting. That scene were he impaled Goku through the chest legitimately horrified me. Merus was also a highlight of this arc. Had a feeling he had some kind of connection to the Angels, but seeing it revealed, his sacrifice and bond with Goku made him a great character. I loved how the utilized some of the OG characters that don’t get much action these days, and enjoyed the extended lore with the Kaioshins and Buu. I loved Vegeta’s determination to atone for his past actions on Namek, but I didn’t like how they regressed him to be all like “I just wanna surpass Kakarot” again, and call himself a villain when he hasn’t been one since Majin Vegeta. Finally, I thought Goku giving Moro the senzu just to make him break his own arm by trying that impaling move again was such a huge flex. Absolutely badass.
I prefer the Granolah arc mostly because I like Granolah as a character more than Moro. I also enjoy the addition of new lore, and backstory to Bardock.
I ain’t reading allat🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯💯💯🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Merus was the best character from the arc. I hope he has some other character defining arc that gives him his angel status back. Like another sacrificial event. Something that makes the high angel see that he’s there to help
@@Xvlyzphryn you can't read 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Moro compared to Galactus?
DBZ is a stand alone post- no mention of Marvel crap necessary pal.
Honestly this is the best video explaining this new arc. You speak clearly and calmly and describe it very well in a nutshell.
It's nice to see Vegeta finally able to calmly acknowledge when an opponent is stronger than him/he is outmatched. For him, that's a lot of character development from the prideful and genocidal Saiyan prince we once knew him as.
That was very good. Thanks for putting that together.
loved the flirting thing you did since they always had some kind of a bromance AHHAHA
31:08 i know gohan was shook for a sec.
Yeah. I guess it was sort of Goku's way of saying that he, at least in principle, stands by his giving Cell a senzu bean.
GOKU, YOU DUMB@SS YOU RISKED THE UNIVERSE JUST TO FIGHT MORO LIKE A EARTHLING THERE IS JUST TO MANY THINGS WRONG.
1:Goku isn't from earth.
2:WHY give a villan a zenkai boost?!
3:With Moro's zenkai boost and full power he could've closed the gap between him.
4:YOU TRIED THIS SAME SH!T WHITH CELL AND HE ALMOST KILLED EVERYONE NOW THERES A PLANET EATING MONSTER INFRONT OF YOU AND YOUR GIVING HIM A BEAN?!
Man this was such a cool arc for Dragon Ball Super the introduction of Moro, Merus, Vegeta mastering new techniques, Goku finally mastering Ultra Instinct great stuff.
Yup
In true dragon ball fashion...
Villain: "im stronger"
Goku: "no i am"
Rinse and repeat until goku wins
This was a beautiful arc. It felt very Dragonball but still had everything that makes Dragonball great.
This Arc and Villain are like a culmination of every in universe threat Goku and Vegeta have faced and it took every trick and tactic they could think of to win without Xeno and they still needed divine interference which was also great to see because Merus a divine being was so moved by justice he relinquished his own stature to motivate a guy that inspired him. This is a hidden gem and you explained it really well. Thank you.
I’m only 8 minutes through and I love how you’ve said “final confrontation” twice already despite there being another 27 minutes to the video 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for making! It’s great content 💜
Correct me if I'm wrong but...the Ginyu force that terrorizes Yardrat is the same that we seen in DBZ. Goku jumps in one of their pods when Namek is about to explode and the pod takes him there because it's already a registered coordinate.
You are right my fellow nerd, he even showed up in a Yardrat space suit ? Pretty sure
Ginyu force was on King Kais planet after they died, and the z fighters who were also training with King Kai beat them. So no, they couldn't be the Ginyu force we see in Namek.
@@HighEmpathy I think the Ginyu Force were on Yardrat before Namek. Then Freiza called them for finding the dragon balls then Goku killed them.
@@HighEmpathy i thought that was just anime filler to waste time during the goku frieza fight
@@JONTHEWHEREHOG nope it's not filler at all my dear friend it did happened In the manga too and all of the Ginyu force rushes towards namek to assist Frieza to deal some monkey pest...
Capt.Ginyu: Frieza I have the up to date scouters.
Frieza:with my new ringtone?
Capt. Ginyu: yes my Lord
Frieza:Fantasic of you go and hunt those monkeys
(Ginyu force left)....(plays ringtone) *beep* FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZA!!.
Tfs reference
I don't read many mangas so videos like this save so much time, subscribed
thank you very much for this. there was so much context that you provided in this video that I wasn't even aware of when reviewers were putting up videos about this manga back when this was coming out. pretty cool to see the whole story this time around.
30:24 the difference is that goku actually had a relationship with merus while gohan hardly knows android 16
I felt listening to an audiobook, cool experience
35:26 lol buu just try to eat the medal🤣🤣🤣
Honestly this arc is pretty hype!! I hope this all eventually gets animated without major changes to the storyline.
you should do this for the rest of the arcs aswell. Reading the manga can get really boring at times but you manage to keep it entertaining
Planned to listen to this in the background. Ended up watching the whole thing. Great editing, narration, and the story itself is captivating.
Same
Finally an arc where every character plays a significant role and not just "wait until vegeta and golu save us"
I mean, the tournament of power was basically the same way and so was the Superhero movie.
@@ligerade3536super hero was a snooze ngl😴😴
"Golu"
Cant wait for this to be adapted to anime
Moro arc is really great Can't wait to see it getting animated
Will be thee most amazing showcase ever
Any ideas on when this will happen?!
@@jonathoncatterson8901. I'm not quite sure, but I heard it will be later this year. This is all allegedly, so take my comment with a grain of salt.
Well I think it hard to know about it
It was hard for animators animating the T.O.P.
So, then might have been taking break.
Thoughts 🤔🤔
@@jonathoncatterson8901 I'm gonna predict, probably late 2024.
This is by far going to be the best arc in the anime when it’s finally done. All the events are so great as long as some better dialogue choices are made
wake me up when it gets animated 😴 moro breaking his hand on goku will be peak
No it is not.
Forced spirit fission only works by causing damage like Moro said, which is why Vegeta can't use on him if Moro keeps dodging. But that should also mean that fusing to Gogeta or Vegito could still work if they completely outclass Moro.
which imho they would of. moro shouldnt of been broly level and gogeta blue beat the breaks off him (pre merius absorb i mean)
@@damienmitchell3104 Yea but fusions Never get the job done, technically broly for wished away before gogeta could kill him, but u could argue maybe gogeta would of tried to knock him out but not kill him because the Goku half would want to fight him again
The thing is, Moro would only need to land 1-3 hits for forced spirit fission to trigger, unless Gogeta or Vegito gained access to Ultra Instinct, which is definitely possible, but there would be no time to accomplish fusing and MUI at the pace the fight was going
Vegeta didn't use forced spirit fission in the granola arc like he forgot or something
@@moneyworld7517 forced spirit fission only works on opponents that are fused or gain power through absorption
Granolah and Gas didn’t absorb anyone, they just wished to be extremely powerful by default.
They did my boy 'Vegeta' dirty again, as always.
Dang hahaha the amount of tension in this arc was insane! I loved it!
I usually avoid the manga in favor of the anime but this is incredible
*Wedding:* (wearing casual outfit)
*”New Carthu’s Dojo Premiere in 12 hours:”* (searching wardrobe for finest battle armor)
Yes, finally, I was waiting for this video ever since you posted the thumbnail on the community tab.🔥🔥
32:12 that was more of a parallel to Buu when he absorbed Gotenks and Mystic Gohan.