INLINE vs ICE SKATING .. Differences Explained
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Inline ... or ice ... what are the differences?
First let's compare the blades. The ice blade is rockered, which means the front and back are rounded. Here you see a hockey skate but the same applies to dance skates as well. Speed skates are different, but that's a topic for another video.
These dice illustrate the blade's contact surface.
A typical inline skate has a much longer contact surface.
Please also note that rockered inline skates do exist, which make them more like hockey skates.
What this all mean in real life is that on ice skates it's more difficult to keep balance. A correct stance is more important on ice skates. Or as Bill Stoppard puts it; on rollerblades STAY LOW. On ice skates STAY LOWER (difference #1).
This is important not only for balance but also to get a good grip.
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The edges. The edges are completely different. Still, inline and ice skating are very similar. Crossover turns are the same. Transitions feel the same. Even slalom turns are mostly the same. However, the T-stop (drag stop) does not really work on ice. It's because dragging a skate behind you on ice does not create much friction. (difference #2).
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The hockey stop works well on ice ... thus the name hockey stop ... but it's much more difficult on inline skates (difference #3). It's because an ice skate easily just shaves off some ice while for inline skates the physics are completely different.
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The weight. Hockey skates are lighter than inline skates. Lighter skates make you quicker and let you go on for longer. A few hundred grams may not sound that much, but I do notice the difference. (difference #4)
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Finally I'd like to mention that falling on ice so much better (difference #5). Just glide it off and up you go. This is the most important difference in my opinion.
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Although it's good to be aware of these differences, you should not forget that inline and ice skating are ninety percent the same. Just enjoy both kinds. The better you are at inline skating, the better you are at ice skating. And vice versa.
I tried doing a waltz jump with rollerblades, i couldnt walk down stairs for a few days
Why?
Misael Mora Valerio Their balls got in the way
@@nassiemartinez4399 😂😂
why? im an inline guy, so i want to be able to do jumps on inline skates.
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I think the biggest difference is that edges work differently. On ice the more you lean on the edge the more grip you get. On inline the more you lean, the more you slide. One ice it's the opposite. The less you lean, the more you slide. Same on skis by the way.
Very good point. When I think about it, yes, totally agree.
Gottfried Che
Completely agree, @Gottfried Chen!. On a side note, this point leads to what I perceive as a mistake in the (otherwise great) video: T-stops _do_ work nicely on ice, just have a look at any figure skater. It's just that they're performed differently. On inlines you typically place the rear skate far from the support one and you tilt it on its inside edge, so it slides. On ice, you keep it closer and more upright, so that thee blade scrapes the ice surface
Francisco Tornay He was referring to dragging the blade not working on ice. You are kind of right, but on ice you use the outside edge of the rear skate as the brake, which you probably know.
ohhh thats why ive been struggling lol
Agree! I may even argue that they are 98% similar. Every freestyle trick I've learned on inlines translates very well to ice, and usually much less effort is needed. So (like stopping) if you can produce a 3-turn on inlines, do it very gently on ice because much less effort is needed.
Yes, I've over rotated a few times when figuring this out...
aw man that ice rink you filmed in is HUGE! Where is that??
Riga, Latvia, Lido amusement center
Wow I just looked up some pictures and that city looks absolutely incredible! I'm from the US but definitely adding it to my travel list :)
Are you from Riga ?
How To Inline Skate I was also kinda interested this place looks great :D
The only reason i can ice skate is because i only skated in inline skates
Kolbe M. Same
And the only reason I can Inline skate is because I played Ice Hockey xD
SAME! I've only been once, lmao.
I love it too by the way. Sad thing is, been wanting to do it since I was 3.
That’s the first pair of skates I had so I am terrible with regular skates
the T-Stop is actually used on the ice
yeah but its less effective and a hockey stop looks much better^^
It's mostly used to learn people hockey stop. In the freestyle ice skating comunet the T-stop is used as an otter stop named the outside edge and its just a t stop but u lift up the leg that supports you.
yes, T-stops may be harder on ice but in figure skating, since it's harder, it looks better if you compete. (at least thats what i've been told)
Its for teaching people how to use their outside edge when stopping
the T stop on ice is a bit different. It's actually quite simple and is one of the beginning stops people learn. The trailing foot is actually placed right behind the gliding foot , and the weight is transferred to the back foot to increase the force of friction (you're stopping with the inside edge). The stop itself does not look like a lunge as it does for inline skating and is very very elementary. There is a different variation called the show stop for figure skating where the stopping foot gets placed in front of the gliding foot while the gliding foot shifts to the toepick. It looks much much better than the T stop (as its name suggests it's for, well, show lmaooo)
only reason i'm using inline blades is to practice hockey for next season
Ice skating looks so good and graceful
The difference (to me at least) was really jarring actually. SInce I was already used to how "touchy" my balance was on the ice (I learned to ice skate first), I used little weight shifts to my advantage when I was ice skating, which doesn't translate very well to inline because of the difference in physics. You can get away with not paying attention to balance as much on inline, but you have to work harder to do the same things you can on ice, which was a hard transition. It might not be as bad for people going from inline to ice skating though. Just my thoughts.
That certainly may be the case for hockey skates! But figure skates have much longer blades (especially in the back), and you definitely have a lot of wiggle room there. I personally have never tried hockey skates and will probably fall a lot if I try them. And yeah I cannot do ANY of the things I can do on ice as a figure skater on inline skates. The difference is REAL!.
Why can't you do the same things on Rollerblades?
Yes for me my rollerblading experience translated directly to ice skating. the key was to use a decent laced up boot and once I got the ice skates laced very tight I was good to go and ended up going backwards immediately. Felt right at home.
I skate every weekend, but I don't get to ice skate too often so learning ice-specific techniques (such as the hockey stop) is difficult. The T-stop on ice may be less effective than on inlines, but it still works and I find it to be a commonly shared technique I can practise and use safely in both situations.
yea the T stop was the first stop I learned on ice skates
can you dime stop tho
My friends and me always use the T stop on ice because someone once crashed into the wall while using the hockey stop.
I am so late, but wouldn't a shovel stop (hope you get what i mean, like in skiing) be more effective? T-stops in my mind messes up your balance pretty bad. And is the furthest thing from the real hockeystop. Ps. Practise makes perfect! Keep trying.
Nokider 14 I used it for inline skates before I learned t-stop. It actually works better but takes a lot of space and may be inappropriate in somewhat crowded parks.
Your t stop doesn't work because your doing it wrong. You use the OUTSIDE edge of the trailing skate not the inside. That's why your sliding!
I’ve noticed that rollerblading does help with ice skating for some aspects. Like if you rollerblade for longer periods of time, some things on ice will become easier to do.
Résumé:
Hockey: quicker, hockey stop, fall less painfully
Inline: more stable, drag stop, skate everywhere
I can hockey stop on inline skates, it shaves part of your wheels as you slide and you need decently hard wheels for it or a slick surface. But it is possible
Trey Hornick I learned how to hockey stop on inline skates WAAAAAY before ice skates.
I'm older now and can still hockey stop on inline, but struggle on ice.
I enjoyed it, thx for the good work! :)
Keep it up!
Yes you can use a T-Stop for ice skating. We just put our feet closer together and use and outside edge.
I work r Essa really well with inline skates but on ice I felt like its more difficult...maybe because I'm using rental skates?..
wow , I liked it, I've been often thinking about the difference, thank you , now I know
So true. I tried ice skating after roller skating and it felt way easier than I thought.
Is it the same motion?
If I already ice skate and start to rollerblade, will I start off better?
Yes. You will start better because there are a lot of similarities between ice and roller. So you would start off better than a guy who just started to skate with anything
I have both and love to play hockey in the winter and use inlines in the summer to practice since you can use a lot of the techniques in both sports
I used to inline skate a lot when i was younger. Then i stood a couple of years without skating and last year i tried skating on ice. It was my first time and i did very good. Once you get used to them it's pretty easy to master ice skating!
hahaha you were standing on the table ! :D
Honestly I find ice skating a lot easier... I do both, I'm a hockey player and enjoy street hockey as well.
I'm trying roller hockey... I have had so many painful falls :( . But I practice it because later I wanna do ice hockey
@@rosemontelongo510I would do it the opposite if you are going to try hockey. Make sure to not get used to the grip of the rollerblades
I'm curious are the inlines you are using rockered? (Banana rocker)
it is different i do both and when you come from ice skates to inline you judt feel like you are a lot slower almost like they are not going anywhere. when you come from inline to ice skates it is lot more fast and you are more likely to fall
Thank you for this! I know how to go around with a Rollerblade and I was worried I won't be able to be on ice skates with my friends
As someone who started on inlines, I'd say there are 2 major differences: balance and stopping, both of which stem from the reversed friction mechanic.
The immediate difference I noticed when I first stepped on the ice was the greater balance required. On flat edges (upright/perpendicular blade to the ice where both inside and outside edges of a blade are in contact), you'll find yourself unintentionally pivoting about your blades contact point (which can result in sliding sideways, the control of which is a fundamental skill to stopping) unless you maintain good balance. Inlines don't slide sideways when your wheels are upright.
The other huge difference is stopping. On inlines, you're basically making a sharp turn with a hard and abrupt leaning of the wheels, the sudden reduced friction of which breaks the wheels' surface contact loose thereby initiating the slide. Stopping results from the friction gained as you control the return to being upright (or you can stay leaned over, eventually coming to a stop but you'll slide more). On ice, you slide sideways by pivoting about your flats, then you gradually add lean which bites the ice which increases the friction needed to stop.
I'm still learning but pivoting about your flats and sliding sideways while upright is an unsettling feeling that takes some bravery to do. Instead, I found myself abruptly (instead of gradually) leaning my blades like I'd do on inlines (out of habit) which had me doing turns instead of stopping. It starts to click once you focus more on sliding sideways while upright instead of stopping.
Going back to inlines after the winter ended, never thought I'd say this as someone who loved inlines as a kid, but ice is definitely the way to go. Inline just feels so restrictive in comparison.
Nice video, thanks for posting. I am pretty good with inline, and now my ice skating is getting better.
Actually, the T-stop does work on ice. It may be less effective, but it still works.
For me, parallel slide on inline skate is easier, but you don't jump to make the skate slide, rather you do a sharp turn. It's still strange that you have so much grip, even on a rainy surface.
I learned how to do the hockey stop on inline skates, just takes some practice.
i am really good at ice skating but i have never treid inline
This video was very helpful thank you for posting :D
Thank you! I want to ice skate more but there's no ice around so I was thinking I should try inlines more until I find ice and I want to be comfortable and learn some tricks too!😁
I was pretty good at roller skating (quads) but really struggled with ice skating, I guess i should have tried roller blading jn my childhood
I’ve never done I’ve skating, living in Arizona I don’t have many opportunities. Going for the first time tomorrow. I’ve been rollerblading MANY MANY times and I’d like to think im pretty good so hopefully I shouldn’t have too much trouble.
You could do that hockey stop thing on in-line skates it’s called power stop or power slide it’s just you did it in somewhat of a puddle
Actually it wasn’t a puddle the floor was just really wet/slippery and your transition was a lil weird
You didn’t mention that ice rinks are nice and smooth, roads, pavements and car parks are rarely level, usually have bumps and have slippery leaves, stones and twigs that will make you fall. And stopping on inlines is much harder, you can’t decelerate as effectively. Basically on ice you have far more control and precision.
0:36 sever constipation be like
T-stops do work on ice, but you do them differently. Instead of dragging your foot you pull it toward the front foot on the inside edge. It's quite fun once you learn it.
I am a bit late but the t stop does work on ice you just do it with your outside edge instead of the inside edge.
In my opinion balance on ice skates is easier. It could be different for everyone.
I find I have a adapting period of a day everytime I switch to ice- roller every winter and summer- the less grip on ice and the more grip on rollers always throws me off
seems like it would be harder to do turns that just involve leaning or turning the skates on inlines since they aren't rockered and have a longer point of contact distance.
I’m really good at ice skating and I do it all the time so I think I’ll pick up inline skating very quickly if I ever try it. I want to one day
So im really good on inline skating and i can do crossovers really easy. But on ice skates i just cant manage to do crossovers at high speeds
been looking for one of these videos for nearly 18 years thanks for this. I do want to note that inline speed skates unlike hocky skates differ in not just the rocker but also for short and long track in speed skating which hockey players also practice thoiugh figure skates and inline is a no no
I have hockeys skates for both ice skating and roller blading i like ice skating better but roller blading is less of a hassle to do
Thank you for the info.
I cant do t stops on my inline skates even though i follow all the tutorials.. It cant bend my foot that far and just go off balance
I lived in a cold area where I would ice skate every week now I bought rollerblades and it’s a bit different. I’m afraid to fall way more than I was on ice
hi this helped cuz I don't know how to sckate and I said I did but now I know I might film there so watch my ice skating video
Odd question can you reverse t stop? So on ice you push into the ice causing friction. So it is kinda like the hockey stop tho cuz you pushing and throwing up some ice
Anything about aggressive inline skating ?
What about using inline skating boots with blades on the ice? It's not the same, in hockey boots ankles can moving in left and right, in the inline skating it can't
U should try inline speed skates I'm a inline speed skater
I would like that very much.
How To Inline Skate that would make u much faster
Im going roller skating tomorrow and I'm an ice skater so I'm excited and nervous😅
whats easier? i find easier ice skating i cant skate with inline
I'm thinking about buying inlines and I'm intending on using them when I'm not on the ice (i ice skate twice a week) my main concern is that using inlines and then going to ice again I will mess up and use an inline technique instead of a proper ice skating technique (I also have been skating for about a year or two and I use hockey skates)
Really useful, thanks 😊👍
For someone who goes back and forth between ice a lot, what is the best size wheels for inlines? Been ice skating for a while now but have some friends that prefer roller skating because they "don't want to freeze to death".
Yeahh i'm a freestyle ice skater and i have tried to inline before... If u can do one you can do the other but there are somme key defrends...
which would be better for practicing ice skating, roller blades or roller skates?
very cool! keep up the good work man :)
Speedskates are rockered depending on the radius of the turn
Fun fact: I've always skated inline but they broke, right? So I put on the other skates and immediately fell. I went from intermediate-advance to "I can barely stand up"... It was a long day😅 (I'm good with the standard ones now though)
As a hockey player should I get rocker-ed inline skates is it a good idea to even try inline skating just for training and keeping up
Interesting bit at 0:32
I just started trying inline rollers after playing ice hockey for several years.
In ice skating when doing tight turns weight should be moved to the heels which are rounded (when turning while reversing, the weight whould be on your toes). It feels like this applies to inline rollers too.
I just thought that to make rollers to behave more like ice skates, the middle wheels should be bigger to emulate ice skates blade, but so far have not seen anyone doing like that which might mean that it is not a good idea.
Has anyone tried bigger middle wheels for better maneuverability?
Yes, I find it much more similar to ice skates when you rocker your wheels. I use 76, 80, 80, 76 on my skates
Falling on ice hurts if there are scratches on it IT HURTS UR HANDS but then again it is better than grazing ur elbow or knee
If I know how to roller skate will I be able to learn fast
Thanks for thist
guys if i learned roller skating it allows me to ice skating too??!
somewhat
So, which is faster?
so if i learn inline skating i can ice skate too?
if you learn ice skating you can inline skate too
ice skating is more difficult
Actually, T stops work very well on ice skates with practice, and it's the main way of stopping with figure skates
I actually found the feeling quite different. I'm a decent ice skater, but always found myself losing balance on inlines.
It's actually different for me, I found myself more scared using ice skates as I can skate decently with inlines.
Just letting u know ice skating do have a T stop, the trick is to use the outer edge for ice, inner for roller
So my friend asked me if I could go ice skating (bestie) and for sure I said yes and I LOVE roller skating! But I’ve never been ice skating! She said she has gone once. It’s just that a long time my other friend told me that her sisters classmate cut a gain with an ice skate! Wish me luck!
T-stop does works. But yea Hockey stop is way better and comfortable
Inline skates do not have a longer surface area, since there are huge gaps in between wheels
When I tried inlines I could go forwards and do crossovers easily after 15 minutes practise, and I could easily do a tight turn to stop. But I just cannot go backwards, not at all. On ice backwards is so easy.
Leif Goodwin I agree. Backwards is way easier than forwards in iceskating. I find forwards crossovers difficult in iceskating but with inline (I haven’t fully developed since I started today cause ice rinks are shut down) I could see myself doing it after a bit of practice and getting used to since I’ve done it before in a public session
Are there any good inline skates that cost 45 and under for a size 8 in women? I have a heavy foot and I'm looking for them to work for about a year and a half with I'd say a 2 hour use per week. Any help is greatly appreciated!
I'm used to ice skating and I bought a pair of inline skates.
Boy was I in for a shock.
I glide on the ice but on inline skates I feel like I'm sticking to the ground. XD
I knew how to line skate since I was 7, and tomorrow will be my first time ice skating, I just wanted to know, if u knew one type, then would it be easier to do the other one?
For me, ice is easier.
n a r i k o d o n o yeah, I find I can rely on ice friction to move for me sometimes lol
I have a question, today I just got my inline skates blade. But it's filled with oil or grease. It's just oily. Am I supposed to wipe it off or keep it there?
Hi sir I know inline skate do you think. i can do it on ice skating?
I figure skate on ice and am very comfortable with edges and manoeuvres on figure skates. But when I try even a one foot glide on inline skates, I lose my balance (forget about doing edges, crossovers and even going backwards on roller skates - it seems impossible). I can barely even stop on inline skates!!! I disagree with the statement that crossovers and slaloms feel much the same on skates and roller blades. Can anyone relate? Quad skates (aka roller skates), however, are way easier to do manoeuvres in....
Hi. I skate on quads. I want to keep the same boot but want to skate with inlines. What is an inline frame ican buy and put on a heeled boot?
bruh falling on ice is way worse, even tho falling on cement rips your skin, ice is much denser than cement so if you fall on your knees or hit your head it hurts way more
nah
nice try John ice is way better
"ice is much denser than cement" - great statement worth to be carved in concrete for posterity! Should add that ice is also harder :)
Is that you theory or you experienced falling on concrete?
John Cavaliere um, ice floats and cement sinks, it’s clearly denser
At least when it hurts the ice helps
Dude there is a difference between dance skates and hockey skates the front of the dance skates have zigzag things on them i would know i have my own skates
Thanks for this video. I have a quick question. I am hoping to get into Inline Skating but don't want to shell out a lot of money for the skates until I am sure it's something I will continue. I am a rather fit 57 year old so I don't know if I will be able to learn the balance or not. There is an ice rink that offers skating lessons where I live but no such school exists for Inline Skating near me. Do you think taking lessons on ice would translate into being able to do Inline Skating? In other words, would it help to learn on ice and then buy my Inline Skates later?
In my opinion ice skating is easier to pick up , but if you begin with inline skating, ice skating should be easier. Regarding the skates , if you have a decathlon near you , you should be able to get a good cheap pair of skates
First of all you try a hockey stop while raining HUGE MISTAKE, second rollerskating whit wet wheels is really difficult and sometimes almost impossible you will fall or slip up more easily. Try the stop in a day that it is not raining to compare.
in the ice i think i am better becuz have ballan xD
I T stop all the time when ice skating and it works fine
I am amazing at online skating.... I am crap at ice skating.
1:53 until it gets all cut up that is...
Now I want to try ice skating
I like skating