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CLOCKWORK ANGEL BY CASSANDRA CLARE
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Well I liked Will because he's a sarcastic asshole. I dunno. I liked Jem because he's adorable and loveable. I honestly ship both Wessa and Jessa.
Omg me too
I don't think much of Will at the moment ether. I think my favorite part in the book is ether when Magnus talks about how he prefers black hair and blue eyes (Malec!!) or when Church is introduced at the end.
Dude. I flipped at the black hair blue eyes comment. Like literally. I started fangirling like no other fangirl before.
Me to it's impossible not to fangirl over Malec!
glad I'm not the only one
OMG that was so awesome when he said he liked black hair and blue eyes
NekosBooks YES THAT PART WITH CHURCH MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH JEM
I honestly don't know whether I like Will or Jem better, even after re-reading the series.
I like them both.
Finally someone who likes them both I have just read the clockwork prince and I am going to read clockwork princess soon enough and I have read the whole mortal instruments series except the heavenly fire because I knew Tessa Will be there I didn't want to get spoilers so I am reading TID
And I do know a bit about the ending only a bit (spoiled I know but still not much)and I love will and jem equally will loved Tessa but when jem announced he was engaged with Tessa she prayed that everyone will clap because it will break Jem's heart if they don't will was the first person to congratulate them I felt that scene but jem is amazing too!!no matter what I read in clockwork princess and heavenly fire will change my opinion I saw many ship videos and was always disappointed to see everyone favouring one either will or jem. but finally somebody on the planet who likes the both!!
WILL IS BETTER
AHHHHH SO HAPPY YOU FINISHED IT AND YOU LIKED IT YAYYY!!!! NOW YOU SHOULD READ THE REST =D !!!!!!!! ABOUT WILL. YOU'LL SEEEEEE. YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU'LL SEE. NO NO JEM.
Hi
excuse you. YES YES JEM.
Emma A IKR JEM IS AMAZING
Opinions opinions, Christine, and this is a time when mine differs from yours :)
I LOVE WILL SO FRIKING MUCH ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY
I AM OBSESSED WITH WILL!!!!!!!! I AGREE THAT DUCKS ARE SCARY!!!!!
You will learn why Will is like he is :) when you know, you will like him more
Lol hopefully
I know and as I do like him more I still like jem better
I hated Will in the first book, and by the end of Clockwork Princess, I loved Will so much! I read the Infernal Devices first and while recently reading City of Bones, I was surprised by the similarities between Jace and Will, though I still like Will a lot more.
allonsy 100% agree with you. I think that when you read further into the book, you will start to understand Will more and why he treated Tessa that way. I ship Wessa ❤️
olivia :0 i like jace better than will although i’m only on the first book on infernal devices. (and yes, i read the mortal instruments before the infernal devices)
jessseeee J-E-M
IM JUST BAD AT PRONOUNCING NAMES 😭
Who cares? Nobody
P.S. I
Hahha yeah it's like GEM But with a J lol
Giselle Luna who doesn't???
I don't really understand why everybody likes Will either. I don't dislike him but he pales in comparison to Jem for me. Can't wait to see you what you think about the next two books.
SAME!
Jem forever
TeaLeavesAndBookBindings HE ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY PALES IN COMPARISON TO JEM AND I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE LOVE HIM SO MUCH TOO!
Well to me, JEM PALES IN COMPARISON TO WILL
I just have a thing for men who treat me like garbage. And I don’t know if I hate that I always find myself in love with these types of characters :’)
I'm actually really glad you didn't immediately like Will in Book 1. He's kinda abusive and manipulative and just an all around terrible person. However you find out why he's like that in book 2 and that's why people like him:) (trust me: he's not so bad once you get to know his character...unlike Jace who has no excuse) However Jem is forever my angel and you'll probably like him more than Will anyway xD x
DANIELLA, YOU DON'T LIKE JACE EITHER?!? HOW HAVE WE NOT DISCUSSED THIS?
I never really understood why everyone loves Jace so much. He thinks of himself so highly, and when he doesn't get something he throws a tantrum. He's just so irritating, and I can't find a single redeeming quality about him.
laurenjohnsonreads Ugh he is TIRELESSLY ANNOYING.
Neverjustabook Exactly. And tbh his character development was very lazy
DaniellaBooks The reason jace is like that is because of Valentine. He thinks he's the best Shadowhunter, because he is. Also, a lot of Jace's cockiness is just a shield he uses
I ship Jem and Tessa too tbh
Yess jem and tessa. I'm reading book 2
Same
I agree with everything you said about the characters. Character development-that is why I like Will, fantastic character development. Personally, I love both ships (Jessa and Wessa) because they all do love each other. I love Jem
bBooks so glad he died
So glad he died too
I though exactly the same of Will and Jem at the beginning! I was so confused that everybody loved Will so much and he reminded me way too much of Jace. But when I got to know him better, I loved them both SO much! And their friendship is just .. I can't even put it into words ..
Yes, finally someone who don't like Will. I don't hate him or anything, but he is quite an awful person and I feel like a lot of girls forgive him just because he is hot and he is a bad boy with some tragic back story. But I don't buy all this stuff. He is mean and heartless a lot of time. And Jem, JEM!!!! How could you not love him? He is amazing! Kind, calm, adult, he also has a super tragic back story but that doesn't make him a jerk! And that makes me love him even more!
Juli-Yashka HE SAVED CHURCH AND WILL WAS GOING TO LEAVE CHURCH THAT PUT JEM OVER THE TOP
I hated will for most of Clockwork Angel and part of Clockwork Prince but I hated him less when I found out about the whole 'everyone who loves him will die' thing, cause he was an ass so he wouldn't get anyone killed
Just read clockwork pirince and you're gonna love will herondale. Bc he is beautiful like a llama.
I love Jem too
Oh my gosh dont decide yet! This is only the first book! Make your decisions about the shipping in the very end XD There is still sooo much to it
honestly I ship jem and Tessa but I can't not ship will and Tessa
Danni. K Yesssss... I know. I can't help the fact that I ship Will and Tessa. But I really ship Jessa
I read the trilogy and OMG!! Even though we find out about what happened to Will later, it broke my heart and I really fell in love with him. But Jem... He is my EVERYTHING!!! He's my favorite between him and Will!!! Jem is my ""dying angel". *cries* I LOVE YOU JEM!!!!:’-(:’-(
I LOVE JEM TOO!!!
I think you are the only person I know that also didn't like Will. I've read all three and at the end, I didn't mind him but I didn't love him. I'm so happy that I've found another Jem and Charlotte lover, as well!
Do't worry, I'm in the same boat as you my friend
Yes! Finally somebody agrees with me when I say that I just LOVE Jem! Will's character annoys me because he is just so mean all the time! I know he has his reasons, but that doesn't justify his behaviour! Jem has also been through some shit, but we don't see him being an ass, ever! Anyway, I loved this book! Can't wait to read the other two! :)
They just handle things differently, how one person handles things is so different to the way another person will.
After Clockwork Prince, you'll understand why Will is such an asshole. I honestly feel so bad for him
OMG IKR THE BRIDGE SCENE WAS SO BEAUTIFUL
I have to admit, in Clockwork Angel I had a serious love/hate relationship with Will because in the moments where he was truly himself and let his guard down he was such a likeable character but then when he pushed Tessa away and said what he said to her at the end of the book (about her not being able to have kids) I really thought he was an asshole. I love Will and you definitely get a better insight into how sweet he is in the last two books. Even though I ship Wessa so much the overall love triangle was just so beautiful and amazing. I definitely prefer it to TMI.
I am SO excited that you're reading this trilogy!
I want to talk to you about WHY we all love Will so much.. but of course I can't... because that would be a spoiler, and this trilogy is too marvelous to spoil. I'll just shut my mouth and let you read the books. lol We must talk when you're done though! They just get better and better! Love this trilogy way more than the Mortal Instruments!
I've read all three books and Jem will always be my sweetheart
I feel the same way
I am so happy that you're finally reading this trilogy. It's my favourite trilogy of all time right about now. And I'm so glad you love Jem so much cause I do too he's so amazing and I love him so much honestly just read the other two books I don't want to spoil it for you but *screams*
Yay! You ship Jem and Tessa! I don't really like Will either and that didn't change after I read all the books.
same :)
I agreed with you about everything!
Throughout this whole video I was just like, "Yup, yes, mmhmm."
I'm still finishing up Clockwork Prince but is it bad that I actually ship Jem & Will bc...
Jay same!!!! I still felt bad for him
HERONSTAIRS
No... Is it bad that I shipped will and Magnus in the second book...
I recommended this series to you and you said you were excited for it, so I was really worried you'd hate it!! Ha :D When you said this series feels different to the Mortal Instruments, I completely agreed because I've always felt like TID is like a rainy London evening, all foggy and mysterious, and it has Victorian poetry, fashion, rapier wit and a fascinating setting! It took everything I liked about TMI and transplanted it into one of my favourite eras and cities. Perfect. I get why you don't like Will, I didn't at first - although I appreciated his sense of humour! Jem is such a sweetheart. He's lovely. I'm so glad you liked the book!
Sometimes I like Will sometimes I don't. I love Jem all the time tho.
Honestly, I love Will since the first book :'v ❤ idk (?
nooooo..so I'm on like page 350 something and I thought nothing else important would happen so I watch the spoiler part... betrayal😂😭 haha never doing that again....😂
Maci Ramadan You thought nothing important would happen... near the end of the book?
You're right about Will; after you get to know him you may like him a lot more. When I read this book, I had heard about Will and I was confused because it was hard to see why I would like him, but I really want to know him after the first book. And yes Tessa is brilliant for shape shifting when Mortmain tried to take her. I read this over a year ago and I still can't get over how amazing that was.
Im kinda glad that you said that you didn't like will... Cause i thought i was the only one 😄 and yeah: jem and tessa are so cute ❤️❤️
Same
same
Finished the 3rd book a while ago and just gotta say it only goes uphill from here. Clockwork prince expands on the world so much and introduces a lot. Clockwork princess wraps up everything and gives everyone, uhh how do I word this without spoiling? Nevermind just know it's the best of the 3
I just finished Clockwork Angel and i just wanted to note that Jem and Tessa would have been such an amazing couple if not for the fact that every majority of their conversations was about Will. There were so many times where they had such deep and open conversations together with and then suddenly WILL.
Will upsets me in this book but Idk why I can't help but love his character, still? And reading the reviews, I definitely would love him in the next!! I just hope there's better concept and more character development!
Yes, YES! Finally! I'm sorry for all Will lovers out there, but I just hated his guts! Jem was amazing, even though he had those terrible things happen to him when he was a kid, he did not become selfish, arrogant, mean, etc. He's just a super nice character, and I love him so much. Will, on the other hand, seemed like an ass. :(
What you said about Tessa, I so agree! I felt sorry for her, too, and I really admired her for that scene at the end. She IS a smart girl, and I hope to see her "smartness" evolve in the following books.
Charlotte was OK, she was very believable as a character, because she seemed like a normal woman (as normal as shadowhunters get, I guess...) entrusted with great responsibility, and she had doubts and fears sometimes, and that was OK.
What/who I want to see more of is Bane. I freaking loved him! He's funny, he's mysterious, he has this alluring aura around him. I'm really intrigued to see where the ending of the book will take us. Him and Will? That's gotta be worth reading. :D
All in all, you made some really good points on this book. Looking forward to your opinion on those other two books in the series!
P.S. You didn't say anything about Mortmain. I mean, I actually saw that coming a mile away. I don't know why, but I kind of knew from the moment when Charlotte and Henry visited him... I just had a feeling, and that feeling came true.
Wait till you read the second book. Your opinion about Will is very very likely to change.
I hated Will as well. However, my opinion of him has only gotten to more of an indifference to mediocre liking, as opposed to the obsessive love most fans have. I still and always will prefer Jem (yes I have read all books).
Sophie Luvs Books I don't know about that... I'm all about first impressions. And Will came off as a really annoying, selfish guy. But who knows, probably....
***** Haha, I think that'll be me as well. And yeah, Jem is amazing! Too bad he's got that problem, you know? I really want to see what happens to him in the other books. Will, on the other hand, doesn't present much of an interest to me... I couldn't care less what happens to him. :))
Loredana Adriana But some people aren't always what they seem. It is the same in real life. Sometimes you really have to know someone's story. And no spoilers or anything, but I'd be willing to bet that you'd probably act the same exact way as Will if you were in his situation. Will is now probably my favorite character of all time and it's because of just how much depth he has as a character. I actually re-read the series recently and re-reading Clockwork Angel (and the other books) actually made me love him more. So wait and see. (btw, I'm not arguing that Jem isn't amazing. I love Jem. Personally, I've just always preferred Will.)
I got to admit I'm really curious about your future thoughts about Will.
My favourite part was definitely the introduction with the Dark Sisters! Like for me it really set us up for how dark the story may be and it was just so atmospheric like I could literally feel like I was in those scenes with Tessa :)
Later in the series you really learn more about Wills past which makes him very sympathetic which will help you like him a lot more. I adore this series and think it is better than Mortal Instruments. Throughout the book I was also a huge Jessa shipper and I love the relationship arch between Tessa and all of the characters!
I felt the same exact way about Will when I read the first book! I thought he was such an ass, tbh. I preferred Jem too in the beginning. But as the series goes on you get to learn why he acts the way he does and he also has a lot of redeeming qualities. It was so conflicting for me because I didn't know who to ship because I loved them all so much together! "Do I Wessa? Or do I Jessa?" Then I ultimately just started shipping Herongraystairs.
I loved the attic scene with Will. After you get into the second book, you start to understand his character more and boy is he one amazing person. WESSA FOREVER
What I like about Will, even if it's just in the first book, is how much he cares about Jem. Like he would do anything for him, and despite him being a jerk at times, I figure that anyone who can care for someone as much as Will does for Jem can't be a horrible person so there must be a reason for that.
I really like the scene where they are all having breakfast and Jessamine asks Tessa how does it feels to be evil, and Tessa asks her if she wants her to conjure up the devil so she can meet him since she's so interested in the topic. LOL
As for shipping, I can't choose between Will and Jem :X I think all three of them are best when they're all together.
There are elements of Will 's past in book two that explain why he acts the way he does, also his reaction to the love triangle vastly improves the way you will view him. Urgh by the end of book two all I wanted to do was grab Jem and Will in my arms and hug the poor babies.
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EXACTLY!! i don't only dislike will , i HATE him, though i never felt like that with jace. I loved jace, maybe that's because jace had a past and he was so greatly described and crafted. He was just so amazing and he was like will but still there were differences. The way he talked and the slight humor in his talk, he cared for everyone and he was never rude to anyone. Will is nothing like him.
Clockwork Angel was a fun book for me back when I read after “City of Fallen Angels" because of all the character compares and contrasts between the two series, and how some scenes are similar. I loved how Jem is the opposite of Will and those two get along so well, Henry with his inventions (Henry is just adorable), Will 's hatred over ducks. the De Quincy Party, and how Mortmain was the villain because I did not see that coming. Sophie was a great sisterly figure towards Tessa and I did not see the whole her loving Jem thing at all! And Nate...I was MAD when he did what he did- like what Caleb did to Tris!!! And about William Herondale you WILL come around to love him in the second and third novels because he grows so much. Really all the characters grow and change so beautifully which is why I love “The Infernal Devices" even more than “The Mortal Instruments". :) :) :)
Yes, you have to give Will time. I really started liking his character half way through Clockwork Prince. And my favorite scene from this book is when Tessa is rescued and we meet Will and Jem!
Yay!!! Loved this video! Couldn't stop smiling; so excited you're reading this trilogy now. My favorite part is definitely the De Quincey scene as well. It was so good!
Cassandra Clare's books are so intriguing! Love all her books. On what you said about Nate, I read something very interesting on a post commenting on the characters who represented the virtues/vices cards (Nate was greed, by the way) saying that if "he [was] alive today, he’d probably be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder."
girls like assholes in literature i wish i could tell you why we love boys we would hate in real life but for some reason the witty douchebags are so damn attractive
but i am a girl and i can confirm this
omg no
no jessa,
jesse please XD
praying you see the light with the rest of this series
i'm unbelievably biased towards will though, so my opinion doesn't mean much hahhah
i was going to say "you may not like will at first, but if i recall you didn't like jace either and now i think you at least tolerate him lol" but then you literally just said that haahh
i love will because he's basically jace in victorian england and jace is my all time favorite male protagonist so again, i'm a little biased ahah
I agree about the beginning taking a while but once it went it was sooo good
THE EXPLANATION ABOUT WILL IS JUST SO GOOD OMG
Love all Cassandra's books, The Infernal Devices was my favorite just because it took place in a time where love was declared more intensively and poetic. Will and Tessa!
SO I read these back in 7th grade as just a quick read and to pass my reading class and now I own every book by Cassandra Clare.... I loved Will in the sense that... well he was Will but I fell head over heels for everyone else.... but Jessamine... that pain was later. I cried over this book, and the others, and laughed for this book. I recommend it to everyone I meet who want a good read and love the way Cassandra Clare pushes all these universes together. With Vampires and werewolves and magic in general I thought she mixed it all in well and plan on rereading the books soon
I literally HATED Will during the first book but just wait. Wait. He's one of my favorite characters ever now.
Also Jen is perfect! He IS my favorite character ever!
I've always shipped Jessa! You are not alone!
Trust me, Jesse. Will is going to grow on you. I'm so happy you finally read this! It's hands down my favourite trilogy!!!
My favorite moment is the end too.Oh my God! I would never do that. Tessa is amazing.
I only read the first book and I love Will soooo much... i know he doesn‘t treat Tessa well, but I love that he is so sarcastic, it‘s like the best. Even though I absolutely love Jem as well
Gosh I can't wait til you finish the trilogy and see how they all connect! It's just...so many feels
Thank God! Someone else who doesn't like Will Herondale! And someone who ships Jem and Tessa, yes! I never learned to like Will and I really don't get why people do. But really good review, I agree with everything you said, can't wait to see your thoughts on Clockwork Prince
Same
this trilodgy is the best trilodgy EVER!! its soooo good and dont worry youre not the only one shipping Jem and Tessa together, they are the bestest. i cant wait for you to finish this trilodgy... omggggg its sooooo good
I agree with you, Will is an Ok character for me now and I really love Jem's character and back story more, I just finished the book an hour ago and I have to say It's one of the best books I read for a while, each page is full and rich of details and I wasn't bored through it. Also i have to say I love Sophie and still feeling sad for Thomas :(
"I dont understand why people like [Will]"
Well the 2nd book is when everyone starts to love him if they didnt already, and if they did amplified.
I love the sarcasm but I just wanna hug him knowing what I know even when I re read the c angel
So glad you finally read it!!! You have to read it all in a row and I had a huge book hang hangover from this series because they were so good!! 😍 the story is amazing!!!
You just have to give Will a chance! He has a really good reason for acting like he is, I just know you'll grow to love him! (And if you don't then there's something seriously wrong with you) the fun thing about this series is that the love triangle is so different then other love triangles and you'll find you why in the other books! I'm so happy you finally read this! I have to warn you, I just read the series last month and I'm still not over it!
and Henry is a sweet talented bean who needs to be protected at all costs
COB was Cassies first book so thats why. I loved it so much.
I absolutely love will, but you're right, you just need to give it time. I can't explain to you why I love him without spoiling, so I won't, but just keep an open mind while reading clockwork prince, an by the end of clockwork Prince it will all make sense and you will understand him better
By tha Angel, your eyes! I'm in love with your eyes! Okay, now, about your question: I prefer Will. I understand that Jem is really a kind and nice guy, but I'm not really into good guys. I'm more of a bad-attitude boy. And I also LOVE his ego and his black humor. GOD. I love it SOO much.
You will love Will! You will see why he acts the way he does in the next book and it will break your heart!!
Read Clockwork Prince and you'll understand why we love Will Herondale so much. I loved Will from the moment he was introduced but you don't fully understand his reasonings until CP. I love Jem too, it's impossible not to, he's a real gem (:
I liked Will from the first book because of his sense of humor, his wit, the love he professes to books and poetry (even if he doesn't openly admit it) and (the most important reason, the main reason) because of his relationship with Jem. Will loves Jem, honestly, deeply, and thanks to their relationship, we can see that he is not as bad as he wants everyone to believe he is. I liked Will because I knew there was a reason for his behavior. But I completely understand that you don't like him at this point. I'm glad you enjoyed first book (and that you like Jem. I personally consider him one of the greatest character of the series).
Clockwork Prince is my favorite book in the entire trilogy! You learn so much more about the characters and it's just amazing!!!!
Me too! I just finished Clockwork Angel and I find WIll extremely annoying. With a lot of book games I've watched on youtube, a lot of people really like WIll! I don't know if it's because he gets better in the other books... but I don't like WIll at the moment. Haha guys don't kill me!
Just Wait Till Clockwork Prince. I Cried So Bad.
You are right. I cried so bad at the end of Clockwork Princess though... ahhh
I cried at clockwork prince and princess
Finished the book today. It’s my first Clare book. I just have to say, as of now, her writing is nothing special, nothing to blow me away, but damn she can tell a story really well. I thoroughly enjoyed the premise of the book, the development, the bits and pieces we find out about the characters ar the book progresses. And the plot twists, gosh the plot twists! Those were amazing. And the fight scenes were really well done, just the right amount of info to get a clear picture of what’s happening and still be able to use your imagination to create some vivid imagery in your mind.
I can’t say too much about the characters, i feel lke there is much more to find out about them, Will is just a generic asshole right now, Jem seems pretty cool, Tessa is great, Jessamine feels like a coward, Charlotte is a strong female character with some depth to her and Henry is just mood and i really relate to him.
Can’t wait to read the next book!
Will gets better, but Jem is forever my boo. He's been my #1 from the very beginning so I'm very glad you feel the same!
I just read this the past week, now I'm starting clockwork princess... I may be slightly obsessed.
I tore through this trilogy in January! I love Charlotte and Henry so much- and Will but that took time! I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the next two. And I definitely agree on the love-hate relationship with Jessamine.
I just got into fantasy and I am in love!!! I agree as of right now.. having only read this 1st book in the trilogy.. Jem and Charlotte are my fav 2 characters and then Tessa. I have a love hate with Will. Interested to see how it changes.
Ahhh now I really want you to read the rest of the trilogy!! It just keeps getting better and better. Hope you get to them soon!
Will has honorable reasons for everything he does. He cares for Tessa & Jem more than any Cassandra Clare character has cared for anyone (except perhaps Jem towards Will & Tessa). I promise he's an amazing person.
Oh I loved jem in the first ever conversation he had with Tessa
Please make a video after each book because I love hearing your opinions about one of my favorite series' EVER. I felt the same way about Will and you're right he really just needs a little time. And Jem. Just I can't. I love him so much, I can't even put it into words! Overall, I just love the series so much!
I love Will, and I think you'll enjoy his character much more as the series continues:)
And also, the ship is Herongraystairs. They all love each other. It is beautiful.
Yay!! You finally read it!
Team Jem as well.
The series, in my opion, gets better as it goes on, and you'll find out quickly why Will is how he is and learn to love him as well as be torn between him and Jem for Tessa's love interest.
I'd love if you'd make a Dream Cast Video
Jesse we are on the same page about Will. I like Jem better :)
I LOVED THIS, through out the video I kept screaming YES SAME.
MY FAVORITE SCENE IS IN THE ATTIC WITH TESSA AND WILL HOW THEIR FIRST KISS TASTED LIKE BLOOD AND WATER
i loved jem . he is so kind . and so understanding . i enjoyed clockwork Angel so much it such an clean book
I agree with you, I LOVE Jem way more too!! I finished it today and I'm excited to continue the trilogy :)
One of my favorite trilogies! Love every character.
I was in a K-mart when I saw this book a couple years ago, and im so glad I bought it, my favorite Trilogy so far. My favorite part of the book was when Jem opened up and let us actually take in who he really is
YES JEM AND TESSA OTP
I completely agree, JEM NEEDS LOVE TOO
Oh my gosh I love that series!!! You should also look into the Bane Chronicles!!!!
Thank Goodness, When I Started TID I Felt Like EVERYONE In The Fandom Was Licking Will's Kneecaps and Soooo In Love With Him... But Even Before Reading TID and Before Reading CoHF, I Had Always Loved Jem after reading about his character I Just Really Loved Him! Then I Started The Series and I Loved Him Even Moooorreee! I Originally was a TMI Stan and Can Proudly Say: I LOVE JEM THAN ALMOST ANY CHARACTER IN TMI!!! And I Ship Him and Tessa Sooooo Hard😭😭😭😭
Finally someone who doesn't love Will right from the first book! I know I didnt and I was so confused as to why my friends loved him so much. I still dont love him, or like him that much, but, you know, to each their own.
I'm so glad you like Jem and you ship Jessa :) I was so happy when you said that! Jem is so underrated and the ship is underrated as well. I ship them so much and it sucks in the fandom always seeing so much hate on him and jessa :( You made my day Jesse.
And I know it's just an opinion and it should't affect me this much but oh well.