Derek MPMD: The Importance of Education on Steroids and Understanding the Risks

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  • Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
  • Welcome to the fifth episode of Shadow Talk, the podcast hosted by six-time Mr. Olympia winner and founder of nutrition and supplement specialists DY Nutrition, Dorian Yates.
    Shadow Talk is an insightful podcast series that aims to answer the question: How can you be a better version of yourself?
    Dorian welcomes guests from across the world, to not only talk about fitness and health, but how to mentally and spiritually improve oneself. Hosting guests from not only his competitive bodybuilding past, but also from his own journey to self improvement, Dorian asks the questions that will allow you, the audience, to take away valuable and practice lessons you can apply to your own journey.
    Dorian’s guest for this episode is the popular UA-camr Derek, founder of More Plates More Dates.
    A hugely successful name in the fitness community, Derek has gained over 1.9 million subscribers on his UA-cam channel and racked up over 600 million views. In addition to this, he has appeared on a number of podcasts over the years, so we’re delighted to welcome him onto Shadow Talk with Dorian Yates for this episode.
    More Plates More Dates Channel: ⁠ / @moreplatesmoredates
    As well as his massive social media influence, Derek has his website which boasts a range of resources for all things self-improvement related: ⁠moreplatesmoredates.com/⁠
    ​​To find out more about DY Nutrition visit ⁠dynutrition.co.uk⁠ (the UK) or ⁠dynutrition.com⁠ (Europe).
    Get 20% off your first order with code SHADOWTALK20, plus enjoy free shipping within Europe with code SHADOWFREE. Enter code at checkout to redeem your discount.
    Timestamps:
    0:00:00 - DY Nutrition’s commitment to providing high-quality products
    0:02:08 - How Dorian learnt about steroids
    0:06:30 - Health awareness of steroids
    0:08:00 - Derek’s purpose of channel MPMD
    0:08:50 - Importance of being informed
    0:09:20 - Dorian’s first experience with steroids and blood tests
    0:13:04 - Bringing awareness to people on steroids and risks
    0:13:40 - Dorian’s story with steroids and what his doctor told him
    0:17:18 - Advice to people starting out
    0:20:00 - Dorian’s experience after steroids
    0:26:00 - How would Dorian fare in bodybuilding as a whole today
    0:30:00 - Dorian’s interests now in helping people
    0:33:33 - Living in Spain
    0:36:14 - Gyms in Spain
    0:38:24 - What Dorian would do differently
    0:45:43 - How low did Dorian’s calories go for a contest
    0:48:20 - Competing without a coach
    0:49:06 - Dorian’s bicep injury
    0:51:30 - Females taking steroids and importance of education
    1:01:30 - How the bodybuilding industry has changed
    1:02:32 - Best thing to do between cycles and transitioning
    1:10:10 - Where to find further information on Derek’s page
    1:12:20 - Importance of having a baseline
    1:13:20 - Derek’s experience
    1:14:50 - Does having more muscle mass require more steroids
    1:18:13 - Importance of estrogen
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  • @DorianYatesNutrition
    @DorianYatesNutrition  24 дні тому +58

    Timestamps:
    0:00:00 - DY Nutrition’s commitment to providing high-quality products
    0:02:08 - How Dorian learnt about steroids
    0:06:30 - Health awareness of steroids
    0:08:00 - Derek’s purpose of channel MPMD
    0:08:50 - Importance of being informed
    0:09:20 - Dorian’s first experience with steroids and blood tests
    0:13:04 - Bringing awareness to people on steroids and risks
    0:13:40 - Dorian’s story with steroids and what his doctor told him
    0:17:18 - Advice to people starting out
    0:20:00 - Dorian’s experience after steroids
    0:26:00 - How would Dorian fare in bodybuilding as a whole today
    0:30:00 - Dorian’s interests now in helping people
    0:33:33 - Living in Spain
    0:36:14 - Gyms in Spain
    0:38:24 - What Dorian would do differently
    0:45:43 - How low did Dorian’s calories go for a contest
    0:48:20 - Competing without a coach
    0:49:06 - Dorian’s bicep injury
    0:51:30 - Females taking steroids and importance of education
    1:01:30 - How the bodybuilding industry has changed
    1:02:32 - Best thing to do between cycles and transitioning
    1:10:10 - Where to find further information on Derek’s page
    1:12:20 - Importance of having a baseline
    1:13:20 - Derek’s experience
    1:14:50 - Does having more muscle mass require more steroids
    1:18:13 - Importance of estrogen

  • @WarriorSidMentzer
    @WarriorSidMentzer 23 дні тому +56

    The fact that Dorian is asking Derek questions shows he doesn't have a bullshit ego and that is pretty cool.

  • @epistemologicaldespair68
    @epistemologicaldespair68 23 дні тому +101

    Can’t count the times I’ve heard Derek say “The guy is shredded out of his GD tree, looking like Dorian Fkn Yates” lol. Great crossover

  • @crushyyog3762
    @crushyyog3762 22 дні тому +43

    4 or 5 years ago Derek was still somewhat small time.. Now he's interviewing Dorian Yates. He has come so far. I love it

  • @UntitledtotheGrave
    @UntitledtotheGrave 23 дні тому +159

    The duo we didn't think we needed

    • @alkku0075
      @alkku0075 23 дні тому +13

      But we did

    • @jimaldo7715
      @jimaldo7715 21 день тому +5

      @@UntitledtotheGrave it was certainly a pleasant surprise to see this video pup up

  • @sagnikbalo9544
    @sagnikbalo9544 23 дні тому +187

    We want a podcast with Leroy Davis please, I think it would be legendary.

    • @sukesingh2099
      @sukesingh2099 23 дні тому +3

      That would be great!!!

    • @hannanpervez1771
      @hannanpervez1771 23 дні тому +13

      They haven’t spoke in decades 😕

    • @CommandoG331
      @CommandoG331 23 дні тому +9

      They're not friends. Leroy stole a living off the back of Dorian. Still does.

    • @jomainasdf1433
      @jomainasdf1433 23 дні тому +1

      @@CommandoG331 what do you mean? what happened?

    • @CommandoG331
      @CommandoG331 23 дні тому +4

      @@jomainasdf1433 all I know is they weren't training partners long. Dorian had partners he trained with for years before Leroy come about. Then Leroy's milked a living off that blood and guts video ever since. All he was,nwas a mouthpiece

  • @coopertrost3816
    @coopertrost3816 23 дні тому +83

    derek interviewing dorian on dorians podcast haha. great stuff!

    • @the_notorious_bas
      @the_notorious_bas 20 днів тому +1

      That's called a conversation

    • @JordanLR
      @JordanLR 19 днів тому +2

      ⁠@@the_notorious_basit is a bit more like Dorian being interviewed though

    • @the_notorious_bas
      @the_notorious_bas 18 днів тому

      @@JordanLR In the beginning yes, but later it becomes more of a conversation.

  • @richspizzaparty
    @richspizzaparty 23 дні тому +67

    Dorian’s podcasts are always the best. Can’t click fast enough!

    • @coocoo4cocablunty
      @coocoo4cocablunty 22 дні тому

      Not really. He talks over a lot of his guests and doesn't let them finish their sentences.

    • @cjskelton7603
      @cjskelton7603 22 дні тому

      Yates would not have got anywhere without Leroy Davies walking him through every exercise, every time! He particularly struggled with sequencing the dumbbell curl even during his Olympia reign!!

  • @PyronTheDevourer
    @PyronTheDevourer 24 дні тому +40

    Crazy lineup of guests so far. Can't wait for this one to drop.

  • @gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
    @gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife 23 дні тому +34

    “The competition is NOT on the stage. That’s the end result. The competition is every day DAY IN, DAY OUT that nobody actually sees”.
    This really resonates with me!! With my wildlife photography it’s similar. It’s the preparation, the miles of walking to the destination where the animals are. The knowing your gear and the concentration needed to create the finished photograph that people love. Thanks, Dorian, great podcast as always. Can’t wait to see Lee Haney on one day!!❤

  • @mattepton5731
    @mattepton5731 Годину тому

    Thank you for having Derek on Dorian ! I’ve been a fan of his for 7 years or so and about 27 years a fan of you. I’ll be turning 45 in a few weeks and Derek has taught me a bunch of valuable things from performance enhancement, life extension and quality of life improvements as well as other strategies or concepts to invest in or consider in general. I hope you have a great weekend and Derek too ! 🙏💯

  • @curiosity8494
    @curiosity8494 24 дні тому +25

    Lining up some great guests in this podcast. Nice one. DY winning in the podcast world too.

  • @willthomas7666
    @willthomas7666 23 дні тому +10

    When dorian speaks i listen.. it was cool having derek on as well

  • @jaycarneygiants
    @jaycarneygiants 22 дні тому +5

    I feel fortunate to live in a time where the information we need to stay as healthy as possible is available. Imagine back in Dorian's day when they didn't even know to take blood pressure meds.

  • @alkku0075
    @alkku0075 24 дні тому +21

    Cant wait. Going to be on of Your best podcast next to Tom platz one

  • @zeroinfinity8227
    @zeroinfinity8227 2 дні тому +1

    Hey Dorian. I love your content, character and discussions. Probably (99.99%) you will not read this, but please know that genuinely you have inspired me in the past 3 years via your podcasts & HIT programs. Thank you.

    • @DorianYatesNutrition
      @DorianYatesNutrition  2 дні тому

      Thank you for your support and kind words! I'm glad to hear that my content and HIT programs have inspired you over the past few years. Keep pushing forward and striving to be your best. Stay strong and keep training hard!

  • @cyrillyons1531
    @cyrillyons1531 22 години тому

    I absolutely love this collaboration. Thank you, Mr. Y for being an example of many things to integrate into everything. It's not just bodybuilding. You have said if you apply the same actions (with consistency) from bodybuilding to anything in life, success is more than possible! Absolutely brilliant, you even know Derek exists because many do not allow themselves to open their mind to younger sources!

  • @dylanfirth3813
    @dylanfirth3813 5 днів тому +1

    Dorian had a chuckle and you could see a flashback ,💪🏻 you are thee man! **

  • @MichealBrown-ju5rq
    @MichealBrown-ju5rq 22 дні тому +4

    came here from the MPMD short. Soon as I saw you two together I knew I needed to see the whole thing.

  • @latman1
    @latman1 22 дні тому +2

    Dorian was always such a breath out of fresh air. He doesn't need a hundred thousand likes to feel validated!!

  • @mattepton5731
    @mattepton5731 29 хвилин тому

    I never thought about the competition being outside of the show. That’s so true. I know it takes training and work, but to think of it all ( the preparation ) being the contest is on point.

  • @RecTown-re6ur
    @RecTown-re6ur 24 дні тому +6

    Always a pleasure and a delightful surprise to get a new Dorian podcast episode dropping. Looking forward to the one with Peter Attia as well.

  • @ayda2876
    @ayda2876 14 годин тому

    Thank you for making this ♥️
    So glad to see you still around and well

  • @NaturalIntensity69
    @NaturalIntensity69 23 дні тому +4

    Stoked to see dorian more on the internet nowdays, i remember 3-4 years ago loving the scarce content and podcasts of his you could find. Would love to pick his brain one day for adapting H.I.T styles.

  • @alexanderkernoghan4385
    @alexanderkernoghan4385 3 дні тому

    Everyone who is great at what they do has one thing in common. Surprisingly, it is not talent or determination, these are common but not universal.
    Universally, they have a simple and actionable way of thinking about what they do. This lets them focus on what is important so their effort yeilds results.
    Dorian is the most concise thinker on body building and his explanations always display deep understand distilled to their essence. He is a great for a reason.

  • @seleb1539
    @seleb1539 23 дні тому +5

    Happy to see Derek with The Shadow. Legend 💪

  • @sturdygirl75
    @sturdygirl75 21 день тому +2

    Thank you Dorian, for this episode. Valuable information for us women who love listening to your content. I'm definitely one of your 3% 😊 ❤

  • @zarathustra007
    @zarathustra007 23 дні тому +6

    the podcast we all need and deserve

  • @Dylan-cj7ku
    @Dylan-cj7ku 23 дні тому +4

    Awesome, easily one of my favourite podcasts.
    Excited to see who you bring on next!

  • @djokernolecristi3279
    @djokernolecristi3279 22 дні тому +2

    Love Dorian. Super smart guy, so relaxing to hear him share his experiences

  • @jaycutlery
    @jaycutlery 24 дні тому +4

    Looking forward to it.

  • @spacecowboy3914
    @spacecowboy3914 23 дні тому +12

    I've never seen Derek so nervous !

  • @christopherhughes-hh2yp
    @christopherhughes-hh2yp 21 день тому +3

    Good to see Derek is back sat in his mum and dad's sauna

  • @willashwood7803
    @willashwood7803 22 дні тому

    Great episode! You are a legend Mr Yates, can't wait for the next one!!

  • @edzeplin77
    @edzeplin77 24 дні тому +4

    Genuinely excited for this

  • @erikverstrepen3373
    @erikverstrepen3373 17 днів тому

    One to save ! Encyclopaedic and very educational !
    Eye opener for sure.
    See you on the next one Dorian !

  • @cambruno5066
    @cambruno5066 22 дні тому

    Crazy multiverse crossover.
    Have been a fan of Dorian since I started bodybuilding and Derek since 2020.
    We needed this! Thank you from returning from the shadows Derek!

  • @jessebrown1400
    @jessebrown1400 23 дні тому +1

    There's something about Dorian's storytelling that is so good, what a great interview!
    I loved that part about the anti-estrogens. I had a similar experience using a 19-nor only base and paid a bit of a price.
    Bodybuilding has come a long ways but I still love the 90's era, he's right when he describes 90's desire in the gym.
    BIG was in, but I can appreciate Dorian's different identity.
    In our eyes he's still in essence BODYBUILDING.

  • @JR-ru3wt
    @JR-ru3wt 24 дні тому +3

    YES!

  • @robriste
    @robriste 12 днів тому

    the statement about 'Competition' was Gold, thanks

  • @Dragonlagan1
    @Dragonlagan1 13 днів тому

    Great back and forth. Derek is always so good at general conversation as a guest and host

  • @pashagymlife977
    @pashagymlife977 23 дні тому +2

    Brilliant this was a epic collaboration. I've go so much respect for dorian I love listening to him speak, in such a fake World his a one of the real ones.

  • @user-cg2xu7tj8i
    @user-cg2xu7tj8i 10 днів тому

    Can’t wait for the next podcast !!!!!

  • @Roadmap.to.Resilience
    @Roadmap.to.Resilience 22 дні тому +2

    So stoked on the collab!! 🙏💪

  • @doriangates9918
    @doriangates9918 21 день тому

    I would love to see more of these two. Dorian and Derek are my favorite of all time in the fitness industry.

  • @laddy2522
    @laddy2522 23 дні тому +2

    made my day seeing this collaboration

  • @antonio1681
    @antonio1681 24 дні тому +5

    this is gonna be great stuff

  • @anthonyhewitt9397
    @anthonyhewitt9397 21 день тому

    I could listen to this all day. Amazing content.

  • @alcito101
    @alcito101 16 днів тому

    The respect that Dorian shows for my Canadian compatriot Derek is contagiously humbling. It is familiar: I am a college professor, and I learn from my students.

  • @leigh_carmichael
    @leigh_carmichael 23 дні тому

    Never thought I'd see this colab. Great stuff!!

  • @damienwinpenny1267
    @damienwinpenny1267 21 день тому

    Two amazing minds - DY is a hero!

  • @cdog2145
    @cdog2145 23 дні тому +1

    Quality dorian always pushing your perspectives.

  • @darrinuhl8103
    @darrinuhl8103 16 днів тому

    I loved hearing Dorian discuss his experiences. Let’s get these two guys together again soon.

  • @Hlth-cn4fh
    @Hlth-cn4fh 10 днів тому

    Great show. Thanks Dorian.

  • @user-uk3jk6dk8v
    @user-uk3jk6dk8v 22 дні тому +1

    Great podcast, thanks Dorian you’re the man! You should have vigorous Steve has well, Steve and Derek are the most knowledgeable guys on UA-cam right now

  • @MrJ027
    @MrJ027 23 дні тому +1

    Looking forward to this

  • @Owen-C1997
    @Owen-C1997 22 дні тому

    I was surprised to see this collaboration, but man did i click faster than ive ever clicked on a video before in my life 😂. Great video. Kind of reminds me of the years old video of Dorian telling his stories on the joe rogan experience.

  • @simplymana
    @simplymana 18 днів тому

    Wow I can’t believe these two are sitting in the same room together. I haven’t even watched this yet but I’m so KEEEEENNNNN if I could like this a million times I would. Tysm😊

  • @shmoo1000
    @shmoo1000 23 дні тому +3

    It's be awesome to see you speak with Leroy Davis and the past training you guys achieved

  • @laurencewilliams536
    @laurencewilliams536 22 дні тому

    Another fantastic podcast keep them coming 💪🏻👍🏻🙏🏻

  • @MarkWarren-sw8bq
    @MarkWarren-sw8bq 23 дні тому +1

    You and Derek are the only two guys I listen to.

  • @heartoflion888
    @heartoflion888 23 дні тому +3

    We got a derek and dorian podcast lets fkn go

  • @Purplereign3121
    @Purplereign3121 13 днів тому

    A podcast with Dorian is a gift. Always.

  • @JM-bg2ts
    @JM-bg2ts 3 дні тому

    Dorian making up words in his add read "adoptatation" i like that 👌

  • @patricksorger1595
    @patricksorger1595 22 дні тому +1

    The mental health issue for gear is super important and very much overlooked for sure.

  • @darrennaidoo6252
    @darrennaidoo6252 23 дні тому +2

    Wow two legends🎉

  • @Lucas_Jeffrey
    @Lucas_Jeffrey 23 дні тому

    This was amazing. Very profound conversation

  • @warrenrobert9066
    @warrenrobert9066 23 дні тому

    jacked about this! Great work Derek!

  • @AJ_2204
    @AJ_2204 23 дні тому +1

    How's this the first I've heard of the pod could quite literally listen to Dorian for hours

    • @leonidas3127
      @leonidas3127 22 дні тому

      Derek providing a platform for Dorian is very generous from the Derek’s side

    • @AJ_2204
      @AJ_2204 22 дні тому

      @@leonidas3127 honestly surprised his channel hasn’t been recommended to me before, I’ve watched the rogan and True Geordie podcast with him a couple times each before guess it just takes a Derek collab😂

  • @Alx7051
    @Alx7051 23 дні тому +2

    Fantastic podcast

  • @only1tofear164
    @only1tofear164 23 дні тому

    Two great minds

  • @snehamshis
    @snehamshis 14 днів тому

    Please Dorian we want one with your favourite peer KEVIN LEVRONE....Please 😭 😭😭
    I've always been a die hard fan of the SHADOW since childhood but lately i've learnt about Kevin's journey and all that he has been through... It would be very inspiring and already goosebumped imagining it happen and you both talkin bout your walk of life... Great motivation for all young bloods
    Before i die i wanna see you guys talking over this beautiful craft you guys share... ❤
    PLEASE DORIAN...much love ❤️‍🔥

  • @user-wu2lh7di2l
    @user-wu2lh7di2l 21 день тому

    Never thought I’d see this!

  • @Hittdogg17
    @Hittdogg17 23 дні тому

    2 of my favorite people

  • @User107D
    @User107D 23 дні тому +2

    Good conversation - cheers!
    I must admit that I had different experience with steroids, used Nolvadex but very speringly and couple of shots of HCG after the cycles were enought to restart my natural testosterone production whiteout an issues (never used more than 1000mg test per week tho).
    This shows how different every individual is regarding the usage of drugs and I think that trial & error is king but it is good to have general knowledge about the subject before you start experimenting on yourself 😅

  • @Nonameagain69
    @Nonameagain69 24 дні тому

    F yeah, best collab ever.

  • @fergalfoley8571
    @fergalfoley8571 23 дні тому

    A great listen 🙌

  • @gsp81
    @gsp81 20 днів тому

    Not a fan of bodybuilding or body builders. But Dorian is a first class G. Complete honesty. Rare dude

  • @antonhallergren588
    @antonhallergren588 24 дні тому

    Gonna be a banger!!!

  • @adamcooper8463
    @adamcooper8463 22 дні тому +1

    Another great conversation podcast.
    I would love to see Leroy one where they talk about their days together. Perhaps get Dorian’s other old training partner, Paul also.
    Another podcast with perhaps jay cutler or John little.

  • @christianchapman9420
    @christianchapman9420 23 дні тому

    Great podcast as expected 👏 could have easily watched the 3 hour version 😀

  • @matinbali
    @matinbali 23 дні тому +2

    Your honesty is awesome Dorian. Arnold would never even think of saying what he did. I guess to be fair he was in politics and they are full of lies. Can I ask for a healthy 54 year old is small amounts of test and so on a big issue health wise ?

  • @andreyvolkov3117
    @andreyvolkov3117 23 дні тому

    Nice 👍. Going to listen tomorrow

  • @user-uh9px7yh9p
    @user-uh9px7yh9p 22 дні тому +1

    Dorian the legend.

  • @BatmanBoss
    @BatmanBoss 23 дні тому

    Great show!

  • @eddiebaby22
    @eddiebaby22 24 дні тому

    This will be good. Nice one DY

  • @MichaelB1979
    @MichaelB1979 6 днів тому

    I cant imagine how Derek felt talking to Dorian. Its a dream

  • @bfmv4evr88
    @bfmv4evr88 День тому

    Dorian has the best gainer on the market. I took 2 1/2 scoops with 1 liter of milk everyday for a year and with hard training the results were clearly visible and felt, actually I decreased my body fat percentage and I gained 7-9 kg of musclemass. The results were almost anabolic.

  • @SlsAmg-cz7nq
    @SlsAmg-cz7nq 23 дні тому

    What a outstanding combo

  • @tonyramada3829
    @tonyramada3829 22 дні тому

    💪💪💪 Great interview.💪💪💪

  • @kyawswarhantun7767
    @kyawswarhantun7767 25 днів тому +12

    this is a crazy work

  • @JasonB_13
    @JasonB_13 23 дні тому

    It's awesome to see Dorian's brand really start to crossover onto the mainstream's radar. One of the most dominant bodybuilders of all time should be a household name like Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Derek Jeter. He certainly is held in that regard in this house. As my sons are finally reaching training age I assure you they're super familiar with The Shadow and have a great deal of reverence and appreciation for the database that he's shared.

  • @gustavoalceudesouzacruz7354
    @gustavoalceudesouzacruz7354 21 день тому

    uau, that was great. ansewred all my qustions about dorian..

  • @iamcorneliu1097
    @iamcorneliu1097 23 дні тому

    Amazing

  • @eldictator1
    @eldictator1 23 дні тому +2

    Dorian smoothly moving away from the dosage question ha

  • @ignoranceisstrengthpodcast3294
    @ignoranceisstrengthpodcast3294 18 днів тому

    2 of my very favorite people 🤩

  • @RomanVasylenko888
    @RomanVasylenko888 23 дні тому

    great and informative

  • @kellyhope8248
    @kellyhope8248 21 день тому

    Awesome conversation Derek and Dorien.

  • @seandunn333
    @seandunn333 2 дні тому

    Bloody great chat this❤

  • @FLOYD-MAYWEATHER-TBE
    @FLOYD-MAYWEATHER-TBE 23 дні тому +6

    The Kings Of Chemical Warfare

    • @willthomas7666
      @willthomas7666 23 дні тому

      Obv roids are part of the sport when ur talking pro level bbing..
      I don't think alot of ppl realize.. the main component is genetics, u could lit take someone with decent genetics and put them on the same cycles/ food, training etc, and they would look nothing close, to someone who has elite bbing genetics... these guys are freaks of nature..

    • @willthomas7666
      @willthomas7666 23 дні тому

      Samething with ur genetics, on how well u respond to roids... ppl could take the same cycles these guys do, and there body won't put on anywhere near the muscle, as someone like say dorian

    • @kallelund4487
      @kallelund4487 21 день тому

      @@willthomas7666 It's not about that. its half what u say, How well someone respond to steroids is how well can u handle the sides. the more peds u take and can TAKE the sides with no problems the more u can take and dont go off. This is for real a chemical warfare,

    • @RichRobinson
      @RichRobinson 17 днів тому

      @@willthomas7666cool story