Had a fair few people asking me to talk about these floaty bois, so here it is! Hope y'all enjoy! Next couple vids in the lead up to E3 2019 will be absolute BANGERS, look out for em, but for now - ENJOY SOME GOOD OL' HALO LORE!
Me when I first saw them back in Halo 3 ODST: "I just hold him for 2 minutes... if anything happens to him I will kill the hole universe and then my self" (later sees the brutes abuse to them...) "well there is nothing better but a mass genocide of brutes right bros : D"
@idk a name Maybe help humans find out how to use the Forerunner structures and weapons against the Created. Possibly even help humanity commandeer a few Gaurdians to fight with.
At that point I would smack the first one I saw with his severed arm with a brute weapon nailed to it. All while his blood brother is in a position where he seeing it all happen. If his blood brother lived I would have made sure I install the chip simulating Cupid's Arrow on him so not only does he know and is fully aware that I did that to his blood brother, but he has no choice, but to serve me or suffer endless agony.
@@youthfulexile549 well let's put it this way, I'm that way for the right reasons. There are way too many damn Heroes around four people that look up to that if you let the bad guy get away or whatever the case may be that keeps them alive and just plan on doing it again. If anything else if you think that's bad I could do far worse. Like take Middle-Earth Shadow of War for example I was attacking another orc which is nothing out of the ordinary and then his blood brother decides to come and try and save him. So I shame that orc right in front of the one that tried to save him and made him deranged or crazy in other words, then I dominate his blood brother have him kill the one I made deranged and of course he turns against me, which was part of the plan which gave a perfect opportunity to shame and make him deranged as well and then I had my crazy executioner finish him in a duel and one-sided one no less just to see him fall.
In a way, it makes sense that the responses are different between the two. The Forerunners likely found completely different things from us to be cute and the like.
@@Techhunter_Talon Or they didn't find other things cute at all, which was why the Precursors ultimately decided to try and hand over the mantle of responsibility to humanity, which the Forerunners didn't like either, starting the Forerunner - Precursor war...
@@voynich7825 perhaps the Pre-Couser's saw them shunning the engineers and humanity not and said : Hippity Hoppity , the mantle of responsibility is humanity's property .
Now I might get a little bit of hate for this, but from Destiny in Dredgen Yor style, I would have carved out the battery from Spark and left the carcass in the sands of the Ark for no one to find and made it slow and intensely painful with the wails of the Monitor's screams as I am doing so for what he did to Sarge.
I’m also kinda late to this but in the Spartan Field Manuel it advises Spartans not to get close to Engineers on the Infinity with their suits on. The reason why is because the engineers try to improve the suits and it’s described as “uncomfortable”.
One detail I remember from the Halo novels was when the Masterchief witnessed an Engineer disassemble a car, laying out the pieces nice and orderly, and I always thought it was adorable at the idea of in their dedication to Forerunner tech the Huragok were genuinely curious of the technology of other species, even if it belonged to the UNSC
@@michaelandreipalon359 I.....I wanna say it was Fall of Reach but I could be wrong, it was from early on in the war when Masterchief and his squad had the early version of Mjolnir armor that didn't have shields
Just saying, Engineers can operate Guardians and can even deactivate them, rendering them useless. So yeah, there's an idea for a video. Or a halo Infinite theory.
If I remember my Halo lore...maybe...A forerunner remarked on how neutral the Engineers are. As in they don't have the capacity to understand anything beyond their job. There are acceptions, yes, but even the covenant had trouble with them just going off and doing their own thing. I believe one book remarked how most ship members would go their entire lives not seeing one of the engineers assigned to their ship. Still the best species in Halo lore by far.
I feel so bad now for killing them :( Fun fact! Their naming conventions come from the manner in which they float For example "lighter than some" "tends to drift" or as Virgil was once known "quick to adjust"
My brain: hey, watch UA-cam Me: why... My brain: just do it now Me: *opens up UA-cam* *sees that HiddenXperia released a video 26 minutes ago* Me: nice
I'm so glad my boy Virgil is still alive! I hope he returns in Infinite or that we see Cheif or a Spartan team have one as a companion. With their over shield creating abilities, it might be a neat idea. I honestly hope that the UNSC finds more and gives them a proper home on Earth or New Reach should it come out of ONI's grip so more can come into being and aid humanity. I think that if the UNSC does this, the Engineers will align themselves with Humanity over the Forerunners. And given that Virgil has undying loyalty to Sadie, it's quite possible that it can be done. We'll just have to see.
I love my squiddy boys. My favourite part is how they're named after how well they float when they're "Born". Slight List, Lighter Than Some, Quick To Adjust. They're very good
"Ghosts of Onyx" was one of my fav books. Such an awesome story, and we get to see the cool-af spartan 3s and their SPI armor. Oh and there are cute engineers, and scary sentinels, and a scary sentinel planet.... Ya great book.
Engineers won't eat you when they get hungry. Instead, they'll light you cigar, fix your ancient tech and give you a super charged shield. Also, *THEIR ADORABLE FACES ON THEY'RE ODD FLOATY BODIES JUST MAKES THEM SO CUTE!!!*
Honestly, I think that the Forerunners could count as one of the strangest creatures in the Halo universe. They literally modify their bodies to suit their different roles in society, they rarely take their armor off, they don't need to sleep, and they can live effectively indefinitely for tens of thousands of years. That's pretty strange if you ask me.
One of my fav Halo moments is when the engineer lit Sgt. Johnson’s cigar. So awesome, cute, and convincing that it was probably forced into the covenant.
that moment with johnson and the floty boi makes me smile every time. im not even lying, my favorite character, with the most wholesome story arch boi ever is pure feels.
Lol, UA-cam is weird when a video is just released, it has to keep up with an influx of views while checking them to make sure they're all real views, hence the view-like disparity haha. Gone are the days of 301+ views!
In The Fall of Reach, John even sees one dismantle a car to base parts and rebuild it in minutes and just float on by like it forgot its morning coffee.
I noticed something while playing ODST yesterday but it you kill all the enemies and right before the engineer self destructs you can see it begin to panic in fear with its tentacles. Kinda sad knowing you can't do anything for them.
the engineers are quite notable and unique as their role makes them stand out, the one thing that stand out to me the most is that by technicality is that they are the first none humans to be intergrated into the UNSC military assuming hte sargent johnson cutscene is none cannon but regardless they were intergrated so well that they went straight to work, people glare at them but those glares quickly disappear
The way the covanent treats treats the engineers vs how they warships forerunner technology vs their importance to the order is disgusting especially considering how cute they are
Funneling money into an Engineer "breeding" program would have actually been really smart. It would make a lot of logistical sense, since they can multiply by themselves, and would save massive costs in manufacturing and repairs, not to mention the use of Forerunner tech. I agree with you mate, they should have funneled the Spartan 4 money into making more Engineers. Not only making a lot of sense in-universe, but also would have spared fans from the fake Spartans.
Had a fair few people asking me to talk about these floaty bois, so here it is! Hope y'all enjoy! Next couple vids in the lead up to E3 2019 will be absolute BANGERS, look out for em, but for now - ENJOY SOME GOOD OL' HALO LORE!
I'm really exited for your halo infinite prediction video and live stream
ua-cam.com/video/lj2EfqjXrNU/v-deo.html
Can we get a video on the correct interpretation of reach, or how they collide. Cause its flipping confusing when you read the book and play the game
HiddenXperia
Could you do a video on your ideal Halo Military? Navy, Army, Air-Space Force, Spec. Ops. (Spartans), & Intelligence.
Floaty boi gang
*Don't know about you but I find engineers quite adorable*
tbh I feel like it's an objective fact at this point that they're the cutest lil aliens in the Halo universe
I still feel bad about the fact that I basically committed engineer genocide in Halo 3: ODST
I just hope this doesn't lead to human x huragok or sangheili x huragok
you know
Ya, right before they explode right on you on H3 ODST
Anthony Carmine I'm sorry little one
Engineers are a squishy, floating lovable species created by The Forerunners.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache
Don’t hurt the smol bois. Handle with care.
@@AccessDenied20078 *Takes away 999*
You lost your stache again
French Soldier
Good. Keep em. Better to annoy you then me
@@AccessDenied20078 Nyet, Comrades need more happiness
"But Virgil! Who will find you?"
"Office of Naval Intelligence, your tax dollars hard at work."
I still prefer the name pinky instead of Virgil
zerg rush I prefer Virgil instead of pinky
@@than.imeiii I Virgil Over Pinky Prefer
@@ryancrazyrhino8976 Over I Vergil Pinky prefer
@@thomasnolastname8734 pinky prefer i virgil over
“Floaty bois”
Handle with care plz. They are fragile and inccont.
Me when I first saw them back in Halo 3 ODST: "I just hold him for 2 minutes... if anything happens to him I will kill the hole universe and then my self" (later sees the brutes abuse to them...) "well there is nothing better but a mass genocide of brutes right bros : D"
Javi Legoff
Right indeed.
SCP-682 [hard to destroy reptile] Did you mean innocent?
Don't worry, I know what the aliens like.
@@CrimsonPisces113 I will shred this universe to its last atom
I’ve always loved the Engineers, I hope they come back in Halo Infinite.
same
Otherwise as a pc player you will see them soon in mcc 😍
Cute animals
@idk a name Maybe help humans find out how to use the Forerunner structures and weapons against the Created.
Possibly even help humanity commandeer a few Gaurdians to fight with.
If they come up as enemies i will not play
Brutes: *puts bombs on engineers*
Me: "wait that's heresy"
At that point I would smack the first one I saw with his severed arm with a brute weapon nailed to it.
All while his blood brother is in a position where he seeing it all happen.
If his blood brother lived I would have made sure I install the chip simulating Cupid's Arrow on him so not only does he know and is fully aware that I did that to his blood brother, but he has no choice, but to serve me or suffer endless agony.
@@m3tr0id86 thats dark
I like it
@@m3tr0id86 edgy kid.
@@youthfulexile549 well let's put it this way, I'm that way for the right reasons.
There are way too many damn Heroes around four people that look up to that if you let the bad guy get away or whatever the case may be that keeps them alive and just plan on doing it again.
If anything else if you think that's bad I could do far worse.
Like take Middle-Earth Shadow of War for example I was attacking another orc which is nothing out of the ordinary and then his blood brother decides to come and try and save him.
So I shame that orc right in front of the one that tried to save him and made him deranged or crazy in other words, then I dominate his blood brother have him kill the one I made deranged and of course he turns against me, which was part of the plan which gave a perfect opportunity to shame and make him deranged as well and then I had my crazy executioner finish him in a duel and one-sided one no less just to see him fall.
@@m3tr0id86 do we also live in a society?
Forerunner people: eww gross get it away from me
Humans: aww how adorable
Also humans: I'll take your entire stock
In a way, it makes sense that the responses are different between the two. The Forerunners likely found completely different things from us to be cute and the like.
@@Techhunter_Talon Or they didn't find other things cute at all, which was why the Precursors ultimately decided to try and hand over the mantle of responsibility to humanity, which the Forerunners didn't like either, starting the Forerunner - Precursor war...
@@voynich7825 perhaps the Pre-Couser's saw them shunning the engineers and humanity not and said : Hippity Hoppity , the mantle of responsibility is humanity's property .
Like those weird drones that heal knights
...I have an intense urge to hug them...
And patt their slimy little heads
@Chong Marin It's fucking worth it
Who would win?
The Covenant with twisted religion and destroyer of worlds
VS
A floaty boi.
Floaty bois ftw!
It's so obvious!!! It's the floaty boi that would win.
The floaty boi, a spartan and the elites
A floaty boi
Need 2. 1 dies on it's own.
The Huragok just lighting Johnson's cig for him. . .
JOHNSON I MISS YOU COME BAAAAAAACK
Sent me out with a bang - sgt. Johnson
Cigar
Now I might get a little bit of hate for this, but from Destiny in Dredgen Yor style, I would have carved out the battery from Spark and left the carcass in the sands of the Ark for no one to find and made it slow and intensely painful with the wails of the Monitor's screams as I am doing so for what he did to Sarge.
@@m3tr0id86 lol
@@m3tr0id86 damn that's almost as edgy as the thorn
The strangest specie is
-amazing-
*I C O N I C*
LIK YO MAMA JK LIKE YO SQUISHY ENGINEERS
Ok honestly I see this as a thing:
Spartan 4 loses his shield
Floatyboi comes up and fixes it
Spartan pets him then finishes the mission
Late but it kinda happens like this in the novelization
I’m also kinda late to this but in the Spartan Field Manuel it advises Spartans not to get close to Engineers on the Infinity with their suits on. The reason why is because the engineers try to improve the suits and it’s described as “uncomfortable”.
I am The Senate lol
I am The Senate ngl is try it but not inside the armor just to see what they would do
An engineer would be the best -pet- friend ever! Not only is he adorable but he could fix/optimise your PC in seconds!
A Soviet Tank and there are instances of them building translation devices so they can communicate with people.
And your car
The engineer would voluntarily self destruct after seeing your PC browsing history
Finally a friend for me!
They are pretty cute.
One detail I remember from the Halo novels was when the Masterchief witnessed an Engineer disassemble a car, laying out the pieces nice and orderly, and I always thought it was adorable at the idea of in their dedication to Forerunner tech the Huragok were genuinely curious of the technology of other species, even if it belonged to the UNSC
Hmm, what novel is this again?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I.....I wanna say it was Fall of Reach but I could be wrong, it was from early on in the war when Masterchief and his squad had the early version of Mjolnir armor that didn't have shields
Hmm, I'll check.
Brutes: *strap bombs to engineers*
Me: Wait, that's illegal
7m
Alright send the elite zealots
Just saying, Engineers can operate Guardians and can even deactivate them, rendering them useless.
So yeah, there's an idea for a video. Or a halo Infinite theory.
VRGL vs Cortana.
Forerunner Creation Vs Human Creation.
All I can imagine now is just a floaty boi going full Titanfall with a Guardian
@Some guy on UA-cam Cortana: *Mega fucking oof*
stand by for titanfall
Engineers vs ai. Who would win.
Poor engineers,
now I’m gonna be more brutal while fighting brutes.
I used the brute (strength) to destroy the brutes
Brutes are not all equally cruel. Tartacus uncle seemed to be a good guy. Even Atriox to a certain degree.
I kill engineers brutally
use plasma granade those brute bastard in halo 3 with master chief that was for every engineers, you kill son of bitchs
every alien in halo: virgins
Engineers: chads
yes
Fun fact: humans are also aliens
but I still kill them anyway
No the elites are chads to
Engineer's lifespan...
Approximately 1 plasma grenade...
(Sorry... I had to...)
Hidden and Byf crossover when?
WAIT, could an engineer just have got a hold of cortana and fix her? Great vid! Yeeyee
SIERRA 117 WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
CORTANA WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
There's no cure for being a bitch. 😂
mikhail king ONI wants to know YOUR location.
Somebody call Chief
What did you say
ABOUT MY *MEDICAL DROIDS*
10/10 medical droids, idk what he’s talking about
Pfft weak. Weeeeeaaaaaak. It’s real gonk droid hours
Who needs medical droids when you have bacta
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do i need to an Engineer to fix this?
BEYH
Yes
imagine a floaty boy general, his battle tatics would be unmatched
Wow, all 3 of my favourite Halo UA-camrs upload on the same day (you, Halo Canon and LateNightGaming).
U should also add halo follower
@@barrelsinger9828 lol no
Duck lol I only watch hidden but why does everyone hate halofollower I see everyone always roasting him in hiddens comment section
adazura halo follower clickbaits and drags videos longer than they needed to be.
Dicord glitched and I literally got over 1000 notifications of this video. That was quite ***I C O N I C***
Best glitch ever
My absolute most favorite species in Halo. I love their design and character.
They just wanna fix lol.
If I remember my Halo lore...maybe...A forerunner remarked on how neutral the Engineers are. As in they don't have the capacity to understand anything beyond their job. There are acceptions, yes, but even the covenant had trouble with them just going off and doing their own thing. I believe one book remarked how most ship members would go their entire lives not seeing one of the engineers assigned to their ship. Still the best species in Halo lore by far.
Yes the engineers or as I like to call them “floating space Squidwards”.
I still prefer the name pinky instead of Virgil
I feel so bad now for killing them :(
Fun fact! Their naming conventions come from the manner in which they float
For example "lighter than some" "tends to drift" or as Virgil was once known "quick to adjust"
Penny and Trans also Prone to Drift, Sometimes Sinks...
Poor Lighter than Some. It’s a shame he went out the way he did
@@Itsyaboibaby how did he go out?
Damn buggers ripped him apart in a swarm, tearing him up piece by piece. It was a very painful death
Those Drones sure paid for their jealousy later on by a religious Grunt friend of his though.
My brain: hey, watch UA-cam
Me: why...
My brain: just do it now
Me: *opens up UA-cam*
*sees that HiddenXperia released a video 26 minutes ago*
Me: nice
I'm so glad my boy Virgil is still alive! I hope he returns in Infinite or that we see Cheif or a Spartan team have one as a companion. With their over shield creating abilities, it might be a neat idea. I honestly hope that the UNSC finds more and gives them a proper home on Earth or New Reach should it come out of ONI's grip so more can come into being and aid humanity. I think that if the UNSC does this, the Engineers will align themselves with Humanity over the Forerunners. And given that Virgil has undying loyalty to Sadie, it's quite possible that it can be done. We'll just have to see.
I love my squiddy boys. My favourite part is how they're named after how well they float when they're "Born".
Slight List, Lighter Than Some, Quick To Adjust. They're very good
Shoutouts to another pair of good bois, Prone To Drift and Requires Adjustment
"Ghosts of Onyx" was one of my fav books. Such an awesome story, and we get to see the cool-af spartan 3s and their SPI armor. Oh and there are cute engineers, and scary sentinels, and a scary sentinel planet.... Ya great book.
I'm reading it right now
@@johnsheppard5257 that's awesome! Such a great read. I hope you enjoy it.
Who would win our heart's
The *wannabe spartan kids* or some floating boi's
Floaty bois always win
I'm still debating between myself what the cutest alien boi in the Halo universe is
Grunt or Engineer.
I just keep going back and fourth at this point
Look at a grunt without their masks, I think the answer is fairly obvious.
Engineers won't eat you when they get hungry.
Instead, they'll light you cigar, fix your ancient tech and give you a super charged shield.
Also, *THEIR ADORABLE FACES ON THEY'RE ODD FLOATY BODIES JUST MAKES THEM SO CUTE!!!*
@Jack Drucker *F L O A T Y B O I S*
Halo CE grunts right? Same, I can't tell either!
Halo contact harvest is perfect to see why engineers are better.
The ultimate weapon: Hura-glock
ListenerFromTheLights SuddenlyOranges much?
If we had engineers, this would turn into a chess game real quick being 10 steps ahead of our enemies.
I miss my man Virgil I'm glad I'm not the only one who grew attached to him 😭
Who else remembers Sergeant Johnson getting a Light from an engineer
Mhm it's a classic
@Roland Deschain its in the video
Random covenant-"the rings will send us on the great journey to salvation!"
Engineers-"random cackling"
AHH That engineer lighting Johnson's cigar was so adorable!
Who would win, a super advanced race and a monster devouring spore, or one cute floaty boii
I want a video about drones! (please😇)
1:38 the fx-7 medical droid, ah good times.
Urah, glad someone else knows it.
I just realized that Voldemort looks like a Forerunner .
Imagine a grave mind that could do magic
Honestly, I think that the Forerunners could count as one of the strangest creatures in the Halo universe.
They literally modify their bodies to suit their different roles in society, they rarely take their armor off, they don't need to sleep, and they can live effectively indefinitely for tens of thousands of years. That's pretty strange if you ask me.
How cute they are, it's like having a tentacool hardware running in a cat - dog software
Brutes, Drones, Skirmishers, Floaty bois... Bring em all back for infinite
As I said last episode, keep up the great work man, I love your videos
Brutes: *strap bombs to floaty bois*
*ANGERY CHIEF INTENSIFIES*
Engineer *lives for millions of years*
Brutes “ I’m about to end this mans whole career “
I hope we get to see a army of engineers using sentinel beams one day
Engineers are floating squishy balls
But they're cute tho
And they're cute face is so adorable
One of my fav Halo moments is when the engineer lit Sgt. Johnson’s cigar. So awesome, cute, and convincing that it was probably forced into the covenant.
(Sees title)
"Ah, yes. Finally a video on the Yonhet!"
iTz Lazerz I wish
Hey hidden Xperia love your channel!
What would win?
Millions of years of natural degradation,
Or:
A few thousand floaty bois
that moment with johnson and the floty boi makes me smile every time. im not even lying, my favorite character, with the most wholesome story arch boi ever is pure feels.
Fun fact, the first human killed by the Covenant was killed by an Engineer in Contact Harvest.
When you're so early you can scroll all the way down through the comments.
Ah Yes, the oddly cute floating tentical monster. My favorite!
My favorite fact about the Huragok is in thirty minutes they can equip a pelican with an FTL drive from scrap parts just lying around
Hence forth they shall always be known as "floaty bois".
I use the engineers to make my scarabs *almost invincible by healing it as it takes damage in halo wars
Jesus fucking christ. Do you know the meaning of overkill?
It's the only acceptable form of kill.
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.....makes a hundred percent sense
well we are all just a bunch of nobodys
Brickmaster 517 yea hat happens don’t get it lol
Lol, UA-cam is weird when a video is just released, it has to keep up with an influx of views while checking them to make sure they're all real views, hence the view-like disparity haha. Gone are the days of 301+ views!
Lol
Quick, somebody get a Huragok!!!
We need an army of precious floaty bois firing light rifles n o w
The halo 3 special edition comes with a book of each enemy type and it stated that the engineers had gone extinct after halo 2
"Return of the Sith"
*U wot.*
HiddenXperia best Halo Lore Channel By far!
In The Fall of Reach, John even sees one dismantle a car to base parts and rebuild it in minutes and just float on by like it forgot its morning coffee.
I noticed something while playing ODST yesterday but it you kill all the enemies and right before the engineer self destructs you can see it begin to panic in fear with its tentacles. Kinda sad knowing you can't do anything for them.
I believe the engineers are described in one of the books as "autistic" in its ways of fixing things. Which I find adorable.
My 8 year old cousin would call them Squidward lol
Thanks Virgil! You're the best
Apparently an engineer sent a guardian plummeting to the ground be deactivating it
I love your videos I watch them all the time, sometimes over and over
They are my absolute favorite, I had a phase where I had Virgil as my avatar here. I love them, adorable huragok~
the engineers are quite notable and unique as their role makes them stand out, the one thing that stand out to me the most is that by technicality is that they are the first none humans to be intergrated into the UNSC military assuming hte sargent johnson cutscene is none cannon but regardless they were intergrated so well that they went straight to work, people glare at them but those glares quickly disappear
Love how the one engineer lighted Sgt Johnson's cigar...
I’d love a vid about the forunner armour and weaponry and how they created it
Man....homies really be keeping a tentacle monster down😔
How the brutes treated the engineers really shows how bad they were
Whenever I play halo reach I don't kill them because they don't hurt me. Idk, I think they have more of a tragic story than the grunts. Lol
RIP my boy Lighter-Than-Some
I imagine the engineers would smel something akin to rotten meat.
James Samblin I think they smell like blueberry
Wrong. They smell like new PlayStation
They’re absolutely positively adorable.
I freaking love the engineers!!!
2 important questions still remain:
Do they have feelings?
and
Can I hug one?
Yes and yes
More importantly
Where can we find 1000?
UNSC Infinity has 2000
Ahhh, the age old I C O N I C notification squad
I can just imagine like 500 'Floaty bois' with a bunch of forrunner guns just BLASTING away
*THESE ARE MY FAVORITE YESSSSSSS*
I always called them squishy lovable cute floaty bois
The Forerunners and Ancient Humanity (Halo) vs The Interim Coalition of Governance (Xeelee Sequence).
how to make homemade engineer
step 1 grab balloons
step 2 grab snake
step 3 tie balloons to snake and pant it blue
“Cute floaty boys” 🥺
Any infinite news I’m stressing because I haven’t heard anything in awhile
Very unlikely we'll get anything till the weekend after next (aside from possible leaks), but after that we're gucci
HiddenXperia dang it ☹️ 😥
HiddenXperia do u think e3 2019 will talk about infinite
4:01, assismilated?
The way the covanent treats treats the engineers vs how they warships forerunner technology vs their importance to the order is disgusting especially considering how cute they are
Funneling money into an Engineer "breeding" program would have actually been really smart. It would make a lot of logistical sense, since they can multiply by themselves, and would save massive costs in manufacturing and repairs, not to mention the use of Forerunner tech. I agree with you mate, they should have funneled the Spartan 4 money into making more Engineers. Not only making a lot of sense in-universe, but also would have spared fans from the fake Spartans.