REACTION to Wheel of Time Season 2 Episode 3 by a WOT BOOK DIE-HARD!
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Kritter XD, and I am a HUGE Wheel of Time fan. I've read the books multiple times, and THIS is my reaction to Season 2 Episode 3 of The Wheel of Time show!
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My husband finally asked after the 3rd arch, "Why do you keep saying 'Be steadfast'?" BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BOOK AND IT SHOULD BE THERE!! lol
Fingers and toes crossed we get it somehow at some point because I NEEDS IT PRECIOUS 🤣
I cared more about the Seanchan insect helmets and southern drawls than the “be steadfast” line.
15 audiobooks add up to 462 hours to hear all of the books. 13,000 pages and almost 3,000 characters…. You can’t get EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT. I view it as reading the books is one experience. Listening to the audio books another experience and watching the tv series hard boil it all down to 8 seasons at 8 episodes per season so…. 64 hours. (64 hours compared to 462 hours!). There are 15 audio books and some of them are like 41 hours and 32 minutes for “The lord of Chaos” . Be happy for getting something. When I first heard that the Lord of the Rings films were coming out I wondered if one day we could get a Robert Jordan OR Raymond E Feist movie or tv mini series. 20 years later we are and this is it. ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS. ALSO, I never read the Walking Dead comics but loved the tv show that was based on them. They followed the comic series so close that it was very predictable (going online and reading about the comic book series spoiled the next 6 years for me. When it came to Glen’s death from a baseball bat….. that was the most accurate thing to show BUT the wrong choice as overnight they lost a lot of their followers. Not because of him dying but how they portrayed it.
In the wheel of time they will have to conglomerate multiple characters into - a single character. Moraine loosing her power in the tv show this early means they are combining storylines and characters to condense down to 64 1 hour episodes Multiple storylines will be lumped together to where us devoted will and should have a problem with it but again what is the right way? It’s not 1 book but 15. 462 episodes at 8 episodes per season will take 58 years….. so what are all of you complaining about???
Of all the things they changed in the show from the books, be steadfast doesn't even come close for me LOL. I'm more concerned about how there are 4 ta'veren in the two rivers and it's not swarming with Browns studying every inch of the village (not to mention the extreme insult that puts on the accomplishments of the two women who came from there. All the significant and wheel shattering breakthroughs and accomplishments they have done can now be simply chalked up to the fact they are ta'veren), or how a fade can just be killed unceremoniously with a dagger to the Head.
I kept saying "Be steadfast " as well, lol
Zoë Robins was so good in that final scene, you can hear the horror of it all.
Absolutely mind blowing
In that last scene, I noticed that Mat's corpse is missing an eye.
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Heartbreaking. I cried out loud.
I think for what it was trying to do narratively, the final Arch scene in this episode was actually better than the book. Granted, it was very early in the series, but the raw emotion of watching her lose her child trumps her just walking away from Lan.
There were children in the book trial as well. Three if I'm not mistaken. Not on page except for being mentioned by Lan as Ny'neave walked away
I agree this version hit me harder than the book did. It was visceral. Plus the idea that she literally lived all of those years with her family only to have it ripped away so violently and abruptly
It creates emotional drama for the viewer but it also creates a problematic issue with Nynaeve's character. If she lived all those years with her family and at some point realized it is just the accepted test, she should live all her remaining life questioning if she is still inside the arches. There is no way of telling if it is the real world or not and that would fuck a person up@@KritterXD
As a non book reader, I love the show, and it's a breath of fresh air to watch a book reader commentary/ reaction that likes the show !!! I respect and understand everyone has their own opinion, but I personally can't watch reviews where the person hates the show and complains through the whole review... thank you!!! I love hearing about the differences in the book and show and other story lines that are in the books which I plan to read one day! :)
I cannot see her come out of those arches empty handed without tears streaming down my face. Wow.
This was the first time I noticed Egwene not using her hands when casting wall of fire on the doorway
My girl is crushing it
I kind of love her Care Bear Stare posture when she's channeling that. It is the Egwene who acts like she thinks an Aes Sedai would act but not using her hands because she's learned that lesson. ❤
Going to miss the Uno cussing in front of Nyeave
Same 😭😭
WOW! That was such fun to watch with you. I really enjoyed your comments and reactions. I'm a book reader, and I broke one of my rules by watching this before watching your reactions to the first two episodes (which of course I'm going to watch when I finish typing this. I'd long ago come to the conclusion that no shows will be exactly like the books, but if they can keep the tone and the feel of what's going on I can enjoy it. I enjoyed the first season and am loving this one. Be steadfast! :)
I am staying steadfast! 🤣
This crap is nowhere even close to the books
@@Jamie-ff1zm Then my suggestion to you would be not to watch. No point in putting yourself through something you find unpleasant when there are so many other things to do with one's time.
All the actors in this series knock it out of the park. The writers are doing amazing as well. Both get the essence of who the characters are. Love it.
I've probably watched 6 reactions to this episode and I still gasp at Uno and sob at the end. My daughter is around the age of the little girl and it feels like my own heart is ripped out every time. So deeply affecting.
Her bursting forth from the arch with empty arms really hurts. I don't have any kids but we tried for years and her acting really hits. It definitely underscores just how barbaric the Aes Sedai are with there need for suffering. It's such an old-school way of looking at "training" and they highlight it perfectly with the repeated "your grief is your own" line. Heartless, cruel, but institutionally so.
I’m still mad The Green Man wasn’t in Season 1.
Was the dream of Selene a "dream" [flat stare] or a "dream" [wriggles eyebrows]???
me too, compelling TV. Best yet. Great reaction.
Thank you!
I'm not a book reader, but I really appreciate the way you did this review. I didn't feel left out at all. I am loving this season, and who knows, maybe after it's over it will be time for me to finally read the books (I also subscribed...am looking forward to Friday)
I did the same thing. I kept saying be steadfast and my husband kept looking at me like what are you doing?? I’m like it’s such a small line. It’s ok that it’s not there. I don’t know why it bugged me so much that it wasn’t lol!! That episode was definitely the most intense!! I can’t wait to see what they do next!!
I think it’s because it was kind of drilled into us in the books throughout more than one test lol
I agree with your assessment that this is the best episode yet. And it clearly shows that season 1 was setting up seasons 2 and 3. As a book reader, I knew that Nynaeve was coming back but it had been long enough to I couldn't remember the details. I also believe that Elaine is ta'veren.
Funny, your face, when you realize its a dream 😂❤ like mine😮😅
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I think I said be steadfast as many times as you did 😂. Seems weird they cut that one tiny dialogue out lol
Really excited for the rest of the season. Episode 4 is called "Daughter of the Night", just saying! 😲
That final scene gets me every time 😢 such great acting.
I'm absolutely loving this season so far 👌
After watching the first 3 episodes, Season 2 is SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST!! (And i liked season 1) I LOVE all of the decisions they made! I am actually kinda digging the surprises. This FEELS like WoT to me now.
Things that made my fangirl heart squee:
1. Legit, all of the tower stuff.
2. ELAYNE!!!! Omg, she's PERFECT! Brava Ceara Coveney
3. THE ACCEPTED TEST, yes, different... but I loved it.
4. VERIN SEDAI! I was surprised that they combined Verin and Vandene, but I'm here for it.
5. Adeleas. She's the Aes Sedai representation of thirst I didn't know I needed.
6. Elyas looks FANTASTIC.
7. The Seanchan are properly terrifying.
8. It may not have happened in the books, but I am HERE for Mat and Min adventure time.
9. RAND'S. RED. COAT.
10. Interesting direction for Rand, but I can see that they're lining everyone up to be where they're supposed to be for things to come. Also, SELENE IS HOT AF...AS SHE SHOULD BE.
11. Darkfriend Social
12. FADE FIGHT, BRO!!!!
There's more. I really like how they're adapting it.... and you can tell they have an eye on the WHOLE story instead of just seasons.
Agreed with ALL OF THIS
Crazy that now we're just "Wheel of Time die hards"
When I was in high school reading these 25 years ago, the term was just "nerd" 😂
I love these reactions :D So exciting every time i see a new episode!!
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I'm so in love with Elayne and Mat. The casting is amazing! I liked Barney but this Mat is 100* better. Also, your not alone #Randfear loving it. I think it adds depth to what happens at the end of fires of heaven on the docks. It makes Moiranes letter to Rand bare more weight on the different outcomes. It also makes her crazy jealousy make sense in that part. I really enjoy it. Also why is Masema so Hot 🥵🔥🥵🔥
Hotsema is going to be a real problem lol
Great reaction 😊 I’ve read the series almost on repeat for years. Most nights Michael Kramer reads me to sleep. There were problems with the first season (still enjoyed it), but I’m loving this season so far!
Yeah, the ending of episode three was brutal.
Episode 3 was easily the best episode of the show so far. Zoe Robbins is a powerhouse!! I think the way they did her Test was better than in the book, we got SO much Nynaeve characterisation here. Notice that in the third arch, the doorway appeared right as she was agreeing to go with Lan to the Two Rivers. This clearly tells us that of everything in her third test, what she's really afraid of is giving up. She'll pretend to hate it in the Tower and she does hate the Aes Sedai, but after seeing what the One Power can do to heal people, she's terrified of failure. She's scared that her block will never go away, and she'll 'throw away' this chance to really be a Wisdom and help people through healing. Brilliant stuff! If the rest of season 2 is similar in quality to this episode, I'll be ecstatic.
My thoughts exactly was that the "sex" scene was a dream created by Lanfear to make Rand channel.
"All Nynaeve All the Time!"
Oh my god... I had no idea what that branding was about! It's hunters, of course! I'm an idiot!
CAT!
Love how they are adding beats from the books, just in different circumstances. It makes it fresh and yet still familiar. But Uno was done wrong, dangit! That was brutal, which unfortunately is good character development for the Seanchan, but... Uno! 😭😭😭
Leane isnt wearing ear pieces. Those are giant needles piercing her ears through multiple points.
Aka Bobby pins 😜
Liked and subscribed! I'm only a few books ahead of the TV show, so I'm fascinated to see how they adapt them and weave in later plot threads. There's so much material in the books, they obviously have to leave out a ton in order to squeeze it into 8 hours of TV, but at least we had a nod to Aludra and the illuminators. Plus they had to deal with unexpected issues like Barney leaving the show partway through S1, meaning they had to write a whole new storyline for Mat...
Poor Uno - especially as the actor's wife plays the Voice of Lady Suroth, that must have been kinda brutal on set! But I'm also a fan of Greg Chilingirian (thanks to Da Vinci's Demons), so I'm excited to see how they deal with Ingtar. I love conflicted characters who do bad things for what seems like good reasons!
Book readers - In the Trolloc attack during Nynaeve's test (16:22 of this video specifically), look closely at Mat's wounds. 😉
I knowwww ahhhhhhhh!!!
Love your reactions! This one got *intense*.
I think the Seanchan guard picked Uno to swear the oaths first specifically because he was defiant; seems to me "pick the fighty one, who will refuse to swear, then brutally kill him and watch the crowd fall in line" might be standard Seanchan practice. 😬
I've seen a theory on tumblr that *Sheriam* sabotaged Nynaeve's test, and I like it a lot. Liandrin was very invested in getting a hold on Nynaeve as part of her faction, and she did seem upset about things not going as planned (though I'm reluctant to take anything with her at face value). Sheriam, though... sabotaging especially powerful novices seems like it might even be in her (secret) job description, and she clearly doesn't like Liandrin's "cabal" intruding on her territory and trying to force a promotion.
One of many sisters of a certain kind who will catastrophically underestimate Nynaeve al'Meara.
Im loving this season so far. I liked the first season even if covid really hurt the final episodes. Your reactions are so good. I love your subtle book hints. Cant wait to watch your reviews for the previous episodes.
Rafe said about this season that fans shouldn't get too comfortable with their faves having plot armor. Love your reactions! I've read the books several times, but I'm just letting Rafe tell the story he wants to.
The issue is that most people don’t want Rafe to tell his own story. They want him to tell RJ’s story.
@@thenerdyarab7622 must be nice to speak for the masses with such confidence. Writing a line for line adaptation of a 15 book series for a television series that will last 8 seasons IF WE’RE LUCKY is impossible. Rafe is adapting RJ’s works. And he’s doing it in a super entertaining way IN MY OPINION (see how I didn’t assume I speak for everyone there?)
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THIS! I’m instantly suspicious of anyone who claims to know what “most” people think.
@@KritterXDthere are ways to get closer to the books with out changing so much. Of course there needs to be changes but I feel Rafe has diverged too much at this point. We shall see how he pulls it all together.
I absolutely love your reaction videos! I’m also loving S2. Talked my husband, who hasn’t read the books and didn’t watch S1, into watching the new season. He’s hooked. I read the books after watching the first season and started my reread soon after. I’m now a die-hard WoT fan. I’ve never been a die-hard fan of any book series before. Never been into the fantasy genre. This story has totally captured my imagination.
Each episode keeps stepping it up! They seriously established the Seanchan as absolutely horrific with how they treated Uno. I can't even imagine how Egwene's arc is going to hit if this is just like a small snippet of the Seanchan's brutality. And that Accepted test! I think this was even more powerful than the books! Can you imagine the trauma of having the memories of living at least 6+ years and having a child and family and then all gone in an instant?! I think the reveals in the next episode are going to ramp up the crazy and the stakes this season. Wow! The writing, editing, costumes, lighting, everything has been notched way up! The Longing between episodes is so real! I can't even imagine how bad the wait for S3 is going to be. At least we will have 16 episodes to rewatch and try to keep the Longing at bay!
I am pretty sure Nynaeve opened the portal herself. I am also glad they didn't go the nudity route. I fell for the test fake out!. This is easily my favourite episode, but gosh what a gut wrenching ending. . Finally, i completely agree zoe is amazing but can we speak about how perfect elayne is?. I enjoyed the reaction and look forward to more.
IIRC, in the book the portal came and then went and Nynaeve had to bring it back with the power, although the timescale involved was minutes or seconds rather than hours.
@@tonbokarasu2973 yup, I actually preferred the show version of the trial to be honest. It was very well done
Wish they had said "be steadfast" though!
I liked this channel and your perspectives
Loved this ep. Nynaeve's my fave character in the novels, but ZR's portrayal is so incredibly compelling that her version has replaced my headcanon. I think the writers and Zoë all have a very clear idea of who Nynaeve is and where she's going, and it shines through in every little microexpression and gesture and catch in her voice.
They really have nailed her. I love to see it. I didn’t like her much in the early books but I love her in the show!
That ending Oscar's worthy scene OMFG. Drinking my own tears.
Yelling BE STEADFASSSTTT is a whole fandom mood
"Chef's kiss", to borrow a phrase. If they keep ramping up at this pace, it's gonna get crazy. And, I'm here for it. Now, I'm a little surprised you didn't notice it but, Nynaeve channeled while in the arch world, they told her she couldn't do that. Of course she is the strongest channeler in 1000 years. Wonder what else she will do that they say can't be done.😉😊
Mat leaving his cell without a moments thought for releasing Min was a bit off. If you're stuck in a cell for months and find a companion that person would be pretty important to you.
Zoe for the acting win again! Nynaeve and Liandrin, my favorite show characters,... Who'da thunk it!
There's some people hate this show and some people love this show and they both books reader
Haha you said "be steadfast" just like I did. Maybe Uno could become a hero of the horn?
That’s what I’m hoping for!!
I made the same face at the Uno scene 😢😵
Also running theory at my house is Nyneave channeling in the arch where she "can't channel" brought the gateway back
I love these reactions❤. It’s almost as good as watching the series😂. Will you post an analysis video on the episodes?
That’s the plan! We also get pretty deep into the episodes on the Wheel & Chill show on this channel every Monday night. The VODs for that are available on my Wheel & Chill playlist!
WTF Logain?? That's alcohol abuse!
Now kiss😂😂😂
NOW KISS 😁
According to someone who watched ep4 early, it is apparently a transitional episode where not much happens except one or two major twists that will shock the viewer
I wasn't unduly bothered by Uno's death. As far as the plot goes he's a throw away character.
That final scene broke me
I can't stop thinking about Liandrin's "we lost a sister this morning." after Nynaeve doesn't come out of the arches. Was that a lie? She wouldn't consider her a sister yet just a child. Nynaeve is not even an exapted before she passes the test. Was this a mistake by the writers or was she referring to a totally different sister?
Liandrin cannot lie. She probably meant an "aspiring" sister vs a "full" sister (Aes Sedai).
I never would have guessed that they would kill Uno like this. But I kind of like the changes from the books, because I never know what will happen in theTV series even though I’ve read the books. “Well, he’s cool, Uno doesn’t die here in the books /…/ AAAH, They killed him!!!😮😮😮”
I HATE that they killed him but it was also SUCH a great moment in the show so it’s sometimes tough being a book reader out here lol. I really do love being surprised tho 🥰
Yes, I hate that they killed him too! But I love that I can’t expect to know what will happen in the show. It has all the feel and of course important plot lines of the books, but is unexpected enough to make me feel like I’m discovering WoT for the first time again.
Pretty much what you said in the end of the video, I just realised as I was watching it again while typing😊.
I love how each episode got better and better, imo. I’m watching this with keeping in mind that it’s just a loosely based adaptation of the books, and I’m honestly loving this season way more than the first. There’s more book Easter Eggs, the visuals (the color of the weaves & the look of how the power is used) is absolutely stunning and a huge step up. The actors seem to be more experienced and I’m just loving it honestly. People need to understand there’s going to be vast changes because it’s NECESSARY… We may not always agree or like them, but the writers are thinking in terms of creating a show for an audience that’s mostly unaware of the books, and must work within 8 hour seasons, for 8 seasons, to cover 14 (15) novels. Deal with that fact and all the book lovers who hate on the show might just start to enjoy it a bit. I’m a die hard, but I like the show too. This is waaaay better then Legend of the Seeker doing Sword of Truth 💯!
My opinion, Lan/Moirane is a little too intense and missing the subtleness. Cairhien/Seanchan is awesome and I love the story lines but I hope we still get Lan training Rand and Fain. It seems like they gave the wolves Hurin's power, that's what the seeing "visions" is, I really wish they didn't do that, but since its there I'm interested to see how they handle it. Liandrin stuff is very jarring, I hope they arent getting rid of Elaida.
Everything in the white tower is perfect. Min and Matt is great, Egwene and Elaine AAAAAH and holy smokes that test!
Its been a really long time since i read the books, i take it the last test didnt go like that? So what's going to happen the next time she sees Lan? She lived this whole life with him & he's still going to be the stoic "we can't be together". (I do remember that as with the books, I'm a bit more interested in what the women are up to than the men 😂)
"Be Steadfast!" 😂 that was exactly my reaction!
Wondering if they named Atuan's Mill after "The Tombs of Atuan" by leGuin.
I thought the same thing!
Did you notice Matt's eye in the arch?
WOULD IT HAVE KILLED THEM TO HAVE HER SAY "BE STEADFAST"??
Uno. Damn. That image will be etched in my brain for life.
I just realized watching this how badly Mat has been burned. (Liandrin, however magnificent Kate Fleetwood is, your eventual downfall will be such a pleasure to watch.) One of the only things I really loved about S1 was that Mat was deeply empathetic. He was beautiful with his sisters. One of the other EF5 was hurting? Here comes Mat to do whatever it takes to make them smile. Everyone's riding along all droopy and glum? Mat looks around, sees the state of them, and starts a singalong. So Mat coming up on Egwene sobbing her heart out - and *walking*away* ... that hurts in so many directions. I hope he never finds out Min was playing him even a little. Stop hurting Mat!
I like how the score sounds like a siren while Rand is channeling, just before he wakes up.
Light, this is so good.
Was that “THE FALCON” perhaps getting branded. Female Hunter of the Horn…🤔
I'm loving this season so much. Can't wait for next episode. Greetings from Chile ❤
Ahh hello!
Uno is coming back as Gaidal Cain
Zoe is the daimond actor of this show.
Ooofff that last scene hits hard!!
RIP Be Steadfast.
Why did the last arch show up twice? Was the second one able to open up because she was able to channel?
It feels like the first time reading the books but better, the knowing but not knowing at the same time 😊
I feel you on the 'Be Steadfast', I was like it is two words and they give plenty of dead air, they could of said it. That Uno death was brutal, like next level.
10:00 "The book cover for The Great Hunt"... wasn't that more of a red tunic or something 😅? BUT... this definitely looks like the coat from the cover of A Memory Of Light to me ! I got major late-series vibes from Rand in that episode, I loved it 😋
Why do people keep saying it is another turning of the wheel? That would imply that people are reincarnated in the same families at the same time with the same name all over the world. I never got that impression from the books. Yes, when Rand used the portal stones to travel to Toman Head he had many visions of living different lives as himself but I didn't think they were showing different turnings. Just different possibilities for this life. Did anyone else see these as actual lives lived and different turnings?
It was used by Brandon Sanderson to prep book readers for changes in the show. It is not a lore thing. Just a mental thing.
A different turning of the wheel.
Masema, I knew I recognised him as Sihtric from the Last Kingdom!
Agree, not sure why they did not add “Be Steadfast”
I think it's because the book readers will know it (and be saying it in their heads) and for regular show watchers, it's already pretty repetitive/doesn't add much to the scene.
@@iluvtododrawrings part of ritual is repetition, that said it would have been an easy add that did not lengthen the runtime and a nod to the books. I enjoy the adaptation, but also enjoy looking for the Easter eggs.
The third test fake out had me pissed until the reveal.
I don't understand the decision to kill Uno. I know they wanted an impactful death, but Uno was pretty prominent later on...bodyguarding for Nynaeve, helping Bashere train heavy cavalry in Andor. And he's just a lively character. Who is going to get Nynaeve in to see Masema now?
I read an interview that they wanted to show us that people we like can die. Kind of so many shows have done this since the first season of Game of Thrones. I remember one of my favorite characters on Bones dying (Sweet) and when I read it was because of this I was so angry.
I think if a show, whose story is already written, WoT, they better be thinking how it affects everything until the end. Stilling Moraine. Killing Uno. Whatever that was in the last episode of season 1 where they appeared to kill like 5 of the long lived characters- then just ignored it in the first episode of 2. (Seriously, what was that???)
I understand they want to show something but some of this is to shock book readers. If we haven't formed a real relationship with the character, killing them doesn't tell any non-book reader anything. And sometimes it alters the story in ways that don't appear to show that the show runners know what they are doing.
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If Moraine can't channel then how is she to have her place amount the wise ones? Are they going to speed Nyneave's arc this much faster? Have they thought what that means to the story? How will it affect Moraine's fight with Lanfear and the shock we have when she is rescued from the tower and so much weaker when we have already seen her stilled? Why do they want to change all these character arcs? What is their plan?
I guess I still don't trust them. I have waited all these years to see this story brought to screen. When changes are made that are so drastic, it makes me worried.
Things like the Seanchan kidnapping girls, that isn't a change from the books. It is what I expected and hoped they would do. Bring things we know were happening to the screen to illustrate who the Seanchan are. Killing Uno wasn't necessary. The scene was already horrific.
@@kirielbranson4843The first "season" of Game of Thrones is heavily based on the book. Otherwise it wouldnt be good. It came as a shock for non-readers, which implies to all adaptations. Nobody wants random illogical deaths, only if their purpose is to be random/surprising
@@kirielbranson4843 The reason Uno was a character they picked to establish that was because, unlike what the OG comment here is trying to say, Uno really was not a prominent character at all. He’s wonderful, and one of my favorite supporting characters, but anyone can do what he does in the books and a show with only so many episodes is going to have to kill people off in the grand scheme of things, and also combine/cut some out. There’s no other way to make it work when there’s literally hundreds of named characters in the books.
@@sethzarandona2325 Yses, anyone could do what Uno did, but it won't be as interesting.
@@sethzarandona2325 there are tons of characters and even main character plot lines that can be removed and still tell the story. For example I wouldn't be surprised if they removed much if not all of the Tanchicho story and move up the meeting of a particular character to a different location and time. It wouldn't be a change I questioned or disagreed with. Uno's death just came a little too early in the show - 11th episode after some other changes, some mentioned, that leave me untrusting that the show runners aren't writing their own story. You are right that Uno's story is not important enough to be considered a "fixed event" borrowing a phrase from Doctor Who. It will take a very talented and devoted team of writers to pare down the books to keep the meat and get rid of the fat. And to add seasoning that keeps the same story while showing us stuff not in the books. Such as watching Seanchan kidnapping the channelers. I just don't yet trust them to do this after seeing what happened with the Witcher. And seeing Moraine stilled.
Linguistic guestion/ Falm, falme, or falmA?
I always used to say Falm-uh but I guess I’m assimilating because I think I said Falm here lol
I live in the South not a Texan or southern accent. No slur as the books describe
The fireworks pissed me off so much. It’s such a major part of the Matt plot line and the movement toward a fourth age. Now it’s ruined.
They do some things right and you feel a glimmer of hope, then they go and stick uno's head in a spike like that
Unfortunately, the realities of film (tv) production (money) necessitate the murder of certain characters sooner rather than later. GOT had to do the same, iirc.
@firstlast-oo1he nah they ain't lacking money, and budget isn't even the biggest problem an adaptation can have imo. They just felt like changing it, and to be honest, it did work better than most season 1 changes
Definitely a dream. I love it that you-know-who is walking in Rand's wet dream.
I am continually impressed by how easily impressed book fans are by this travesty of a show.
Memberberries! I read a thing in the book and they mention it in the show!!
Lets ignore the butchering of so much of the story and characters and world etc. etc. I recognise a thing!!
No, no, no, no, stop it with the cop out of its another turning of the Wheel. If that was the case, by book lore, everyone should have different names, locations wouldn't have the same names, etc...
That said, this may have been my least favorite episode of the series so far. While I'll agree that it's nice to see nods to book material appearing in the show, in most cases, it's presented horribly, in my opinion. Take, for example, Rand burning the invite. This was a major subplot in the book, spanning multiple chapters with a coherent set-up. In the show, it's essentially a throw-away line. Whereas in the book, Nynaeve has a throw-away line about learning the sword from warders and receives an entire scene in the show based around that.
As for Nynaeve, if the show actually respected the source material, she's dead. In the book, during her third arch test, the portal does fade away, temporarily, before she focuses on bringing it back. But notably, there were Aes Sedai standing outside the arch, keeping it active when she did this. In the show, most a day (if not longer) has passed since the Aes Sedai stopped channeling into the arch. There's no possible way Nynaeve should be able to open the portal. Furthermore, no one but her should even be aware of it. This was nothing more than the writers giving Nynaeve a third fake out death scene. At this point, it's just lazy writing.
As for Rand, meh, complete meh for every scene he's in. He and Selene crash a party of nobles, how? He talks to Logain, who should be under constant guard by warders and Aes Sedai in the Tower, who sends him on a pointless errand. So yeah, meh.
Mat's character assassination continues. I feel like the writers despise the entire Cauthon family at this point.
Perrin and the Shienarians, they could have done this so much better. For example, they could have stumbled upon this village as the Seanchan attacked and subjugated it, while remaining out of sight. They could have witness the Seanchan demand an oath, kill those who refused, and collared women who could channel (which btw, the show can't even remain internally consistent. The damane is clearly sensing the ability to channel in these women, but when Nynaeve was surrounded by Aes Sedai in season 1, they either couldn't sense her ability to channel or pretended not to, I suspect the former). It's not until after the oath is given that Perrin and the Shienarians are spotted and during their forced retreat, Perrin and Elyas become separated from the group.
So go ahead, call me a book cloak, but most of my disdain for this season comes from the poor writing decisions and internal inconsistencies.
So they are really going GoT… sure let’s kill off great characters..
Logain seeing saidin around Rand in the first season is problematic. First of all male channelers can't tell if another man can channel if the other is not holding saidin and at that moment Rand wasn't. Lets say they changed that. He still shouldn't be able to see because at that point in the series (not in the books) he was gentled by Liandrin. In the books he sees ta'veren aura around Rand not the saidin. One of the important things that makes this book series unique is the magic system and strict rules that define it. They shouldn't change these basic things just for an easy narration
It's fully possible that this is a case of Unreliable Narrator. Logain THINKS the glow means the man can channel, but it's ACTUALLY just his Talent for seeing Ta'veren. It's not like it has been possible for Logain to study and learn all the different aspects of channeling the One Power. Half the drama throughout the books comes from characters believing something that turns out not to be true. Makes complete sense for that to be established in the show.
Unreliable narrator argument works for many cases but In this case he should have seen the same aura around Mat too and he would probably mention to Rand how amazed he was for seeing not one but two almost equal male channelers in Tar Valon. In the books Rand was alone but in the show they were sitting next to each other during the parade.@@jessiesarcasmwelcome5854
compered to S1 its better, compered to the books I like the show more. Plz dont make this show female driven (enought with the female superhumans doitall and knowitall, men are very significant to the wot universe).
How are you positive, not only positive, but essentially glorifying this, when Robert Jordan explicitly was against this? Disregard that even, this isnt even remotely the same material as the books, yet your comments here say imply it is? Its weird
I assume this is a troll comment, but, just in case, how can Robert Jordan be "explicitly against this"? He's dead and has been dead since long before they made the show.
They spent all that money to completely screw up the story to the point it is unrecognizable as the book series. They changed too many things that will not work later in the story. Was it necessary to make Moraine and Siuan lesbians? I really tried to like this but i loved the books too much to make that possible
First of all, yes it was perfectly necessary to make them lesbians because they were literally a thing in the prequel novel and it was written off in a homophobic “Lesbians Until Graduation” thing and if making them a proper lesbian couple bothers you THIS much, that’s your personal problem.
Second, why are you even here? Move on.
It's always up to some interpretation... like I think Siuan gave off more of a bi-vibe vs full on lesbian. Light be with you.
Me and my friends that have read the books are only watching it cuz its fun to shit on how poorly adapted it is. At this point it only shares a setting. Do y'all actually enjoy it, or are you just trying to appreciate whats likely to be the only adaptation we are gonna get in our lifetimes?
Sounds like a scenario that would make it difficult to enjoy the parts you might have enjoyed.
Did you not get excited about seeing Myrddraal disappearing into shadows and reappearing? Loial going Beast Mode? Matt showing his characteristic sense of humor? Hearing "Selene" threaten to kill Rand if he ever leaves her like that again?...I could go on.
Yes, there are choices in Season 2 that I'm not fond of, but it's MILES better than Season 1, and yes I'm very much enjoying it. And yes, I'm a hard core book fan, having read the full series many times and the early books at least 20 times each since 1994.
It's far from perfect, but by allowing myself to finally accept the fact of how impossible their task is, I'm able to really love the ways in which it actually is very much The Wheel of Time.
@@ryadinstormblessed8308 Lan was neutered, he didn't win a single fight lol the myrdraal were overshadowed by moraine forgetting she has a brain in the first place. I'm not a fan of their Selene in general, lanfear would never pretend to be a hooker lolol. Loial was never the Hulk, he fought with an axe. Myrdraal look alright, I'll give it that, but theyre simultaneously no where near as strong as the books and way stronger, but only when they fight Lan haha dream Lan didn't even get any love 😂
Edit: they have Amazon money and this is what they came up with? They had the money to do the impossible, they chose to not even try
@@blamberton7893 Did I miss something? Why would you think Lanfear is a hooker? She apparently went undercover as an innkeeper in the Foregate to get her fingernails into Rand, her reincarnated ex-boyfriend. I assume we will get the details of Lanfear being freed and setting up her trap for Rand in episode 4, since it is titled "Daughter of the Night".
@@devlin76 you did miss something, the tv show lanfear is an escort paid by rand, she talks about her other clients.
@@blamberton7893 I am pretty sure you got it backwards. Rand is paying Lanfear with sex for his lodgings in "her" inn. Since Rand burned down the inn, we will see how they talk about it in the next episode. I suspect Lanfear will effortlessly weave guilt for taking away her livelihood into the manipulation.