The plant made me sad also. Maybe he got it to make himself feel better. Since his father said he has been struggling recently. Could have been gift for Mom, who never gave up looking. Such a sad story but maybe he was in a positive frame of mind prior to accident.
With his occupation of bartender and time of night that Kyle went missing, it’s possible he was both tired and under the influence and got lost and drove into the creek. The water isn’t clear where the vehicle was found and even in 7 feet of water it would have been concealed. Very reminiscent of the recovery of a vehicle in a creek a few years ago with 2 teenage girls missing since the 70s.
Sadly true. AWP have solved a lot of these long time missing persons cases even if they r controversial now. I feel so sad his parents never got closure
@@TheDirge69 pretty sure a woman who worked with him said he put a few down before leaving work. I think he took a back road to avoid police and wrecked.
I was thinking that, too! In rural areas it's easy to miss a turn when driving in the dark, especially if you're tired and under stress. Realizing that you've gotten lost would only increase that stress, and add distraction as you're intently scanning for road signs. I don't think alcohol is necessary for a tragic accident to take place, but if he was under the influence it wouldn't help his chances.
Anything can happen falling asleep at the wheel on a dark road, late night, in a Ford Pinto. Accidents happen 😓 and sometimes the most likely explanation is hiding in plain sight. Finding him sooner wouldn’t have saved his life but it would have brought closure to his parents 😓
I was thinking about the man who pretended to be Kyle and the one who gave false clues to police. I was reminded of the infamous Black Dahlia case where police received dozens of false reports and confessions. I would love to hear Dr Grande's analysis of why people do this.
My daughter is a 911 operator in the Dallas area and she has told me that every major crime has many wackos calling in to confess to the crime. She said that they do this because they either want to be put back in prison after having served time before or they want to be famous and known for having committed such a crime. They know that it gives them lots of street cred so they want to jump on it and ride the wave of infamy and glory that they will receive upon the police believing that they may just have been the one who committed the crime. So this is why so many call in to confess to every major crime that is committed, especially high profile crimes. My daughter told me that some of the extremely high profile crimes will get at least a couple hundred confessions and it all does nothing but cloud the issue and jam up the 911 lines because of them calling so much.
I believe that the majority of people posing as psychics are frauds, but I strongly disagree that they are ALL frauds. I think a dividing factor would be whether or not they ask for money or are obviously seeking publicity. I do believe that true psychics exist (I am related to one). However, it's not necessarily the case that they are always right, which causes so many people to doubt them. They cannot necessarily summon all the facts on command at all times, which answers the kinds of questions people ask such as "why don't they win the lottery then?"
In the 1950s I had a boy-friend whose last name was Clinkscale. He was from California, I was from Illinois and we met in NY City. I doubt they were related but it is an unusual name.
The torment suffered by the parents continually having their hopes raised and dashed in finding answers reminds me so much of an Australian tragic crime where the brave and heartbroken parents of an abducted boy found themselves in terrible situations such as digging in forests, watching or/and in communication with dangerous unsavoury people in absolute desperation for answers. Some people are sick and despicable.
*sick and despicable* Yeah, they're predators. Maybe a specific category of predator, I don't know... Like Sandy Hook parents who were harassed for years after their children were killed in that shooting.
Dear Dr. Grande:. I'm from Florida, the water table there is very high, therefore their retention ponds everywhere to hold the run off when it rains. Anytime someone goes missing and they've been driving somewhere we always say check their retention ponds. Look it up. There are a lot, and I mean a lot of cars with people inside who have driven into retention ponds in Florida and have been found months or years later. So when someone goes missing when they've been driving somewhere, the first thing I think of is what body of water did they accidentally drive into.
I'm a Florida native I lost my best friend this way although he was found after missing for 10 days in a canal on the route that he had been driving. but yes it happens here all too often I recall when a van was found in a canal in Boca Raton around 2002 or 2003 it turned out it had the remains of 4 teens that had been missing since the late 70's our black water canals are very dangerous and very concealing...
There is a common saying with regards to fortune tellers or psychics." They seem to be able to predict and receive answers through revelations about other people's misfortunes but aren't able to predict their own ". They are not gifted in order to help others by any means, they are just gifted in telling lies and making money from the vulnerables that's all.
@@TheDramacist Excuse me, but you need the quotation marks for 'psychic powers' because this power can only be possessed by psychics, especially the skills they they have is called deception!
I mean honestly has a psychic ever solved any major case? Thinking rationally doesn't really work out when it's your baby and you're desperate though I guess
A few psychics tried to get involved in the case of the missing woman in the UK. None of them had a correct prediction, they only managed to get in the way. Same could also be said about ‘search experts’ who spent more time in front of the cameras than searching, and TikTok detectives who started digging up areas as they had ‘done their research’
Dr. Grande - I just want to let you know that I really enjoy your videos late evening. Your voice is pleasant & relaxing, and your content is always quite interesting. Thank you for all the time & research you put into each video. 👍💜🌵🙏
As I was watching this i got to thinking about another place a vehicle can go missing. A guy on my road (we live in the country) has a junkyard. Some cars have been out on his property for over 40 years. No one is ever going to see those cars without a warrant. It would be a great place to "dispose" of a vehicle.
Great analysis doc! What I’ve come to is how many people lose their lives in this manner either intentionally or unintentionally. I’m glad to see the mystery is solved for this young man but sad for his parents who didn’t live to see it. 😢
I have read many articles about how much more dangerous it is for people to drive if they are emotionally unset or worried, even if not otherwise impaired. Of course, not everybody can just "not drive" when they are upset if they have responsibilities.
A woman I know, who thinks she’s a medium, failed to find her youngest son’s glasses before she took him to school, and a few years later she failed to foresee that he would be sexually abused by a stranger when walking the last 50 meters to his home alone in the dark after saying goodbye to his friends. Her “business” card said “medium clairvoyant”, but she was clearly not even that good.
What a sad case. If indeed he succumbed to a body of water, that’s such a horrible way to die. Thank you as always for the intriguing analysis, Dr. Grande.❤️
My friends and I were doing donuts on a frozen lake when the car fell through the ice. Thankfully we all were able to swim out. Life was certainly exciting back in the '70's, but I'm happy to live a calm and quiet life these days.
Heartbreaking story. I can't imagine the hell they went through. As unimaginable as it is to think of losing a child, the idea of having no closure or knowing where they are or what happened to them is so horrific it is hard to contemplate.
Thanks Dr Grande. In Victoria, Australia when I was a police officer in the 1960s, it was an offense for any person to 'tell fortunes' ie. street fortune tellers, under the old Police Offences Act.
I bought a 73 Pinto in January 1979, had it for a year and a half of high mileage use with never a problem. I ended up trading it in only because I wanted a bigger car.
I just woke up in the middle of the night and to my advantage, Dr. Grande has another interesting and fresh analysis on a very new but tragic case . Thanks Dr.
The positive is that the mystery is solved. Kind an insightful look into missing persons case --- especially the dead-end leads of an investigation and of the loved ones' quest and desperation by other means to find an answer. It's a heartbreaking case. Thank you, Dr. Grande for bring to light this case --- providing your theory and analysis ---- a proper closure 👏
Right, I tried to get a therapist to check Dr. Grande’s vids. She was an intern and she scoffed at the idea that she might learn from UA-cam. She was Mormon, they get truth from a lizard.
I always wonder how many missing people are at the bottom of a body of water in their car. Especially when a person and a car are missing for a long period of time.
Perhaps the bridge by the creek where Kyle was found didn't have guardrails in 1976. If Kyle was lost because he took a wrong turn, maybe the bridge caught him by surprise causing him to wreck. The only mystery is why was he so far off course. I would be interested in seeing a map of his route juxtaposed with the location of where he was discovered.
How was the car discovered only now when it had been sitting underwater so long? Did the level of the river drop? Did a diver or fisherman come upon it? This reminds me of a group called Adventures With Purpose who specialize in locating missing wrecks and have solved a couple dozen cold cases. Some of the vehicles they have recovered were right by the road and most were in 20 feet or less of water. It's rather eerie to think of how many wrecks with bodies you might be driving past every day.
What concerns me is the police questioning of those falsely imprisoned for Kyles death. I have read numerous peer reviewed articles from the early 2000s about this issue, and the nature of police interrogation to where a person confessed to get it over with. Very sad case. Thanks for your fantastic presentation.
I love his car. I feel awful that his parents never learned his fate 😢 I went to Auburn, it’s crazy to think I may have driven by his body at some point.
As bad as the Ford Pinto was a lot of people enjoy restoring and driving them. My work vehicle in the 1980s was a Ford Pinto hatchback. Never had any problems.
The dulcet tones of the grand Grande. I always love to hear you make sad stories somehow beautiful. I also love to learn the brilliant USA facts you impart. Who knew about a Ford Pinto? … I do feel very sorry for the parents in this situation, and the exploitation they experienced from false prophets and confessors. Their vulnerability was too great for the cheapest losers not to take advantage. ……
Yes, It was a detail only the KILLER could have known. Ergo, Dr Grande killed him and is just using this video to throw down a false trail of suspects.
@@wheeloffortunefortune oh how funny. I meant “who knew” about Ford Pintos in general. … ( they don’t exist where I live. ..). I was referring to the Grande insight into how bad they are as cars. … not “who knew” as in a clue to a killer knowledge. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I’m assuming you’re being funny, unless you are actually a wonky conspiracy theorist. …
@@MellowBellow1 Everyone knows how bad the Pinto was. There's a very famous book called "Unsafe That ANy Speed" that goes into great detail on it, Perhaps if you spent mopre time reading and less time listening to third rate internet like Dr Grande you may actually come to know something.
Perhaps drugs or alcohol were involved as well. Another question would be why could he not remove himself from the vehicle if it was relatively shallow water? Was he injured enough not to be able to or have head trauma? Of course drugs or alcohol could make that more likely too or I suppose having just woken up or being disoriented for some other reason. Did the examination of the body try to see if injury or head trauma could be the case or was it too late to be able to do that?
That's amazing that the vehicle wasn't found for so long. Not like that was some huge lake. And in 1973, no one noticed tire tracks leading off the road into the creek?
Dr. Grande, Someone else in the Comments requested that you make a video where you analyze the personality or mental health of people who prey on victims of tragedies -- like the psychics in this case, and the people who harassed Sandy Hook parents whose children died in the 2013 shooting, etc. I think that would be interesting.
Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. It is possible the young man drove to close to the edge of the bridge and went into the water. Pinto was Fords nightmare. The gasoline tank kept blowing up. Finally, Ford pulled the Pintos which didn't sell off the market. Yes, I remember when this was happening. Love your videos. Always learn something new.
Ford never " pulled the Pintos which didn't sell off the market. Yes, I remember when this was happening." They sold Pintos until 1980 after which they were replaced by the 1981 Escort model.
I had a Pinto and the engine was a nightmare. Many repairs were required. There was a major issue with the Pinto’s gas tanks exploding upon collision. I jettisoned the piece of junk asap.
My first car was 1974 pinto hatchback, never heard them called runabouts though. Anyways, I'm glad there was finally closure, it's too bad his parents didn't get it in their lifetimes though.
I believe with your vast knowledge of cars and criminality that you have hit upon a vastly under reported crime. That is murder by car. Only those with knowledge of this model would have deduced that this vehicle was capable of driver-slaughter. You are a true Clousseau!👏🏻🙃
Occasionally I read from Finnish newspapers that a car has been found from the sea or lake (I don't recall stream although possible I have missed). It must be terrible for parents and other love ones, friends etc not knowing what has happened 😓 You should live your life and move on but how to do that if there is no grave and you have no idea if person is still alive somewhere
Having owned a Ford Pinto Wagon 1974 model. I can understand how it could have ended up in the creek. Low seat position, relatively long hood for the vehicle size and driving in the dark on winding roads at night can be a serious problem. I put 73K miles on mine before the doors started to rot off. I had a few close calls under similar conditions sleep deprivation not drinking and driving can end in disaster.
A woman in my county did the same thing and wasn’t discovered for many years. The water covered the car, but it wasn’t very deep. What hindered a thorough search was her middle age, and being in a vehicle. They thought she just ran away. Pitiful!
2/22/23 I feel awful about these people playing with Kyle’s Parents, it’s not right. They just wanted answers to what happened to their son. Kyle, rip🌹
Very interesting Dr. Grande. I so despise desperate grieving parents falling for psychics. In the same vein as the Ford Pinto was the Chevrolet Vega, a terrible vehicle I luckily survived.
Some people think the vehicle was placed there more recently, but I don't think so. In my opinion, the metal on that car looks like it was in the water for a long time. Also, it would be very hard to move a vehicle in such a fragile state. I have not seen a map of the area the vehicle was found, but creeks often flood and during floods things get moved downstream. It's possible that the car may have originally been located further upstream. There is less gravity in water, so the water could move something more fragile easier than it could be moved from outside the water. It's possible it could have entered the creek from another road. Of course, this is all theory and I have not seen the area that I'm theorizing on, so take that as you may. Just throwing out some ideas.
Thank you, Dr. Grande. This is so sad. Maybe you could do a short about the girl who is claiming to be Madeleine McCann? That would be a happy miracle if it’s her.
20 years after this kid disappeared, Hollywood screenwriter Gary Devore vanished while driving home. His remains were also found inside his Jeep, in the California Aqueduct, at the south end of Palmdale, CA, when some aqueduct workers were doing routine maintenance, a year after he disappeared.
The part about the Ford Pinto brought back childhood memories. We had TWO of them growing up. Absolute pieces of junk. I remember the station-wagon one we had would continue to run for 3-5 seconds after turning off the car. So you'd be walking towards the house and it was still sputtering. And what genius thought it was a good idea to put the gas tank directly behind the rear bumper, lol. No wonder they would catch fire and/or blow up if hit from behind, hahaha.
It wasn't the only car with a rear tank, but it was the only car well known for tank rupture, because there were some bolts sticking out from the rear axle that would rupture the tank.
The son of a friend of mine drove into water at an old strip mine. It was night and he was returning from a party. Although police searched the water, they did not have equipment to search all the way down. When better equipment was eventually developed, it was used to search the pool again and the car, with the boy's remains in it, was found at the bottom. It was about 6 years later, as I recall.
This man probably fell sleep at the wheel driving bk at night from his job, and veered in the pond. 😢It’s sad that people would go so far to make up lies and implement themselves in something they wasn’t apart of… 🤦♀️
What is wrong with people? Parents are looking for leads for their missing son and here comes Mr. Earl Jones making up a bogus story to waste everyone’s time, then gets arrested and serves 7 years for it. All for nothing. Congratulations sir.
Chambers County is between Auburn and LaGrange. There are so many shortcuts he could have known of and taken. I think he fell asleep at the wheel. So sorry that his parents worried for years until their deaths.
I'm sad that so many false leads were given to the parents.
I’m still sad they cancelled Flipper
They fooled themselves.
@@Lopfff 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Lopfff seriously lmao 🤣🤣🤣
Hearing that he bought a potted plant just before his disappearance makes me so sad. He just wanted a little plant, man…
The plant made me sad also.
Maybe he got it to make himself feel better. Since his father said he has been struggling recently. Could have been gift for Mom, who never gave up looking.
Such a sad story but maybe he was in a positive frame of mind prior to accident.
With his occupation of bartender and time of night that Kyle went missing, it’s possible he was both tired and under the influence and got lost and drove into the creek. The water isn’t clear where the vehicle was found and even in 7 feet of water it would have been concealed. Very reminiscent of the recovery of a vehicle in a creek a few years ago with 2 teenage girls missing since the 70s.
Sadly true. AWP have solved a lot of these long time missing persons cases even if they r controversial now. I feel so sad his parents never got closure
a possible assumption to connect being a bartender to being DUI, I didn't think of that...
@@TheDirge69 pretty sure a woman who worked with him said he put a few down before leaving work. I think he took a back road to avoid police and wrecked.
For 40 years?!?! That’s insane he was right there and nobody ever saw the car. People fishing or throwing rocks or swimming? Never? Hard to believe
I was thinking that, too! In rural areas it's easy to miss a turn when driving in the dark, especially if you're tired and under stress. Realizing that you've gotten lost would only increase that stress, and add distraction as you're intently scanning for road signs. I don't think alcohol is necessary for a tragic accident to take place, but if he was under the influence it wouldn't help his chances.
Anything can happen falling asleep at the wheel on a dark road, late night, in a Ford Pinto. Accidents happen 😓 and sometimes the most likely explanation is hiding in plain sight. Finding him sooner wouldn’t have saved his life but it would have brought closure to his parents 😓
Let’s not forget he Gluc-gluc’ed quite a bit while driving, probably a regular thing as ppl love buying bartenders drinks.
I couldn’t imagine the anguish felt by a parents of a missing person. Thx Dr Grande ❤
His poor parents never knew what happened to him and where targeted by others. Always enjoy listening to your thoughts and opinions!
I like to think these questions are immediately answered when one crosses over.
Dr gaslight
@@fullaish5684 I'm very confused by your comment. What do you mean by "Dr gaslight" ? can you please explain?
I was thinking about the man who pretended to be Kyle and the one who gave false clues to police. I was reminded of the infamous Black Dahlia case where police received dozens of false reports and confessions. I would love to hear Dr Grande's analysis of why people do this.
I would like to hear his thoughts on the girl claiming to be Madeleine McCann. I hope it’s her.
Wackos, the Sam's who ride in ufo s.
@@Husky-Raccoon that’s not likely. I’m convinced it’s a sick individual who gets a kick out of the attention and the distress they cause.
Great topic idea. I am betting people are simply delusional, having a deep desire to be needed in order to avoid feelings of abandonment.
My daughter is a 911 operator in the Dallas area and she has told me that every major crime has many wackos calling in to confess to the crime. She said that they do this because they either want to be put back in prison after having served time before or they want to be famous and known for having committed such a crime. They know that it gives them lots of street cred so they want to jump on it and ride the wave of infamy and glory that they will receive upon the police believing that they may just have been the one who committed the crime. So this is why so many call in to confess to every major crime that is committed, especially high profile crimes. My daughter told me that some of the extremely high profile crimes will get at least a couple hundred confessions and it all does nothing but cloud the issue and jam up the 911 lines because of them calling so much.
It’s nice his remains were finally found, but it’s very unfortunate what happened with his parents after he disappeared.
Wish the detectives actually figured it out but they sucked
My heart breaks 💔for his poor parents. I despise the vulture like nature of psychics.... Just preying on bereaved people 🤬
I believe that the majority of people posing as psychics are frauds, but I strongly disagree that they are ALL frauds. I think a dividing factor would be whether or not they ask for money or are obviously seeking publicity. I do believe that true psychics exist (I am related to one). However, it's not necessarily the case that they are always right, which causes so many people to doubt them. They cannot necessarily summon all the facts on command at all times, which answers the kinds of questions people ask such as "why don't they win the lottery then?"
Worst kind of charlatans
There are a lot of deer in Chambers County, Alabama. It is possible that he swerved to miss a deer and landed in the creek.
In the 1950s I had a boy-friend whose last name was Clinkscale. He was from California, I was from Illinois and we met in NY City. I doubt they were related but it is an unusual name.
That's interesting.
I always notice unusual names, too.
With a name like that I’d bet money they were related.
The torment suffered by the parents continually having their hopes raised and dashed in finding answers reminds me so much of an Australian tragic crime where the brave and heartbroken parents of an abducted boy found themselves in terrible situations such as digging in forests, watching or/and in communication with dangerous unsavoury people in absolute desperation for answers. Some people are sick and despicable.
*sick and despicable*
Yeah, they're predators.
Maybe a specific category of predator, I don't know...
Like Sandy Hook parents who were harassed for years after their children were killed in that shooting.
Never heard of this case..very interesting!! So sorry his parents passed prior to the discovery🥺
Dear Dr. Grande:. I'm from Florida, the water table there is very high, therefore their retention ponds everywhere to hold the run off when it rains. Anytime someone goes missing and they've been driving somewhere we always say check their retention ponds. Look it up. There are a lot, and I mean a lot of cars with people inside who have driven into retention ponds in Florida and have been found months or years later. So when someone goes missing when they've been driving somewhere, the first thing I think of is what body of water did they accidentally drive into.
I'm a Florida native I lost my best friend this way although he was found after missing for 10 days in a canal on the route that he had been driving. but yes it happens here all too often I recall when a van was found in a canal in Boca Raton around 2002 or 2003 it turned out it had the remains of 4 teens that had been missing since the late 70's our black water canals are very dangerous and very concealing...
@@Cruiserweight190 Yeah, I remember that. Extremely sad.
This just happened to a family friend. He and his car were found in a canal a few days later.
Water disappears people all the time
There is a common saying with regards to fortune tellers or psychics." They seem to be able to predict and receive answers through revelations about other people's misfortunes but aren't able to predict their own ". They are not gifted in order to help others by any means, they are just gifted in telling lies and making money from the vulnerables that's all.
So sad about the parents succumbing to the influence of the psychics.
I have psychic powers 🔮 I forsee that you will give me your money if I tell you what you want to hear
@@TheDramacist Excuse me, but you need the quotation marks for 'psychic powers' because this power can only be possessed by psychics, especially the skills they they have is called deception!
@@TheDramacist
If only people weren’t so gullible, and “psychics” were as forthcoming.
I mean honestly has a psychic ever solved any major case? Thinking rationally doesn't really work out when it's your baby and you're desperate though I guess
A few psychics tried to get involved in the case of the missing woman in the UK. None of them had a correct prediction, they only managed to get in the way. Same could also be said about ‘search experts’ who spent more time in front of the cameras than searching, and TikTok detectives who started digging up areas as they had ‘done their research’
Dr. Grande - I just want to let you know that I really enjoy your videos late evening. Your voice is pleasant & relaxing, and your content is always quite interesting. Thank you for all the time & research you put into each video. 👍💜🌵🙏
As I was watching this i got to thinking about another place a vehicle can go missing. A guy on my road (we live in the country) has a junkyard. Some cars have been out on his property for over 40 years. No one is ever going to see those cars without a warrant. It would be a great place to "dispose" of a vehicle.
Great analysis doc! What I’ve come to is how many people lose their lives in this manner either intentionally or unintentionally. I’m glad to see the mystery is solved for this young man but sad for his parents who didn’t live to see it. 😢
Yep doing what the detectives failed
I have read many articles about how much more dangerous it is for people to drive if they are emotionally unset or worried, even if not otherwise impaired. Of course, not everybody can just "not drive" when they are upset if they have responsibilities.
I can’t believe so many people lied and said they knew what happened. Those poor parents.
A woman I know, who thinks she’s a medium, failed to find her youngest son’s glasses before she took him to school, and a few years later she failed to foresee that he would be sexually abused by a stranger when walking the last 50 meters to his home alone in the dark after saying goodbye to his friends.
Her “business” card said “medium clairvoyant”, but she was clearly not even that good.
What a sad case. If indeed he succumbed to a body of water, that’s such a horrible way to die.
Thank you as always for the intriguing analysis, Dr. Grande.❤️
My friends and I were doing donuts on a frozen lake when the car fell through the ice. Thankfully we all were able to swim out. Life was certainly exciting back in the '70's, but I'm happy to live a calm and quiet life these days.
WTH does that have to do with anything?
@@jadepaulsen8456 umm maybe because this case is about a VEHICLE IN WATER?
Heartbreaking story. I can't imagine the hell they went through. As unimaginable as it is to think of losing a child, the idea of having no closure or knowing where they are or what happened to them is so horrific it is hard to contemplate.
I feel that Dr. Grande's theory is the most plausible. It's sad that his parents had to live out their lives never knowing what happened to their son.
Thanks Dr Grande. In Victoria, Australia when I was a police officer in the 1960s, it was an offense for any person to 'tell fortunes' ie. street fortune tellers, under the old Police Offences Act.
Dr Grande is the BEST. I would love to meet him and shake his hand. Seems to be the kind of man I could talk to for hours. So much respect.
I bought a 73 Pinto in January 1979, had it for a year and a half of high mileage use with never a problem. I ended up trading it in only because I wanted a bigger car.
When the car was pulled from creek the keys were in the ignition and the transmission was in gear, not neutral
He fell asleep and drove into the creek
Love catching these late night videos! Thank you Dr. Grande
I just woke up in the middle of the night and to my advantage, Dr. Grande has another interesting and fresh analysis on a very new but tragic case . Thanks Dr.
I'm sorry for his family, they never gave up looking for him !💐💐💐
The positive is that the mystery is solved. Kind an insightful look into missing persons case --- especially the dead-end leads of an investigation and of the loved ones' quest and desperation by other means to find an answer. It's a heartbreaking case.
Thank you, Dr. Grande for bring to light this case --- providing your theory and analysis ---- a proper closure 👏
Not only solved, but for a change, evil human intervention didn’t play a role. It was an accident. Nice change of pace.
Thank You, Doctor Grande !!! ---I am watching this video with my court-appointed psychiatrist ☺ 👍
Right, I tried to get a therapist to check Dr. Grande’s vids. She was an intern and she scoffed at the idea that she might learn from UA-cam. She was Mormon, they get truth from a lizard.
I am reminded of the famous Australian case of the missing Beaumont children - psychics and cranks featured there and still do …..
Yesss king go off
I always wonder how many missing people are at the bottom of a body of water in their car. Especially when a person and a car are missing for a long period of time.
Perhaps the bridge by the creek where Kyle was found didn't have guardrails in 1976. If Kyle was lost because he took a wrong turn, maybe the bridge caught him by surprise causing him to wreck. The only mystery is why was he so far off course. I would be interested in seeing a map of his route juxtaposed with the location of where he was discovered.
How was the car discovered only now when it had been sitting underwater so long? Did the level of the river drop? Did a diver or fisherman come upon it?
This reminds me of a group called Adventures With Purpose who specialize in locating missing wrecks and have solved a couple dozen cold cases. Some of the vehicles they have recovered were right by the road and most were in 20 feet or less of water. It's rather eerie to think of how many wrecks with bodies you might be driving past every day.
The rear hatch back popped up above the stream surface, and a passing motorist saw it and reported it.
@@paulcarpenter999 Ah ok thx. What a bizarre way to find the car, sitting right there all this time.
Totally agree- and especially with the eerie feel to it. Can u expand on 411 re: this organization you mentioned?
Photo is hinky. Car barely rusted after almost 50 years and windows clean?
@@anne-marieh6128 just search Adventures with Purpose here on UA-cam. It will come right up. Love their channel!
AGAIN a perfect video. Thank You, Dr. Grande.
Sorry for Kyle and his parents.😢 Very sad story🙏
What concerns me is the police questioning of those falsely imprisoned for Kyles death. I have read numerous peer reviewed articles from the early 2000s about this issue, and the nature of police interrogation to where a person confessed to get it over with. Very sad case. Thanks for your fantastic presentation.
I love his car. I feel awful that his parents never learned his fate 😢 I went to Auburn, it’s crazy to think I may have driven by his body at some point.
As bad as the Ford Pinto was a lot of people enjoy restoring and driving them. My work vehicle in the 1980s was a Ford Pinto hatchback. Never had any problems.
The dulcet tones of the grand Grande. I always love to hear you make sad stories somehow beautiful. I also love to learn the brilliant USA facts you impart. Who knew about a Ford Pinto? … I do feel very sorry for the parents in this situation, and the exploitation they experienced from false prophets and confessors. Their vulnerability was too great for the cheapest losers not to take advantage. ……
Those ever disgusting physics false misleading windbags smoke in the eyes opportunists steer clear of their gimmicky lies .
*brilliant USA facts*
Yes, It was a detail only the KILLER could have known. Ergo, Dr Grande killed him and is just using this video to throw down a false trail of suspects.
@@wheeloffortunefortune oh how funny. I meant “who knew” about Ford Pintos in general. … ( they don’t exist where I live. ..). I was referring to the Grande insight into how bad they are as cars. … not “who knew” as in a clue to a killer knowledge. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I’m assuming you’re being funny, unless you are actually a wonky conspiracy theorist. …
@@MellowBellow1 Everyone knows how bad the Pinto was. There's a very famous book called "Unsafe That ANy Speed" that goes into great detail on it, Perhaps if you spent mopre time reading and less time listening to third rate internet like Dr Grande you may actually come to know something.
Dr, Grande, thank you for such a clear analysis. It is sad his parents didn’t have any closure for Kyle.😇❤❄from Jean.
Perhaps drugs or alcohol were involved as well. Another question would be why could he not remove himself from the vehicle if it was relatively shallow water? Was he injured enough not to be able to or have head trauma? Of course drugs or alcohol could make that more likely too or I suppose having just woken up or being disoriented for some other reason. Did the examination of the body try to see if injury or head trauma could be the case or was it too late to be able to do that?
That's amazing that the vehicle wasn't found for so long. Not like that was some huge lake. And in 1973, no one noticed tire tracks leading off the road into the creek?
Dr. Grande,
Someone else in the Comments requested that you make a video where you analyze the personality or mental health of people who prey on victims of tragedies -- like the psychics in this case, and the people who harassed Sandy Hook parents whose children died in the 2013 shooting, etc.
I think that would be interesting.
Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. It is possible the young man drove to close to the edge of the bridge and went into the water.
Pinto was Fords nightmare. The gasoline tank kept blowing up. Finally, Ford pulled the Pintos which didn't sell off the market. Yes, I remember when this was happening.
Love your videos. Always learn something new.
Ford never " pulled the Pintos which didn't sell off the market. Yes, I remember when this was happening." They sold Pintos until 1980 after which they were replaced by the 1981 Escort model.
@@althunder4269 thank you for correcting me.
I had a Pinto and the engine was a nightmare. Many repairs were required.
There was a major issue with the Pinto’s gas tanks exploding upon collision.
I jettisoned the piece of junk asap.
My first car was 1974 pinto hatchback, never heard them called runabouts though. Anyways, I'm glad there was finally closure, it's too bad his parents didn't get it in their lifetimes though.
The detectives failed. It's a situation where the simple answer was the correct answer and this should have been solved decades ago.
Dr Grande is amazing in his analysis and quality of content!
I believe with your vast knowledge of cars and criminality that you have hit upon a vastly under reported crime. That is murder by car. Only those with knowledge of this model would have deduced that this vehicle was capable of driver-slaughter. You are a true Clousseau!👏🏻🙃
You always generate a startled chuckle from me that’s for sure! 😅😂
I drove a Pinto. Anything over 55mph and you were taking your chances.
Occasionally I read from Finnish newspapers that a car has been found from the sea or lake (I don't recall stream although possible I have missed). It must be terrible for parents and other love ones, friends etc not knowing what has happened 😓 You should live your life and move on but how to do that if there is no grave and you have no idea if person is still alive somewhere
I appreciate your final analysis/ last statement. Nicely done once again.
Thanks Dr Grande, you’re the BEST.🙏
Having owned a Ford Pinto Wagon 1974 model. I can understand how it could have ended up in the creek. Low seat position, relatively long hood for the vehicle size and driving in the dark on winding roads at night can be a serious problem. I put 73K miles on mine before the doors started to rot off. I had a few close calls under similar conditions sleep deprivation not drinking and driving can end in disaster.
😭 this is so sad! Thank you as always, doctor Grande
Thanks for your dedication, your hard work is appreciated.
Poor soul. In the dark water alone all these years.
A woman in my county did the same thing and wasn’t discovered for many years. The water covered the car, but it wasn’t very deep. What hindered a thorough search was her middle age, and being in a vehicle. They thought she just ran away. Pitiful!
This happens every now and then that someone loses control and nobody finds then years and even decades later. So sad.
Those damn Psychics need to be arrested for Fraud.
I love your calm and soothing voice Doctor. 🙏🙏
I wonder what road conditions and weather were like the night Kyle disappeared.
I used to have a pinto. That thing was a disaster. Steering, brakes, radiator... All trash.
I love Dr. Grande
Love your consistency Dr. Grande, seems I always wake up in the morning to a notification for your new video. An excellent way to start my day
Good evening, Dr. Grande.❤
2/22/23 I feel awful about these people playing with Kyle’s Parents, it’s not right. They just wanted answers to what happened to their son. Kyle, rip🌹
Very interesting Dr. Grande. I so despise desperate grieving parents falling for psychics. In the same vein as the Ford Pinto was the Chevrolet Vega, a terrible vehicle I luckily survived.
Lucky is right. When I heard Pinto I thought Vega, too.
As always great analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande!
I look forward to your videos uploaded at night. Could I request you do an analysis about the train derailment that occurred in East Palestine, Ohio?
I'm glad they found him.
I'm glad your not a sicko, Dr. Grande. Let's continue this week's episode...
Love your sarcasm as always. I can only dream of being that good! 😆
Some people think the vehicle was placed there more recently, but I don't think so. In my opinion, the metal on that car looks like it was in the water for a long time. Also, it would be very hard to move a vehicle in such a fragile state. I have not seen a map of the area the vehicle was found, but creeks often flood and during floods things get moved downstream. It's possible that the car may have originally been located further upstream. There is less gravity in water, so the water could move something more fragile easier than it could be moved from outside the water. It's possible it could have entered the creek from another road. Of course, this is all theory and I have not seen the area that I'm theorizing on, so take that as you may. Just throwing out some ideas.
Thank you, Dr. Grande. This is so sad. Maybe you could do a short about the girl who is claiming to be Madeleine McCann? That would be a happy miracle if it’s her.
very sad story but well told as always Dr. Grande.
As usual, the dry wit is abundantly evident and thoroughly enjoyable...
The odd thing is, how can I take 47 years to find a submerged car in the shallow creek?🤔
I seem to be one of the few people who have not killed anyone yet and I take great pride in that.
Good to see you so soon, Dr. Grande.
My Analysis- I think you are Absolutely Correct! Wait....
Who, What, When, Where, Why ??????!!!!!!!👌
Strange case & names🐾🚗. Good analysis again & glad I caught this before bed. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙
20 years after this kid disappeared, Hollywood screenwriter Gary Devore vanished while driving home. His remains were also found inside his Jeep, in the California Aqueduct, at the south end of Palmdale, CA, when some aqueduct workers were doing routine maintenance, a year after he disappeared.
There was a similar case of a guy missing in Florida and he was found inside a lake many years later 😢
It's too bad that Kyle's parents didn't get closure. Also, how can these so-called "psychics" do these things to people. How can they live with that?
Maybe they believe their own bullshit.
It's cool how some people can pop a joke with a straight face and it almost goes unnoticed. I have a cousin like that.
The part about the Ford Pinto brought back childhood memories. We had TWO of them growing up. Absolute pieces of junk. I remember the station-wagon one we had would continue to run for 3-5 seconds after turning off the car. So you'd be walking towards the house and it was still sputtering. And what genius thought it was a good idea to put the gas tank directly behind the rear bumper, lol. No wonder they would catch fire and/or blow up if hit from behind, hahaha.
It wasn't the only car with a rear tank, but it was the only car well known for tank rupture, because there were some bolts sticking out from the rear axle that would rupture the tank.
The son of a friend of mine drove into water at an old strip mine. It was night and he was returning from a party. Although police searched the water, they did not have equipment to search all the way down. When better equipment was eventually developed, it was used to search the pool again and the car, with the boy's remains in it, was found at the bottom. It was about 6 years later, as I recall.
Tragic.
This man probably fell sleep at the wheel driving bk at night from his job, and veered in the pond. 😢It’s sad that people would go so far to make up lies and implement themselves in something they wasn’t apart of… 🤦♀️
What is wrong with people? Parents are looking for leads for their missing son and here comes Mr. Earl Jones making up a bogus story to waste everyone’s time, then gets arrested and serves 7 years for it. All for nothing. Congratulations sir.
This is why we need Adventures with Purpose.. They would’ve found him all those years ago if the technology was available
I've seen Adventures with Purpose too many times not to know what was coming. He'd been working, I'm more apt to think he fell asleep
Chambers County is between Auburn and LaGrange. There are so many shortcuts he could have known of and taken. I think he fell asleep at the wheel. So sorry that his parents worried for years until their deaths.
Please do the case of Karlie Guse!😭
In 1976, it was very common for bar tenders to drink with guests and very common for folks to drive drunk. 😔
Thank you Dr. Grande, your channel has become one of my favorites based on your analysis and insight. Looking forward to the next one 👍
Right, but bar tenders do work late. It's possible he was very 😴 tired.