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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- We're getting three Disney remakes this year. Is it even worth it? Disney doesn't seem to understand their own movies and it's really weird. Now they made the Genie awkward looking and apparently Princess Jasmine isn't empowered enough. You all know how much we love "empowered" rebooted princesses. Wish they could see these ladies for the amazing women they already are. At least we'll aways have the originals.
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Jasmine's line was, "If I do marry, I want it to be for love. " IF I do marry. IF. As in IF people would actually listen to what Jasmine said, they'd know she wasn't just looking for a man to marry.
BRENT PARKER also, “I am not a prize to be won” the movie never made it seem like jasmines goal was to find a man or be an object of affection for men to consume
If... If is good
If nobody gets that I'm going to shoot myself
PrimeLaughter Hercules!
Say it louder for people in the BACK! Jasmine was strong and wanted to be free.
@@winchescumberholland5370 pettywise
And Panic's the one who said it.
Jasmine wants freedom from the palace above all else, and marrying a prince would chain her to the palace for life. I understood this point as a kid, don't know why these hollywood writers don't understand her character as more than "a woman wanting to get married"
sjw politics a woman must overshadow all man and be perfect in every way possible.
Dunning-Krueger Effect They live in an echo chamber and experience everything second hand. Also everyone is patting themselves on the back for being so "moral" and "Better" than everyone else for "seeing what no one else can see".
Delusions at it's finest.
The more I watch stuff like this, the more I just get the vibe that these people don't actually watch and appreciate the art of animated films, but instead simply assume that all female Disney characters are the same because some people in the past have inaccurately lumped all of them together and made broad generalizations about them.
Sexist stereotyping is okay when we do it, right? Once you've seen one Disney princess you've clearly seen them all.
It’s ok for women to be weak and have no goals and be saved.
@@zur137 i mean sure? but that's not jasmine's character
Not to mention that this live action Jafar doesn't seem scary at all. Original Jafar gave me chills, and I wouldn't want to mess with him. LA Jafar looks like he'd burst into tears if you knocked his Starbucks out of his hands. Even the Jafar from the short lived 'Once Upon a Time in Wonderland' looked more the part than this guy.
That Starbucks line killed me! 😂
@@jessicahutton5830 Well, it's true.
I originally read LA as Los Angeles instead of live action and I think that's actually very appropriate.
@Kassquatch Watch, Same here. And Agreed. These Live Actions are very much like LA is today. (Looks pretty, so long as you ignore all the parts covered with Scat…)
He's actually described as 'old' in the animated version and it's pretty much implied that he's not easy on the eyes (despite animation simplifying his design to the point where he isn't really 'ugly' per se) so I have no idea why they chose this guy that actually looks pretty good and not particularly old.
I don’t understand why people say “oh well the new generation needs to experience these stories” tf just sit their ass down and make them watch the original movies I don’t see what’s so hard about that.
Nobody says that. The only people saying that are the imaginary "people" called corporations, and it's just a tactic to ride your faith and get your money.
Problem is not all kids are receptive of that. Tried showing sword in the stone to a 5 year old I was babysitting. 2 minutes into the opening credits he shouts I'm bored
@@realsweetbambi well, I remember finding the opening credits boring and interminable, as a child. We have the magic of fast-forward, skip, and time-bars now...
MrCantStopTheRobot these reboots are needed to make these classics current to keep the kids interested. I don't have any kids yet but I know for sure I would have no chance getting them to sit through a movie with no actor or actress they know
Katharina Hornung I don’t agree, by this logic the new little mermaid movie will have Ariel have an iPhone and making the dab or else the kids won’t relate to her?
Empowered Jasmine huh? Guess wanting her freedom and to do things her way and winding up with a bad boy thief who WASNT of royal blood, defying tradition, wasnt good enough.
Its never good enough😟 I feel like when people complain about disney princesses or disney girls in general being bad examples for young people it feels like they are talking totally different movies than what I grew up with. How can they think all these strong original characters are weak😭 these are the same people hat motivated me to have confidence and see things in different ways and respect others. its just cos they portray themselves in the more girly scale, which isn't really acccurate for all of them, but yeah.
No. Aladdin is just a bad influence on her because he's a man and men are evil. This isn't negotiable.
Ikr. Even as a kid watching the movie it was obvious she went against traditions.
@@williamstark9568 Damn, thats true. I forgot. You'd think I'd remember, being one myself.
Jasmine is one of the most empowered princesses, the only time i can think of that she was uterly helpless and "a damsel in distress" was in Kingdom Hearts and she was up against a final fantasy-esque character, of course she'd stand no chance.
The Lion king was an animation masterpiece , and now it looks like an animal planet documentary
Precisely what I just commented!
Looks more like a demo reel for Zoo Tycoon on XBOX One.
IT DOES.
Exactly
14 bis some animated movies just aren’t meant to be live action, and Lion King is certainly one of them. An animated movie that could work in live action is Black Cauldron.
Watch them remake the remakes of the remakes in 10 years. The next generation won't even remember how good the originals were.
Because the internet would not allow to watch them. Which would also make them judge them on merit, which does not bode for disney in either case.
No, that's too sad to contemplate
100th like!
I ll show the original one to my kids for sure
this is so true and so sad
Ugh. That comment they made about Jasmine was stupid. Jasmine's goal wasn't 'to just find a guy'. She wanted to be free. She bumped into Aladdin accidentally.
And she wanted to be free to marry whoever she wants. True, it's a bit weird to thing she is only 15vand marrying, but wanting to marry for love, or wanting to marry whoever you want regardless of your reasoning for doing so, is something we can probably all agree is a completely fine goal to have.
So Jasmine's goals= to have more freedom and independance +to be free to make her own choices, marriage included
It ins not Jasine's goal=to just find a guy, any guy, and marry him
elena nojkovic also Jasmine probably didnt want to end up with an abusive prick
Jasmine is a princess, and as such would normally be expected to marry for political advantage. She's fully aware of that, and probably accepts that aspect of her life and station, but from what we're shown and told, every single suitor she's had to date has been a pompous, self-centred nitwit, meaning a terrible candidate for Sultan and a worse candidate for "father of my children." Ladies, would you want to have kids with the "horse with two rear ends?"
Maybe the idea of marrying someone she loves and is politically advantageous is unrealistic, but "realistic" and "fifteen years old" don't tend to travel together.
@@LadyDeirdre I actually have a collection of stories at home, 'Tales from Agrabah', I think it's called. There is a short story abou Jasmine meeting one of her suitors. He seems horrible at the beggining, pissing off Jasmine and Sultan. However it turns out he is a pretty nice, although a bit weird, guy and he just pretendet to be very unlikable because there is a girl he loves back at home and he had a deal witj his father that he can marty her but only if he can't find a princess to marry him.
@@LadyDeirdre
Not to mention a lot of them look nearly twice her age so if she's supposed to be 16 and some 36 year old dude comes up to her, acting like she should fawn over them then YES. YES SHE HAS ALL THE RIGHTS TO BE DISGUSTED AND NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH IT. So her saying no against that was ballsy for the time, considering the OTHER implications that could go with it. So in the end, animated Jasmine was already making strides but I guess because she wasn't bitchy enough, it wasn't good. =\
The very idea of Jasmine WANTING to marry anyone and falling in love makes her weak in the eyes of feminists. For them, those are the signs of stereotypical submissive female behavior. And any reasoning to the contrary will be chalked to "mansplanning".
Jasmine was one of the most empowered Princesses in Disney film. And they act like she was just some woman waiting for a penis. This is just amazing rewriting of history.
I blame sjws for that more than the writers
I agree. She fell for Aladdin, not because her father had urged her to find someone, but because she actually had feeligs for him. Throughout the movie, she was a strong character who always stood up for herself. She even threw wine in Jafar's face when she was imprisoned for crying out loud
exactly! the bitch was never weak! and now they turn her into this damsel in distress! just no!
They ruined belle by making Emma Watson play her and now they are ruining Jasmine, literally the actress looks nothing like jasmine
Heuch Gack So how come when the feminists *do* praise her (e.g. MsMojo’s “Top 10 Feminist Disney Ladies”), people *still* complain?
Jasmine not wearing her classic blue outfit.😭
That's the thing about this new Aladdin movie, it's the clothes. All their clothes are so off. It's nowhere near what they were wearing in the cartoon.
The whole thing threw out the color theory of the og movie. Everything's just beige and dull now.
It’s meant to be “realistic” you know, like a giant blue genie. So the clothes are more covered like In most Arabic countries.
@@zur137, if it was meant to be realistic then none of her skin would be showing. Her entire body would be covered from head to toe except for the eyes.
She'll have 9 outfits, the turquoise one is there
Jasmine did not NEED a goal in the original Aladdin movie, and her goal was NOT 'just to meet a guy'. She was being forced into marrying someone she didn't even know, let alone care for or love. She wasn't looking for a guy, she didn't want a guy or need a guy. There was a rule she had to marry by her birthday and pompous, stuck-up princes paraded around trying to impress her with wealth and power. She ran away from it all and met Aladdin (and also found out that much of her kingdom was poor, destitute and starving) and when he showed her his true self, she developed feelings for him. Part of her character is that when she breaks away from the tradition of arranged marriages, she finds out she is naive and that her kingdom needs change, that her people are a lot worse off than she thought, and she grows as a person because she needed a new perspective, needed to be independent and make her own choices. She had a desire to marry for love, and I remember her getting upset when 'Prince Ali' and her father are arguing over what is best for her like shes an object and she says "I am not some prize to be won!"
That line was exactly the one I was thinking of! How can the execs of this live action movie not see how forward-thinking and independent Jasmine already was? If she only cared about getting married to a guy, she would've gladly married the first one they paired her up with.
@@SeaStarTea Because loving a man is a sign of weakness for feminists.
@Johanna hanna Yes, I agree. I increasingly feel like I'm living in a madhouse and sensible people like you are becoming rarer. And you're totally correct about people seeming to try and find silly problems when there is no big crisis going on. It's really sad.
If that's not empowering, I don't know what is.
There is no one way to “act like a woman.” The problem with their comments on Jasmine’s character is that they don’t understand her in the first place and are saying what they THINK everyone else was saying. They’re trying to go along with what they believe is a progressive trend. Remember, these remakes are all about repackaging nostalgia in a way that makes it as appealing as possible to modern day culture (because money).
They hear people talking about feminism and at best have a superficial, warped understanding of it. And so instead of “women should have diverse personalities and storylines and display the full range of human emotion and not be LIMITED to aspirations of getting a man” you get “uhh, Jasmine loved a dude, right? That’s bad or something, r-right?”
Had they said they wanted to give Jasmine a more expansive character arc involving how she would become the ruler of her country, I don’t think that would’ve been as much of a problem.
Woman: *is interested in man*
Hollywood: Oh my god! Her only goal is to marry a man, she has no character!!
hey guys its me They’ve clearly never watched _Daria_ , because Daria’s parents are married, yet the mother still has a job as a lawyer.
Not to mention, these idiots are only perpetuating the notion that men dominate over women, if they think women have to avoid men at all costs in order to be independent. And yet they have the gall to call *us* misogynistic.
The only men that Hollywood wants to receive female attention are the directors and producers in charge of casting.
ARC the Clarinet Master 💯 agree
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She wasn't even interested in a relationship, and was fighting against being married off at that time. Meeting someone and falling in love happened as a result of her courageous rebelliousness. Them now saying she was all about trying to meet someone...holy shit, dude. No. She was the first Disney princess to not only not have a goal of a man, but to be pushing against it when being forced.
You pointed out the VERY same misconception about Jasmine that a lot of people had about Ariel from Little Mermaid. Ariel wanted to see the upper world. Meeting a guy she fell for just made her actually DO it instead of moping over it. Yes, she made a mistake trusting Ursula, but she was 16 (I think) and you tend not to think things through at that age.
Ariel still wasn't held accountable for her actions at the end of the film though. That was the bigger issue. That was the point of her sacrificing herself in the original. Her dad ended up changing more than she did.
@@ValD98 Because in the end, she corrected the problem she cause, and her father realized that it was his overly domineering and that it was all his fault. If he let his little girl, his YOUNGEST, who frankly has no real value as a royal political piece (First borns, princes and princesses, tend to be married off for political reasons) follow her heart, none of it would have occurred.
Actually, her disobedience got rid of one of King Triton's greatest enemies, which to me, sounds like a great mitigating reason as to why he won't punish her.
She got MARRIED at 16 ! Made her poor father believe it was all his fault and she also willingly went to the sea witch. But its all okay beacuse she "corrected" her mistake. She's a terrible princess and should not be looked up to.
@@skittyzee1577 So she was a late bloomer. She didn't get married at 12, oh well. And if you're going to say that Ariel is a terrible princess, then they all ARE.
I don't like that first film at all. It's generic as fuck. But i do love the cartoon series.
Walt Disney is probably rolling in his grave. The man had innovation in his blood and always lived to try new things. He created Mickey Mouse with Ub Iwerks, He created Donald, Goofy, Daisy and Minnie. He made the first Animated Feature Film ever, and he made amusment parks. But no Disney wants to make *retro movies* . When George Lucus gave Star Wars to Disney they said they wanted to make a *retro movie* but Lucus said I hate retro movies I always loved to try new things. And when Disney made the Muppets (2010) and Muppets Most Wanted. Disney told Frank Oz "We want a *retro movie* " and Frank said "When Jim Henson was alive he always wanted to try new things."
Disney also wanted his work to not just be for children. ( "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway.
"-Walt Disney)
@Vanellopexoxduty "Re-Released" not rebooted that's where the concept of the Disney vault came from.
I feel they could try and remake the movies with different art styles: they already have a lot of technologies and talented people to do so. Imagine watching The Lion King with Frozen-like visuals; Dumbo as a Tim Burton stop motion; The Little Mermaid with a true aquatic atmosphere... it would be an amazing oportunity to give these movies a new air and returning to their roots.
Instead, Disney's just remaking and creating sequels of their previous properties, which is kinda sad.
@ Spot on
Walt Disney also mentioned that he disliked sequels.
5:00 Did these people even notice the part where Jasmine rejected Aladdin when he was all "Look at me I'm such a cool prince!" and only started warming up to him when he started treating her like a human being?
I don't think the makers of the live action movie actually watched the original lol
yES agh
They missed the part where Jasmine is watching Aladdin riding in on his parade and she scoffs like "oh not this shit again."
"Empowering Jasmine"
But... She was already an independant woman able to think for herself...
Jasmine wasn't already empowered? Her entire thing was: "no, I DON'T just want to get married because I'm a princess. I want to see the world and if I do get married I want it to be to someone I love." That's what made her one of my favorite princesses as a kid!
Best part, she said “IF I get married” not “when” which meant that she was completely fine being a single & independent woman doing her own thing
But nope
She was “just looking for a guy”
@@kimuires thanks for the correction! It's been a while since I've seen the movie 😸
Ikr
Also she says "i´m not a prize that supose to be won" that's empowered
Nobody can make Disney remakes like GASTON, all of them cheaply done for a quick cash in like GASTON.
They got the right person , but the acting was a yan fest.
Gaston i meant
Thanks mate! That was great!
@@horacecrofford1584 *yawn
Stop 😂😂
I wish we could get original new storylines instead of redoing classics
Yes, kinda like Alice in wonderland worked, thanks to Tim Burton. But the difference is that Tim Burton actually wanted to do that movie, not sure if any of the directors of the new ones have enough fantasy for that :/
There will have to be a general shift in culture for that to happen, a shift toward freedom. Right now, most of the creative-types (who are generally inclined toward consensus and avoiding conflict), are under the watch of electronic mobs. On top of that, many creative types have been diverted into other media, like videogames, or have gone it alone as indie-developers. Big studios are shackles and attract somewhat less talent than before.
I'm writing new fairytales
Rebecca G That's great 🙃👌🏼
We are. There's Artemis Fowl, which will be more accurate than you might think, despite the black Butler. I know this because I saw an interview where he was asked about it.
Enough with the bloody remakes. I am sick of Disney disrespecting the original animates classics with these inferior live action remakes. The worse part is that the public will still watch these films and encourage Disney to make more. Disney are using nostalgia to make money and the public are helping them by watching these stupid films. People need to avoid these films and stick with the original animated classics.
Tao Jones T.jones you actually have a pretty good point disney should at least try to reboot the underrated stuff and maybe then it could become just as good as their popular films but instead we get remakes of popular movies
@@carlacarrero4975 I agree with you on that
I remember when Disney made live action remakes of Disney films, like jungle book and 101 dalamations with Glenn close. These films were creatively different and entertaining in their own way. The new remakes are void of any creativity and are completely flawed compared to the originals.
The biggest Problem isnt the play with Nostalgia, every normal Human beeing would know BY NOW that those remakes arent good.
The problem in my eyes are parents who dont give a shit what their kids are watching, that was the only reason why the new Beauty and the Beast got so big, a bunch of 10 year olds who wanted to see Emma watson without knowing the original Story!!
@@astralaris8712 I find it insulting that little kids today will watch these remakes instead of the superior originals. I have gone through the trouble of collecting al the Disney movies, just to make sure this doesn't happen to my kids.
The point of animation is to exaggerate expressions and character design. Why would you tone that down? It would sap the oomph from the animated impact. The low saturation and washed out color tones certainly doesn't help.
even in Live action you can be expressive look at comedian.... they have facial expression that would rival animation and guess how Genie in 1990 was based off of...
It's funny because the Battle Angel Alita adaptation caught flack for exaggerating the actress' eyes to more resemble an anime... and yet apparently the live-action Alita turned out pretty good.
chucheeness 💯 agree
@@MrCantStopTheRobot I think the purpose was to drive home the "uncanny valley" thing, and that you can practically be convinced she was as close to a human as possible _while_ looking as artificial as possible. That or it has some other symbolic thing. That is one good example of doing a good live-action adaptation, though. The Disney ones? I don't think so, it's like they downgraded their product into just expensive piles of boredom
Yeah
Princess Jasmine was the MOST empowering disney princess role model from my childhood. She was smart, independent, but still compassionate loyal and fun, and yes, also flawed but grew as an individual. Im also speaking as someone who watched the animated series but even in recent Disney media Jasmine is still the same likable and down to earth princess so many of us grew up with. So yeah, these writers dont comprehend the real meaning of her character and are just seeing her through today's "modern" viewpoint. Which sucks!
MaggiesHeartLove But still, why do girls even *need* role models? What’s wrong with them forming their own personalities and aspirations?
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster Because its in our human nature to do so.
Jerome Alday But how come no-one ever talks about boys having good role models? Why does everything have to be focused on girls all the time? Can’t we just treat the existence of girls as just being normal?
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster You should blame corporate media and the long history of prejudice towards women for that matter.
Jerome Alday Or... maybe it’s the feminists’ doing? Maybe *they’re* the ones making everything about gender? And yes, it can be argued that feminists are the true misogynists, and that Hollywood has only been more misogynistic since the feminists took over, but somehow I doubt that’s what you meant.
If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT! That's what I say.
Aww shit. I need fixing, I'm broke 😂
@@winchescumberholland5370 you're referring to the remake, right?😂
@@simoncooper6752 I'm referring to myself, I'm broke.
@@winchescumberholland5370 Awww. Sorry, meant no offence.
Exactly
I hate how they take princess like Belle and Jasmine, claim that they loved them just to trow them under the bus to show how "empowered" their version is
exactly! in 1991 BatB belle and the beast are equals, they learn to respect each other as such, but in the 2016 version belle becomes his fucking life coach and he shows her the library after being a snooty jerk over her favourite book, not because he just wanted to do something nice for her
it's honestly just so gross what they did to belle/the beast
sosha20 Exactly why I hated that miserable remake. They really didn't understand the material at all. There was zero chemistry between them. And Emma Watson may I mention was just an awful Belle. Her flat acting and she made Belle rather abrasive rather than gentle and graceful. And all I saw was Emma Watson, not Belle. Adeladie Kane would have made a wonderful Belle. *sigh*
sosha20 They also forced "feminism" on it. Belle was already empowering. She didn't need any added fluff.
@@twilightfades_7 Feminism yes but certain things don't fit. I mean from what I saw Gaston was intensely flirting Belle in the first scene but he wasn't rude. Belle was rude to him. Instead of empowering her they made her like the arrogant girl others accused her of while in the animated she answered with cold courtesy! She was still polite. Also what the heck with the others revealing to her how to lift the curse and what would happen if she didn't? It would be like saying to her "I dunno what you'll do but you'll fall in love with him!"
Also this thing with Cinderella meeting with the prince?! The whole thing was based on the fact that Cinderella had never seen him! Not to mention the things this video pointed out.
Feminism especially of the extreme part does not fit in all occasions because the films are supposed to show another era. They are supposed to be working on making the movies "more accurate" and they end up making them even with less sense than before. I understand that movies are supposed to pass on messages and they want to show "feminism" but for goodness sakes they are about to make Snow White holding some sign that says "vote to women" over here! They need to control themselves a little!
It’s unfair how Disney make women look really weak in live action movies
I watched Aladdin earlier today and Jasmine's main goal was to experience the world and not have others decide her life
I don’t like the remakes. In Beauty and the Beast especially, I highly dislike the beast. In the original, he was kind of trapped in this teenage mindset where he was angry and hurting and he expressed it by yelling, and he had these great humanizing moments and character development where neither him nor Belle changed for each other, they changed BECAUSE of each other. In the new one, he’s an arrogant jerk that is just mad all the time. It plays into a common fiction trope of the angry, abusive ‘bad boy’ falls in love with ignored, underestimated nerdy chick, and she changed him because love and all that crap. Also, the library in the original was a gift. The remake was just him bragging, THEN noticing she liked it.
Great way of putting it
How many of you remember the Tinkerbell intros when watching Dumbo or Cinderella on VHS?
Yes
I agree. I remember them as well vividly. I have 50 likes, which means 50 remember them as well. The problem is Disney never made them. They never existed.
Danm i feel old Now,we just to have the VCR in the livengroom and the tv hookt up to a extra tv in the addic i think i was like 8 or 7.
Yes, the good times. When I was younger.
Oh my god yes! I still have so many movies on vhs 📼 and still have the player
"Live action" of an animated film will always fall short, simply because animation exaggerates things for the effect. Thats why the Jaffar of animation looks so frightening and evil -- just look at his face. A human actor trying to look like that would be ridiculous or even silly. True of people, but especially true of animals. How can a real lion -- even a CGI one -- show the emotions that Scar did? You could tell what Scar thought and felt simply by his facial expressions and the way he moved. A lion can't do those things. The elephants in "Dumbo" showed emotion. Real elephants can't lift a haughty eyebrow to show their disdain for Mrs. Jumbo and her freakish child. And on and on. The genius of animation IS the exaggeration for these effects, and live actors simply can't do the same things. Animation opens up the imagination to a world beyond real life. In which version of "Beauty and the Beast" were the household objects fun to look at and more expressive?
Live action has a place, but remaking fantasy classics is not it.
THANK YOU! The best thing about animation is you DON'T have to be real in order to tell a 'realistic' feeling story but don't tell these hack this.
"A human actor trying to look like that would be ridiculous or even silly". Except Vincent Price. And yes, you hit the nail. These LA versions are trying to make the characters look as true to life as possible, because they can do it with CGI today, and simply don't understand what makes them actual characters. This Lion King could be a wildlife documentary and it would look the same, which is completely missing the point. They COULD do the exaggerated expressions you mentioned with CGI characters, but was they don't understand the essence of the characters and of animation that you so well explained, they think they need to look photorealistic, and so ruin the whole thing. Same happens with Alita, in an attempt to make her look like the manga character, Cameron stupidly made her cross the uncanny valley and she looks like a monster with those gigantic eyes.
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin (Shudder of horror!) Ding!
@Hannah Papernick-Yudin Hmmm. . . No. If they're butchering the story that much, let them put all that effort into something new.
Maleficent was live action and it was great
The fact that Aladdin looks so clean and proper right off the bat was a major red flag to me. It looks like he’s just some pretty boy who stumbled upon the lamp rather than an actual dirt poor thief
At least with Beauty and the Beast’s live action you could see everyone’s social class.
Hollywood continues to push their focus on creating "strong female characters" out of these princesses who were already strong to begin with. What audiences are left with is a watered down, lifeless film that pales in comparison to the original because the focus was put on a shallow effort to "fix" a problem that was never there instead of making a great film that respects and honors it's characters.
candiigurl7893 Not to mention, even if the original princesses weren’t “strong”, the feminists could just watch something like _Inside Out_ .
Yes!!! Also, I notice how a lot of Hollywood writers only deem female characters "strong" if they have traditionally masculine traits. Snow White and Cinderella are saved by the strong friendships they made and the compassion in their hearts, which are considered more "feminine" and therefore less valid idk. These characters were strong!!!
Veronica Munn 💯 agree
ARC the Clarinet Master Indeed. It seems like you can't be strong and feminine. Which is ridiculous.
@@veronicamunn7720 But… being strong *is* masculine. You’re literally contradicting yourself here, and you’re only part of the problem by wanting more “strong” female characters.
Instead, why can’t we have female characters who are just written like normal people, such as Punky Brewster, Daria, Hilda, Molly McGee, etc.?
Incidentally, making Jasmine WANT to be a part of ruling the country and changing Agrabah takes away some of the independence and agency she had in the original. What they're describing is a princess who WOULD take a political marriage because she's a good princess who focuses on the people's needs over her own.
Thedarkbunnyrabbit And ironically Jasmine's actress is not even Middle Eastern. 🤦🏻♀️Google search Medalion Rahimi as Jasmine. She should have played her and she is a Persian American actress. And the costuming also looks Indian instead of Arabian. 🤦🏻♀️
Seeing as everyone else is doing an excellent job talking about Jasmine's character, I'll talk a little about Cinderella. (Sorry, this got a bit rambly)
People seem to hate animated Cinderella because she "doesn't do anything and her problems are magically solved" or something along those lines. What her character needs isn't freedom, it's acknowledgement, and that can't be earned through work, only given through respect.. While she works in the house she isn't grumpy and bitter, she maintains a positive attitude and expresses kindness to those around her, even her own family that is mistreating her. It is her kindness that leads the mice to make a dress for Cinderella. They acknowledge and appreciate her. When she is torn down by her sisters, her fairy god mother remakes the gift of the mice ten fold, because of her kindness.
This isn't the climax of the movie though. That is when the mice free her from the attic. The mice show that they care for her by risking their lives and struggling with the key, all in an attempt to free her. In a way, she is freed by her own kindness. Her selflessness affects those around her. She may be a passive actor in the larger story beats, but they are set up by her own virtues early on.
Why must Disney always try to make their princesses look 'stronger'?! The characters are fine the way they are!
The genie looks like it is missing a couple of render steps. Jasmine looks like Jyn Erso in a store bought costume for the company's Halloween party, Aladdin looks older than Jafar, and the whole setting feels more like the backdrop of a Disney on Ice production than a place where actual people live. By FAR the worst of an already very mediocre bunch of movies.
andres rey 💯 And Jasmine frankly isn't even the right ethnic culture
Nah, it looks like a Bollywood movie starring Will Smith. Ironically enough Bollywood would have done more justice to the source material
You are correct about Disney not respecting the source material, I think the ‘creators’ they have now are extremely arrogant thinking that they can do better than the original when really all they want is to push an agenda.
I am not a fan of the live action remakes, they definitely lack that spark. They disrespect their audience and treat us like idiots by explaining everything and leaving nothing to our imagination. How many times have we seen a deux ex machina shoe horned in because the writers lack the imagination to actually come up with a good story line.
I grew up watching Disney, not a fan of all of them but I appreciate them as works of art. Now when Disney announces something I just roll my eyes in disgust. It’s a shame.
They've hired activists now, not 'creatives'. That's the problem.
It's such a shame that a revered company has fallen from grace. I've always anticipate every movie when I was still young, just waiting for the next family friendly movie which is both interesting and friendly for the family to watch and also is well thought of as a movie.
Now that I had grown up, I kinda miss those movies. Even if they are targeted to the child demographic, as a teenager you can still clearly see the themes and morals exhibited in the movie. It treats you real human experiences in the facade of the childish animated movie. That's the magic of the movies of the old.
They have a wrong direction with their movies and if this continues down the long run it may damage the company's prestige when most of the people wake up from this kind of mess.
This.
The new creators are indeed arrogant since they treat the animated masterpieces as flawed or childish, when in reality the live actions remakes come off as flawed and childish.
feels like thy destroy Walt disney dream and legend :/.... and i feel really bad for him and any great genarastion who made happend to make him wel know
That headline is rediculous. The original storytellers didnt go into it thinking oh we have to makesure jasmine is an empowered female. As a female i find the way Hollywood talks down to us FLAT OUT disgusting...
nill wings Exactly! I’m glad someone gets it!
I’m just glad at least some writers get this, if _Hilda_ is anything to go by - it’s just a shame the people behind these remakes don’t get this.
Another heartless remake of a classic. Definitely skipping this. And the genie looks so cursed... wtf
I laughed so hard when I saw the genie
Nichole BJD *All* the actors are wrong. And it looks like Bollywood instead of Arabia.
Teal Watt Me too. I thought it was a bad joke.... and then I found out it wasn't.
Nichole BJD pbs.twimg.com/media/DNgexRrUEAAja4Y.jpg This is a picture of Medalion Rahimi, a Persian American actress who sent this picture on Instagram to Disney Studio's page. And they carelessly never responded to her. She was robbed. She should have been Jasmine.
The 2010s, the decade of bad reboots
Groomsman nope BATB, jungle book and Alice& wonderland were all really good and made $1 billion dollars at the box office
Bobbyking So then 2019 I suppose
@@Groomsman well maybe not dumbo.
Bobbyking Fair enough
@@Groomsman maybe lion king might do good too
I full heartedly agree with the point that it feels like these people who work on remakes seem to lack a fundamental understanding of the originals. I don't think there's a problem with attempting to fix a problem with the original, but the creators of the live action seem to have misdiagnosed their "problem." I never thought of it before, but you're right that there are a lot of lesser known Disney movies that would have benefitted from a remake instead. I would put in a vote for Treasure Planet too.
Treasure planet is still badass, but a live action remake would be something. However I can’t stand the arrogance of the creators of the remakes, since they treat the animated originals as inferior and actually believe they have improved them with the remakes, which are completly more flawed than the originals.
AndreNitro X1000 I do think the "3D bias" is a real thing. It's viewed as a "thing of the past" without any real justification other than it being an older medium. Because of this eagerness to be out with the old and in with the new, this introduces a lot of ... arrogance.
It also comes with tunnel vision. "Because I'm remaking in live action, it has to be better," and so either other aspects like story are either viewed as less important or too much care is paid to graphics (...or agenda), leaving fewer resources for other aspects.
The only reason I even liked the remakes for beauty and the beast is the correct art sytles that would have been appropriate at the time and the wardrobe/piano love story, and Cinderella because of the dress and magic effects. Otherwise they were the same and I didn't even really enjoy emma Watson as Belle. (It is an issue for some actors that when you're set in a role, you tend to get asked to auction for more roles just like that one.) Both Hermione Granger were long haired brunettes with a love of books and fall in love with an uncouth beast (really don't like Ron) but I just really couldn't completely buy her as Belle.(also the dress bugged me for some reason) and everyone seemed a little serious (the only real relationships I bought were the prince/Cinderella and the Duke/stepmother [she wanted something and he wanted something and some marriages still turn out like this today too])
The theme and overall feel of Treasure Planet would definitely allow for a much better choice as a remake.
@terracannon876 Tell me about it. I'm getting sick of the round faces, huge eyes, and flat nosebridges in every single 3D animated Disney character. Ironically, while 2D may be seen as inferior, there is much more variety and variability in character designs.
If I remember correctly, The Princess and the Frog didn't do as well as they had hoped, and that's when they nuked most of their 2D animators. I like TP&TF, but I feel that if they stuck to the original version it was inspired by (Frog Princess series), it might have done better. I was crazy hyped when I heard of a movie coming out inspired by TFP, but was really disappointed when I saw the missed opportunities and how much they excluded from the original story. Still a great movie, was just a bit disappointing for some TFP fans.
And I thought Jasmine was already a pretty 'empowered' princess. She wants to marry for love, not because she needs to find a suitor. She rejects everyone her father brings to meet her, and she is always free to make that choice (until the villain tries to force her), she wants to see the world, wants to be free to do other things, and she takes matters into her hands and does that... and she doesn't need no man to help her pole vault across gaps between buildings. Then she has some actual real fun hanging out with a guy she meets that she really isn't allowed to marry but she doesn't care about the rules - heck, she straight up makes her dad change the law so she can do what she wants. That seems pretty empowered to me, or at least reflective of the girl-power attitude of the 90's/00's anyway. Definitely not 'oppressed' by any stretch of the imagination.
Jasmine wanted the freedom to choose her future. How did they assume her so wrong?
The procedure is not to study or honor the original. The procedure is to depict and spread buzzwords through advertisement, and rely on sheer attention to sell tickets. All consumers are slow to learn. Once consumers do show signs of learning, shareholders will sell stock while there is still profit. The "spirit" of Disney died decades ago, and now its brand is a body for vulture-behavior.
@@MrCantStopTheRobot Well said
@@dreamingblue3939 Thank you Azure Reptilian.
I recently watched Aladdin with my brother for the first time in probably 10 years, and I'm absolutely baffled that people think Jasmine's goal was "really just to meet a guy." Like did they even watch the movie? Can people stop fabricating issues with disney princesses and looking over all the great qualities they already have? This is making me salty. I'll stop ranting now 😂
Disney doesn't miss the point, they just don't care. The remakes are objectively worse than the originals. Great video too
Its not Jasmines movie tho, its Aladdins movie, if it were to focus on Jasmine then call the movie Jasmine instead
True and even though Jasmine was an empowered princess already, the main point of the movie was the friendship that formed between Aladdin and the genie, maintaining a promise as a form of integrity, and the importance of allowing someone to be free.
Makes me now think there's a play on concepts with them making Will Smith the Genie. The slave could never be free until the master realized freedom was something that the slave was entitled. However, there was a couple of catches until he would even release the genie. This could be taken far out of concept and a very bad idea.
Jasmine is not the main character either. It's the "political agenda for Woman empowerment" that's the star, and I am so sick of it.
Sidenote: please look up Cinderella: Stop blaming the victim on YT. It's a 13 minute video that defends why classic Cinderella isn't as bad as some modern viewpoints try to make her out to be & I can't recommend it enough.
Things wrong with Aladdin:
• Jasmine has been resorted to a feminist agenda when Jasmine already possesses great qualities and desires (and I'm female)
• Jasmine isn't Middle Eastern and played by an Indian (Medalion Rahimi, who is a Persian American actress should have played her: pbs.twimg.com/media/DNgexRrUEAAja4Y.jpg)
• Jafar - the worst acting I've ever seen
• Aladdin doesn't look poor
• Aladdin looks older than who he should be playing
• Looks like Bollywood
• Indian clothing
• Atrocious and uninspiring CGI for Genie
• The CGI in general looks stale and artificial, examples: The Cave of Wonders was a dull and bland looking cave that was just sitting there so it didn't even emerge from the ground and it looked like a light switch came when it became illuminated (no color inside it either) or that horrific ugly part of Aladdin on rocks with lava surrounding him (it looked literally fake and like CGI from 2001)
• Abu and Iago, charismatic animal characters, are resorted to boring and plain real animals. They needed to look more caricature like. Especially when they are meant to entertain.
Misrepresenting the old to make the new look better is nothing new, It had happen with Cinderella and Belle, part of the controversy surrounded the Film was Watson's apparent improvements of the character that either fell flat (Belle being an inventor) or were just stupid. (No corset and helping design a prom dress that doesn't hold a candle to the original.) Cinderella had similar problems with (I believe the director) calling her too passive.
On the plus side these Remakes have a bit of a fireworks effect, pretty and have your attention for awhile but then they're gone. Originals are timeless and are not that easy to replace.
Gaby Droz well said.
the firework analogy, genius.
I think The Rock would've made a better genie than Will Smith. Not that I'm bashing on him, I just don't see him as Genie. Then again, I'm pretty sure Dwayne has a thousand roles to fill at the moment...
He still wouldn't have the Voice but he would be a hundred times better than Will Smurf. He even has the same upper Body Shape and has practicaly no Hair on his Head like Geni
Will Smith is a terrible actor who can only play himself for his own ego. I totally fail to see what people see in him.
I would have loved to see Dwayne Johnson is this role. Smith has charisma and charm but it's not on the same level as Dwayne. I think he could have really made the role his own without copying Williams at all. Smith might do fine. I've just seen Dwayne do more character acting.
@@ArnisKaye Totally agree! I very much like Dwayne and I think he would make for a great and fun genie, besides looking more the part.
@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 What about Terry Crews? Would he be better than smith?
As a 90's kid I know the originals are superior. No school like old school.
So much yes for Black Cauldron getting more Love. Prime real estate for Kingdom Hearts4.
Btw have you seen Alita Battle Angel?
"Black Cauldron" deserves a remake only this time they ought to read the book.
The Black Cauldron was based off The Chronicles of Prydain a book series of five it deserves to get the full adaptation.
@@RazorRex
Yep, from what i have read the book is quite good, hell a series for their streaming service would better than the movie they made.
@powerstar 2028
Disney will either make a blockbuster or a disney channel movie. What makes you think it could be one or they are going to risk it?
Will Smith looks very uncanny as the gennie.
More uncanny than as a fish?
@Eugene Oisten All the Above
@icecream hero Meh… He's not really that uncanny to me. I just see a blue Will Smith (which is a problem in itself). However, I think we call all agree that he's more frightening than LA Jafar.
Smurf Smith is way to big for the remake of the Smurfs
He looks like a Smurf LOL
I don't like how Jasmine looks.
Tío Zorro Me neither. It's complete appropriation. Jasmine should have been played by Medalion Rahimi who is a Persian American actress. Google search: Medalion Rahimi as Jasmine. Medalion even atted Disney's instagram page and they carelessly never even took the time to acknowledge her. And her clothing is also the problem because it is from a completely different culture: which is India not Arabia.
@@twilightfades_7 I agree. Naomi literally doesn't fit
The internet has done nothing but vindicate my decision since the announcement of the LA Remakes, to NEVER see them because they're mindless cash grabs. Turns out they weren't mindless, they were mentally impaired. Which is slightly worse. At least a mindless cash grab would be a pure shot for shot remake. Instead they also have to misunderstand everything.
Hate to see what they're going to do to Jane Porter then.
I have the same sentiment when it comes to some music. They tend to miss the point as well as forget why the original had a "kick" to it.
Heck, even Resident Evil 2 remake did it, too. For example, in the OG Lion King, Nala never went looking for Simba. She was a hungry lioness that was preying on Pumba and Timon. Only then when she pinned Simba down, he recognized her as Nala. She's confused wondering how this lion knows her until he said it's "me, Simba" and she bugs out in enjoyment later on.
So far, the Disney remakes, most of the actors look like they're standing around saying their lines. When, in animation, there's so much movement. An example for Aladdin, is when Jafar jumps in-between the Sultan and Prince Ali dejecting about the idea of Ali being a suitor for Jasmine. The banter was entertaining. It feels like now everything has to be gritty or serious.
The Beauty and the Beast was made for people whom never seen the original. I didn't like that Lumierre had feet in the remake. I liked that he hopped around in the original. Most of the acting was stale. Especially for Emma Watson. Seriously, if you're going to sing the opening song, at least move your arms and twirl or something. The Prologue intro is more entertaining than the remake's.
The want people to look like "assholes" but you gave them a reason. The Enchantress just barged into the Prince's ball unannounced. He dejects her then gets turned into what he is. THIS is suppose to make him the "bad guy" where in the original, it was just a knock on his door. He opened it. Saw how ugly she was and mocked her.
These people can't tell stories. If they do, they're more contradictions. They want you to root for the "small guy" even if they were the ones in the wrong in the first place. If I steal, killed, betrayed people, how am I the one who gets rewarded in the end with no comeuppance? These are the kind of stories modern movies/cartoons do now. Catra from She-Ra is a prime example.
They're ironically turning strong characters into hollow shells of themselves. Little to no real personality. Always in charge. No flaws. Every judgement they make is the right move. And, if they're wrong, it's because someone else screwed up or someone has to reassure them that it wasn't their fault. Why have growth when we can just start off someway and don't change near the end. At least their views. Why is a story about a racist man who ends up living in a neighborhood with immigrants becomes tolerable of them by the end is much more interesting than these hollow movies.
We all got to be relateable:
Belle and Beast? Oh, we both lost our mothers and my dad was a dick.
Lion King? Lets just redo Black Panther. Add in all black cast as well.
Dumbo? Someone's gonna put in something about slavery and the evil of white men harming animals.
We can't have genuine stories anymore. Coco had me tearing up near the middle and the end of the film.
Even so, I wouldn't want them to remake Treasure Planet or Atlantis. Some jackass is gonna be like "well, Captain Amelia or Kida and Audrey weren't STRONG enough women. We can fix that."
*gives standing ovation*
JnG-Artimation Yeah... somehow I doubt they’d do that to Captain Amelia - she was already feminist-pandering as it is, making an already-existing male character female. And you’re just part of the problem by defending her.
I couldnt agree more!!!
Well said!!!
Disney should remake their weaker flims instead of the classic ones
Besides who's going to remember these remake they'll allways remember the animated ones
Remakes are going to be forgettable anyways idk why they can’t come up with new ideas instead of using nostalgia for money.
Has jasmines actress even seen the cartoon version?
Who didn't!?
I would like to see a live Gargoyles movie. Gargoyles can be CGI with live humans. Some of the voice actors can reprise their roles. Elisa Maza is a great character.
Don't let Bay get his grubby paws on it.
Yes I 100% agree The Black Cauldron deserves a live action remake. It was based off The Chronicles of Prydain a book series of five. The series deserves to get fully adapted and follow the books more.
Jasmine was the second strongest Disney princesses after mulan. Do these people even know what they're remaking?
godot Personally, I think Belle was better.
Also, why is it that only *now* I see people other than feminists defending Jasmine? It used to be that the feminists were directing flak at Ariel, and we were pointing out Jasmine as a worse example. So now, all of a sudden, she’s a strong character? Make up your minds already!
Also, what about other media, like _Punky Brewster_ or _Inside Out_ ? How come no-one is bringing up those as examples of shows and movies with female protagonists done right?
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster those "feminists" aren't true feminists. They are idiots. That's my point. That they give flak to those movies while they should praise them
godot But if those movies have “strong” female characters, then shouldn’t we, you know, *not* praise them? Because they’re too feminist? Just because feminists dislike a character, doesn’t automatically make them a good character. Instead, we should be praising actually well-written and relatable characters, like Punky Brewster, for example. Remember those? Female characters that were written primarily as characters?
They don't really care about what they're remaking. It's a job to them first, and art second, if ever.
Instead of Hollywood pointlessly “remaking” all these Disney Classics (ie. fixing what isn't broken) , what about dedicating time, money, energy, & effort to make the rest of the NARNIA books into movies? 😮❓📚
Oh my gosh! I hope you read your comments, because YOU ARE 100% SPOT ON! I’ve lost all respect for Disney in the last several years-so much so that I no longer go to the parks or buy any merch. This modern Disney is destroying everything it touches. ABC television is garbage, Star Wars is a shell of what it was. Marvel characters are social justice sounding boards. ESPN injects too much politics. The content of their current animated features lacks the heart of Disney’s Walt days. I hate Disney Corp.
They truly miss the mark with the remakes. They are just no better than the originals.
Jungle Book says otherwise.
Wylie28 They missed the mark with that too. No clear message or narrative. It was a perfect opportunity to rework the original written story for a compelling rich narrative. In terms of that they missed the mark. And I felt Baloo and Kaa lacked charisma personality wise.
I don't bother with these remarks they have no heart.
I believe the live actions are not exciting because they are trying to force a semi-#MeToo/Women empowerment movement. They are trying to make the Princesses /heroines see like they are more, but truly they don't need to because anyone who has read fairy tales/myths and legends will know the context of the stories and can form an immediate impression of the characters. Honestly, it is best to pull out your books and read verses see it at the movies because these movies leave alot to be desired.
Kaza Luv or maybe their doing this movies because of money not everything is about sjws most of the time is about cash,dinero if you catch my drift well except for beauty and the beast that one had the all people hate that woman read plot
Cof cof Beauty and the beast cof cof
@@carlacarrero4975 Nah, it IS about SJW ideology. Of course the primary motivation of Disney as a company is a cash grab, but the writers/directors/actors behind all are, like nearly everyone in Hollywood these days, SJWs/feminists/BLMs, etc. So they make everything to be about that.
Alexandre Martins oh then i cant wait for Jasmine to be a man hating uptight ashole and then have aladdin dressed up as a man because their culture is sexist and homophobic and then aladdin becomes a transgender and makes out with Jasmine while it is reveal that jasmines dad is gay and then he and the genie fall in love and toguether they help belle from beauty and the beast to promote woman literature and act like steroetypes note this is 100% sarcasm
@@carlacarrero4975 Yes, perfect! XD
Maleficent... too many errors to point. Just look at the written articles online. They'll tell you. The Jungle Book remake was a perfect time to apply the original written story and rework it. And that's why there was no clear message or narrative at all despite it being visually stunning. It lacked rich storytelling and not much was incorporated in the in-between parts. And there was no climax. Which is why as I saw this in the theater unfortunately found myself bored and drifting off. Those reasons also align as to why Maleficent was awful.
My reasons for watching the classical movies: the gorgeous STYLISH animation of Jafar, Scar and Beast. Absolute perfection. I've drawn them many times and got inspired by them. Every frame is a masterpiece because Disney were good at creating heroes, but MASTERS at creating fascinating villains.
If they ever decide to make a live action Hercules (Hades) I'll sue them, if they decide to make a live action Hunchback of Notre Dame (Frollo) I'll KILLLLLL THEM!
So many beautiful exotic looking Arabian women out there and they choose her to play princess Jasmine 🤷🏾♀️
Disney got most of their successes from their beautiful and creative ANIMATED movies. I keep wondering to myself why they keep obnoxiously insisting on taking their timeless originals that people STILL watch and just make them with real people. (Real actors and actresses who look bored AF, but know it will make money anyways....)
I wish for them to go back to Animated fairytales// original stories.... I just think they were more well thought out and brought more magic to the screen then those "REAL" people movies. I digress.
You know, BATB had been shelved earlier but then came back in '91. Cant they go through the archives or remake the lesser successes?
Money. I know you already know it's money, and you don't want to admit it... but a better route of questioning would be, "huh, how can we divert power back to artists instead of corporate-media?"
It's not just having an understanding of the original Disney films, they need an understanding of the original source material. The further you get from an old myth the less it connects to people. Disney's films were often the perfect median between the myth and the present day.
I hate these remakes
Imagine if they invested money into new and creative ideas rather than just pumping out recycled content
If Walt Disney was alive, he would be so disappointed
There is a japanese pharse, "Don't fix what is not broken." yet Disney never got the memo.
These remakes make Disney fell like antialchemists, while Alchemists were known to make miracles, turn stones into a precious material like gold, Disney takes these amazing and loved animated and turn them into pointless movies with no soul or respect for their fans...its all about money and Social Justice Cr*p.
I agree with you 100 percent Naomi ruined Jasmine for me what was once a strong independent confident woman in the cartoon turned into a helpless wimpy girl in the live action, good example
I'm actually really sad these remakes messed up so much on the character and story side of things, because to be honest I find it really interesting from an aesthetic standpoint to see these cartoons I grew up with translated into live-action form. Ironically enough, I think I would actually want to see them if they were just shot-for-shot carbon copies of the originals, just because I find it fascinating to see the story in a new medium like that which isn't limited by practical challenges of stage productions.
i totally agree.
remakes merely an excuse for lack of creativity. i yet to see a remake of anything that would surpass original besides graphical update
at least sequels, prequels, spinoffs, and alternate universes add new story
remakes however are usually just rehashes
Jungle Book.
And there is no excuses present. Walt Disney legally required whomever owned the company to remake these movies.
Jasmine: A middle eastern woman standing up to traditions, that marries the person she loves and chooses against the rules of the land.
I don't know how that could be empowering.
To tell you the truth... ALADDIN's whole goal throughout this ENTIRE movie is to marry Jasmine!!! It's the reason he makes nearly EVERY choice that he does! (He becomes Prince Ali because of her... etc.) Jasmine didn't even know she wanted to marry Aladdin until a while after 'A Whole New World', in which she actually does tell her father that she chooses him. She wants freedom, choice, and to marry whomever she chooses! What's not empowered about that??
This is so sad. They’re gonna continue making so many remakes that the future generations won’t even watch the classics, but the horrendous remakes. It’s not hard to sit your kids down and let them watch the classic movies!! Smh the world is going to dust 🤦🏾♀️
I like the Cinderella remake because it felt like effort was actually put into it in the costumes and sets and real animals and good casting, and there are a million Cinderella retellings anyway so it didn’t feel too weird. Beauty and the Beast was just painful to watch because it was trying to be the exact same, but then not and the acting felt forced and awkward.
Jasmine: Wants freedom, especially with regards to marriage. Runs away to experience it, meets Aladdin on the road.
Hollywood: Damn she waitin for dat d.
Really?
What i hate the most about the movies is that the depth of the Characters are missing, one of the reason why i HATE The Beauty and the Beast remake.
The CGI is so bad, because the most important part is missing: Facial Gesture and Mimik.
All those animals (Jungle Book and the Beast expecially) dont have any expression, which they had in the original. And that was what made them so likeable.
Now all those Animals look like irl Animals, which is bad, because now all emotions are pretty much lost!
Disney is to big to sustain its self and running out of ideas .
Like the holy Roman empire......
It literally pisses me off when that producer says "Jasmine didn't have enough of a goal, it was really just to meet a guy." Her goal was exactly the opposite of that: to run away from a guy that she didn't find worthy. I am a guy and when I first watched Aladdin as a little kid, I instantly fell in love with her for being such a fun, adventurous, independent and passionate woman, which was typically not the way women were portrayed at the time.
They don't give Jasmine any credit. She had the guts to kiss Jafar to distract him and help Aladdin. No other princess used her brain and body like her
Fun fact: OG Jafar was designed by a woman. Just wanted to throw that out there for anyone who starts bitching about how older Disney didn't have enough 'female voices' back in the 80s and 90s. Maybe not, but stop burying those who did contribute to some of the best movies and characters from the company.
But anyway, live-action is much cheaper and faster to make than animation and that is one factor in all of this. Of course, nostalgia is another factor but being someone who grew up with a lot of these movies I'm just going to say this. The nostalgia has run dry, or to put it better the FORCED nostalgia has run dry. I love these movies but part of the reason I love them is that they themselves are entertaining. Disney is trying so hard to grab back those 80s and 90s kids when most of us who still love these movies do want to move on. We do want to see what Disney can do next and after being so horrifiically disappointed with WiR 2, the live action remakes and the glut that is Frozen, I just want it to end. I do want fresh, new IPs and I want the old ones to be honored. You can make new things while respecting the old but the problem is that we have too many people who want to CHANGE the old stories without looking into whether they should and part of the reason why these films are so timeless to begin with and, believe it not blogmoms, it has nothing to do with the films being feminist enough which is another thing I am getting sick of.
They're not changing these female characters into strong women. A woman can be strong in so many different ways and come from so many different backgrounds and even as an adult, I hate how when it comes to empowering women you have to be and stick to one trope when it honestly feels like for boys the idea was that while they do grow from boy to man, there is a lot of heart in them that they don't loose on that way to being a hero. They mature but they don't lose sight of who they are or who they represent. With female characters they're already set in such a narrow and stony character type they don't change or grow, rather everything else happens around them, they remain the same and the story just sort of goes along with them, making them the least developed characters in the whole thing.
Another way to look at it is a lot of these writers aren't writing a character or a group of characters that can touch up on so many people, regardless of their backgrounds. What they're doing is creating vessels for themselves and projecting themselves as the ideal that everyone should worship. This is why that Princess scene in WiR 2 was so horrible and out of place. They removed the things that kids DO love about the Princesses and replaced it with an image that they, the adults, are more comfortable with. The whole point of that wasn't so much to empower YOUNG girls but rather to validate ADULT women, which was why mostly 20 somethings and older were the ones who gushed over that, not kids who don't look for these characters to be 'real' in order to 'relate' to.
Adults with little to no imagination want things to be real not so much because it's mature but rather because it doesn't require them to apply themselves in a situation where they have to change themselves or see things from another perspective. This is why we see so much half-hearted pushing for these boring ass characters that they then labeled as 'relatable'. I think in the end, they don't understand the difference between a character being RELATABLE (which can cover up a wider range) and a character to be an exact mirror of them which is what they really want. They want to be validated and the older Princesses of yore did not do that. That's why they have to constantly change them to fit in with the norms without realizing that even if the times were different, the fact that the character wasn't exactly like you isn't a problem. When I was 16, I was nothing like Ariel but I still loved The Little Mermaid for various reasons. The songs, the animation, the storytelling. I wasn't looking at Ariel for as role model because 1) I didn't want to be her and 2) Even as a young kid I already knew Ariel was not real but I still had fun with it anyway.
I think the problem with Disney now is again, they're hiring ACTIVISTS and not writers or artists. And because of that, you get shit like Wreck-it-Ralph 2, Beauty and the Beast Live Action and so on. They're not focused on telling a story that will become timeless like many of the classic movies. They're focused on getting an audience to worship them for their ideals and want to hear all the reports about how they 'broke new ground' despite doing the cheapest thing you can do; a remake.
Even that one Cinderella movie from the 90s where she was a bit older and one of the step-sisters was on her side and just as abused did it better because Cinderella was still in a situation where she was too young to leave. In this, she was old enough to leave and still honor her father without being abused. Her choice to stay didn't make her independent. It just made her an idiot for not realizing she could have left her step-family to the curb earlier, even if the times were different. The remakes aren't creating timeless characters. They're just creating bigger tropes than the ones they claim to be against.
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So... how come no-one in the comments is drawing attention to media like _Punky Brewster_ or _Hilda_ , that the feminists could just enjoy instead? You guys are acting like the *only* media with female protagonists are the ones the feminists complain about.
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster When did we ever imply that?
Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid Well, all the antifeminists ever talk about is the media which feminists whine and bitch about, when they could be listing examples of media which the feminists might actually like as a counter argument.
Also, why is it that when feminists use the “women were doing it back then” argument (e.g. _Hidden Figures_ ), we get mad about it, and yet it’s completely fine for us to use that argument? The reason why I personally dislike _Hidden Figures_ is because it goes the intersectional route by lumping women and black people together, furthering the notion that women are just some “minority” group that needs constant pandering to - but why is it that antifeminists are always using the same arguments they criticise feminists for using?
when emma watson said she was controlling belle's traits and costumes because she was 'not feminist enough' or whatever in the original i was like ??? did she ever watch the original?? there's a reason belle is called the most progressive princess lol. she doesn't need to wear a corset-less dress or invent things to be independent and strong
Disney missed the point that Dumbo was in an abusive circus. In the trailer they make it seem like everything is all perfect, when in all reality dumbo was taken away from his mother because humans were abusing him and the mother attacked them. Then the mother was put in a really small cage that she could barely fit in. In the trailer there are people cheering and being happy, when in the movie under rarely showed people and when they did it was either abusive or a clown.
I wish someone would remake Anastasia as a live action.
That was one of the best movies I ever watched as a kid and I don’t get why it doesn’t get more love.
Also the best relationship in an animated movie where the 2 leads actually have chemistry.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I wish Disney would remake the black cauldron and other underdeveloped movies.
Im really curious to see how the live action Mulan will turn out. Imagine.
Impersonates a male soldier so her elderly father doesn't have to fight. Earns respect and admiration of other soldiers through strength and determination. Destroys the Hun army and becomes a national hero.
Disney: Nah, still not empowering enough!!!!!
Claidheamh-mòr Roberts And the sad thing is, the feminists will probably someday call the *remake* “not empowering enough”, and even antifeminists will be defending it - it’s just a never ending cycle.
The animated Lion King and Aladdin are amazing works of art in so many levels, even to this day. Do I dare say they are magical? There is no need to remake them, they are perfect the way they are.
Agree on every point. I said to my husband the other day that at the end of every Disney live action remake, the first thing to pop into my head has always been the question: "Why?" The thing is, I don't think any of them were terrible. But they weren't GOOD, either. They're somewhere in between, and I'm left feeling like I just watched a movie that could've been so much better if only it had been more like the original, if only it had hadmore HEART. But these movies are so watered down. Some might say that's just my nostalgia talking, but I don't think so. Thus far none of the remakes have surpassed their original, and in my opinion, makes them look and feel like an unnecessary cash grab.
Girl did you intentionally talk like that? You sounded soooo sooooo unexcited. I liiiive though lol 😂
I think a Hunchback of Notre Dame could be somewhat decent at the least. I think it would still work as a musical unlike the la beauty and the beast, and they could remove the gargoyles, because the original movie was good, but it had tone problems
Since the gargoyles were in the original novel I don’t think they should be removed, but they could be toned down.
If the get the right Actors for it then, Yes. But if they give us Boyscout Frolo who can't say Hell because his Mother would be mad at him then, No
Bourbon Brisk oh god I hope they never make it . Yes a live action movie would be good but they would fuck it up soooo bad and everyone knows it
@@yiannis5972 True, and I know Frollo wouldn't be that threatening with how they cast
@@taylorboney1089 emm, they weren't
I never caught those moments in Cinderella. I always had a thought that Cinderella was a good live action to me. But thanks to your points, I never realize how "lazy" she sounds when it came to her stepfamily and the situations, she was in. And not to mention, no gloves for her gown? That should have been the best icing on the cake for her.
I have a feeling that my personal favourite from my childhood, Pocahontas, will never be remade. I don't think Disney has the balls.
The lion king is so amazing it does not need a remake!!!!!
I'm also underwhelmed with the remakes.Part of the problem is picking such beloved films that didn't have much to fix-animation is a powerful medium & live action won't be able to compete with the color & scale of grandness of the blockbusters. If Disney did the movies you suggested they would have a better chance of wowing us.
6:00 Irony is, it was Aladdin who’s character was almost entirely about finding love... Jasmin is also the only princess along with Bell to play a role in her being rescued instead of just being helpless.
You nailed it. Disney remakes miss the point because nobody at Disney really cares anymore. This is why remakes are invariably bland and frequently awful. The remakes would respect and understand the source material. Right, because it's Disney? Nope, Disney really doesn't make the effort to either understand the originals or why the characters worked.