The New Toyota 4Runner is Coming! Here's What the Current One Gets Right & Wrong!
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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Toyota knocked out of the park their Minivan which is going to be a real problem for...drum roll please... *TOYOTA.*
If it's based on the Tacoma we will get a cheaper, less refined vehicle. We used to get a Prado, now we will get a pickup truck. Just check the weight of a door in a Tacoma vs any 4 Runner. The 4 Runner has an overbuilt feeling we are about to loose in the name of profits.
This is the only time where I’d wish Toyota would be like Jeep. Keep the exterior, and update the interior.
Bingo! The exterior is still good looking.
no
Dump the unfortunate overwrought origami Darth Vader front end of this last "refresh" on most trims, especially bad on the Pro. The more conservative TRD Sport front end by far the best looking of the current variants, IMO, too bad it's not available on others... almost harkens back or pays homage to some mid gen Land Cruisers, Tacos, etc Marry that more grown-up look with the Pro and other variants' fun bits and you have something. Keep the basic package of the rest of it, just-right size, etc, other than obvious powertrain changes (what we need is a good inline turbo 6 or even 5!) and some interior refinement like some first rate (comfort) seats) - and clean up the center stack and - without going too digital. Generally, don't fix too much what ain't broke. I do like that the AC vents are still "normal," ie up high/face level versus being forced below by the high screens these days, and I like that the screen is at least integrated into the dash... keep the plasticky, blocky sharp angle / edge tacked-on screen crap down that seems to be epidemic now. Not opinionated on this am I?!
@@springertubeyou trippin. This guy really said the trd sport is the best looking. I think nobody agrees with you besides the soccer moms. Trd pro is by far the best looking and most aggressive. They won’t keep the same exact design. They will refresh it but Toyota has already come out and said it won’t sway far from what the 4Runner has always been throughout its history. It’s gonna look even better and I’m a 5th gen owner of a built up sr5 and it’s time for a new design. They won’t keep the same after the 5th gen has been around for as long as it has. But the trd sport is literally the most worthless trim they added on just to squeeze out every penny out of the 5th gen. It basically looks like the city slickin limited trim. Brings shame to the trd name.
@@andyham6094 To each their own for sure, sounds you're tripping yourself on the Kool Aid. I would've thought must be a Gen Y fanboi til I heard how many gens...the front end on the currents is an overwrought embarrassment looking like it was designed by an 11 year old in "study hall."
“Outdated” but that’s why we love them. It gets to a point technology becomes too much and unnecessary.
Can’t wait to see the new $60k+ price tag.
It’s become a really sad reality that being a car person has become to expensive of a hobby for regular citizens 🥲🥲
I paid $38000+ for a Limited in 1998, with inflation rates you're talkin almost $71k in 2023.
60k yeeeea Right dealers these days high 70s to 80k for a solid year or two
Yep, Sequoia went from $52,000 to $75,000 with the “upgrade” new model.
get over it, that is how all new vehicle are.
I recently purchased a 2022 TRD Pro 4Runner, and I like it much more than I thought I would. To me, it is the perfect size, comfortable, handles great even on the road (better than most people say). I totally get the comments on the powertrain; however, I added a pedal commander, and this really improved the way it accelerates and shifts gears. It doesn’t seem to hunt the gears as much as before. The engines actually feels plenty powerful with good torque. I did not think that until I added the pedal commander. And it is just a solid vehicle that you know will be reliable and is fun to drive. As far as tech, it has everything I need: 360 cameras , blind spot monitoring, cross traffic alerts, apple car play, Bluetooth, phone and voice commands. I don’t need anything else.
The biggest downside is the mpg, but I look at it from a total cost of ownership perspective. What additional costs I pay in lower mpg will be offset by less repairs.
I have a ‘21 ORP with 47k miles and I get 21mpg with mostly highway and backroad driving. Definitely wish that it was more up to date, but I bought it for what it is: Extremely Capable and Profoundly Reliable.
One word describes why I love my 4Runner. Reliable.
I think this is the peak for the 4 Runner in terms of reliability. Everything in the future will sacrifice some reliability for looks and creature comforts. This may be a highly sought after vehicle in 15 years
may? it definitely will be
Agree. I love my outdated ride.
Toyota is building Hybrids and other engines for decades. They won't put a garbage in their vehicles. After 15 years, all will be electric. Toyota trying for 600 miles range battery. There will be no or far away from home gas stations with crazy prices. Used vehicles with ICE price will tank.
@anjansingh3093 Keep dreaming. The grid in thr US can't handle everyone having an electric vehicle and it doesn't look like that's changing anytime soon
umm no they are more reliable NOW than back then!
New generation: 4 cylinder turbo charged 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Generation after: 3 cylinder twin turbo 😆😆
so what? get over it
My SUV of choice would be the 4Runner, hands down. Very capable and stout, and made in Japan. Hopefully Toyota will keep making them there. I don't think it matters that it is "old". People buy them because of that. The vehicle is perfection, because it has been around for so long. Why mess with it?
Never get tired of these Toyota 4Runner videos !
I don't know how the new hybrid Sequoia is selling, but I know I have not seen one on the road.
Sad to hear that so many people are willing to trade rock solid reliability, for screens and gadgets. Option wise, all I need is an Aux jack, power windows, and ice cold A/C. LOVE good old dials, levers, knobs, and switches.
Just what the American public needs..........MORE things to distract them from focusing on driving.
@toyota never get rid of the back window Leave it! LEAVE IT AS IS! we love it
Completely agree with your 4Runner predictions.
Would be great if 4Runner returns to its roots and brings back the hardtop convertible.
My first 4x4 was an FJ Cruiser, followed by a 5th gen 4Runner, followed by a 5th gen 4Runner lol. I loved this platform and engine!
Toyota is now past it's golden age.
I bought one last year and I’m going to drive it until they ban it and drag me out of it. Fed up with poorly built American trucks.
I would love to see the new 4Runner to do a modern retro approach like the Bronco.
Bring back the 80s removable fiberglass top. Yet, they can do a modern retro.
Just bought a 2021 SR5 Premium with XP Predator package. It's basically my dream car and I love everything about it! Look forward to seeing what Toyota does with the new 4Runner.
Personally owning two of them. Solid and need no change. If one wants fancy get a fancy GX or LX. Leave this the way it is.
New 4 runner will be sweet . Love what toyota is doing design wise with tacoma, gx, sequoia, tundra. However get the 5th gen while it lasts. I have a 22 4 runner. I will have 500k miles on it……. See you in 20 years.
800k if you really take care of it!
I’m glad I bought my 2021 4runner before car prices went crazy! 50k for a TRD off road is moving into nope territory
A positive is that the next 4runner could at least have a 3rd pedal, although i would love to see a removable top like everyone else.
I’m sure the next gens turbo will be dead reliable.
You are dead on right about the 4Runner being based on the Tacoma and vice versa. Especially since the Land Cruiser has to be based of the Lexus GX 550. Slotting that below the LX 600 / and Former USA Land Cruiser.
A couple of things I see that could change (and not for the better) No roll down rear window a la the new sequoia, a giant screen which will not fit well with the 4runner, and maybe the biggest change, no longer manufactured in Japan, but in Texas or Mexico.
This is my biggest worry. Since every new truck at Toyota has to be based on the new TNGA platform, they will have to sacrifice a lot of the little things that make the 4Runner so great and unique, all in the name of cost cutting, efficiency and increasing profitability. I think like the new Tundra, it'll still be a "good" vehicle, but there will be a lot of little disappointments. It'll be overall larger/heavier but somehow have less useable interior space. It'll be more fragile, finnicky and slightly less reliable. It'll have more generic tech gimmicks, big screens, and fewer manual knobs/levers. It'll lose little things like the roll-down rear window or the overall analog feel that gives it so much character. I really wanted a 4Runner in a couple of years, but that might change now.
Not being made in Japan is horrible
The fact that TFL highlights a 14 year old vehicle one in every few videos shows just how perfect it is. Toyota, keep this formula. Durability > (is great than) the latest gizmos and ever-changing emissions standards. By the way, only so called reviewers care about the latest tech. And sure, many consumers, but not 4runner shoppers/buyers/owners.
The current 4Runner has the X factor. Mix of reliability, looks, functionality (rear window, knobs, rear access) and the Toyota vibe. The only thing that I would change if it was not being redesigned would be to offer a larger gas tank. 24 gallons just doesn't get it done. Hopefully the new 4Runner will not be too expensive, and will have better range. Thanks for the video.
I average 16-18 around town and 19-22 out on open roads in my 22 Off-road Premium with a 2.6" front lift and 1.75" rear on 255/80r17 Ridge grapplers.
in canada I averaged around 26 miles per gallon with my 4runner.
RIP your needle bearing then front ring gear.
Did you need any other mods to fit 255/80/17?
Mud flap delete or BMC, or off set wheels?
@@Offshore1977 I have the Trd wheels. There was clearance for the mud flaps, but I took them off. I prefer the look. I did trim some of the front wheel well liner with a utility knife in front of the wheel. Plenty of clearance at the body mount. I do have SPC upper control arms and a diff drop.
Have a 23 Tundra and love it. 25' 4Runner built off of the new 24' Taco would be a great addition for us esp for rock crawling and tougher trails. The 4Runner is just a grinder and if they can keep that lineage going it will be a huge hit. It could fine a new gear in terms of sales imo if they do it right.
I worked on Toyotas for 5 years this platform is reliable as hell but my personal opinion is it's extremely sluggish the performance to gas efficiency just doesn't balance it's self out they're excellent off road but in my opinion it's better options for grocery getters
I hope they leave the V6 NA in it, I'd much rather have an engine that's way to big for the vehicle that never works than a little engine with a turbo that never quits working.
Tommy you can make a vehicle that is outdated and so behind the times look so great with all of your banter and your great comments. When the new forerunner is debuted, I really hope TFL put you on the job to view it and roll it out because you do such a great job.
*4Runner
Tommy I’m driving a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro and I see all these reviews and knit picking little things. This is my first Toyota as I have had Jeep, Mercury, Ford two, Chevy, GMC and my wife drives Honda CRV. So far I am very satisfied. Also with Work I rent about 50-60 Rentals a year for work. This is a Hunting Truck for Me and I tow a fishing boat, also first time in 35 years I have not had a Truck and this 4Runner is way better off-road, and MPG is better. In 5 years I’ll let you know how good it has been.
old school digital clock and the clock on the infotainment screen. 😆
2023 ORP
Averaging 19mpg city, 20-24mpg highway (up and down Colorado mountains).
Absolutely love the 4 Runner.
The front tie downs are NOT recovery points. They're just designed to be used during shipping on the boat from Japan. You can seriously damage the 4Runner if they're used as recovery points under extreme stress. I love my 5th gen but one thing it needs and is lacking are true front recovery points.
I'm NOT looking forward to change. Change means new problems, new headaches and more trips to the garage for repairs (potentially). From what I've see and heard, the newer 5th gens are flying off the lots more so then years past, consumers want a reliable vehicle that is tried, tested and true.
If you've been a Toyota fan most of your life then you'll know and understand that most of us do not want or need all the gidges and gadgets. We like the basic, reliable functionable options that come with the 4runner. So call it "old" or a "dinosaur" but that's what we like, this is why 4Runner is what it is today.
Hoping for minimal changes.
I got my 2020 4Runner with 50k miles one owner sr5 3rd row 4x4 and been modding it myself purchased for 37k with 10k down and I think it’s the best decision I’ve ever made
I would bet that the new 4Runner will also be made in North America and not in Japan. Having been a Toyota watcher for years, it's becoming clear that where the GX and T4R shared a platform and manufactured along side one another, that's likely to change and the (just announced) Land Cruiser will take that spot. I'd also bet that this is an effort by Toyota to keep the T4R's price at around a $40k starting point. The new TLC will start at $65k and be priced just below the GX. I'm sure the ne T4R will be great, but it will diverge (as Tommy said) from the GX platform and be Taco-based.
It would make sense to move its production from Japan, they don’t sell it over there so why produce something that not gonna sell in their own country?
Current gen 4Runner gives you everything, a good V6 engine, mpg of a V8 and performance of a V4.
I REALLY wish the 4runner could retain it's V6 even in Hybrid..
I really don’t like this huge push for everything to be 4cyl..
I hope it has that cool new body of the GX550 with a similar grill that it currently has.
It would be cool if that outlet in the cargo was a 1500W like the sienna. I know since the TACO is 4cyl that the 4Runner will be too.. but I wish...
I own a 22 Tundra SR5. Thinking of trading it in for a 23 4Runner Off road. I like the old school look and interior on the 4Runner.
Look a turbo isn’t a huge problem, it’s the hybrid that I don’t want. Just give us the option of a hybrid on all cars and let us decide. I personally would never buy the new sequoia mainly for that reason. It’s way more unreliable and takes up way too much space to the point that the back of the car can’t fit anything, what is the point of a big suv that cannot fit anything in the back. And lastly there is the back window, I use this option all the time, a power back window lets me stick stuff out the back like kayaks and wood which you cannot do with the new window without the glass coming down and shattering on the kayak, wood, etc…
This is a great daily driver. That’s what you look for in a vehicle Very few take these off road. It’s comfortable around city and highway. Now is the time to buy one because if they increase the price $5k no gas savings on the new model will cover that.
Just revamp the engine to 300hp and torque like the Lexus engine variant . Drop the weight by 250-500 pounds, add a couple more gears and make it standard 35 inch tires. Offer some hybrid options and that would sell very well!
Me personally i think it drives great, if anything give it the new 8 speed transmission that will help out with fuel economy and maybe a bump in power even though its not needed. I actually like the 4runner overall.
I think they nailed it all the way home for the Tacoma cannot wait to see the 4
runner version to put my deposit down as soon as availability.
We recently sold both of our vehicles ‘17 4Runner and a ‘21 Sequoia to downsize to just one vehicle and I can’t make up my mind. Watching every UA-cam video on each one isn’t helping. I’m needing a vehicle now and I can’t wait for the new ones to arrive. I’m torn between the Tacoma and the 4Runner. Mostly for overland trips with my wife and dog. Thinking Tacoma for the space for all of our gear but that 4Runner is just so nice. I’ve read about all the issues with the Tacomas coolant leak, transmission gear hunting and little things that don’t seem right for Toyota.
this video is perfect timing for me.. I am on the fence wanting to buy one right now!
If you keep your vehicle for 10+ years.....go with the 5th Gen. I can pretty much guarantee the new ones will be nowhere near the 2023 in reliability.
@@jimmorrison2124 I definitely do, I like to make a good investment and stick with it. thanks Jim!
Update the grill and headlights, Leave the rear the same, update interior. 4runner is like a rolex, design is timeless.
Been on the fence about getting a 2023 4Runner (TRD Off-Road Premium) or sticking with my 2020 Max Tow Sport S Jeep Gladiator 😬 if the 4Runner could haul more it'd be an easy decision. I want either to be my LAST vehicle and Toyota's reliability is what has me questioning my commitment to the Jeep
*sighs* this one is my lottery wishlist vehicle. That black paint and colourful stripe and the bronze wheels. A fella can dream.
Tommy is turning into Roman
Amazing how Tommy can keep talking and talking and talking.
It is Toyota, they won't screw up!
"Silver ball" = silver lining + crystal ball.
Great video! I still miss the retractable window and TAILGATE on my 1994 4Runner.
Here’s what they need to change.
- Transmission.
Maybe cosmetic (mini sequoia)
Here’s what they need to keep
- everything (especially the roll down rear window, mater of a fact add roll down third row windows)
Been living my best “jeep life” for weeks now, just leaving all the windows down.
Isn't Toyota having problems with the turbocharged engines in the Tundra. Turbocharging is not innately a problem, but more components, more heat etc leads to reduced reliability by it's very nature.
I've been doing body work since 1981 and know that the sheet metal of the hood is too thin to survive being closed the way he did without putting dents in it from his hands. Just drop it from about 10 inches to prevent the handprint dents.
Toyota is in no hurry to introduce a new 4Runner as they can't build enough of them to keep up with demand and they are able to increase the price each year. Additionally, with the 4Runner's
proven reliability, Toyota's warranty expenses are assumed to be quite low in comparison to the German and American competitors.
There is a reason the 4Runner is expensive and has arguably the best resale of nearly every vehicle produced....they are a classically bullet proof SUV with sharp classic looks and have a very loyal following.
I just drove one of these for the first time - 8hr drive. as a person who is 6'3" i found the seating position to be miserable. Very "feet forward" and felt really out of place on a Truck/SUV
My daily driver is a 2000 4Runner that we bought new. Coming up on 250K miles soon. The original 24 year old muffler and tailpipe finally gave up, so I'm putting a cat back system on it. Upgraded the brakes to Tundra brakes and it stops much better. It has a 2" lift, upgraded upper control arms, 285/70 17 Falken Wildpeak AT-3w tires with 6 spoke Level 8 wheels. I love the look of the 3rd gen 4Runners the best....especially with a lift and larger tires. The 3rd gens were just before Toyota started to make the 4Runner a little more luxury oriented for the soccer moms. I like that it has a stick shift for the 4WD instead of a button or dial.
The Car Care Nut (Toyota mechanic) has proven that the first few years of major Toyota refreshes have NOT been very reliable. Especially with new engine introductions.
I'll keep my 4.0/5 Speed. 300,000 miles on my Tacoma with this combo and zero problems and I've never touched the trans oil. Even Toyota managed have problems on the 3.5 Twin Turbo used in the Tundra. Even if they get the turbo engines super reliable, will we still see easily achievable 300,000 to 400,000 trouble free miles with regular maintenance?
I have a 2007 sr5 224000 miles never a problem 🤞🏻. Still scoots!
I’m diggin’ that Anniversary model!
FYI, those aren't recovery points, they are emergency towing eyelets, you can tow for 50 miles up to 18 mph.
FYI those aren’t recovery points.
Because the Tacoma will have two separate rear suspension designs available, I agree that the 4Runner is likely to be based on the upcoming Tacoma.
One of my best vehicle
Look at the 2023 Toyota Prado EXR offered in the Middle East. De-clad it and turn it into the new 4Runner. That said, it only has a center diff-lock, 6-spd and a 4.0 V6, so...
I think 4Runner goes away or gets fused in with the LC Prado. It’s basically the same truck already. The GX & 4Runner are the same, minus the engines. How do you beat the 5th gen? You kinda don’t.
Looking at any turbo engine from the 80s, they’re toasted nowadays, as opposed to any Toyota naturally aspirated from the same period. Turbos are being forced into new production vehicles due to emissions regulations, it’s not the result of engine’s evolution.
There is a bunch of rumors saying the new Land Cruiser(Prado) will replace the 4Runner. I guess we'll find out soon enough!
I feel that 4 runner will be discontinued ...just like toyota did with the FJ Cruiser?
You don't understand one thing. There will be no 4runner and land cruiser Prado together in US. 4runner will be repackaged version of the Prado, which is sold outside US. So 4runner, Prado and Lexus GX will share the same platform. If Toyota brings Land Cruiser in US, it will be just similar SUV what we call 300 in Europe and new Lexus LX already is sold based on this platform. Toyota knows that 4runner is their crown jewel in US and will not screw it up by basing it on Tacoma.
Toyota has a history that says if they make it there is a good chance it’s issue will be limited.
I traded my beloved xrunner (twins on the way) for my 4runner 10 years ago and I only love it more and more. Everything has always worked and would drive it anywhere still this day. Why change it?
If the new generation is introduced incorrectly, god forbid another crossover, I will buy the current generation if I can still find one.
The 4Runner (imo) is so close to being the perfect vehicle. MPG and updated interior would go a long way to that reality.
Tommy I think you're wrong I understand where you coming from thinking that 4Runner will be based on data, because the Sequoia is based on the tundra but a thing is that we gotta remember Tacoma is assembled in Mexico and designed in the USA as well as the tundra and the Sequoia are designed in North America and assembled in the USA on the Texas plant, the 4Runner is built in Japan, it might be designed for the North American Market but 100% it will be built in thahara Factory in Japan right along with the Land Cruiser so I think we're going to see a lot of features from the Land Cruiser just a cheaper and smaller package
I just want it to come out already and see how the engine performs.
I'll bet the Cruiser will be a Prado with specs intended to compete with the Bronco and Wrangler (locker, 35's (bronco 34's)), while the 4runner competes directly with the Grand Cherokee as a lateral engine two row SUV. Maybe they'll do IRS? Removable panels to get an edge over the GC. Gas mileage and power to compete with the most awarded SUV.
Whenever the new version comes out I will purchase 2 of the old versions. Start driving one of them and in 20 years ill break out the other one. Currently own a 2010 bought october 2009. 312547 miles . Never went to my mechanic other than oil change brakes and tires (BFG KO2) Plus rumor has it no roll down rear window in new version😢 Dont care about 2 more mpg. Reliability is key
I had always wished we got this model in Australia 🇦🇺
And here in the US we wish USA gets what you get in Australia. Like the Nissan Petrol that runs on Diesel, the 4.5L v8 LC70s with 180L fuel combined, Prado with 2.8L dual tanks, etc..
I think you're wrong about the land cruiser, I have a feeling it's going to be a wrangler Bronco competitor, something along the lines of a new fj cruiser
If they raise the price $5k on the new one it defeats any fuel savings new engine might offer.
It’s been so long since the Toyota 4Runner has been out 14 years since it was first introduced into the market and it still looks the same as before no big changes and it still looks old school body on frame and it’s still looks like the last old Toyota 4Runner and the interior still just like the last old Toyota 4Runner. The 5 speed automatic in the Toyota 4Runner is still way behind the gears compared to newer Toyota and Lexus models. And will there be a Toyota 4Runner Trail hunter?
Might as well revert back to a regular key and screen less interior like the early 2000s if ppl are asking that much for simplicity
I love 4runner but MPG is a big issue. 4runner is for road trips that is why they are all very high mileage. I don't know how people afford the gas price. If you drive an S class it is obvious you don't care about gas price but 4runner... On the other hand I love this car as is. I don't like a turbo charged 2.4. It's not an easy decision. I drove 1800 miles and I spent a lot of gas money.
The new 4Runner will likely be built on the Tacoma platform. It should not get bigger like the new GX550. Add a full roof to a 5ft bed double cab Tacoma and you have your new 4Runner. And the interior, powertrain etc can be used as well. Maybe even the same model lineup. 4Runner tie-downs shown are for shipping purposes on boats from Japan to America..They are no recovery points.
they are smart to wait on the 4Runner, so they can sell more GXs first at higher price, then LC comes out at a higher price, and both take out higher end buyers who would otherwise have gotten the new 4runner
I hope they keep the sliding window in the rear hatch. GX550 doesn't have that.
Well the good news is that the GX 550 kept the pop up glass from the 460, so its possible the new 4runner still has the roll down rear window and maybe just maybe goes into their roots of the 1st generation and makes a removable top like the wrangler and bronco do 🙏
I am on the fence between a 4Runner and a Rav4 for light off-roadyness. But the reliability and longevity of the 4Runner keeps pulling me back.. I'm wanting something for long road trips (about 350 miles) but capable of making it to some off-the-beaten-path zones for camping away from campsites. the cargo space of the 4Runner seems nice too.
Light off roadyness= go with the Rav4. TRD/Adventure or the Hybrids. They're extremely reliable with current Gen5 Rav4's already breaking 400,000miles.
If you're going to do any legitimate off-road go 4runner.
@@jmichael6931 good to know! Thank you!
The Rav4 honestly cannot really keep up with a 4Runner off-road. If you're doing light stuff, the Rav4 would do fine, but if you're doing anything other than basic pedestrian off-roading, the 4Runner is by far the better choice!
@@oldwelshwitch I had Rav4 before 4Runner. have you look at the Rav4 Hybrids? 40mpg combined with 14.5gal fuel tank is closer to 600miles range. New Rav4 AWD system seem to have improved alot. I don't deny that I'm very confident with the 4Runner off pavement but on a long trip I won't push more than 300miles. But With Rav4 Hybrid I think you can comfortably hit 500miles before thinking to refuel. I'm yet to spend some time at the driving seat of my friend's Rav4 Prime. Again I absolutely love my 4Runners but for fuel range (since you talked about long trips) I would think about Rav4 Hybrid as well. BTW, 4Runners are endless money pits with aftermarket stuff and I keep on buying skids, lights, sliders, different tires, etc..
@@LionRunner I haven’t really looked too in depth at the hybrids, but I’m not against it. have you heard anything good about the woodland edition? I’m wondering if that’s the sweet spot or if it’s just a gimmick. Good to know about the money pit thing on 4Runner haha! Yes I am looking to move about 400 miles away from home to another city, but wanting to be able to travel back to see my parents semi-regularly, maybe a couple times a month.
Hopefully Toyota will ditch the XREAS suspension for a more reliable off-road suspension.
Random question... what neighborhood are you driving through? It looks so nice!
Why would they put would eight 10-speeds in a 4Runner? Usually vehicles just come with one transmission. I don’t even think they could fit eight transmissions in there.
I also hope they get it right... and RETAIN some knobs and buttons , don't overdo it on screen size. I'm buying a truck not a freakin' iPad on wheels LOL ! Some of the screens actually stick up beyond the dash height and super ugly, looking like an aftethought on lot of vehicles. Really nice job and perspective, Tommy !
This platform had a lot of room for improvement with so many components hanging below the frame
Put an oh shet handle at bottom center
The 4runner is currently based off the prado underpinnings so the new land cruiser prado is the old 4runner in spirit. the 4runner name will be something entirely new
Because the 4runner will have a Trailhunter trim, does that mean that the new 4runner TRD Pro will be more of a desert runner similar to the Bronco Wildtrax or Bronco Raptor ?
Do we think the 4Runner will get the 6spd manual like the 2024 Tacoma?