I think the most controversial guitar ever is my signature deluxe edition air guitar. Gibson attempted to make it, but they claimed that the air in Tennessee is too rich in nitrogen too construct an air guitar that stays in tune. So, I naturally took my design to Fender and they made it, but it retails at 10,000 American dollars (because I had them install QUADRUPLE humbuckers) .
When I was a kid I fell in love with this odd colored olive green burst Les Paul. Found out it was referred to as a Slime Burst which started out as a Silver Burst but after playing in smoky clubs the nicotine turned it that awesome green color.
Everything about this channel is so legit. Sometimes it's sweet tunes. Sometimes it's a history lesson. Sometimes it's a guitar lesson. Sometimes it's the infinite exploration of the Miku pedal. Always great stuff sensei.
I used to own a US Gibson Les Paul, and a Japanese lawsuit les paul from 71. Sold the Gibson ages ago, but the Lawsuit LP is still one of my favorite guitars
“If Mayer wants a signature Strat, he should just stick with the company that perfected it” So G&L then? Leo did say it was the best design he created.
Since some people make fun of the Reverse Flying V, but samuraiguitarist likes his, that would seem a controversial guitar. Personally, I would think a normal flying V would be awkward to play while seated, but reversing the vee would fix that problem. It may look weird, but I'd rather have a guitar that looks weird but is pleasant to play than vice versa.
PRS: "Well, these are our main guitar models... What would you like? JM: "Something like that Strat" PRS: "Oh, that's not a PRS, that's actually my John Mayer Fender Strat! Haha! What a coincidence, right?... Now, seriously..." JM: "I said SOMETHING LIKE THAT STRAT!"
Imagine if this went to court. Judge: Do you have a defence for why your guitar isn’t a copy of the Stratocaster? PRS: Yes. The headstock is rectangular. Fender: …
@Dbomb Danny Leo called them his best instruments. You know G & L stands for George and Leo, right? As in George Fullerton and Leo Fender? Do some research, you ignorant slime.
@@rikkousa I understand... It actually plays fairly decently, it's just the frets are tall and sharp on the edges and the pickups aren't very good. The wood of course is phenomenal!!
Jimoff2 Gaming I don't know how much, if any, money you would want to put into it, but both of those issues could be addressed, especially the pickups, at a reasonable price. I hate to think you have what could be a good guitar sitting around that doesn't get played.
@@mitchhamburger6024 It's my next project. Deciding pickups, and I still do play it. It's my secondary gigging axe, mostly because it's driven tone is not bad, but leaves much to be desired. Also it has some dings now so I don't worry about scraping it up
I own a Government Series ll too, mine is the sg model and imo sounds very good, not the best but a good one, also idk what it has but i feel more confortable playing it than my other ephiphone sg :/
It was before my time but I’ve always thought the Gibson Explorer had to be a shock to guitarists. In 1959 there was still a lot of people playing L5 style arched top guitars which even though the size and feedback issues keep me from using that type of guitar they are a beautiful example of what a guitar looks like and the Explorer is so crazy compared to even Stratocasters which I’ve heard from older players were considered wild looking.
The silver sky is obv a start copy, but sooo many other companies (ie Suhr) have made strat copies for years without anyone complaining. PRS makes 1 guitar, and everyone loses it. Why?
But isn't the point that Suhr et al. have always done Strat derived guitars? PRS's entire shtick has always been that it did its own thing, had its own image. Even used their own scale length. Heck, if they'd even just used wood-mounted pickups and a rear-access control cavity so the guitar had no pickguard it probably wouldn't be as bad.
Because PRS are obnoxious and it felt like the icing on the cake. They talk about how original and high-quality their guitars are, price them so that only doctors and lawyers can get them, and then after all that they make a basic strat copy. It's like if a TV network sold themselves as the thinking man's network and went on about how intellectual their content was, while charging high pay-per-view prices... and then suddenly they did Night Court with the names changed and presented it like it was up to their standards.
samuraiguitarist Warmoth may pay you to do this or at least give you the pieces necessary to get you started. I've been wanting to do it for some time, and I would really enjoy watching someone else doing it before I get involved. It could be a miniseries
The albums were great, but I don't believe anyone who thinks his 1965 Newport Performance was an above average 1960s Dylan show. The sound is mixed way off. The band isn't tight. The drums sound like they're played by an average high school drummer. My favourite Dylan albums are electric, but I would have been booing too. ua-cam.com/video/w6eEjKySCg0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=UPRestorations
@@wodediannao4577I think he’d only assembled and rehearsed with his band the day before the performance, that would explain why they weren’t sounding tight.
i had one of those gibson les pauls. loved it. it was my first "real" guitar. bought it at a pawn shop. sold it many years later to help fund an engagement ring. no regrets. :-)
Gen. Layabout True, he's definitely more talented. Maybe he's jus picky. Id pro be the same way. 😏 I heard his sigs kick ass. I can't get above the Eric Johnson strats. Those are my fav, but my workhorse is a g&l, there way better than fender imo.
I have a message to all the people complaining about Gibson trying out different models and styles of guitars - grow up! ANY good business, especially one in the direct to consumer areas, know that you must be innovative and keep people interested. Gibson's flagship models, Les Paul and SG, are still in production whenever they try out these new models so what's the problem? They did not make the same mistake Coca-Cola did when they tried the new formula, anyone remember that? Now, you have two varieties, regular (which is the new flavor) and Classic (which is the original) but when Coke did this in the beginning they did away with the original flavor, a couple years went by and they introduced the "classic" for those who did not like the new flavor. If Gibson was doing away with the Les Paul or the SG when they try these new styles I could see people being upset, but that's not how they do it so what is the issue? You don't like the Modern V? OK, then don't buy it, yes it really is that simple! Just think, if Gibson never came up with new models and styles, none of us would be playing a Les Paul or an SG!! At least Gibson tries new things, when was the last new model Fender came out with? To be fair, I'm not that up on Fender news so maybe they have tried new ones, but I am unaware of any. For those saying Gibson's bankruptcy issues are related to these new models and their failure, no that's inaccurate. It was things not related to guitars that put Gibson in trouble.
Coca-Cola withdrew "new Coke" from the market in 2002. (Somebody pointed that out to me when I tried to use it as a similar example in a business meeting a few years ago. I would have said "Well, I don't drink Coke" but I was drinking a can of it right then :)
@@Are_you_eyeballing_me why not put a $5,000 price tag on it? It's their product they can do what they want, right? Of course it won't be a big seller but apparently they aren't concerned with that lol.
why is everyone so butthurt about bolt-on necks "robbing sustain"? you realize set necks are just 2 pieces fit and glued, right? if you NEED a set neck, do what i did. get some 5 dollar super-strong wood glue and smear some in the neck joint. bolt it back on, wipe it off and clean it. BAM, set-neck guitar. there is essentially no difference. so unless you require a through-neck (which even gibson generally doesnt do) then this is a 30 minute fix for under ten bucks. hell, you can even remove the screws and wood-filler the holes of you want and make it look factory set with a little touch-up paint. bolt-ons are cheaper to manufacture, but they dont really hurt anything and if you are concerned about losing that little bit of sustain, just glue the damn thing. its what Gibson does, they glue it.
Not to mention, bolt-ons actually have the best sustain, so says a master guitar builder anyway... ua-cam.com/video/BdZPGbDSYaM/v-deo.html UA-camrs or Master Luthier??? Hmm, think I know where I am getting my FACTS from.
I had an Ibanez LP in the 70s. No idea what happened to it. Just bought another one, cherry burst like my old one. It’s a bit rough but I’m glad to touch my history again. Looking forward to tidying it up and enjoying it again.
I feel like I'm one of the few folks who think the Modern Flying V looks awesome. No way in hell I'd be able to afford it any day soon, but if they made one in the $400-600 range then I would totally get one! And I don't even like Star Trek!
I mean, it does look good, but here’s the thing, you can get almost the exact same thing from Jackson who originally did that shape for a fraction of the price. Mind you, it won’t have the Gibson quality but it’s still the same shape.
There is an American company called Abstract Guitars, who produced a copy of Brian May's Red Special, going so far as to get Brian May to pose with one, and then brag that he officially endorsed it. In reality, he had nothing good to say about the instrument, noting that it felt cheap, sounded awful, and that he wanted nothing to do with the company.
John Mayer fell out with Fender, and went to Paul Reed Smith, renowned for his original instruments, to do a signature Strat copy. I was never outraged at this, merely amused. I think that's what the reaction really was.
You could do a Gibson only version of this. BTW, I just picked up a 2009 Gibson with the first generation Robot Tuner (pre-G-force, pre-MinEtune) and despite all the hate, I find it to be a great playing, great sounding guitar. I've had no issue with the tuners other than having to charge the batteries once a week, and it is easy to tune by hand. The neck is much thicker than I am used to, but I quickly got over it. I consider it $600 well spent.
G&L is probably the only company with a "strat knock off" that isn't considered cheap doing it, seeing as the inventors of the strat were heavily involved in the creation of G&L, and US G&L guitars are made in the original Fender factory
I also thought it looked ridiculous at first glance but I kinda got used to it. Especially the one with the Dark Glitter looks great. The Problem is that they're way too pricey even for Gibson.
Chris Franklyn I can also definitely think of a few bands that use heavy theming in live shows where that guitar would’ve fit in great (e.g., Netherlands, Man or Astro Man?). If the price wasn’t so high I think it could’ve definitely had some cult appeal
I kind of expected to see the Gibson Corvus on this list. That guitar (if I recall correctly) did not have a very long run because of its very unusual shape, and only certain guitar players (like Tim from Cursive and Mike from Drive-By Truckers), as well as its appearance in the first few Guitar Hero games were what gave it any exposure at all.
Not sure it's a "controversial" guitar, but my mind goes to the '61 Les Paul SG redesign, which Gibson had done without the dude knowing, and which Les Paul apparently hated so much he'd wanted his name removed from it
I heard a slightly different version of the story wherein Les Paul thought it was an OK guitar, but inferior to the original, and was primarily extremely angry that they had changed it without even consulting him. There are promotional photos of Les and Mary Ford both holding white SG style Les Pauls that you can find with Google. He supposedly promoted it for the couple years it was on the market in exchange for a promise to reintroduce the original, and consult him in the future regarding any further changes. (I think I got that version of the story from an old Les Paul interview, but I can't find it now ...)
Lethonai One of those guitars was on pawn stars, it was brought in by les and Mary's nephew. It had correspondence between les and gibson, he wanted his name OFF that headstock! I think they gave him 75-80 large for it
1) the bolt on neck on the Ibanez means that its Korean and not Japanese play an Actual MIJ with a set neck and you'll notice a huge increase in quality in comparison to the cheap Korean models 2) that's a post lawsuit witch are also known to have lower quality standards [post 1983] due to american companies starting to have those factories make cheap quality guitars for them like the early Squires
I recall reading an interview with Yngwie Malmsteen - "So Gibson came to me and said 'we want to make you custom signature model... anything you want', so I said build me a strat", so somewhere there is at least one Gibson Stratocaster...
ESP and Jackson made some different Flying V style guitars with the George Lynch signature and the Randy roads Roswell. They weren’t super popular, but they were pretty similar to the Gibson modern v. That aluminum Roswell is going for just shy of $10k if you can find it.
The Gibson Jimi Hendrix edition Stratocaster. Never actually made it to production because it got slated so much from the get go. Basically somebody at Gibson came up with the idea to do a Hendrix tribute Flying V, basically a nice USA made reissue of the one he had played. The idea was floated in the Gibson board room and came out the other side all mangled and they had decided that seeing as Hendrix was most known for playing a Strat that they were to make a Hendrix strat. Not only was the idea of a Gibson Strat horrible but they were to be cheap chinese beginner guitars that were supposed to come in a package with a Jimi Hendrix bandana and a little practice amp. The idea was abandoned after everyone reacted to the ad campaign and basically told them how terrible the idea was.
Back on the early 90s Tokai did some versions of Rickenbacker models which like the originals only had the logo on the truss rod cover. They also had F holes rather than slashes, like the then top money Beatles reissues Rickenbacker were doing. It was simple for people to swap the trussed cover and tailpiece and pass off a £300 guitar for a £1200 one.
A bolt on neck that is made with the same level of effort as a set neck will sustain better. Sustain from a neck joint comes primarily from how well that joint resists vibrations. If someone were to go through the effort of making the very best bolt on joint, the very best set joint, and the very best thru non-joint that they possibly could, the bolt on would by far have the best sustain. The reason set necks have the reputation for better sustain is thanks to 50s Gibson and 50s Fender having different goals in their guitar production. Gibson approached lutherie as a craft, mixing tradition with skill at scale. Not an art form where each instrument would have been painstakingly fawned over to perfection, but still a ton of pride was taken in the amount of care that was taken into making the instruments. Fender on the other hand approached lutherie as a platform for technology. What you got was innovation with a few cut corners for cost. It took a ton of convincing for Leo Fender to be convinced that the 1950 prototypes for the Fender Broadcaster (later renamed to the Telecaster) needed a truss rod. Fender even went to production with untrussed broadcasters in early 1951. It's part of why a Broadcaster in working AND original condition is such a rare thing. Why was this step skipped? $$ is why
Blast from the past! That Ibanez Les Paul was my first guitar. Mine was garbage even relative to Norlin era Gibsons, but quite inexpensive for the time. It was laminated from about a dozen pieces of what seemed like balsa wood, and therefore neck heavy. The pickups were unpotted and squealed like a Yuletide swine sacrifice. Today there are many far superior low-end guitars for dramatically lower prices (inflation adjusted).
_Very_ controversial. Gibson has become a very popular punching bag in the guitar community. I've seen people get torn to shreds on the internet simply for saying they _like_ their SG or Les Paul or whatever.
The modern v is like the Roswell by Jackson (I think). I actually liked the old Roswell, I almost bought one a few years ago and have regretted not buying it ever since. It was for sale for about £200 in mint condition, it was the high end version with the inlays too. I just couldn't justify the spend but I didn't realise the market value at the time so I screwed up as it was worth many, many times the £200 asking price. Such is life. Speaking of luck, back in the late 80s, a blues guitarist I knew picked up an original Vox teardrop in mint condition for £80 from a second hand shop. The guy in the shop said it was broken, he just didn't understand that electric guitars dont make any noise unless they are plugged in. What a score really. Can you imagine, £80 for an Original Vox teardrop, crazy!
I had the Black/Ivory binding "Lawsuit" Les Paul. Loved that guitar. Payed $100 for it and played it 16 years. It was manufactured in February, 1976. I also had the Iceman PS-10 Paul Stanley Signature Model. Got that in 82. It was made in December, 1981.
You went a different direction with the topic of this video than I thought you would. I thought you were going to mention the very, very odd guitars that came out like the SynthAxe or the Gittler Guitar. The SynthAxe that Allan Holdsworth played had strings that were discontinuous and frets that were all the same distance apart. The Gittler Guitar you'd have to see to believe. It looks more like modern art than a guitar. The Chapman Stick is another interesting one.
Lawsuit guitars were also made by Hondo and Aria, to name two. Most of the time from 1974-1980 Japanese guitars were better quality than actual Gibsons.
I really like your channel. I was thinking you could do a bit on guitars that were lost and found. Like Peter Frampton’s Les Paul that was reclaimed or found after the crash. Just a thought.
The bolt on copies are not lawsuit guitars. Greco, Burny, Tokai, Ibanez, and many other subsidiary companies in Japan built fine quality set neck reproductions of Les Paul's that adhered to the same construction and materials as a genuine Gibson Les Paul. I have a 1979 Cortez Les Paul that has a set neck but a tombstone headstock. Its construction differs from a single copy of a Gibson to that of a few Les Paul variations including features from Standard models and Custom models combined into one instrument (for instance: block inlays on a rosewood fretboard).
I bought my Ibanez LP Custom in 1973 for $299 ( actually I only paid about $100 because I traded in an Epiphone EA-250.) I worked in a music store and played it next to a new Gibson LP that went for $850 then. The Ibanez actually sounded better. I still have it. It's in mint condition but I don't care for the pick ups anymore. I've been offered $1200 for it, but I'll keep it.
The first PRS guitar seen at a gig was in the hands of Nik Kershaw. Paul handmade the guitar himself for NiK back when he was starting his company in the ‘80s
A video on mythical guitars like the left handed strat clapton was going to give to hendrix but he passed away before he could give it to him. are there any other stories like this?
Regarding Ibanez guitars, I do have to admit that the Ibanez RGA from Teemu Mäntysääri is the best guitar I have ever got to play. I've got to play a 90's Gibson Les Paul and a 2018 Fender American stratocaster. ( I can not recall the exact series it was from. ) The modern Ibanez guitars are absolutely mindblowing if you ask me. Even my inexpensive Ibanez gio 7 string delivers quite well for its price!
Gibson price to quality ratio is why I'm a hardcore Epiphone fan. I own an LP standard from early 90's and an EJ 200 SCE, and I love them, possibly more than the Gibsons I've played in my life.
To this day I had a Ibanez lawsuit era Lp that was the one that got away. Fortunately enough I had sold it to a friend of mine so I do still get to play it. Even with the bolt on neck the thing just ripped.
Lawsuit Martins. I have a 1974 Penco brand Martin knock off and it’s my favorite guitar. I think they were made in Japan in Ibanez facilities but sold out of Pennsylvania company “Penco”. If you ever see, one buy it.
I think, by the same token as the Modern V, you could have included the Firebird X. All the same problems, but even more pointed at as "this guitar symbolizes what's wrong with Gibson right now".
On UA-cam when those modern V Gibson’s came out a guy bought one and the color he got (purplish) was not very close to the images on their website. Lots of problems at Gibson.
My first electric guitar is called quest attack 5 it's a bit of an odd shape painted and shaped to look like fire. I traded my old dirt bike for it. I then moved on to an Ibanez rg550 late 80's model . Each of these are considered strat style guitars . The only Gibson stats I've tried all sound muted compared to the ibanez so I'm not a fan unless it's got a customized humbucker in the bridge. My vintage 1964 Sears Silverstone harmony is way warmer if I'm look for vintage blues sound. To me I kinda like the prs guitars or a solar with the everytune bridge, for my next guitar
The Gibson Modern Flying "V" should have been cross-marketed with the Abramsverse Star Trek since it not only looked like a Trek communicator badge but also because they both had serious quality control issues.
I think the most controversial guitar ever is my signature deluxe edition air guitar. Gibson attempted to make it, but they claimed that the air in Tennessee is too rich in nitrogen too construct an air guitar that stays in tune. So, I naturally took my design to Fender and they made it, but it retails at 10,000 American dollars (because I had them install QUADRUPLE humbuckers) .
Buck Throbb hahahahaha
Oh jeez, that got me confused for a second
@Ray Mattis Is there a double reverse neck model?
Being from Tennessee I can verify this fella's comment can't make good air guitars here
Ray Mattis I live in Tennessee. Can confirm
That "modern flying V" looks just like a Jackson Roswell Rhoads
Exactly, and that's a good thing!
That’s what I was thinking too!
I thought it was and he put the wrong graphic up. The Roswell was awesome looking . Released in the 90ies if my memory is working.😎
I thought it looked like the Star Trek emblem
Or the Star Trek Starfleet badge.
When I was a kid I fell in love with this odd colored olive green burst Les Paul. Found out it was referred to as a Slime Burst which started out as a Silver Burst but after playing in smoky clubs the nicotine turned it that awesome green color.
I love how 3 of these involve Gibson. You could literally make a list of the top 5 Gibson controversies.
Everything about this channel is so legit. Sometimes it's sweet tunes. Sometimes it's a history lesson. Sometimes it's a guitar lesson. Sometimes it's the infinite exploration of the Miku pedal. Always great stuff sensei.
I just found him and I sooooooo agree!
I had no idea people had such strong opinions about guitars that they could be controversial
You kidding???
I had no idea you were that ignorant to the depth of the guitarist community. You aren't now, though.
This only means Guitarists are some of the dumbest people out there! lol
Tone wood. (runs and hides)
@@PrestonSmithsMusic IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, DAMN YOU!
I used to own a US Gibson Les Paul, and a Japanese lawsuit les paul from 71. Sold the Gibson ages ago, but the Lawsuit LP is still one of my favorite guitars
“If Mayer wants a signature Strat, he should just stick with the company that perfected it”
So G&L then? Leo did say it was the best design he created.
My G (treble clef) L is one of the nicest players around.
Let me guess. Flying A?
Year: 2087
New models by Gibson: Standing A - Lying B - Sideways C - The Amazing Rolling O - and last but not least The Backwards SG
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Since some people make fun of the Reverse Flying V, but samuraiguitarist likes his, that would seem a controversial guitar. Personally, I would think a normal flying V would be awkward to play while seated, but reversing the vee would fix that problem. It may look weird, but I'd rather have a guitar that looks weird but is pleasant to play than vice versa.
@@flatfingertuning727 flying Vs are really comfortable to play seated once u get used to the classical position
how about the gibson jimi hendrix stratocaster
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@@andy_182 It is a absolutely real.
Anthony Staten why? What was wrong with them?
Whats wrong with them was because they're Strats.
Oh god
PRS- "Okay John, what would like me to build you?" ..JM- "I want a Fender Strat" ...PRS- "....say no more"
PRS: "Well, these are our main guitar models... What would you like?
JM: "Something like that Strat"
PRS: "Oh, that's not a PRS, that's actually my John Mayer Fender Strat! Haha! What a coincidence, right?... Now, seriously..."
JM: "I said SOMETHING LIKE THAT STRAT!"
Lmao
Imagine if this went to court.
Judge: Do you have a defence for why your guitar isn’t a copy of the Stratocaster?
PRS: Yes. The headstock is rectangular.
Fender: …
"If someone wants to play a strat they should just stick with the company that perfected it in the first place!"
You mean G&L :p
@Dbomb Danny Leo called them his best instruments. You know G & L stands for George and Leo, right? As in George Fullerton and Leo Fender? Do some research, you ignorant slime.
and here you can see two guitarists engaging in casual guitarist's talk
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@@angel-q Guilty as charged :)
LOL I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT!
I own a Government Series II Les Paul... It's cool but easily the worst playing guitar I own.
Its a gibie XD
@@rikkousa I understand... It actually plays fairly decently, it's just the frets are tall and sharp on the edges and the pickups aren't very good. The wood of course is phenomenal!!
Jimoff2 Gaming I don't know how much, if any, money you would want to put into it, but both of those issues could be addressed, especially the pickups, at a reasonable price. I hate to think you have what could be a good guitar sitting around that doesn't get played.
@@mitchhamburger6024 It's my next project. Deciding pickups, and I still do play it. It's my secondary gigging axe, mostly because it's driven tone is not bad, but leaves much to be desired. Also it has some dings now so I don't worry about scraping it up
I own a Government Series ll too, mine is the sg model and imo sounds very good, not the best but a good one, also idk what it has but i feel more confortable playing it than my other ephiphone sg :/
It was before my time but I’ve always thought the Gibson Explorer had to be a shock to guitarists. In 1959 there was still a lot of people playing L5 style arched top guitars which even though the size and feedback issues keep me from using that type of guitar they are a beautiful example of what a guitar looks like and the Explorer is so crazy compared to even Stratocasters which I’ve heard from older players were considered wild looking.
The silver sky is obv a start copy, but sooo many other companies (ie Suhr) have made strat copies for years without anyone complaining. PRS makes 1 guitar, and everyone loses it. Why?
But isn't the point that Suhr et al. have always done Strat derived guitars? PRS's entire shtick has always been that it did its own thing, had its own image. Even used their own scale length.
Heck, if they'd even just used wood-mounted pickups and a rear-access control cavity so the guitar had no pickguard it probably wouldn't be as bad.
Because PRS are obnoxious and it felt like the icing on the cake. They talk about how original and high-quality their guitars are, price them so that only doctors and lawyers can get them, and then after all that they make a basic strat copy. It's like if a TV network sold themselves as the thinking man's network and went on about how intellectual their content was, while charging high pay-per-view prices... and then suddenly they did Night Court with the names changed and presented it like it was up to their standards.
I have very bad news for PRS fans, I get their frustration, but the PRS is basically an overpriced strat shaped guitar with humbuckers.
The reason is simple: no flame maple top.
You should make a custom guitar and document it
That might not be such a crazy idea ;-)
The Grass Cutter. The name just writes itself. Assuming that you're a Usagi Yojimbo fan of course.
samuraiguitarist Warmoth may pay you to do this or at least give you the pieces necessary to get you started. I've been wanting to do it for some time, and I would really enjoy watching someone else doing it before I get involved. It could be a miniseries
Crazy to think that while Bob Dylan was producing the greatest music of his career, he was getting booed at every show.
The albums were great, but I don't believe anyone who thinks his 1965 Newport Performance was an above average 1960s Dylan show. The sound is mixed way off. The band isn't tight. The drums sound like they're played by an average high school drummer. My favourite Dylan albums are electric, but I would have been booing too.
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@@wodediannao4577I think he’d only assembled and rehearsed with his band the day before the performance, that would explain why they weren’t sounding tight.
The modern flying v looks like something straight out of futurama.
That Moderne V is killer! Too expensive, but otherwise, very cool. I would have trouble deciding between a traditional V, and a Moderne..
I actually like the look of the Star trek badge looking modern flying V
only the 4,500€ price tag is what is to much
The Jackson Roswell Rhodes was better.
Djarra yea true but the gibson has rounder edged
which looks cool while the rr jackson is more
shark fin like
The Roswell was much more rounded.
No gretsch.
*CAUSE YA CANT STOP THAT GREAT GRETSCH SOUND*
Oh, i thought that you didn't like Gretsch guitars at all telling by your profile picture.
Don’t let him find out about Gretsch’s Baldwin Era atrocities. 🤫
@@aidanbouw5224 That's Bo Didley though
i had one of those gibson les pauls. loved it. it was my first "real" guitar. bought it at a pawn shop. sold it many years later to help fund an engagement ring. no regrets. :-)
Maybe John Mayer should have gone to G&L
He's a prick. Pro doesn't know about G&L.
@@billythekid6418 A prick that's more talented than you'll ever be. Don't be jelly
Gen. Layabout True, he's definitely more talented. Maybe he's jus picky. Id pro be the same way. 😏 I heard his sigs kick ass. I can't get above the Eric Johnson strats. Those are my fav, but my workhorse is a g&l, there way better than fender imo.
Omg why can I not think of what g&l is!?!?! Gibson Lespaul??? Ack :'( *singer/songwriter fails*
SabiLewSounds G&L's are handmade badasses! Their Leo's best work!
I have a message to all the people complaining about Gibson trying out different models and styles of guitars - grow up!
ANY good business, especially one in the direct to consumer areas, know that you must be innovative and keep people interested. Gibson's flagship models, Les Paul and SG, are still in production whenever they try out these new models so what's the problem? They did not make the same mistake Coca-Cola did when they tried the new formula, anyone remember that? Now, you have two varieties, regular (which is the new flavor) and Classic (which is the original) but when Coke did this in the beginning they did away with the original flavor, a couple years went by and they introduced the "classic" for those who did not like the new flavor.
If Gibson was doing away with the Les Paul or the SG when they try these new styles I could see people being upset, but that's not how they do it so what is the issue? You don't like the Modern V? OK, then don't buy it, yes it really is that simple! Just think, if Gibson never came up with new models and styles, none of us would be playing a Les Paul or an SG!! At least Gibson tries new things, when was the last new model Fender came out with? To be fair, I'm not that up on Fender news so maybe they have tried new ones, but I am unaware of any. For those saying Gibson's bankruptcy issues are related to these new models and their failure, no that's inaccurate. It was things not related to guitars that put Gibson in trouble.
Ron Just Ron i have a message for you.
youtube really needs to bring back that comment character limit.
@@Cole-ek7fh lol.. yes I went a bit long, but somethings can't be said in just 140 characters or less.
Coca-Cola withdrew "new Coke" from the market in 2002. (Somebody pointed that out to me when I tried to use it as a similar example in a business meeting a few years ago. I would have said "Well, I don't drink Coke" but I was drinking a can of it right then :)
They can try out new models as much as they want, just don't put a $5000 price tag on them.
@@Are_you_eyeballing_me why not put a $5,000 price tag on it? It's their product they can do what they want, right?
Of course it won't be a big seller but apparently they aren't concerned with that lol.
The modern Flying V looks like a Star Trek logo lmao
why is everyone so butthurt about bolt-on necks "robbing sustain"? you realize set necks are just 2 pieces fit and glued, right? if you NEED a set neck, do what i did. get some 5 dollar super-strong wood glue and smear some in the neck joint. bolt it back on, wipe it off and clean it. BAM, set-neck guitar. there is essentially no difference. so unless you require a through-neck (which even gibson generally doesnt do) then this is a 30 minute fix for under ten bucks. hell, you can even remove the screws and wood-filler the holes of you want and make it look factory set with a little touch-up paint. bolt-ons are cheaper to manufacture, but they dont really hurt anything and if you are concerned about losing that little bit of sustain, just glue the damn thing. its what Gibson does, they glue it.
Not to mention, bolt-ons actually have the best sustain, so says a master guitar builder anyway...
ua-cam.com/video/BdZPGbDSYaM/v-deo.html
UA-camrs or Master Luthier??? Hmm, think I know where I am getting my FACTS from.
I had an Ibanez LP in the 70s. No idea what happened to it. Just bought another one, cherry burst like my old one. It’s a bit rough but I’m glad to touch my history again. Looking forward to tidying it up and enjoying it again.
I feel like I'm one of the few folks who think the Modern Flying V looks awesome. No way in hell I'd be able to afford it any day soon, but if they made one in the $400-600 range then I would totally get one! And I don't even like Star Trek!
JCdizzog epiphone one would be dope
I mean, it does look good, but here’s the thing, you can get almost the exact same thing from Jackson who originally did that shape for a fraction of the price.
Mind you, it won’t have the Gibson quality but it’s still the same shape.
@@CCAndPinkie Jackson gang
@@BlakeSpohn
Fo sho
I would love one as well. Love the looks.
maybe the fender blacktop HH series as it was a limited run and people are considering if the jaguar model is a real jaguar?
Yes I think the samurai guitarist should do more videos on shockingly enough guitars
I honestly love how his eyebrows make him forever angry. ❤
Hey Sammy! Just want to say I love your show and you definitely make it easy to rap my head around guitar and it's nuisances. Keep it up man.
Great video! I really enjoy learning new stuff, and I almost always learn something each time I watch one of your videos.
There is an American company called Abstract Guitars, who produced a copy of Brian May's Red Special, going so far as to get Brian May to pose with one, and then brag that he officially endorsed it. In reality, he had nothing good to say about the instrument, noting that it felt cheap, sounded awful, and that he wanted nothing to do with the company.
Oh it’s not just Gibsons that Ibanez copied. My husband has one of their early 70s ric bass copies and it is sublime!
I own a Takamine Martin copy acoustic that was handed down to me when I was 5 and I still own it to this day.
John Mayer fell out with Fender, and went to Paul Reed Smith, renowned for his original instruments, to do a signature Strat copy. I was never outraged at this, merely amused. I think that's what the reaction really was.
I dig these videos. It's like a tiny documentary. Keep it spicy fresh, Samurai Guitarist.
reppin the teddy fresh merch i see
My man shops at zumiez
@@jamancruzel419 Or is just a fan of H3H3, they sell em online I think
Sammy g with the drip
The only thing controversial about the modern V is the price. It totally looks like something Billy Gibbons would play if it were red.
You could do a Gibson only version of this. BTW, I just picked up a 2009 Gibson with the first generation Robot Tuner (pre-G-force, pre-MinEtune) and despite all the hate, I find it to be a great playing, great sounding guitar. I've had no issue with the tuners other than having to charge the batteries once a week, and it is easy to tune by hand. The neck is much thicker than I am used to, but I quickly got over it. I consider it $600 well spent.
"If someone wants to play a Strat, they should stick to the company that perfected it in the first place." You mean G&L? 😁
G&L is probably the only company with a "strat knock off" that isn't considered cheap doing it, seeing as the inventors of the strat were heavily involved in the creation of G&L, and US G&L guitars are made in the original Fender factory
“Perfected”
I thought he meant suhr
I have no idea what that Gibson Star Trek got so much stick. I think it would really look great in a glam rock band or similar.
I also thought it looked ridiculous at first glance but I kinda got used to it. Especially the one with the Dark Glitter looks great. The Problem is that they're way too pricey even for Gibson.
It looks like it could be a really great guitar, but that price is just ridiculous.
Yeah, at first I hated it but now I kinda like it
Chris Franklyn I can also definitely think of a few bands that use heavy theming in live shows where that guitar would’ve fit in great (e.g., Netherlands, Man or Astro Man?). If the price wasn’t so high I think it could’ve definitely had some cult appeal
Yeah, totally agree about the price. A quarter of that would have mean a lot more suitable..
1:20 wise words, Chodegrinder
I kind of expected to see the Gibson Corvus on this list. That guitar (if I recall correctly) did not have a very long run because of its very unusual shape, and only certain guitar players (like Tim from Cursive and Mike from Drive-By Truckers), as well as its appearance in the first few Guitar Hero games were what gave it any exposure at all.
Not sure it's a "controversial" guitar, but my mind goes to the '61 Les Paul SG redesign, which Gibson had done without the dude knowing, and which Les Paul apparently hated so much he'd wanted his name removed from it
I heard a slightly different version of the story wherein Les Paul thought it was an OK guitar, but inferior to the original, and was primarily extremely angry that they had changed it without even consulting him. There are promotional photos of Les and Mary Ford both holding white SG style Les Pauls that you can find with Google. He supposedly promoted it for the couple years it was on the market in exchange for a promise to reintroduce the original, and consult him in the future regarding any further changes. (I think I got that version of the story from an old Les Paul interview, but I can't find it now ...)
Interesting! I'll definitely have to try find that interview
Lethonai One of those guitars was on pawn stars, it was brought in by les and Mary's nephew. It had correspondence between les and gibson, he wanted his name OFF that headstock! I think they gave him 75-80 large for it
I'm surprised Paramount didn't sue gibson for that flying v that looks like the Starfleet logo
Great vid! Keep up the good work, I love your channel!
The black Modern Flying V is badass. No sarcasm intended. If anyone out there is too embarrassed to own theirs please send to me.
1) the bolt on neck on the Ibanez means that its Korean and not Japanese play an Actual MIJ with a set neck and you'll notice a huge increase in quality in comparison to the cheap Korean models 2) that's a post lawsuit witch are also known to have lower quality standards [post 1983] due to american companies starting to have those factories make cheap quality guitars for them like the early Squires
I recall reading an interview with Yngwie Malmsteen - "So Gibson came to me and said 'we want to make you custom signature model... anything you want', so I said build me a strat", so somewhere there is at least one Gibson Stratocaster...
ESP and Jackson made some different Flying V style guitars with the George Lynch signature and the Randy roads Roswell. They weren’t super popular, but they were pretty similar to the Gibson modern v. That aluminum Roswell is going for just shy of $10k if you can find it.
That Gibson modern V Looks like the Jackson Rhandy Rhoads Modern from the early 90s!
The Gibson Jimi Hendrix edition Stratocaster. Never actually made it to production because it got slated so much from the get go. Basically somebody at Gibson came up with the idea to do a Hendrix tribute Flying V, basically a nice USA made reissue of the one he had played. The idea was floated in the Gibson board room and came out the other side all mangled and they had decided that seeing as Hendrix was most known for playing a Strat that they were to make a Hendrix strat. Not only was the idea of a Gibson Strat horrible but they were to be cheap chinese beginner guitars that were supposed to come in a package with a Jimi Hendrix bandana and a little practice amp. The idea was abandoned after everyone reacted to the ad campaign and basically told them how terrible the idea was.
I like the headstock on the modern flying v, on a travel instrument
I love the modern flying v it looks so cool and I've wanted one since they came out
Back on the early 90s Tokai did some versions of Rickenbacker models which like the originals only had the logo on the truss rod cover. They also had F holes rather than slashes, like the then top money Beatles reissues Rickenbacker were doing. It was simple for people to swap the trussed cover and tailpiece and pass off a £300 guitar for a £1200 one.
A bolt on neck that is made with the same level of effort as a set neck will sustain better. Sustain from a neck joint comes primarily from how well that joint resists vibrations. If someone were to go through the effort of making the very best bolt on joint, the very best set joint, and the very best thru non-joint that they possibly could, the bolt on would by far have the best sustain. The reason set necks have the reputation for better sustain is thanks to 50s Gibson and 50s Fender having different goals in their guitar production. Gibson approached lutherie as a craft, mixing tradition with skill at scale. Not an art form where each instrument would have been painstakingly fawned over to perfection, but still a ton of pride was taken in the amount of care that was taken into making the instruments. Fender on the other hand approached lutherie as a platform for technology. What you got was innovation with a few cut corners for cost. It took a ton of convincing for Leo Fender to be convinced that the 1950 prototypes for the Fender Broadcaster (later renamed to the Telecaster) needed a truss rod. Fender even went to production with untrussed broadcasters in early 1951. It's part of why a Broadcaster in working AND original condition is such a rare thing. Why was this step skipped? $$ is why
Blast from the past! That Ibanez Les Paul was my first guitar. Mine was garbage even relative to Norlin era Gibsons, but quite inexpensive for the time. It was laminated from about a dozen pieces of what seemed like balsa wood, and therefore neck heavy. The pickups were unpotted and squealed like a Yuletide swine sacrifice. Today there are many far superior low-end guitars for dramatically lower prices (inflation adjusted).
Lesson learned from this video : Gibson are controversial.
_Very_ controversial. Gibson has become a very popular punching bag in the guitar community. I've seen people get torn to shreds on the internet simply for saying they _like_ their SG or Les Paul or whatever.
The modern v looks like the Jackson Rhoads if it was originally designed by Gibson instead of Jackson
Great video man! And I’m definitely gonna use your distrokid code.
The modern v is like the Roswell by Jackson (I think). I actually liked the old Roswell, I almost bought one a few years ago and have regretted not buying it ever since. It was for sale for about £200 in mint condition, it was the high end version with the inlays too. I just couldn't justify the spend but I didn't realise the market value at the time so I screwed up as it was worth many, many times the £200 asking price. Such is life.
Speaking of luck, back in the late 80s, a blues guitarist I knew picked up an original Vox teardrop in mint condition for £80 from a second hand shop. The guy in the shop said it was broken, he just didn't understand that electric guitars dont make any noise unless they are plugged in. What a score really. Can you imagine, £80 for an Original Vox teardrop, crazy!
I had the Black/Ivory binding "Lawsuit" Les Paul. Loved that guitar. Payed $100 for it and played it 16 years. It was manufactured in February, 1976. I also had the Iceman PS-10 Paul Stanley Signature Model. Got that in 82. It was made in December, 1981.
The Ibanez and Yamaha LPs from the 70s kick the shit out of Gibsons of almost any era.
You went a different direction with the topic of this video than I thought you would. I thought you were going to mention the very, very odd guitars that came out like the SynthAxe or the Gittler Guitar. The SynthAxe that Allan Holdsworth played had strings that were discontinuous and frets that were all the same distance apart. The Gittler Guitar you'd have to see to believe. It looks more like modern art than a guitar. The Chapman Stick is another interesting one.
A friend of mine had one of the Ibanez LP copies. Lovely instrument for someone who couldn't remotely afford a Gibson.
The modern V looks like a Star Trek fans version of the Jackson Randy Rhoads V. Personally I like it. It's got a really good retro-50's sci-fi vibe.
as a Star Trek and a Randy Rhoads fan I agree, its perfect other than the cost
Lawsuit guitars were also made by Hondo and Aria, to name two. Most of the time from 1974-1980 Japanese guitars were better quality than actual Gibsons.
Greetings from Peru! I love ya Samurai!
I really like your channel. I was thinking you could do a bit on guitars that were lost and found. Like Peter Frampton’s Les Paul that was reclaimed or found after the crash. Just a thought.
Bolt on necks affect sustain? I've got an 86 low end strat copy thats got a bolt on and the thing will sustain a note for a solid 45 secs
0:39 why is there a link in the subtitles
The bolt on copies are not lawsuit guitars. Greco, Burny, Tokai, Ibanez, and many other subsidiary companies in Japan built fine quality set neck reproductions of Les Paul's that adhered to the same construction and materials as a genuine Gibson Les Paul. I have a 1979 Cortez Les Paul that has a set neck but a tombstone headstock. Its construction differs from a single copy of a Gibson to that of a few Les Paul variations including features from Standard models and Custom models combined into one instrument (for instance: block inlays on a rosewood fretboard).
Well, Ibanez LP's can be sick. There are models with set necks and decent pickups. I've tried a couple of them before and they were pretty nice.
I bought my Ibanez LP Custom in 1973 for $299 ( actually I only paid about $100 because I traded in an Epiphone EA-250.) I worked in a music store and played it next to a new Gibson LP that went for $850 then. The Ibanez actually sounded better. I still have it. It's in mint condition but I don't care for the pick ups anymore. I've been offered $1200 for it, but I'll keep it.
The first PRS guitar seen at a gig was in the hands of Nik Kershaw. Paul handmade the guitar himself for NiK back when he was starting his company in the ‘80s
That hoodie looks like you murdered the wiggles and made a suit out of them....
This hoodie is BLAZING!
Personally I like the modern Flying V, if I had the income I’d buy the black one (I know it’s more purplish in person though)
A video on mythical guitars like the left handed strat clapton was going to give to hendrix but he passed away before he could give it to him. are there any other stories like this?
Regarding Ibanez guitars, I do have to admit that the Ibanez RGA from Teemu Mäntysääri is the best guitar I have ever got to play. I've got to play a 90's Gibson Les Paul and a 2018 Fender American stratocaster. ( I can not recall the exact series it was from. )
The modern Ibanez guitars are absolutely mindblowing if you ask me. Even my inexpensive Ibanez gio 7 string delivers quite well for its price!
I agree that it's best to stick to the company that perfected the strat in the first place. Of course, that is G&L.
Gibson price to quality ratio is why I'm a hardcore Epiphone fan. I own an LP standard from early 90's and an EJ 200 SCE, and I love them, possibly more than the Gibsons I've played in my life.
The main difference is the electronics.
To this day I had a Ibanez lawsuit era Lp that was the one that got away. Fortunately enough I had sold it to a friend of mine so I do still get to play it. Even with the bolt on neck the thing just ripped.
Lawsuit Martins. I have a 1974 Penco brand Martin knock off and it’s my favorite guitar. I think they were made in Japan in Ibanez facilities but sold out of Pennsylvania company “Penco”. If you ever see, one buy it.
I think, by the same token as the Modern V, you could have included the Firebird X. All the same problems, but even more pointed at as "this guitar symbolizes what's wrong with Gibson right now".
Cosby Show sweater FTW.
the folk festival trouble didn't end there. pete seeger actually took an axe and cut the cord to dylans amp.
On UA-cam when those modern V Gibson’s came out a guy bought one and the color he got (purplish) was not very close to the images on their website. Lots of problems at Gibson.
I've got an Ibanez lawsuit 335... wonderful instrument with the addition of locking tuners.
My first electric guitar is called quest attack 5 it's a bit of an odd shape painted and shaped to look like fire. I traded my old dirt bike for it. I then moved on to an Ibanez rg550 late 80's model . Each of these are considered strat style guitars . The only Gibson stats I've tried all sound muted compared to the ibanez so I'm not a fan unless it's got a customized humbucker in the bridge. My vintage 1964 Sears Silverstone harmony is way warmer if I'm look for vintage blues sound. To me I kinda like the prs guitars or a solar with the everytune bridge, for my next guitar
The Les paul by ibanez was a really good instrument in my opinion !
I don't get why the modern Flying V gets so much hate... 😂
It looks exactly like the Jackson Roswell Rhodes.
It looks cool not as cool as a Roswell Rhoads but still cool
Its over $4000. If Gibsons prices weren't so absurd I don't think they would get the hate they do.
I haven't played one myself, but according to a good friend who's played guitar for 38 years, it's a $4500 guitar that plays like a $750 Peavey.
Cuz it's ugly
2:06 tuning machines..a step down..I see what you did there
Have a gibson government series ll sg, probably on e of my favourites, sounds great and imo is very very confortable
That hoodie is controversial
But it’s teddy fresh
I like it.
Sammy g rocks anything
What about the most overlooked guitars?
I like that gibson modern flying V design very much) if somebody has it and don’t like, feel free to give it to me as a present LOL.
The Gibson Modern Flying "V" should have been cross-marketed with the Abramsverse Star Trek since it not only looked like a Trek communicator badge but also because they both had serious quality control issues.