I've Had ENOUGH of These Guys
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The art they admire often being made my closest queers is the funniest bit
where's the one where it's like "THIS IS WHAT MEN OF THE WEST FIGHT FOR" on some sculpture of a hot lady and then it turns out the sculptor was a Chinese woman
“Molan Labe”😤 **Greeks/Romans absolutely sucking and fucking their homies on the reg**
Sure, but how close can these queers really be?
@@hanagla5406 closer than you think. *dun dun duuuuun*
Why are the queers yours?
ethan flipping around a prostate vibrator like they’re an old fashioned cowthey is exactly what i needed today. “it’s ergonomic” ok billy the kid
I cackled so hard💀
😆
cowthey
definitely think Ethan's working on the butt-erfly knife flipping technique, too, which is utterly multifaceted commentary, imo.
not sure if want immediate marriage to them, or a Loki Wave.
_( i do not currently own a prostate )_
I do believe cowpoke is the word, but cowthey is wonderful
seen screenshots of these guys getting clowned on all the time. one of them had a tweet that was like, typical "look at this beautiful western sculpture we need to go back to people making sculptures" and guys were in the replies talking about how profoundly males (theyre word not mine) love protraying women and how women just dont compare because theres nothing stronger than males love for women!! and instantly someone let them know that the sculptor was in fact a chinese woman
That post was so iconic
Her name is Luo Li Rong and her sculptures are absolutely incredible
HAHHAHA!!!!
And I don,t get how hating on an entire gender all the time, and putting them down etc: is anything close to being seeing as being 'loving'.
Zero logic.
I question if those guys even like women more and more
@@randomtinypotatocriedevery day the needle shifts closer and closer to no
9:52 I like how, by declaring that "most people" want "women," this meme (unintentionally) makes it crystal clear whom the creator counts as "people"
I caught that too. A major yikes. Christian nationalism and heteronormative propaganda weren't yikes enough it seems.
exactly what came to my mind when i saw it
What a shock that Christian reactionaries are doing the same things that they've been doing for their entire history.
lesbians
Shit, I'm really embarrassed I didn't see that, I still probably have some bias to work through
Someone should explain to them that, in the case of architecture in particular, that they should really blame industrialism and capitalism. The issue isn't that people don't want to make beautiful buildings anymore, but the fact that it's just not very efficient or economically viable. Easier to build another cookie cutter condo complex at the end of the day.
tradfash bros: “i wish we could retvrn to the gilded age of art and architecture, when society valued aesthetics and beauty” 😢
also tradfash bros: vote conservative/republican, who consistently decimate already-meagre public funding for the arts, and burst into flames at the mere hint of a suggestion of taxing the rich.
like . . . where do these logically-bereft chuds think the funding for their neoclassical public libraries and victorian railway stations comes from? lmaoooo they want Baroque decadence on a Brutalist budget.
they think they’re sophisticated intellectuals, but they’re just elderly groypers who aged out of their Pepe profile pics and upgraded to avatars with more adult, chad-like vibes now that they’re pushing 40.
But that would require rightoids to acknowledge the baked in problems of capitalism instead of scapegoating minorities.
Sure bro, because right-wing must mean libertarian
Yes but also it seems like many architecture professors do actually love modern architecture than traditional ones. I do get why though. Modern architecture is functional even though it doesn't focus on beauty and like you said, it's easier and cheaper to build them. You don't want to spend days designing the details of a column or carvings in wood when you're likely not being paid that much extra for it. And it's not like most people can afford to pay extra to people who are skilled in making designs in wood or columns or stone either.
@@ijon-y4549Capitalist libertarians are, in fact, right-wing. I'm not sure what your problem is exactly
9:57 guy was just a google search away from being reminded the word electrifying exists 😭 really goes to show how 'intellectual' these dudes actually are
B r u h 💀 lmao
They also said it was a noun???
Nouns are people, places, or things
They missed that in 2nd grade apparently
They're reactionaries, pseudointellectualism is their forte
@@alyx8815 well that’s kind of leaving out a bunch of words that are nouns. A noun is kind of an idea that can stand on its own while adjectives are used to describe those ideas and so on so forth
(Don’t take this to heart tho I didn’t search a single thing up so very possible my definition is wrong or at the minimum somewhat faulty)
@@alyx8815 You really wanna lose braincells? Ask a regressive what their opinions on pronouns are. Then ask them what they think about nouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, conjunctions... and watch their brains slowly explode
Ethan using an adult toy like a fidget spinner is not something I knew I needed
"'Modernism is a form of degeneracy' is a dead giveaway for someone being a really fucking weird guy" just might be my favorite quote of the I've heard this month.
Anyone who uses the word "degenerate" or "degeneracy" to describe things is 95% a weird online Nazi. Just so people are aware.
You people are the nr1 reason why abortion and assisted suicide should be legal
*sculpture of two men grabbing each other*
Sculptor: they’re gay lovers :)
Guys on twitter: WAR! THEY HATE EACH OTHER! WAR!
Fun fact: the people who designed cathedrals were great at making building look great, and not so skilled at making those buildings structurally sound. Any of them that are still standing are doing so by sheer chance. Personally, I prefer my buildings not collapsed on top of me.
Soft modern people cannot survive a building collapsing on top of them, sad!
Also they fail to mention that those big impressive buildings were made by thousands of slaves or peasants that were paid basically nothing for their labour and often died on such building sites as health and safety wasn't a thing and they saw those working as disposable bodies to carry out their grand plan.
Also most of the 'great' artists were either rich already and had nothing to do but make art, or they were commissioned by like the government, the church or the monarch, or some aristocrat.
Also TBF some new buildings aren't great but not because the designers don't know better, but because they cut corners and go for cheap, non-durable materials. And also corruption, pocketing the funds for projects and getting the cheap stuff instead of structurally sound materials
@@mellonnuggets838 it also took literal generations
hi ! i mostly agree with all of the above but i do think that the working situations of the workers was a bit different from that of a slave or pesants. The level of skils required to be stone carver, glass maker and blaksmith causes the creation of a working class of itinerant craftsman, going from worksite to worksite. Some sources says they earn almost a third of the salary as an architect (witch is not good but surprisigly low for our representation of social inequalities in such anciant time). To conclude, i would like to emphasis the libert and cretivity of those workers: many detail were of their own merits and their dedication and association may be part of a sort of "working class pride " if we try to see something inspiring in those old stuff :)
It may not be pretty, but Fountain is clearly a very successful piece of art. It’s still the go-to of weirdos like this as an example of bad modern art. They’re still mad at it 100 years later. Stunning
Yeah, I find it to be a funny commentary on what qualifies as art. Did we need yet another lame portrait of some boring people or another realistic sculpture? I think not. Good artists should fight against the status quo.
yes, and if you go read the original thread the person running the account explains the context for it's existence, what Duchamp wanted to achieve with it and why it's controversial while uplifting Duchamp's act of rebellion
honestly i'm pretty disappointed in Ethan for including that account in this video as it shows he didn't do any research into it beyond seeing their clickbait tweets to kickstart the very educational thread
the account is actually good and very educational and not anti modern art
Fountain certainly did its job
A literal urinal is the apex of left-wing art
@@ijon-y4549 so true, the portrait of some guys fanart of himself as a woman is way better.
oh wait, that made it sound stupid. huh, its almost as if you can make anything sound vapid if you just word it a certain way. curious.
Just wanna point out that the Van Gogh point is beyond poignant but the Mona LIsa was also just another painting. People didn't care about it until some janitor stole it and it became a whole heist situation that drummed up a lot of easy publicity for the painting once it was returned
why have i not heard this i need a movie stat
For most of those renaissance guys, drawing and sculpting was the real shit and painting was the bill payer. Michelangelo didn't even want to do the ceiling at first, until he was ordered to do it. Imo painting really started popping off with Rembrandt and Caravaggio later on. Both the techniques and the actual material of the paint got better by then
@@MarcHendry I mean, religious paintings were their standard bill payers, but they were crucial as a way to show your ability and what you could accomplish in a time where the main crafts were deeply studied, and painting specifically was also transforming into something of its own, collectively. Even though what we know as a painting kind of took off around the renaissance, there were a lot of instances were very "modern" things happened, even earlier than the gothic period, although made by less mainstream names like Caravaggio and company decades and centuries later.
What I really meant to say is that art history is vast and rich. Sadly for a lot of people Da Vinci, Miguel Angelo and Rafael ARE the renaissance art, but it is so much more than than. Paintings and everything else.
Yeah I never got the hype over the Mona Lisa, but that makes sense. I saw it irl at the Louvre, and I was like, 'it's just some painting of some chick." Yeah, but no matter what angle you look at it, she's looking right at you! Lol wut? That's literally true of every portrait of a face in history. Whatever.
I still find it hilarious Mona Lisa's missing eyebrows were due to poor restoration efforts
as someone studying art who is also very political, watching people turn movements/eras into their weird political ideologies is both hilarious and also so aggravating. like, what if i love my city's gothic skyscraper (which is actually the one the account posted lmao), but i also love brutalist "doomer" architecture? sometimes an opinion on art can just be "i think it looks cool" and that's totally fine.
also these people are always hilariously wrong about how these movements. Van Gogh being classic fine art is the funniest joke ever. that man didn't have a successful art career, and if he was before Monet's time his art would have been hated so much. what about really classical looking art, like Rembrandt? literally had his career shattered and went broke because he painted a client in realistic lighting. and the contemporary examples these accounts show are never even accurate depictions of what contemporary art is actually like (we wouldn't even have a finalized representation of the era yet because WE ARE IN THE ERA RIGHT NOW).
They always lump Italian renaissance and baroque marble sculpture with ancient Roman or Greek sculpture lmao. They form a whole ideology around something they barely understand
@@Purplesquigglystripe This is the one that always gets me.
@@Purplesquigglystripe YES! they literally lump centuries of art within the same context, without any regard to the actual sociopolitical contexts in each era (...because they're all wildly varied through completely different generations AND countries, when said countries did not have instant communication/'globalisation' with each other).
Wouldn't it be more 'anti-modernist' to deeply study with an Art History class, rather than guessing on twitter?
As someone studying architecture rn and is also getting more and more political what seems like every day, this comment resonates with me.
Also, I kinda feel like the lack of art/architecture literacy is what makes people shun modern art and architecture. I might be wrong but as someone who once considered me liking modern art/architecture more as an exception than a rule but likes them now for one reason or another, I feel like my experience would be echoed by many more. Yes, traditional art and architecture look absolutely beautiful but if you look at the history and the context of why a art/architecture style or movement started, you begin to love or at least, appreciate modern art/architecture too imo. Also afaik, almost every one of them was a reaction against a previously loved style of art/architecture so you know, there were people then that clearly didn't like art/architecture that we now consider to be greatest things ever produced by mankind.
in the end, while I understand why people like traditional art/architecture and hate modern art/architecture and would not consider them to have fascistic ideologies by just that one aspect, saying something like modern art/architecture = degeneracy is just so weird and _that_ part makes me wonder if they actually do have fascistic ideologies.
watching ethan sling a vibrator around like a wild west sheriff slings their gun is so fucking funny
“A 23-year old sculpted this.” Because they didn’t spend 12 years in school and another 4 in college. And they were gonna die in 10 years so they had to get a move on! 23 was middle-aged back then!
Anyway, I appreciate that you identify these people as “weird guys” and then break down exactly why they’re weird and I’m just like, “Yeah, that IS fucking weird…”
Yeah, because everyone died at 30 years old in the past...
life expectancy numbers were way lower back then due to high infant and child mortality rates. people still lived into their 60s and 70s
More than 4 kids?
My friends mom has 8 and is still going.
She said she’d have kids until she got a girl.
I don’t know if it’s really impressive or really scary.
boy do i have bad news for her
@@elvingearmasterirma7241she’s gonna get a trans girl before a cis one
@@jsjdnshsnsngjdjdjshs Statistically likely tbh
Like if you have 8 kids and all are boys. Just stop
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 wdym statistically? the chances still are always about 50/50, no? it's kinda like the gambler's fallacy
@@ica5115 Its less fifty fifty in this case because they already have 8 children and want more.
Also the sx of the baby tends to be effected by the father and stress levels.
Hey maybe if she gets stressed enough she will end up having a daughter!
I fucking loved this video. I only see the content of this channel improving and engaging with deeper and relevant / easily accessible concepts to connect to larger audiences. I am so thankful for ethan radicalizing me and paving the same path for future viewers. How fitting that this video is the first with me listed as a patron. I am beyond proud to support and exist in a space as positively impactful as this. Ethan, you changed my life forever. I love you and will support you until my last breath. (sorry for long comment, don’t bully :/ pls)
God damn white liberals make me wanna die
Well I was gonna bully you for being conservative, but now that you asked nicely I can’t
10/10 🤌 the best comment I’ve seen by far
Talking about deeper concepts doesn't make Ethan less of a retard
The only thing these people need are certificates that say "dumbest shit I've ever heard".
Also, Ethan begging for me to watch a video is adorable. I've already seen all of them.
we would all end up getting one at some point in our life ahah
These are the people who think reading the Horus Heresy makes them an intellectual, because now they can make references to ancient mythologies they don't really understand.
To add on to everything else, the works of art these accounts praise are what happens when you treat "artist" like the actual, respectable profession it is instead of pretending art is just a hobby people can occasionally make a few bucks off of.
The majority of the artists who made those works weren't making art in their spare time between the two jobs they had to work to make rent, they had housing and other expenses paid for by their patrons, who also usually paid them in advance for their works, and sometimes had a little something going on on the side with those same patrons, if you catch my meaning. If you didn't catch my meaning, I meant they were having sex.
tl;dr: If they really wanted "great art" again, they'd be supporting artists, not fascists.
I really thought your tldr was going to say that we needed to start fucking artists again if we wanted that quality of work
THIS. I'd love to be a writer, but I could never make a living out of this unless I am wildly successful, ergo...
@@theworstdadjoke6518 Lol same
I admire the art and architecture of these time periods but the fact that I’d probably be stoned in the middle of the village really affects the vibe of those centuries
they had good weed back then for sure
@@theawsomegodsause yeah that’s what I’m saying
@@theawsomegodsause I'd probably be stoned while being stoned
That depends entirely on what time period.
LMAO, w comment thread
So many people who want renasiance art but none of them are willing to put the work into artist husbandry
Well, yeah. It's easier to just blame minorities for the consequences of capitalism, so that's what they do.
Ethan, as an illustration major, I'm so glad you're addressing the history of modern art within your arguments. We've been learning about modern art and modern illustration and their impact on the world politically, culturally, and socially, along with the movements and time periods they belonged to.
Seeing you address the context of the impressionists, the struggles of those who followed Impressionism against Traditionalist and Realist art and culture, all while delivering your great jokes and insightful commentary makes me even more happy to be a subscriber to you.
These guys are weird as hell and in retaliation, us artists will continue getting weirder in our works, pushing the boundaries and understanding of what art can truly be as a genre and medium.
Literally thank god. Guys like this will go on about what "real" art is but then shit on anyone who goes to school for anything art related. They'll ignore all history which shows us that men like them have always existed and tried to uphold a standard of what art is, usually classical stuff made by white men.
To say I live for your sweet "hi" before you immediately go ham into the topic of each video would simply be an understatement.
Reminds me of that alt right freak who cut up the 'Who's afraid of Red, Yellow and Blue' painting because he had such a hate boner for modern art (although the fact that the guy who painted it was Jewish was likely also a big contributor to why it was targeted).
I'm almost sad that the gallery tried to restore the painting. I think they should have left it as-is and simply renamed it to 'Now we know who's afraid of Red, Yellow and Blue'.
Did you also watch the Jacob Geller video about that? That video and his channel is very good if you haven’t.
Art peice evolution
@isaac3489 Yeah that's the one! Jacob Geller is great imo, I always enjoy his video essays.
"What's keeping you from being an artist like [insert historical figure's name]?"
I'm not being handed money to just make art all day. Go ahead, hand me money, I'll spend the rest of my life writing prose, poetry, and music!
"What's stopping you from becoming an artist like [decrepit and very dead man]?" Oh I don't know, gestures broadly at the entire world. Why don't you become a philosopher like Diogenes if you are going to jack off in public like that?
I love that Ethan takes sponsors like the one he took in this video. I feel like a lot of other creators would be weirded out, but Ethan is sex positive enough and open enough that he spreads messages about things others wouldn’t. Sorry Ethan I’m high af rn but thank you
just what i was thinking!
Noah samsen ripped a couple of sextoys like beyblades as one comment said in his recent vid
same
Great vid, as someone with an education in fine art and art history these sort of accounts piss me off with how much nuance and context they are ignorant to. Could write a whole essay about how dumb those guys are but I'll digress lol, thanks for your content and insight!
homophobic but idolizing ancient greece and rome.....who's gonna tell these people....
Nah write the essay. Its due tuesday after next.
@@myuziksohl Right? I want that essay too.
See, I didn’t understand modern Art either even while taking an art history class, I just kind of cherry picked what I liked and what I didn’t like. But there were a lot of wonderful UA-camrs on here that helped show that everything is part of a process on how art, evolves, constant cycles. I have an appreciation for some modern art now, but I just still prefer certain nations of time periods. Mostly just because it works for my visual aesthetic.
It drives me nuts too, as a fan of old master artists and all that. But basically if they actually cared about the art at all, they would know that there are quite a few extremely good artists working today who can do those niches. It's not really about the art
to anyone that knows someone who thinks modern art is "lazy" or "dumb", i implore you to show them "untitled" (portrait of ross in LA). it is a pile of candy in the corner of a room, which looks meaningless. but when you learn the backstory behind it, it is one of the most beautiful, heartbreaking pieces out there.
happy valentines to all my kings, queens, and those in betweens
Happy valentines day to all whether your loving youself alone or w another
and for my fellow aroace people: happy day of chocolate being put on sale tomorrow!!!!!
I love loving myself alone. Touchy touchy time tonight.
@@saspitite YEAHHH, A WIN FOR THE AROACES! And anyone on their periods, chocolate helps that too!
texted the girl I like bc valentine's day and she told me about the date she went on with someone else :')
@@rosies4713 stay strong, soldier 💪
I’m not even gonna lie. The people who made these statues are insanely talented and artistic and incredible people. Overall, however, they also had a lot of time on their hands just like a lot of other people that came before us and these also weren’t made in like a couple days this took years like Jesus Christ people.
Also love this video sm!
this is what most people complain about modern art not some "fascist" thing, it just doesn't have passion and love involved, having a phd doesn't make no one a better artist, these guys like DaVinci, Michelangelo all took years, maybe decades to master their craft, and also modern "artists" also have all time of the world to improve their art but they simply don't, and why should they, they can sell a soulless painting that even a 6 year old can make by 5-10 million to rich people that think they "understand" art and are "deep thinkers", and all these legendary artists back then didn't had much cultures to get inspired from, they literally had to do everything from scrap, and now that we have internet and access to nearly all cultures of the world, you would be thinking art would only grow better than that, but that isn't the truth, and a masterpiece takes years to be made, ofcourse, perfection comes with time, making an art in 4 hours is simply impossible
and also sorry for some gramatic errors, i'm not a native english speaker
@@dorimeameno5514 Modern artists DO spend years and years honing their craft though. It just doesn't look the same as the traditional idea of that. It's closer to chemistry, spending YEARS formulating paints, learning the fundamentals, abstraction... most contemporary artists CAN and DO draw beautiful figures but find more power, meaning, and beauty in exploring the depths and power of the medium they use. Cartoonists spend DECADES developing a marketable style. It's not as easy as slapping paint down and shitting on it and selling it for a million dollars.
@@spibow I think most people's idea of modern art is the art that sells for tens or hundreds of thousands because money laundering and that's why they hate it. I'm sure lack of literacy about art and the fact that modern art that most of us see is just not as aesthetically beautiful and/or is just a bunch of shapes and colors also doesn't help modern art have a good impression on people. But that's just my hypothesis based on my own experience.
I had a tiktok come up on my fyp recently that I at first liked bc I thought it was being like “god, minimalism is so pale and lifeless. We need to encourage people to allow their homes and spaces to feel encouraging to life” bc it was showing like modern design photos that have basically no furniture or color next to houses filled with plants, color, and fancy handles and stuff. But there was something abt the caption that felt kinda off to me, so I went to the page and one of the top videos was talking abt nationalism and how it’s healthy and I was like “oh yikes, I completely ended up on the wrong side of tiktok”
It’s like you said abt how they fail to identify capitalism at the root of shitty housing. I saw that tiktok and thought it must be from the perspective of hating the kind of guilt capitalism forces on us for buying things and having “clutter”. But instead it was just some “return to tradition” asshole. Idk if there’s rlly a point to my comment, but it was just a weird moment that’s kinda related, and j wanted to share
That new background is the jam. It really is fitting. Probably should have left this comment on that video, but here we are. Great video as always.
ethan + leftist commentary + art history ???
:'~) this is so my niche it makes me so happy
what a vday gift-- thanks, you nut !
SAME!! The best gift ever❤
I was watching Mina Le's video about a similar topic and she mentioned something else interesting which is that most of the people who praise these Greek statues are doing so to subtly praise their whiteness (literally) when actually they were originally created with color and it was collectors and museums who painted them all white to look more uniform and less kitschy, but more recently those discovering and preserving these types of statues will now sometimes try to preserve the colors
Loving the style, subjects, and backgrounds of your videos lately Ethan, keep it up the good work!!!
@@limeyell0w945 what a stupid, useless thing to say. 🤷
Howdy I'm an art major and in my major we have to take 2 art history courses, which they ended up being my favorite and the urinal on its side at 5:00 was made by a guy named Marcel Duchamp, and his whole thing was about creating things called "ready made" where I'm sure you've seen the bicycle wheel on the stool, the urinal piece was sent into an art museum that all you had to do to get your art into it was just pay a 1$ and it could be featured which was unheard of because history had jury's for salons that would say if your art was or wasn't good enough to get into, the whole point that I'm trying to make is history is important to let everyone have a voice yada yada you get the idea, if anyone reads this and has any questions feel free to reply I love history and is something I'm very passionate about plus these guys are stupid and don't know nothing about art
Oh! I saw that tweet! It’s actually a nice thread about Marcel Duchamp! I think that Twitter account’s whole deal is that they bait people with reactionary questions and then dismantle them.
Ok but the single colored paintings are so deceptive and cool! They have textures that show themselves as you observe the canvas. It’s not just a single color its like a painting without the color spectrum and so freaking cool
My adhd is loving your changes of scenery throughout. Great content as always!
I just wanna tell Ethan that the quality of his videos is so fucking high, he's really standing out in the commentary community atm. you're killing it man
Me, an art history major, when Ethan talked about art and politics and made elegant points: based
Me when Ethan brought out the prostate viberator for ad time: SUPER BASED
A thought about modern art:
I've said similar things about modern art (it sucks, looks like an accident, etc etc) not because I hate *all* modern art or think that it's "not art" or lesser than other forms, but rather because of the elitism in the art world where any piece of art can be worth millions of dollars or found to be "profound" just bc it has a famous artist's name on it or bc fancy art ppl were told they were supposed to like it. A lot of modern art is apreciated not bc ppl actually like it, but bc they think that convincing themselve's that it's good means that they are more intellectual or whatever. It's gross elitism like that, that leads pieces of art that most ppl don't like to be propped up, so obv ppl are gonna make fun of "modern art", and unfortunately fascists are gonna use that as an opportunity to be like "SEE? THIS IS WHY WE NEED TRADITIONALISM". Whats ironic is that those fascists are also being very elitist about art, just in a different way.
Anyways, just wanted to point that out as someone who's both somewhat familiar with the snobby art ppl who love modern art, and also hates the fascist critique of modern art. I don't why ppl never bring this up when talking about fascist critiques of modern art, it seems relevant to me.
Loved Ethan's dissecting of this though, thourough and entertaining.
also on the flip side: there is modern art that has very deep meaning and is very cool, but it is never brought up by these "traditional" art accounts because then they'd have to admit that some modern art is good. it's like art from any period I guess, the ones that stand the test of time will probably be the best (or luckiest) artworks, the ones that aren't very good from other periods have faded into history so we can't see them.
completely agree on the children thing. I have 6 siblings and both my parents have full time jobs bc we need the money bc we are so many at home, but that also leads to neglect and they barely have time for us. when they do get home they are tired and annoyed and me and my older sister were practically raised by our grandparents and the two of us kinda have to take care of our younger siblings.
She left home like half a year ago and since I've been struggling with my mental health, my siblings are getting raised on the internet.
I do still try to look out for them, but since I came out as queer to my parents, they don't want me around my younger siblings as much.
i hope when they say make buildings cathedrals again they mean to make modern skyscrapers in the architectural style of cathedrals. I'd work in an office building with flying buttresses and stained glass windows.
this was such a great video!! i’ve been taking art history classes and my professor is always getting at what you talked about. you speak so well he would love you! + the background looks so pretty!
i really love old architecture, and like maybe we could replicate more stuff like that as well as more modern stuff, but taking it to a severe degree with systematic oppression and such is such a weird thing that these guys do
Aren't the NFTs that these same guys cream their jeans for considered modern art?
No such thing as "worth" posting. It's your work, your voice, your journey, document it as you-and only you- see fit.
When I started drawing, I took the habit of posting most everything i did, so that over time, any anxiety went away.
A lot of boundary pushing art is gonna be weird, and no one says you have to like it. Hell, I don’t like a lot of abstract art because I’ve seen many pieces which have had no effect on me by being too minimal. However, that doesn’t make it ‘not art’ it makes it ‘art I don’t like’.
I'm happy you made a video about this! I discovered that twitter acc a week ago and couldn't stop laughing at how dumb it is. People who think everything old and traditional = good and modern = bad reminds me of the stereotypical old ppl going "technology is rotting society!" without realizing, they rely on said technology in so many ways. Love this! Also, happy valentines day everyone
Thanks for explaining why all these weirdos obsessed with classical art/architecture and shit on modern art/architecture always have faccist vibes when you look at enough of their tweets
And no, just liking classical stuff is completely fine, just when stuff is in the context Ethan describes in the video it's pretty sus
they’re white supremacist grifters; once you recognise their dogwhistles and shibboleths, you can’t unsee them.
@@lastilnovista Exactly, it's impressive how many dogwhistles there are once you learn about them.
Jacob Geller's video Who's Afraid of Modern Art is another excellent look into how neo-fascists react to art in general, makes a lot of the same points!
These accounts are the embodiment of everything brian griffin from family guy is clowned on for
i ate a caterpillar
was it tasty
slurp
Delicious 😋
mean.
hungry hungry caterpillar has met its match. finally.
I’m both disgusted and horrified that big buildings exist. Be it an old-timey towering cathedral or a modern skyscraper, I find buildings taller than five stories utterly terrifying. Man-made structures should not be this big! They give me this sense of vertigo that make me feel incredibly tiny and helpless.
Love the video, just a quick correction, Van Gogh didn’t kill himself. He was shot by a kid on accident while he was painting, he decided to cover for the kid in order to not destroy his life. He truly was the omnichad anyone should aspire to be.
Source?? There were no witnesses when Van Gogh was shot.
Do you know where you read this? The only things I can find are how the murder story is a myth or that it is just a theory
theres a book, a biography from 2011 that introduced this theory "Van Gogh: The Life" i havent read it but i would love to. there's a couple articles from the bbc and one from the nyt that ive found relate to this as well. in 2020 someone identified the location of van gogh's (alleged) last painting "tree roots": a location just a short distance from where he was staying at the inn where he died. its speculated the lighting in tree roots is towards late afternoon near the time vincent was shot, also there's a letter from theo (vincent's brother) where he states vincent was working on a painting the morning of his death, with the same description of tree roots. so there's reasons to believe he was working on tree roots from the morning to the afternoon, working all day on this painting, and then so why would he go and decide to kill himself afterward, after a full day of working on a lovely painting on a sunny day in the middle of summer? its thought he was drinking with a couple of teenage boys after finishing work on the painting for the day. one of the boys would carry a malfunctioning gun that he never intended to fire. its said he was known to drink with the pair of teenage boys around the time of day vincent returned with the gun shot wound, and that vincent was taking the blame so the boys wouldnt get in trouble. also, the angle at which he was shot is speculated to not be self-inflicted (which should be more of a straight shot than angled up)
sorry thats so long lmao, i have alot of feelings about van gogh
@@alexandrahhh789 that is still a theory of speculation. i am not disagreeing with you, but i am saying there may not be a right/wrong theory! i too love van gogh, and that was interesting to read!
Naurrr its a premiere
The "Why did artists stop making art" post really gets to me. DuChamp's Fountain was commentary on why certain things that get designed and made are considered art and some aren't. Combine that with how it was absolutely panned as being heresy against art when it came out, only to be recognized as a valuable commodity once he was respected for his name (mostly after his death) rather than for it's critiques of the incestuous "high art" market and the comparison to the David statue, which was a commission, as being some sort of "true" art shows this guy's cards. I say this as someone who is not a huge fan of DuChamp and really appreciates the technical skill of Michelangelo since my own technical skill is lacking due to neurological issues.
Do they know that Leonardo DaVinci who made so much of the renaissance art and sculptures was gay? And had a boyfriend?
haha can't wait to think "ah yes when italians changed the way we see art forever"
its been done
its always this thatvi think abt with arts history
i love this new style of video so much, it's so enthralling
12:00 “A litter” KILLED ME
Ethan's tunnels are open. This is news to brighten my day.
''electrability'' got me fucked up 💀
"Electrability" sounds like a pokemon ability :/
I wanna give ethan a little smooch!!!! Not in a weird way, just to show him how much I love them!!!
I read the comments before the video and I was like wow I can’t wait to see how sex toys fit into this video. Turns out it’s crammed into an ad 😂
“my tunnels are Full and Intact” thanks ethan
I really liked the setting changes in this. It added a feeling of professionalism, it was refreshing and it really made the video flow nicely, keep it up!
Great to see you outside Ethan 🥹
outside simu liu’s house
this is like,,, the 3rd or 4th time you've spelled my name wrong in the end screen 😭its heatandclockwork not headandclockwork. LMAO at this
I'm studying art history and these accounts really make me want to quit the internet. The vast majority of famous artists were much more progressive than their sponsors were. Also, classic civilizations were far different than what they seem to think they were.
(sidenote, the urinal is actually a really interesting piece. The artist literally took a toilet, flipped it upside down, and signed his name before submitting it to a gallery. It was during the minimalist era of modern art and the artist wanted to find out how far the definition of art could be pushed.)
Those people are caught up in aesthetics and rhetoric.
I love the complex layers to history and stories of these artists. There’s so much you can appreciate. It’s weird how fascists latch onto things with their own agenda.
Trads care more about symbols than facts, because they're symbol-minded.
Always remember that everytime a Statue PFP cries about art like the “The Fountain” Duchamp gets another W and continues to laugh at them over 100 years after he first made the piece to mock this mentality
Damn Ethan, your videos have been so well produced lately
Actually, there has been bad art throughout time we just don't remember them and only remember the best pieces. And there's lots of masterpieces being made today. We haven't "lost" anything.
This video rips, I love this commentary style with video essay vibes. Really awesome stuff!
As someone who has studied urban architecture I love those "ugly" matchboxes. i feel a strange tenderness for them, they house the majority of a city, i love 1970s skyscrapers. I appreciate older architecture but i also love the modern in all its supposed utilitarian ugliness
Fair enough I personally hate it and it genuinely creeps me out but thats the point of any art the art only does so much its the viewer that feels the emotion and interprets it
how tf are artists supposed to have time to sculpt shit like this if we're all working like 15 jobs
Most of the art forms or periods that are valued by fascist coincide with different periods of "rational" thinking. Taking some of the talking points that philosophers made before the French revolution that drove the neoclassical movement, not that people that were fucking starving also read Rousseau but the political figures that took credit did, and misinterpreting them as Christian ethics and neo-nazy tales of manly greatness. Also, some of the art that is acclaimed at museums today is just a clever way of money laundering and to bring into the mainstream some ideas that seem progressive but reductive enough not to cause any revolt or change in the paradigm.
Love the video! Besitos desde Argentina ♥
5:05 I love that it says "what uneducated peasants built during dark ages" and on the bottom left is the Hungarian Parliament built between 1885-1904 and the architect was Imre Steindl, teacher at the Budapest Technical University from 1869.
And on the left top there is the Florence Cathedral, which, yes, they started at 1296, but those white building parts are a modern façade built in the 19th century designed by Emilio De Fabris.
(The top right is the Dr Chau Chak Wing Building of the University of Technology Sydney (2012)
Bottom right is the Robarts Library (1973) in Toronto)
The topic of modern art and modern fascism is so interesting to me, especially as a queer artist. I personally think it's one of the best gages for a person's views (looking at you Concept Art instructor that docked me marks for "not using enough red to symbolize fear" + my more cartoony style)
Jacob Geller has another great video on this topic and it's one of my favourites to discuss (Who's Afraid of Modern Art)
That Jacob Geller vid and the Philosophy Tube vid on 'Is Art Meaningless' really turned me around on modern art, honestly - I used to be in the 'a five year old could do that' camp, and now I actively seek out Rothko exhibitions to experience them for myself - not gotten to see one yet because the local Tate is being stingy, but I'm keeping an eye out. There's still a lot of modern art I don't vibe with, but my mind's definitely more open to it
hey bro you doing alright? you look a lil rough in this video, hopefully everything's going alright but if not I hope things get better 🖤 me and my partner always save your new uploads to watch together, your work has value 🖤
Love to everyone from the premiere live chat!
EHTAN WELL DONE FOR HITTING 200K MEAUW I LOVE YOU
I was listening to videos during naps and Hearing the ad woke me out of my slumber xD
I know it's not about this, but do these lads know they can prefer a certain style over another without putting the other down? I also prefer the aesthetic of gothic cathedrals to some modern buildings, but both are valid and I'm not gonna shit on modern architecture. :/
crazy artist rant incoming:
one of my main problems with these accounts is that i get them confused with other accounts that just genuinely post ye olden pretty art that they want to share with the world. i love admiring sculptures and architecture and its always so disappointing for me when i see their accounts :( also 5:00 that urinal was the start of the dadaism artistic movement, it in itself doesnt say anything but the story and people behind it give it a lot of value to art history and as someone who loves dadaism, its one of my favorite pieces. i highly recommend people looking up the meaning behind it, and also The Canvas has some great dadaism videos.
also sorry but 5:32 van gogh didnt kill himself, contrary to popular belief. this isnt some crazy conspiracy theory, its just that a 16yo that was bullying him who liked cowboys too much got pissed at him and shot him, he told everyone he did it to himself so he wouldnt ruin this 16yos life. if you look at the medical records, evidence, eye witness accounts from the family he lived with, half written letters, his extreme disgust for self harm, and a fuck ton of other things: there is no possible way he actually did it to himself. sorry for info dumping
please the ad has me on the floor gasping for air 😭😭
this was a great video! there’s been such a big improvement in the quality of your videos and i love to see it💪💪
Naur not a premiere :(
"what's your excuse"
i am not a sculptor.
I wasn't expecting Ethan to have such a firm understanding of art history
Not the premier, nooooooooo😢
First video i found of yours, liked and subscribed
14:25 Maurizio Cattelan (the man behind "comedian" AKA the banana man) actually doesn't hold any degrees which makes that post even funnier.
I love when people refuse to think, Cattelan literally told the galleries that display the bananas to replace them with normal bananas once they start to rot. Reading about his process is fascinating
Glad you're back. Love your content.
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“Elon Daddy, will you make this building for meeee? Pwetty pweezeeee?”
Wojak memes are the bane of humanity
i can really see your videos getting better and better each time!!!! love you ethan
Preserving fire? Uh oh. Someone didn't realize Dark Souls was a story about systemic cycles of violence and oppression.