'yes'. the only, utmost repeating kind of power level maxed over there within that single, Small halo universe's and galaxy's/franchise's known territorially-bounded cosmology-Only, hrm....
They played unto abstract alchemy concepts like regression and unification which does a curious parallel towards the human devolution and forerunner fall
Literally what we do when playing games with high replayability, it's like giving yourself a challenge and finding new ways to entertain yourself, because life means nothing without pleasure.
And remember the Forerunners used "vacuum energy" that was basically tunnel to another dimension, "abort" it and suck all the energy and matter it had, considering how the "living universe" philosophy (wich we know its the absolute truth) works, thats basically massive genocide on universal scale multiple times. The Precursors were right to become mad.
Imagine genociding a race of love craftian gods which created everything only for them to come back as a pissed off zombified old testament god driven by revenge and solving the issue of free will
I think this is the best summary on the Precursors I've seen, especially with the observations from a real-world mythology point of view. REALLY good! I liked this a lot.
This is something I always liked when people bring up a group of pagan gods in fantasy or scifi stories. The idea that they aren't the highest power but just the highest level of power that the mortals can notice and understand without just breaking from trying to understand it.
It's not Halo lore it's whatever abomination and greatly misinformed and sheltered understanding of what Halo is. Dude probably got into the series because he was a part of the trend where being a nerd and a cuck became mainstream which is why he's trying to think that Halo is based off of New age ideas Man it's a real riot.
For me the wildest part is that Precursor seems to be far above in Forerunners in everything whether it be knowledge, technologies or even something basic like biology. To the point the forerunners are actually baffled how they ever have the upper hand in the first place. At least in my opinion judging by how unperturbed Precursors are toward their supposed death it feels like they are actually giving Forerunners chance to prove them wrong, that maybe the mantle does belong to Forerunners, but after several attempts they have seen enough and decided to punish Forerunners for the final time.
Seeing that as we know death was not a concern for them since they could reincarnate probably the old Forerunners did not know about the futily of killing them most surely all the Precursor consciusness just stayed lingering in reality seeing how the Forerunners developed after stealing the mantle and becoming part of the Flood after the saw how bad the Forerunners turned. Similar to the W'rkncacnter from marathon (wich have a ton of similarities) they can not die actually maybe only put temporarily into something like a sleep
Ive been playing/reading Halo since 10 and I'm 33 now and catching up on a lot of it and it's deep and has a wonderful story to it this is some good sci Fi tbh
@@timmyturner4041 I'm genuinely surprised it doesn't have more extended universe media beyond books and graphic novels. A halo animated series would be dope.
@@revolverocelot1380 your very right and they have vast amount of material to use I would have never guessed it would have gotten this deep from the Halo CE
26:44 The way I interpreted the figure of the Domain having 100 Billion years of knowledge is that it has records dating to at least 100 Billion years ago. This would be believable considering all of the other canon feats and implied powers of the Precursors, them having a data repository from before the Universe began could simply mean that they originated from a different or previous universe, and hopped into/discovered this one much later.
@@carlosandleonexactly thats why 100 billion years of accumilated knowledge doesn't make sense. There were many precursors. ALL of their accimulated knowledge would be more way more than mere 100 billion
Halo lore is pretty neat, especially with a project im working on. I wouldn't mind hearing some Mass Effect lore from you if it peaks your interests enough. I know that lore goes pretty deep like Halo lore
Great video! What’s wild is in Outcasts, it’s implied that the Precursors truly exist outside of space and time itself. This seems to indicate that the Precursors are the creators of existence.
It's awesome that you are doing more halo vids, an idea for the future is the arsenal of the UNSC, UNSC ships such as the frigates and maybe some covenant related videos, such as the history if the arbiter, covenant ships and weapons.
'Even with all this power,-'. (meanwhile, on another bungieverses-connected setting's.-). 'Even with all this power, the mos-'. oh yes. True. '-thing about the Precursors is the fact that someone or something created them.'. Gameplay-wise: Realistically, Not like that (and, er....hopefully so! now? yes? that halo '06' era introduction of that 'is even worse than the flood!~' Whatever, new, Out-of-context made race for example is more than enough for those like me. so, no.) is ever going to happen it seems coming from those 343I developers there. and I think many would agree too (especially by those fans who were the ones who got damaged the most during at the start of halo 06's release finally. Lore-wise/storytelling-speaking), that after reading your considerable suggested reminder in here for example (none to the offense). Lore-wise Realistically though?: .... .... Not impossible. (Simply put). no. (especially if we all start with bungie's franchises and settings first anyways (anyone who is biased outside of bungo's multiverses want to join in for here too? touhou, marvel and/or DC, SCP, self-reference whatever engine, manifold, even xeelee sequence, and warframe, etc etc suggested preferred origin guesses), and finding some suitable 'pre-living time/precursors era' level creator-type forces to beings/etc from within the main Destiny's, and marathon multiverse's, and oni universe's(??), etc).
the main omniverses': pre-T=0 original Final Shape victors.... - the marathon multiverse's: wrkncacnter(/etc other such Causal, etc forces/beings(?) like them). - those few more other bungieverses-connected settings', but probably not as vast as those 3 main ones of bungo's (Lore-wise). - the halo universe's (and galaxy's): precursors. *(**24:24**).*
reo there are those like in the FSB/(etc other places like FSB's level of hal Lore documentary. those like the old FSA for another example, though FSB is a little bit easier to go searching on when it comes to this kind of franchise's setting) section of this one universe's stuff, or something. or even those similarly same easy ones that are broadly found like this here on youtube's/Etc's, which is reddit.
16:30 compare that to the Harbinger, and the resemblance is astounding, suggesting the Harbinger may be the form of the avatars of the Precursors before several were molded together into the Primordial, since the Didact commented that the Primordial wasn't one creature, but multiple molded together. The Endless being Precursor avatars would also explain their survival from the Halos. They were in Neural Physical temporal stasis when the array was fired, resulting in them being dumped back into the flow of time after the energies of Halo passed, dissolving their neural-physical stasis chambers.
Hell yeah, MetaNerdz doing more Halo! Even as someone who has read everything, this is great. Very excited at the prospect of your video format/aproceh being done with more halo.
@@NoThisIsAxolotrick 'When I saw 'precursor' I thought it was a Subnautica video.'. I for example usually now stick to the subnautica universe's and galaxy's(ies'?) own version of their (currently so far known for those of the alterra era Humankind) 'top ancients' type beings, etc's other naming, the 'architects' (a Bit of small, off-topic memorable chuckling from me Aside). just to make it easier for me these Days and not just calling this one much more extragalactically active-spreading forerunner ecumene-like subnautica version as being 'precursors' or something (I think the architect race also has like another name for them? back in the subnautica games. I don't remember too well from my own currently. any here seeing this? correct me if I'm wrong if there really are not any more other names, and that AL-AN's race was just only referred to as 'precursors'/'architects' only) similarly halo unuverse-esc anymore.
And they were created by the Predecessors, before them the Antecedents, before them the Ancient Ones, before them the Antediluvians, before them the Progenitors, before them the First Ones...
Not bad of a summary. There are a few errors though. It was the Ur-didact not the Iso-didact that destroyed the Primordial. Also, the Librarian discovered that the Forerunners killed off the Precursors during her visit with the ancient Forerunners she met at path kathona.
Maybe the endless are the first creations of the precursors and have their technology like star roads and other precursors stuff like weapons ships and armors and vehicles and have precursors like neutral physics sure their have the abilities to manipulate and control countless energies and matters including living time but I sure they also can manipulate and control neutral physics
@@luciferthechosenone122 if that true then we are screw but wait we defeated one of them that being the harbinger can we just do the same to the rest of them
@@MichaelThomas-q3m It's the difference between gameplay and lore. In lore, no matter how much master chief you are, it is impossible to beat the Servant of the Endless. In the video game this is ignored because otherwise it would be impossible.
i misheard 15 meters in height as 15 years in height. i was like wow thats pretty tall! then i heard meters and figured out it would be pretty tall but im just pretty dumb.
a very Small bit of (text) correction there: this is not the Human-esc kardashev direction of the order of from-'small's-to-'great's numbers by the way.
'-ods of our Galaxy? Precursor Speci-'. (judging by that choice of some of this video's titled words alone, for now) hrm. it is not just those things being in that one Halo universe's (main narrative-focused) galaxy alone though. [EDIT]: '-but to call them species is a bit narrow. They-'. Hrm. yes.... understatement,* etc. (*at least, for the halo universe's and galaxy's/franchise's own level and right for these precursors' anyways). -it is like trying to Hammer 'just like-
I like how in the early edition of the Halo Encyclopedia, it is stated that the Covenant doesn't have superior technology to Humanity by anything really of their doing, but by their imitative usage and reverse-engineering of Forerunner technology. It seems to me that Forerunners mostly just appropriated and imitated Precursor technology- when they could even begin to wrap their minds around it, that is.
Only in a very few cases. Forerunner tech is largely described as their own, if my memory serves. They had little, if any, real understanding of the precursor works like the star roads, they didn't realize the domain was a precursor construct until the very end (a point the grave mind noted as being part of their revenge) and the halos harnessed neural physics almost by accident
And Precursors fascinated by this violemce didn't fight back. Some turned into flood some rejected that. I hope we WILL get a full precursor one day in the books.
I think a majority precursors wanted to feel the "sweetness" of being genocided by the Forerunners, proving their point that the Forerunners weren't fit to hold the Mantle of Responsibility. Some precursors simply escaped to other galaxies to create more life; and as stated by this video, other precursors tranformed themselves into the molecular dust to become the Flood - to act as retribution for the Forerunner's hubris and betrayal.
Their is a si fi book about humans interstellar traviling and terraforming plants to create habitable plants and excellarating evolution for a few species but in this mission they encounter a organism similr to in habits to the flood and gravemind real good good book called "The children of ruin".. i belive there is a organism out there with similar fets
The more I learn about precursor lore the more I’m convinced the flood never were corrupted precursors. They are just precursors exactly as they intend to be
🤔 . . . Year-for-year, merge _Halo_ with _Star Trek_ . I primarily want to see the side by side differences & such… And when I type year-for-year, I mean _Halo_ & _Star Trek_ at 3000 AD, 4000AD, & so on… Ultimately, it has to do with technological progression & such…
Yes, more deep Halo lore please! I was always attracted to Halo because of it's takes on religion and eerie spirituality (big Arbiter fan), but the depth of inspiration the writers took still astounds me. I've heard of the Akhashic Records before, but never would've noticed it inspired the Domain until today.
Love the cosmic horror aspects on scifi games. WH40k tyranids, brethren moon of dead space, the flood halo and so on. They all share the same theme as to like the apex predator of the universe that gives me an impression that no matter how advanced a species can get nature will spawn a natural predator to it to keep things in check.
I'm not saying the Halo books aren't great, honestly I have no idea I've not even read the synopsis of a single novella from the line, but I find it quite silly that seemingly so many books are tagged with "New York Times best-seller!" But, but how? How is there even 2 marked as such? They can't both be the best, that's a paradox. Whatever.. back to the lore and less with the thinky parts.
'-and less with the thinky parts.'.* 01. Heh. that is Ironic-coming from the byfs' and the mye's-Indeed, yeah. 02. *and 'nitpicking' in other words you mean, yes?
Really poor naming, though: Forerunners, Precursors, Endless... The races had names for themselves. Use them once more is uncovered about them in the lore.
I feel like the Precursors seemingly being behind everything is too simple, and too supernatural. The precursors bringing all these supernatural elements into the setting really mess with the more pedestrian sci-fi vibe that Halo started with.
Precursors may be “Super natural” however many ideas and theories do hold up in our Limited scientific, for example: in 1504 while Christopher Columbus was stranded in Jamaica, he used his foreknowledge of a lunar eclipse to fool the natives, at the time Columbus proved that the natives god is lesser than theirs, and that One of many times were, a “lesser” civilizations was dominated, and displays a more advance civilizations, superior knowledge of their understanding of the world around them.
You don't just get into space without asking yourself much bigger questions. And when those questions have answers, you obviously look small in comparison. It all scales up. What makes it meaningful for me is that these small struggles still contribute to the broader whole. That Gods would watch us must mean that our actions and choices do have an impact on the world around us, so the core themes of "hope" against all odds, "Duty and Service", "Self-Sacrifice", "Survival at all costs", and "What it means to be human" are all themes with a deep meaning that our gameplay contributes to. I like it.
@@KillerOrca You see the thing nobody brings up about that "indistinguishable" quote is that is states that there is a difference but we're too stupid to figure it out
@@14megasxlr Either that or the gods are bored. think about it I watch a fly for a week and if he were human levels of sentient he would think he's special. Now he could be or maybe I just have a week to kill and wonder how flys work.Why? Because unlike the fly I can and will. His 7 days are a fleeting memory despite his lifetime I like that interpretaion too
The short of it is that they didn't. The Precursors are eternal constants, beyond the confines of space and time, beyond the Forerunners' ability to even attack. But the Precursors used avatars to interact with the mortal races they created, and those are what the Forerunners attacked, and the Forerunners' "success" was merely a consequence of the Precursors not having their avatars defend themselves, allowing them to be exterminated, except for the remnants turned into dust (eventual re-emergence as the Flood) or put into Neural Physical Temporal Stasis Chambers (eventual re-emergence as the Harbinger and the Endless).
Can someone direct me to a source that says the precursors were going to wipe out the forerunner??? I always understood the forerunners attacked the precursors because they wanted to keep the mantle. But if they did it to prevent their own annihilation then maybe the genocide of the precursors was well deserved.
Humanity found dust in jars, which seemed inert, and when they experimented on/with it, they found that when fed to their pets, it made them more docile and friendly. So finding no negative effects, they started using it on their pets across their empire. It wasn't until much later when their pets suddenly started sprouting tentacles, releasing spores that caused humans who came into contact with the spores to do the same. It wasn't long after then that the Flood first emerged, transforming those infected into undead Lovecraftian horrors.
Great video! We don’t know if other Precursors hide in our physical realm elsewhere than just on Netherop. The connection to harbinger and Endless is especially suspicious.
In the Kardashev scale, Precursors would be a type 4, capable of using the energy of an entire universe and to manipulate the fundamental structure of space time
I haven’t watched five minutes of ancient aliens but I often have been asked after sharing my theories on life and the universe, if I have and if that’s where I got it from. I’m convinced that show is a psyop to shut simple minds down when they start connecting dots.
Fun fact sea scorpions are an extinct species of literally crocodile sized sea scorpions from the Devonian Age. They were some of the first creatures that evolved the ability to walk on land.
in the Halo universe it is B.C.E., if they put zero at the French Revolution or the first contact with aliens, that is what I will use when explaining lore from that universe. Don't make this something it is not
b.c.e (before common/current era) is often, and increasingly, used instead of b.c. (before christ) for a few reasons, mostly religious neutrality as the person above mentioned!
Some of the best world building in gaming, up there with elderscrolls, mass effect, Pokemon, and fallout. They really understood scifi and had a deep passion for the world they were crafting. They put so much effort into making a compelling story to what was, by the 3rd installment quickly becoming a multiplayer shooter in the zeitgeist that most kids never even touched the campaign. Then...suddenly...they just stopped caring. A lot of modern game dev teams in the west we see hating on games like elden ring and BG3 for what they tout as "an obscene amount of unnecessary detail that players will never experience". Its often even more deep than they know such as every single NPC in elden ring given a face, eyes, and facial details that not only match their descriptions in the lore but their eyes often give away a profound truth about them you wouldnt find out until the near end of your playthrough, the only issue? Almost all of them have armor that covers these faces, no one will ever see them unless they opened the textures up with a special program and remove their clothes. They could have easily just used a blank standard head for all of them or none at all! No one would have known...accept thats not true is it? They would have known. They care about the consistency of the world they made. Things like not realizing all the ruins throughout the game are actually of one of the last levels and all the random designs and mosiacs not only have profound meanings and lore implications but literally match up such that the devs actually created the city(farumszula) then broke it up and places the ruins that way. Insane level of world consistency and attention to detail. You may not notice that detail, or the faces or the fact everyones eyes tell you who they serve and why or any one thing but these hyper passion filled decisions act as flags to us players. A dev team willing to go to such lengths and have such pride in their world is not going to give you a crap game. The people that made fallout 1 and 2 and even wrote a lore bible made such a good and believable world because they built a world they played in. Thus it was a world they personally cared about and it shows. Western game companys have begun hiring non gamers to make their games or worse gamers who dont make the game they are working on to be fun to them personally. They have no passion or connection to this escapism and thus they fall into vapid traps like uing the franchise as a method to platform their cringe personal political beliefs. A game developer who would take a once non modern political game franchise and immediately begin stuffing it with trump or obama hate refrences and dialogue is a game dev who isnt making a game, they are exploiting the franchise and converting someone elses passion into pure vanity. I believe this is why these companys like bioware, bethesda, and 343 now suck at world building. They no longer even view their job as a world builder, but rather at best, a gambling and behavioral addiction salesman whos job it is to link all these addiction systems together into a coherent story that a child will be able to easly wander into their digital exploitation traps. At worst these devs view them selves as propagandists, as specialized digital activists that have a duty to deconstruct your world to prop up their ego. So sad, this is why we need to protect Japan from this memetic marxist-decnstructionist mind plague. They are our only hope for eacapist media now.
We don't know if they actually intended to wipe out the Forerunners. It is left deliberately vague by the writers, and I think that is wise. Given the level of shame implied to exist on a cultural level in the Magellanic Cloud Forerunners, I think that was never the plan but was later used as a justification, a coverup. I mean they (the expeditionary force that chased the last of the Precursors down) deliberately burned their ships, and possibly themselves, leaving only a tiny group of survivors who had been marooned on a planet earlier for refusing to engage in xenocide. Sad fact is that the Forerunners were unfit to rule, and we see in the books that they were an extremely arrogant and violent species. So to be fair it might have been a wise choice for the Precursors to eliminate them.... but it just doesn't fit with even the limited lore we have on their society and philosophy
Definitely should get back to Halo ship breakdown please. Especially since there's a such a slow down in Star Wars lore these days. Halo ships such as: -UNSC fighters -UNSC ground attack aircraft -UNSC MACs -Covenant CCS battlecruiser -Covie corvettes & frigates
Imagine being sooooo advance as a species you devolve yourself out of boredom multiple times over. That's almost godhood there.
'yes'.
the only, utmost repeating kind of power level maxed over there within that single, Small halo universe's and galaxy's/franchise's known territorially-bounded cosmology-Only, hrm....
They played unto abstract alchemy concepts like regression and unification which does a curious parallel towards the human devolution and forerunner fall
That's TRUE boredom.
Literally what we do when playing games with high replayability, it's like giving yourself a challenge and finding new ways to entertain yourself, because life means nothing without pleasure.
When you've done so much in a game that you switch around your playstyle and looks completely every once in a while just for fun.
“Here’s the galaxy, don’t break it”
(Genocides humanity, destroys stars, kills millions)
_”DID WE FUCKING STUTTER?!”_
*quadrillions...halo ring go brrrrr
@@PromptHorizon12indeed
And remember the Forerunners used "vacuum energy" that was basically tunnel to another dimension, "abort" it and suck all the energy and matter it had, considering how the "living universe" philosophy (wich we know its the absolute truth) works, thats basically massive genocide on universal scale multiple times. The Precursors were right to become mad.
Imagine genociding a race of love craftian gods which created everything only for them to come back as a pissed off zombified old testament god driven by revenge and solving the issue of free will
The forerunners didn’t think things through didn’t they? 😅
I think this is the best summary on the Precursors I've seen, especially with the observations from a real-world mythology point of view. REALLY good! I liked this a lot.
This is something I always liked when people bring up a group of pagan gods in fantasy or scifi stories. The idea that they aren't the highest power but just the highest level of power that the mortals can notice and understand without just breaking from trying to understand it.
It’s at 117 likes!
Nice! Don't think I've seen such an in depth breakdown for the precursors. Great work!
Really? Then no offence to both of you - you haven't been looking well my good man.
Installion 00, and HiddenXperia have made great videos on them.
@themc.kennyshow6585 Came to say the same. I think even Kammy has one to, just short af cause its on tiktok, but dude is good !
Halo lore on MetaNerdz?! Yes! My favorite video game series being covered here is so great to see! Thank you for this!
Thank! I have a few vids in the playlist link in description
@@MetaNerdzLoreyou should try covering the UNSC Infinity
@@MetaNerdzLore hi dude how are you
It's not Halo lore it's whatever abomination and greatly misinformed and sheltered understanding of what Halo is. Dude probably got into the series because he was a part of the trend where being a nerd and a cuck became mainstream which is why he's trying to think that Halo is based off of New age ideas Man it's a real riot.
hi jdj
For me the wildest part is that Precursor seems to be far above in Forerunners in everything whether it be knowledge, technologies or even something basic like biology. To the point the forerunners are actually baffled how they ever have the upper hand in the first place. At least in my opinion judging by how unperturbed Precursors are toward their supposed death it feels like they are actually giving Forerunners chance to prove them wrong, that maybe the mantle does belong to Forerunners, but after several attempts they have seen enough and decided to punish Forerunners for the final time.
Seeing that as we know death was not a concern for them since they could reincarnate probably the old Forerunners did not know about the futily of killing them most surely all the Precursor consciusness just stayed lingering in reality seeing how the Forerunners developed after stealing the mantle and becoming part of the Flood after the saw how bad the Forerunners turned. Similar to the W'rkncacnter from marathon (wich have a ton of similarities) they can not die actually maybe only put temporarily into something like a sleep
Precursor is way more OP than Star Wars Celestial.
By far.
@@SechsVerehrer3-qd9fu Yes, Hrm.
to those more 'easy' mode kind of universes'/franchises' anyways....
Star wars is ridiculous, illogical and childishly shallow.
@@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617debbie downer
Oh yeah big time. But Vader solos master chief so 🤷🏻♂️
I had no idea halo lore went this deep. This is crazy.
yes. in its own anyways.
Halo may also be part of a Bungie "multiverse"
Ive been playing/reading Halo since 10 and I'm 33 now and catching up on a lot of it and it's deep and has a wonderful story to it this is some good sci Fi tbh
@@timmyturner4041 I'm genuinely surprised it doesn't have more extended universe media beyond books and graphic novels. A halo animated series would be dope.
@@revolverocelot1380 your very right and they have vast amount of material to use I would have never guessed it would have gotten this deep from the Halo CE
26:44 The way I interpreted the figure of the Domain having 100 Billion years of knowledge is that it has records dating to at least 100 Billion years ago. This would be believable considering all of the other canon feats and implied powers of the Precursors, them having a data repository from before the Universe began could simply mean that they originated from a different or previous universe, and hopped into/discovered this one much later.
Yeah that could work
Or maybe it implies a cyclical universe.
If 3 people read a book for an hour, you have 3 hours of knowledge.
@@carlosandleonexactly thats why 100 billion years of accumilated knowledge doesn't make sense. There were many precursors. ALL of their accimulated knowledge would be more way more than mere 100 billion
Yup the fucking marathon universe. Calling it because it makes too much sense.
I never got into the Halo games, but I love the Lore.
What do you also think about stuff like the art style, music, characters, vehicles, weapons, and other things?
IT IS AMAZINF 😊😊@@PackHunter117
Hey! That's my primordial art!
Love seeing any and all precursor talk, awesome video!
hey that is awesome! I am pretty sure I have it linked in the description if not let me know and I will
Halo is one of my favorite Sci-Fi’s
Edit and my first Halo game was Halo 3 great introduction to the series
Halo lore is pretty neat, especially with a project im working on. I wouldn't mind hearing some Mass Effect lore from you if it peaks your interests enough. I know that lore goes pretty deep like Halo lore
Yeah I have a ton of Mass Effect scripts written too so I'm hoping to keep consistent uploads on all these franchises
Great video! What’s wild is in Outcasts, it’s implied that the Precursors truly exist outside of space and time itself. This seems to indicate that the Precursors are the creators of existence.
It's awesome that you are doing more halo vids, an idea for the future is the arsenal of the UNSC, UNSC ships such as the frigates and maybe some covenant related videos, such as the history if the arbiter, covenant ships and weapons.
Even with all this power, the most freaky thing about the Precursors is the fact that something or someone created them.
I dont think that
'Even with all this power,-'.
(meanwhile, on another bungieverses-connected setting's.-).
'Even with all this power, the mos-'.
oh yes. True.
'-thing about the Precursors is the fact that someone or something created them.'.
Gameplay-wise: Realistically, Not like that (and, er....hopefully so! now? yes?
that halo '06' era introduction of that 'is even worse than the flood!~' Whatever, new, Out-of-context made race for example is more than enough for those like me. so, no.) is ever going to happen it seems coming from those 343I developers there.
and I think many would agree too (especially by those fans who were the ones who got damaged the most during at the start of halo 06's release finally. Lore-wise/storytelling-speaking), that after reading your considerable suggested reminder in here for example (none to the offense).
Lore-wise Realistically though?: ....
....
Not impossible. (Simply put). no.
(especially if we all start with bungie's franchises and settings first anyways (anyone who is biased outside of bungo's multiverses want to join in for here too? touhou, marvel and/or DC, SCP, self-reference whatever engine, manifold, even xeelee sequence, and warframe, etc etc suggested preferred origin guesses), and finding some suitable 'pre-living time/precursors era' level creator-type forces to beings/etc from within the main Destiny's, and marathon multiverse's, and oni universe's(??), etc).
@@CaptainPilipinasThe fuck did I just READ
that one aside.
back to the main topic in here.
@@CaptainPilipinasare you a monitor cause you sound like one
the main omniverses': pre-T=0 original Final Shape victors....
- the marathon multiverse's: wrkncacnter(/etc other such Causal, etc forces/beings(?) like them).
- those few more other bungieverses-connected settings', but probably not as vast as those 3 main ones of bungo's (Lore-wise).
- the halo universe's (and galaxy's): precursors.
*(**24:24**).*
Having seen many Halo lore dumps, I don't think I've ever understood what happened as well as was explained by this video.
I might get installation 00 The intellectual minded individual, however other Halo Channels, are pretty grounded.
reo there are those like in the FSB/(etc other places like FSB's level of hal Lore documentary. those like the old FSA for another example, though FSB is a little bit easier to go searching on when it comes to this kind of franchise's setting) section of this one universe's stuff, or something.
or even those similarly same easy ones that are broadly found like this here on youtube's/Etc's, which is reddit.
As a massive fan of Star Wars and halo, so glad to see this
16:30 compare that to the Harbinger, and the resemblance is astounding, suggesting the Harbinger may be the form of the avatars of the Precursors before several were molded together into the Primordial, since the Didact commented that the Primordial wasn't one creature, but multiple molded together.
The Endless being Precursor avatars would also explain their survival from the Halos. They were in Neural Physical temporal stasis when the array was fired, resulting in them being dumped back into the flow of time after the energies of Halo passed, dissolving their neural-physical stasis chambers.
Hell yeah, MetaNerdz doing more Halo! Even as someone who has read everything, this is great. Very excited at the prospect of your video format/aproceh being done with more halo.
The forerunner trilogy is my favorite halo series
I have been waiting for more Halo lore on this channel for so long... WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG!!!! thank you please make more
Awesome video, I have always been fascinated via the Precursors.
03:27 pretty sure thats a DMT machine elf
Gotta love how the Flood used the Precursor's Star Roads to create tentacle hentai snuff porn with planets during the Forerunner-Flood War.
When i saw "precursor" i thought it was a Subnautica video
lol alot of sci fi uses that term before subnautica there was the ones in jak and daxter
@justan324 yeah, i just like subnautica a ton, so its what i thought of first :)
@@NoThisIsAxolotrick 'When I saw 'precursor' I thought it was a Subnautica video.'.
I for example usually now stick to the subnautica universe's and galaxy's(ies'?) own version of their (currently so far known for those of the alterra era Humankind) 'top ancients' type beings, etc's other naming, the 'architects' (a Bit of small, off-topic memorable chuckling from me Aside).
just to make it easier for me these Days and not just calling this one much more extragalactically active-spreading forerunner ecumene-like subnautica version as being 'precursors' or something (I think the architect race also has like another name for them? back in the subnautica games. I don't remember too well from my own currently. any here seeing this? correct me if I'm wrong if there really are not any more other names, and that AL-AN's race was just only referred to as 'precursors'/'architects' only) similarly halo unuverse-esc anymore.
And they were created by the Predecessors, before them the Antecedents, before them the Ancient Ones, before them the Antediluvians, before them the Progenitors, before them the First Ones...
Not bad of a summary. There are a few errors though. It was the Ur-didact not the Iso-didact that destroyed the Primordial. Also, the Librarian discovered that the Forerunners killed off the Precursors during her visit with the ancient Forerunners she met at path kathona.
So advanced that you can incite fear in your enemy by making space, time, and all reality seem inhospitable and hostile. Time to call a truce, boys.
Whoa such a great video explaining everything, thank you 🙏🏽
I love when someone smart enough puts everything you thought you were thinking and trying to connect into articulate words 😅
Attempt #3: Hey MetaNerdz Lore, Please upload videos about The COMPLETE Life Story (Canon & Legends) of Luke Skywalker.
'Attempt #3:-'.
(Hm.
sounds Unfortunately familiar, yes...).
I love your channel it's so cool l feel like we are in a star wars universe
Thank you for all of the details you put into every video you post.
Thank you for the comment I'll keep em coming
I wonder if the Xalilin were related to precursors in some form.
Maybe the endless are the first creations of the precursors and have their technology like star roads and other precursors stuff like weapons ships and armors and vehicles and have precursors like neutral physics sure their have the abilities to manipulate and control countless energies and matters including living time but I sure they also can manipulate and control neutral physics
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@@MichaelThomas-q3m If the Precursors are Eldritch abominations, the Endless are gods of space and time
@@luciferthechosenone122 if that true then we are screw but wait we defeated one of them that being the harbinger can we just do the same to the rest of them
@@MichaelThomas-q3m It's the difference between gameplay and lore. In lore, no matter how much master chief you are, it is impossible to beat the Servant of the Endless. In the video game this is ignored because otherwise it would be impossible.
i misheard 15 meters in height as 15 years in height. i was like wow thats pretty tall! then i heard meters and figured out it would be pretty tall but im just pretty dumb.
Except not everyone got into the domain.
It's been a minute since you've done a halo lore video.
How did they wipe out a tier 6 civilization? Isnt tier 6 harnessing the energy of multiple universes?
a very Small bit of (text) correction there: this is not the Human-esc kardashev direction of the order of from-'small's-to-'great's numbers by the way.
Dang it's been awhile since your last halo video. Very good
'-ods of our Galaxy? Precursor Speci-'.
(judging by that choice of some of this video's titled words alone, for now) hrm. it is not just those things being in that one Halo universe's (main narrative-focused) galaxy alone though.
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'-but to call them species is a bit narrow. They-'.
Hrm. yes.... understatement,* etc.
(*at least, for the halo universe's and galaxy's/franchise's own level and right for these precursors' anyways).
-it is like trying to Hammer 'just like-
the next Species other halo forerunner made weapon halo rise and fall
Isnt the primordial the original gravemind?
The primordial imprinted its personality on the gravemind so any and all graveminds have the memories, knowledge and personality of the primordial
Only been 2 graveminds @@Pokefan3332
Gnural Phisics not Neural Physics
Like in PkMn it's Protien not Protein
Perhaps the Precursors were the friends we've made along the way.
I would like to see more Halo lore. Maybe cover the prototype suit.
I like how in the early edition of the Halo Encyclopedia, it is stated that the Covenant doesn't have superior technology to Humanity by anything really of their doing, but by their imitative usage and reverse-engineering of Forerunner technology. It seems to me that Forerunners mostly just appropriated and imitated Precursor technology- when they could even begin to wrap their minds around it, that is.
Only in a very few cases. Forerunner tech is largely described as their own, if my memory serves. They had little, if any, real understanding of the precursor works like the star roads, they didn't realize the domain was a precursor construct until the very end (a point the grave mind noted as being part of their revenge) and the halos harnessed neural physics almost by accident
I've been looking forward to this
Wasn't expecting Michael Heisner to be mentioned but was neat touch. Ufology, religion, and classic Halo lore all combining
@MetaNerdz Lore - You said there would be a link in the description about the math and there is none. Please upload the link for the math.
This was deep. I'm sleepy and may need to watch this again.
if the precursors were so OP, how did the Forerunners eradicated them? were they stupid?
The Forerunners caught the Precursors off guard.
And Precursors fascinated by this violemce didn't fight back. Some turned into flood some rejected that. I hope we WILL get a full precursor one day in the books.
I think a majority precursors wanted to feel the "sweetness" of being genocided by the Forerunners, proving their point that the Forerunners weren't fit to hold the Mantle of Responsibility. Some precursors simply escaped to other galaxies to create more life; and as stated by this video, other precursors tranformed themselves into the molecular dust to become the Flood - to act as retribution for the Forerunner's hubris and betrayal.
Didn’t she find forerunners in path cathona, not precursors? Or am I remembering that wrong?
Can I ask if you still plan to make a complete life of count Dooku? Thank you, absolutely love your channel.
Their is a si fi book about humans interstellar traviling and terraforming plants to create habitable plants and excellarating evolution for a few species but in this mission they encounter a organism similr to in habits to the flood and gravemind real good good book called "The children of ruin".. i belive there is a organism out there with similar fets
The forerunners defeating the precursors smells like bs.
I can't wait till he covers the material from the book point of light that one is something else lol
The more I learn about precursor lore the more I’m convinced the flood never were corrupted precursors. They are just precursors exactly as they intend to be
I always thought Foreunners and Precursors were the same
I wish 343 left most of this as a mystery.
🤔 . . . Year-for-year, merge _Halo_ with _Star Trek_ . I primarily want to see the side by side differences & such…
And when I type year-for-year, I mean _Halo_ & _Star Trek_ at 3000 AD, 4000AD, & so on…
Ultimately, it has to do with technological progression & such…
Shitload more war in Halo, lot less politics
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Oh theirs alot. Just in the background. All wars involve politics.
The latest date in halo is in the 2550s.
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2589 is the latest.
So glad your branching out wish you did trek too but I understand either way always up for more content
Halo has been done on this channel before, it's not a new thing
Yes, more deep Halo lore please! I was always attracted to Halo because of it's takes on religion and eerie spirituality (big Arbiter fan), but the depth of inspiration the writers took still astounds me. I've heard of the Akhashic Records before, but never would've noticed it inspired the Domain until today.
Love the cosmic horror aspects on scifi games. WH40k tyranids, brethren moon of dead space, the flood halo and so on. They all share the same theme as to like the apex predator of the universe that gives me an impression that no matter how advanced a species can get nature will spawn a natural predator to it to keep things in check.
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Very powerful race
Hrm. 'yes',
I just made a somewhat startling discovery…why the fuck does one of the precursors look like a Hive from Destiny?
I'm not saying the Halo books aren't great, honestly I have no idea I've not even read the synopsis of a single novella from the line, but I find it quite silly that seemingly so many books are tagged with "New York Times best-seller!" But, but how? How is there even 2 marked as such? They can't both be the best, that's a paradox. Whatever.. back to the lore and less with the thinky parts.
'-and less with the thinky parts.'.*
01. Heh. that is Ironic-coming from the byfs' and the mye's-Indeed, yeah.
02. *and 'nitpicking' in other words you mean, yes?
There are 2 Lensman anime movies.
that is amazing, I didn't know that
Really poor naming, though:
Forerunners, Precursors, Endless...
The races had names for themselves. Use them once more is uncovered about them in the lore.
Sometimes even as energy beings C'tan from 40k style.
I feel like the Precursors seemingly being behind everything is too simple, and too supernatural. The precursors bringing all these supernatural elements into the setting really mess with the more pedestrian sci-fi vibe that Halo started with.
Precursors may be “Super natural” however many ideas and theories do hold up in our Limited scientific, for example: in 1504 while Christopher Columbus was stranded in Jamaica, he used his foreknowledge of a lunar eclipse to fool the natives, at the time Columbus proved that the natives god is lesser than theirs, and that One of many times were, a “lesser” civilizations was dominated, and displays a more advance civilizations, superior knowledge of their understanding of the world around them.
Complex enough science to those who are not informed may seem like magic
You don't just get into space without asking yourself much bigger questions.
And when those questions have answers, you obviously look small in comparison. It all scales up.
What makes it meaningful for me is that these small struggles still contribute to the broader whole.
That Gods would watch us must mean that our actions and choices do have an impact on the world around us, so the core themes of "hope" against all odds, "Duty and Service", "Self-Sacrifice", "Survival at all costs", and "What it means to be human" are all themes with a deep meaning that our gameplay contributes to.
I like it.
@@KillerOrca You see the thing nobody brings up about that "indistinguishable" quote is that is states that there is a difference but we're too stupid to figure it out
@@14megasxlr Either that or the gods are bored. think about it I watch a fly for a week and if he were human levels of sentient he would think he's special. Now he could be or maybe I just have a week to kill and wonder how flys work.Why? Because unlike the fly I can and will. His 7 days are a fleeting memory despite his lifetime
I like that interpretaion too
What i dont inder stamd is how the forerunners destroyed the precursor when they were sooo mich more advanced
The short of it is that they didn't. The Precursors are eternal constants, beyond the confines of space and time, beyond the Forerunners' ability to even attack. But the Precursors used avatars to interact with the mortal races they created, and those are what the Forerunners attacked, and the Forerunners' "success" was merely a consequence of the Precursors not having their avatars defend themselves, allowing them to be exterminated, except for the remnants turned into dust (eventual re-emergence as the Flood) or put into Neural Physical Temporal Stasis Chambers (eventual re-emergence as the Harbinger and the Endless).
Can someone direct me to a source that says the precursors were going to wipe out the forerunner??? I always understood the forerunners attacked the precursors because they wanted to keep the mantle. But if they did it to prevent their own annihilation then maybe the genocide of the precursors was well deserved.
So humanity found the flood and it then started to consume them immediately afterward?
Humanity found dust in jars, which seemed inert, and when they experimented on/with it, they found that when fed to their pets, it made them more docile and friendly. So finding no negative effects, they started using it on their pets across their empire. It wasn't until much later when their pets suddenly started sprouting tentacles, releasing spores that caused humans who came into contact with the spores to do the same. It wasn't long after then that the Flood first emerged, transforming those infected into undead Lovecraftian horrors.
Great video! We don’t know if other Precursors hide in our physical realm elsewhere than just on Netherop. The connection to harbinger and Endless is especially suspicious.
In the Kardashev scale, Precursors would be a type 4, capable of using the energy of an entire universe and to manipulate the fundamental structure of space time
Neural Physics can be described as the science/art/sorcery of manipulating/bending soul and consciousness.
Oooh you haven’t done a Halo video in a long time.
fascinating!
I haven’t watched five minutes of ancient aliens but I often have been asked after sharing my theories on life and the universe, if I have and if that’s where I got it from.
I’m convinced that show is a psyop to shut simple minds down when they start connecting dots.
How about the Six Infinity Stones coverage?
saw the word "Precursors" and thought it was the ones from the Jak franchise, but Halo is good, too.
Whoa 😮 I appreciate this coherent way to learn the lore 😊 thank you ❤
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Fun fact sea scorpions are an extinct species of literally crocodile sized sea scorpions from the Devonian Age. They were some of the first creatures that evolved the ability to walk on land.
Its B.C not bce
in the Halo universe it is B.C.E., if they put zero at the French Revolution or the first contact with aliens, that is what I will use when explaining lore from that universe. Don't make this something it is not
ghostytigger yes. something like that. I could agree, indeed.
In real life it’s sometimes written as BCE as well so yeah this is just a weird nitpick 😅
b.c.e (before common/current era) is often, and increasingly, used instead of b.c. (before christ) for a few reasons, mostly religious neutrality
as the person above mentioned!
Anyone else think if the flood evolves enough they will go back to being a precursor?
Some of the best world building in gaming, up there with elderscrolls, mass effect, Pokemon, and fallout. They really understood scifi and had a deep passion for the world they were crafting. They put so much effort into making a compelling story to what was, by the 3rd installment quickly becoming a multiplayer shooter in the zeitgeist that most kids never even touched the campaign. Then...suddenly...they just stopped caring.
A lot of modern game dev teams in the west we see hating on games like elden ring and BG3 for what they tout as "an obscene amount of unnecessary detail that players will never experience". Its often even more deep than they know such as every single NPC in elden ring given a face, eyes, and facial details that not only match their descriptions in the lore but their eyes often give away a profound truth about them you wouldnt find out until the near end of your playthrough, the only issue? Almost all of them have armor that covers these faces, no one will ever see them unless they opened the textures up with a special program and remove their clothes. They could have easily just used a blank standard head for all of them or none at all! No one would have known...accept thats not true is it? They would have known. They care about the consistency of the world they made. Things like not realizing all the ruins throughout the game are actually of one of the last levels and all the random designs and mosiacs not only have profound meanings and lore implications but literally match up such that the devs actually created the city(farumszula) then broke it up and places the ruins that way. Insane level of world consistency and attention to detail.
You may not notice that detail, or the faces or the fact everyones eyes tell you who they serve and why or any one thing but these hyper passion filled decisions act as flags to us players. A dev team willing to go to such lengths and have such pride in their world is not going to give you a crap game. The people that made fallout 1 and 2 and even wrote a lore bible made such a good and believable world because they built a world they played in. Thus it was a world they personally cared about and it shows. Western game companys have begun hiring non gamers to make their games or worse gamers who dont make the game they are working on to be fun to them personally. They have no passion or connection to this escapism and thus they fall into vapid traps like uing the franchise as a method to platform their cringe personal political beliefs. A game developer who would take a once non modern political game franchise and immediately begin stuffing it with trump or obama hate refrences and dialogue is a game dev who isnt making a game, they are exploiting the franchise and converting someone elses passion into pure vanity. I believe this is why these companys like bioware, bethesda, and 343 now suck at world building. They no longer even view their job as a world builder, but rather at best, a gambling and behavioral addiction salesman whos job it is to link all these addiction systems together into a coherent story that a child will be able to easly wander into their digital exploitation traps.
At worst these devs view them selves as propagandists, as specialized digital activists that have a duty to deconstruct your world to prop up their ego.
So sad, this is why we need to protect Japan from this memetic marxist-decnstructionist mind plague. They are our only hope for eacapist media now.
A surprise to be sure.
But a welcome one! 😊
could you do a breakdown of the scorpion tank
Can you also do battletech?
More halo again😊
This sounds like the same argument Tarns people use to explain their nonsense
frank o conner really ruined the forerunners that bad huh
We don't know if they actually intended to wipe out the Forerunners. It is left deliberately vague by the writers, and I think that is wise. Given the level of shame implied to exist on a cultural level in the Magellanic Cloud Forerunners, I think that was never the plan but was later used as a justification, a coverup. I mean they (the expeditionary force that chased the last of the Precursors down) deliberately burned their ships, and possibly themselves, leaving only a tiny group of survivors who had been marooned on a planet earlier for refusing to engage in xenocide. Sad fact is that the Forerunners were unfit to rule, and we see in the books that they were an extremely arrogant and violent species. So to be fair it might have been a wise choice for the Precursors to eliminate them.... but it just doesn't fit with even the limited lore we have on their society and philosophy
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Definitely should get back to Halo ship breakdown please. Especially since there's a such a slow down in Star Wars lore these days.
Halo ships such as:
-UNSC fighters
-UNSC ground attack aircraft
-UNSC MACs
-Covenant CCS battlecruiser
-Covie corvettes & frigates
Orion coming up next but those on the list too
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OORAH.
Wasn't expecting my main fandom to show up from a channel I follow for a side fandom.