Arthur's effortlessly charismatic stage entrace, the way he dances, shakes Murray's hand, kisses the woman, and waves at the crowd makes it feel like he was just so close to being an actual entertainer, if he'd only had a little better luck, his life would have gone entirely different.
More specifically, if those Wall Street yuppies didn't attack him, forcing Arthur to have no choice but to shoot them; that is when things started going downhill.
@@Madheim777 Yes, exactly. Arthur himself had a social anxiety, he was constantly under stress trying to keep his life together and not get bullied for his conditions. He is so effortlessly entertaining once he finally stops caring about his image and is literally ready to die.
It was the gun that freed him, and allowed him to reflect his views without fear of retribution. All in all he asks to be called joker cause he thought himself a joke, but he really wasn’t into it, he inspired the real Joker though, Jack Napier, that rescues him using the ambulance, and meets him in the alley afterwards. Notice how the real joker gravitates towards things he would later be known for: ambulances and alleys…
No cursing. No off-color material. ... He said nothing about everyday stuff like murder. ... Well, alright, I guess you could call blood the off-color. ... But he won't mind once he has seen the stunning performance and deadpan delivery. 😄🤡
Arthur's main intention was to kill himself in front of a live audience but that scene of him holding a cigarette and that menacing glare, that changed the path and it was Murray that he was going to turn the gun on. If Murray hadn't brought up that video again just to spite and make fun of him, he would have lived.
@Megan Todd Gary was a great friend. Randall is a jerk. The scene where he opened up the door and saw Randall, Arthur looked pissed and then he heard Gary's voice and he looked happy.
There’s something so eerie about the way he stares at the stage, stone faced, while they’re making fun of him at 2:03. He’s spent the entirety of the movie up until this point embarrassed by his inability to control the spectrum of his emotions. But I think it’s at this exact moment, that he decides he’s past the point of having his feelings hurt. He’s finally made the permanent ascension from sadness to rage. He’s no longer looking to please those who have ostracized him his entire life. He’s looking to punish them.
There's a line earlier in the movie, "I used to think that my life was a tragedy, but now I realize, it’s a comedy.", that illustrates that Joker's journey in the movie isn't from sadness to rage - it's from having the world tragically impose itself on him, to imposing himself comedically on the world.
Isnt this what a lot of us go through? Hurting ourself for others mistakes and then coming tk a point where we decide not to let our feelings be hurt. And in turn turning to rage to protect our self
the Joker’s dance right before the curtains went up can also be considered foreshadowing. Arthur danced in the subway restroom after killing the 3 guys that bullied him on the train.
Ten seconds of Joaquin Phoenix staring at the stage while smoking a cigarette is more compelling than Jared Leto’s entire performance in Suicide Squad.
I cant get over the body language. This is real life Joker I imagined him to be, he embodied it perfectly! I was a bit uncomfortable watching a real version of him when I was watching this in the theatre. Joaquin is genius! A master!!
@@billukhan2954They are both equally as good. The look that Director Todd Phillips had in mind of a Joker origin story about a man driven to madness after being shunned by society was nailed by Phoenix. Christopher Nolan wanted a more comic book based chaos agent Joker, who was there to break Gotham's spirit, pushing the Batman to his absolute limit as a hero, and this role was nailed by Ledger. They are both perfect actors for what their films intended them to be. There is no one that is better, because these are two completely different films. Even Phoenix himself bowed in respect to Ledger when he was receiving his awards.
the makeup room scene is Arthur talking to Murray, he's nice got that friendly vibe but the moment he's waiting for his introduction thats when The Joker enter
I still feel so bad for Joker every time I see this scene. Throughout the movie, he really looked up to Murray and admired him. Then he realized his idol just thought of him as a joke and wanted him on the show just to humiliate him. It's absolutely heartbreaking that he's backstage, behind the curtains, and still having to hear Murray, his guests, and the audience making fun of him and laughing at him before he goes on stage.
this guy need a psychiatric treatment, dude, and not pity, every balanced and adult person know that tv is just crap, and the people that work in tv is crap too, if an adult think that any famous tv worker is a great guy is clearly wrong, the joker was a absolute sick man, dude, is not something to feel bad or any other shit, the man was TERRIBLE SICK, nobody kill anyone just cos he is in anger with the other person, THAT IS SICK, balanced and healthy person can manage the frustration, the anger etc in a godd way, but this joker just was a fucking psycho
What hurts is that it was never meant to have a sequel. To be honest, I was against the idea of Joker 2 but even I couldn’t imagine it tanking this badly
@@circle1552Same, I'm really sad, but since I heard it will be a musical my first thought was "God is going to be a flop" but I had a tiny hope it could be good. Joaquin really is a risk taker and he went too far this time, even the first one was risky but you can see they made the first one with love, even the posters look amazing, the sequel didn't have that spark.
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 I'ts weird to see both sides, for Arthur it means everything and for Murray just doesn't feel even close to what Arthur was actually feeling .
U know he was hallucinating most of the movie right. That actually never happened. This movie isn't really good. It's just Scorceses Comedian with the joker inserted. It's not even an original story. Everyone hyped it up but I hated this movie to b honest
@@blackdynamite5016 It still shows the fact that a lot of famous people dont really care or remember their fans, so fuck off with those 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
MattRESScoolkid Super actually he revealed on a podcast with his sisters that that jimmy kimmel thing was just a skit but was amazed how much people hating jimmy for it even though they both talked about it beforehand. It was meant to be a joke but people thought jimmy was just straight up insulting him which Joaquin denies.
This is one scene that explains why the joker isn't afraid to die, he actually made the decision to end his life, but his hatred for society made him delay his suicide. Yes, the only thing holding back his decision to commit suicide is seeking revenge against society
2:04 is one of the best scenes in this entire movie. Stone-faced and silent, but inside he's fuming at being made fun of. How you can see the intense anger in his eyes. Perfect acting.
Yes, like no group of people ever included or accepted him into any kind of fellowship or cause, no body gave him anything so he stayed unburdened even from something he started.
@@avastyeescurvydogs well theres still optimistic nihilism where you still belief in your own worth and morals. arthur doesn't believe in anything anymore. only that his entire existence is a joke
@Liberal Who Likes Being Dominated And Shlt On ''take ur meds'' I don't need them, but I had to take them a couple of months ago every day for like 2 weeks 🗿👍
Love how the women says does he have sexual problems and he just walks out and makes out with her, basically making a mockery out of what she just said
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Joaquin is a very sensitive man, you could feel his emotions in his speech, that's one of the many reasons he's an incredible actor, he catalyze those emotions with his acting.
How tf did the sequel forget this pivotal scene? He didn't create "Joker" as a split personality, it's literally his own personality making an intentional statement against Murray.
Because is a personality born out of trauma to protect arthur from abuse once it becomes clear joker wont protect arthur from abuse arthur renounces the joker
The sequel even rebukes the idea and acts like Arthur only ever was Joker for the attention, that it's not who he really is. But here you see that's clearly not the case. It's for himself, it was always for himself. It's what gives him confidence and finally a sense of freedom and rebellion. He rejects the idea that it was a statement, a revolutionary cry. He thinks it's funny that people have rallied around him and he did what he did because it made him feel good. Joker 2 is a complete contradiction, it does not match.
@@JordanMgordan For some reason, they're trying to untie a knot they think they created... They didn't create a knot at all. That knot has been there since Donnie Darko, or even longer... They murdered a potentially lucrative franchise to try and undo some perceived slight against the world. Literally everyone but the media saw it as just a great movie. The media saw it as "rise of the incels" or some crazy crap, and Joker 2 feels like they're trying to say "Just kidding!"
No that’s not when Murray died because after that scene Joker continuous to practise his bit where he would commit suicide in front of the audience for the laughs. Murray died in the 2:00, because he invited him on the show, and he still humiliated him
Robert De Niro doesn't get enough attention for his role as Murray. he perfectly portrayed the typical guy who acts and seems like a nice, cunning, and soft dude, but in reality gets away with stuff like mocking and making fun of his guests, kind of like Ellen Degeneres.
Murray is the opposite of Ellen Degeneres. He's nice backstage, but his stage character is to mock other people for entertainment. Ellen seems nice on stage, but she's apparently a prick backstage.
@@skinnybballer that’s definitely Fallon and Kimmel then. Their extremely passive aggressive, don’t think before they speak to a guest, come off as really fake and condescending, but during the quarantine when we got to see them in a much realer format they honestly weren’t that bad.
from his point of view, arthur/joker is just dancing away to nothing but his clip playing in the background. This soundtrack is only heard by us. so i get whyy he's freaked out. plus he has no idea of the long list of experiencess that has ruined and destroyed arthurs sanity
3:25 I love that he kisses the old lady after she said "Does he have sexual problems?" just a minute prior in 2:00. Such a great way for the Joker to say "fuck you"
The movements Arthur does behind the curtain from 2:25 to 2:54 is like a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis. The Joker emerging from Arthur. Arthur is dead. Long live the Joker. This movie is utterly amazing !
100% agreed. I believe it was at this point Arthur fully transitioned into Joker. After that, we never see Arthur again, only the clown prince of crime
This scene was so heartbreaking The entire show all Arthur wanted was to make people laugh and be a good performer. Now finally he is relaxed, confident, happy and after he has let go of everything he is charming the audience, everybody loves him, and they go nuts when he does the spin, dance and kiss. even Murray is impressed. He now has everything he ever wanted but it is too late he is too far gone.
Yes, if you watch the work of Carl jung, he says that we have two main personalities, one that we show to the world and the other that we hide because society told us that it was a bad personality. This personality is often more violent, more sexual, more free etc... And Carl jung says that we should try to integrate some of that behavior into the personality that we show to the world. That is what the main character of fight club manage to do. But in joker, the hidden personality takes all the control.
i know a million other people have said something similar already but the shot of him smoking behind the scenes watching murray make fun of him is truly something special. it's like i'm literally looking at the joker and not some actor playing the joker. and with the context of what we've seen before, that shot alone says so many things without a line of dialogue, it's nothing short of genius. if todd philips can catch lightning a second time with the sequel to this masterpiece he will have my respect forever.
The moment he’s behind stage smoking and listening to the audience watching and laughing at his failure is truly a masterpiece. You can tell how hurt he is by his cold stare. It was then he saw Murray not as his hero, but an enemy that must be dealt with.
LMAO you need to watch more movies then. Thats always the problem with fans of hero/villain films. They get in a bubble and think any movie related to DC/marvel are the only ones worth watching. There are no risks taken in these movies, every plot advancement gets thrown up and then spoon-fed to you. Boring cinematography too. I finish every superhero movie wishing I would've watched my grass grown instead because it makes me feel just as mindless.
Interesting point, the director said that dance scene of him in the bathroom was a meditative way of coping & an escape. I still wonder if killing Murray was an impulse, or at what point he decided not to kill himself?
You can see the rage in Arthur's eyes when they played back that clip just to take the piss out of his condition. I can imagine how angry he was deep down inside to be laughed at for something he had no control over. All he ever wanted was to make people laugh only to get the opposite.
I think Murray making fun of Joker was the straw that broke the camel's back. Like that was his breaking point to do something like this. I feel bad for the guy.
Daryl Lander the clip is making a mockery out of Arthur. Playing it once was bad enough for him, but at that point Murray basically rubbed it in. It’s bullying essentially.
Yeah... of all of his laughs in the film, this one is the most unsettling 😅 All the other laughs seemed like a man breaking or trying to form his identity. This laugh is definitely the laugh of a serial killer who gets off on killing and unsettling people
Yes, you can almost think he hated himself for that. His disorder was like a life sentence he didn't asked for. He couldn't help it. I feel so bad for that poor guy
Koba1066 Lenk and It was for Arthur. His mind literally only had two solutions left to deal with it. 1:34 or manage to transform into a persona that could handle all the stress, abuse and problems. Please Welcome Joker
2:25 something about this scene is very heartbreaking. Hearing him say in the background so innocently to his mother that he wants to be a comedian. The music intensifying as he dances slowly, almost as if its telling you "this was an innocent kind gentle soul once, now it has no soul"
Joaquin's slow transition into the Joker is fucking perfect. It's so raw and real and by the time he has gone "mad" we as the audience fully understand how he got there. Both scary and beautiful
"What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash? YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE!!" Brilliant line because it sums up how joker became the joker.....ironically, explaining it with a joke.
@@duzted most actors say the same thing, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t take a toll on their bodies. Look at Christian Bale’s weight loss and gain and loss and gain over and over again.. in my opinion, it does have an affect
ive lost decades of my life even without killing myself mental health can take a huge toll on you especially if its goin on for years i feel like the joker. its like they made a movie of me
Man I remember for years people were saying no one would ever play a good Joker like the way Nicholson and Ledger did but well Phoenix brought us another stunning performance. Absolutely fantastic.
I think what is really not considered enough is what a great character they got to play. Going psycho in their very own way! Imagine Brando doing it. A young De niro would have done a pretty fair job as well. Not really sure why the actors get so much credit. Batman much harder to play. Just sayin!
There have been some truly brilliant takes on the character. I also think Cameron Monaghan deserves a shoutout for during TWO brilliant takes on the Joker character over on Gotham. Even if he never got to be called the Joker by name.
@@escapetherace1943 yes almost like let’s choose the actor you would most least likely choose and let him do whatever he wants. Just so glad joaquin phoenix was able to bring the focus back to the character.
“I’m just trying to make people laugh” The way he delivers the line is so good. He puts on a funny voice like a clown would but you can hear there’s a lump in his throat and he stumbles through the line.
I like to think he doesn’t decide to kill him until like 30 seconds before he does it. He was planning on shooting himself until then, that’s what it felt like
@@desipop3654 Your name says it all lol. haven't you realised that The prestige, Following, Insomnia, Inception, Interstellar and Memento are all character driven films but they also got great plots and cinematography aswell????? Also "Nolantards" is commonly used by people who don't understand what makes nolan films great. And Ledger is surely not just for teenagers, it's for everyone who understand deep characters.
2:02 is one of my favourite shots in cinema history. That’s Joker all over. Colourful background, the smokey chaos and the deadpan face of a seriously disturbed individual.
The thing people misunderstood about the movie, is that he is not descending into madness. He is getting out of it. As he goes forward, he has less delusions about an imaginary relationship, less uncontrollable laughter and more self confidence and control over himself. He is becoming normal, in a crazy world.
Yeah no lol 😂 the point of the movie is it's his narrative. The real events probably didn't go down like this, probably similar, but this is what he was seeing. It's literally a character study. I don't think anyone who would laugh about taking a life is normal 😂 . He's a living delusion, that's what makes him Batman's greatest foe. He's the hero of his own story. Him and Batman are both madmen , with opposing goals. Batman is exactly what you described. Everyone thinks he's strange, he just sees the world for what it is. Joker just be talking out his ass but sees the world as he perceives. Far from normal
@@keytrononit3 I did not say he became a good person, he is just starting to fit into what is normal in Gotham. Yea, in a more comic book style world it could work better. But as hard as it is, try to empathize with him a little. He was constantly victimized by everyone, and taken for a loon. He wanted to commit suicide in public, so maybe people would understand how miserable he feels. Instead, he kills someone, which means he finally started to express his hatred outward, not inward. Again, he did not became a good person, he just taken control, and did what he wanted, with no regrets.
I like how his initial intent was to off himself as punishment for all his problems but something twist in his mind and turn it against everybody else, as if a realization struck his mind, that the problem is not him is the city.
2:02 there came that realisation. That he would forever be a joke as Arthur fleck. It was time instead to make a mockery of the world and people and be born again as joker with that transformation dance
I know it seems really dark but i was hoping for him start going of at the people in the show to but it would have been probably to much to handle for a lot of people already hating on this masterpiece!
This scene makes me sad for a couple reasons. Arthur was soo anxious yet, still,, despite everything, excited to meet Murray, Sure Murray had already insulted him on live TV and therefore betrayed Arthur in Arthurs mind already but part of me feels like Arthur was still holding out the smallest bit of hope that Murray would be nice to him in person, but then he gets hit with "What's with the face?" At 00:16 ) You can in that moment see the heartbreak and disappointment in his eyes. I mean, damn.
The part where Arthur tells Murray to call him Joker and Murray not remembering actually hits me hard. Murray called Arthur a Joker and that stuck with him ever since. Worst part is, Murray didn't even remember. Arthur was literally planning to kill himself right in front of him. In reality, we say stuff to other people all the time but we don't know how the people we're talking to takes it. We may not have meant it or even remember, but the people we talk to take it really seriously which leads to depression, anxiety, etc. This shows how your choice of words can really impact a person with potentially dangerous consequences. These little comments and insults can really damage a person. I think we as a society need to think what we say before and/or whether how they'll take it. Just be more considerate and polite. Is that too much to ask?
@@Brian-gk1cd Hmmm Joker isn't a nickname in this case It is more of a transformation or more of a process of metamorphosis Arthur was sick of it and then In the scene right before the curtains are opening he twitches which is showing his metamorphosis into Joker. Also Nope just being nice will defo not fix anything in this world
Not yet IMO, he just feels embarrassing when the clip keeps showing and he really don't want to "laugh" because of his conditions, he tries to keep calm and prepare for the show.
lawlaw 91 Naw, I agree with the original comment. He definitely decided right then and there that he was gonna kill Murray. You can just see it on his face. He wasn’t calm at all in that moment, he was angry. When he went on stage, he just played along with everything for a little bit and then he unraveled.
o0Desimere0o not yet, he changed his mind during the interview, he realized he wasn’t being heard anymore and you can see through Joaquin’s amazing performance that he starts to lose control, and you can see the moment in his face when he decides to kill Murray, you can see his descent into complete madness as he loses complete control
@1:15. The way he said “That’s what you called me; a ‘joker’” there’s the slightest hint of resentment in his voice that Murray doesn’t pick up on because Arthur is smiling while he says it. Phoenix did a phenomenal job in this movie. Right up there with Heath in my opinion.
@Caspean Sea That's subjective as I think both Heath And Joaquin did a terrific job portraying this character but I still prefer Heath just slightly more.
@The Riddler No, Nicholson played the best comic book Joker, and Joaquin wasn't a modernized Joker he was more of a 80s Joker while Ledger and Leto are the modernized Joker.
This movie represents everything i like in cinema: Character development, emotions journey, good cinematography, amazing acting, a perfect color palette and original score. What a masterpiece, every superhero movie should be an exploration of the character as a person rather than an explotion of weapons and meaningless action scenes. Diving into human emotions is poetry and pure art, and this movie is all about that.
This this this. You said what I was thinking perfectly. This movie always brings me to tears, because it embodies everything I admire in film. This movie is so beautiful, will always be one of my favorites
@Hitler Loves Anime it’s a theory that goes as Murray might have MPD or multiple personality disorder. And the joker is one of his “personalities” it would explain why Arthur thought some things to be real (like with his “girlfriend”) when in reality it’s the complete opposite. Just a theory, but a pretty solid one at that
@@katatonikbliss yep, but also no. Different personalities, same body. But that’s just a theory. No full on evidence other then heresay and the way the movie was presented.
This movie hurts a lot 💔 Arthur character is innocent, miserable and deeply hurt which makes audience really sad and feel pain for him. Such people deserves lots of pure love and care❤️
2:35 what a scene. What a symbolisation of the state of Arthur's mind. He is almost lost in his own confused utopia that exists only and only in his mind- an absolutely beautiful catastrophic world. And the two technicians next to him have no idea and never can understand the chaotic mental state that exists within Arthur. He's a complete different entity, almost an idealistic artist believing in morals while existing in a modern 'civil' prison where people are blind to emotions and only see wealth and popularity.
People always say things like this. "Arthur's not a good person, and that's what makes him free. He's beautiful. It's everyone else who is ugly slaves"
2:03-2:18 The palpable, silent rage combined with sadness/disgust as he smokes while watching his idol make fun of him, is some elite acting by Joaquin Phoenix. Such a phenomenal actor.
I think that Joaquin is just perfect for a character like Joker.. because you can just sense from him as a person that he has some of his insecurities and vulnerability as well. The way he does interviews, how shy he is, how thoughtful and barely ever smilling or laughing. He always seems just kinda tense. He does not like to be in the public and he appears to be a very focused and dedicated person to acting. He also has a history of depression and dealing with loss since his brother died. I think that Joaquin is just one of those kinda tired or even broken individuals who are dealing with too much behind their eyes from day to day basis. Which makes him ideal adept for a character like Joker.
The poetically disturbing aspect of joker that I love, is the fact that he was a terrible comedian as Arthur (Or whatever alias you perfer) but only because he lacked confidence. The joker persona unleashed his inner potential to be a great comedian, but his jokes are now sadistic and crude. It was like Joker is his true self, and without fear he expresses himself truly and therefore convincingly, although barbaric.
"is the fact that he was a terrible comedian as Arthur (Or whatever alias you perfer) but only because he lacked confidence." Please, comedy isn't about confidence. A bad comedian with huge confidence *is still a bad comedian* . Fact is people tend to find those "I'm-obviously-the-funniest-comedian-ever" types who are full of themselves to be downright annoying. "The joker persona unleashed his inner potential to be a great comedian" More nonsense. HOW? Some people aren't funny and don't have any potential. In the film it's repeatedly shown that Joker/Arthur Fleck doesn't understand what parts are punchlines and what parts are just observations leading up to the joke. Confidence isn't his issue (and most people talking about confidence being the solution to all problems are usually *narrowminded simpletons and idiots* ) his issue is that his mind is damaged beyond repair due to being subjected to some incredibly cruel treatment by his mother and her lovers. He wants to laugh and be funny because his life has always been about pain, but the bottom line is that he simply doesn't understand what people (in general) consider funny. He even admits late in the movie that his own humor isn't like other people's humor but humor shouldn't be the same for everyone. "but his jokes are now sadistic and crude." Then it's not humor to anybody but himself. Which *drumroll* ... *makes him disturbed* . "It was like Joker is his true self, and without fear he expresses himself truly and therefore convincingly" And here your ship sinks below the surface. What is this utter nonsense about him feeling FEAR for comedy? He frickin' laughed whenever he was suffering or actually crying. He made odd observations of what people "consider funny" at stand up comedy shows. People all showed him angry, annoyed, upset or indifferent faces. He hated that and wanted to see them smile and laugh. There was no fear in him for pulling his clumsy jokes. He wrongly believed he was funny when most people were just put off by him. Worse many were cruel and took advantage of his damaged personality when they should have provided support or help to him. "although barbaric." Your entire comment is barbaric. What are your qualifications if I may ask? It's very clear you have zero understanding of people, the human psyche and just superimpose your own fears and myopic narrative onto anything. My guess is some chimp told you could achieve anything with confidence and you believed him. Hence this is your bizarre interpretation of the movie. Your deduction leaves a lot to be desired. You're claiming that a disturbed man who had suffered all his life had "potential" to be a great comedian but failed because he lacked confidence (these are *your words* ) but then when he snapped and became homicidal and spread fear he suddenly had the "confidence" (which is an observation an alien from another world would make) to be funny - except now this is just crazy murders (and obviously not funny to anybody but him). Priceless! Please tell me you're just a kid playing games all day long. If so you have an excuse.
@@McLarenMercedes the fuck is your problem hahaha. Bad day or something? Go outside and touch some grass then. It's only a movie and you are writing to him in a very passive-aggresive way, almost wanting to insult him because of what? His interpretation of a fictional character? Therefore: Your entire comment is barbaric. Please tell me you're just a simple minded maggot who has issues. If so you have an excuse.
@@McLarenMercedes Did you really just made a 4-page long rant about someone else's interpretation? As much as I can get your point, the useless sarcasm and name-calling is making it feel like you had a very bad day while writing it.
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I like the part when he just stands there with a cigarette in his fingers and just stares
Sends shivers down my spines
Lordius T idk if it’s the blue hue in the background or Joaquin’s look, but that shot of him just staring was quite chilling
*spines*
It's in a league of it's own, perfection!
It’s a mix of the acting and the production people in charge of the lighting. Absolute stellar job from basically everyone working on this movie
Extra the haunting cello which plays in the background adds to the scene perfectly
“Couple of rules though. No cursing, no off colour material, no shooting the host in the head.”
🤣🤣🤣
.... no off colour material, I want a clean show.
Joker: I thought you said I want a clean shot.
Thanks Murray
Joker:I STARTED BLASTING
A hahaha
In Joker's defence, Murray dont put a rule about shooting him in the head..
Yah true
Well, the fact that it really sound like a joke is weird and same time funny
True
True true
he still broke the rule about cursing though
Arthur's effortlessly charismatic stage entrace, the way he dances, shakes Murray's hand, kisses the woman, and waves at the crowd makes it feel like he was just so close to being an actual entertainer, if he'd only had a little better luck, his life would have gone entirely different.
More specifically, if those Wall Street yuppies didn't attack him, forcing Arthur to have no choice but to shoot them; that is when things started going downhill.
The thing is that Arthur being that relaxed was mostly his Joker's personality.
@@Madheim777 Yes, exactly. Arthur himself had a social anxiety, he was constantly under stress trying to keep his life together and not get bullied for his conditions. He is so effortlessly entertaining once he finally stops caring about his image and is literally ready to die.
It was the gun that freed him, and allowed him to reflect his views without fear of retribution.
All in all he asks to be called joker cause he thought himself a joke, but he really wasn’t into it, he inspired the real Joker though, Jack Napier, that rescues him using the ambulance, and meets him in the alley afterwards.
Notice how the real joker gravitates towards things he would later be known for: ambulances and alleys…
Pretty much the story of Charles Manson. I hadn’t even thought about that.
Murray: " we do a clean show..."
Jokers head: "a clean shot, got it."
This deserves more likes 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha love it
Excellent
Murray's* head
No cursing. No off-color material. ... He said nothing about everyday stuff like murder.
... Well, alright, I guess you could call blood the off-color. ... But he won't mind once he has seen the stunning performance and deadpan delivery.
😄🤡
"That's what you called me on the show. A _Joker_ ." The way he delivered that line. It was so perfectly passive-aggressive.
1:05
Yeah I didn't realise that till you mentioned it.Amazing honestly
I’ve noticed that too. You can feel his anger behind that sentence
This movie sucked
Quarantine And Chill
you must not dislike it as much as you claim to if you’re here
Arthur's main intention was to kill himself in front of a live audience but that scene of him holding a cigarette and that menacing glare, that changed the path and it was Murray that he was going to turn the gun on. If Murray hadn't brought up that video again just to spite and make fun of him, he would have lived.
Exactly
Yup
I was under the impression he was gonna kill Murray then himself.
I also see that as well And as he calls Murray awful look at jokers face Arthur was gone he was trying to contain hisself but it was done
@Megan Todd Gary was a great friend. Randall is a jerk. The scene where he opened up the door and saw Randall, Arthur looked pissed and then he heard Gary's voice and he looked happy.
I love how Murray lays down the rules only for Joker to disguard all of them.
The only sensible way to live in this world is without Rules.
@@Perpetual75 That's a perfectly good way to get arrested.
As the Joker would of course👏🏾
@@blahblahblah33333**disregard
@@Mediadossometimes, we forget that our societal norms and laws were set by normal people like us who don’t know what they are doing.
"Well that was quite an entrance!"
Just wait 'til he makes his exit, pal.
😂
Well, technically, he makes it Murray's exit.
@Obi Wan Kenobi its Gotham people are just as useless as the police, which is why people need batman-
This is a joke btw.
His exit is to die for
There is no exit. because he's dead and can't see.
There is no punchline.
He literally broke all of the rules that Murray gave him
Amir Agarwal broke them? More like annihilated them and gave them the middle finger
Yeah, that really blew Murray's mind
He made fun of him tho
Well he did "love" dr sally
That is the joker. No rules
“He looks like he has a lot of problems”
That’s when Murray died
Lans Taylor Arther Fleck:"Looks like you've chosen death."
Has he got sexual problems
AnarchistofYT00 2:30 he was loading up
@@Billy_Darley lol what did actor do to you
@@alienbob2522 he's 14 and he's trying his hardest to look edgy dont take him seriously
3:00 Confident, energetic, creepy and unpredictable. You'd swear this was the Joker himself pulled right out of the comic.
Exactly one of the reasons why I hate the second one
The Joker is also a criminal master mind....I could never see this joker pulling that off
There’s something so eerie about the way he stares at the stage, stone faced, while they’re making fun of him at 2:03. He’s spent the entirety of the movie up until this point embarrassed by his inability to control the spectrum of his emotions. But I think it’s at this exact moment, that he decides he’s past the point of having his feelings hurt. He’s finally made the permanent ascension from sadness to rage. He’s no longer looking to please those who have ostracized him his entire life. He’s looking to punish them.
There's a line earlier in the movie, "I used to think that my life was a tragedy, but now I realize, it’s a comedy.", that illustrates that Joker's journey in the movie isn't from sadness to rage - it's from having the world tragically impose itself on him, to imposing himself comedically on the world.
And the whole time his laughing condition never flared up once that dance was completely joker taking over
Isnt this what a lot of us go through? Hurting ourself for others mistakes and then coming tk a point where we decide not to let our feelings be hurt. And in turn turning to rage to protect our self
the Joker’s dance right before the curtains went up can also be considered foreshadowing. Arthur danced in the subway restroom after killing the 3 guys that bullied him on the train.
I would love to do the same
Ten seconds of Joaquin Phoenix staring at the stage while smoking a cigarette is more compelling than Jared Leto’s entire performance in Suicide Squad.
rockoperajon damn💀
... or when he walked into the elevator, turns, raises his brow slightly, small smile. Just perfect.
It's because of character development and great writing.....*looks intensely at suicide squad movie*
pfl mob
That cameo was still longer than the 10 seconds mentioned here.
blame the directors
"That's what you called me on the show: a Joker." Great acting! I could hear the anger in his voice
what a voice!!!!! I felt in love with this voice!!!!!
HNTR L And then he says "Do you remember?" he sounds menacing!
It was subtle, most of us can hear it.
Sometimes I would forget that he's acting
Notice how only one eye blinks out of frustration almost like twitching. Joaquin neeeds that Oscar now!
I cant get over the body language. This is real life Joker I imagined him to be, he embodied it perfectly! I was a bit uncomfortable watching a real version of him when I was watching this in the theatre. Joaquin is genius! A master!!
That’s amazing
Joker is a masterpiece of filmmaking
Way better than ledger
@@billukhan2954 joaquin is good, but you're out of your mind if you think he's better than ledger brother
@@billukhan2954They are both equally as good. The look that Director Todd Phillips had in mind of a Joker origin story about a man driven to madness after being shunned by society was nailed by Phoenix. Christopher Nolan wanted a more comic book based chaos agent Joker, who was there to break Gotham's spirit, pushing the Batman to his absolute limit as a hero, and this role was nailed by Ledger. They are both perfect actors for what their films intended them to be. There is no one that is better, because these are two completely different films. Even Phoenix himself bowed in respect to Ledger when he was receiving his awards.
Arthur: “You’re awful Murray.”
Murray: “You talkin’ to me?”
Rodolfo Cortez “Playing my video, inviting me on the show,....You just wanted to make fun of me. You're just like the rest of them!”
I don't see anyone else here. You talking to me?
Say hello to MY little friend
What? You just quoted the video what’s your comment??
ToxicSkull0 that quote is from Scareface.
That confidence and unpredictability when he walks on stage is pure Joker. Like it's not even Arthur anymore.
You see him transform in front of the curtain. There's even a trick of the light which makes his red/magenta suit look purple.
the makeup room scene is Arthur talking to Murray, he's nice got that friendly vibe but the moment he's waiting for his introduction thats when The Joker enter
He thought these were his last minutes - for he was about to kill himself -, so he wasn't stressed, like nothing matters anymore.
His transformation always starts from his left. See how he raises his left arm in the beginning of the dance. It's a transference that is happening.
That's because Arthur's no longer there, Joker is born to the world at that moment
I still feel so bad for Joker every time I see this scene. Throughout the movie, he really looked up to Murray and admired him. Then he realized his idol just thought of him as a joke and wanted him on the show just to humiliate him. It's absolutely heartbreaking that he's backstage, behind the curtains, and still having to hear Murray, his guests, and the audience making fun of him and laughing at him before he goes on stage.
I think Joker realized this when he left the dressing room to stand behind the curtain.
At first I thought people laughed cuz they loved it. But it’s the total opposite right?
Kamen Yake well Murray broadcasted Arthur’s video to make fun of him,so yeah, the opposite. (Or both)
this guy need a psychiatric treatment, dude, and not pity, every balanced and adult person know that tv is just crap, and the people that work in tv is crap too, if an adult think that any famous tv worker is a great guy is clearly wrong, the joker was a absolute sick man, dude, is not something to feel bad or any other shit, the man was TERRIBLE SICK, nobody kill anyone just cos he is in anger with the other person, THAT IS SICK, balanced and healthy person can manage the frustration, the anger etc in a godd way, but this joker just was a fucking psycho
@KARLA CUSTALS wow. Last paragraph, well said.
Happy they never made a sequel to this masterpiece
He got what he fucking deserved.
Exactly perfect the way it ended.
What hurts is that it was never meant to have a sequel. To be honest, I was against the idea of Joker 2 but even I couldn’t imagine it tanking this badly
@@circle1552Same, I'm really sad, but since I heard it will be a musical my first thought was "God is going to be a flop" but I had a tiny hope it could be good. Joaquin really is a risk taker and he went too far this time, even the first one was risky but you can see they made the first one with love, even the posters look amazing, the sequel didn't have that spark.
HAHAHA
That's what happens if you kick out the one true Great Zack Snyder.
Fun Fact: Zack has never experienced flop directing DC characters.
The fact that Murray doesn't remember that he called him Joker just sticks with me.
Indeed friendo. It really shows how no matter how much their fans may look up to them, some famous people just dont care or rember them.
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 I'ts weird to see both sides, for Arthur it means everything and for Murray just doesn't feel even close to what Arthur was actually feeling .
U know he was hallucinating most of the movie right. That actually never happened. This movie isn't really good. It's just Scorceses Comedian with the joker inserted. It's not even an original story. Everyone hyped it up but I hated this movie to b honest
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 He was hallucinating 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@blackdynamite5016 It still shows the fact that a lot of famous people dont really care or remember their fans, so fuck off with those 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
“I don’t believe in anything”
The little hints of him needing help he gives
I dont think you understand... some people do need help, they’re mentally ill. Its an illness.
@ I hope you don't know anyone with a mental illness.
0x apparently as much as you
Ruqayat Hime you need help
And his face when he said that..... Just brilliant! This man is an awesome actor!!
Imagine being invited to a talk show just to get insulted.
it happened to Joaquin phoenix in real life when he went on Jimmy Kimmel I thought he was gonna say "JIMMAY I GOT ONE LAST JOKE"
MattRESScoolkid Super actually he revealed on a podcast with his sisters that that jimmy kimmel thing was just a skit but was amazed how much people hating jimmy for it even though they both talked about it beforehand. It was meant to be a joke but people thought jimmy was just straight up insulting him which Joaquin denies.
@@BreezyBulldog omg 😂
You can say the Ellen show
HQ no seriously watch the podcast he did with his sisters it’s literally the first few things they talk about
"When you bring the sequel out, can you call it a joke?" - This line feels right.
Lmao 😂
Joaquin Phoenix: "When you give me the Oscar, can you introduce me as Joker?"
Hitman 😂🤣 great one !
I’d be scared af
Just be sure to check him for weapons beforehand.
Haven't heard that one six thousand times before.
@meaturama LMFAOO hahaha
This is one scene that explains why the joker isn't afraid to die,
he actually made the decision to end his life, but his hatred for society made him delay his suicide.
Yes, the only thing holding back his decision to commit suicide is seeking revenge against society
SOCIETY
SoCiEtY
We live in a
Relatable comment.
Not revenge. He wants to cause chaos because life is a joke.
Joaquin is a ridiculously talented actor.
Your line is kinda absurd but I agree.
One of the best...
@Stomie Haze You're fucking stupid
He put his heart and soul into this role. It was amazing.
This and Gladiator are his work of art
2:04 is one of the best scenes in this entire movie. Stone-faced and silent, but inside he's fuming at being made fun of. How you can see the intense anger in his eyes. Perfect acting.
The way he says "I don't believe in anything" so naturally sticks out to me. It just makes it really feel like he has nothing left to lose
Yes, like no group of people ever included or accepted him into any kind of fellowship or cause, no body gave him anything so he stayed unburdened even from something he started.
No, that’s nihilism
@@avastyeescurvydogs well theres still optimistic nihilism where you still belief in your own worth and morals. arthur doesn't believe in anything anymore. only that his entire existence is a joke
He says it so naturally cause it's Joaquin talking...💔
@Liberal Who Likes Being Dominated And Shlt On ''take ur meds'' I don't need them, but I had to take them a couple of months ago every day for like 2 weeks 🗿👍
His entrance is so great.
Well the music is catchy too
@@triplev5542 ikr
2:52 - 2:55 with a nice deep breath and relaxing his shoulders. Joker is here
I love when he dance. LOVE IT!!!
All movie is great.
Love how the women says does he have sexual problems and he just walks out and makes out with her, basically making a mockery out of what she just said
Damn, good one for Joker. :)
damnit i just caught that
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Joaquin improvised the kiss. The script says he hugged her.
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man A well deserved Oscar, he portrayed two different characters like Jekyll and Hyde.
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Joaquin is a very sensitive man, you could feel his emotions in his speech, that's one of the many reasons he's an incredible actor, he catalyze those emotions with his acting.
How tf did the sequel forget this pivotal scene? He didn't create "Joker" as a split personality, it's literally his own personality making an intentional statement against Murray.
That's the reason the sequel is not canon in my book
Because is a personality born out of trauma to protect arthur from abuse once it becomes clear joker wont protect arthur from abuse arthur renounces the joker
The sequel even rebukes the idea and acts like Arthur only ever was Joker for the attention, that it's not who he really is. But here you see that's clearly not the case. It's for himself, it was always for himself. It's what gives him confidence and finally a sense of freedom and rebellion. He rejects the idea that it was a statement, a revolutionary cry. He thinks it's funny that people have rallied around him and he did what he did because it made him feel good. Joker 2 is a complete contradiction, it does not match.
@@JordanMgordan For some reason, they're trying to untie a knot they think they created... They didn't create a knot at all. That knot has been there since Donnie Darko, or even longer... They murdered a potentially lucrative franchise to try and undo some perceived slight against the world. Literally everyone but the media saw it as just a great movie. The media saw it as "rise of the incels" or some crazy crap, and Joker 2 feels like they're trying to say "Just kidding!"
@@splitsseconds9965that’s just as lame as it was in the movie
Explaining it doesn’t make it any better
“That’s what you called me...a joker...d’ya remember?”
That’s when Murray died.
No that’s not when Murray died because after that scene Joker continuous to practise his bit where he would commit suicide in front of the audience for the laughs. Murray died in the 2:00, because he invited him on the show, and he still humiliated him
@@necron7436 I Think he does, but hes right.
Bunch of dumbasses
@@viewaskew7741 Lol sure
@@NateMegOfficial Glad you agree🙂
Robert De Niro doesn't get enough attention for his role as Murray. he perfectly portrayed the typical guy who acts and seems like a nice, cunning, and soft dude, but in reality gets away with stuff like mocking and making fun of his guests, kind of like Ellen Degeneres.
@P.B. *ellen degenerate
He reminds me more of Letterman, because he's kind of a prick.
Murray is the opposite of Ellen Degeneres. He's nice backstage, but his stage character is to mock other people for entertainment. Ellen seems nice on stage, but she's apparently a prick backstage.
That is Robert De Niro man
@@skinnybballer that’s definitely Fallon and Kimmel then. Their extremely passive aggressive, don’t think before they speak to a guest, come off as really fake and condescending, but during the quarantine when we got to see them in a much realer format they honestly weren’t that bad.
“We do a clean show” proceeds to shoot him during the show and blood splatters everywhere
Ddlala63 clean kill maybe .. 🤷♂️
But no cursing
@@astrol4b Then a curse word is one of the last words he ever hears
It became literally dirty
In fairness, he was planning on shooting himself and making himself messy before he decided to turn the gun elsewhere.
2:25 It's as if he's expressing his mental breakdown after hearing insulting words from a person he believed in
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
@@maanali4596Bro wtf does Palestine haves to do with Joker 💀💀💀
@@maanali4596
That makes no sense bro
That was a creative response from him I want to clip his slow insane recital backstage
@@maanali4596why, just why, I get the situation but why
The crew members on the backstage must be thinking: "Is this guy okay?"
Neat little detail, he drops the cigarette in his entrance and you see the production crew pick it up off the floor from behind the curtain @3:14
from his point of view, arthur/joker is just dancing away to nothing but his clip playing in the background. This soundtrack is only heard by us. so i get whyy he's freaked out. plus he has no idea of the long list of experiencess that has ruined and destroyed arthurs sanity
@@GiraffeFeatures good attention to detail by the team and imperious for noticing it
wanna like but it’s on 666
And the answer is:
He is not. Not at all.
3:25 I love that he kisses the old lady after she said "Does he have sexual problems?" just a minute prior in 2:00. Such a great way for the Joker to say "fuck you"
wow nice spot
Good eye
Damm bro u got good eye and ears
Bravo
"Does he have a small d*ck? hahahaha"
- Wait lemme pull it out
The scariest man is one who has nothing to lose ...
@The Joker not really cause there’s always a way to break that kind of person
Not the scariest man, but the strongest man
" C'mon Gotham. What do you have to lose? Except your sanity."
- Jerome Valeska
@@gusmccarthy303 If he loses everything, he probably will give up. If he has nothing to lose, he will do whatever he wants because he doesn't care.
@@MeTrabi66 not always, there’s always lines that will be crossed if need be, those with a strong enough mind do
Joaquin’s performance is always gonna give me chills. Joker 2 is gonna be so great.
i hope it won't be messed up
@@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 what do you mean exactly ?
@@tylerdavis6919 well i don't want if the sequel will ruin the original
@@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 I don’t think that’s even possible. Joaquin Phoenix can do no wrong.
Has a sequel been confirmed yet?
The movements Arthur does behind the curtain from 2:25 to 2:54 is like a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis. The Joker emerging from Arthur. Arthur is dead. Long live the Joker. This movie is utterly amazing !
nice perspective man
Good detail
Thats bullshit.
@@Jennifahh you want to know what bullshit everything is a load of bullshit.
100% agreed. I believe it was at this point Arthur fully transitioned into Joker. After that, we never see Arthur again, only the clown prince of crime
- I am just trying to make people laugh.
- Oh and how's that going for you?
- It's mind blowing. I make a killing.
He was mocking Murray’s accent when he said “
Ima just Tryna make people laff “
so anyway i started blasting
.... ha puns
And what the Punch line?
Rahmat Hidayah murray got his fuckin brains blown out by the joker
This scene was so heartbreaking The entire show all Arthur wanted was to make people laugh and be a good performer. Now finally he is relaxed, confident, happy and after he has let go of everything he is charming the audience, everybody loves him, and they go nuts when he does the spin, dance and kiss. even Murray is impressed. He now has everything he ever wanted but it is too late he is too far gone.
Yes, if you watch the work of Carl jung, he says that we have two main personalities, one that we show to the world and the other that we hide because society told us that it was a bad personality. This personality is often more violent, more sexual, more free etc... And Carl jung says that we should try to integrate some of that behavior into the personality that we show to the world. That is what the main character of fight club manage to do. But in joker, the hidden personality takes all the control.
@@devienssaitama6844 yeah he calls it the shadow i think.
@@devienssaitama6844 True words!!
It wasnt arthur anymore it was the joker.
@@dianneschurko5807 I mean the applause was cus of the sign but the surprised cheers were a genuine reaction
i know a million other people have said something similar already but the shot of him smoking behind the scenes watching murray make fun of him is truly something special. it's like i'm literally looking at the joker and not some actor playing the joker. and with the context of what we've seen before, that shot alone says so many things without a line of dialogue, it's nothing short of genius.
if todd philips can catch lightning a second time with the sequel to this masterpiece he will have my respect forever.
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
I got some news, friend...
Well, What’d you think lol
The moment he’s behind stage smoking and listening to the audience watching and laughing at his failure is truly a masterpiece. You can tell how hurt he is by his cold stare. It was then he saw Murray not as his hero, but an enemy that must be dealt with.
Batman and Joker are for kids
Moon knight is for adults
@@lickenhuntsman5338 looked up your claim and couldn’t find a single fucking thing, stop with your bullshit
@@shady8045 Ask Christian Bale himself
@@lickenhuntsman5338 get your head out of your ass. That story's isnt true
So edgy
“We want a clean show”
*Says F-word and headshots someone on live television*
Well In a Way, He Did Clean Murray Out Of There.
It was a clean kill
That was a clean shot 🤯
“No off colour material, no cursing”
Yeah I’d say Arthur went along with those rules 😂
@@aboldone231 “ hey hey hey those are’ t the types of homes we do here”
My brain still can’t even comprehend that that’s Joaquin Phoenix
I watched this with my 21 year old nephew and he could not believe that was an actor. He honestly thought that was a real affected person
Walker11 ahah the acting is so impressive
That's the thing about Joker, usually when actors dress up as him you can't even tell they're the same person. Same thing with Heath Ledger.
@@TheCyclicGamer yes,but you can't say it about Jack who basically played himself
It's not.
It's the Joker.
That extended shot at 2:25 has stuck with me since I first saw the film in theaters. Everything about it is mesmerizing and painful.
That shot at 2:04 is one of the best pieces of cinematography ive seen. So simple, so effective, perfect lighting.
Makes it so Badass
LMAO you need to watch more movies then. Thats always the problem with fans of hero/villain films. They get in a bubble and think any movie related to DC/marvel are the only ones worth watching. There are no risks taken in these movies, every plot advancement gets thrown up and then spoon-fed to you. Boring cinematography too. I finish every superhero movie wishing I would've watched my grass grown instead because it makes me feel just as mindless.
@@loggerhead837 where is this comment going? What would you like us to do with your comment? Use it to change our OPINION?
@@tpakzone Just a buffoon proclaiming elitism without providing a reasonable basis
@@xeixi3789 elitism lmao
I like how the women says if joker has sexual problems and when he gets introduced, comes out and kisses her on purpus basically trolling her.
@Paul Odenfield lol i was little tipsy when i wrote this.
@Paul Odenfield I am a terrible human being that judges people.
I can't tell if this is the copied comment but this is the same comment as someone else's, just changed up a bit.
@@jellythelioness9955 same thoughts perhaps?
R/Boneappletea
2:25 realize that after this dance, it’s mostly the Joker. I believe this was the dance that the spirit of Joker completely took over Arthur’s body.
Almost.
That's whats great about this movie. We don't know when joker took over. Perhaps arthus was always sick
that was the moment Arthur became Heisenberg
Interesting point, the director said that dance scene of him in the bathroom was a meditative way of coping & an escape. I still wonder if killing Murray was an impulse, or at what point he decided not to kill himself?
@@amandahallman1091 I'd like to think that Arthur killing Murray was Arthur killing himself in a way.
3:34 he looked like a absolute demon after that
I don’t know why he kissed that woman though
@@Shadow82311 At 2:00 the old lady asked if he had sexual problems, and so he answered.
"If You Say So Kid, Joker It Is... It's Good"
No Kidding
This movie was such a disappointment, I nearly fell asleep in the cinema watching this.
@@is9273 Well, there's plenty of mass produced action-packed comic movies for you
@@is9273 if you want action don't see a drama movie
I S yeah well i guess you’re one of THOSE people. The person who thought batman V superman was a masterpiece and thought this was bad.
I loved Batman v Superman. Also loved Joker.
Can I even do this? Or should I be a bitch about one of this movies?
Oh, questions, questions, questions!
Just imagine this but Arthur is perfectly stable and is just a comedian in a costume.
The Jester (2019)
@Haley Cantaloupe what do you get...
@@jelvehnaderi534 in a society...
@@adrian6444 that abandons him and threats him like trash?
@Haley Cantaloupe oh god it sounds wrong but wholesome for some reason
You can see the rage in Arthur's eyes when they played back that clip just to take the piss out of his condition. I can imagine how angry he was deep down inside to be laughed at for something he had no control over. All he ever wanted was to make people laugh only to get the opposite.
thats the irony..he still makes ppl laugh, but not the way he wants.
I think Murray making fun of Joker was the straw that broke the camel's back. Like that was his breaking point to do something like this. I feel bad for the guy.
@@kbs5059 instead of laughing at His jokes, Is laughing at Him, while they humiliate and mock him
Anyone who is a fan of this movie. PLEASE do not watch the sequel, it will ruin this one.
Hard disagree. They're both good to me.
@@Webhead731the sequel was awful
The sequel sucked a**
Absolutely. Wisest words ever spoken. It undoes everything from 2019 Joker.
Joker 2: Jokes on you
“No off color material”
Joker: Does admitting to killing three people and murdering you count as “off color material?” That’s part of my act.
"Does getting into a fist fight with a reporter count as entertainment?"
He also breaks the cursing rule, although that kind of pales in comparison to everything else
@Bryan Tribuna 👁 u 👁
You realize that they censored the cursing but not the murdering (kinda like our media today
@@yungtux8770 it's the purest kind my dear
This scene was the birth of an icon.
Why do i see u everywhere
Do you live in youtube tf i see you everywhere
And what about the moment when Arthur Fleck kills the 3 wall street guys on the Subway??
@Freedomlanders United Someone doesn’t have to be a good person to be an icon.
This scene was the birth of a Legend
“Let’s play that clip one last time”
That’s when Murray made his last mistake
Go ahead Bob. The last time bob got them orders lol
I think that was when Joker changed his mind about how the segment would end. When he decided to kill Murray instead of himself
Arcann yeah you can see the look on his face of pure hatred at that moment
What’s wrong with playing a clip?
Daryl Lander the clip is making a mockery out of Arthur. Playing it once was bad enough for him, but at that point Murray basically rubbed it in. It’s bullying essentially.
4:27 that laugh...Goosebump
Yeah... of all of his laughs in the film, this one is the most unsettling 😅
All the other laughs seemed like a man breaking or trying to form his identity. This laugh is definitely the laugh of a serial killer who gets off on killing and unsettling people
The grimace and cold stare he has as he waiting behind the curtain is just chilling. You know how he is feeling without saying a word.
Heartbreaking
Absolutely stunning
Joker manifest him!
Grimace reference
@@pangupongo9742shut the hell up
This was crazy to watch in a movie theater. Just pure shock and brilliance
I saw it 19 times in theaters. 3 on opening day
@@matthewp1682 19 times? Your not normal
@@matthewp1682 get a job
@@matthewp1682 nice
@@elmaschimba963 plss I wanted to see it 19 times 😭
the part when he is standing backstage with the cigarette in his hand and listening to his laugh, that part makes me cry alot
Yes, you can almost think he hated himself for that. His disorder was like a life sentence he didn't asked for. He couldn't help it. I feel so bad for that poor guy
Koba1066 Lenk what’s even sad is his clip is a joke about his childhood dream. He was never allowed to be happy
@@Oakland510unfortunately life could be like hell
Koba1066 Lenk and It was for Arthur. His mind literally only had two solutions left to deal with it. 1:34 or manage to transform into a persona that could handle all the stress, abuse and problems. Please Welcome Joker
Shorouk Khaled bro, you need help. I’m not even memeing. you should not be crying over the joker.
2:25 something about this scene is very heartbreaking. Hearing him say in the background so innocently to his mother that he wants to be a comedian. The music intensifying as he dances slowly, almost as if its telling you "this was an innocent kind gentle soul once, now it has no soul"
Joaquin's slow transition into the Joker is fucking perfect. It's so raw and real and by the time he has gone "mad" we as the audience fully understand how he got there. Both scary and beautiful
This is when Arthur became Joker
YEA he is goo joker they both are best but for me ledger is more psycho
"What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash? YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE!!" Brilliant line because it sums up how joker became the joker.....ironically, explaining it with a joke.
One of the most deserved Oscars ever won. I feel like Joaquin taking on this role took 2-5 years off his life
Really. It was a really good movie, and really good acting by all the actors in the film. Joaquin Phoenix deserved the Oscar.
he said multiple times this was just a job to him lol I doubt it did anything
@@duzted most actors say the same thing, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t take a toll on their bodies. Look at Christian Bale’s weight loss and gain and loss and gain over and over again.. in my opinion, it does have an affect
@@Zecodar thats a valid point
ive lost decades of my life even without killing myself mental health can take a huge toll on you especially if its goin on for years i feel like the joker. its like they made a movie of me
Man I remember for years people were saying no one would ever play a good Joker like the way Nicholson and Ledger did but well Phoenix brought us another stunning performance. Absolutely fantastic.
I think what is really not considered enough is what a great character they got to play. Going psycho in their very own way! Imagine Brando doing it. A young De niro would have done a pretty fair job as well. Not really sure why the actors get so much credit. Batman much harder to play. Just sayin!
There have been some truly brilliant takes on the character. I also think Cameron Monaghan deserves a shoutout for during TWO brilliant takes on the Joker character over on Gotham. Even if he never got to be called the Joker by name.
@@kelbrian3307 LOL
Legder's way overrated...... doesn't feel like the joker just a hateful thug
@@escapetherace1943 yes almost like let’s choose the actor you would most least likely choose and let him do whatever he wants. Just so glad joaquin phoenix was able to bring the focus back to the character.
This film deserves 100% an Oscar.
A jewel for the future generation
It won 2 Oscars but it deserved the Oscar for Best Picture
@@norm-bb3bbit did get the most noms. Unfortunately 2019 was a massive year for best picture (Irishman, ford v Ferrari, 1917, parasite, etc)
Imagine they both walked back in while he had the gun under his chin 😂
Hahahaha
They'd probably run
Oh nah😂
It’s a prop! Lol
They should have XD
Beginning scene:
Arthur:I love you Murray!
Ending scene:
Arthur:You're awful Murray
that's the difference between watching someone on TV and meeting them in real life
@@michaszok340 "Knock Knock" scene
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“I’m just trying to make people laugh”
The way he delivers the line is so good. He puts on a funny voice like a clown would but you can hear there’s a lump in his throat and he stumbles through the line.
He used a funny voice or a childlike voice, it’s not that he’s stumbling through the line
No lump
@@clownsheep22 Hello, can I borrow your UA-cam account because I have a project and I need a very old account and I don't have an old account?
@@kar_los443 ...
For some reason I thought he was doing a de niro impression.
You can tell right here he already decided that he was gonna kill him 2:09
I like to think he doesn’t decide to kill him until like 30 seconds before he does it. He was planning on shooting himself until then, that’s what it felt like
I think he decides it right at the knock-knock joke, when he reads “I just hope my death makes more cents than my life”
It was at this very moment that Joker knew he wouldn't be killing himself.
Leto: Kids Joker
Ledger: Teenagers Joker
Phoenix: Men's Joker
Leto: brain dead people
Literally every other joker: People with two brain cells
@@desipop3654 Your name says it all lol. haven't you realised that The prestige, Following, Insomnia, Inception, Interstellar and Memento are all character driven films but they also got great plots and cinematography aswell????? Also "Nolantards" is commonly used by people who don't understand what makes nolan films great. And Ledger is surely not just for teenagers, it's for everyone who understand deep characters.
Exactly
@@desipop3654 Couldn't agree more mate 👍
2:02 is one of my favourite shots in cinema history. That’s Joker all over. Colourful background, the smokey chaos and the deadpan face of a seriously disturbed individual.
Its my favorite too!
The music is perfect for the clip I think.
I agree
2:29, nice head nod to the original Joker. Check out the color of his jacket 👀
Steve Derderian
Good eye!
The thing people misunderstood about the movie, is that he is not descending into madness. He is getting out of it. As he goes forward, he has less delusions about an imaginary relationship, less uncontrollable laughter and more self confidence and control over himself. He is becoming normal, in a crazy world.
I like to think he’s not becoming normal, just self aware.
Yeah no lol 😂 the point of the movie is it's his narrative. The real events probably didn't go down like this, probably similar, but this is what he was seeing. It's literally a character study. I don't think anyone who would laugh about taking a life is normal 😂 . He's a living delusion, that's what makes him Batman's greatest foe. He's the hero of his own story. Him and Batman are both madmen , with opposing goals. Batman is exactly what you described. Everyone thinks he's strange, he just sees the world for what it is. Joker just be talking out his ass but sees the world as he perceives. Far from normal
@@keytrononit3 I did not say he became a good person, he is just starting to fit into what is normal in Gotham. Yea, in a more comic book style world it could work better. But as hard as it is, try to empathize with him a little. He was constantly victimized by everyone, and taken for a loon. He wanted to commit suicide in public, so maybe people would understand how miserable he feels. Instead, he kills someone, which means he finally started to express his hatred outward, not inward. Again, he did not became a good person, he just taken control, and did what he wanted, with no regrets.
That’s correct
Rofl OK
I like his expressions when Murray tells him the rules. It's like a kid watching his idol talking. Such great actors!
I love that part of the scene.
I like how his initial intent was to off himself as punishment for all his problems but something twist in his mind and turn it against everybody else, as if a realization struck his mind, that the problem is not him is the city.
Yeah
Or the Society
2:02 there came that realisation. That he would forever be a joke as Arthur fleck. It was time instead to make a mockery of the world and people and be born again as joker with that transformation dance
It was the part where he found out about what his mom did that made the twist
I know it seems really dark but i was hoping for him start going of at the people in the show to but it would have been probably to much to handle for a lot of people already hating on this masterpiece!
Ledgers Joker: *Creates Madness*
Joaquin Joker: *Madness creates him*
I mean, I say "I made you" you gotta say "you made me." I mean, how childish can you get?
Nicholson joker: was already mad. Falling into criminals just made him worse.
Leto joker: drives viewers mad.
The Joker was just giving back to the community...
Ledgers joker got a lot of suicide pity was never that good.
LEGO Joker: Created in a Danish factory.
“How about magic trick Murray?”
“Sure.”
“I’m gonna make this pencil... disappear!”
“Oh, and how are you gonna do th-“
“TADA.... and, it’s gone.”
*BANG*
ENOUGH
FROM THE CLOWN
GroxPL Lol the old lady would say that line
xD
That was not joke that was joker's magic
wrong movie Lol
This scene makes me sad for a couple reasons. Arthur was soo anxious yet, still,, despite everything, excited to meet Murray, Sure Murray had already insulted him on live TV and therefore betrayed Arthur in Arthurs mind already but part of me feels like Arthur was still holding out the smallest bit of hope that Murray would be nice to him in person, but then he gets hit with "What's with the face?" At 00:16 ) You can in that moment see the heartbreak and disappointment in his eyes. I mean, damn.
Nice detail man you genius
@@bobiprayoga186 Thanks 😊 Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, Thanks, Murray. Lol.
@@zs3436 now you gone too far bro😂
I love how he actually was true to his word and introduced him as joker
Well he didn't remember his actual name so not sure what else he would've called him lol
The part where Arthur tells Murray to call him Joker and Murray not remembering actually hits me hard. Murray called Arthur a Joker and that stuck with him ever since. Worst part is, Murray didn't even remember. Arthur was literally planning to kill himself right in front of him. In reality, we say stuff to other people all the time but we don't know how the people we're talking to takes it. We may not have meant it or even remember, but the people we talk to take it really seriously which leads to depression, anxiety, etc. This shows how your choice of words can really impact a person with potentially dangerous consequences. These little comments and insults can really damage a person. I think we as a society need to think what we say before and/or whether how they'll take it. Just be more considerate and polite. Is that too much to ask?
It's too much to ask in this extremely individualistic and narcissistic world we live in now
@@Oakland510 What's the phrase
Oh yeh
You took the words right outta my mouth bro
@@shygirl6945 Yeh crazy stuff man
Stop being so sensitive
@@Brian-gk1cd Hmmm Joker isn't a nickname in this case
It is more of a transformation or more of a process of metamorphosis
Arthur was sick of it and then In the scene right before the curtains are opening he twitches which is showing his metamorphosis into Joker. Also Nope just being nice will defo not fix anything in this world
2:04 I think he changed his mind about killing himself at this moment and decided to kill Murray instead
Not yet IMO, he just feels embarrassing when the clip keeps showing and he really don't want to "laugh" because of his conditions, he tries to keep calm and prepare for the show.
lawlaw 91 Naw, I agree with the original comment. He definitely decided right then and there that he was gonna kill Murray. You can just see it on his face. He wasn’t calm at all in that moment, he was angry. When he went on stage, he just played along with everything for a little bit and then he unraveled.
o0Desimere0o not yet, he changed his mind during the interview, he realized he wasn’t being heard anymore and you can see through Joaquin’s amazing performance that he starts to lose control, and you can see the moment in his face when he decides to kill Murray, you can see his descent into complete madness as he loses complete control
Good shout desimere
@@donuberry7654 It was when he read "I hope my death makes more cents [sense] than my life"
@1:15.
The way he said “That’s what you called me; a ‘joker’” there’s the slightest hint of resentment in his voice that Murray doesn’t pick up on because Arthur is smiling while he says it.
Phoenix did a phenomenal job in this movie. Right up there with Heath in my opinion.
@Caspean Sea That's subjective as I think both Heath And Joaquin did a terrific job portraying this character but I still prefer Heath just slightly more.
@The Riddler No, Nicholson played the best comic book Joker, and Joaquin wasn't a modernized Joker he was more of a 80s Joker while Ledger and Leto are the modernized Joker.
Reality is the scariest genre.
Fax
Can I steal your comment
Nah it’s horror
wow so *D E E P*
@@soapyguy6483 didn’t have to do him like that
This movie represents everything i like in cinema: Character development, emotions journey, good cinematography, amazing acting, a perfect color palette and original score. What a masterpiece, every superhero movie should be an exploration of the character as a person rather than an explotion of weapons and meaningless action scenes. Diving into human emotions is poetry and pure art, and this movie is all about that.
Emmanuel Jaramillo yeah we rarely get movies like that nowadays
Exactly 👏👏👏
This this this. You said what I was thinking perfectly. This movie always brings me to tears, because it embodies everything I admire in film. This movie is so beautiful, will always be one of my favorites
Totally agreed!
Wow nice comment!
Joker 2 doesn't exist ignore it
Nah
No puedes ignorar algo que segun tu no existe. Virgen.
@@ElverGalarga-mu5cm stay absolutely mad and eat it up
@@ElverGalarga-mu5cm You're calling me a virgin but you're defending a movie that disrespects fans of the first film lmao get real buddy
why what happened?
2:03 - 2:17 is the best part of the scene for me...
The pure hatred in his eyes gives me chills.
2:07 That shot will forever give me goosebumps everytime I watch it. You can see everything he’s thinking with a blank face.
I love how the joker side protects and cares about the arthur side
@Hitler Loves Anime it’s a theory that goes as Murray might have MPD or multiple personality disorder. And the joker is one of his “personalities” it would explain why Arthur thought some things to be real (like with his “girlfriend”) when in reality it’s the complete opposite. Just a theory, but a pretty solid one at that
@@drunkencowboi7934 meaning, arthur and murray are the same person?
@@katatonikbliss yep, but also no. Different personalities, same body. But that’s just a theory. No full on evidence other then heresay and the way the movie was presented.
You say it like he has Multiple Personality Disorder or something lol
@@Christ_club well he did say that
This movie hurts a lot 💔 Arthur character is innocent, miserable and deeply hurt which makes audience really sad and feel pain for him. Such people deserves lots of pure love and care❤️
How is nobody talking about the music? It’s heavenly
Mesmerizing
I really want to know this piece
It's called "Smile"
@@BenjaminGoose no it's not, it's called Bathroom Dance.
The cello gave me chills.
2:35 what a scene. What a symbolisation of the state of Arthur's mind. He is almost lost in his own confused utopia that exists only and only in his mind- an absolutely beautiful catastrophic world. And the two technicians next to him have no idea and never can understand the chaotic mental state that exists within Arthur. He's a complete different entity, almost an idealistic artist believing in morals while existing in a modern 'civil' prison where people are blind to emotions and only see wealth and popularity.
People always say things like this.
"Arthur's not a good person, and that's what makes him free. He's beautiful. It's everyone else who is ugly slaves"
😥
This is one of the best scenes in the movie.
Wow that was deep. 😢
I actually think Joaquin's Joker laugh is the best live action one, not counting Mark Hamill. You feel the crazy in it.
@fane babanu he even has the mock one and the one he has when he's fully Joker.
Terry I what about Jared Leto?! XD
@@tinyylasagna1569 The guy that laughs like Squidward? actually nevermind that's an insult to Squidward
SuperiorBat Playz yeah that guy but it was a joke as he shouldn’t even have been casted as that role
That's his fake laughter in this scene. He only laughs for real after shooting Murray.
The shot where they show Arthur smoking and him listening to Murray and the audience laughing about him is just absolutely perfect.
2:03-2:18
The palpable, silent rage combined with sadness/disgust as he smokes while watching his idol make fun of him, is some elite acting by Joaquin Phoenix. Such a phenomenal actor.
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
If you really care about palestine..you would find a better way to spread it..and not that bullshit@@maanali4596
Perfect mixed emotions
I think that Joaquin is just perfect for a character like Joker.. because you can just sense from him as a person that he has some of his insecurities and vulnerability as well. The way he does interviews, how shy he is, how thoughtful and barely ever smilling or laughing. He always seems just kinda tense. He does not like to be in the public and he appears to be a very focused and dedicated person to acting. He also has a history of depression and dealing with loss since his brother died. I think that Joaquin is just one of those kinda tired or even broken individuals who are dealing with too much behind their eyes from day to day basis. Which makes him ideal adept for a character like Joker.
@@maanali4596who?
This wasn’t just a movie for me .
What was it then?
@@tonyaiello5136 A manifest of our times.
This movie has frequency only a few can connect to...
@@prajjwalsihag8776 we live in a society....
It was art and still is
I always forget how great the cinematography looks in this film, even with hdr it isn't overpowered it looks stupidly good
The quiet kid when the teacher asks him to present his project
Oh yeah, how painful and cruel the entire school system can be for a quiet introverted kid is really scary.
The Rational Saiyan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Totally agree. I was the quiet and the nerd, I've earned respect then now I'm not a joke anymore.
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKIN DESERVE
A classroom clown*
The poetically disturbing aspect of joker that I love, is the fact that he was a terrible comedian as Arthur (Or whatever alias you perfer) but only because he lacked confidence. The joker persona unleashed his inner potential to be a great comedian, but his jokes are now sadistic and crude. It was like Joker is his true self, and without fear he expresses himself truly and therefore convincingly, although barbaric.
"is the fact that he was a terrible comedian as Arthur (Or whatever alias you perfer) but only because he lacked confidence." Please, comedy isn't about confidence. A bad comedian with huge confidence *is still a bad comedian* . Fact is people tend to find those "I'm-obviously-the-funniest-comedian-ever" types who are full of themselves to be downright annoying.
"The joker persona unleashed his inner potential to be a great comedian" More nonsense. HOW? Some people aren't funny and don't have any potential. In the film it's repeatedly shown that Joker/Arthur Fleck doesn't understand what parts are punchlines and what parts are just observations leading up to the joke. Confidence isn't his issue (and most people talking about confidence being the solution to all problems are usually *narrowminded simpletons and idiots* ) his issue is that his mind is damaged beyond repair due to being subjected to some incredibly cruel treatment by his mother and her lovers. He wants to laugh and be funny because his life has always been about pain, but the bottom line is that he simply doesn't understand what people (in general) consider funny. He even admits late in the movie that his own humor isn't like other people's humor but humor shouldn't be the same for everyone.
"but his jokes are now sadistic and crude." Then it's not humor to anybody but himself. Which *drumroll* ... *makes him disturbed* .
"It was like Joker is his true self, and without fear he expresses himself truly and therefore convincingly" And here your ship sinks below the surface. What is this utter nonsense about him feeling FEAR for comedy? He frickin' laughed whenever he was suffering or actually crying. He made odd observations of what people "consider funny" at stand up comedy shows. People all showed him angry, annoyed, upset or indifferent faces. He hated that and wanted to see them smile and laugh. There was no fear in him for pulling his clumsy jokes. He wrongly believed he was funny when most people were just put off by him. Worse many were cruel and took advantage of his damaged personality when they should have provided support or help to him.
"although barbaric." Your entire comment is barbaric.
What are your qualifications if I may ask? It's very clear you have zero understanding of people, the human psyche and just superimpose your own fears and myopic narrative onto anything. My guess is some chimp told you could achieve anything with confidence and you believed him. Hence this is your bizarre interpretation of the movie.
Your deduction leaves a lot to be desired.
You're claiming that a disturbed man who had suffered all his life had "potential" to be a great comedian but failed because he lacked confidence (these are *your words* ) but then when he snapped and became homicidal and spread fear he suddenly had the "confidence" (which is an observation an alien from another world would make) to be funny - except now this is just crazy murders (and obviously not funny to anybody but him).
Priceless!
Please tell me you're just a kid playing games all day long. If so you have an excuse.
@@McLarenMercedes the fuck is your problem hahaha. Bad day or something? Go outside and touch some grass then. It's only a movie and you are writing to him in a very passive-aggresive way, almost wanting to insult him because of what? His interpretation of a fictional character? Therefore: Your entire comment is barbaric.
Please tell me you're just a simple minded maggot who has issues. If so you have an excuse.
@@McLarenMercedes Bro typed out an entire essay on a UA-cam comment 🤣 if you get no bitches just say so
Why do you have to insult him and make a whole breakdown of his comment. If you don’t like it just skip past it
@@McLarenMercedes Did you really just made a 4-page long rant about someone else's interpretation? As much as I can get your point, the useless sarcasm and name-calling is making it feel like you had a very bad day while writing it.