Jake is giving off Lockstin vibes back from that crazy "all comes together" theorizing before Gen VII. Love it! Please bring him in as a regular member of the pod (and hopefully more Lockstin too)
Jake has great energy! I love it when he comes. It's always great to see you guys. I love agreeing with Lumiose and disagreeing with dusty, and watching soul be squidward sometimes lol. Whenever Jake comes, it's always a welcome bonus
I think its better having him as a regular guest, four people is kinda the most you wanna have on a podcast anymore and people will either start to cut each other off more and derail the conversation or clam up and talk less. You already start to see the latter in episodes with all 3 hosts and a guest
I had just finished the last episode too so this feels like a spiritual Secret Power considering you were mentioned it at the end of the last HPP. We’ve been eating GOOD with these theories, thanks for the time & effort putting all this together fam 🔥
“A special kind of energy is something we’re interested in & maybe are pursuing in Legends ZA” Jake the anime currently is on a arc where an unknown crystal element is the polar opposite of the energy terapagos gives off, a plot line that never happened in Scarlet/Violet. This could be a reference or hint to what is causing the Pokémon to go crazy in Legends ZA because this crystal element powers up the Pokémon while gaining feral wild attributes they lose themselves similarly yet still different to mega evolution. Interesting connection if anyone has seen the most recent episode of the anime!
In legends arcues, the male player character had a shirt from kalos. I believe the female player had a shirt from galar.. Don’t know if this means anything, but very interesting!
The first Pokemon reference to going into a game is like gen 1 red and blue on screen your character shrinks and gets digitalized or more pixelated I believe it's right after Prof Oak cutscene
I SO need to play Pokemon, but I don't currently have a Switch. I'm going to be SO busy playing Pokemon in the coming months, I won't be counting down the days until Switch 2 and ZA releases
Damn I’m kinda jealous. I stopped playing Pokemon after gen 3 then recently came back when pla came out. Since then I’ve played all the switch titles so it feels like an eternity until legends za comes out. I’d go back and play gens 5-7 but those consoles and games are EXPENSIVE. You got some good games ahead of you.
Jake says Necrozma isn't an ultra beast, this is wrong. It's UB-Black. It was lying dormant in the cave when all the others were being recorded. Necrozma is from ultra megalopolis... it's not from this universe. So to go along with Jake's idea of Necrozma being Zygarde's rival... I can subscribe to that, since we have never seen this universes version of him. (Another point is the fact that it's been here so long that it's ultra space aura has wore off, the same thing applies to the box legends, who come through a rip when summoned by the flutes, they are technically UBs) By the way, I have said the whole time that UBs are paradox pokemon. The rips in ultra space are caused by the SV time machine reaching into other universes to grab 'paradox' pokemon. And on the flipside, I've said that Hisui was 1 big Ultraspace tear, and that hisui variants are past paradoxes. All of this ties into a big idea I had back in gen 6, of A and Z being sequels to X and Y... I've mentioned it to Lumi multiple times.
I mean this is spot on. It’s all mostly the same things w a different paint job. So why not acknowledge that and tie it all in as if it were intentional. Bc otherwise it starts to seem like they are just running out of ideas. I think most of the “gimmicks” are the same thing as well. The differences being what’s the powers source & where are you channeling it. Bc they all end up heading down the same road anyway. mons like Terapagos & Ogerpon function just like megas. & dinomax overlaps w Z moves & megas. Totem Pokemon are no different than alphas & are extended upon in paladea w the boss fights
Lusamine also stated in the anime that they aren't counted as Pokemon, especially since there's no registry of them in the dex + they are from completely different worlds via hyperspace. They also needed a whole new Pokeball to be caught in order to be used. Paradox & some regional variants such as Hisuian forms, could just be a big lead up to what may happen within Z-A. It isn't completely out of the ordinary considering that Ash went to a world in the future where Guzzlord destroyed all of Alola. That could also just be countered by Pokemon being an infinite multiverse, though, so all the worlds aren't the same, with examples given from the parallels of R&S, OR&AS, + the manga since all are completely separate Hoenn regions
I personally don't like the game within a game theory buttt- That discussion instantly brought Assassin's Creed to mind. There could be a setup where some how we are interacting with the past via a machine/gadget.
Hear me out... If we are doing that Necrozma stuff with light and such... And the wormholes are in this... ...What if the starters are Poipole and two new Ultra Beasts, and at the end of the game part of the environmental recon people go into a wormhole to establish Ultra Megalopolis... That wormhole city that also has a giant pillar of light in the center...
Gonna be completely honest, my interest in ZA is far less than it was for Legends Arceus. Idk if that’s just because we haven’t seen a trailer yet, or if it’s because Arceus was set in the rural past with the wide open natural wildlife and environments, idk. 🤷♂️ it just ain’t hitting the same for me.
Another thought behind that is PLA was the 1st of its kind, so the curiosity & eagerness should've been at its peak, I believe. You shouldn't be too surprised if the 2nd attempt at that novelty doesn't hold the same level of excitement. For some, that could be the opposite, since they've seen the possibilities this formula carries & the wild directions broadly speculated Kalos lore can bake into.
regional starters evolving into a regular starters is low key brilliant. Say you have a dark/ water Tododile evolve into regular Feraligator & then the mega becomes a dark / water again. This expands the lore of the mega’s typing. & it fixes the complexity of having a regional starter get a mega. Bc now all Feraligators would still have access to the same mega. Also the issue Lumi brought up w advertising isn’t an issue if you advertise the starters from their 3rd familiar stage & then black out the pre evos & the mega for hype. Also the games love to play around w convergent / divergent evos. It’s very on brand & a good way to shake things up while keeping it simple. Seems like a huge missed opportunity to NOT do it at this point.
At first im thinking, it sounds iffy having all these Alolan content on this Kalosian game, cause surely Solgaleo, Necrozma, Lunala, UB's would be in their own game... ... then I realized Alola starts with an "A" even in japanese it still starts with an "A" 🤔 so maybe?
Wow... lol... the thing Jake said about the starters becoming Kalosian mon we already know, is literally the comment I did on the 'picking the ZA starters' podcast. My point was if all 3 were Piplup, Snivy, Scorbunny/Litten, all having French connections already, the 3rd stage is already the Kalos forms, and each of them would have separate 3rd stages ... sigh... I guess it makes less sense hearing someone else say it. 😅
And remember that in the scrapped version of X and Y, Team Flare were originally supposed to be aliens. What are the Ultra Recon Squad to us in sun and moon (aliens)? And what if the Ultra Recon Squad ancestors that damaged Necrozma were the "evil team" in Legends ZA and the event that damaged Necrozma took place in Lumiose city years ago. They could then explain why they ended up in a different world in ZA (like maybe Necrozma got mad at them and warped them to another world after the events or something).
Think youll need to bring in tyranitartube for the zygarde necrozma convo, he flushed it out so hard it convinced me its an up there story line he made in march/april
One of the key tenets of the Pokemon experience has always been a wide open world to explore. I hope we are not confined to just one city, no matter how detailed it may be
I think despite XY being the first 3D game, it's map is extremely flat. How cool would it be if PLZA being set in Lumiose, the map is a circle in the 2D plane and then there are floors of buildings and chutes and ladders of pocket dimensions sprouting out of the map in the Z coordinate? Imagine the BotW map vs a Divine Beast map.
@@mindfulchimpmenagerie I can just imagine finding Pidoves, Dedenne, and Trubbish in some back alley and then turning to find a Hoopa ring on the side of a dumpster that takes me to a pocket dimension (can you say TOTK depths??) in a volcano area and there's loads of fire ground rock and steel type toughies
@@skyjordanking the pocket dimensions would be an interesting way to fill out the city with a variety of mons. I was more so referring to the 3 dimensions. And the fact that cities always are built in levels. And that x and y although using 3D models, were flat games ironically. And this feels like it will really tap into the dimensionality of the y axis for this world. Making the map span up (and hopefully) down away from the ground level. I could imagine them using sewers, tunnels or catacombs to do so. Either way excited to see how they create an engaging game all within a city. I got faith in em on this one.
Lumi you were saying pokemon likes to tease things. I just started playing Detective pickachu two. I know I know. But I have to get my new pokemon fix some how. In the beginning their is crates of apples turned over some regular apples and some applin. And blocking the way until you solve the issue is an alohen exeggutor. To me that was a hint tow the new applin form. I realize we only noticed it after the reveal of the bee forum but it was still a tease. My point is the are teasing us in plain site. We either have to wait for the revel or some one has to analyze the whole scarlet and violet game and dlc with a fine tooth comb and see if their is any hints.
You and your friends have a club. And say another team of four invade your club for supplies. You need supplies to update your club. You can challenge the invading players to pokemon battles to get them out your base.
1:39:04 We’ve had past Pokemon show up in new regions all the time while just being normal, there no reason that the reverse should be different. There has to be some sort of extreme that a region has that specifically affects certain Pokemon. Alolan Executor is likely the original version of it, and by being taken to Kanto and other less hot and sunny regions, it’s growth is stunted and its only the original Executor that we knew.
1:30:52 I think if they were to ever use Jake’s idea, they wouldn’t call them regional variants. Something like Wild forms or something. Basically non domesticated forms. Of course I say that… as that’s basically what Hisuian Growlithe is lol
Its actually good theming for zygarde vs nekrosma. Zygard representing nature, needs to rebuild himself to be complete. But nekrosma needs to infect other things to be complete
So much fun 😊 this was awesome while just playing old games. Love idea and prediction I take anything new in this game we just want something to last into gen 10/ gen 5 remakes my hope for game is just for me to play it again like sword shiled and more. Jake is spitting though how do they hyoe staters now it crazy we already hype for them but if nothing change or they get use to much it not hype anyway or not same as just get them in wild. I also like lumi idea of them just being xy starer and if that we get break from gen 4 stuff eveh though there probably be some Pokémon in it I love gen 4 it just been crazy. If it mixture will it be as hype cause people could just say it happen again who knows so intersting. ❤❤❤🔥🔥hype thanks for video
52:48 I am taking the stance that they did not skip Gen 5 but that Legends games don’t have to follow the order that the games came out. The next Legends game could be a Johto one, then after that it’s a Galar one. Remakes, probably will follow the release order. But there’s nothing making them do the same thing for Legends.
Making the ZA starters have Kalosian forms from the start in order to make them exciting after the SV DLC makes sense but them evolving into forms we've already seen would be such an unpopular move it might single handedly ruin this game's reputation even with Megas so yeah not very likely imo.
Piplup(for Empoleon) and Scorbunny(for Cinderace) being a starter Pokémon for Legends Z-A makes sense because no Pokémon from Sinnoh or Galar got a regional form outside of the region. Kanto(33), Johto(6), Hoenn(2), Unova(9), Kalos(3) and Alola(1) are the only regions where Pokémon got a regional form outside of their home region.
I agree I think worm holes will be back with ultra beast. Which should bring tapus and zygarde to the region maybe. Hopefully. I heard rumor of 2 new ultra beast.
I've been saying ultra beasts are involved all along there's got to be a reason why they give you just 1 beast ball after completing the scarlet and violet dex if that's not a hint of what's to come idk what is !!
When I think aboutt the title "Pokemon Legends ZA", I think of Pokemon Trainer AZ. threfore, I think the game will be about AZ the trainer, and whoever or whatever is ZA.
Man I kinda wanna start as a CaC of ANY prior region about to start gym challenge wihh th your starter you pick normally… BUT THEN “No Truck-kūn, Looo Out! ……….” “Wow truck kun I was concerned I thought you’d have another horrible crash and Not Make it… but you only hit a little Pokémon near a Pokémon centre and whatever is under this rock that fell over… OH NO it’s a Child! He and his Pokémon are Non Responsibe but Still Alive… Are they gonna make it?! Truck kūn will be SO Upset if he’s isèkaîed another weeb into a fantasy world! Ha… no we really struggle with it…” “…well While they’re still Alive… this otherwise future villainous scientifically inclined person who hates the Professsor here… he said something ominous about this… That he COULD Tell… this Child has been sent elsewhere through their consciousness.. he said it sometimes happens to Protagonists in anime they used to watch…” “No Truck Kun and I have done it again! We’re so sorry… or Something along those lines… : D But Then you wake up in Kalos and your starter Seems to Feel Different & somethi terrible has JUST Happened & we witness some unclearly seen villain with whatever tie to the professor who’s attacked & his Zygarde who was theirs gets Destroyed from their normal form by Science to mess with their Ability to Grouo together… but the Missing Core was hiding exactly where you Appeared which Actually saved it Because Hoopa lost a pokébet about Humans around who would win whatever battle about to happen & So Hoopa saved Zygarde’s ONLY remaining Core that can still be used with… I dunno power of friendship/aura/“bond phenomenon” stuff which give a New Friendship based power equivalent to halfway between in game battle bond & The AshGreninja Anime thing where you’re Bond Pokémon getting knocked out ALMOST knocks out Your character dramatically cause of villain but Zygarde Corr has One or Two moves it was taught by HM by whoever is a friend/associate/child student underling of Professor that’s In Coma JUST like Yourself in Real World had taught Core Zygarde with no battle form JUST Protect so they feel like a Metapod that isn’t YOURS but is caught by… I dunno if we just use Bonnie for this? Maybe? That could work a core zygard with Maybe Protect & Spark taught because her brother is electric gym guy to parallel the anime? FEELS about right… but spark is great cause weak electric move which cause paralysis mixed with Protect OR Even better… it Learns a NEW Special Zygarde Protect equivalent without brick break weakness cause of Ground Typing & maybe having Damage to attacking mons whether only physical or special attacks damage them Or MAYBE you can Really customise decisionmaking in battle at SOME Moments through Bond where Protect will also protect the Character (like Líkō’s pendant’s Green Shield stuff?)
But your character having the Last Squishy nicknamed (which you get bonus for Keeping the name AND a Bonus for Changing its name to specific things maybe at specific moments? Or maybe that’s just adding a word or Title you choose or unlock? “Hero of
Having your Training & Aura/Hákí/Willpower/Intentions be what decides what kind of Secondary typing you get CAN Complicate a Bit but then we have form change options if there’s Multiple Mega Directions & BattleBond Form Directions! …but Battling Your Own Team FEELS like a Small Camp setup Training Exercise which you CAN Do with NPC level trainers & Rivals & Even Peopoe You CHOOSE to be better friends with so an NPC can Become a Unique Character with Quality Voiceacted bits which shift dependant upon whichever things…. so by the Next MainSeries Games they have a hugely Improved version of this… But Dramatic Bond Abilities & Aura Sensiry Powers FEEL Integral to Kalos & a Few other regions BUT Battle Bind Form can ALSO take the Typing Preferences of your Character & other Pokémon on team depending on the battle where; “ah the gym leader we Just Beat or saw defeat our rival with That Move that Looked Strong…. I Need you to Use Ember in the Level of Power They Used so Mix your move with Other Chosen Move But As Strong as that move They Used… So Strong it If you think it’s Too Much… Remember… I am with you & the hopes & dreams of ALL our team!” Making it Personal & Dramatic like a Shōnèn Adventure powerup FEELS like something Missing from MOST Pokémon writing where a 10 year old becomes the best & also defeats a terror group trying to destroy the region/world/etc. or even the conquering of intangible concepts they dislike cause of sad flashbacks we Usually don’t get much of…. One Piece villain writing CAN Be Done for innumerable characters in questionable times of history which have also been PokéWarped in ísèkaî style! Man Jake’s theory had me cookin at the first use of word ísèkaî!!! : D Bravo… But maybe I’m suggesting a Bit much where we only get what feels like the Start of ALMOST doing what I’m talking but with ALL the layers of depth and amazing character writing Removed… Hope games can NOT have a Musical Moment where there’s NO VoiceActing & No Proper Song in even Japanese Dub… that Never FEELS Complete in SwordShield dark gym battle if people get what I mean… Please Voice Acting so it feels like an open world game with humans in tech level of games 20 years ago!!! But I would enjoy preventing Skipping Dialogue the first time BUT a NewGame+ where you don’t lose ANY of the things you got in event etc stuff Bevause if saved that you did it, it becomes Replayable in NewGame+ JUST so people can Play More without Deleting save file or having to Make Nee account and Buy stuff NO ONE wants to pay for MORE of things they’ve already bought… Also wish I could use two controllers to have a Stadium Emulator built into Better Pokémon Home where we get an Oak’s Ranch or Whole Town which can be shifted and redesigned as you build the place with bonuses for which games you’ve bought & which you accomplished whichever things in… but I wanna stadium Battle my other save files & decide whether they’re earning XP & because Both Games are on the Card then WHY not have all that data usable?! Maybe an Aura Training Martial Arrs meditation thing which raises Human HP for stronger areas & Makes Bond Forms & MegaForms WAY Stronger?! All of these ideas could make the ULTIMATE Fantastical Pokémon Training Experience within whichever world…. But Dialogue Options Could ALSO make a HUGE change where finally People feel insentivised to Read to Not make Stupid mistakes… Oh & give us A Rewind in game for any time you make a mistake ANYWHERE in all Game Modes… maybe not contest rhythm battle if you rewind 2 seconds to ensure you NEVER get less than Perfect? Maybe penalises if you’ve done it for stuff More than clicking wrong button & immediately rewinding which wouldn’t count? Though there is Charm to Gameplay Mistakes being what makes Gamers MORE than mediocre A.I. become the standard for “Pokémon Master” status? Anyone vibing with ANY of these ideas?! Just curious if half of this is what everyone else expects or Just stuff people Wished we had for past 25+ years??? (I expected Pokémon Game Designer on N64 when We got Tony Hawk’s Proskater & could make our own skateparks on N64! Still bloody WAITING on “Pokémon Adventure Maker” where you mix generations at will & art style casually and Character Animations & dialogue… maybe even put in your own Mic VoiceActing & People who downloaded your game can continue editing if you allow it & it has notes on it when you enter development mode… which could be locked for Some “Finished” Fan Game or Rom Hack style adventures WHERE then they give awards like who’s game becomes a Part of new C Team’s Game which are based on Fan Games now developed Officially without them Losing the magical community of young Devs with Dreams who might just be an average kid whose friends continuously help rewrite plots & events etc. til they have a Game that’s ALMOST if not Better than Official Games BUT all are accessible through the Pokémon Adventure Creator… where anyone; Feel free To IMAGINE the Potential in such a Game Right There! Getting the Modder community Rebuilt in a way that serves themselves & tPCI/etc.! Feels foolish & stupid to have Not Done this Already whilst crushing Genuinely interesting compelling fan projects & the lives connected to them… Just sayin…. Now I’ve said Too Much…. do Excuse, yeah? : D
Anyone seeing the Big Text & thinking “oh no my eyeballs actually needing to move to process words that I may need to Think to comprehend fully!”, I must Advise; JUST Highlight all these and use Speak Function for optimal Lulz… Of course… : D Cheers!
If people are against Pokémon being in 2D, you know they are lying about supporting the National Pokédex coming back. The Necrozma and Ultra Space ideas together would have meant you can get Pokémon from other regions.
So I had a thought about the starter thing what if the finel evolution has the same look as it’s original but gets an extra typing slapped on it like typlosion and the others did In Arceus but when mega evolving they gain a new look and a new additional typing to replace its new dual type get what I am saying
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If the starters get megas that immediately makes my excitement for these games non existent. Making the player choose between using their mega starter and other megas they will naturally catch throughout the game is bad design. Just keep it simple give them regionals and let us choose which megas we want to use. Hard disagree with Lumi’s idea that we get no regional forms. Why give us so many megas when we can only use one at a time? Then you also have to wonder what the next legends games gimmick would be for the starters. Is it gigantimax? Because technically that gimmick gives new forms too but was way less popular. Then what if they make more than 3 legends games? I don’t know why game freak would shoot themselves in the foot by giving the starters megas and gigantamx forms for the next two games and then go back to regionals or megas again. It’s inconsistent and so against what pokemon is. Keep it simple stupid and just give us regionals. Literally if you polled the entirety of the world most people will want regionals and I think game freak knows that. Their goal is not to throw us for a loop so we should stop overthinking this.
They will definitely put regionals in the game. The merchandise is king to pokemon, whos selling more plush hisian zorua or a new mega? Plus if they announce old starters as starters for za the hype cycle pretty much runs itself.
@@joshyotoastThis argument makes no sense. We haven’t had a new mega in over a decade. If they give a new mega to a popular pokemon of course it will sell merch. And this argument also ignores the fact we barely got any regionals in paldea just wooper and 3 tauros.
lumi be like it s my vity how dare necrozama or an evil tema attack it just jokign lumi is one of th niecest chubbiest loving fun lovabel alongside dusty and soul silver art dusty shodul cosplay as a tema fkare leader and attack lumioses city lumi cosplasy asnas the palyer character or zygarde hmmm halloween do you go to the gym dusty hmmm
please see my message i wodul believe that ash wodul have been stronger had he evolved allhis poakemon inclcuding poikachu lets asay taht or pretend hmmm that the epokemon woudl wasnt to evolve into their full opotential and woudl want to fall in love ith a female of their species those peokmon who that whcih didnt wasnt to evolve and neve er evolved adt all full evolution hmmm i touewld make them mre wmature non cannon anime fielrl og oc stuff fanmanga fanftioion viodegmae filelr movie moive stuff as wlel viodegae stuff manga stuff unrelatiist unthinkbale unimagainbale unthinkable unpected what if s boysoidn the box thinkignw eya more imaignation cratity audiences subriber colments suggestions ideas otherwise it owudl adn coudl very borign amen take care hmm hmmm Commented on Pokemon The Series Scarlet & Violet Episode 4 17:11
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Jake is giving off Lockstin vibes back from that crazy "all comes together" theorizing before Gen VII. Love it! Please bring him in as a regular member of the pod (and hopefully more Lockstin too)
Steinberg on the Pod! These shows have a "friends from different schools but play on the same extra curricular team" vibe and I love it!
I think Jake should just become a permanent fourth member
Gotta say, yall was really cooking with this one. All the alola content yall mentioned seems a lot more plausible then I first thought. Great vid!
Jake has great energy! I love it when he comes. It's always great to see you guys. I love agreeing with Lumiose and disagreeing with dusty, and watching soul be squidward sometimes lol. Whenever Jake comes, it's always a welcome bonus
BTW my favorite character was Fraiser Crane, lmao. I grew up watching it with my dad. He had a thing for Daphne 💀
MAKE JAKE A REGULAR PART OF THE SHOW
Regular... Show...?
No. Don't do my boy soul like that. He can't be replaced
@@IcarusFallz not in place of soul, in addition to. He's my fave too dw
Agreed!
I think its better having him as a regular guest, four people is kinda the most you wanna have on a podcast anymore and people will either start to cut each other off more and derail the conversation or clam up and talk less. You already start to see the latter in episodes with all 3 hosts and a guest
I had just finished the last episode too so this feels like a spiritual Secret Power considering you were mentioned it at the end of the last HPP. We’ve been eating GOOD with these theories, thanks for the time & effort putting all this together fam 🔥
Would love to see tyrannitartube on the show
The last 3 days I've non stop rewatched all your videos.
Addiction is a thing
Edit: Jake is here too???????
Let's goo
Jake is such a great visitor! Enjoy him everytime you guys bring him, good match with you guys!!
Remember kids theorise responsibly. Lest you be Mephesto-ed
I need to go back and play the DS3DS Pokemon games. The only ones I finished were Diamond, Pearl & Platinum, and Sun & Moon
the A in Legends Z-A stands for Alola, trust
“A special kind of energy is something we’re interested in & maybe are pursuing in Legends ZA” Jake the anime currently is on a arc where an unknown crystal element is the polar opposite of the energy terapagos gives off, a plot line that never happened in Scarlet/Violet. This could be a reference or hint to what is causing the Pokémon to go crazy in Legends ZA because this crystal element powers up the Pokémon while gaining feral wild attributes they lose themselves similarly yet still different to mega evolution. Interesting connection if anyone has seen the most recent episode of the anime!
And the starters for ZA are...
Regional Simisage
Mega Simisear
Convergent Simipour
I think the rumor about time travel in ZA might be true based on Jake's theory. The Beginning of Lumiose and the End??? Sounds reasonable
Man I thought Dusty had some wild takes😂
Z-A is going to be like ocarina of time
"ORAS was to XY was Frasier was to Cheers!" LUMI IS SO RIGHT!
In legends arcues, the male player character had a shirt from kalos. I believe the female player had a shirt from galar.. Don’t know if this means anything, but very interesting!
The first Pokemon reference to going into a game is like gen 1 red and blue on screen your character shrinks and gets digitalized or more pixelated I believe it's right after Prof Oak cutscene
I SO need to play Pokemon, but I don't currently have a Switch. I'm going to be SO busy playing Pokemon in the coming months, I won't be counting down the days until Switch 2 and ZA releases
Damn I’m kinda jealous. I stopped playing Pokemon after gen 3 then recently came back when pla came out. Since then I’ve played all the switch titles so it feels like an eternity until legends za comes out. I’d go back and play gens 5-7 but those consoles and games are EXPENSIVE. You got some good games ahead of you.
What if old Kalos is the Azoth kingdom ?
Jake says Necrozma isn't an ultra beast, this is wrong. It's UB-Black. It was lying dormant in the cave when all the others were being recorded. Necrozma is from ultra megalopolis... it's not from this universe. So to go along with Jake's idea of Necrozma being Zygarde's rival... I can subscribe to that, since we have never seen this universes version of him. (Another point is the fact that it's been here so long that it's ultra space aura has wore off, the same thing applies to the box legends, who come through a rip when summoned by the flutes, they are technically UBs)
By the way, I have said the whole time that UBs are paradox pokemon. The rips in ultra space are caused by the SV time machine reaching into other universes to grab 'paradox' pokemon. And on the flipside, I've said that Hisui was 1 big Ultraspace tear, and that hisui variants are past paradoxes.
All of this ties into a big idea I had back in gen 6, of A and Z being sequels to X and Y... I've mentioned it to Lumi multiple times.
I mean this is spot on. It’s all mostly the same things w a different paint job. So why not acknowledge that and tie it all in as if it were intentional. Bc otherwise it starts to seem like they are just running out of ideas.
I think most of the “gimmicks” are the same thing as well. The differences being what’s the powers source & where are you channeling it.
Bc they all end up heading down the same road anyway. mons like Terapagos & Ogerpon function just like megas. & dinomax overlaps w Z moves & megas.
Totem Pokemon are no different than alphas & are extended upon in paladea w the boss fights
Lusamine also stated in the anime that they aren't counted as Pokemon, especially since there's no registry of them in the dex + they are from completely different worlds via hyperspace. They also needed a whole new Pokeball to be caught in order to be used. Paradox & some regional variants such as Hisuian forms, could just be a big lead up to what may happen within Z-A. It isn't completely out of the ordinary considering that Ash went to a world in the future where Guzzlord destroyed all of Alola. That could also just be countered by Pokemon being an infinite multiverse, though, so all the worlds aren't the same, with examples given from the parallels of R&S, OR&AS, + the manga since all are completely separate Hoenn regions
55:54 retcon swords of justice add another make them regional form turtles. NINJA TURTLES BABY
I personally don't like the game within a game theory buttt-
That discussion instantly brought Assassin's Creed to mind.
There could be a setup where some how we are interacting with the past via a machine/gadget.
Hear me out... If we are doing that Necrozma stuff with light and such... And the wormholes are in this...
...What if the starters are Poipole and two new Ultra Beasts, and at the end of the game part of the environmental recon people go into a wormhole to establish Ultra Megalopolis... That wormhole city that also has a giant pillar of light in the center...
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That sounds really cool, but i feel like that’s more a legends alola..
but i really want this now!
Gonna be completely honest, my interest in ZA is far less than it was for Legends Arceus. Idk if that’s just because we haven’t seen a trailer yet, or if it’s because Arceus was set in the rural past with the wide open natural wildlife and environments, idk. 🤷♂️ it just ain’t hitting the same for me.
Same, but I’ll wait till trailer
Another thought behind that is PLA was the 1st of its kind, so the curiosity & eagerness should've been at its peak, I believe. You shouldn't be too surprised if the 2nd attempt at that novelty doesn't hold the same level of excitement. For some, that could be the opposite, since they've seen the possibilities this formula carries & the wild directions broadly speculated Kalos lore can bake into.
regional starters evolving into a regular starters is low key brilliant.
Say you have a dark/ water Tododile evolve into regular Feraligator & then the mega becomes a dark / water again. This expands the lore of the mega’s typing. & it fixes the complexity of having a regional starter get a mega. Bc now all Feraligators would still have access to the same mega.
Also the issue Lumi brought up w advertising isn’t an issue if you advertise the starters from their 3rd familiar stage & then black out the pre evos & the mega for hype.
Also the games love to play around w convergent / divergent evos. It’s very on brand & a good way to shake things up while keeping it simple. Seems like a huge missed opportunity to NOT do it at this point.
FINALLY SOMEONE SEES MY VISION
Comrade Jake is here laying it all down on the table
Love it when the OG HP trio are on an episode together: Lumiose Post, Dusty Gogoat and Soul Silver Steinberg 😝
Would love to see Tyranitartube in this show he fleshed out this theory
I’ve been saying this since the trailer. I’m glad others are seeing the vision (referring to Necrozma)
I can't help but notice that lumi looks different
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Alolan Form
Gotta love Litten is going to be the fire fighting it was supposed to be.
Dang Jake! I get that youre excited, but my eears!!😂
Niles is S tier in Frasier lore
Only 2 episodes in now and I'm really enjoying this content., keep it up guys
At first im thinking, it sounds iffy having all these Alolan content on this Kalosian game, cause surely Solgaleo, Necrozma, Lunala, UB's would be in their own game... ... then I realized Alola starts with an "A" even in japanese it still starts with an "A" 🤔 so maybe?
Wow... lol... the thing Jake said about the starters becoming Kalosian mon we already know, is literally the comment I did on the 'picking the ZA starters' podcast. My point was if all 3 were Piplup, Snivy, Scorbunny/Litten, all having French connections already, the 3rd stage is already the Kalos forms, and each of them would have separate 3rd stages ... sigh... I guess it makes less sense hearing someone else say it. 😅
damn, this was a really good episode very interesting to listen to a lot of stuff going off in my headcannon
Something I wanna say I know that everyone will hate but what if the starters are actually the monkey trio and they get mega evos
And remember that in the scrapped version of X and Y, Team Flare were originally supposed to be aliens. What are the Ultra Recon Squad to us in sun and moon (aliens)? And what if the Ultra Recon Squad ancestors that damaged Necrozma were the "evil team" in Legends ZA and the event that damaged Necrozma took place in Lumiose city years ago. They could then explain why they ended up in a different world in ZA (like maybe Necrozma got mad at them and warped them to another world after the events or something).
12:05 baseball caps were invented in 1849. They are just further confirmation of the past.
Think youll need to bring in tyranitartube for the zygarde necrozma convo, he flushed it out so hard it convinced me its an up there story line he made in march/april
One of the key tenets of the Pokemon experience has always been a wide open world to explore. I hope we are not confined to just one city, no matter how detailed it may be
I think despite XY being the first 3D game, it's map is extremely flat. How cool would it be if PLZA being set in Lumiose, the map is a circle in the 2D plane and then there are floors of buildings and chutes and ladders of pocket dimensions sprouting out of the map in the Z coordinate? Imagine the BotW map vs a Divine Beast map.
I’ve been thinking exactly this too.
@@mindfulchimpmenagerie I can just imagine finding Pidoves, Dedenne, and Trubbish in some back alley and then turning to find a Hoopa ring on the side of a dumpster that takes me to a pocket dimension (can you say TOTK depths??) in a volcano area and there's loads of fire ground rock and steel type toughies
@@skyjordanking the pocket dimensions would be an interesting way to fill out the city with a variety of mons.
I was more so referring to the 3 dimensions. And the fact that cities always are built in levels. And that x and y although using 3D models, were flat games ironically. And this feels like it will really tap into the dimensionality of the y axis for this world. Making the map span up (and hopefully) down away from the ground level.
I could imagine them using sewers, tunnels or catacombs to do so. Either way excited to see how they create an engaging game all within a city. I got faith in em on this one.
Lumi you were saying pokemon likes to tease things. I just started playing Detective pickachu two. I know I know. But I have to get my new pokemon fix some how. In the beginning their is crates of apples turned over some regular apples and some applin. And blocking the way until you solve the issue is an alohen exeggutor. To me that was a hint tow the new applin form. I realize we only noticed it after the reveal of the bee forum but it was still a tease. My point is the are teasing us in plain site. We either have to wait for the revel or some one has to analyze the whole scarlet and violet game and dlc with a fine tooth comb and see if their is any hints.
You and your friends have a club. And say another team of four invade your club for supplies. You need supplies to update your club. You can challenge the invading players to pokemon battles to get them out your base.
1:39:04 We’ve had past Pokemon show up in new regions all the time while just being normal, there no reason that the reverse should be different. There has to be some sort of extreme that a region has that specifically affects certain Pokemon. Alolan Executor is likely the original version of it, and by being taken to Kanto and other less hot and sunny regions, it’s growth is stunted and its only the original Executor that we knew.
56:51 There is definitely room for another Sword of Justice. Hoops had a video with one. You can pull in certain Three Musketeers to fill a role.
1:30:52 I think if they were to ever use Jake’s idea, they wouldn’t call them regional variants. Something like Wild forms or something. Basically non domesticated forms.
Of course I say that… as that’s basically what Hisuian Growlithe is lol
Jake loving ultra sun is amazing 🤣
Its actually good theming for zygarde vs nekrosma. Zygard representing nature, needs to rebuild himself to be complete. But nekrosma needs to infect other things to be complete
So much fun 😊 this was awesome while just playing old games. Love idea and prediction I take anything new in this game we just want something to last into gen 10/ gen 5 remakes my hope for game is just for me to play it again like sword shiled and more. Jake is spitting though how do they hyoe staters now it crazy we already hype for them but if nothing change or they get use to much it not hype anyway or not same as just get them in wild. I also like lumi idea of them just being xy starer and if that we get break from gen 4 stuff eveh though there probably be some Pokémon in it I love gen 4 it just been crazy. If it mixture will it be as hype cause people could just say it happen again who knows so intersting. ❤❤❤🔥🔥hype thanks for video
52:48 I am taking the stance that they did not skip Gen 5 but that Legends games don’t have to follow the order that the games came out. The next Legends game could be a Johto one, then after that it’s a Galar one. Remakes, probably will follow the release order. But there’s nothing making them do the same thing for Legends.
Making the ZA starters have Kalosian forms from the start in order to make them exciting after the SV DLC makes sense but them evolving into forms we've already seen would be such an unpopular move it might single handedly ruin this game's reputation even with Megas so yeah not very likely imo.
Piplup(for Empoleon) and Scorbunny(for Cinderace) being a starter Pokémon for Legends Z-A makes sense because no Pokémon from Sinnoh or Galar got a regional form outside of the region. Kanto(33), Johto(6), Hoenn(2), Unova(9), Kalos(3) and Alola(1) are the only regions where Pokémon got a regional form outside of their home region.
Nah its gonna be litten, totodile, and turtwig
45:35 omg Jake I have been saying LTH for ages!!!!
In the tcg they are adding trainer's pokemon again. N's reshiram and Lillie's clefairy are in.
I agree I think worm holes will be back with ultra beast. Which should bring tapus and zygarde to the region maybe. Hopefully. I heard rumor of 2 new ultra beast.
What if they bring 3 new never before seen pokemon for the starters from a future region we have not seen before?
I've been saying ultra beasts are involved all along there's got to be a reason why they give you just 1 beast ball after completing the scarlet and violet dex if that's not a hint of what's to come idk what is !!
Burrow is in the first person to make this Theory
If all these gen 7 tie-ins are in the za surely one of the starters would have to be an alolan one
When I think aboutt the title "Pokemon Legends ZA", I think of Pokemon Trainer AZ. threfore, I think the game will be about AZ the trainer, and whoever or whatever is ZA.
Love the az alphabet idea for beginning and end almost building up to I don’t the 30 anniversary
Ryquaza ends with A.
Man I kinda wanna start as a CaC of ANY prior region about to start gym challenge wihh th your starter you pick normally…
BUT THEN
“No Truck-kūn, Looo Out! ……….”
“Wow truck kun I was concerned I thought you’d have another horrible crash and Not Make it… but you only hit a little Pokémon near a Pokémon centre and whatever is under this rock that fell over… OH NO it’s a Child! He and his Pokémon are Non Responsibe but Still Alive… Are they gonna make it?! Truck kūn will be SO Upset if he’s isèkaîed another weeb into a fantasy world! Ha… no we really struggle with it…”
“…well While they’re still Alive… this otherwise future villainous scientifically inclined person who hates the Professsor here… he said something ominous about this… That he COULD Tell… this Child has been sent elsewhere through their consciousness.. he said it sometimes happens to Protagonists in anime they used to watch…”
“No Truck Kun and I have done it again! We’re so sorry… or Something along those lines… : D
But Then you wake up in Kalos and your starter Seems to Feel Different & somethi terrible has JUST Happened & we witness some unclearly seen villain with whatever tie to the professor who’s attacked & his Zygarde who was theirs gets Destroyed from their normal form by Science to mess with their Ability to Grouo together… but the Missing Core was hiding exactly where you Appeared which Actually saved it Because Hoopa lost a pokébet about Humans around who would win whatever battle about to happen & So Hoopa saved Zygarde’s ONLY remaining Core that can still be used with… I dunno power of friendship/aura/“bond phenomenon” stuff which give a New Friendship based power equivalent to halfway between in game battle bond & The AshGreninja Anime thing where you’re Bond Pokémon getting knocked out ALMOST knocks out Your character dramatically cause of villain but Zygarde Corr has One or Two moves it was taught by HM by whoever is a friend/associate/child student underling of Professor that’s In Coma JUST like Yourself in Real World had taught Core Zygarde with no battle form JUST Protect so they feel like a Metapod that isn’t YOURS but is caught by… I dunno if we just use Bonnie for this? Maybe? That could work a core zygard with Maybe Protect & Spark taught because her brother is electric gym guy to parallel the anime? FEELS about right… but spark is great cause weak electric move which cause paralysis mixed with Protect OR Even better… it Learns a NEW Special Zygarde Protect equivalent without brick break weakness cause of Ground Typing & maybe having Damage to attacking mons whether only physical or special attacks damage them Or MAYBE you can Really customise decisionmaking in battle at SOME Moments through Bond where Protect will also protect the Character (like Líkō’s pendant’s Green Shield stuff?)
But your character having the Last Squishy nicknamed (which you get bonus for Keeping the name AND a Bonus for Changing its name to specific things maybe at specific moments? Or maybe that’s just adding a word or Title you choose or unlock? “Hero of
Having your Training & Aura/Hákí/Willpower/Intentions be what decides what kind of Secondary typing you get CAN Complicate a Bit but then we have form change options if there’s Multiple Mega Directions & BattleBond Form Directions!
…but Battling Your Own Team FEELS like a Small Camp setup Training Exercise which you CAN Do with NPC level trainers & Rivals & Even Peopoe You CHOOSE to be better friends with so an NPC can Become a Unique Character with Quality Voiceacted bits which shift dependant upon whichever things…. so by the Next MainSeries Games they have a hugely Improved version of this…
But Dramatic Bond Abilities & Aura Sensiry Powers FEEL Integral to Kalos & a Few other regions BUT Battle Bind Form can ALSO take the Typing Preferences of your Character & other Pokémon on team depending on the battle where;
“ah the gym leader we Just Beat or saw defeat our rival with That Move that Looked Strong…. I Need you to Use Ember in the Level of Power They Used so Mix your move with Other Chosen Move But As Strong as that move They Used… So Strong it If you think it’s Too Much… Remember… I am with you & the hopes & dreams of ALL our team!”
Making it Personal & Dramatic like a Shōnèn Adventure powerup FEELS like something Missing from MOST Pokémon writing where a 10 year old becomes the best & also defeats a terror group trying to destroy the region/world/etc. or even the conquering of intangible concepts they dislike cause of sad flashbacks we Usually don’t get much of….
One Piece villain writing CAN Be Done for innumerable characters in questionable times of history which have also been PokéWarped in ísèkaî style!
Man Jake’s theory had me cookin at the first use of word ísèkaî!!! : D
Bravo… But maybe I’m suggesting a Bit much where we only get what feels like the Start of ALMOST doing what I’m talking but with ALL the layers of depth and amazing character writing Removed…
Hope games can NOT have a Musical Moment where there’s NO VoiceActing & No Proper Song in even Japanese Dub… that Never FEELS Complete in SwordShield dark gym battle if people get what I mean… Please Voice Acting so it feels like an open world game with humans in tech level of games 20 years ago!!!
But I would enjoy preventing Skipping Dialogue the first time BUT a NewGame+ where you don’t lose ANY of the things you got in event etc stuff Bevause if saved that you did it, it becomes Replayable in NewGame+ JUST so people can Play More without Deleting save file or having to Make Nee account and Buy stuff NO ONE wants to pay for MORE of things they’ve already bought…
Also wish I could use two controllers to have a Stadium Emulator built into Better Pokémon Home where we get an Oak’s Ranch or Whole Town which can be shifted and redesigned as you build the place with bonuses for which games you’ve bought & which you accomplished whichever things in… but I wanna stadium Battle my other save files & decide whether they’re earning XP & because Both Games are on the Card then WHY not have all that data usable?!
Maybe an Aura Training Martial Arrs meditation thing which raises Human HP for stronger areas & Makes Bond Forms & MegaForms WAY Stronger?!
All of these ideas could make the ULTIMATE Fantastical Pokémon Training Experience within whichever world….
But Dialogue Options Could ALSO make a HUGE change where finally People feel insentivised to Read to Not make Stupid mistakes…
Oh & give us A Rewind in game for any time you make a mistake ANYWHERE in all Game Modes… maybe not contest rhythm battle if you rewind 2 seconds to ensure you NEVER get less than Perfect? Maybe penalises if you’ve done it for stuff More than clicking wrong button & immediately rewinding which wouldn’t count?
Though there is Charm to Gameplay Mistakes being what makes Gamers MORE than mediocre A.I. become the standard for “Pokémon Master” status?
Anyone vibing with ANY of these ideas?! Just curious if half of this is what everyone else expects or Just stuff people Wished we had for past 25+ years???
(I expected Pokémon Game Designer on N64 when We got Tony Hawk’s Proskater & could make our own skateparks on N64! Still bloody WAITING on “Pokémon Adventure Maker” where you mix generations at will & art style casually and Character Animations & dialogue… maybe even put in your own Mic VoiceActing & People who downloaded your game can continue editing if you allow it & it has notes on it when you enter development mode… which could be locked for Some “Finished” Fan Game or Rom Hack style adventures WHERE then they give awards like who’s game becomes a Part of new C Team’s Game which are based on Fan Games now developed Officially without them Losing the magical community of young Devs with Dreams who might just be an average kid whose friends continuously help rewrite plots & events etc. til they have a Game that’s ALMOST if not Better than Official Games BUT all are accessible through the Pokémon Adventure Creator… where anyone; Feel free To IMAGINE the Potential in such a Game Right There! Getting the Modder community Rebuilt in a way that serves themselves & tPCI/etc.!
Feels foolish & stupid to have Not Done this Already whilst crushing Genuinely interesting compelling fan projects & the lives connected to them… Just sayin….
Now I’ve said Too Much…. do Excuse, yeah? : D
Anyone seeing the Big Text & thinking “oh no my eyeballs actually needing to move to process words that I may need to Think to comprehend fully!”, I must Advise;
JUST Highlight all these and use Speak Function for optimal Lulz…
Of course… : D
Cheers!
What if you get the gen 10 pokemon with kalos forms
Okay I know it sounds crazy but hear me out. What if we got mega ultra beasts?😲
all okemon from genration 1 to genration 9
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Isn't that the beginning of lets go
God they’re milking the shit out of a game with the tiniest teaser trailer
@@pengoschwortz4734 that's what content creation means, hop off if you dislike it
@@Requimpact you don’t have to milk something to an embarrassing degree to be a content creator
@@pengoschwortz4734 ok, hop off then
the holocasust technology in pokemon x and y some meessed up real life stuff hmmm it is dark isnt it hmmm
This cooked
If people are against Pokémon being in 2D, you know they are lying about supporting the National Pokédex coming back. The Necrozma and Ultra Space ideas together would have meant you can get Pokémon from other regions.
Preach Jake! ✨
Honestly, this Jake guy should probably just stick to Twitter. 😂
What if your starter is just baby zygarde
8:04 I guess Mugendina to Eternatus doesn't count.
What happened to Soul? Does anyone know because it's been a while since I've seen a vid from them.
Hey! Soul is fine and not going anywhere. He’s been traveling in Italy lately but tomorrow, we are recording and he will be there for it!
@@lumiosepost Thank's Lumi
So I had a thought about the starter thing what if the finel evolution has the same look as it’s original but gets an extra typing slapped on it like typlosion and the others did In Arceus but when mega evolving they gain a new look and a new additional typing to replace its new dual type get what I am saying
ash ketchum can have all of them hmmm blessed by the pokmeon god arceus hmmm
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Legends za new ultra beasts?
liam are you of french orogin hmmm
Non canonical unbekwicabeke what if something that literally pushes us or and pulls us literally if our skin metaphorically hmmm
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have ash ketchum continue into his jpourneys hiinto paadea hmmm
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a is areus every legends game si adn will always inolve arceus hmmm
Give us 20paets 30 parts hmm don't disband or and abandon your what it's hmm alternate universe timeline realities dimensions scenarios ash kefchumbeing a scientist engineer researcher technologist modeller wrote chef dancer he man I can't psychic army man crossovers hmmm
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I’m sorry 😒 I perfer lumi dusty and soul.
ok squidward, jake is a guest
A for az?
ash cathejuma adoctor model engger civl enginener builder artist designer music dance composer hmmm
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If the starters get megas that immediately makes my excitement for these games non existent. Making the player choose between using their mega starter and other megas they will naturally catch throughout the game is bad design. Just keep it simple give them regionals and let us choose which megas we want to use. Hard disagree with Lumi’s idea that we get no regional forms. Why give us so many megas when we can only use one at a time? Then you also have to wonder what the next legends games gimmick would be for the starters. Is it gigantimax? Because technically that gimmick gives new forms too but was way less popular. Then what if they make more than 3 legends games? I don’t know why game freak would shoot themselves in the foot by giving the starters megas and gigantamx forms for the next two games and then go back to regionals or megas again. It’s inconsistent and so against what pokemon is. Keep it simple stupid and just give us regionals. Literally if you polled the entirety of the world most people will want regionals and I think game freak knows that. Their goal is not to throw us for a loop so we should stop overthinking this.
They will definitely put regionals in the game. The merchandise is king to pokemon, whos selling more plush hisian zorua or a new mega? Plus if they announce old starters as starters for za the hype cycle pretty much runs itself.
@@joshyotoastThis argument makes no sense. We haven’t had a new mega in over a decade. If they give a new mega to a popular pokemon of course it will sell merch. And this argument also ignores the fact we barely got any regionals in paldea just wooper and 3 tauros.
lumi be like it s my vity how dare necrozama or an evil tema attack it just jokign lumi is one of th niecest chubbiest loving fun lovabel alongside dusty and soul silver art dusty shodul cosplay as a tema fkare leader and attack lumioses city lumi cosplasy asnas the palyer character or zygarde hmmm halloween do you go to the gym dusty hmmm
21:21 pokemon fans forget about GTA real hard and I don't get it.
please see my message i wodul believe that ash wodul have been stronger had he evolved allhis poakemon inclcuding poikachu lets asay taht or pretend hmmm that the epokemon woudl wasnt to evolve into their full opotential and woudl want to fall in love ith a female of their species those peokmon who that whcih didnt wasnt to evolve and neve er evolved adt all full evolution hmmm i touewld make them mre wmature non cannon anime fielrl og oc stuff fanmanga fanftioion viodegmae filelr movie moive stuff as wlel viodegae stuff manga stuff unrelatiist unthinkbale unimagainbale unthinkable unpected what if s boysoidn the box thinkignw eya more imaignation cratity audiences subriber colments suggestions ideas otherwise it owudl adn coudl very borign amen take care hmm hmmm
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Guys its pok E mon not pok eh mon lol
ash cathejuma adoctor model engger civl enginener builder artist designer music dance composer hmmm
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