One thing I like about your video you are not speaking to fast and you speak clearly. And you don't play music and no grate production intro you just get on with it. For me that's good. Well done for helping me.
thanks for the awesome video the internet has needed something like this for a while I know I just switched from multiwii to Naza 32 and your videos made it very simple thanks again
Thx a lot for this presentation. It really helped to get a nice and quick overview and summed thinks up in a very good way. For foreigners (I'm from germany) the pace of speak was excellent - thanks a lot!
Fantastic presentation, this is why I subscribed. Loved the Venn diagram, pictures paint a thousand words! Hopefully you will update us with your view on FC's at least annually. Many thanks for your time on this.
I sure coulda used this video 6 months ago :) Well done, though. I definitely learned some new things. I think I'll stick to my naze32 boards for now, but if I'm ever building something different, I'll refer to this video to consider my options...well, as long as we can still can LiPo's here in the states at a reasonable price. I have a feeling we're about to get screwed even further in this hobby over here
I haven't tried them all but having tried CC3D, PowerCube, Flip32(naze) 1. The CC3D never gave me the same ESC calibration twice and was unable to load cleanflight on it so never got it off the ground. 2. Powercube was a really clean build. love the format. Doesn't have a barometer and can't use MINIMOSD and the PowerCore for onscreen is totally lame. Flight modes are very aggressive. Good board but I want ALTHold 3. Flip32, easy setup, worked flawlessly and OSD was easy, ALTHOLD is great, on Angle mode it is PERFECT for a beginning pilot. So this is the one I fly now. Having seen the capability of APM, I ordered one. Can't wait!
+goofyfoot2001 Thanks for the comment, if I may make a few comments too - 1) If you want CF, I'd always use a Naze32 or clone, or even better a STMF3 based FC. 2) PowerCube is all about the racing so not a surprise. Things like the KISS don't either. There are better choices if you want those modes. 3) Glad you've found one that worked for you (see point one ;). Happy flying!
Thank you your videos are so helpful. I bought an Eachine ARF quad but it was put together and soldered so poorly that I had to Replace the flight controller, and esc signal wires, But Its finally up and flying well.
Thanks for all your videos - very helpful when I started with the original Pixhawk!!! This comparison was expensive: growing demand for a new FC :-) (Pixracer)
The NAZE32 is heavily underrated! With the NAZE32 Rev.6 7DOF board, which costs $18, you have a barometer on board. As with Rev.6 SCL and SDA contacts have moved now from the board to pins, one can easily add a GPS and an external compass. And then your are absolutely ready for GPS flying and GPS modes.With the iNAV Firmware, which was mentioned in the video, one can do all GPS modes, like RTH (including Auto Landing), Altitude Hold, Position Hold and Waypoint Navigation using the EZGui ground Software and an Android tablet or cellular. Conclusion: With Rev.6 the NAZE32 became absolutely competitive with the APM or PIXHAWK FC concerning GPS modes. The only deficiency in the moment is that in waypoint navigation the waypoints are stored in the volatile memory of the NAZE32 and not in non volatile memory. But that will be changed soon with the iNAV Firmware.
+Juergen Stremmler , you should really give some of the GPS modes on the NAZE32 a try. Other than providing GPS information on OSD, it is unreliable for position hold or RTH. It could be that the electronics are pack too tightly together in a small quad, causing interference. Maybe an external compass would solve the problem. I would not trust the RTH to bring my quad back.
+Juergen Stremmler , were you actually able to connect external mag to SCL and SDA? I did connect the following combo: www.readytoflyquads.com/mini-ublox-m8n-gps-w-35x35mm-mounting-backplane-and-compass cleanflight shows that all looks good, compass seems to react to yaw (north is not quire there) Naze however will not ARM in this configuration and i suspect this maybe issue with all external mags connected to naze acro (my old setup had identical issue). In general i think the issue with Naze and GPS is all about getting the external compass working (i haven't seen anyone on-line reporting any success with it). Without a reliable compass GPS hold and RTH simply wont work (as painless360 demonstrated i one of his videos). Naze32 full comes with built in mag which due to its location on the board and all the electro-magnetic forces flying around is just an expensive waste of real estate :) cheers, -m.
+HLMAX I talked about Rev.6 of NAZE32 and 7DOF !!!! with only barometer on the board and iNAV 1.01 firmware!!! It allows safe waypoint navigation, safe RTH, safe PosHold. And of course, because 7DOF has no compass on board you'll need a comined external compass and UBLOX M8N GPS which you can buy for $19.90 at banggood. And last but not least Rev.6 of NAZE32 has SCL and SDA connections (you need for connecting an external compass) on pins !! So you don't have to solder anymore to connect the external magnetometer. And as the board itself does not have a magnetometer theier are no interference problems.
+mkolesnik 7DOF has no compass and no magnetometer on the board!!!! SDA and SCL are with Rev. 6 on pins. So the only thing you have to do is to install iNAV 1.01 firmware and connect the external compass to SDA and SCL pins of the NAZE Rev.6 DOF 7 board!
+Juergen Stremmler hi juergen. I missed the part that we are talking about 7dof. I wasn't able to find any information about it. what is it if you don't mind? what's the difference between naze32 Rev 6 acro and naze32 Rev 6 7dof?
Thank you for all your videos. They are all very informative. Splendid!!! I'm new in the Quad racing build and still learning about the Naze32 flight controller. From my understanding, there's a new Naze32 Rev.6, but this is where it confuses me. There is a Rev6A and a Rev6B....... 6A doesn't have the diode and 6B does have the diode. They say if you connect your ESCs to the Rev6A board (w/o diode), it might ruin your ESCs. Unlike Rev6B board (w/diode), it will not ruin the ESCs. What diode are they talking about? Please shed some light. Apologies for such a long question. Thank you kindly in advance. Really appreciate for your help.
+Charlie Bronson We've not used a Naze32 here since Rev5. For Cleanflight/Betaflight we use a more capable STM32F3 board now. Sorry we can't shed more light on it.. Best of luck.
Great video. Thank you for the comparison. Are the boards with a F3 processor better than an F1? In general a newer processor for pc, tablets, etc gives a better experience because of the computational speed gains. But how does is compare to an RC model's FC?
+Rodrigo G. Generally speaking, the newer boards have more memory, faster processors, more I/O ports and better sensors. With some of the older boards developers are looking at what they can sacrifice to still fit in their smaller memories and capabilities. If you want all the latest toys in firmware and a board that isn't going to be running a LITE version of your favourite flight code then F3 is a safer bet. Hope that helps.
hi. OHH Great one .As usual love the input.But i was wondering have you ever played with the Zero UAV yS-X6 or X4 .I have played with most described in the video and totally agree with you .I have had the YS-X6 for a while.its a good tool,would love to hear your thoughts.anyway Thanks for all your input ,my memory aint so clever but you always bring it back.Many thanks......
Hi painless, I cannot find a genuine fc that doesnt cost me less than the shipping (Im from Spain), the thing is Banggood just started to sell the Sparky 2.0 and it is the original one, you know, it is a F4 board which is very tentative, but there is no much info and reviews about this fc. Have you heard about it? Or do you have any opinion? Thanks for the video btw.
your videos are the best! according gps features.. im using naze32(baseflight) rth with great success the miniquad allways returns above home point, but only in ideal weather with a mild breeze its not reliable,it looses orientation and drifts away i have a second naze32 rev5 on the way,and im thinking of cleanflight for this one are in cleanflight p.hold and rth features better?
+John Kodolemos GPS modes in all of the 'flights are EXPERIMENTAL (their caps not mine ;) Until the iNav fork finishes the new GPS code this will be the case.. Best of luck..
what flight controller could I use to program routines I have an Pixhawk and a APM, the APM its easy to program since its Arduino base, Pixhawk (I dont undertand the board) its easy to modify the data with the mission planner. Another question: Do you plan on explain how the pixhawk work in the program and what you can program in it, and HOW. Tanks for the videos.
+Luis AVC We only deal with the use of the boards as a pilot and builder. If you are interested in 'getting under the covers' on the code then we can't help. Best of luck..
is there any cables that i need to buy? like the pigtail for the battery? that's the only thing that i am wondering atm. i am so hyped about getting into the hobby!
Hello I have a quiestion witch is better between the Pixhawk and the Deluxe SP Racing F3, I'm assuming the Pixhawk, do you think the SP racing F3 is very close to the Pixhawk? I'm trying to build a Octacopter for aerial video, photography an maybe Topography
If you want it for aerial video, photography an maybe Topography then for me it's a Pixhawk. So many of the other flight controllers/firmware have poor GPS support. Best of luck!
Thanks for the video. Do flight controllers come with voltage protection directly on the board? I want to switch motors and props and will also need to step up from a 4S to 6S LIPO and also don't want to fry the board. It's a BananaHobby RC RTF plane so i'm not sure of the exact FC used.
Some do, many don't. The flight controller runs of the 5v supply, it used to be that this was provided by the UBEC in the ESC but today lots of the ESCs don't have those inside so you need to use a separate UBEC. See our build series on the channel for more practical examples.. Best of luck!
Nice video as usual, but you have totally neglected the Eagle Tree Vector, which in the fixed wing FPV world, easily rivals the Pixhawk. It's also pretty solid on Quads, although I wouldn't consider it for a racing environment. I would also like to see you do a series on the vector. Thanks.
I building a quad for my wife. She wants to use it for air photography. What type of flight control board would you recommend. She wants the capability like the DJI. If i am not mistaking they use the wii board. Since I would be setting it up, I'am looking for user friendly boards. For example like the CC3D. Any suggestions?
+Eric Ankudavicius Depends if you want the ability to 'park' the model in the air using GPS. If not then the CC3D is a nice board, if you do then the PixRacer/Pixhawk is a better idea. Best of luck!
I'm part of a university team building an autonomous drone, unfortunately the Pix Hawk is huge and we have limited space. What do you think is the best flight controller for complete autonomy as of right now?
I started with the CC3D Evo 6dof, and it was junk. Once you got it in the air and tune it flew nice. but I could never get it to take off without the front right arm hanging down and then getting yaw glitchy as it started to level off. (yes i re-leveled it a zillion times and re-calibrated the ESCs more times than i can remember it would always have a glitchy take off.) I've heard of other people having issues with the CC3D. Maybe I just bad one, but I am still going to say it's not worth the money from my experience. I switched to a SPRacing F3 10dof, and it is amazing. It takes off like it should. The stock PIDs almost fly better than the CC3D did after tuning. I'm just loving this board. Where as the CC3D was nothing but headaches.
(SPRacing F3) One other thing, if you use the BlackBox feature a lot, you might want to use an external SD card addon. The internal memory won't log many flights, and it's really slow to pull the data off the board. I think it took me about 10 minutes to pull off 8 megs of BlackBox data.
Painless360 Oh now I find out =P I'm good on FCs for now. Now I need to upgrading my ESCs (and moving up to 4 cell) Leaning towards that RotorGeeks 20a. Any thoughts?
I want to start building my own quadcopter, so I'm really new at this. does every flight controller have a gyroscope/accelerometer, or do I have to add external?
+hilmi dwiputranto See our videos in the ' Introduction to Remote Control ' series. All of the ones in the video here has enough for flight. See our video on DOF for more detail. Best of luck with your build! We have a new series called ' Quadcopter building for beginners ' that you may find interesting too.
Sorry, we've not used that board but the setup will be the same as most of the F3 based flight controllers we've already looked at (with the exception of the pin positions of course). There does appear to be a few guides online, best of luck with it!
i have bad experience with apm and currently looking around for naze32 or multiwii for general flying .. for software looks like Cleanflight is very promising with simple configuration through chrome browser
i already saw that :) cool tutorial and very helpful. keep up the good work. I like board Naze32 10DOF Rev6 Full AfroFlight AbuseMark w/ Barometer Magnetometer and the price is quite reasonable
Will you be getting a LUX board, think it would be very handy for the rest of us, I have gone from a Naze32 rev 5 to rev 6 to the LUX , and I think the LUX is a better board
When we go to APM PID tune page on mission planner, there are some optional flight modes like " Alt hold kp, loiter kp, RTL kp.... " under the Optional channel 6. so please tell what are those modes??? what is the meaning of "kp" and can I use that Alt Hold kp mode like normal ALT hold flight mode??? Thanks
That was great . I am flying NAZA M v2 but am looking to build another maybe bigger than the F550 . It is hard to guess what to get when all of the better boards cost so much . I also had a bad experience with DJI's warranty , but I won't go into that . And DJI help does not know their own products , just let me say F550 works 1000 times better on 4S than the recommended 3S power system . All that said I want to try something else maybe the Pixracer/hawk set up . I do FPV to see what I am filming not to race so I want a board that can handle a large platform and has great GPS stability . There is a new board I am hearing a lot about the JYJI 2P does anyone know anything about it ?
i want to know to,,you posted 2 years ago,,what new have you learned,would like to know because im to start building my 1st and would loove to know wich 1 is the best for 550 or 680 size. thx
it's weird that the 8bit FC (Multiwii) beats most of the newer 32bit FC when it comes to features(Acro, Stability and GPS). I got three Walkera Runner 250 (MultiWii, CC3D and F3). It's fun to have that GPS feature and find out your GPS speed, Attitude and Altitude. But for most flight the CC3D and the F3 has the more "locked in" feel. Probably due to the processing speed.
+Ouel Hi Ouel, i have runner 250 (standard with Multiwii) too, with big problem, in stable mode after fast/hard bank turn drone rolls to opposite side and drifts for about 2-4 seconds, then it levels. Maybe you had this problem too and know how to solve it without changing FC? :)
+Tomas Jurkus - that is inherent with the design of the quad. it happens to all three of the model except the CC3D and the SPF3 responds faster which eliminates that 2-3 seconds drift that you're experiencing. Try banking a little deeper when you turn. I find the effect to go away when i do.
which FC should i choose if i'm a beginner to the whole rc world trying to make a vtol from scratch . I'm down tp kk2, pixhawk , ardupilot and apm. i need basically stable flight and fpv. If gps is there, great!!! also it'll help if it costs less.
Lee, can you give me a way to use two switches to produce 6 output levels in opentx. I use Hobby Eagle A3 Super 3 flight controller for fixed wing aircraft and they now recognize 6 flight modes on one channel. Thanks in advance for your help.
As we all know.. APM is a great board something I m still using.. But there is know any firmware update since last year.. in your video series you said that there was developing custom firmware for APM.. If there is a custom firmware that is better than original one.. Where can I find it??? Thanks
+Painless360 When we go to APM PID tune page on mission planner, there are some optional flight modes like " Alt hold kp, loiter kp, RTL kp.... " under the Optional channel 6. so please tell what are those modes??? what is the meaning of "kp" and can I use that Alt Hold kp mode like normal ALT hold flight mode??? Thanks
hai Iam using ZMR multiwii lite 0.2 version. I have problem in installing the configuration. I installed multiwii 2.0 software. Can you suggest which software is better.
Great job! Thank you for the comparison. I am hoping you can do a demo on the EMAX 4in1 with the Naze32 rev*..... Please do it so that we (NAZE32 users ) can learn from you.. :)
+itchy robot As we cover in the video - these are the ones that we have personal experience with.. ;)
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OK, thanks. But you really never picked up a NAZA? or a Graupner? Seems odd. Why not? They are very popular, far easier to add things on, more stable, work on any size or configuration of platform, have as many or more features, and they are quicker to set up than any of the FC boards you chose. I can't understand why you wouldn't have tried or at least checked out the NAZA or Graupner. If you think the boards in your video are good, you should definitely try them. They fit in the sweet spot in your diagram too... gives you and your viewers more choices :) Thanks again for another great video!
What goes into the making of a flight controller, especially the programming? I've wanted to do an arduino based drone for years, I eventually gave up on it a few years ago just because there was no information to be found unless you searched for literally hours. I want an arduino based drone for expandability, some reasons being experimental and I could just take it apart or modify it easily. I have no background in programming, and I'm a person that learns with my hands and by doing, so programming isn't really my thing. But is there any open sourced flight controller software that I could read and try to understand how they work?
Hi. Tank you for your videos. :D They are very helpful. I couldnt understand what platform you use instead of openpilot. Could you please share it to me? Tank you again
Do you have any blog or question forum? something like that? So that I can contact you there for my queries on autopilot systems. If there is any, please send me the link or whatever it may be.
Ok. I am making a quad with contra coaxial motors. We are going to attach a hovercraft to it. I want to know that which autopilot is available in the market for both the operations or we can use any board for hovercraft? So, do I need to have seperate autopilots for both? If not, how I can integrate both the functions in an autopilot?
Our thoughts are in this video really, depends on how you want to fly. For your application I'd suggest a FC that has excellent GPS and very stable flight. Something like a Pixhawk..
It is possible, when my drone lose gps signal, that my drone saves all route that it flight and with this route come back? sorry, i cant speak perfect english.
+Samil gülbaran that would depend on the software that you're running on the flight controller. The flight controller would still need a valid GPS signal in order to navigate back home and figure out where it was though.
I didn't know about Pixracer. Now as I am looking at it, I really like it and I will maybe put it in racer. Board that I like most is APM. It is easy to setup and it is stable. Despite that it still gives you place for experimenting, unlike naza. For racer, APM would be waste, but for basic flying and UAV it is best.
CC3D should have scored higher in the modes department. It is lacking in hardware modes but it sure gets it right when you want to configure flight modes. In the Google app configuration programs you are stuck with one set of rates across all stability modes. That sucks so bad. Not everybody thinks they are going to be the next racing champ, some want to shoot some video or simply go on a 'Sunday Drive' as it were. Yes technically you can changes rates on the fly with Cleanflight but I think you do it through some clunky stick combos. Really, during flight? Too bad the Libre pilot project seems to be stagnating in the hardware dept. I don't understand all the hate for that platform I think it's just not the 'IN' platform right now because all of you are going to win in Dubai, right?
Number one, the most menacing accent on the planet source of my grief; because of your voice I have a planet of people to endlessly discretely screw over...What can I do with this?..What can I do with this?
Please make a 2018 comparison video. Or at least, reply to my comment, about which is the best fpv flight controller of 2018. Thank you. I'm expecting your reply very soon. Love from india
+Chea Nakhim most Naze32 are clones now with varying quality, plus there are so many better faster more capable flight controllers out there now. I've not used a Naze32 for a few years..
This is what u call quality content.
One thing I like about your video you are not speaking to fast and you speak clearly.
And you don't play music and no grate production intro you just get on with it.
For me that's good.
Well done for helping me.
+Sylvanus Houseman Thanks for the comment, glad to know we've helped a little bit.. Happy flying!
thanks for the awesome video the internet has needed something like this for a while I know I just switched from multiwii to Naza 32 and your videos made it very simple thanks again
Excellent video, appreciate the effort to compare and contrast these various flight controllers. Well done and thank you!
Thanks for putting all infos together and the summarized presentation! Subscribed! Greetings from São Paulo!
Thx a lot for this presentation. It really helped to get a nice and quick overview and summed thinks up in a very good way. For foreigners (I'm from germany) the pace of speak was excellent - thanks a lot!
+Frantix85 thank you. Glad it helped. Happy flying!
Wow, thanks so much for the great information, exactly when I was needing it too... Thank you!
Love this video! it answers a lot of questions for me, thank you!!!
Excellent Lee - I have watched all your Controller videos and this summary was helpful.
I bought an apm 2.8 kit without knowing anything about it. I'm glad I did. I love it. I can't think of anything I would need it to do that it can't.
Fantastic presentation, this is why I subscribed. Loved the Venn diagram, pictures paint a thousand words! Hopefully you will update us with your view on FC's at least annually. Many thanks for your time on this.
+FrostbiteUK glad you like it. I'm sure others have different views on some of this, but this is ours..
I sure coulda used this video 6 months ago :) Well done, though. I definitely learned some new things. I think I'll stick to my naze32 boards for now, but if I'm ever building something different, I'll refer to this video to consider my options...well, as long as we can still can LiPo's here in the states at a reasonable price. I have a feeling we're about to get screwed even further in this hobby over here
I haven't tried them all but having tried CC3D, PowerCube, Flip32(naze)
1. The CC3D never gave me the same ESC calibration twice and was unable to load cleanflight on it so never got it off the ground.
2. Powercube was a really clean build. love the format. Doesn't have a barometer and can't use MINIMOSD and the PowerCore for onscreen is totally lame. Flight modes are very aggressive. Good board but I want ALTHold
3. Flip32, easy setup, worked flawlessly and OSD was easy, ALTHOLD is great, on Angle mode it is PERFECT for a beginning pilot. So this is the one I fly now.
Having seen the capability of APM, I ordered one. Can't wait!
+goofyfoot2001 Thanks for the comment, if I may make a few comments too - 1) If you want CF, I'd always use a Naze32 or clone, or even better a STMF3 based FC. 2) PowerCube is all about the racing so not a surprise. Things like the KISS don't either. There are better choices if you want those modes. 3) Glad you've found one that worked for you (see point one ;). Happy flying!
Another excellent video , full of useful information...thanks a lot
Thank you your videos are so helpful. I bought an Eachine ARF quad but it was put together and soldered so poorly that I had to Replace the flight controller, and esc signal wires, But Its finally up and flying well.
Well done! Happy flying!
Thanks for all your videos - very helpful when I started with the original Pixhawk!!! This comparison was expensive: growing demand for a new FC :-) (Pixracer)
The NAZE32 is heavily underrated! With the NAZE32 Rev.6 7DOF board, which costs $18, you have a barometer on board. As with Rev.6 SCL and SDA contacts have moved now from the board to pins, one can easily add a GPS and an external compass. And then your are absolutely ready for GPS flying and GPS modes.With the iNAV Firmware, which was mentioned in the video, one can do all GPS modes, like RTH (including Auto Landing), Altitude Hold, Position Hold and Waypoint Navigation using the EZGui ground Software and an Android tablet or cellular. Conclusion: With Rev.6 the NAZE32 became absolutely competitive with the APM or PIXHAWK FC concerning GPS modes. The only deficiency in the moment is that in waypoint navigation the waypoints are stored in the volatile memory of the NAZE32 and not in non volatile memory. But that will be changed soon with the iNAV Firmware.
+Juergen Stremmler , you should really give some of the GPS modes on the NAZE32 a try. Other than providing GPS information on OSD, it is unreliable for position hold or RTH. It could be that the electronics are pack too tightly together in a small quad, causing interference. Maybe an external compass would solve the problem. I would not trust the RTH to bring my quad back.
+Juergen Stremmler , were you actually able to connect external mag to SCL and SDA? I did connect the following combo:
www.readytoflyquads.com/mini-ublox-m8n-gps-w-35x35mm-mounting-backplane-and-compass
cleanflight shows that all looks good, compass seems to react to yaw (north is not quire there)
Naze however will not ARM in this configuration and i suspect this maybe issue with all external mags connected to naze acro (my old setup had identical issue).
In general i think the issue with Naze and GPS is all about getting the external compass working (i haven't seen anyone on-line reporting any success with it). Without a reliable compass GPS hold and RTH simply wont work (as painless360 demonstrated i one of his videos).
Naze32 full comes with built in mag which due to its location on the board and all the electro-magnetic forces flying around is just an expensive waste of real estate :)
cheers,
-m.
+HLMAX I talked about Rev.6 of NAZE32 and 7DOF !!!! with only barometer on the board and iNAV 1.01 firmware!!! It allows safe waypoint navigation, safe RTH, safe PosHold. And of course, because 7DOF has no compass on board you'll need a comined external compass and UBLOX M8N GPS which you can buy for $19.90 at banggood. And last but not least Rev.6 of NAZE32 has SCL and SDA connections (you need for connecting an external compass) on pins !! So you don't have to solder anymore to connect the external magnetometer. And as the board itself does not have a magnetometer theier are no interference problems.
+mkolesnik 7DOF has no compass and no magnetometer on the board!!!! SDA and SCL are with Rev. 6 on pins. So the only thing you have to do is to install iNAV 1.01 firmware and connect the external compass to SDA and SCL pins of the NAZE Rev.6 DOF 7 board!
+Juergen Stremmler hi juergen. I missed the part that we are talking about 7dof. I wasn't able to find any information about it. what is it if you don't mind? what's the difference between naze32 Rev 6 acro and naze32 Rev 6 7dof?
Thanks I finally got It going again . Keep up the good work 👍🏻
+Craig Waterworth glad you got it sorted!
subscribed because of this video, thank you so much!
Welcome to the channel! Check out the playlists for lots of videos organised by subject.. Happy flying!
What is the latest and greatest flight controller for 2018? Thank you!
Video all about that out on the 11 August. Stay tuned!
Thank you for all your videos. They are all very informative. Splendid!!! I'm new in the Quad racing build and still learning about the Naze32 flight controller.
From my understanding, there's a new Naze32 Rev.6, but this is where it confuses me. There is a Rev6A and a Rev6B....... 6A doesn't have the diode and 6B does have the diode. They say if you connect your ESCs to the Rev6A board (w/o diode), it might ruin your ESCs. Unlike Rev6B board (w/diode), it will not ruin the ESCs. What diode are they talking about? Please shed some light. Apologies for such a long question. Thank you kindly in advance. Really appreciate for your help.
+Charlie Bronson We've not used a Naze32 here since Rev5. For Cleanflight/Betaflight we use a more capable STM32F3 board now. Sorry we can't shed more light on it.. Best of luck.
Great video. Thank you for the comparison. Are the boards with a F3 processor better than an F1? In general a newer processor for pc, tablets, etc gives a better experience because of the computational speed gains. But how does is compare to an RC model's FC?
+Rodrigo G. Generally speaking, the newer boards have more memory, faster processors, more I/O ports and better sensors. With some of the older boards developers are looking at what they can sacrifice to still fit in their smaller memories and capabilities. If you want all the latest toys in firmware and a board that isn't going to be running a LITE version of your favourite flight code then F3 is a safer bet. Hope that helps.
i like the flash card method. im assuming my sparky II would be lobbed in with the F3-F4 FC.
dam great review
Well done!
Great informative video. Is there a reason that the CC3D Revo was left out of the Venn diagram?
Non at all. Happy flying!
hi.
OHH Great one
.As usual love the input.But i was wondering have you ever played with the Zero UAV yS-X6 or X4 .I have played with most described in the video and totally agree with you .I have had the YS-X6 for a while.its a good tool,would love to hear your thoughts.anyway Thanks for all your input ,my memory aint so clever but you always bring it back.Many thanks......
Hi painless, I cannot find a genuine fc that doesnt cost me less than the shipping (Im from Spain), the thing is Banggood just started to sell the Sparky 2.0 and it is the original one, you know, it is a F4 board which is very tentative, but there is no much info and reviews about this fc. Have you heard about it? Or do you have any opinion?
Thanks for the video btw.
We've not tried it yet. Cleanflight isn't yet supporting F4 boards (as far as I know) but it's all coming.. Best of luck!
your videos are the best!
according gps features..
im using naze32(baseflight) rth with great success
the miniquad allways returns above home point, but only in ideal weather
with a mild breeze its not reliable,it looses orientation and drifts away
i have a second naze32 rev5 on the way,and im thinking of cleanflight for this one
are in cleanflight p.hold and rth features better?
+John Kodolemos GPS modes in all of the 'flights are EXPERIMENTAL (their caps not mine ;) Until the iNav fork finishes the new GPS code this will be the case.. Best of luck..
what flight controller could I use to program routines I have an Pixhawk and a APM, the APM its easy to program since its Arduino base, Pixhawk (I dont undertand the board) its easy to modify the data with the mission planner. Another question: Do you plan on explain how the pixhawk work in the program and what you can program in it, and HOW. Tanks for the videos.
+Luis AVC We only deal with the use of the boards as a pilot and builder. If you are interested in 'getting under the covers' on the code then we can't help. Best of luck..
Which flight controller should I use to make huge and much stable having 80 kg weight
Pixhawk 2.1 would be my choice. See the s900 video..
is there any cables that i need to buy? like the pigtail for the battery? that's the only thing that i am wondering atm. i am so hyped about getting into the hobby!
quick reply, thanks!
amazing video for a newbie like me
Check the dates. This is a very old video and there are lots of newer, more relevant content.. Best of luck!
Hello I have a quiestion witch is better between the Pixhawk and the Deluxe SP Racing F3, I'm assuming the Pixhawk, do you think the SP racing F3 is very close to the Pixhawk? I'm trying to build a Octacopter for aerial video, photography an maybe Topography
If you want it for aerial video, photography an maybe Topography then for me it's a Pixhawk. So many of the other flight controllers/firmware have poor GPS support. Best of luck!
Thanks for the video. Do flight controllers come with voltage protection directly on the board? I want to switch motors and props and will also need to step up from a 4S to 6S LIPO and also don't want to fry the board. It's a BananaHobby RC RTF plane so i'm not sure of the exact FC used.
Some do, many don't. The flight controller runs of the 5v supply, it used to be that this was provided by the UBEC in the ESC but today lots of the ESCs don't have those inside so you need to use a separate UBEC. See our build series on the channel for more practical examples.. Best of luck!
Great video!
Nice video as usual, but you have totally neglected the Eagle Tree Vector, which in the fixed wing FPV world, easily rivals the Pixhawk. It's also pretty solid on Quads, although I wouldn't consider it for a racing environment. I would also like to see you do a series on the vector. Thanks.
+Tom Muhleman, Jr. But we've not used the Vector ;) This is based on ones we've actually used here...
I building a quad for my wife. She wants to use it for air photography. What type of flight control board would you recommend. She wants the capability like the DJI. If i am not mistaking they use the wii board. Since I would be setting it up, I'am looking for user friendly boards. For example like the CC3D. Any suggestions?
+Eric Ankudavicius Depends if you want the ability to 'park' the model in the air using GPS. If not then the CC3D is a nice board, if you do then the PixRacer/Pixhawk is a better idea. Best of luck!
what would you suggest for a aerial photography quad? how about the pixhark?
+itskano yep, pixhawk would be my first choice.
hey..can u explain the differen between single wire winding and multi wire winding for brushless motor..??
I'm part of a university team building an autonomous drone, unfortunately the Pix Hawk is huge and we have limited space. What do you think is the best flight controller for complete autonomy as of right now?
Oh I forgot to add that I was leaning towards the Pix Racer
Yep, PixRacer is the best bet when you want that power of great GPS flight modes and super stable flight but don't have the room - best of luck!
I started with the CC3D Evo 6dof, and it was junk. Once you got it in the air and tune it flew nice. but I could never get it to take off without the front right arm hanging down and then getting yaw glitchy as it started to level off. (yes i re-leveled it a zillion times and re-calibrated the ESCs more times than i can remember it would always have a glitchy take off.) I've heard of other people having issues with the CC3D. Maybe I just bad one, but I am still going to say it's not worth the money from my experience.
I switched to a SPRacing F3 10dof, and it is amazing. It takes off like it should. The stock PIDs almost fly better than the CC3D did after tuning. I'm just loving this board. Where as the CC3D was nothing but headaches.
(SPRacing F3) One other thing, if you use the BlackBox feature a lot, you might want to use an external SD card addon. The internal memory won't log many flights, and it's really slow to pull the data off the board. I think it took me about 10 minutes to pull off 8 megs of BlackBox data.
+Borg Quads the new SP3 Mini uses am SD card now.. Happy flying!
Painless360 Oh now I find out =P I'm good on FCs for now. Now I need to upgrading my ESCs (and moving up to 4 cell) Leaning towards that RotorGeeks 20a. Any thoughts?
We've not used them here - best of luck!
Howdy! :) Any opinion on the Bigaloe BGL-6G-AP? Thanks!
Not yet ;) We've not tried one and will try and make something similar with iNav, an SP3 board and a GPS in the New Year..
+Painless360 Groovy! (lol) I will be looking forward to it. ;) Thanks!
I want to start building my own quadcopter, so I'm really new at this.
does every flight controller have a gyroscope/accelerometer, or do I have to add external?
+hilmi dwiputranto See our videos in the ' Introduction to Remote Control ' series. All of the ones in the video here has enough for flight. See our video on DOF for more detail. Best of luck with your build! We have a new series called ' Quadcopter building for beginners ' that you may find interesting too.
thank you very much 👍👍🍺🍺❤️🙏
Just curious, but could you do a tutorial for the DTFC or maybe point me in the right direction for a guide? thanks!
Sorry, we've not used that board but the setup will be the same as most of the F3 based flight controllers we've already looked at (with the exception of the pin positions of course). There does appear to be a few guides online, best of luck with it!
Painless360 it's fine! just looking for a video tutorial of it
you should look at some of the boards by 1 Bit Squared and using the PaparazziUAV software.
+Dan Berry thanks for the suggestion..
i have bad experience with apm and currently looking around for naze32 or multiwii for general flying .. for software looks like Cleanflight is very promising with simple configuration through chrome browser
+Riki Risnandar See our series on the Naze32 for complete setup details.
i already saw that :) cool tutorial and very helpful. keep up the good work. I like board Naze32 10DOF Rev6 Full AfroFlight AbuseMark w/ Barometer Magnetometer and the price is quite reasonable
What's the way to go this days on a DIY phantom like quad?
If it's smooth video and GPS modes you're after. Use pixhawk.
Will you be getting a LUX board, think it would be very handy for the rest of us, I have gone from a Naze32 rev 5 to rev 6 to the LUX , and I think the LUX is a better board
+MrTaz0079 Thanks for the idea, we'll add it to the list..
When we go to APM PID tune page on mission planner, there are some optional flight modes like " Alt hold kp, loiter kp, RTL kp.... " under the Optional channel 6. so please tell what are those modes??? what is the meaning of "kp" and can I use that Alt Hold kp mode like normal ALT hold flight mode??? Thanks
+R A Dilan Darshana copter.ardupilot.com/wiki/ac_rollpitchtuning/ explains its use..
I have zmr 250 frame. I want to know which controllers, motors, ESC, pdb are suitable for the frame?
Please take a look at my quad build videos for idea of what I use. Best of luck!
That was great . I am flying NAZA M v2 but am looking to build another maybe bigger than the F550 . It is hard to guess what to get when all of the better boards cost so much . I also had a bad experience with DJI's warranty , but I won't go into that . And DJI help does not know their own products , just let me say F550 works 1000 times better on 4S than the recommended 3S power system . All that said I want to try something else maybe the Pixracer/hawk set up . I do FPV to see what I am filming not to race so I want a board that can handle a large platform and has great GPS stability . There is a new board I am hearing a lot about the JYJI 2P does anyone know anything about it ?
i want to know to,,you posted 2 years ago,,what new have you learned,would like to know because im to start building my 1st and would loove to know wich 1 is the best for 550 or 680 size. thx
it's weird that the 8bit FC (Multiwii) beats most of the newer 32bit FC when it comes to features(Acro, Stability and GPS). I got three Walkera Runner 250 (MultiWii, CC3D and F3). It's fun to have that GPS feature and find out your GPS speed, Attitude and Altitude. But for most flight the CC3D and the F3 has the more "locked in" feel. Probably due to the processing speed.
+Ouel Hi Ouel, i have runner 250 (standard with Multiwii) too, with big problem, in stable mode after fast/hard bank turn drone rolls to opposite side and drifts for about 2-4 seconds, then it levels. Maybe you had this problem too and know how to solve it without changing FC? :)
+Tomas Jurkus - that is inherent with the design of the quad. it happens to all three of the model except the CC3D and the SPF3 responds faster which eliminates that 2-3 seconds drift that you're experiencing. Try banking a little deeper when you turn. I find the effect to go away when i do.
which FC should i choose if i'm a beginner to the whole rc world trying to make a vtol from scratch . I'm down tp kk2, pixhawk , ardupilot and apm. i need basically stable flight and fpv. If gps is there, great!!! also it'll help if it costs less.
I'd direct you to the 'Quadcopter Building for Beginners' series we use the kit that's easy to get and go through every step.. Best of luck!
my project is multi rotor VTOL with FPV. Will the link you send have instructions for those ? thank you for the response.
+Vignesh Mj nope. Let me know if you figure it out! Best of luck!
Lee, can you give me a way to use two switches to produce 6 output levels in opentx. I use Hobby Eagle A3 Super 3 flight controller for fixed wing aircraft and they now recognize 6 flight modes on one channel. Thanks in advance for your help.
What should people use for a hexa drone thats able to carry persons
As we all know.. APM is a great board something I m still using.. But there is know any firmware update since last year.. in your video series you said that there was developing custom firmware for APM.. If there is a custom firmware that is better than original one.. Where can I find it??? Thanks
+R A Dilan Darshana i will share more when I get more detail..
Thank you so much
+Painless360 When we go to APM PID tune page on mission planner, there are some optional flight modes like " Alt hold kp, loiter kp, RTL kp.... " under the Optional channel 6. so please tell what are those modes??? what is the meaning of "kp" and can I use that Alt Hold kp mode like normal ALT hold flight mode??? Thanks
hai
Iam using ZMR multiwii lite 0.2 version.
I have problem in installing the configuration.
I installed multiwii 2.0 software.
Can you suggest which software is better.
+Sai Kumar Sorry, we've not used that board. We were using Multiwii 2.3 last time we played with one.. Best of luck.
So which one would be best for a beginner?
+Cam plays anyone that I've used in one of my 'Quadcopter building for beginners' series.. ;)
thankyou for the presentation
if you can kindly make some for
beginner
Check out the playlists on the channel, lots of them are aimed at the brand new beginner. Best of luck
@@Painless360 thank you sir
Great job! Thank you for the comparison. I am hoping you can do a demo on the EMAX 4in1 with the Naze32 rev*.....
Please do it so that we (NAZE32 users ) can learn from you.. :)
+Twit Ter wire it up by figuring out which motor outputs on the 4-in-1 correspond to the motor positions Cleanflight is expecting. Best of luck!
Why no mention of DJI NAZA or Graupner FC systems?
+itchy robot As we cover in the video - these are the ones that we have personal experience with.. ;)
OK, thanks.
But you really never picked up a NAZA? or a Graupner? Seems odd. Why not?
They are very popular, far easier to add things on, more stable, work on any size or configuration of platform, have as many or more features, and they are quicker to set up than any of the FC boards you chose.
I can't understand why you wouldn't have tried or at least checked out the NAZA or Graupner.
If you think the boards in your video are good, you should definitely try them. They fit in the sweet spot in your diagram too... gives you and your viewers more choices :)
Thanks again for another great video!
Hi , I have accidentally turned the USB port off on my new furious radiance v3 FC !! is there a a way to get back connected ?? Thanks
+Craig Waterworth I've never used one, I try to re flash it and short the boot pins. Best of luck
CF gps code still not working on NAZE32/SP3?
+ASUS Micro Not yet - iNav looks almost ready to roll back into Cleanflight from what I hear...
will it be okay to use naze32 for air video capturing? not planning to use gps based missions but i need gps position fix and others
+이찬혁 Then watch the Naze32 videos - GPS modes are still not yet solid..
+Painless360 just watched your naze32 gps setting video and got the info's i need. Always greatful with your fantastic tutorials!!
nice!
How about the Lumineer Lux?
+Dean Cory If we get round to it I'll update this with the new detail. This is based on ones we've actually used here to date...
The kiss board looks a lot like the Lumineer Lux
What goes into the making of a flight controller, especially the programming? I've wanted to do an arduino based drone for years, I eventually gave up on it a few years ago just because there was no information to be found unless you searched for literally hours.
I want an arduino based drone for expandability, some reasons being experimental and I could just take it apart or modify it easily.
I have no background in programming, and I'm a person that learns with my hands and by doing, so programming isn't really my thing. But is there any open sourced flight controller software that I could read and try to understand how they work?
+Xander Zoolander the answer is not easily. The most accessible code is probably Multiwii, you can see every line. Best of luck!
How would the flight controller from DJI like the naza m fit here?
No idea, we only play with Opensource powered flight controllers on the channel.. Happy flying!
Hi.
Tank you for your videos. :D They are very helpful. I couldnt understand what platform you use instead of openpilot. Could you please share it to me?
Tank you again
+Luis Filipe Machado All covered in the intro video to the CC3D series and covered in detail in the CC3D Revo series.. Best of luck..
Tank you :)
noice
Do you have any blog or question forum? something like that? So that I can contact you there for my queries on autopilot systems. If there is any, please send me the link or whatever it may be.
We provide free support via the comments section on the videos here on UA-cam..
Ok. I am making a quad with contra coaxial motors. We are going to attach a hovercraft to it. I want to know that which autopilot is available in the market for both the operations or we can use any board for hovercraft? So, do I need to have seperate autopilots for both? If not, how I can integrate both the functions in an autopilot?
That's quite a list. I have no experience of hovercraft here but we can help with any questions you have on the multirotors side. Best of luck!
Ok, thats not a problem. Then you can help me by suggesting a control board for my quad
Our thoughts are in this video really, depends on how you want to fly. For your application I'd suggest a FC that has excellent GPS and very stable flight. Something like a Pixhawk..
Excellent overview, thanks!
More revision for spf3 mini. Please please please ;).
Please tell me in which home devices flight controller exist?? Please reply fast!!!!
+Viraj Ghadge I don't understand the question..
Painless360 I'm saying that, in which devices or instruments the flight controller get used or we must have to buy it online??
Via flight control kam se kam kitne kitne ka aayega
Rambabu patel 1500 se suru hota he
It is possible, when my drone lose gps signal, that my drone saves all route that it flight and with this route come back?
sorry, i cant speak perfect english.
+Samil gülbaran that would depend on the software that you're running on the flight controller. The flight controller would still need a valid GPS signal in order to navigate back home and figure out where it was though.
Isn't it possible that the drone makes
contrariwise moves without GPS?
The multirotor can move but without the GPS location data can't fly autonomously. Happy flying!
OpenPilot is discontinued.
Use LibrePilot instead.
+UncleRus Agreed ua-cam.com/video/O45yOUxKlHs/v-deo.html ;) Happy flying!
Who is 'we' , 'us', you got a staff?
+Salih Ergezen :)
+Salih Ergezen can I join in?
By subscribing - you are ;)
haha, done for quiet some time ;)
I didn't know about Pixracer. Now as I am looking at it, I really like it and I will maybe put it in racer.
Board that I like most is APM. It is easy to setup and it is stable. Despite that it still gives you place for experimenting, unlike naza. For racer, APM would be waste, but for basic flying and UAV it is best.
After 2 years what would you recommend now,,im to build my 1st and would like to get some tips.
CC3D should have scored higher in the modes department. It is lacking in hardware modes but it sure gets it right when you want to configure flight modes. In the Google app configuration programs you are stuck with one set of rates across all stability modes. That sucks so bad. Not everybody thinks they are going to be the next racing champ, some want to shoot some video or simply go on a 'Sunday Drive' as it were. Yes technically you can changes rates on the fly with Cleanflight but I think you do it through some clunky stick combos. Really, during flight? Too bad the Libre pilot project seems to be stagnating in the hardware dept. I don't understand all the hate for that platform I think it's just not the 'IN' platform right now because all of you are going to win in Dubai, right?
Why do not you make this video public?!
+Ehsan Poor Mohammady it will be shortly. You've found it using the playlists ;)
Number one, the most menacing accent on the planet source of my grief; because of your voice I have a planet of people to endlessly discretely screw over...What can I do with this?..What can I do with this?
Please make a 2018 comparison video. Or at least, reply to my comment, about which is the best fpv flight controller of 2018. Thank you. I'm expecting your reply very soon. Love from india
Already done, video came out in August 2018.. Best of luck!
hi which flight controller is the best Pixhawk PX4 32 Bit or APM 2.7 which one is the best one can you please tell me
+Sohaib Rafi Shaik depends on what you mean by 'best'.. Pixhawk is newer and runs the latest software. APM is cheaper..
what do u say sir which one is the best Pixhaw or APM
can plz tell me where r u from
Pixhawk is newer and runs the latest software. APM is cheaper.. Impossible to give more detail than that!! If you've got the cash - Pixhawk. ;)
thank you sir i really your good feedback from you
I am using the Naze32, Right now, I wanna kill it. :P :( So So unreliable
+Chea Nakhim most Naze32 are clones now with varying quality, plus there are so many better faster more capable flight controllers out there now. I've not used a Naze32 for a few years..