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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2019
- Joker (2019)
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Storyline: In Gotham City, mentally troubled comedian Arthur Fleck is disregarded and mistreated by society. He then embarks on a downward spiral of revolution and bloody crime. This path brings him face-to-face with his alter-ego: the Joker.
Director: Todd Phillips
Writers: Todd Phillips, Scott Silver
Cast: Joaquin Phoenix (Arthur Fleck \ Joker), Robert De Niro (Murray Franklin), Zazie Beetz (Sophie Dumond), Frances Conroy (Penny Fleck), Brett Cullen (Thomas Wayne), Shea Whigham (Detective Burke), Bill Camp (Detective Garrity), Glenn Fleshler (Randall), Leigh Gill (Gary)
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DC Comics
DC Entertainment
Joint Effort
Village Roadshow Pictures (in association with)
Warner Bros.
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Imagine being invited to a talk show just to get insulted.
it happened to Joaquin phoenix in real life when he went on Jimmy Kimmel I thought he was gonna say "JIMMAY I GOT ONE LAST JOKE"
MattRESScoolkid Super actually he revealed on a podcast with his sisters that that jimmy kimmel thing was just a skit but was amazed how much people hating jimmy for it even though they both talked about it beforehand. It was meant to be a joke but people thought jimmy was just straight up insulting him which Joaquin denies.
@@BreezyBulldog omg 😂
You can say the Ellen show
HQ no seriously watch the podcast he did with his sisters it’s literally the first few things they talk about
"That's what you called me on the show. A _Joker_ ." The way he delivered that line. It was so perfectly passive-aggressive.
1:05
Yeah I didn't realise that till you mentioned it.Amazing honestly
I’ve noticed that too. You can feel his anger behind that sentence
This movie sucked
Quarantine And Chill
you must not dislike it as much as you claim to if you’re here
Arthur's effortlessly charismatic stage entrace, the way he dances, shakes Murray's hand, kisses the woman, and waves at the crowd makes it feel like he was just so close to being an actual entertainer, if he'd only had a little better luck, his life would have gone entirely different.
More specifically, if those Wall Street yuppies didn't attack him, forcing Arthur to have no choice but to shoot them; that is when things started going downhill.
The thing is that Arthur being that relaxed was mostly his Joker's personality.
@@Madheim777 Yes, exactly. Arthur himself had a social anxiety, he was constantly under stress trying to keep his life together and not get bullied for his conditions. He is so effortlessly entertaining once he finally stops caring about his image and is literally ready to die.
It was the gun that freed him, and allowed him to reflect his views without fear of retribution.
All in all he asks to be called joker cause he thought himself a joke, but he really wasn’t into it, he inspired the real Joker though, Jack Napier, that rescues him using the ambulance, and meets him in the alley afterwards.
Notice how the real joker gravitates towards things he would later be known for: ambulances and alleys…
The way he says "I don't believe in anything" so naturally sticks out to me. It just makes it really feel like he has nothing left to lose
Yes, like no group of people ever included or accepted him into any kind of fellowship or cause, no body gave him anything so he stayed unburdened even from something he started.
No, that’s nihilism
@@avastyeescurvydogs well theres still optimistic nihilism where you still belief in your own worth and morals. arthur doesn't believe in anything anymore. only that his entire existence is a joke
He says it so naturally cause it's Joaquin talking...💔
@@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman ''take ur meds'' I don't need them, but I had to take them a couple of months ago every day for like 2 weeks 🗿👍
Joaquin Phoenix: "When you give me the Oscar, can you introduce me as Joker?"
Hitman 😂🤣 great one !
I’d be scared af
Just be sure to check him for weapons beforehand.
Haven't heard that one six thousand times before.
@meaturama LMFAOO hahaha
“Couple of rules though. No cursing, no off colour material, no shooting the host in the head.”
🤣🤣🤣
.... no off colour material, I want a clean show.
Joker: I thought you said I want a clean shot.
Thanks Murray
Joker:I STARTED BLASTING
A hahaha
I love how Murray lays down the rules only for Joker to disguard all of them.
The only sensible way to live in this world is without Rules.
@@Perpetual75 That's a perfectly good way to get arrested.
As the Joker would of course👏🏾
@@blahblahblah33333**disregard
@@Mediadossometimes, we forget that our societal norms and laws were set by normal people like us who don’t know what they are doing.
2:03-2:18
The palpable, silent rage combined with sadness/disgust as he smokes while watching his idol make fun of him, is some elite acting by Joaquin Phoenix. Such a phenomenal actor.
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
If you really care about palestine..you would find a better way to spread it..and not that bullshit@@maanali4596
Perfect mixed emotions
I think that Joaquin is just perfect for a character like Joker.. because you can just sense from him as a person that he has some of his insecurities and vulnerability as well. The way he does interviews, how shy he is, how thoughtful and barely ever smilling or laughing. He always seems just kinda tense. He does not like to be in the public and he appears to be a very focused and dedicated person to acting. He also has a history of depression and dealing with loss since his brother died. I think that Joaquin is just one of those kinda tired or even broken individuals who are dealing with too much behind their eyes from day to day basis. Which makes him ideal adept for a character like Joker.
Robert De Niro doesn't get enough attention for his role as Murray. he perfectly portrayed the typical guy who acts and seems like a nice, cunning, and soft dude, but in reality gets away with stuff like mocking and making fun of his guests, kind of like Ellen Degeneres.
@P.B. *ellen degenerate
He reminds me more of Letterman, because he's kind of a prick.
Murray is the opposite of Ellen Degeneres. He's nice backstage, but his stage character is to mock other people for entertainment. Ellen seems nice on stage, but she's apparently a prick backstage.
That is Robert De Niro man
@@skinnybballer that’s definitely Fallon and Kimmel then. Their extremely passive aggressive, don’t think before they speak to a guest, come off as really fake and condescending, but during the quarantine when we got to see them in a much realer format they honestly weren’t that bad.
Ten seconds of Joaquin Phoenix staring at the stage while smoking a cigarette is more compelling than Jared Leto’s entire performance in Suicide Squad.
rockoperajon damn💀
... or when he walked into the elevator, turns, raises his brow slightly, small smile. Just perfect.
It's because of character development and great writing.....*looks intensely at suicide squad movie*
pfl mob
That cameo was still longer than the 10 seconds mentioned here.
blame the directors
I cant get over the body language. This is real life Joker I imagined him to be, he embodied it perfectly! I was a bit uncomfortable watching a real version of him when I was watching this in the theatre. Joaquin is genius! A master!!
That’s amazing
Joker is a masterpiece of filmmaking
Way better than ledger
@@billukhan2954 joaquin is good, but you're out of your mind if you think he's better than ledger brother
@@billukhan2954They are both equally as good. The look that Director Todd Phillips had in mind of a Joker origin story about a man driven to madness after being shunned by society was nailed by Phoenix. Christopher Nolan wanted a more comic book based chaos agent Joker, who was there to break Gotham's spirit, pushing the Batman to his absolute limit as a hero, and this role was nailed by Ledger. They are both perfect actors for what their films intended them to be. There is no one that is better, because these are two completely different films. Even Phoenix himself bowed in respect to Ledger when he was receiving his awards.
Joaquin’s performance is always gonna give me chills. Joker 2 is gonna be so great.
Joker 2 is going to be amazing and gruesome.
i hope it won't be messed up
@@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 what do you mean exactly ?
@@tylerdavis6919 well i don't want if the sequel will ruin the original
@@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 I don’t think that’s even possible. Joaquin Phoenix can do no wrong.
In Joker's defence, Murray dont put a rule about shooting him in the head..
Yah true
Well, the fact that it really sound like a joke is weird and same time funny
True
True true
"We're gonna do a clean show..." Yeah...never...
“He looks like he has a lot of problems”
That’s when Murray died
Lans Taylor Arther Fleck:"Looks like you've chosen death."
Has he got sexual problems
AnarchistofYT00 2:30 he was loading up
@@billydarley6925 lol what did actor do to you
@@alienbob2522 he's 14 and he's trying his hardest to look edgy dont take him seriously
2:25 It's as if he's expressing his mental breakdown after hearing insulting words from a person he believed in
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
@@maanali4596Bro wtf does Palestine haves to do with Joker 💀💀💀
@@maanali4596
That makes no sense bro
That was a creative response from him I want to clip his slow insane recital backstage
2:04 is one of the best scenes in this entire movie. Stone-faced and silent, but inside he's fuming at being made fun of. How you can see the intense anger in his eyes. Perfect acting.
The fact that Murray doesn't remember that he called him Joker just sticks with me.
Indeed friendo. It really shows how no matter how much their fans may look up to them, some famous people just dont care or rember them.
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 I'ts weird to see both sides, for Arthur it means everything and for Murray just doesn't feel even close to what Arthur was actually feeling .
U know he was hallucinating most of the movie right. That actually never happened. This movie isn't really good. It's just Scorceses Comedian with the joker inserted. It's not even an original story. Everyone hyped it up but I hated this movie to b honest
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 He was hallucinating 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@blackdynamite5016 It still shows the fact that a lot of famous people dont really care or remember their fans, so fuck off with those 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Arthur: “You’re awful Murray.”
Murray: “You talkin’ to me?”
Rodolfo Cortez “Playing my video, inviting me on the show,....You just wanted to make fun of me. You're just like the rest of them!”
I don't see anyone else here. You talking to me?
Say hello to MY little friend
What? You just quoted the video what’s your comment??
ToxicSkull0 that quote is from Scareface.
He was going to kill himself but after Murray made fun of him, he decided to kill him
@@Thomas_Anders0n see the scene again, he pointed the gun at himself because he planned to commit suicide
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
yep😊
i know a million other people have said something similar already but the shot of him smoking behind the scenes watching murray make fun of him is truly something special. it's like i'm literally looking at the joker and not some actor playing the joker. and with the context of what we've seen before, that shot alone says so many things without a line of dialogue, it's nothing short of genius.
if todd philips can catch lightning a second time with the sequel to this masterpiece he will have my respect forever.
It reminds me of Palestine😰💔
"That's what you called me on the show: a Joker." Great acting! I could hear the anger in his voice
what a voice!!!!! I felt in love with this voice!!!!!
HNTR L And then he says "Do you remember?" he sounds menacing!
It was subtle, most of us can hear it.
Sometimes I would forget that he's acting
Notice how only one eye blinks out of frustration almost like twitching. Joaquin neeeds that Oscar now!
Arthur's main intention was to kill himself in front of a live audience but that scene of him holding a cigarette and that menacing glare, that changed the path and it was Murray that he was going to turn the gun on. If Murray hadn't brought up that video again just to spite and make fun of him, he would have lived.
Exactly
Yup
I was under the impression he was gonna kill Murray then himself.
I also see that as well And as he calls Murray awful look at jokers face Arthur was gone he was trying to contain hisself but it was done
@Megan Todd Gary was a great friend. Randall is a jerk. The scene where he opened up the door and saw Randall, Arthur looked pissed and then he heard Gary's voice and he looked happy.
3:34 he looked like a absolute demon after that
That extended shot at 2:25 has stuck with me since I first saw the film in theaters. Everything about it is mesmerizing and painful.
He literally broke all of the rules that Murray gave him
Amir Agarwal broke them? More like annihilated them and gave them the middle finger
Yeah, that really blew Murray's mind
He made fun of him tho
Well he did "love" dr sally
That is the joker. No rules
The scariest man is one who has nothing to lose ...
@The Joker not really cause there’s always a way to break that kind of person
Not the scariest man, but the strongest man
" C'mon Gotham. What do you have to lose? Except your sanity."
- Jerome Valeska
@@gusmccarthy303 If he loses everything, he probably will give up. If he has nothing to lose, he will do whatever he wants because he doesn't care.
@@MeTrabi66 not always, there’s always lines that will be crossed if need be, those with a strong enough mind do
I like his expressions when Murray tells him the rules. It's like a kid watching his idol talking. Such great actors!
I love that part of the scene.
4:27 that laugh...Goosebump
"Well that was quite an entrance!"
Just wait 'til he makes his exit, pal.
😂
Well, technically, he makes it Murray's exit.
@Obi Wan Kenobi its Gotham people are just as useless as the police, which is why people need batman-
This is a joke btw.
His exit is to die for
There is no exit. because he's dead and can't see.
There is no punchline.
Murray: " we do a clean show..."
Jokers head: "a clean shot, got it."
This deserves more likes 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha love it
Excellent
Murray's* head
No cursing. No off-color material. ... He said nothing about everyday stuff like murder.
... Well, alright, I guess you could call blood the off-color. ... But he won't mind once he has seen the stunning performance and deadpan delivery.
😄🤡
Honestly, after seeing clips of this movie, I can only see the joker as being played by Joaquin Phoenix. I feel like DC has finally found it's Joker after Heath Ledger. I want to see Joaquin Phoenix in more movies.
Well you got what you wished for. October 24.
Don't worry, the musical sequel with no plot involving batman is coming
@@steverbeaver1147 Go watch Dark Knight. I suits kiddo like you well
@@caspeansea9619that wasnt necessary💀i do hate this whole “musical=bad and cringe” thing ppl have decided to throw around since the second film was announced being a theatre kid at heart and i think people need to open their minds to experience new things and new mediums (not to mention the notion that Joker NEEDS Batman to have a good movie and proper story is just straight up silly) but being condescending for no reason like that is just childish💀💀
The fact is there is a huge difference between Ledger's joker and Phoenix's joker, one is a pshychopat that likes damages other one is just an empath whom pushed too far.
Joaquin is such a magnetic actor. The range of emotions he displays in this scene is amazing to watch.
Dal ballo passa quasi ad essere in una sorta di nirvana prima di esplodere come un vulcano alle provocazioni di murray
Incredible actor
This is one scene that explains why the joker isn't afraid to die,
he actually made the decision to end his life, but his hatred for society made him delay his suicide.
Yes, the only thing holding back his decision to commit suicide is seeking revenge against society
SOCIETY
SoCiEtY
We live in a
Relatable comment.
Not revenge. He wants to cause chaos because life is a joke.
"If You Say So Kid, Joker It Is... It's Good"
No Kidding
This movie was such a disappointment, I nearly fell asleep in the cinema watching this.
@@is9273 Well, there's plenty of mass produced action-packed comic movies for you
@@is9273 if you want action don't see a drama movie
I S yeah well i guess you’re one of THOSE people. The person who thought batman V superman was a masterpiece and thought this was bad.
I loved Batman v Superman. Also loved Joker.
Can I even do this? Or should I be a bitch about one of this movies?
Oh, questions, questions, questions!
Joaquin Phoenix is the best joker.
What an amazing performance !😮
Anyone who has seen any other movies with Joaquin Phoenix knows how incredible this level of acting is.
His personality differs so greatly and just like heath ledger. He embodied the character for the movie
son of hades
“That’s what you called me...a joker...d’ya remember?”
That’s when Murray died.
No that’s not when Murray died because after that scene Joker continuous to practise his bit where he would commit suicide in front of the audience for the laughs. Murray died in the 2:00, because he invited him on the show, and he still humiliated him
If I was Murray that line would set some damn red flags off!
@@necron7436 I Think he does, but hes right.
Bunch of dumbasses
@@viewaskew7741 Lol sure
“I don’t believe in anything”
The little hints of him needing help he gives
I dont think you understand... some people do need help, they’re mentally ill. Its an illness.
@Marcin Zalewski I hope you don't know anyone with a mental illness.
0x apparently as much as you
Ruqayat Hime you need help
And his face when he said that..... Just brilliant! This man is an awesome actor!!
@2:18 the pain he shows with disappointment on his face! Damn well deserved Oscar award for him!
2:04
Poco a poco Arthur cambiaba el plan de matarse y retorcerlo mas.
I like the part when he just stands there with a cigarette in his fingers and just stares
Sends shivers down my spines
Lordius T idk if it’s the blue hue in the background or Joaquin’s look, but that shot of him just staring was quite chilling
*spines*
It's in a league of it's own, perfection!
It’s a mix of the acting and the production people in charge of the lighting. Absolute stellar job from basically everyone working on this movie
Extra the haunting cello which plays in the background adds to the scene perfectly
“We do a clean show” proceeds to shoot him during the show and blood splatters everywhere
Ddlala63 clean kill maybe .. 🤷♂️
But no cursing
@@astrol4b Then a curse word is one of the last words he ever hears
It became literally dirty
In fairness, he was planning on shooting himself and making himself messy before he decided to turn the gun elsewhere.
Honestly I'd love to see Joaquin Phoenix return as the Joker.
you got your wish
I just noticed, but Arthur looks at Murray the WHOLE TIME during the dialogue, even when he answers Gene
- I am just trying to make people laugh.
- Oh and how's that going for you?
- It's mind blowing. I make a killing.
He was mocking Murray’s accent when he said “
Ima just Tryna make people laff “
so anyway i started blasting
.... ha puns
And what the Punch line?
Rahmat Hidayah murray got his fuckin brains blown out by the joker
His entrance is so great.
Well the music is catchy too
@@triplev5542 ikr
2:52 - 2:55 with a nice deep breath and relaxing his shoulders. Joker is here
I love when he dance. LOVE IT!!!
All movie is great.
This movie hurts a lot 💔 Arthur character is innocent, miserable and deeply hurt which makes audience really sad and feel pain for him. Such people deserves lots of pure love and care❤️
The shot where they show Arthur smoking and him listening to Murray and the audience laughing about him is just absolutely perfect.
I still feel so bad for Joker every time I see this scene. Throughout the movie, he really looked up to Murray and admired him. Then he realized his idol just thought of him as a joke and wanted him on the show just to humiliate him. It's absolutely heartbreaking that he's backstage, behind the curtains, and still having to hear Murray, his guests, and the audience making fun of him and laughing at him before he goes on stage.
I think Joker realized this when he left the dressing room to stand behind the curtain.
At first I thought people laughed cuz they loved it. But it’s the total opposite right?
Kamen Yake well Murray broadcasted Arthur’s video to make fun of him,so yeah, the opposite. (Or both)
this guy need a psychiatric treatment, dude, and not pity, every balanced and adult person know that tv is just crap, and the people that work in tv is crap too, if an adult think that any famous tv worker is a great guy is clearly wrong, the joker was a absolute sick man, dude, is not something to feel bad or any other shit, the man was TERRIBLE SICK, nobody kill anyone just cos he is in anger with the other person, THAT IS SICK, balanced and healthy person can manage the frustration, the anger etc in a godd way, but this joker just was a fucking psycho
@KARLA CUSTALS wow. Last paragraph, well said.
Love how the women says does he have sexual problems and he just walks out and makes out with her, basically making a mockery out of what she just said
Damn, good one for Joker. :)
damnit i just caught that
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Joaquin improvised the kiss. The script says he hugged her.
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man A well deserved Oscar, he portrayed two different characters like Jekyll and Hyde.
@Your Totally Real Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Joaquin is a very sensitive man, you could feel his emotions in his speech, that's one of the many reasons he's an incredible actor, he catalyze those emotions with his acting.
It took me a while but now I see it . His confidence, the way he dances on the stage and smiles so strongly that you get uncomfortable. He’s not on a strap a bomb to something level yet but we didn’t need that for an origin . You wouldn’t want to be in a room with this guy because he’s just so unpredictable.
3:43 Wow! You can see his emotions swift clearly after that joke by Murray... He felt humiliated. Brilliant acting!
“We want a clean show”
*Says F-word and headshots someone on live television*
Well In a Way, He Did Clean Murray Out Of There.
It was a clean kill
That was a clean shot 🤯
“No off colour material, no cursing”
Yeah I’d say Arthur went along with those rules 😂
@@aboldone231 “ hey hey hey those are’ t the types of homes we do here”
Joaquin is a ridiculously talented actor.
Your line is kinda absurd but I agree.
One of the best...
@Stomie Haze You're fucking stupid
He put his heart and soul into this role. It was amazing.
This and Gladiator are his work of art
Like it or not - the performance of Phoenix and DeNiro is as good as it can possibly get.
Perfect acting in every way combined with perfect cinematography - it´s ridiculous how good it is
The scene at 1:35 was just fucking perfect to me. The unpredictability
3:25 I love that he kisses the old lady after she said "Does he have sexual problems?" just a minute prior in 2:00. Such a great way for the Joker to say "fuck you"
wow nice spot
Good eye
Damm bro u got good eye and ears
Bravo
"Does he have a small d*ck? hahahaha"
- Wait lemme pull it out
That confidence and unpredictability when he walks on stage is pure Joker. Like it's not even Arthur anymore.
You see him transform in front of the curtain. There's even a trick of the light which makes his red/magenta suit look purple.
the makeup room scene is Arthur talking to Murray, he's nice got that friendly vibe but the moment he's waiting for his introduction thats when The Joker enter
He thought these were his last minutes - for he was about to kill himself -, so he wasn't stressed, like nothing matters anymore.
His transformation always starts from his left. See how he raises his left arm in the beginning of the dance. It's a transference that is happening.
That's because Arthur's no longer there, Joker is born to the world at that moment
the constant lump in my throat, that never passing feeling of uneasiness, that scream ready to jump right out my mouth at any moment the Joker's on screen shows how well this movie was written and how extremely well Phoenix nailed this character.
Anyone who's been insulted never forgets it.
My brain still can’t even comprehend that that’s Joaquin Phoenix
I watched this with my 21 year old nephew and he could not believe that was an actor. He honestly thought that was a real affected person
Walker11 ahah the acting is so impressive
That's the thing about Joker, usually when actors dress up as him you can't even tell they're the same person. Same thing with Heath Ledger.
@@TheCyclicGamer yes,but you can't say it about Jack who basically played himself
It's not.
It's the Joker.
Imagine they both walked back in while he had the gun under his chin 😂
Hahahaha
They'd probably run
Oh nah😂
It’s a prop! Lol
They should have XD
Movie was hilarious. Such a great story line and brilliant acting. Hand this man an Oscar
They did.
A magnificent actor and character. I loved his dance in this scene for some reason. It showed him trying to put on a happy face while being thrown away by his former idol.
Reality is the scariest genre.
Fax
Can I steal your comment
Nah it’s horror
wow so *D E E P*
@@soapyguy6483 didn’t have to do him like that
“No off color material”
Joker: Does admitting to killing three people and murdering you count as “off color material?” That’s part of my act.
"Does getting into a fist fight with a reporter count as entertainment?"
He also breaks the cursing rule, although that kind of pales in comparison to everything else
@Bryan Tribuna 👁 u 👁
You realize that they censored the cursing but not the murdering (kinda like our media today
@@yungtux8770 it's the purest kind my dear
Joaquin just made insanity look beautiful. He didn't just play The Joker, he BECAME The Joker. Just look at his facial expressions, the build ups, his movements. When you look into his eyes, you just see a man craving to hit society as hard is they did to him. And when you think about this scene in particular, look at how he shows how huge of a fan he was of Murray "I feel like I know you... I've been watching you for forever.", and how he actually was practicing on how he was going to shoot himself, just for everything to be perfect and how he planned it. This is a Masterpiece, and one of the most deserved Oscars wins in History.
"That's what you called me on the show, a joker."
Poor Murray failed to pick up on the hate and rage lurking in that scene.
Beginning scene:
Arthur:I love you Murray!
Ending scene:
Arthur:You're awful Murray
that's the difference between watching someone on TV and meeting them in real life
@@michaszok340 "Knock Knock" scene
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There’s something so eerie about the way he stares at the stage, stone faced, while they’re making fun of him at 2:03. He’s spent the entirety of the movie up until this point embarrassed by his inability to control the spectrum of his emotions. But I think it’s at this exact moment, that he decides he’s past the point of having his feelings hurt. He’s finally made the permanent ascension from sadness to rage. He’s no longer looking to please those who have ostracized him his entire life. He’s looking to punish them.
There's a line earlier in the movie, "I used to think that my life was a tragedy, but now I realize, it’s a comedy.", that illustrates that Joker's journey in the movie isn't from sadness to rage - it's from having the world tragically impose itself on him, to imposing himself comedically on the world.
And the whole time his laughing condition never flared up once that dance was completely joker taking over
Isnt this what a lot of us go through? Hurting ourself for others mistakes and then coming tk a point where we decide not to let our feelings be hurt. And in turn turning to rage to protect our self
the Joker’s dance right before the curtains went up can also be considered foreshadowing. Arthur danced in the subway restroom after killing the 3 guys that bullied him on the train.
I would love to do the same
Such a powerful scene
are you joking?
@@mito88
How about another joke?
I've seen all of them since the 90s....This is the best & most realistic Joker! Almost like a documentary!
The crew members on the backstage must be thinking: "Is this guy okay?"
Neat little detail, he drops the cigarette in his entrance and you see the production crew pick it up off the floor from behind the curtain @3:14
from his point of view, arthur/joker is just dancing away to nothing but his clip playing in the background. This soundtrack is only heard by us. so i get whyy he's freaked out. plus he has no idea of the long list of experiencess that has ruined and destroyed arthurs sanity
@@GiraffeFeatures good attention to detail by the team and imperious for noticing it
wanna like but it’s on 666
And the answer is:
He is not. Not at all.
“Let’s play that clip one last time”
That’s when Murray made his last mistake
Go ahead Bob. The last time bob got them orders lol
I think that was when Joker changed his mind about how the segment would end. When he decided to kill Murray instead of himself
Arcann yeah you can see the look on his face of pure hatred at that moment
What’s wrong with playing a clip?
Daryl Lander the clip is making a mockery out of Arthur. Playing it once was bad enough for him, but at that point Murray basically rubbed it in. It’s bullying essentially.
1:45 You can tell Arthur did not want to go through with killing Murray. There was a real mental war going on between him and Joker.
He actually wanted to him himself from the very beginning. It was his rage for Murray in the middle of this that he decided to kill Murray instead
And this people, is why you don't step on those who are down. They have nothing to lose
The moment he’s behind stage smoking and listening to the audience watching and laughing at his failure is truly a masterpiece. You can tell how hurt he is by his cold stare. It was then he saw Murray not as his hero, but an enemy that must be dealt with.
Batman and Joker are for kids
Moon knight is for adults
@@lickenhuntsman5338 looked up your claim and couldn’t find a single fucking thing, stop with your bullshit
@@shady8045 Ask Christian Bale himself
@@lickenhuntsman5338 get your head out of your ass. That story's isnt true
So edgy
I like how the women says if joker has sexual problems and when he gets introduced, comes out and kisses her on purpus basically trolling her.
@Paul Odenfield lol i was little tipsy when i wrote this.
@Paul Odenfield I am a terrible human being that judges people.
I can't tell if this is the copied comment but this is the same comment as someone else's, just changed up a bit.
@@jellythelioness9955 same thoughts perhaps?
R/Boneappletea
2:05 That expressionless face tells a lot of stories behind😑
This is what is call acting! I feel the pain and hopelessness
I like how his initial intent was to off himself as punishment for all his problems but something twist in his mind and turn it against everybody else, as if a realization struck his mind, that the problem is not him is the city.
Yeah
Or the Society
2:02 there came that realisation. That he would forever be a joke as Arthur fleck. It was time instead to make a mockery of the world and people and be born again as joker with that transformation dance
It was the part where he found out about what his mom did that made the twist
I know it seems really dark but i was hoping for him start going of at the people in the show to but it would have been probably to much to handle for a lot of people already hating on this masterpiece!
The thing people misunderstood about the movie, is that he is not descending into madness. He is getting out of it. As he goes forward, he has less delusions about an imaginary relationship, less uncontrollable laughter and more self confidence and control over himself. He is becoming normal, in a crazy world.
I like to think he’s not becoming normal, just self aware.
Yeah no lol 😂 the point of the movie is it's his narrative. The real events probably didn't go down like this, probably similar, but this is what he was seeing. It's literally a character study. I don't think anyone who would laugh about taking a life is normal 😂 . He's a living delusion, that's what makes him Batman's greatest foe. He's the hero of his own story. Him and Batman are both madmen , with opposing goals. Batman is exactly what you described. Everyone thinks he's strange, he just sees the world for what it is. Joker just be talking out his ass but sees the world as he perceives. Far from normal
@@keytrononit3 I did not say he became a good person, he is just starting to fit into what is normal in Gotham. Yea, in a more comic book style world it could work better. But as hard as it is, try to empathize with him a little. He was constantly victimized by everyone, and taken for a loon. He wanted to commit suicide in public, so maybe people would understand how miserable he feels. Instead, he kills someone, which means he finally started to express his hatred outward, not inward. Again, he did not became a good person, he just taken control, and did what he wanted, with no regrets.
That’s correct
Rofl OK
Joker is one of the best movies so far in the 21st century. That movie changes you.
Murray: "Well that was... quite an entrance"
Arthur: "Wait until you see my exit" (in his head, probably)
One of the most deserved Oscars ever won. I feel like Joaquin taking on this role took 2-5 years off his life
Really. It was a really good movie, and really good acting by all the actors in the film. Joaquin Phoenix deserved the Oscar.
he said multiple times this was just a job to him lol I doubt it did anything
@@duzted most actors say the same thing, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t take a toll on their bodies. Look at Christian Bale’s weight loss and gain and loss and gain over and over again.. in my opinion, it does have an affect
@@Zecodar thats a valid point
ive lost decades of my life even without killing myself mental health can take a huge toll on you especially if its goin on for years i feel like the joker. its like they made a movie of me
The movements Arthur does behind the curtain from 2:25 to 2:54 is like a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis. The Joker emerging from Arthur. Arthur is dead. Long live the Joker. This movie is utterly amazing !
nice perspective man
Good detail
Thats bullshit.
@@Jennifahh you want to know what bullshit everything is a load of bullshit.
100% agreed. I believe it was at this point Arthur fully transitioned into Joker. After that, we never see Arthur again, only the clown prince of crime
0:51 That "hmm"... Joker is saying "yeah right Murray, I'm going full CLEAN"
the part when he is standing backstage with the cigarette in his hand and listening to his laugh, that part makes me cry alot
Yes, you can almost think he hated himself for that. His disorder was like a life sentence he didn't asked for. He couldn't help it. I feel so bad for that poor guy
Koba1066 Lenk what’s even sad is his clip is a joke about his childhood dream. He was never allowed to be happy
@@Oakland510unfortunately life could be like hell
Koba1066 Lenk and It was for Arthur. His mind literally only had two solutions left to deal with it. 1:34 or manage to transform into a persona that could handle all the stress, abuse and problems. Please Welcome Joker
Shorouk Khaled bro, you need help. I’m not even memeing. you should not be crying over the joker.
You can see the rage in Arthur's eyes when they played back that clip just to take the piss out of his condition. I can imagine how angry he was deep down inside to be laughed at for something he had no control over. All he ever wanted was to make people laugh only to get the opposite.
thats the irony..he still makes ppl laugh, but not the way he wants.
I think Murray making fun of Joker was the straw that broke the camel's back. Like that was his breaking point to do something like this. I feel bad for the guy.
@@kbs5059 instead of laughing at His jokes, Is laughing at Him, while they humiliate and mock him
At least the Joker didn’t curse.
I love this movie and the entire scene from where he's backstage to where he is done shooting Murray and holds the camera. Those, what, 8 minutes (?) of acting address things that you experience as a bullied person in such a short span of time on film. The gaslighting once you confront your bully as they pretend to or genuinely don't remember insulting/ assaulting you, when you finally confront them , they play the victim and as if they don't deserve the full throated confrontation/ a*kicking they are finally getting. And the audience of ppl that watched them bully you for god knows how long will suddenly jump to the bully's defense, chiding the bullied person for going too far.
It's an amazing piece of work, this movie, because it touches on some very ugly human stuff that only chronically bullied people could ever truly understand.
That said, I'm grateful AF I got bullied so horribly at school in the years before social media. Made me tough as nails. Kids nowadays though have no escape from it with social media. It follows them everywhere. At least I knew when I went home from school, I was safe until the next morning at school.
If you're being bullied on social media, how about not looking at social media? But what would I know...
So true--especially how it's the bully who gets others' support while the victim gets chastised. It's crazy how pervasive that is.
If I knew you in real life, based on this comment, I would bully you 😂
@@danoliver7044 based on this comment, you are looking like a jerk which are made to be mocked in this movie. Nobody likes you for your aggressiveness bruv.
2:25 realize that after this dance, it’s mostly the Joker. I believe this was the dance that the spirit of Joker completely took over Arthur’s body.
Almost.
That's whats great about this movie. We don't know when joker took over. Perhaps arthus was always sick
that was the moment Arthur became Heisenberg
Interesting point, the director said that dance scene of him in the bathroom was a meditative way of coping & an escape. I still wonder if killing Murray was an impulse, or at what point he decided not to kill himself?
@@amandahallman1091 I'd like to think that Arthur killing Murray was Arthur killing himself in a way.
Ledgers Joker: *Creates Madness*
Joaquin Joker: *Madness creates him*
I mean, I say "I made you" you gotta say "you made me." I mean, how childish can you get?
Nicholson joker: was already mad. Falling into criminals just made him worse.
Leto joker: drives viewers mad.
The Joker was just giving back to the community...
Ledgers joker got a lot of suicide pity was never that good.
LEGO Joker: Created in a Danish factory.
The moment before he came out was one of the most tense I’ve ever felt in a cinema. The anticipation about what might happen was incredible
This movie is like 2 hours of pain, but you can't stop watching.
And that lonely cello...? Man, the score on this is legendary af.
This scene was so heartbreaking The entire show all Arthur wanted was to make people laugh and be a good performer. Now finally he is relaxed, confident, happy and after he has let go of everything he is charming the audience, everybody loves him, and they go nuts when he does the spin, dance and kiss. even Murray is impressed. He now has everything he ever wanted but it is too late he is too far gone.
Yes, if you watch the work of Carl jung, he says that we have two main personalities, one that we show to the world and the other that we hide because society told us that it was a bad personality. This personality is often more violent, more sexual, more free etc... And Carl jung says that we should try to integrate some of that behavior into the personality that we show to the world. That is what the main character of fight club manage to do. But in joker, the hidden personality takes all the control.
@@devienssaitama6844 yeah he calls it the shadow i think.
@@devienssaitama6844 True words!!
It wasnt arthur anymore it was the joker.
@@dianneschurko5807 I mean the applause was cus of the sign but the surprised cheers were a genuine reaction
That face he gives at 2:03 is nothing short of utterly DEMENTED. Joaquin Phoenix is a national treasure. He earned that Oscar.
Its crazy i see right here he was hurt by Murray
@@user-jn1vu4yz2h it doesn't matter, he is a vegan 😂😂😂😂
Honestly, watching this again, you have to appreciate how well shot it was. It's not just his expression and body language, it's the way the camera captures it
This has some flaws as a movie but the visuals are something else.
@@user-jn1vu4yz2h based on what
@@user-jn1vu4yz2h sounds like a legend
Just watched this movie for the first time over the weekend. Phoenix is amazing in this movie!! It DID deserve all the hype and praise it received.
Phoenix was great in the role. The movie as a whole, however, was not good and was overhyped. I'm terribly sorry 😬
@@wet-read
You can blame the media for that saying it will cause an incel violence making more people go see the film for themselves
@@joscar062
🤔 Maybe. I think the chief reason is that it is about the most popular comic book villain of all time. Besides, what else would people expect from a Joker origin story?
Just imagine this but Arthur is perfectly stable and is just a comedian in a costume.
The Jester (2019)
@Haley Cantaloupe what do you get...
@@jelvehnaderi534 in a society...
@@adrian6444 that abandons him and threats him like trash?
@Haley Cantaloupe oh god it sounds wrong but wholesome for some reason
The part where Arthur tells Murray to call him Joker and Murray not remembering actually hits me hard. Murray called Arthur a Joker and that stuck with him ever since. Worst part is, Murray didn't even remember. Arthur was literally planning to kill himself right in front of him. In reality, we say stuff to other people all the time but we don't know how the people we're talking to takes it. We may not have meant it or even remember, but the people we talk to take it really seriously which leads to depression, anxiety, etc. This shows how your choice of words can really impact a person with potentially dangerous consequences. These little comments and insults can really damage a person. I think we as a society need to think what we say before and/or whether how they'll take it. Just be more considerate and polite. Is that too much to ask?
It's too much to ask in this extremely individualistic and narcissistic world we live in now
@@Oakland510 What's the phrase
Oh yeh
You took the words right outta my mouth bro
@@shygirl6945 Yeh crazy stuff man
Stop being so sensitive
@@Brian-gk1cd Hmmm Joker isn't a nickname in this case
It is more of a transformation or more of a process of metamorphosis
Arthur was sick of it and then In the scene right before the curtains are opening he twitches which is showing his metamorphosis into Joker. Also Nope just being nice will defo not fix anything in this world