American Reacts to How The Mod Subculture Changed Society Forever!

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  • @KEITH-jc6gs
    @KEITH-jc6gs 25 днів тому +114

    Now you have to watch Quadrophenia. Excellent film and music (The Who).

  • @Russ_Keith
    @Russ_Keith 24 дні тому +39

    First off, this documentary was very London-centric. Most of the country's youth was not involved in battles. We were more concerned with finding an identity that was different from our parents, finding a tribe and escaping the gloom and austerity that marked post-war Britain.
    I was born in 1949 and the evolution shown in the program is an illustration of my life. I was a mod but couldn't afford expensive clothes or a scooter. It took some ingenuity to follow the fashion trends on a budget and seek out cheaper alternatives that embodied the trends. As a short, skinny, spotty, poor boy who miraculously sprouted about 8" in height at about 12, elevating me to the heady position of average height, I used fashion to distract from those things and reinvented myself once I left school and those associations behind. I also changed my name from Alex to the trendier Russ.
    As the 60s became the 70s I morphed into a hippie and could add long hair, my best physical attribute and a handy way to distract attention away from my face, to my arsenal. RuPaul's mantra "We're all born naked and the rest is drag" describes my progress although I'd never heard it expressed that way at the time. It was easier being a hippie. There was not the pressure to wear the latest fashions and the hippie philosophy reflected my own. I eventually overcame my lack of confidence by developing my personality and taking my reflection from other people's reaction to me and reverting to short hair so I could avoid mirrors as much as possible. I behaved as if I was confident and it fooled a lot of people a lot of the time. The confidence became real after a while. I recommend it.
    Musically my evolution was Ray Charles -> R&B -> The Rolling Stones -> Blues -> Psychedelia -> Jazz -> World music; always adding, not replacing. At 75 I've gven up differentiating and just like what appeals to me from the selection available, which inevitably contains elements of my journey.
    That's a long comment but these days I don't get out much so sue me.

    • @AlBarzUK
      @AlBarzUK 24 дні тому +4

      Well the first half of that was nearly me.
      Except we lived in Croydon (Surrey) and I bought a scooter for 12 quid. I had a Vespa, my best mate Roger had a Lambretta. He was cooler.
      I embraced a lot of Beatles era music that superseded what my elder brother liked (Elvis era).
      And yes I went hippie. Long hair, but kept the fine style white Levi jeans when I adopted flower-power. More eclectic music than most.
      I couldn’t be a Greaser.

    • @Russ_Keith
      @Russ_Keith 23 дні тому +2

      @@AlBarzUK I never did get a scooter but Ironically in the 80s I started riding motor bikes. The old associations were gone so it wasn't making any kind of statement. It was just an independent, affordable means of travel. Eventually I remembered my age and moved to cars. These days I ride an electric bike and get exercise along with the convenience.

    • @NoirL.A.
      @NoirL.A. 19 днів тому +1

      you'll be hearing from my attorney.
      lolololol...

    • @Elaine-p3g
      @Elaine-p3g 8 днів тому +1

      @@Russ_Keith I really loved your honest,thoughtful comment. I relate heavily to what you said. Its clear you have great taste and style.I lived through all those times with the same strong need to express myself through what I'm wearing. I'm strongly contemplating a part time job at a great boutique where I buy clothes sometimes. My brother made a living here in southeast of US as an artist who painted the local interests and physical views of this area. It was such a great time for visually creative kids to be nourished .

    • @Russ_Keith
      @Russ_Keith 8 днів тому

      @@Elaine-p3g Thank you for that. I was fortunate to have a teacher in my pre-teen years who was kown to be a bit of a dragon but was kind to me. She told me that I could do anything I set my mind to and I believed her. And it was mostly true. It was because of her that I eventually became a lecturer because I wanted to inspire others with the same message as well as hopefully giving them some tools to help with it.
      So I'm saying go for it with your part time job. It could be fun. And then of course there's that staff discount.

  • @ericthefish01
    @ericthefish01 24 дні тому +10

    A "hairdryer" was the rockers nickname for a scooter.

  • @afc358
    @afc358 24 дні тому +15

    17:52 That's my Uncle Jimmy showing off! He's still with us.

  • @claireoconnor161
    @claireoconnor161 14 днів тому +2

    My dad was a mod!!! His cousin a rocker.. 😮 No fights.. he had wonderful memories. His clothes from his youth..amazing. his photographs from that era.. tell a thousand words.

    • @Elaine-p3g
      @Elaine-p3g 8 днів тому

      @@claireoconnor161 I bet your Daddy and and his cousin look great in those photos. That was a lot of fun and excitement to live through. I thank God I grew up then.

    • @markhutton6055
      @markhutton6055 3 дні тому

      My Dad was a Ton Up Boy (proto-Rocker) - I am a Mod.

    • @Elaine-p3g
      @Elaine-p3g 3 дні тому

      @@markhutton6055 I love how JJ is reacting to these vids of post modern cultural history.All these eras. It unites people from around the world via their experiences with trends like these. As a very young girl in Tennessee, I have very warm memories of starting junior highschool wearing all my mod clothing. I loved it. A Proto rocker must have been someone who got in on that trend at its earliest phases. How interesting. I'll need to look up what a Ton Up Boy was. ☺

  • @terryarkle7477
    @terryarkle7477 25 днів тому +29

    You should watch the film QUADROPHENIA its a must watch.Written by the WHO and featuring their music.

  • @NoirL.A.
    @NoirL.A. 19 днів тому +2

    "shellshocked" is the term they used to use for what we now refer to as "ptsd".

  • @vanburger
    @vanburger 25 днів тому +23

    You just have to do a deep dive into NORTHERN SOUL. which was the next sub culture to emerge .

    • @Elaine-p3g
      @Elaine-p3g 8 днів тому

      @@vanburger Now this interests me because I live in Tennessee about 30 minutes away from the Smokey Mnts. Ive never liked country music personallybut,.I do feel and sense that funky Appalachian Blues presence deep in my bones. If you'd like, I'd be interested in hearing more information about that Northern Soul 🤔 thing. Was it,in some way, responsible for all that southern blues funkiest in Joe Cocker's voice? He lived in Sheffield, and I'm telling you the incredible wailing grit in that man's throat could make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!

  • @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.
    @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. 24 дні тому +24

    JJ, what it didn't mention was that from the mid to late '60s a splinter movement of 'Mod' started forming in the U.K. and that was, 'Northern Soul', this was from the element of Soul and R 'n' B music and dance in the culture, it came to prevalence in the early '70s and had a resurgence in the late '90s and still continues today. Northern Soul is known for rare Soul and R 'n' B music and artists with stylised dancing, there were certain clubs which hosted "All-Nighters" (8pm until 8am) and "Weekenders" (8pm Friday night until 8am Monday morning) where people would dance to these tracks.

    • @scotmax8426
      @scotmax8426 24 дні тому +3

      aye, and yes, the dancing went to another level with northern soul.

    • @claymor8241
      @claymor8241 21 день тому +1

      Northern Soul had absolutely nothing to with Mod. If you talked to any Northern Soul fans back in the day they’d barely even have heard of Mods, all that was ancient history.

    • @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.
      @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. 21 день тому

      ​@@scotmax8426Yes, it did, and still does.

    • @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.
      @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. 21 день тому +2

      ​@@claymor8241No, it wasn't ancient history as you put it, Northern Soul started in the late '60s towards the end of the original Mod movement, I know as I was DJing at the time, I switched to Northern Soul from DJing at Mod events and worked a few of the early clubs, sadly many closed due drugs, like The Twisted Wheel, the last two big ones to go were Blackpool Mecca and then The Casino Club at Wigan, but the music has survived, which is what is important.

    • @scotmax8426
      @scotmax8426 21 день тому +1

      @@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. yip, there was also a second wave of mods about 1980 ish? when ska and everything appeared. i remember folk with parkas and fishtails all over the place, this lasted for years. the debate about so many bands as to whether they were or weren't mod lol. my first vehicle was a vespa at 16. i was NOT born in the 50's.

  • @Ayns.L14A
    @Ayns.L14A 25 днів тому +22

    JJ as the video said the Rockers had to complete National service ( Compulsory Military service for 2 years) mods came about after national service ended, so instead of leaving school and going into the military for two years they left school and joined the workforce. it was also the boom after the war so employment almost 100%, wages were growing quickly and the working youth had disposable income to spend on what they wanted....

  • @sroberts605
    @sroberts605 24 дні тому +11

    Omg, I have to break in here as you're pondering austerity in Britain - it was after ww2!!!!! It took us forever to even begin to come back from it, we had precious little to eat, no money and it was pretty grim for a long time. And there was a lot of grief for people (young men) and ways of life that had been stripped away. No wonder new generations wanted to break free.

    • @billyo54
      @billyo54 23 дні тому +2

      Yeah! JJ wouldn't get that. He's over analysing things and missing what's been said.

  • @spursgog835
    @spursgog835 25 днів тому +14

    The rockers didn’t fight in WW2 but were subject to National Service that was later abolished just as the mods hit the scene.

  • @martyjones1413
    @martyjones1413 22 дні тому +3

    Show me on a map, get's me every time.

  • @GroinStrain_
    @GroinStrain_ 25 днів тому +19

    Just please watch Quadrophonia. You’ll love it. It’s basically The Who and life in the mod/rocker scene down in Brighton. I’ll pay Patreon to watch Quadrophenia with you

    • @titanium_di2402
      @titanium_di2402 24 дні тому +1

      Ooh!! I would too!! Even though I have Quadrophenia on VHS 😂😂😂.

  • @carolross6583
    @carolross6583 24 дні тому +7

    I was there. Fantastic times. Box Hill (suitably named) wasn't mentioned though but the fights were not as intense. For JJ's information this is a beauty spot in Surrey not far from London. Show him on the map.

  • @Stoggler
    @Stoggler 25 днів тому +27

    “Hastings, I’ve heard of that…”. Battle of Hastings 😂

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому +2

      'way past "1066, and all that" (a book)
      Time to travel for fresh "fish 'n' chips" - from trawler nets (or an angler's hook!!)

    • @skasteve6528
      @skasteve6528 24 дні тому

      Do you mean the first one, Easter 1964, or the second one Whitsun 1964?🛵

    • @Ingens_Scherz
      @Ingens_Scherz 24 дні тому

      @@brigidsingleton1596 Ah yes. "Brest".

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому

      @@Ingens_Scherz
      What about "Brest" ?

  • @MikeSpeight
    @MikeSpeight 24 дні тому +5

    I was born in London in 53, so I grew up when the Mods and Rockers were prevalent. At the time the only difference between these groups was their style, culture, and music. They were both as guilty as the other when it came to the fighting. There were no differences in intelligence or social status, In fact, there were kids from the same area and schools, one would be a Mod and the other a Rocker! but it was a great time to be growing up in London!

  • @milton1969able
    @milton1969able 25 днів тому +15

    @37:02 the narrator says 'Mods weilding scooter chains' bit strange that as Scooters don't have chains, they're direct drive from the engine. Thats one of the reasons they're not called motorcycles but rather Scooter or moped.

    • @mauricerevelle8451
      @mauricerevelle8451 21 день тому +2

      A Lambretta is chain driven , the Vespa is direct drive. The last thing a Mod would do is carry round a greasy chain anyway. 🛵

    • @milton1969able
      @milton1969able 21 день тому +1

      @@mauricerevelle8451 Ahh I've only had Vespas, didn't know that about Lammys. you learn someting new everyday eh ?

    • @mauricerevelle8451
      @mauricerevelle8451 21 день тому

      @@milton1969able Lol. 😎. Had couple of both back in the day. Best times.🛵

    • @markhutton6055
      @markhutton6055 3 дні тому

      ​@@mauricerevelle8451you'd have to have big hands to handle a Lammie chain.

    • @mauricerevelle8451
      @mauricerevelle8451 3 дні тому

      @@markhutton6055 Ha, it’ll be to much effort just to remove the chain in first place. I wouldn’t even have attempted it. 🛵.

  • @VelvetVoice
    @VelvetVoice 25 днів тому +8

    "They got... that thing..." - That would be the Helter Skelter, JJ. :-)

  • @xlerb_again_to_music7908
    @xlerb_again_to_music7908 25 днів тому +11

    UK mid-1950s lad: My parents with both shell-shocked / PSTD from WW-2. Both seen too many bodies in bits, taken too much bombing, been in deep fear too long, seen the ground bouncing from explosions. And 2nd time around for the country, with many women widowed / unmarried as the dead of WW-1 were the men (in vast numbers), who now could never be husbands. Both those generations didn't want to talk, as that just dragged the memories back up and it was too much.

  • @Elaine-p3g
    @Elaine-p3g 24 дні тому +2

    I was just buying some clothes in a boutique today and was amazed how 30-40% of the stuff on the rack looked exactly like mid 60's mod . It was a wonderful time to be young and is still one of the major influences of style.

  • @Shoomer1988
    @Shoomer1988 25 днів тому +7

    Quadrophenia is well worth watching. The Who's soundtrack is reason enough but it's a decent film in its own right. Plus it's got some talented actors and er.. Sting.

  • @jeffreyprice773
    @jeffreyprice773 24 дні тому +4

    Mods & Rockers used to fight at the uk seaside towns. I was a mod & wore a parker with my town name on the back.
    I was a mid teenager in the 60's and lived through it.
    London to Brighton is 50 miles.

  • @stoopot100
    @stoopot100 24 дні тому +3

    The open mindness is very much part of it. The UKs acceptance and love of black American music and artists. Listen to many black American artists of the time and their amazement of how welcome they were in the UK playing to big white audiences. The British Invasion of music into the US was basically white bands covering black American music and selling it back to white Americans.

  • @Shoomer1988
    @Shoomer1988 25 днів тому +9

    I've had a few Vespa's and a Lambretta. And to this day, if you see another on the road, the thing to do is give each other a little nod as you pass. The scooter scene has a great community and Sunday meets are still a thing... but with much less fighting.

    • @titanium_di2402
      @titanium_di2402 24 дні тому

      We do the "2 wheel nod" in the motorcycle community as well. In fact, I can tell if someone is a new rider because if you nod at them, they don't nod back.
      I also have 2 Lambrettas. The 1965 LI 125 has been played with so is now a 200 with a top speed of 74mph (or 70mph if you don't want it to shake 😁).
      I've also a fully restored 1964 TV 200 (aka GT 200). It has a top end of 65mph. I won it in a competition!!! VERY happy 😊

  • @shabashmaori
    @shabashmaori 25 днів тому +17

    The film Quadrophenia isn't perfect but it is a good reflection of what the mod scene was like and is something you should watch to get an experiance of what it was like.

    • @cazziefores2183
      @cazziefores2183 25 днів тому +3

      I think Quadrophenia is an iconic British film I've seen it many times... The soundtrack is amazing.. And it's got a great cast..... I think he'd really enjoy it.... Please watch and review it.. There's a very youthful Sting in it... Spoiler Alert,.. Lol 😂😂😂

  • @salome5055
    @salome5055 24 дні тому +2

    That was fascinating and I enjoyed watching it with you. Thank you JJ.

  • @KevinAmatt
    @KevinAmatt 24 дні тому +3

    I worked on a house in Cucklington village, Somerset in the 1980s. Goergie Fame lived there in a large house. My client said he gave a concert in the village hall.

  • @tabi122
    @tabi122 25 днів тому +7

    I live in Bournemouth on the South coast and sometimes i see old men riding on bright blue mopeds with about 10 or more mirrors on them, they used to be mods when they were young men!

  • @MrGeoffHilton
    @MrGeoffHilton 24 дні тому +1

    Hi JJ. great video, I didn't think this would be my cup of tea, but I was glued to the screen for nearly an hour. Keep up the good work.

  • @buidseach
    @buidseach 24 дні тому +3

    You have to look into the Skinheads, Ska and Two Tone movements :)

  • @FilterHQ
    @FilterHQ 25 днів тому +4

    The Mod look made a comeback in the early 80s with the 2tone and skinhead look. You could still see people on Lambrettas and buy mod patches in 1980 etc. watch Quadrophenia for sure.

  • @spruce381
    @spruce381 24 дні тому +3

    I’m a mod, for over 40 years / 79 revival.
    Mod really started in the late 50s - term came from modern jazz, as opposed to trad jazz, it was all about dressing. Had gone above ground by 64 teal mod acts / small faces, the action, Georgie fame.

  • @nolaj114
    @nolaj114 25 днів тому +2

    Georgie Fame was mentioned in the pirate radio station video.
    When BBC wouldn't play Georgie Fame, Ronan O'Rahilly started his own radio station to promote Georgie's first record. (Radio Caroline).
    It's all tying in nicely. 😊
    I'm a decade younger than my oldest sibling and my mum liked to have a radio going nearly constantly, so I got exposed to all sorts of music from a young age. The mods and rockers were before my time but my older brother and sister were mods. (Here, we also had the bodgies and the widgies in that era too). 😅

  • @gamingtonight1526
    @gamingtonight1526 25 днів тому +10

    We had mods fighting rockers and rockers fighting skinheads and football hooliganism everywhere, smashing up stuff, and sticking broken glass into the faces of the opposing teams fans! Yet today, everyone thinks it's more dangerous!

  • @laurensmith485
    @laurensmith485 25 днів тому +9

    Mods forever!I had a restored 1957 lambretta LD & wore my parka badged up in the 90s,I love the MOD scene & always will

  • @mattbentley9270
    @mattbentley9270 24 дні тому +1

    Awesome find JJ, really not looked into this before, loved it ... I think o would have been a mod, Carnaby Street remains an utterly cool place to go

  • @dondons27
    @dondons27 24 дні тому +2

    I am Hastings born and bred and I should hope you've heard of my hometown. It's one of the most historical towns in the UK.
    A lot of the pictures in this video were of Hastings including the duo pic of Mods and Rockers. Our local museum has a whole section dedicated to that weekend.

  • @carolweight5972
    @carolweight5972 25 днів тому +6

    Due to the 2ww's the lose of at least 1 generation of men had a huge impact on society as a whole especially the young men. Also the moral panic caused by media exacerbated any rivalry between the different cultures. This was overhyped. Saying this it was an exciting time and a time of discovery. These styles/cultures are still seen on the streets and in music today

  • @MARKSTRINGFELLOW1
    @MARKSTRINGFELLOW1 25 днів тому +3

    Before Top of the Pops there was 65 Special and Juke Box Jury

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому

      I don't remember "65 Special" but recall "Ready Steady Go" & "Juke Box Jury"*
      ("Hit or Miss" that* was presented by David Jacobs, who I always thought was too "square" to be playing / talking about pop music!!)

    • @duncanny5848
      @duncanny5848 24 дні тому +1

      @@brigidsingleton1596 Totally agree about David Jacobs!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому

      @duncanny5848
      He was sooo old-fashioned in both dress, attitudes, speech patterns... A real "square"!!

  • @101steel4
    @101steel4 20 днів тому

    Clacton, just up the road from Harwich, where the Mayflower was built.

  • @geoffreywilliams748
    @geoffreywilliams748 24 дні тому +1

    @8:30 Six-Five Special was a music TV programme on the BBC.

  • @patjackson8649
    @patjackson8649 23 дні тому +1

    Quadrophenia changed my life in the very early 1980s in, of all places, Winnipeg, Canada. There was a small group of wanna-be prairie mods here who idolized the Who and watched the film at midnight screenings at the little art cinema downtown. The music more than anything never left me. Due to very happy circumstances, I was able to get to Brighton and even have a chat with Phil Daniels, who played the iconic role of Jimmy in the film

  • @terryhunt2659
    @terryhunt2659 21 день тому

    A quick note on National Service (compulsory Army service of up to 3 years for young men on reaching 18). The annual intake for this continued in the UK until 1960.

  • @markmosley3547
    @markmosley3547 13 днів тому

    I used to live in Clacton and that weekend of fighting was still felt by some.

  • @Hannah.Walker
    @Hannah.Walker 25 днів тому +4

    My great grandad did his hair like the Teddy boys ( he did it until he passed away ) but he called it a 'A Ducks Arse' because of how the back off the head looked like a ducks behind 😂

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому

      Later referred to as a "DA" as deemed more polite in company!! I recall being quite surprised when I asked what a "DA" was!!😅

  • @Hannah-pk6iq
    @Hannah-pk6iq 24 дні тому +1

    That' thing' at the fair is called a Helter Skelter as in the Beatle song. You are welcome.

  • @LordRogerPovey
    @LordRogerPovey 24 дні тому +1

    I had a Vespa scooter, loved it!

  • @lim6299
    @lim6299 24 дні тому +5

    Watch Quadrophenia!

  • @bryanromans2331
    @bryanromans2331 24 дні тому +1

    As others have said - watch the movie 'Quadrophenia' - great story, great music

  • @101steel4
    @101steel4 20 днів тому +1

    BELL BOY! BELL BOY!

  • @alisonscurr4395
    @alisonscurr4395 24 дні тому +2

    When the rocker said they can buy hair dryers, he was talking about the scooters. The girl was saying the mod girls looked like men as the fashion was short hair so you wouldn't know if you were looking at the man or the girl. I was a biker from the 1980's to 2000's. Motorbikes are in my blood. My dad had one, my brother had a motorbike business. I hung out with a small group of like minded friends. At the weekends we went for rides and had fun. Go watch motorbike racing, pool rooms, the fair and go to biker pubs or clubs. There were about 20 of us. I remember we walked into a cafe to get something to eat and when I turned around to look for a table, everyone was gathering their things and leaving. I was shocked as we were all a nice bunch but the leather jackets, jeans and motorbike helmets scared them off. Sadly, my bad back prevents me from riding these days.

  • @GayJayU26
    @GayJayU26 2 дні тому

    Im78 in two days and I went through so many styles from beatnik to rocker, to mod.

  • @101steel4
    @101steel4 20 днів тому

    There's still a scooter rally at clacton every year.
    No rockers though 😁

  • @lesh4357
    @lesh4357 3 дні тому

    Hi JJ, I think I mentioned this in the comments of another reaction.
    Yes, Sting played "Ace Face" in Quadrophenia.
    A "Face" is someone of note in the Mod scene.
    The Small Faces were Mods but short men. When Steve Marriot left, they changed their name to the Faces, because Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood are tall.
    You really need to watch Quadrophenia. Stars Phil Daniels, Leslie Ash, Sting, Toyah Willcox, even Ray Winstone is in it.
    Austerity refers to a period of low spending, living with very little. This one was after WW2. Britain lost the war really. It cost us more than any other country. We lost an empire, Stirling was no longer the international currency (now US dollar). We did not receive compensation from Germany and we had to pay America for everything we got under the "Lend Lease" scheme. We made the final payment to America in 2006 (60 years).
    31:26 "That thing" is a "Helter Skelter" - somethig you should know being a Beatles fan 😆You should be punished with "blisters on your fingers".
    A Hairdrier was a Rockers derogatory term for the Mods scooter.
    My dad fought in the war at El-Alamein and other places, he never spoke about the war, ever.
    If anything came up or on the telly, he would turn the telly off or leave to not be part of that conversation.

  • @stevensmith204
    @stevensmith204 25 днів тому +5

    You listened to one conversation which was mostly boastful bravado and you made a decision, Rockers were known as greasers and not to fond of the soap. My mind was instantly made up when it became apparent that the best looking girls were invariably Mods

  • @tmac160
    @tmac160 15 днів тому

    I'm now 74. I've always been a mod. It's now a broad church but wasn't always so. My go to music on Spotify is always 60"s and 70"s mixes.

  • @buidseach
    @buidseach 24 дні тому

    Brilliant, I really enjoyed this, Thanks :)

  • @rayfearne1379
    @rayfearne1379 24 дні тому +1

    I was part of the Mod revival in the late 70's/80's. Loved the dress sense & Music. The Rockers are still around today, but much older. They like Heavy Music. Her in the UK, we had many fashion trends, after this period. With Skin Heads, Soul Boy's & Punk Rockers. It all seemed to die out in the 90's, but we still have traces of cult fashion today, in the Goths.

  • @scotmax8426
    @scotmax8426 24 дні тому

    what a great video, loved this. so0o0o glad your journey through it took you to where i ended up too lol. Quadrophenia is defo worth a watch, as is Tommy. the path to the hippy was always happening :D

  • @mattbentley9270
    @mattbentley9270 24 дні тому +1

    Clacton, my step nan lived there it is an utter rundown DUMP now,, what a place to pick so far from London (83 miles!) for a massive punch up, margate 76 miles from London why the seaside stuff ? Brighton ... why thats a fab place... all the seaside places ? why ?

  • @KC-gy5xw
    @KC-gy5xw 25 днів тому +1

    Got my bottle of wine. Mods is something very close to me, with Ska formed my early years...

  • @richardworrall5942
    @richardworrall5942 24 дні тому +1

    I have to say I do enjoy your videos and I have a little giggle when you look up SOMETHING ON A MAP. By the way I was born in 1963 and I remember playing in old ww2 bombsights in 1971 1972 that's how long it took London to recover.

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому

      I am ten years older than you and definitely remember playing in bomb sites...and was disappointed when new houses were built in their place...had to find new places to play that were still close to home!! (The unthinking selfishness of the very young?!)
      I remember school friends living in Prefabs too... Do you?

  • @timglennon6814
    @timglennon6814 24 дні тому

    If you can find this move somewhere on the World Wide Web you have got to watch it.
    It is a British 1979 movie about the English Mods and Rockers.
    The movie title is
    Quadrophenia.
    It stars, Phil Daniels, Sting (of the band Police) and Leslie Ash.

  • @wulfgold
    @wulfgold 24 дні тому

    Definitely liking longer videos. You're seeing how it all comes together.
    It'd be be nice to get your "thoughts so far" on delving into Brit music?
    20 or 30 sounds like a lot, but if that was only keeping you up until the next morning...

  • @duncanny5848
    @duncanny5848 24 дні тому +2

    Mods and Rockers used to clash at seaside resorts like Southend. Riots might not be to strong a word. they really really did NOT like each other!

  • @anndunkerley6639
    @anndunkerley6639 6 днів тому

    Bless ya! Most of these are not British problems e.g. the delivery person and the post office. You are worrying too much about what other people think of you. When we see a delivery person approaching, we happily meet him at the door and do just say “I saw you coming” with a smile!

  • @jillybrooke29
    @jillybrooke29 25 днів тому

    My mum's friend had a scooter, in 1963 when I was 6 in South London, he came over and I ended up on the back of the scooter and he took me around the block a few times. So exciting and scary!! I left School at 15 in 72 (hippy/skinhead time), never looked back..I went straight into a high paying job. Loved it, We used to holiday every year in Clacton in the 60s as my aunty lived there,It got quieter at the end of the 60s Margate/Brighton were lovely when I was little before the fights. My family went to Carnaby Street a lot.I live near Hastings now.😆

  • @ninajaiherm
    @ninajaiherm 24 дні тому

    I live in Brighton born mid 50s i witnessed some of these fights my mother would try to get us home as soon as she saw the bikes and scooters but we would hide until we could get

  • @harleywebb9852
    @harleywebb9852 24 дні тому

    I used to go to the 59 club as a kid. My dad was a rocker

  • @eddisstreet
    @eddisstreet 24 дні тому +1

    It is sad that Lonnie Donegan, who is the grandfather of British rock, is remembered for a novelty song - My Old Man's A Dustman.

  • @nolaj114
    @nolaj114 25 днів тому +1

    Georgie Fame had a big hit with "The Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde" in the 60's. Not sure if it was used in the movie (with Warren Beatty) so it may have been played in US too.

    • @AlexByth
      @AlexByth 24 дні тому

      No, not in the movie. I fact it was written after the movie came out.

  • @GayJayU26
    @GayJayU26 2 дні тому

    My Hubby worked on the fashion shows on Carnaby Street

  • @andrewroberts299
    @andrewroberts299 24 дні тому +1

    JJ, you HAVE to see Quadrophenia! It is a classic British 70s film which, along with Scum (also 1979) are acquired watching for anybody (of any nationality) who wants to understand youth culture in 1960s and 1970s Britain!
    Sting isn’t in the Quadrophenia film much, but he does get to say possibly the film’s best line (which I won’t spoil for you here) but it also had an array of upcoming British TV and film talent in it, the likes of Phil Daniels, Lesley Ash, Phil Davis, Toyah Willcox, Tim Spall and Ray Winstone (who also played the lead in “Scum” and went on to work with Scorsese and Spielberg).
    JJ, you need to start reacting to films on your channel, so you can see films like Quadrophenia and Scum and which will definitely increase the number of your subscribers and patreon members.

    • @Grithron2
      @Grithron2 22 дні тому +1

      We should probably mention that around the same time, in the "uncut" version of The Great Rock And Roll Swindle, Sting played the leader of the gang that abducts and rapes Paul Cook. Versatile actor no, good villain yes (see also Brimstone, Stormy, Gorm).

  • @SeeDaRipper...
    @SeeDaRipper... 23 дні тому

    51 and still a Mod, second gen (late 70's early 80's) still have my Vespa sportique '69...My dad was first gen. Don't care what you say, Mods rule.😎

  • @andrewlaw
    @andrewlaw 24 дні тому

    Clacton..."looks like a good place for a riot". 😂

  • @DavidTagg-z4c
    @DavidTagg-z4c 24 дні тому +3

    Quadrophenia is a good film

  • @martyjones1413
    @martyjones1413 22 дні тому

    I remember a photo of my parents on a Vespa

  • @corringhamdepot4434
    @corringhamdepot4434 7 днів тому

    My older brother born in 1948 was a dyed in the wool rocker. Mods wore suits and rode Vespa and Lambretta scooters that kept their clothes clean. Rockers rode motorcycles and wore oily jeans and leather jackets. Rockers listened to the Rolling Stones, and Mods listened to The Beatles.
    Being a Rocker was the cheaper lifestyle, because the market was flooded with cheap motorcycles in the 1960s. As the post war boom in motorcycles as family transport, was being replaced with cheap family cars. So you could pick up a old motorcycle for a pittance.
    In the other hand, Mod style was a much more expensive lifestyle. With custom made suits and modern manufactured Italian scooters.

  • @tonibaker3823
    @tonibaker3823 25 днів тому

    when we were young maybe 1966 ish we got caught at the seaside (weston super mare ) in a fight between mods and rockers (i was 5) . i remember dad got seperated from us and didnt get home for 2 days .i think he had a great time although he would never admit it lol

  • @markorollo.
    @markorollo. 14 днів тому

    The 'Mocker' thing, my Parents were Mods in the late 60s, but i grew up liking rock music, leather and denim and motorbikes, basically the enemy of a Mod lol. but i do like the world my parents come from too, the style, the music like Motown and the beatles, and scooters with all the mirrors on, so i guess i could be called a Mocker.

  • @paolomargini7904
    @paolomargini7904 22 дні тому

    In 1954 the Scot singer and guitarist Lonnie Donegan "The King of Skiffle", brought to popularity in the UK that former US music style with a modern cover of a 1929 American train song called Rock Island Line, and since then a lot of Brit teenagers, defying the post war austerity, happily bought the less expensive and quicker to learn harmonic instruments, guitars, so forming the shape of what would become the British Invsasion.

  • @bennett8535
    @bennett8535 22 дні тому

    About austerity…
    The video was referring to austerity in terms of economics. The simple definition would be a dramatic reduction of government spending, particularly in non-military social programs. Generally they are referred to as “austerity measures” and are frequently used by governments to reduce spending and pay off government debt. Or to pay for military buildups, such as in the 80s.
    You can clearly see the effects of the shifts in British economics in the culture, music, and style the video talks about.
    After WWII, Britain was forced into austerity because so much was bombed out and the economy was crippled. There just wasn't money at the time. But as things started to improve the policy - led usually by Labour governments - changed and became what is known as “The Great Consensus.” Lasting until the 70s, this included a lot of government spending on programs such as the NHS, a huge boom in government-sponsored housing construction, the expansion of education to the general public, labor rights, the Arts, scientific research, public transportation and infrastructure, etc. It was also marked by rising GDP and average living standards for the average Joe. Wealth became more evenly distributed.
    There were a series of internal and external shocks during the 70s, kicked off by the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973, and it became harder to continue supporting these policies. Margaret Thatcher and her neoliberal economic policies, which emphasize unregulated markets, little or no government, privatization of assets, low or no-taxes, trickle-down economics, and which still dominate today, halted the funding and brought an end to the Great Consensus. This was doubled-down upon by the Torries in 2007 under Gordon Brown, resulting in a huge shift of wealth to the top 10% and the shambles that are British public services today.

  • @patpopov
    @patpopov 24 дні тому +1

    36:38 That's not Margate, it's Brighton.

  • @ChelseaPensioner-DJW
    @ChelseaPensioner-DJW 3 дні тому

    As was said most of the Rockers had done National Service, (Conscription) they hadn't been in WW2. So they were definitely a bit older and had military training, the Mods were inner city youth who are generally tough, there were boxing clubs and gyms near at hand. So the Rockers/Greasers got a shock because they thought they could walk all over them. Also Scooters are a city bike, Lambretta held the UK 100yrd sprint record for over 20yrs, a 175cc Scoot accelerated way faster than a 200cc Bike, so they were ideal in a City.

  • @vloghogdj
    @vloghogdj 24 дні тому

    you showed me on a map 🤣🤣🤣 i live in worthing near brighton...i watched quadrophenia when i was 11 and have been a mod ever since....carnaby street in the early 80's was excellent,full of mods and skin heads..there was a gang of skins that had one half of their faces completely tattooed...40 years ago that really stood out.........when the rocker was being interviewed he said the mods have their hair dryers...that what everyone calls a vespa/lambretta

  • @fishtigua
    @fishtigua 24 дні тому +1

    At College in the early 80's, I rented a room from Mrs. Scrivens, she also rent out one other room. I arrived on my big, oily Italian bike, all dressed in leather. There, parked next to the garage, was a small black Vespa. He looked at me and I looked at "the enemy". Within 2 weeks we were best mates. If he was going to a Mod concert, I'd drop him off early so none of his 'Dresser' mates would see him getting off a noisy V-twin bike. He did have to call me one night infront of his friends. He had got his pee-pee jammed in his silly tight trouser zipper. I got him to the ER pronto, bloody all over my bike. A week or two later we planned to go to a Snooker club but my bike refused to start. We got on his crappy Vespa. I was riding because I had a full licence. At a round-about the bloody throttle jammed open and we shot across the road and straight into a petrol station, nearly killing both of us. That was the last time I ever went near a scooter. Hmm, Mods and Rockers still have issues.

  • @spruce381
    @spruce381 24 дні тому

    Think of it like spring break - ride your scooter or bike out of London for a bank holiday weekend.

  • @Ade2bee
    @Ade2bee 25 днів тому

    There was a mod revival in 70s and 80s and guys were travelling the length of the country on scooters

  • @benjames9158
    @benjames9158 24 дні тому

    never thought id hear clacton on sea (cracktown on speed) being called beautiful

  • @thunderbuffalo7093
    @thunderbuffalo7093 24 дні тому

    georgie fame lived about half mile from me think it was number 1 cotton street near the sportsman pub in leigh

  • @markhutton6055
    @markhutton6055 3 дні тому

    Note they slipped in at least a couple of photos from the 1979 Mod revival. At least two pics of the Merton Parkas.

  • @leegreenhalgh6677
    @leegreenhalgh6677 20 днів тому

    Quadrophenia has got to be one of the best films about British Sub-Culture

  • @lyndarichardson4744
    @lyndarichardson4744 25 днів тому +1

    I remember watching on the News the Mods and Rockers fighting on the beaches at weekends and bank holidays ! I think those Rocker girls were saying if you go out with a Mod , people wouldn't know if he was a man or a woman.

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 25 днів тому +1

      I remember the fighting in Hastings, East Sussex...it was on our television news and semi-scary, semi-exciting!! I used to like visiting Hastings but at that time it was less attractive to me as a mere 16_ year o!d minus both a boyfriend and a vehicle by which to travel anywhere (unless with my Mum and stepdad, the latter being our sole car driver!) Travelling alone by trains which might also be used by some older Mods and / or Rockers was _not encouraged_ by my Mum! (I led a sheltered life, growing up!)

    • @lyndarichardson4744
      @lyndarichardson4744 24 дні тому +1

      I was like you, a teenager then , I was stopped from doing a lot of things 🙄

  • @waydomriver2186
    @waydomriver2186 21 день тому +1

    In the UK music is at the core of every trend of culture.

  • @SeeDaRipper...
    @SeeDaRipper... 23 дні тому +1

    "Boat" Boat race, face (cockney rhyming slang)

  • @eileenmccurdy1636
    @eileenmccurdy1636 24 дні тому

    I was an eighties mod you have got to listen to the Quadrophonia Album first then watch the Film.

  • @doegywhail728
    @doegywhail728 24 дні тому +1

    31:26 you’ve just discovered what the Beatles were singing about. I’ll let another Brit tell you.

    • @dontdissdave
      @dontdissdave 24 дні тому +1

      I came here to give a full description, but I also think I'll let another Brit describe it. I just read the lyrics of that Beatles song and they describe it to some extent, easily could be describing just a regular slide though.
      I can remember the burns you used to get going down it.

  • @brigidsingleton1596
    @brigidsingleton1596 24 дні тому +1

    _Silly boy, JJLA_ ... Not "Mary _Quaint_ " - the narrator said her name correctly.
    It was _Mary Quant_
    (pronounced: 'Qwont') sigh! 😮😅🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿💕

  • @nicolafenner6260
    @nicolafenner6260 24 дні тому

    Quadraphenia is a movie that is the mod and rocker experience. Really good movie