Is The Toyota 4Runner Too Old To Keep Up With A New Ford Bronco? We Take Both Off-Road To Compare!
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In this video Roman and Kase take our long term Ford Bronco and a Toyota 4Runner Off-Road at Deer Creek in Montezuma, CO!
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🇺🇸 4Runner! Old , proven, made in JAPAN! I'd get ko2. But, would buy the 4runnner with locking diff. The ATrac saved my butt many times. Rav4 prime if your worried about mpg!
Here in Georgia, we are paying around 3 bucks, but you can find gas for about 2.90 or so if you look for it.
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OmG that is a limited 4runner!
@@djtesseract3064 never heard or thought about this
The 4Runner isn't an amateur, it's the veteran player about to retire that can still show the hotshot rookie a thing or two.
At this point its Tom Brady throwing his family away just to be completely awful on the field
Let’s hope it’s not about to retire👀👀👀
The 4runner isn't much changed from 2004 I don't know why everyone says 2010.
@@jeffk464 2003 actually. My 03 V8 has the same 5 speed. And the frame wasn't massively changed in 2010 either.
@@desaiharsh1995 I didn't remember the exact year its when it went midsize which was before Tacoma that did it in 2005(which I owned)
Should of been a TRD off road or TRD Pro, they used the mall crawler version of the 4runner and it still did great lol
The Limited is the mall crawler version. The SR5 (what a 40th anniversary basically is) is plenty capable. That said, I bought a TRD Off Road.
I’ve taken my mall crawler sr5 trim up worse than the trail they were on in deep snow. The SR5 is the real deal. Mall crawler 😂
@@richardoaks3597 the SR5 is ok but not as good as the TRD OR. The rear locker is good to have the the MTS allows you to tweak and tune the A-TRAC. I wouldn't own a SR5 after wheeling an OR.
@@MrCherrygrovedude that makes sense if your off-roading with it lots. In my case I knew it was going to be a family hauler and the odd trail here and there so I decided to skip on the off-road trim.
They already did that video, and the 4Runner everything th bronco did. And had better mpg, and was better on the highway.
Last time I checked, the Bronco engine was being recalled due to it blowing up. So yeah, I’ll take my 4Runner….
LOL! Love my 4Runner! Reliable and Dependable.
My old 90 sr5 was a beast, that thing carried me through every challenge I threw at it.
Worst decision I ever made was selling my TRD Pro 4Runner.
I love it when my Bronco engine blows up. It adds excitement and adventure to my travels. Said nobody ever.
No it hasn’t. It was an issue with supply that has been since fixed that is old news. Own a 2013 4Runner and I would love a bronco. Nothing wrong with new. Toyota become overrated and underwhelming
I'll take the 4runner any day of the week!
Bought a 2013 brand new and will never get rid of it!
The most reliable vehicle I've ever owned!
How many miles you have on it? I have a 2013 Trail Edition that I bought in 2019 with 80k, just hit 147k the other day.
@@trailrunnah8886 You have in my opinion the best looking 5th gen 4Runner trim
@@CarnutMM thank you!
@@trailrunnah8886 bought brand new in 2013. Has 94,000 very reliable miles
That price difference will easily get you some good rubber, some lockers and a supercharger, The Bronco is cool, but I'd take the 4Runner.
Start with a TRD OffRoad and you'll get a factory locker, multi-terrain select, and crawl control... for less money than the 40th anniversary. The 40th is significantly overpriced for what it is - an appearance package on an SR5.
Supercharger gets you a whopping 290hp?? LOL!! Which I guess is better than making 90hp right?
@@CoyoteFTW at the crank 353 HP at the wheels 302 HP
Add in real world dealer markups on the bronco, and you could get 2 4Runners…..
And a way better suspension
About the only thing the Toyota can’t keep up with is demand
Is that why they can’t put tow hooks on the tundra? Demand? 🤡
Demand will drop off considerably with the next generation 4runner. The only unique characteristic of it is how old school and simple it is.
@@Shakshuka69 nah, still high demand for them all the way back to 1st gen. Lol
@@Shakshuka69 I think this comment will age poorly
@@mattbrew11 The context isn't a Tundra, it's the 4Runner.
4Runner all the way. All that goodness plus all that longevity and reliability can’t be beat. Plus if it’s not a 40th anniversary edition, then you could get a trd off road for the same price and get that locker, and crawl control. Screaming deal. Great video guys, love the content
Don't forget KDSS and a manual transfer case
For a closer comparison, the TRD Off Road Premium should have been used for this video. It has a rear locking differential, multi terrain select and crawl control. It also comes with better tires.
I always like it when you guys review a 4Runner. I think especially cool to have one without the locker and crawl control, stock tires - see how capable that setup really is. Thanks for the great video!
When a 4runner is getting compared with almost every single offroad capable suvs, you already know which is the best. Not to mention the pricing competitiveness of 4runner with a looming Great Recession.
I'd use a 4runner TRD Pro since the Bronco has the top of the line off road package.
Bringing a 4Runner TRD Pro to compete against any Bronco (let alone the top-end model) would be like bringing a shotgun to a fistfight
Great video guys. I have an 07 FJ with the 4.0 liter engine and the 5 speed auto transmission. I don't recall ever having trouble keeping up with traffic lol. It's not a power house though. The best thing about that set up is that I have 198,000 miles on it and it has had an alternator and water pump put on it. Everything else is original and I honestly can't imagine it running any better than it does. Thanks guys
Have the same but lower mileage. Great rig.
@@marcusaurelius5576 it's a crazy capable and crazy reliable vehicle. The things it will do off road amaze me frequently. I can't believe the thing doesn't leak or use a drop of oil with that many miles but this is the first Toyota I've ever owned
If you’re near Utah, try going up Providence Canyon near Logan. It’s close to where I live and prob one of my fav trails I have ever done.
@@alexs3187 I'm in east Tennessee. I have a 7 1/2 acre wooded property that I've climbed around on. Scary at first till I realized that it was easy in the FJ lol
@@shitloveaduck yikes. I hate to hear that. The water pump wasn't cheap.
TFL: "Let's compare a Bronco with lockers, advanced 4WD system, and all-terrain tires against a base SR5 with basic 4WD, street tires, no lockers, and an appearance package."
Right??
Yotapologist
While I enjoyed this video very much, a base Bronco (not Sasquatch) against this basic 4Runner (with fancy stripes) running the same tires would be interesting. Then the new tech on the Bronco would be even better highlighted for comparison. Thanks for the video!
This is exactly what I’m deciding between and I’m still leaning 4Runner
There are a lot of 4 runner fans posting here and for a good reason..
To adjust an old saying, "If you want to get deep into the wilderness, take a Bronco. If you want to get deep into the Wilderness and get home, take a 4Runner." My neighbor had a new Bronco up until it blew the "advanced" new turbo engine at 2700 miles.
To bad New Bronco isnt on full size F Series like 78-96 full size models.
more parts is more breaks. This is basic engineering.
Colorado is beautiful. Thanks for showing the drone footage. Another great video.
This 4Runner is hella stylish. It's got all (ok, most of) the benefits of owning a brand new car plus a nostalgic old japanese SUV vibe. I love how raised it is even in this non-TRD trim.
agreed!
Depends on the year. The 3rd and 4th gens have that hipster mountain man vibe but the newer ones are soccer mom bread boxes😂
@@ChrisWEEZ idk, I was actually talking about this latests model. This is not a TRD, and look how tall it is! Yes, tall to the body doesn't mean tall to the differential, but, come on, this thing looks sick! (or is it thick?😅😂)
This would be little more even comparison if the 4runner was an off road model. Then you get a rear locker, crawl control, terrain select and better tires. But still a great watch. I love them both.
I think they did it on purpose to show that a base 4Runner still is comparable to an up to date Bronco.
The branco would not be able to keep up. Ford guys are terrible at the Apple v oranges comparison.
Not really Apples to Apples. Any other 4runner 4wd/AWD would have done even better! The Limited AWD has a center lock in H4L with Atrac…and is hard to stop. The only drawback with the Limited is the approach angle. A different 4wd system in the 40th anniversary would have been nice!
And also put a lift and 35's on that TRD off road it would rape that Bronco
Man, I love that 4Runner, I don't care how old the platform is. Also, Case is always styling and profiling in his shades and colorful pants. Adds some pizazz to the channel. Cool guy.
LoL. Styling and Profiling. Tell me you're a Ric Flair fan without telling me you're a Ric Flair fan. :)
@@InfoSecTangSoo Ha!! Hell yea.
Yuuup, and you can get a 4runner with a V8 if you're lucky 😏
@@InfoSecTangSoo Rolex wearing limousine riding... LMAO!
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!
Great video love my 4runner and any other 4Runner lol plus always enjoy the Bronco content you guys put out as a toyota guy absolutely love that Bronco
Me too. Love my 4Runner but I’d trade it for a Bronco. Especially a heritage version.
Always love Toyota and the street bias all terrains they put with every offrod package.
Spit my coffee out when Roman said “twist my little goat knob” 🤣
Can you guys compare both vehicles on tumbleweed ranch? Great video! Love you guys!
i like the simplicity of A-Trac, instead figuring out which one of the 17 modes is gonna be most effective, i wish manufactures would use at least better intuitive mode explanations, or just simply few or 3 brake based awd aggressiveness settings plus slow throttle response control
I wish they’d let you tune your own maps. How quickly it engages, how much wheel speed differential it allows, how hard it applies brakes, with adjustable speed ranges so a single map can behave differential at 5 mph than it does at 25. Use a 1-10 scale for each of the parameters. State in the manual what the settings are for each of the standard presets as well as show them in the settings screen, and allow you to save a couple custom maps plus tweak any of the settings at any time.
Case is turning out to be a pretty good part of the team. I had my doubts at first but he brings his own swag and personality and fits in now nicely or by himself.
Also plants had a lot to do with oil formation.
The 4Runner here and most Toyotas (most vehicles really) has two notches on the fuel door to hold the fuel cap while you are fueling so you don't scratch the vehicle. Probably not a big deal but good to know about.
Yeah, this irked me every time they did it.
This is some dramatic content, this is so hard core, thank you TFL ✊🏻
That trail didn't really seem all that difficult. My 2001 Montero wouldn't have had a problem either.
I was thinking the same - my 06 Focus has driven up worse
The difficulty of trails almost never translates well onto video or photos.
@@jamessigmon4765😂
Fun and beautiful vid. But if you want to differentiate these two you’re going to need a harder trail. Any veh with basic true four wheel drive could make it up that, as evidenced by both doing so without having to so much as touch any traction aids. Need a trail requiring articulation, with some bogholes, some boulders (dont have to be huge but something to get it twisted and requiring work to get over) and maybe some truly tight trails with some twisties. Still enjoyed it mucho. 🙂
I'm 58 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, we are finding it impossible to replace it. We can get by, but cant seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 40years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for
HOW !! I know it's possible , I would appreciate if you show me how to go about it .
I started from the bottom... now I'm here!
ETH?
Hey - I've been hearing about Richard for a long time now. Started during the pandemic and I've heard of how accurate his signals is.. I really do appreciate hearing your advice and feel that it is genuine
Yeah. I’m never retiring. I already know that.
No matter how much I’ve saved I don’t get ahead.
Ever do a tire test just to see how much of the off road capabilities are due to tire selection vs the mechanicals and geometry of the vehicle?
Put 100K miles on them and see if the Bronco can keep up with the 4Runner. That is the real question!
Trail team assist has been around forever. Approach at high speed, aggressively turn steering wheel and proceed to powerslide to appropriate position!😅
The only test between these two trucks is the (recall test). This Ford Bronco already has more recalls than the Toyota 4Runner.
Best team on TFL. When it is you two it will be great, (Andre too).
I have the SR5 Premium grade like the 40th you tested has. The best improvement is a decent set of tires. The nice thing about the SR5 Premium is that it can be purchased with a third row for occasional use. The better off road tech levels can’t be had with a third row.
Bone stock '21 4Runner SR5 with Nitto Terra Grappler G2. Went up a seldom used trail, which towards the top has the larger loose rock section as seen in TFL's video and about 7 to 8 degrees of angle. Went all the way up it in.......2wd. One could feel the occasional slip of a tire rolling a rock, but no electronic intervention of any kind. Love our Runner.
I'd never swap my 4Runner for anything made by Ford.
This is an interesting comparison. I look forward to seeing what the results of this episode.
From the onset, it appears the Toyota may be the underdog a little bit in this comparison, equipped with the truck/street tires (Dude! You ain't got no business on the trails with them tires, yo!?) . But, then the 4Runner is still rocking a comparative package that it has enjoyed since it hit the market in 2010. There are previous owners that may have had 4 or more 4runners in that span of time.
It's interesting that you should point out about the Ford re-engineering and "fixing everything wrong" with The International Harvester's Scout.
Love my 4Runner SR5 as much as Id love owning ine of those Broncos also. Nice video.
I literally have both of these vehicles. I don't off road but I love the bronco for fun and the 4 runner for everything else
Love your videos but I do believe that you should should upgrade the rear locker app rear lockers and put on appropriate tires to make the vehicles even when you carry them out so that there is a good choice of what goes on.
Well you can only imagine how well the toyota would've done on 35s. I think the point of the video was you don't need to spend $65,000 to go off road.
I purchased a bronco wild track and let me tell you those things are amazing we have a jeep and I’ve had several other automobiles over the years the bronco is so capable straight from the factory it will blow your mind
It won’t keep up with a rubicon on the same size tires below 25 mph
@@mattbrew11 lol
@@mattbrew11 a bronc with Sasquash can easily and the raptor is the new king. No stock wrangler comes close to capability of the raptor on 37s.
@@camooo101 there is absolutely positively no chance that a raptor can keep up with a rubicon on a 2” mopar kitted rubicon on 37s IN ROCKS. High speed stuff, sure but no wrangler has ever been built for high speed. There are no trails where a raptor is better than a rubicon, only high speed. Similar sure but if you think a Sasquatch can even squeeze through the same trails a rubicon can, all I can say is LOL and forget about the raptor.
I own a whole bunch of ford products but the bronco is better at driving to the mall and that is absolutely it
@@mattbrew11 Missed the part where I said stock vs stock 🤣. Sure anyone can modify any vehicle to out compete any vehicle. And yes bronco Raptor stock vs Rubicon stock bye bye Rubicon. No chance. Only thing is the fat raptor may not fit in some trails but capability it's better... and Jeeps are better at breaking down and driving like the crap that is. Horrible small interior, horrible ride quality, doesn't even have side curtain airbags, worst seating position I have ever experienced and jeeps make ford's look reliable 🤣. Literally worst Suv in production currently. I don't even like both bronco or wrangler but would take a bronco any day over a wrangler because at least you can comfortably live with a bronco and it has side curtain air bags.
Case, like Tommy, could be another son to Roman. They make a good pair on videos. And look a lot alike too… Young Vs. Old 😆🤣
This is the Bronco’s direct competitor. I never understood why everyone wanted to compare the Bronco to the Wrangler.
Do an 80’s comparison on both a bronco with the incline 6 and the 4Runner with the 22re , both with solid axles .
I was on a waitlist for a Bronco but gave up and got a TRD Pro. Best choice for me as the 4Runner is a better fit for my needs. Bronco is cool though and ultimately can do more tech off road than the 4Runner can, but I am never going to be pushing the limits like that. Coming up on two years with my 4Runner and it has been a real workhorse with zero issues.
You dodged a bullet my friend
Same here. After they told me it would be a 2022 model before I get it, I decided to cancel. We bought an Off Road Premium 4Runner.
Useless tech. All you need is a locking diff + atrac to get you out of any situation
First video that I've watched on the SR5 trim that went trailing as a stock model. I purchased a 2020 4Runner SR5 Premium 2 1/2 years ago. I chose the 4Runner for it's trouble-free ownership and longevity (I like to own vehicles for as many years as possible). But I had no idea that the 4Runner was this amazing real-life Stomper (4x4 toy when I was a kid 😂 ). I went online after buying it and joined the FB group and I hear everyone asking, "what tires / suspension / luggage rack / camping gear should I get???" haha I was shocked, shocked I tell you 🤣 So apparently I got the "mall crawler" package LOL because I use it to get my groceries and run to visit my family and friends. With only 9,500 miles on it, I'm hoping for it to last another 20 years 😁 Hope I made the right choice!
When that Bronco breaks down in a 100K miles, the 4 Runner will honk it’s horn while it passes by 😂. Also, that’s a mall crawler 4 Runner.
The MPG is more less what I expected from the 4Runner. Smidgen better than I would have had in my TRD. For the variety of terrain ups and downs. But straight highway I can get 20-22MPG in the 4R TRD OR. It is not class leading but it is a nice compromise. Seriously, that trip was as brutal as going .. to the country store. lol If that is all you got for a mash up, I would take the 4R. I was all prepared to say Bronco, but meh. In a real head to head hard core capable match up between that Bronco and a 4R TRD OR, I would take that Bronco. IF all I was doing was rock crawling. But getting to the trails and beyond, yah, I will stick with the 4R TRD OR. 99% as capable with out the added expense.
Hasn't changed since 2010
@@Tallnerdyguy And? The Boeing 747-8 has been around since 2005. Not changed since. But it still fly's thousands of people world wide every year. Some things don't need to change to do what they were designed to do for many decades. This SUV will out last me. That is why I bought it. And it will take me off the pavement exploring just as many places as that Bronco will go. The question is, will the Bronco still be around in 20+ years doing daily drives and weekend warrior adventures? Will Ford continue making the Bronco for more than 12 years? Lord knows they have cut it out of their production lines before. lol
@@WW-wf8tu The 747 has been discontinued because it doesn't make any economic sense to still produce it when more efficient A350s and feature rich Dreamliners are out there.
There are cars from the 60's that's not a Toyota that are still running today, so I'd say if you are willing to maintain a Bronco well, it'd last 20+ years, but it just doesn't make sense to do that. Does it make sense to keep a 4runner that long? Absolutely not. With the price you spend for gas alone, You can get another car.
Better, more efficient, safer cars are being launched every year, and you're better off with a new car every 10-12 or so years/250-300,000kms unless you are broke.
With the price difference, if someone put 15K of mods into a 4Runner it would out preform the Bronco always. With that said, I do like both. But I own a 4Runner.
If you got a bronco with less options at the same price as the 4 runner and put on 15k worth of mods, it would also do better than this bronco. It's almost as if factory options cost more than aftermarket mods... but mods also void your warranty and rarely add resale value
Fun video. I'm not a Toyota guy, but if I had to pick one with my own money - it would be the 4runner TRD Off-road. Has everything I need, and not really anything I don't. I only wish it had a manual transmission to go with the manual transfer case. As a shop owner, I really don't want to be working on my own vehicles on my spare time. The 4runner has a tried and true powertrain and electrical system. Fords as of late have not been the most stellar, if we are behing honest here.
4RNR FTW! It’s a like Rolex, reliable and great resale value.
You guys make these videos every other week. Not just you other people as well. Stacking up the runner against all these brand new vehicles. Nothing has changed, we get it. But the runner is still the best vehicle all around. Jack of all trades truck. Well the Rubicon be a better rock crawler,? Sure. But most people daily drive these things, and the runner is great on and off-road, put a few thousand dollars into upgrades and this thing keeps up with anything and will last 10 times longer than anything else on the market. The runner is legendary, the bronco and all that stuff are not. Do they have some flashy gadgets, sure. That seems like what the majority want I guess besides reliability and durability and a better looking truck.... Would you buy a house That was just going to stand for a few years?
Really cool comparison! I’m a die hard Toyota fan, but vehicles from other manufacturers are getting better every year.
Noteworthy: if you were doing a dollar for dollar comparison on these, that $16,000 could put a lift, better tires, front/rear bumpers and a rear locker on that 4Runner and for the same price as the Bronco, you’d have a bombproof reliable, VERY capable rig.
Better how? By blowing up engines?
Reliable aftermarket locker? Lol.
New isn’t always better I’ll be honest I’m just happy the new 4Runner has apple car play which is more than enough tech I need
Wife loves my TRD Pro and they look awesome too. She's waiting on the 2024 model...hope it holds up to be as good as the last model.
So the vehicle with way less HP and torque got slightly better mpg?? This is so surprising! I could never have guessed this ... amazing!
Along with this comparison you often don’t compare apples to apples. Either it should be a same priced vehicle and “Here’s what you get for the money” OR similarly equipped, lockers, tires etc., and take to places that can test the limits of the vehicle and then be, “Here’s what they can do, do you want to pay more/less for one or the other.”
Agreed. A base model 4Runner with the best the Bronco has to offer? Makes no sense.
The comment about gasoline (oil) not being from Dinosaurs is spot on. Explains what many have known, but no one has acknowledged for decades - oil and coal is still being produced by the earth and there is a carbon cycle (albeit slower than the water cycle) making the push to electrify the fleet when battery technology is in its infancy a fools errand.
All I have to say is check back with these 2 vehicles in 15 years and let's do it again.
Dang you guys make it look so easy, I feel like I could make that run in my 2006 Honda Ridgeline. I’m sure someone will correct me.
I could do that in my vw rabbit
And I could have done it with 1/4 the fuel
These are the 2 in my garage. Bronco for fun, 4runner for reliability and tow. My sasquatch is a 2 door of course.
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I love how Case says you don’t have to spend the extra money for a Bronco 1st Edition.Yet it really isn’t worth it to buy an old 4Runner with some stickers and street tires.
Bought an SR5 premium and put trd off road wheels and tires on it and haven’t looked back. Great SUV
But my theory is that 4 runner will be worth a lot more in 10-15 years as it is the last real offroad 4 runner. Just look at FJ and Xterra prices now
The 4 runner will be towing the Bronco to the junkyard in 15 years.
Hard to tell. The next gen could follow the Tundra with a turbo motor but keep body on frame architecture. I personally think it'll be okay for easy offroad terrain like the current gen. I bet it's depreciation will continue the same trend. Worth mentioning the Jeep is also a depreciation king and likely the Bronco will be as well due to the segment.
@@tyh6243 depreciation??? Go price a used 04-06 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon aka an LJ and tell me if that price is depreciated lol. The 06 Rubicons with some mileage on them but still in decent shape are going upwards to almost $30k.
Idts
Xterras are garbage and Ford trucks don’t loose value
Interesting review, what is best resale value after 5 years?
What happened to Cliffhanger 2.0? I get some of your vehicles are loaners, but it’s hard to spice up deer trail.
Deja Vu?.... I think you want the vehicle you can afford. Also sasquatch, Rubicon etc are made for the more extreme trails
I think it is more like the newest “Old Veteran” kept up with the young Bronco
I was thinking the same thing when he made the analogy. Old reliable vet vs the new flashy rookie.
I would have to say that the 4Runner is like a Veteran/Rookie! If Toyota had come out with a second gen competitor with more modern ammenedies, it would quite possibly be a major contender!
Love my SR5! Love the channel. Where did you guys wheel at in Colorado? Place looked stellar.
I'm not a Toyota guy but I do like the 4Runner but I think it's being held back by the transmission and the motor. Good video.
Has been for 5 years. It's what kept me from buying one. 19 mpg is not acceptable around 2020
With a 4runner it's SMG smiles per gallon... Not MPG... You want mpg...get a Prius.
@@lerrin it’s Slow af what smiles Lol?
@@anthonymolina7416 you want fast get a mustang or a charger... I love my 4runner...it's a rock solid SUV that will outlive just about any other SUV in it's class...
If you don't care about long-term reliability, sure, you may not want an "outdated" drivetrain. But a 4Runner will have far less cost in maintenance and far outlive a new Bronco. Ford quality control is absolute crap these days.
That 4Runner will be around for another 10 plus years the Bronco will be on 2nd or 3rd engine or transmission replacement if it’s still on the road 10years from now
I have owned hundreds of 2.7 ecoboost F150s for my business since they came out (large fleet we turn over every 3) and we’ve had next to zero issues with them. Thats over payload (sometimes way over) and/or towing nearly every mile @ 50k a year.
Thats a very reliable powerplant and the transmission is leap years ahead of the one in this toyota
@@mattbrew11 ya ok. Stop posting fake reviews
@@terrynichol577 I daily drive a jeep gladiator diesel its on 39s and easily my favorite vehicle i ever purchased, I’m not some ford troll buddy. The 2.7 is great though. The only brand im sour on is chevy but id love to get one of those new first edition canyons. Best looking truck of any size on the market IMO
In vision of design, the bronco look very interesting. I mean this retro-futurisric design without any performance sacrifice.
As we always see: big, powerful and American car just can not be bad.
TiL to wait 30 seconds to top off and a 4runner is pretty beast with base model.
Why not compare the bronco against a TRD Pro or TRD Off Road that has more comparable equipment and a similar price point? Strange choice to use essentially an SR5 with an appearance package.
I assume it’s what Toyota loaned them so they had to do with what they were given.
THIS
I watch all your videos and love em guys.. but I will say that on this one, I was a little sad to not see some more obstacles/off-road trails in the video. Hoping you can put out another comparison between the two.
I have a 2000 4Runner that we bought new. It has the 3.4 V6 with 240K miles. We drove it from KY to CO last summer and we did Engineer pass and Imogene pass and it crawled over everything in it's path with ease on an extremely wet trail. We wanted to do more trails, but the rain just wouldn't let up. I wonder if we will see a 2022 Bronco doing those trails in 2044?
Have you had to replace your timing chain? I have 175K and was wondering about this.
Hello Im thinking on buying an old 4Runner(2004-2006) any advice?
@@1ShopSnipe The 3.4L V6 has a timing belt, not a chain. I replaced the belt and tension pullys at 100K and again at 200K. It is also recommended that you replace the water pump every time you replace the belt.
I believe the 2.7L 4 cylinder Toyota engine has a timing chain. The chain shouldn't need replacing except on extremly high mileage engines where it could stretch over time and become loose.
@@andyreynoso9951 Mine is a 3rd generation. The 2003-2009 is the 4th generation. 4th gens are the least desireable body style, but they offered the 4.7L V8 in 2006...that model is highly sought after. Check for frame rust....true for all years. Also look for rust where the rear lower control arms attach to the frame. I would recommend an online search of 4Runner chat rooms and buyer's guides. That will be your best source of info. They hold their value, so beware of one that seems like too good of a deal.
@@stevevice9863 Ok, thanks!
See who is still running in 5, no 10 years and a couple hundred thousand miles later. There are certain models of 4Runner that do have lockers and a real manual transfer case. Reliability is priceless.
With the extra cash you can:
- get a TRF offroad/pro if you want, or
- get some locking hubs, a lift, bigger tires, some skids, and a winch. And then kick the butt of most anything out there, for way more reliable kilometres
Love the channel and love both these rigs. Looking for a 4 runner myself. Seems like for what I do, I don’t *need* a rear locker or a TRD Pro. Thanks for all the informative videos.
Don’t spend the extra on a pro. Just get the off road if you want the lockers.
I've got a PRO and love it, but it is no better honestly than a trd off road. Get an off road and rock on 🤘
@@TheDobbermn
I’ve been wondering about this as a 4Runner is my next vehicle. Is it cheaper to be oem vs buying a lower trim and building it to essentially pro spec?
I do basic camping and the local lake has some trails that would be fun to tackle + I live only 90min from Tahoe/rubicon so I have options for trails
Highly recommend the Offroad. Kdss also adds better on and Offroad performance. Kdss is a bummer if you plan to install a lift.
@@ericvolkman1490 the money you save buying an off road you can get a significantly better suspension, better wheels (why they make the PRO wheels 17x7 is beyond me), better tires and still have several grand left over. Or, you can just get better tires and keep the off road stock and be JUST as capable as a stock PRO.
Now THAT is how you do advertisements lol
This whole episode is like old TFL again...
I've been going back and watching the old episodes because I miss those little adventures they used to take.
Especially back in the early days when it was just Roman and Nathan.
I don't know maybe I just miss Goldmine Hill lol
When I left Tomball Texas 12/08/22 for work in the Pacific Northwest, there were over nine brand new Ford Bronco's sitting on the Kia dealers used lot. Engine failure on a $70,000 vehicle, is totally unacceptable, I wouldn't drive a Ford if you gave it to me...
I'll always take proven over new, but that's not to say the Bronco can't be the truck to buy in a few years... It's definitely got potential.
The trail turn assist literally does nothing
I heard what you said about how gasoline petroleum is formed this is what the geologist would have you to believe but in actuality they have found petroleum several miles deep and they no longer believe this is the process they believe the process is caused from the intense heat in the core of the earth That generates carbon based petroleum in the immense pressure pushes upward toward the surface of the earth the reason this is not talked about anymore is because this means there would never actually be a shortage of petroleum it is self generating although some forms of coal and oil and natural gas are formed from decaying matter obviously anything that is organic can revert back to its basic form I can’t prove this look it up
2 days ago I got the 2023 trd off road premium with KDSS and MTS. It hit 200 miles this morning.
I'm watching this while sitting in my FJ, love my FJ.
Always wondered how the dueler h/t is off road. Thanks for showing it could go off road.
It sucks both ON and OFF road! Swap them for KO2s!
@@seabiscuit726142 I heard KO2 is not good in wet/slippery conditions?
@@Theone0611 I'm on my second set here in Pacific North West and they're awesome in rain, too!
@@seabiscuit726142 285/70R17?
@@Theone0611 275/70R17 so they could fit without lifting the rig.
To be fair, the test should have been with a TRD Pro (better clearance, better tires, rear differential lock).
They didn't seem to encounter anything where a diff lock was needed. A-Trac is a pretty good substitute anyway..
@@Monkeyseemonkey79 Basically, you need to start running into obstacles where they start failing to get over them. Maybe a lot of people just plan on doing the type of offroading they did on this trip though, which means you also don't want the bronco with the huge tires. I'm kind of thinking about getting a Grande Cherokee with the understanding that its no rock crawler. It can tow a boat, go on dirt trails, and be a comfortable daily driver. My only problem is that I still really enjoy driving my 2015 GTI as a daily and think the Jeep will bum me out as a daily.
@@Monkeyseemonkey79 But it's unfair to compare it with the most off-road worthy of the Bronco line-up. I own a 2014 4Runner Trail edition with Goodrich K02s and a very good leveling lift; I have been to Moab, did many trails there, and my truck was simply unstoppable. Also, it's a pity that Nathan no longer appears in the videos. His health problems must not be on the wane.
@@guidominadisospiro3553 The base model Bronco with Sasquatch has almost all the tech off their First Edition for less money than the 4Runner. You'd need to intentionally pick a Bronco model with the least features to have similar capability to a 4Runner.
@@guidominadisospiro3553 my point is that neither vehicle was pushed anywhere near it's limits - so it wasn't really unfair. I think the conclusion of the video was kinda "they both did great out there." Essentially, either vehicle will make most buyers happy - as most buyers won't do anything more taxing than what we saw in the video.
I would take the 4Runner myself. I am not anti Ford but the reliability of the 4Runner can not be denied. As much as I would take it off road it has more than enough capability in the tested trim.
Bought my 2016 Toyota 4Runner Trail new on Memorial Day Weekend 2017. I'll be taking it in for the 155,000 Mile Servicing on Monday. Over 5 years later, still can't see myself going with the other "options" when it comes to the mid-size SUV segment (other than the Lexus GX 😤😤).
This video needed a clapped-out 80s Subaru passing them on the "trail".
I agree, this trail is passable in subis besides one tiny area that has a bypass although not legally
Both suv are great for off road but only one will be outdoors a lot and the other one will be in shop a lot for fixing.
I go on trails where that 4Runner wouldn’t stand a chance. That was an easy trail
that's why i kept my 4th gen 4runner, 5th gen didnt have anything to offer other than different styling
I'd take the Bronco if it was a giveaway. But if I was paying, I would pick the 4Runner.
It's the other way around. Can the Bronco keep up with the 4runner's proven durability, superior build quality and super reliability?
No! Bronco in 2 years will be at junkyard