TOOL SOBER HOW IT WAS WRITTEN AND MORE
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2019
- Tool Sober... The two are almost synonymous at this point! A stepping stone to most new listeners of the band and the song that began the journey of this critically acclaimed and very much loved quartet from Los Angeles! And this is EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW about TOOL's SOBER!
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*TOOL - SOBER (LIVE READING FESTIVAL 1993)
• Tool - Sober Live (Pro...
*TOOL - SOBER (72826 DEMO)
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* C.A.D. - Burn About Out (Public Access TV, Grand Rapids, Michigan)
• C.A.D.-Early Sober (Ma...
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That live performance of sober gives me chills every. fucking. time.
Yup! True that!
my favourite version
The whole album is a master piece. The Demo Tape is amazing.
It's crazy to think of Tool as a "new artist" lol
True that! But time flies like crazy!
@@saysthemanbehindthemask Faster and faster every year.
As someone who doesn’t take dmt and isn’t up on numerology or whatever they structure their songs around this is my favorite Tool song. I know hardcore fans flinch when they hear this but I just could never get into their other stuff. I can tell it’s deep, intricate, artsy stuff but it just isn’t for me. Sober has those dark guitars with the hard hitting drums and Maynard’s vocals are on point, that’s good enough for me.
I understand... Tool is not for everyone... I could not get into them like at all back in the day but as I explored music over the years I guess my tastes matured and they became number 1 to me. So I wouldn’t count them out if I were you... you may still truly get into their music in the future.
I love Tool, but the hardcore fans have started to ruin that for me.
Its by far the fans that likes their smell of their own farts the most ive ever meet.
If im in a party and i meet one of them, i just go away, as they suck the fun out of Tool and parties.
Forgot the bass. That bass hits thick and hard.
Hardcore TOOL fan here. Great to hear this is your favorite song, great to hear that anyone has a favorite TOOL song, also great to hear that some people don't like TOOL as well. Diversity is what it's all about, it's what everything is all about. Not all TOOL fans get that.
“46 & 2” will elevate ur chakras
Tool are my favorites. Kurt was one of the greatest songwriters that ever lived.
Who cares what anyone thinks of anyone elses music if YOU like it.
Nirvana did kick the door down so that people could be exposed to a band like Tool.
Whats more interesting is seeing how Melvins influenced so much in alt music
This is the track that gets you hooked, heard it live and very unsober lifts you off your seat.....especially the start.
I installed Maynard alarm system at his house, Vinyard and restaurant. He will kick you out of his house if you wear shoes in side. He has tiles cut from the giza plateu for flooring.
Is this real life or a meme
Is this a joke or is this true?
Maynard Lived Here in My Home Town of Grand Rapids,mi.
I just visited his Residence that he used to live in Yesterday. \m/
That's a very strange thing to do and/or boast about.
@@Odd_Combo he doesn't even live in the residence so it's not like he said he even went to his actual house. Not that weird. People leave their Houses as museums so others can do literally that what he did 🤷♂️
@@Odd_Combo You must have never heard about the "American football" house. I think that's the right name, not my genre of music. Anyways, they were some scene band in the Midwest (forget the exact state) and their album had a picture of some house on it that college kids rented and the band lived in at some point. The band developed a huge underground following and people went out of their way to go to that college, the house was rented out for like double the value of some poorly maintained college property and people went to go see the house all the time. That's some underground scene band, MJK from tool, a perfect circle, puscifer... Yeah, not a surprise fans go to see his old residence. Not like OP drove to another state or even another city, it's in his hometown. Strange would be driving/flying/etc from Grand Rapids all the way to Arizona in an attempt to try to meet the guy in person or something imo, checking out his old place that's only a short distance away is just something different to do for part of an afternoon.
Awesome video dude. Definitely deserves more views. I know I'm late to the party, but regardless keep at it!
Cheers! Glad you liked it. Check out my documentary on Undertow if you haven’t already.
Hearing Kurt Cobain talking about Tool kind of blew my mind. I didn't realize he was still alive when Undertow took off. That bridges together two of the most influential artists of my childhood - neat! Criticism aside, I wonder if he dug their music.
I imagine he did. Early Tool had similar vibe to that of Grunge… well I guess the heavy side of grunge. With the exception of Tool being more complex but Tool had a hook in every song very much like grunge did
i got the impression Kurt wasnt aware of much more than what was on mtv- ie the sober clip. Keep in mind Undertow was only out for pretty much a year on the dot when Kurt died. Given their tour schedule in that final year and his drug and marital issues,.... id put my money on him being in the dark.
Idk. Kurt seemed like a little pretentious bitch. I was more of a tool AIC Soundgarden
Undertow: 1993, kurts death: 1994
He hated their music.
Hey just found this video bro I thought I knew everything about this song. Well I'm glad I was wrong cause I love learning any and everything about songs I love. Thanks look forward to watching more of you.
Hey! Thank you, glad you liked it! You should definitely watch my documentary on Undertow. It’s very in depth and is loaded with interesting information.
@@saysthemanbehindthemask will do. I'm not sure the album its from but I remember being a Kid watching MTV and seeing them shoot a piano with a shotgun for some sound to put on a album.
Love ❤️ Tool . Toolhead
I met Maynard backstage in 02 Biloxi coleseum. I was tearing down my kit and heard a voice making fun of Lars Ulrich. I yelled out something not knowing where it was going to, "The only drummer to grow less intricate over the years"....Laughter along with "Facts" ....Was heard. UPON grabbing my bass drum, and reaching to make sure the kick pedal was off , a hand came and said...Dude I got ya. It was maynard. The guy took the pedal off and put it in the sound hole. Pat me on the back and said "Dude killer show bro"...I would listen to them a bit while drinking with my buddies on side stage with the crew and was extremely blown away. Tool ....Holy shit. What I'd give to just chill and talk to him and jam too. Hahah
Oh man I wish they kept the whispering part from the demo right before the chorus. The song is already dark but that gives it a more sinister vibe, plus you'd get the volume dynamic of the whispered trust me with the chorus being belted out.
Also wish Paul would have stayed on as the bass player. One of the best things about Undertow is the uttilization of the bass. I think if he would have stayed he could have joined the short list of bassists people actually pay attention to.
They did
Also word is Paul wasn't as willing to take less money to have more control over how they write/release/record the music.
Sorry but Justin Chancellor is 100x better bass player... He's the one who created the sound that Tool has today..
I remember Maynard wore a shirt once that said free Frances Bean
Of course Kurt had every right to make such a criticism, simply because NOBODY is above criticism. We can all criticize anythiing we feel is deserving of criticism. Just as so many people did, and still do Criticize Kurt and Nirvana. It is what it is, and we get over it.
I agree completely. I don’t quite understand that a lot of people say he’s not allowed to criticise because he also was inspired by other musicians. Not to mention that nirvana was around as a signed artist 4 years before TOOL was. Of course people are gonna ask Kurt what he thinks of new bands. I really don’t have a dog in this fight tbh. I respect and love both TOOL and NIRVANA but for different reasons and regardless whether either of them ripped off someone’s music or an art style for a music video. All I know is that both bands made me feel a certain way and I appreciate them both. Regardless of who inspired who
@@saysthemanbehindthemask Totally. I am a huge Nirvana fan. I guess you could say I'm much more on the metal end of the whole alternative / grunge thing. I didn't even really get into tool until much later. As a guitar player, I try not to limit myself in what I learn to play, or what I let influence me. But yes, I am a fan of both bands, for they serve very different moods really well 😁🤘
lol Kurt is one to talk, didn't they steal the idea for Heart Shaped Box from another video director ?
@@bubblebreeze1635 He owes so much musically to the Pixies that it's not even funny
So many of his hits he got riffs lyrics from other bands and solo artists. Him talking about a video is a bit stupid.
awesome
Cheers bud! I especially enjoy making TOOL videos!
@@saysthemanbehindthemask you're welcome I especially like watching them. keep up the good work
Kurt's critisisms are strange seeing as his aneurysm album cover borrowed from this style, and the music itself from sonic youth.
True true. He was into collages and stuff which were quite of a similar style of Br. Quay.
That's fine... it's a learning curve for me, English being my second language obviously. But my vocabulary is pretty vast so I just need to work on my delivery obviously. I guess I was focusing on just delivering the information instead of being over the top and kinda fake entertaining like most channels do with lazy slideshow visuals, I guess you must enjoy those... If you like TOOL you should watch this > GENIUS OF TOOL: UNDERTOW | THE MAKING OF < most detailed video on Undertow you will find. I put much more time and effort into that. Accent is far less annoying especially as the video progresses.
Anything Kurt says was while he was under the influence or in withdrawal.
Don't forget the riff he ripped off from Killing Joke
I think similar, inspired by ect are one thing. Sober's video was more çopy than similar. Using dead stuff, fetuses ect is also a bit different than making pipes with meat flowing through them. That's a one for one type thing. Aka a rip off. Either way though imitation is the best form of flattery.
Kurt sounds so faded in that interview, like he just fixed in the bathroom, came out and lit a cigarette as he started talking... I'm not sure what he wanted, imitation is the highest form of flattery so really, it's just showing their appreciation for the stylistic choice used by others before them. Very few things in this world are truly original, they're all inspired by something and that inspiration shows in some way. As long as it's not a direct rip off, take it for what it is and appreciate the fact that someone would appreciate something themselves enough to imitate it in the first place. With something as complex as art, it's extremely difficult to see or hear something new that can't be compared to another thing that was made before it, try to find what's unique, not what isn't.
more great even handed analysis
Rhythm, drums, lead is from: The Eagles - Those Shoes. Check it out. Cool song.
It is.
You can definitely hear the similarities, but not enough for copyright infringement though. It definitely sounds closer than Come as you are by Nirvana sounds to that Godzilla song..
Sober is how I discovered tool.
Schism for me
Seems like a lot of super successful bands are often posers of their original base image when they started. Kurt barely ever changed much from beginning to end. He was a true pioneer.
Yuh he was unique in that way... he never really let all the fame get to his head...
Pioneer of what? Mediocre music?
Kurt was a poser himself the way he acted, dressed, and musically. He didn’t create the “grunge” era of rock.
I love both bands and vocalist. That being said, I think Kurt was a little jealous that Tool were inspired by the same brothers as Nirvana. Both bands Art shows it. Now I totally disagree with what Danny Carey said about Kurt posthumous, saying they lost a Grammy to a dead junkie. That's cold.
Oh damn! Did he really say that? Didn’t know… I don’t like that… everyone has their own issues to battle their own way… just reducing Kurt to a “junkie” is not cool… not at all… by that logic we can reduce probably over 60% of rock and metal artists to mere junkies
@@saysthemanbehindthemask I watch a lot of old Tool interviews, and I can't remember exactly the one, but it's on UA-cam somewhere. It shouldn't be hard to find. It shocked me a little when he said it. It sounded so cold. Again I think there was a little jealousy there
@@saysthemanbehindthemask I found it. It's on the Tool Tube channel, and the video is literally called, "Danny Carey, Beat out by a dead junkie."
Tool doesn't pull punches, so why sugar coat the response to Kurt! "Shameless, should be slapped on the wrist" Cold & Ugly is Tool 🔧 which mirrors this thing we live called life!!
P.S. Kurt wasn't even the most talented member of his own band. 🥶 🧊 ☃️ 🧥 ❄
@@DannyLeeOGT Tool was also about being subtle and so was Nirvana. Duality. If you lost someone from addiction, you might have some empathy. Than again, I don't trust anyone with two first names😂. Joking. I made a mistake too. It wasn't a Grammy, it was the # 1 spot on the Billboard 200. You can tell they were a little jealous of each other, but I think that's a good thing. That means they have similar taste in great art. Danny could have just said we got beat by a band we don't think is as good as us. I don't talk bad about the dead. That's bad vibes. Now to humans and whatever some of these other things walking around braindead, I'll talk shit to their face, even if I'm not serious.😉 It's been fun, but I have to get ready for work. ✌️
Kurt was totally joking- but I can see why people would think that he's Tool bashing, he's not. It's just his sense of humor really. The lol was the slap on the wrist comment. Imo tho.
Self appointed judges judge 👩⚖️ he’s a subtle subject but if you get it, you kno, you see he’s subverting humans commonality of shallow (mis)interpretations of spectrum loving
You should do a video on their first release: Opiate.
Oh damn! You actually got a good point there! Especially since a new version came out recently. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@saysthemanbehindthemask I had no idea that they released a new version! Definitely going to check it out! Thanks!🤘
Great marry christmas
Thanks man! Merry Christmas to you as well bud!
Kurt didn't have that ground to stand on. He himself ripped others off. I still love Kurt and Tool though.
@Frank Lopez no you don't. Stop posting this same comment over and over again. Go listen to your Guns and Posers albums. (I know you love them)
@Frank Lopez I'd like to see it
Dude Teem Spirt and Come As You Are are a rip off.
Paul=Lusk=Amazing!
This song is about being Sober of religion, particularly Christianity. He sings as if in first person view of Jesus speaking. "I am just a worthless liar. I am just an imbecile. Trust in me and fall as well". Alot of early Tools message is antichristian like in the song Opiate where he uses the same exact technique of speaking in first person pretending to be Jesus; "My gods will speaks through me. we both want to rape you". then you have Eulogy where he said "Come down. get off your fuckin cross. we need the fucking space to nail the next fool martyr". So you get the idea. Earlier Tool was more focused on that subject.
Alot of people struggle to figure out Tool song meanings but really its either Antichristianity like the ones mentioned, A personal experience or joke like in Hooker with a penis, Rosetta Stoned, H, ect. ,some "New Age" ideology like the song 46&2, or its a straightforward song about self transformative occultism, which isnt as mysterious and spooky as it sounds; Like in Parabola, Stinkfist, Lateralus, Reflection, Intention, ect. Telling you to basically be a conscious being who doesnt worry about the illusions of pain and be grateful to be alive
Sober isn't about christianity it's about someone who can only be creative when they are under the influence. H is about maynards son and what Maynard felt when he was born, 46 &2 is about evolving to the next step in human evolution and prison sex is about a person who was sexually interfered with and now that they are older they are doing the same thing to someone else that happened to them. So none of these songs have anything to do with christianity.
@@reubenbrooks3674 Tool liked to mess with people and create random meanings to troll people with that werent the real ones early on in their career as theyd never been fans of releasing real meanings to their songs in general. At one point they said they were all about the science of crying which isnt true either. But you are right about those other songs not Sober though. That was when they still messed with people about their songs. but Also the early 90s still wasnt a good time period to say your band was antichristian so its obvious theyd come up with something there anyway.
Point taken you both might be right but that's not what those songs are about to me.
I think some of Maynard’s anti Christian sentiment comes from his mother being a real believer and being crippled by an aneurism or stroke or something. I think A Perfect Circle covers some of this.
Kurt's criticism was usually always spot on, that's why he was the king of our literature.
Nice
Thank You! You should watch my video on Undertow!
@@saysthemanbehindthemask i already watched it, your channel is underrated, you will blow up soon, just continue what you are doing and trust me, you will get famous..
Thank you! I appreciate the support and I hope you are right!
@@saysthemanbehindthemask 👍
I wonder what Kurt would think of David Firths animations
Well, there's a reason Kurt & Dave are where they are.
Are you talking about Kurt cobain and Dave grohl ? Cause if you mean Kurt is dead cause Dave sacrificed him and all the dudes in tool except 1 are still cool then yeah I guess
@@deadbody6112 who in tool isn’t cool anymore?
@@huoae the person who played bass on the first cd
@@huoae Paul ? I believe that’s his name
Cool, Dracula narrates this!
most tool tracks are glued together with the bass, be it pauls or justins
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Haha! Lol tell me about it man!
Undertow isn't tool's debut album, opiate is although classified as an e.p.
Well… I think you answered it yourself… EP is an EP… LP is usually referred to as an album. Many bands release an EP before they release a full length album and it’s that full length album that’s considered a “debut album”. I think it’s self explanatory. Why do some people find it necessary to address these things that are not worth discussing?
An E.P. by true definition would rule opiate out as being one. Over 25 minutes in length and over 4-5 songs. Also no need to be an AssHat. You are not better than me or anyone else who have opinions that differ from yours. Take a chill pill and debate like a real human.
2:57 Maynard wearing sandals lol
Never payed attention to that lol
If you are coming from outside of UA-cam don't be shy to drop a like on the video! ;)
I can't be the only one who is convinced that Kurt was joking when he talked about the Sober Video. I mean the guy was known to be a bit of a Troll so ofcourse he would start saying stuff like that when in reality he probably referenced the Brother Quay because he admired how good it was in replicating the Brothers Quay ( intentionally or not ). Idk maybe its just my subcounscious that doesn't wanna believe that Kurt would dislike something as cool as the Sober video but I guess we will never know. I do still believe tho that he was saying it in a joking manner, especially with the little Comment at the end coming from him when he says "they should get a slap on the wrist for that" , I mean cmon that really doesn't seem like he mean't it in a serios way. But who knows maybe I am wrong. Oh and also, nice Video man.
Could be could be... Initially I took it as I saw it... I thought he meant it... Even though there are plenty of interviews where Kurt messed around but there were also videos where he behaved normally and took things seriously... I think this is one of those interviews. But I see that many people in the comment section don't see it that way including yourself... so I am kinda on the fence on this one. Regardless if he was joking or not he's right... resemblance to brother's Q work is uncanny... And I don't think there's something necessarily wrong with that... it was a well executed video and I don't think you can qualify this as plagiarism or something like that... I am rambling, sorry. Basically I am fine with his comment and I think criticism in art is healthy as long as it's not fuelled with negativity jealousy. Glad you liked the video ;)
It is strange that Kurt would say what he said. Also the drug thing has some validity to it. Made me think of Dear Mr. Fantasy by Traffic. Does anyone know what he means when he says Jesus won't you f***kin whistle?
Kurt Cobain had a point though....I love Tool, but they ABSOLUTELY did rip BQ off.
bratayley
Why is the part cut out where Kurt Cobain is talking about how much he liked Tool and loved the song and video. And when he is talking about the copying the video he is obviously just half joking, slap on the wrist, etc.
Well... I don't remember exactly what was the rest of the interview like since I made this over 2 years ago... but I think I cut it because it wasn't about "sober"... this video is about that song not about what Kurt thought about it. I can see that Kurt's comments created much dispute in the comment section but it's hardly the point of the video.
I can tell that Kurt Cobain knew that he was the King of Rock
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oh camon we all looked like this in the eighties... :)
Mr Cobain words? well, i dont trust his tastes on anything look who he married for heaven sake, being a eighties nineties "grunge"(ugh, never liked that word) fan I never liked Nirvana, only cause im a fan of GOOD singers, Maynard his voice is perfect for Tool their videos ALL are perfect for Tool, genius really!
Hey Kurt. Does "killing joke" ring a bell?
Hey Killing Joke, does the Damned Life Goes On ring a bell?
I don’t understand how Maynard went from his voice with CoAD, to TOOL!
rumor has it he was told he could just not face the crowd
He probably improved his voice from 1991-1993 Sylvia Massey probably have him singing advice.
Plus they sucked...and you can learn alot from sucking.
OK the likes and dislikes are at the ratio of 111.likes and 11.dislikes it's perfect nobody touch it .
Lol! NO! Give me more likes haha!
Ive always thought Tool was paying homage to Brothers Quay. Anyone who hasn’t seen these films should check them out. They’re silent for the most part so just throw on some Tool.
lmao what is not blatantly obvious?
first tine i have ever heard of Brothers Quay...
U mean they .completely ripped off brothers quay?? Lol paying homage... they completely stole it for profit
Even so idk why Kurt said that shit. Fucking come as you are was a fucking rip off too. Pot calling kettle black no pun intended
Come as you are and killing joke lol
As someone who listens to both Tool & Nirvana, I'd still say Tool as farted out more depth & talent than Nirvana had on their best days, Mr. Grohl excluded. He's on a whole other level than his old bandmates.
Grohl more talented then Kurt? Tool farted out better music then Nirvana?
Sounds like someone wasn't a teenager in the early to mid 90's.
Growl plays MOR, Dad rock and Tool are God's- bit were able to have such an impact because of Kurt kicking down the door for alt bands.
I love Tool - but Kurt was a lyrical genius and songwriter. Disagree with his thoughts on Tool - but know the history.
Besides, Maynard was a Pro-Kurt guy
MJK has much more appealing music than MJ. And Kurt Cobain was probably jealous of MJK at that time
Well... Hm technically Nirvana were active for longer at that time while Tool were basically “new kids on the block”. I like both bands but in different ways... not sure I would even be comparing the 2 bands as they are quite different
I do agree bro
Wait who’s MJ?
Tools music is way better, you can't beat those lyrics vocals and the sound of that guitar, I mean? all due respect to Nirvana? only because my brother that passed away in 2016 R.I.P. was a big fan of Nirvana Alice in Chains Soundgarden Audioslave, and I lingered more towards bands like tool" Nine Inch Nails godflesh and Fear Factory, I mean I don't care what anyone says I don't care if Nirvana's been around longer?, to me it's not always about that? All I know is what band music sounds better, and tools been playing ever since the late 80s so was Nirvana? In the same year 1987, So they Both pretty much been out playing music sense considerably? around the same time?, but I just have to admit? tools music just sounds way better, I mean way! way! better, just can't beat that guitar Rift from all the good songs I heard from Tool.
@@tg88montanaguy61 just curious, as I'm never around other Fear Factory fans:
How do you feel about Obsolete compared to their other albums?
I think schism and parabola were more in the brothers quay style than sober but I do definitely see the resemblance
Kurt was right tho....
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Yeah, Nirvana is completely original....blah blah blah...
Nirvanna is the most mainstream pop band ever fans who think they are something difrent are a fucking joke lol.
Lead belly, meat puppets, he covered these bands but he gave them due credit
@@noname-wu9xr
Yeah, he covered them and gave due credit, but emulated i.e. ripped off many more.
This type of animation was already out before the Quay Brothers, and that is why Tool never got sued.
Well yuh… stop animation is stop animation… they have been doing it since all films were made in black and white… so yuh, can’t argue with that logic… meat through tubes though… is most likely a direct influence which is not necessarily a bad thing
Why are people saying Kurt was talking bad about Tool? .. he said it was a good video .. I’m sure Kurt knows he himself took inspiration/ripped off other artists.. 🤷🏻♂️
I like Tool's music. Been to 3 concerts. Yes...only 3. I was disappointed that when I dropped my lipstick, I turned on my cell phone light and was then kicked out of the concert. What the heck?!? Anyway...I was escorted out of the concert by the bands convoy. Really? Kick me out and then place me right in front of their touring bus? ;)
Well I’ve never seen them live. So you are very lucky to have seen them 3 times. Sucks about getting kicked out though. But I imagine the security must be just following orders and probably had very strict policy against phones. At a show I doubt anyone can hear your explanation properly so they just escorted you out.
And then what happened?
Just saw them in Pittsburgh in March and there were NO CELL PHONE signs plastered everywhere... But then they actually let everyone record the last song "Invincible" with there phones. They said absolutely no phone lights though. Maynard was pretty adamant about that lol
@@1984TJN they talked shit about nirvana and had prison sex
Well whatever never mind. Kurt didn't even like nirvana
Kurt cobain had little space to talk nirvana was basically a pixies cover band
Fun Fact, 72826 On a dial pad, like your lock screen to type in your password, is the devil, so almost like you’re calling the devil.
this accent dude this accent
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The original version sounds like dead Kennedys
hahahaha do a video on the songs kurt ripped off .
HaHa lol that might be interesting... Come to think of I was thinking of doing a video on Smells Like Teen Spirit... and Nirvana were worried to release the song as they thought everyone would think that it would be compared to The Pixies... so yuh might be interesting! =)
@@saysthemanbehindthemask Killing Joke - Eighties -> Nirvana - Come As You Are. Speaking about rip off.
@@kool_thing Smells Like Teen Spirit -> Blue Oyster Cult - Godzilla
@@kool_thing But Eighties was a rip-off of a song by the Damned so meh
@@Baldwinthefourth Godzilla sounds nothing like Teen Spirit?!?!? The hell did you come up with that comparison?!?!
Opiate was their deput album, not undertow
Opiate is an EP! Not an LP. Big difference. Google it lol
I wonder if anyone from Killing Joke or Pixies has seen this video of Kurt actually talking about other people ripping off stuff. lol
No Pixies song sounded like Nirvana they just did the verse chorus verse style. Killing Joke Eighties is a rip of the Damned Life Goes On....
@@GrandChessboard U-Mass >>>>>>smeel like teen spirit
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Yuh, Kurt was a fan of their work and it did show in his own music
Kurt did call it a neat video
I much prefer the song Eulogy.
Me too. I love Tool but I've never liked sober . Eulogy is amazing though
Okay, I'm gonna throw out some half-, maybe quarter-baked bullshit here so...get your salt out...
Love this song. Scares the fuck outta me. As it's supposed to. But I just noticed something in the lyrics and the song structure (I'm not a musician and have almost zero knowledge and absolutely no talent or skill -- remember?: get yer salt)...
Somebody else can figure out if this has any validity if they feel so inclined...
Listening to various Jethro Tull tracks the other day, it struck me (again) how intelligent, eloquent, bitter and angry a lot of the lyrics are. I noticed that the music and lyrics often emphasized each other in sometimes counterintuitive ways, amplifying each other and the overall effect (momentarily or throughout the tune). For instance, the lyric and vocal might be light and pretty as a medieval ballad but enmeshed in a nasty, heavy guitar-drum crunch; vice versa, Ian Anderson might snarl menacingly over the airiest, most ethereal acoustic flute and tinkling piano.
But it is still pierces and scrapes and jangles your feeling. Some of this is heightened by the frequent odd turn of phrase or counterintuitive and jarring juxtaposition of words or peculiar specific vocal emphasis on a word in a lyric phrase.
I could probably find helpful specific examples, but, sorry, I'm a fairly lazy asshole and I'm not getting paid for this. 😔
But there is a ruthless precision and specificity to the lyrics, their phrasing and their emphasis, along with the way the music and lyrics interplay and reinforce each other's strength and effects, that reminds me all the world of some of Jethro Tull's work...including (but not limited to) Cross-eyed Mary, Skating Away, Thick As A Brick, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath...
Sober is not their debut album. It was their EP Opiate. 🤦♂️
Dude… Google it before typing something this stupid… Do you know the difference between an EP and a full length album which is usually referred to as an LP. 2 different things
All I have to say about Kurt is that he married Courtney Love! I respect him as a musician but he also has ripped some other artists work off (Boston,kingsmen’s and pixies too name a few).
Man as much as I've always liked Kurt, what a TooL he is for saying, even thinking that, he is such a hypocrite. Is he just jealous? Man, shame on you Kurt!! Like non of your music/videos came from someone else's art???? At least the ideas.
Kurt was realizing that Nirvana the king of music videos had just been dethroned.
LOL, no...
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Kurt ripped off the Come as You Are riff from Killing Joke haha. But Kurt was what 24 years old in this video? We all say dumb stuff at 24, well most of us do.
Killing Joke ripped off the Damned Life Goes On.
Cobain is right; but art borrows like that, sometimes borrows a bit too much, from other/prior art, all thru history.
True, yes. Art is often inspired by other art... Artists are in a way learning from each other by borrowing ideas one from one another.
Tool mayve ripped bros quay. But come as you are is almost killing jokes 80s so it balances out
That's hardly the only song nirvana ripped off.
fair, but how many bands/tunes from your homeland have become GLOBALLY KNOWN?
What’s your point? As far as I can tell this is not a critical video towards the band… and even if it was… still what’s your point?
Not sure why I just now stumbled upon this video. But I seen that Kurt clip before. & I do love Kurt. But isn’t he also quoted saying that no idea is original. We can’t possibly trace one idea back to one person. Every creation is a cluster of little rip offs. Pretty hypocritical.
Cobain ripped off Riffs and he was hoping they got sued for admiring and replicating a video style?
You had to put kurt kabang's b.s. in there. TOOL is waaaay more than Nirvana ever was and i went to highschool with Dave Grohl at Thomas Jefferson High School 6560 Braddick Rd Alexandria VA 22312
Kind of. That’s what people seem to focus on in the comments
What's your social security number, and date of birth?
@@erickraueldallasskywatcher8262 😆 fr fork it on up bud
kurt cobain, be cool...
Btw. Tool covers most of the time King Crimson. Tool's new Album is a rip off of the red album from K.C.
Is it. Never listened to them but heard of. But to be fair Tool have a recognisable sound of their own. Plenty of bands are inspired by their sound
one thing Cobain definitely knows all about is plagiarism
Yep, half of Nirvanas music is someone else's song.
Please elaborate.
Really? The controversial lyrics of the song weren't even touched on or mentioned, let alone explained.
"Jesus won't you fucking whistle, something from the p..." had nothing to do with Jesus whistling. It was referring to the friend you mentioned briefly who was "creatively talented when under the influence" he apparently would obsessively whistle a melody or tune he was creating (under the influence) or working on, over and over driving someone to say "Jesus won't you fucking whistle something from the past that's done"!
🤦♂️ well thank you for doing the heavy lifting lol! I did address the meaning of the song as you said and I believe it was clear enough to understand that it had nothing to do with religion… and to be fair the thought of the song being even remotely religious never crossed my mind and I think for obvious reasons… “Jesus” is often used to express frustration and that’s how I took it in this song. Never thought of this song being “controversial” in the slightest… nor is the meaning of the song that complex… so I guess over 2 years ago when I made this video I felt like there was not much to say about the lyrics or meaning apart from what I did say about it… I still feel the same way today
I am 100% with Kurt Cobain! So, where was TOOL at as he was being murdered?
Murdered? I don't know much about it because I was born in '99 but I'm pretty sure it was suicide(or as I heard).
@@hightimes7106 nah man... not that simple. It's quite unlikely that he actually committed suicide. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that proves that he was indeed murdered. Some of his lyrics and the fact that he was a drug addict made him an easy target in terms of making him a depressed suicidal rock star. Look it up.
@@saysthemanbehindthemask I’ve seen the so called “evidence”. The man committed suicide.
Nirvana's music didn't make sense and it was just terrible.
@@saysthemanbehindthemask
Nevermind his previous suicide attempt, as that isn't important.
@1:36 3 chords ??? It's only 2. Two cords in total, D and D sharp. That and little lead part banging against the oen 4th string. That's it.
I came to loathe this song. I was in a band that covered it and it is just mind numbing. The vocals may be interesting but the guitarist just phoned that one in.
What are you on about? At no point do I say about how many chords the song has
Okay I really really like the old first version way better way way better.
Kurt was high all the time there's not a whole lot we can believe him so much then again everybody was from '60s to the 90s a lot of them have gotten, "SOBER"
Maybe there was some inspiration maybe there wasn't.
There are certain parts of the old version that I like better too… but overall I think that the chorus of the original really started to pull me into Tool overall
@@saysthemanbehindthemask yeah and ya know what, I hade cakeWalk, fruity loops and acid to make music on my own HP pavilion computer.
What everyone had back then.
I wasn't allowed to make music due to it was fully hacked.
I did make my own stuff but sucked I couldn't be around those who knew how to use it. I also Own a Black troubadour harp.
It's in IL. If you want it for music, let me know I can rent it out.
Misleading title 😂
How come?
Who cares what Kurt Cobain thinks apparently he didn't think too highly of himself
Let Kurt rest in peace
A comment on UA-cam isn’t bothering Kurt cause he’s dead.
as nirvana rips off almost everything
Kurt was a walking fallacy. Don’t think his head was clear from his unfortunate heroin addiction. Nevertheless RIP Kurt. Heroin is the devil. If there’s one substance that should not exist is heroin. So many lives ruined.
There isn't one brilliant mocker of God drug absuer in heaven.
Pretty egotistical of you to speak for God.
That how they are.
Cobain is dead.
Maynard is killing it.
maynard is a cringelord
Yep he is so cringe at live, but their songs are good tho
Kurt the most overrated man in rock history bashes tool one of the most successful bands.
Not really tools new album sucked ass even after 13 years what a embarrassment unfortunately.. I prefer to Listen to Clutch. Such a awesome kickass band who owns their own label and doesn't care about radio play and awards shows, but playing live to earn their living. A true rock band with a amazing vocals and epic riffs.
@@questioneverything3332 can’t argue with that.