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Great video. Thanks for the detailed info.... we're going to give Toyota a try, but unfortunately, the way the trunk area is, it kills me to say this, but it's a deal breaker.... our 130lb dog that spends 4 hours x 2 (4 there 4 home) going to our place in Northern MI won't work for him. So now we're thinking G-Highlander. Honestly, I'd rather just get rid of the dog lol
As an owner of this new sequoia. The lack of a flat surface in the rear is a bummer. I had a 2005 where the third row flipped up to create a larger flat storage area with the seats acting like a divider. I wish they did this in the new sequoia. Third rows discomfort is a little overstated here. Third row are meant for kids or teens in my opinion. If you have 7 adults you need a mini van or a sprinter van for any kind of comfort. Overall it’s a great vehicle and feels really rugged and the engine is buttery smooth with more power than you can ever use and it’s awesome for towing a boat or trailer. For camping I’m thinking of getting a patriot camper.
offload wise its smooth. as my Raptor if not better in terms of bouncing around. On road its more truck like because of the solid rear axle. But it feels powerful all the time. @@jtb2180 a gls 450 is probably the smoothest full size suv on road.
Goose gear has solutions for a full 3rd row seat removal and 2nd row seat removal plus a custom cut platform for max storage in the back. Works great,!
As a former GM service advisor, the 4WD Auto mode stresses the transfer case and causes issues. Toyota absolutely did good with keeping it old school with the conventional switches. Seems like ppl try to find the dumbest reasons to complain about things lol.
Great call out Tommy! An auto or full time system is huge for the segment of people looking at this type of vehicle. The vast majority of Sequoias, even the TRDs, will be on roads and maybe a dirt roads where a full time or auto system is way more practical. Great overview!
The no auto 4x4, or all wheel drive is the only reason why Sequoia is not an option for me. Toyota 4x4 system is great, but it doesn't help when accelerating out of wet corner. I learned how important that was the easy way. My wife drove 07 Denali, at the time those were all wheel, and I drove my mother inlaw's high country Tahoe one day on a rainy day and took a right hand turn and went to accelerate like I was accustomed to do with the Denali, and the back slipped out just enough that I made the decision to never allow my wife drive anything less. I was shocked how easy that rear slipped out, so with that reason Sequoia is out.
After looking at both this gen and the previous gen. When it comes to behind the third row trunk space the third Gen is a few inches less than the 2nd. The problem is it doesn't fold flat but I don't think that's something you won't get over. Don't have any personal experiences it's just my opinion after physically seeing both side by side with my own eyes.
I agree that the lack of a 4wd auto mode is a miss. My 20 year old Tahoe has it and it's why I bought it. My wife has to go to work no matter the weather at the hospital and she's not a car person. It's nice that she can push the 4wd auto button and just drive normally.
Would have preferred a Sequoia with AWD and 4WD settings. So instead went with a 4Runner limited that has AWD plus the 4WD selections. Great review once again.
@@VQSeries The 4Runner limited, the upcoming 2024 Tacoma Limited, and all Lexus LX and GX trims, all have full-time 4WD. The term "full-time 4WD" is more accurate than "AWD" because "AWD" can mean a variety of different things. Toyota's full-time 4WD is a true mechanical 4WD system that uses a torsen differential to ensure that power is always sent to all four tires. It is not reactive, it doesn't disengage, and it is not controlled by computers. In my opinion, it's a huge selling point that Toyota doesn't really highlight or advertise. I would always rather have a full-time 4WD system than a computer-controlled AWD system which may or may not even be active at a given time. The full-time 4WD system is in "4 Hi" by default but can still be shifted into "4 Lo" just like a normal 4WD system.
The Sequoia is a heavy heavy people hauler, 99% of the time it'll be grocery shopping around town, so I guess it doesn't have the full-time 4wd system to improve MPG...it's very nice that if needed it can be SO capable...computer reflexes in the rollers are second to none. Great video Tommy
Great review. I like the look. I really like the numbers. But that system basically renders the 3rd and storage useless. If you’re carrying enough people to use the 3rd row. Now you’re adding a roof rack box to carry the bags.
Yeah but if you get the right roof rack/storage box on the roof, the appearance of the Sequoia will look even better. Meh who do I know. That's just how I see it. At least Toyota did something for the rear. Maybe there will be a extended package or maybe they Toyota should have done the rear independent axles for lower trim models. Again idk. I still love the Sequoia and it's gonna be my purchase one day
It should be done like GM…where you have the option for 2 high, 4 high or low, or auto 4WD. I know people like to complain about the GM system…but when used as intended, they are pretty reliable and problem free. The 4WD auto is fantastic for normal winter driving, where you typically run into slick sections where 4WD is useful for getting going…but not where you need 4WD full time. It’s just there when you need it, and doesn’t encroach in normal driving situations when you don’t.
@@mikefoehr235I disagree. If the primary use of the 4wd system is solely for off road use where it is absolutely required, then I would agree 100%. If In most cases, the vehicle sees primarily on road use, and the 4wd is most helpful when driving in mixed on road conditions…the auto transfer case is likely to hold up just as well…but has the added benefit of saving excessive wear on other components as well. Completely anecdotal…but my BIL specifically ordered a manual transfer case in his truck as it would hold up better. His truck primarily sees on road use as well, and after one winter where most of his on road miles were locked in 4wd as every intersection was slick for weeks on end…both front hubs were trashed. I can guarantee that if he had a auto transfer case…his hubs and likel t case would have held up better, while still being more than stout enough for any of his off road use.
@@DB-bw5fz The one intangible is when 4hi or 4lo is engaged, not only is forward progress vastly improved BUT braking distance is reduced by 2 truck lengths. Toyota recommends using 4 wd once a month so that the shift to 4 hi gets used. I usually drive on wet or slippery road when I use 4hi. I have read comments from other you tubers about over use of 4 auto and tcase damage. Toyota doesn't offer this in most of its line up due to this issue.
@@mikefoehr235 The main issues with auto 4 use stem from improper use. Some people use it off road, which is a big no no. Others leave it engaged 24/7, which is also a no no. If you need 4x4 when roads are wet, you need better tires. Winter time though, I use auto 4 when the roads are variable, which is typically icy/packed intersections where you want 4wd to get you going…but often times half way through the turn is dry pavement. In those cases, auto 4 is fantastic, as it doesn’t bind up the rest of the driveline components when you hit the dry pavement. If auto 4 is treated in a similar manner to how a light awd system in a crossover would be treated, you generally don’t run into any issues.
It's a good looking vehicle and seems capable enough. I guess if your not planning on using the 3rd seat much but just want a full size for it's towing ability then it is a solid option. If you need to carry more then 4 people on a regular basis the GM trucks will suit you better.
I really wish Toyota would address this. We came from a suburban and just purchased a Grand Highlander. The suburban was nothing but issues. Loved the space of it but not having it constantly in the shop being only 5 years old
For the $80k to spend on this suv there is better option out there witch is Lexus that comes with way better suspension specifically the one option gives you air suspension witch is the same price for 2023 once
My previous 2008 Toyota Sequoia had a full time 4wd mode - it's superior to an auto mode as it has positive traction all the time - however at the cost of a bit of extra fuel (totally justifiable for us here in Canada). Yes, Toyota should have added it in, similar to the previous model, and even Toyota's own 4runner has this option as well.
@@bobdylan6773 You do realize it's the same system they had for the USA right? You do realize it snows in many states right? I'm guessing you wouldn't know that based on your comment. I thought Bob Dylan would have known that though - oh wait a sec... You're using a pseudonym... Figures...
Auto function (at least in GM trucks/SUV) leads to premature transfer case failures because operators have a tendency to leave it in that function for every road condition.
The grand highlander took the previous role as the 3 row family hauler. The sequoia sits in a really weird spot for now especially with the disrespectfully and frankly insultingly high price
My gf (ford fan) saw a new Sequoia and a tundra parked next to each other and said "that I'll switch if we get those". She's in a le hybrid rav4 and that's where I wish both the new tundra and hybrid power setups would a lot eco mode to be the the RAV4 really awesome fuel sipping mode. If the Highlander can get 35mpg in the hybrid mode why can't the Sequoia and tundra
@@Yeroc357 you're not wrong. Most American buyers are too ignorant or too lazy to educate themselves the stark differences between suv and the wannabe.
@1:35 I guess in Sequoia size segment I guess Toyota want to keep full-time 4wd option for Lexus. Lucky 4Runner has full-time 4WD. I'm not a fan of people calling full-time 4WD as AWD. As far as I know its a fully mechanical 4WD system vs AWD cars like Subaru, Toyota, Honda, etc rely on clutches, electromagnetic / viscous VS Torsen diff on Toyota full-time 4wd is all mechanical geared.
Got the TRD PRO and it’s amazing!!!! Drive is absolutely smooth compared to my Silverado and god she kicks up to speed like nothing you can’t even feel it. The hybrid systems don’t have recall it’s other motors. So far zero issues , nothing but tons of FUN!!!🤩
The new gen Sequoia is a miss for me. I demand more than an enclosed cab and a third tow added to a pickup. I demand an automatic AWD system, a unique interior, an independent rear suspension and an uncompromised cargo and third row area. GM, Ford and Jeep all learned that a generation or two ago. The powertrain is good, though. Overall 6.8/10.
I don't know for 80k I think they missed the mark with the lack of a couple features. With Jeep now competing in this segment I would have thought Toyota would have done more to draw buyers.
Someone who calls the MK2 S-type ugly, especially a guy from the US who wasn't old enough to remember seeing one when they were brand new on the road, or if you were old enough, don't you remember the cars on the road at the time (late 90s-early 2000). I do love how we have opinions though, one thing you're right about though is reliability. My mum had one, 2 years old when she bought it in 2001; by 2007, the gearbox failed, etc etc.
I agree with you Tommy on the lack of auto function. The new Taco didn’t get it either, which is a ‘miss’ in my opinion. Chevy still holding advantage in that one major option.
Honestly. I have never owned a fWD auto vehicle. I’ll switch to 4 hi when I need to. I don’t spend part of my time driving comatose then end up stuck or slid into a ditch. I pay attention. And calling it a major option is tier 1 fanboism. I’ve seen multiple tahoes not go as well as these things on like-kind roads so I’d say the all time 4wd isn’t that impressive.
@@JohnJones-ty6fjthat’s all fine and dandy but the majority of buyers that buy these are family guys/gals who don’t know nothing about 4H/4L yet alone what it even begin to mean. For the target audience Toyota should have made 4WD auto standard.
@@J-W.- well I just bought a Gray version of this very truck three weeks back. I am the target audience. I also have hybrid tundra. I wouldn’t want full time 4wd - wouldn’t touch a vehicle with it.
Yep, no auto 4WD is crazy. The rear storage and 3rd row seems a bit lacking. And what the heck was going on with that noise from the front end? It seemed different from the previous noises from A-Trac. Is something broken? And can we get KDSS on any of the new models?
I have had 2 straight 2nd Gen Sequoias and loved them. I was excited about the redesign but Toyota really screwed up with the horrible 3rd row/cargo setup. My current Sequoia folds completely flat and the 2nd row bench seats are adjustable. I have no idea why Toyota got rid of this setup. I am now looking at a Yukon and other full size SUVs with a nicer 3rd row and cargo area. I may look at the new Armada when it comes out next year.
We've appriciated the full time 4wd in the Land cruiser for years. We live with variable conditions all winter. Suprised that Toyota didnt offer the same?? No tow hooks on front with trd?
Good review Tommy. I’ll buy one of these if my family grows. And simply because it is a Toyota, although I am tempted by the new z71 Tahoe with the Duramax…. However I tend to have terrible luck with any GM product that I own….. therefore I’ll go with the Sequoia in trd pro.
The lack auto 4wd has been a gripe for me with my Tundras. Was wondering if it’s a reliability issue? I have a Tundra for my personal vehicle and a GMC with 4wd auto for work. I’ve had a couple pretty major issues with my GMC transmission
I really wanted to buy a Sequoia Platium TRD off road. So much to like about locking rear differential and solid rear axle. The SUV needed either hybrid battery incorporated into sides with removable 3rd row or nonhybrid V6 option. I would have gone for either. I gave up some off road performance for interior storage. I own a new Z71 Suburban instead.
Tommy, as you know, the 2nd gen had 2Hi, 4Hi fulltime, 4Lo, AND and locking centre-diff to turn it from an AWD vehicle into a 4WD vehicle. Should've kept that system and put it on the Tundra as well. Just Toyota cutting corners and costs and selling us a worse vehicle for $20k more!!!
I really wish Toyota would option auto 4wd in their body on frame vehicles. Living in the north and winter time, very useful when you go from ice/snow to bare pavement in town. Or snowy intersections. 2003 gmc had it ffs.
Great point The TRD Off-Road, Platinum, TRD Pro and Capstone should have Auto AWD, for these prices. When you look below the surface, Toyota definitely cut costs, and increase profits, when it came to features and tech
Really wondering what the Toyota folks were thinking having the 4runner, Sequoia, and the new Land Cruiser doing all the exact same thing. It would be nice if one of them had a bigger Suburban like 3rd row.
4runner will likely shrink to allow fitment of the land cruiser so in terms of sizes it'll go 4Runner (competes with say bronco, jeep, etc) -> Land Cruiser -> Sequoia
Great job Tommy, I like the Savagegeese or Sarah N Tuned- style under vehicle review. This truck is classic Toyota. Compromise third row space cargo space and driving dynamics in the name of “off road capability.” Then proceed to give the vehicle no front locker, no ground clearance, small tires, no transmission skid plate. That said, it is a perfect overland platform.
do like the soild rear axle ,shorter wheel wheel base and grille over the tundra ,how do we get rid of the stupid , useless 3rd row ? the big hole in the roof could take out the panoramic sunroof and add a pop top roof tent , but at $80 k might have to wait til this is 10 yrs old to buy and make a proper car camper -overlander out of it
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 better for u to just get a standard sunroof instead of the pano for more rigidity and an inch and a half more headroom in the second row
I considered a Sequoia TRD Pro to replace my '16 4R TRD Pro, but the weird 3rd row seat fold down and the lack of off road capability made me get an R1S instead.
This truck is cool….but you can’t be cute and practical at the same time….i agree the front and rear angles are not practical but for a family car that will only need to get through snowy parking lots I think it’s a winner. I like it.
soild rear axle #1 on my list , payload so need base spec model = more payload and towing , packing space for my camping kit ... and most of us car campers /ovelanders have no need ,want or will ever have a use for a 3rd row @18:10 how do we bolt down a slide out fridge ? bad design
This vehicle seems ideal for towing a small camping trailer or small boat or U-haul trailer, or trailer with motorcycles, atvs, lawn-equipment, horses, goats, bicycles, etc.
I don't think the Sequioa has ever had full time 4WD. The only SUVs from Toyota/Lexus that had that feature were the Land Cruiser/LX, Land Cruiser Prado/Lexus GX, and the 4th generation 4runner V8.
I'll add for people looking at this segment, towing is a consideration, and that 22 gallon fuel tank will probably move it down the list for people who tow any amount of distance.
Really wish they would've made this Sequoia with the rear seats folding flat and the back window rolling down. I currently have a 2016 4Runner and those two features are among my favorites. Even though they're small features to some, to me, the removal of them really ruined the Sequoia. Which honestly sucks because the styling of everything else is amazing!! Such a beautiful SUV! Hopefully they make those changes moving forward, because whenever I'm looking to upgrade, I will certainly be a buyer if they bring those back!
Something worth mentioning… at 80,000$+, your income needs to be at minimum, 112,500$ per year after tax (NOT accounting for borrowing interest rates) to make the payments for a 64 month term and have it at 10% of income. Unless you make 112,500, (more actually unless you have 30% down in cash) do not get this vehicle. I’m not sure why everyone is getting into insane debt, and then wonder why they’re so stressed. Like bud, you’re trying to fill a hole by buying things instead of going to counselling or therapy. Buy within your means!!
Totally agree, I literally would have bought the new Tundra, but I got an F150 mainly because the lack of 4 auto on the Tundra. The F150 also lets you use the rear locker in any transfer case setting, Toyota only lets you use it in 4 low “off road mode”. On the Sequoia, not having a full time 4x4 system is a deadly mistake by the bean counters.
No, they're all part time 4WD, which is what a lot of reviewers are complaining about. In a vehicle this expensive, an auto or full-time option should be included. The first and second gens had it.
Looking for something in this side category within maybe a year and it's super tough.. I used to have a 2017 Discovery with a Frontrunner roof rack for the tent and my favorite Falken Wild peak At3 tires.. The SUV was just unstoppable off road, so much space and comfort on the highway and long trips... until at 88,000 miles it's engine malfunctioned. I live in the Colorado Springs and I Really DON"T need a 3rd row... however I have two little kids and REALLY wish you could option the TRD Pro Sequoia with a 3 passenger 2nd row and 3rd row delete.... so that the rear could be used for just storage and cargo. I'm looking at the AT4 Yukon, and well I just can't afford anything close to 70-80k anyways it is just shitty that ANYTHING now a days in this segment is just so much $$$. Even building a Base SR5 Sequoia with modest creature comforts IE> Leather seats as a $2,300 option and some other TRD Off road bits makes it 75,000 truck. I seriously don't know how Toyota get away with selling a 60,000$ SUV with cloth seats! Insane. Looks soooo much better than the older one though... Another choice would be the new Armada SV 4wd version I just wish it had a touch more off road features and well... it didn't get like 13 mpg. I really want a SUV that will LAST for say 15 years and I'm Sure Toyota can get me there, just hard to swallow the initial investment.
I hear ya! The prices on these suvs has gotten out of control. Who can even afford them any more? Am I the only one who hates the 2nd row captain chairs? Such a waste of space when it's only 4 people (and a dog), or 5 people, and lots of camping gear. Car manufacturers need to stop pushing them on consumers. At least give us the option. Which they don't. I've had to purchase outside my comfort auto brand simply because of this 2nd row feature.
@@johnbriggs6203 yeah I’m def not a fan of the Captain chairs. Two car seats later I have a 4 seater. With an awkward truck. If I had a flat truck with no 3rd row I could at least run some skis though the middle. Great looking but not practical esp for 75-86k and unless someone is putting 30-40k Down on a car which is a terrible investment your paying 1500-1700 a month.
@@jdpst20 I went the used route and got a 1st gen Sequoia for $4000. I've owned it for 6 years and put 100k of it's 360k miles on it. Minimal trouble (new rad, alt, leaky valve covers and ps hoses) but never seen the back of a tow truck. Leather, heated fronts, middle bench, removable 3rd, roll down rear window. 4x4 system is good enough for snow and dirt roads/trails. Easily upgradable. Many road trips and hauling chores under it's belt. No tech bloatware and no overcomplicated mechanical or computer systems.
@@derekwelch2091 no not that kind of clunk, when suspension is fully compressed, something with rubber bushing or 🤷🏻♂️… not sure what and why, but I’ve hear it quite a few times.
Yall crying about reliability???? Mine has lifetime oil changes, package that has 6 years on EVERYTHING Electric and the hybrid motor has a 10 year 100k warranty and yes the resale value is great compared to many other brands plus it’s not considered a luxury car so it doesn’t depreciate as bad as usual ford or Chevy ram etc. it’s gonna do just great
@@trailrunnah8886 bummer! Thought they carried over the lockable center diff! Must have been a significant enough fuel economy penalty to do away with it
@@exparrot9074 I dunno. Maybe the hybrid system had something to do with it? If they had set it up like the first gen (not sure how the 2nd gen worked), they'd still have the 2hi for optimal economy, while still being able to run in 4hi with or without the center diff locked. Even Jeep has had a similar system going back to the 80s, I believe it's still optional on certain Wranglers.
@@RJ-vc2ju Nice, thanks for the info. So it looks like other than the IRS, the second gen is the one to get. I still think the first gen looks the best though.
Talking to many mechanics and service writers- Auto 4wd is something to stay away from. Though its convenient, it breaks as they age and is expensive to repair. To your point, Toyota would be smart to offer full time 4wd from LC 300 on upper trim models.
As a former 2nd gen Sequoia owner that is very happy I didn’t wait on the redesign garbage non flat load floor huge fail! I bought a new 2019 Expedition instead and love it. Never going back to Toyota especially today with our non locally owned dealers scalping prices to stupid levels. Last few weeks my Expedition Platinum has been hauling contractor gear for several projects I was doing. Yesterday it was hauling 8 people to a family event. Two things the new Sequoia can’t do as well due to the crap floor design and poor seating space. Toyota botched it!! My old 2nd gen sequoia was superior to the new one.
@@shiftmotorsports9803 I'm not a Toyota fan, they are just more reliable than other competitors. I have a well equipped 2022 Tahoe, already in the shop cause of transmission issues. 12545 miles on it.
true went to look at one the fold down 3r row takes up all the cargo space @18:10 and a big hole in the 2nd row with the capts chairs folded down not a good use of space for us who want to camp out of the back still trying to figure out how to make a bed back there or bolt down a slide out fridge
Can you actually drive it on road in 4x4? If you can't then, just like the Wrangler, it is useless in wet or snowy weather. Its third row seems worse than other 3 row solid axles in terms of knees up, head down travel when the LX or Landcruiser
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Great video. Thanks for the detailed info.... we're going to give Toyota a try, but unfortunately, the way the trunk area is, it kills me to say this, but it's a deal breaker.... our 130lb dog that spends 4 hours x 2 (4 there 4 home) going to our place in Northern MI won't work for him. So now we're thinking G-Highlander. Honestly, I'd rather just get rid of the dog lol
As an owner of this new sequoia. The lack of a flat surface in the rear is a bummer. I had a 2005 where the third row flipped up to create a larger flat storage area with the seats acting like a divider. I wish they did this in the new sequoia. Third rows discomfort is a little overstated here. Third row are meant for kids or teens in my opinion. If you have 7 adults you need a mini van or a sprinter van for any kind of comfort. Overall it’s a great vehicle and feels really rugged and the engine is buttery smooth with more power than you can ever use and it’s awesome for towing a boat or trailer. For camping I’m thinking of getting a patriot camper.
does it ride smooth over bumps
How’s the ride feel? Smooth or bumpy?
offload wise its smooth. as my Raptor if not better in terms of bouncing around. On road its more truck like because of the solid rear axle. But it feels powerful all the time. @@jtb2180 a gls 450 is probably the smoothest full size suv on road.
Goose gear has solutions for a full 3rd row seat removal and 2nd row seat removal plus a custom cut platform for max storage in the back. Works great,!
You are getting really good at your job Tommy, constantly improving over the years, Great Job Buddy 👏
As a former GM service advisor, the 4WD Auto mode stresses the transfer case and causes issues. Toyota absolutely did good with keeping it old school with the conventional switches.
Seems like ppl try to find the dumbest reasons to complain about things lol.
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Great call out Tommy! An auto or full time system is huge for the segment of people looking at this type of vehicle. The vast majority of Sequoias, even the TRDs, will be on roads and maybe a dirt roads where a full time or auto system is way more practical. Great overview!
I would absolutely consider the Sequoia if the eventually offer it in a non hybrid option.
The no auto 4x4, or all wheel drive is the only reason why Sequoia is not an option for me. Toyota 4x4 system is great, but it doesn't help when accelerating out of wet corner. I learned how important that was the easy way. My wife drove 07 Denali, at the time those were all wheel, and I drove my mother inlaw's high country Tahoe one day on a rainy day and took a right hand turn and went to accelerate like I was accustomed to do with the Denali, and the back slipped out just enough that I made the decision to never allow my wife drive anything less. I was shocked how easy that rear slipped out, so with that reason Sequoia is out.
After looking at both this gen and the previous gen. When it comes to behind the third row trunk space the third Gen is a few inches less than the 2nd. The problem is it doesn't fold flat but I don't think that's something you won't get over. Don't have any personal experiences it's just my opinion after physically seeing both side by side with my own eyes.
I agree that the lack of a 4wd auto mode is a miss. My 20 year old Tahoe has it and it's why I bought it. My wife has to go to work no matter the weather at the hospital and she's not a car person. It's nice that she can push the 4wd auto button and just drive normally.
It is NOT a miss
Would have preferred a Sequoia with AWD and 4WD settings. So instead went with a 4Runner limited that has AWD plus the 4WD selections. Great review once again.
Sorry, I'm lost - Mechanically, what does that mean or how does that work, to have BOTH awd & 4wd available in one vehicle?
@@VQSeries The 4Runner limited, the upcoming 2024 Tacoma Limited, and all Lexus LX and GX trims, all have full-time 4WD. The term "full-time 4WD" is more accurate than "AWD" because "AWD" can mean a variety of different things.
Toyota's full-time 4WD is a true mechanical 4WD system that uses a torsen differential to ensure that power is always sent to all four tires. It is not reactive, it doesn't disengage, and it is not controlled by computers. In my opinion, it's a huge selling point that Toyota doesn't really highlight or advertise. I would always rather have a full-time 4WD system than a computer-controlled AWD system which may or may not even be active at a given time.
The full-time 4WD system is in "4 Hi" by default but can still be shifted into "4 Lo" just like a normal 4WD system.
The TOYOTA full-time 4WD system is amazing 👏 ❤
The Sequoia is a heavy heavy people hauler, 99% of the time it'll be grocery shopping around town, so I guess it doesn't have the full-time 4wd system to improve MPG...it's very nice that if needed it can be SO capable...computer reflexes in the rollers are second to none. Great video Tommy
@MysticWraith Ty!
Great review. I like the look. I really like the numbers. But that system basically renders the 3rd and storage useless. If you’re carrying enough people to use the 3rd row. Now you’re adding a roof rack box to carry the bags.
Yeah but if you get the right roof rack/storage box on the roof, the appearance of the Sequoia will look even better. Meh who do I know. That's just how I see it. At least Toyota did something for the rear. Maybe there will be a extended package or maybe they Toyota should have done the rear independent axles for lower trim models. Again idk. I still love the Sequoia and it's gonna be my purchase one day
It is not useless
I personally think it’s nice how it’s always in 2 high with the option for 4
It should be done like GM…where you have the option for 2 high, 4 high or low, or auto 4WD. I know people like to complain about the GM system…but when used as intended, they are pretty reliable and problem free. The 4WD auto is fantastic for normal winter driving, where you typically run into slick sections where 4WD is useful for getting going…but not where you need 4WD full time. It’s just there when you need it, and doesn’t encroach in normal driving situations when you don’t.
Tcase will last longer. Over use of 4 auto can destroy the Tcase
@@mikefoehr235I disagree. If the primary use of the 4wd system is solely for off road use where it is absolutely required, then I would agree 100%.
If In most cases, the vehicle sees primarily on road use, and the 4wd is most helpful when driving in mixed on road conditions…the auto transfer case is likely to hold up just as well…but has the added benefit of saving excessive wear on other components as well.
Completely anecdotal…but my BIL specifically ordered a manual transfer case in his truck as it would hold up better. His truck primarily sees on road use as well, and after one winter where most of his on road miles were locked in 4wd as every intersection was slick for weeks on end…both front hubs were trashed. I can guarantee that if he had a auto transfer case…his hubs and likel t case would have held up better, while still being more than stout enough for any of his off road use.
@@DB-bw5fz The one intangible is when 4hi or 4lo is engaged, not only is forward progress vastly improved BUT braking distance is reduced by 2 truck lengths. Toyota recommends using 4 wd once a month so that the shift to 4 hi gets used. I usually drive on wet or slippery road when I use 4hi. I have read comments from other you tubers about over use of 4 auto and tcase damage. Toyota doesn't offer this in most of its line up due to this issue.
@@mikefoehr235 The main issues with auto 4 use stem from improper use. Some people use it off road, which is a big no no. Others leave it engaged 24/7, which is also a no no.
If you need 4x4 when roads are wet, you need better tires. Winter time though, I use auto 4 when the roads are variable, which is typically icy/packed intersections where you want 4wd to get you going…but often times half way through the turn is dry pavement. In those cases, auto 4 is fantastic, as it doesn’t bind up the rest of the driveline components when you hit the dry pavement. If auto 4 is treated in a similar manner to how a light awd system in a crossover would be treated, you generally don’t run into any issues.
I love the bluetooth tow hooks. Good option❤
Gotta love modern technology
It's a good looking vehicle and seems capable enough. I guess if your not planning on using the 3rd seat much but just want a full size for it's towing ability then it is a solid option. If you need to carry more then 4 people on a regular basis the GM trucks will suit you better.
I really wish Toyota would address this. We came from a suburban and just purchased a Grand Highlander. The suburban was nothing but issues. Loved the space of it but not having it constantly in the shop being only 5 years old
Grandhighlander for me.thank you😂
For the $80k to spend on this suv there is better option out there witch is Lexus that comes with way better suspension specifically the one option gives you air suspension witch is the same price for 2023 once
This is listed closer to 90k here in wa state.... the better option would be to not spend that on a car unless you gross 300k a yr plus?
Great job, Tommy! Doing your homework really shows. For 82K I'd keep it in the garage and polish it with a diaper daily!
My previous 2008 Toyota Sequoia had a full time 4wd mode - it's superior to an auto mode as it has positive traction all the time - however at the cost of a bit of extra fuel (totally justifiable for us here in Canada). Yes, Toyota should have added it in, similar to the previous model, and even Toyota's own 4runner has this option as well.
No one cares about cAnAda
@@bobdylan6773 You do realize it's the same system they had for the USA right? You do realize it snows in many states right? I'm guessing you wouldn't know that based on your comment. I thought Bob Dylan would have known that though - oh wait a sec... You're using a pseudonym... Figures...
Auto function (at least in GM trucks/SUV) leads to premature transfer case failures because operators have a tendency to leave it in that function for every road condition.
The grand highlander took the previous role as the 3 row family hauler. The sequoia sits in a really weird spot for now especially with the disrespectfully and frankly insultingly high price
My gf (ford fan) saw a new Sequoia and a tundra parked next to each other and said "that I'll switch if we get those". She's in a le hybrid rav4 and that's where I wish both the new tundra and hybrid power setups would a lot eco mode to be the the RAV4 really awesome fuel sipping mode. If the Highlander can get 35mpg in the hybrid mode why can't the Sequoia and tundra
@@RoguePlanetStudio because the sequoia is over twice the size of the RAV4
You can't directly compare a crossover uni-body to a true body on frame sport utility vehicle. They are not the same animals.
@@noblekitty the market segment is the same
@@Yeroc357 you're not wrong. Most American buyers are too ignorant or too lazy to educate themselves the stark differences between suv and the wannabe.
we can all definitely appreciate good articulation in a rear end.
@1:35 I guess in Sequoia size segment I guess Toyota want to keep full-time 4wd option for Lexus. Lucky 4Runner has full-time 4WD. I'm not a fan of people calling full-time 4WD as AWD. As far as I know its a fully mechanical 4WD system vs AWD cars like Subaru, Toyota, Honda, etc rely on clutches, electromagnetic / viscous VS Torsen diff on Toyota full-time 4wd is all mechanical geared.
Got the TRD PRO and it’s amazing!!!! Drive is absolutely smooth compared to my Silverado and god she kicks up to speed like nothing you can’t even feel it. The hybrid systems don’t have recall it’s other motors. So far zero issues , nothing but tons of FUN!!!🤩
The new gen Sequoia is a miss for me. I demand more than an enclosed cab and a third tow added to a pickup. I demand an automatic AWD system, a unique interior, an independent rear suspension and an uncompromised cargo and third row area. GM, Ford and Jeep all learned that a generation or two ago. The powertrain is good, though. Overall 6.8/10.
Companies keep making these so called “3 row trucks” but 95% if the time the 3rd row can only fit 2 year olds. It’s dumb and pointless
Is there a delete option for the rear seat? I would really have no use for it and would prefer not to have it in the way.
A small kids and tiny people only option.
I don't know for 80k I think they missed the mark with the lack of a couple features. With Jeep now competing in this segment I would have thought Toyota would have done more to draw buyers.
It isn't missing ANYTHING and it is worth every dime of that 80k
Elaborate on what you think it's missing.
Someone who calls the MK2 S-type ugly, especially a guy from the US who wasn't old enough to remember seeing one when they were brand new on the road, or if you were old enough, don't you remember the cars on the road at the time (late 90s-early 2000). I do love how we have opinions though, one thing you're right about though is reliability. My mum had one, 2 years old when she bought it in 2001; by 2007, the gearbox failed, etc etc.
I agree with you Tommy on the lack of auto function. The new Taco didn’t get it either, which is a ‘miss’ in my opinion. Chevy still holding advantage in that one major option.
That one single thing gm has an advantage 😂. Who cares. It’s not hard to shift into 4wd. Men have been doing it for what 80 years?
Honestly. I have never owned a fWD auto vehicle. I’ll switch to 4 hi when I need to. I don’t spend part of my time driving comatose then end up stuck or slid into a ditch. I pay attention. And calling it a major option is tier 1 fanboism. I’ve seen multiple tahoes not go as well as these things on like-kind roads so I’d say the all time 4wd isn’t that impressive.
@@JohnJones-ty6fjthat’s all fine and dandy but the majority of buyers that buy these are family guys/gals who don’t know nothing about 4H/4L yet alone what it even begin to mean. For the target audience Toyota should have made 4WD auto standard.
@@J-W.- well I just bought a Gray version of this very truck three weeks back. I am the target audience. I also have hybrid tundra. I wouldn’t want full time 4wd - wouldn’t touch a vehicle with it.
Yep, no auto 4WD is crazy. The rear storage and 3rd row seems a bit lacking. And what the heck was going on with that noise from the front end? It seemed different from the previous noises from A-Trac. Is something broken? And can we get KDSS on any of the new models?
Honestly, i think toyota was the only manufacturer that cared about their customers, unfortunately now its all about bottom line.
umm no it is NOT and they care more than just the bottom line, so just STOP
Toyota just needs to make an extended length Sequoia like a "Grand Sequoia" and it would be perfect.
Call it the "General Sherman" which, I believe, is the tallest tree in the world, and a Sequoia.
Can we get an update on Andrey’s Colorado?
I have had 2 straight 2nd Gen Sequoias and loved them. I was excited about the redesign but Toyota really screwed up with the horrible 3rd row/cargo setup. My current Sequoia folds completely flat and the 2nd row bench seats are adjustable. I have no idea why Toyota got rid of this setup. I am now looking at a Yukon and other full size SUVs with a nicer 3rd row and cargo area. I may look at the new Armada when it comes out next year.
I would like to see TFL review the Expedition Timberline and also a Explorer Timberline
Had the explorer for 4 months… it was in the shop 3 of the 4 months. Complete junk!
We've appriciated the full time 4wd in the Land cruiser for years. We live with variable conditions all winter. Suprised that Toyota didnt offer the same?? No tow hooks on front with trd?
Good review Tommy. I’ll buy one of these if my family grows. And simply because it is a Toyota, although I am tempted by the new z71 Tahoe with the Duramax…. However I tend to have terrible luck with any GM product that I own….. therefore I’ll go with the Sequoia in trd pro.
The lack auto 4wd has been a gripe for me with my Tundras. Was wondering if it’s a reliability issue? I have a Tundra for my personal vehicle and a GMC with 4wd auto for work. I’ve had a couple pretty major issues with my GMC transmission
Its ashame is so expensive!!! There’s no reason max this truck should be over $64,000.
I really wanted to buy a Sequoia Platium TRD off road. So much to like about locking rear differential and solid rear axle. The SUV needed either hybrid battery incorporated into sides with removable 3rd row or nonhybrid V6 option. I would have gone for either. I gave up some off road performance for interior storage. I own a new Z71 Suburban instead.
Tommy, as you know, the 2nd gen had 2Hi, 4Hi fulltime, 4Lo, AND and locking centre-diff to turn it from an AWD vehicle into a 4WD vehicle. Should've kept that system and put it on the Tundra as well. Just Toyota cutting corners and costs and selling us a worse vehicle for $20k more!!!
Agree tommy, this is a family vehicle. It perplexed me how Toyota refuses to put a 4WD auto mode
i like the seqoia but if i needed something that big i would look at the chevy gmc twins because of the cargo area which is important to me
So unreliable junk
Crawl Control came from the Land Cruiser, then trickled down to everything else Tommy. It didn’t start with the Taco/4R.
I really wish Toyota would option auto 4wd in their body on frame vehicles. Living in the north and winter time, very useful when you go from ice/snow to bare pavement in town. Or snowy intersections. 2003 gmc had it ffs.
Great point
The TRD Off-Road, Platinum, TRD Pro and Capstone should have Auto AWD, for these prices.
When you look below the surface, Toyota definitely cut costs, and increase profits, when it came to features and tech
No Toyota should not copy GM! Toyota should incorporate the Fulltime 4WD from the LC the LX and thats it.
I love these Slip Tests.
Really wondering what the Toyota folks were thinking having the 4runner, Sequoia, and the new Land Cruiser doing all the exact same thing. It would be nice if one of them had a bigger Suburban like 3rd row.
4runner will likely shrink to allow fitment of the land cruiser
so in terms of sizes it'll go 4Runner (competes with say bronco, jeep, etc) -> Land Cruiser -> Sequoia
Great job Tommy, I like the Savagegeese or Sarah N Tuned- style under vehicle review. This truck is classic Toyota. Compromise third row space cargo space and driving dynamics in the name of “off road capability.” Then proceed to give the vehicle no front locker, no ground clearance, small tires, no transmission skid plate. That said, it is a perfect overland platform.
do like the soild rear axle ,shorter wheel wheel base and grille over the tundra ,how do we get rid of the stupid , useless 3rd row ? the big hole in the roof could take out the panoramic sunroof and add a pop top roof tent , but at $80 k might have to wait til this is 10 yrs old to buy and make a proper car camper -overlander out of it
don't forget, no tow hooks either which is something the previous generations had
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 better for u to just get a standard sunroof instead of the pano for more rigidity and an inch and a half more headroom in the second row
@@huanronghu4432 dont even want a sun if I had a choice , same with the useless 3rd row no cargo space
I considered a Sequoia TRD Pro to replace my '16 4R TRD Pro, but the weird 3rd row seat fold down and the lack of off road capability made me get an R1S instead.
This truck is cool….but you can’t be cute and practical at the same time….i agree the front and rear angles are not practical but for a family car that will only need to get through snowy parking lots I think it’s a winner. I like it.
Offroaders prefer true 2wd, 4wd and 4low. In some conditions (deepsnow, ice) 4wd full time is actually bad.
soild rear axle #1 on my list , payload so need base spec model = more payload and towing , packing space for my camping kit ... and most of us car campers /ovelanders have no need ,want or will ever have a use for a 3rd row @18:10 how do we bolt down a slide out fridge ? bad design
Great video! Can you do a slip test on Andre’s Trail Boss?
Enjoyed this review …please go through more details of engine and transmission too Tommy !
Will sell like hotcakes
This vehicle seems ideal for towing a small camping trailer or small boat or U-haul trailer, or trailer with motorcycles, atvs, lawn-equipment, horses, goats, bicycles, etc.
I don't think the Sequioa has ever had full time 4WD. The only SUVs from Toyota/Lexus that had that feature were the Land Cruiser/LX, Land Cruiser Prado/Lexus GX, and the 4th generation 4runner V8.
Don’t the trd has the full
Time awd
@@MrMlbfan6 I don't know about that.
I think the only 4runner with full-time 4wd is the limited
@@b8Capital you mean the current 4Runner.
@@damilolaakannicorrect
Grandpa will said,,, " If u want to go on adventure and made it back home, get a toyota"
Especialy when ur taking ur family with u😂
Am in Africa Sierra Leone I own a first gen. 2006 , I use it off-road daily and it hold up well and am so satisfied and comfortable
I'll add for people looking at this segment, towing is a consideration, and that 22 gallon fuel tank will probably move it down the list for people who tow any amount of distance.
When you switch in into 4L on a non TRD Off-Road or TRD Pro trims will it automatically turn A-TRAC system on?
It will be nice to see a comparison of this TRD Pro with the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk
Love to see the sells numbers for the new Tundra/Sequoia. 2023 VS pre pandemic
Excellent episode! Shout out to Tommy & Cole!
Tommy, were you able to figure that clunking from the front end? Really sounded like something was loose. Very strange.
It's the Toyota traction control system modulating the brakes. My Tacoma sounds the same in similar situations.
Selectable 4wd is the best. Auto 4wd is not made for dry surfaces. You can still damage the transfer case.
Really wish they would've made this Sequoia with the rear seats folding flat and the back window rolling down. I currently have a 2016 4Runner and those two features are among my favorites. Even though they're small features to some, to me, the removal of them really ruined the Sequoia. Which honestly sucks because the styling of everything else is amazing!! Such a beautiful SUV! Hopefully they make those changes moving forward, because whenever I'm looking to upgrade, I will certainly be a buyer if they bring those back!
What was the payload rating on your test model?
I have a 02 with 150k. Love it. Still runs like new
Something worth mentioning… at 80,000$+, your income needs to be at minimum, 112,500$ per year after tax (NOT accounting for borrowing interest rates) to make the payments for a 64 month term and have it at 10% of income. Unless you make 112,500, (more actually unless you have 30% down in cash) do not get this vehicle.
I’m not sure why everyone is getting into insane debt, and then wonder why they’re so stressed. Like bud, you’re trying to fill a hole by buying things instead of going to counselling or therapy.
Buy within your means!!
"new car shiny, must have shiny" - average non-financially cautious consumer
Gosh I feel old. I feel like Tommy was just a kid a minute ago. Now he’s all grown up
Totally agree, I literally would have bought the new Tundra, but I got an F150 mainly because the lack of 4 auto on the Tundra. The F150 also lets you use the rear locker in any transfer case setting, Toyota only lets you use it in 4 low “off road mode”. On the Sequoia, not having a full time 4x4 system is a deadly mistake by the bean counters.
Would you be able to test and show how the grand highlander awd gas and awd hybrid on will do on this trail? Thank you.
Does the limited package have the full time AWD like the 4Runner limited ?
No, they're all part time 4WD, which is what a lot of reviewers are complaining about. In a vehicle this expensive, an auto or full-time option should be included. The first and second gens had it.
Looking for something in this side category within maybe a year and it's super tough.. I used to have a 2017 Discovery with a Frontrunner roof rack for the tent and my favorite Falken Wild peak At3 tires.. The SUV was just unstoppable off road, so much space and comfort on the highway and long trips... until at 88,000 miles it's engine malfunctioned. I live in the Colorado Springs and I Really DON"T need a 3rd row... however I have two little kids and REALLY wish you could option the TRD Pro Sequoia with a 3 passenger 2nd row and 3rd row delete.... so that the rear could be used for just storage and cargo. I'm looking at the AT4 Yukon, and well I just can't afford anything close to 70-80k anyways it is just shitty that ANYTHING now a days in this segment is just so much $$$.
Even building a Base SR5 Sequoia with modest creature comforts IE> Leather seats as a $2,300 option and some other TRD Off road bits makes it 75,000 truck. I seriously don't know how Toyota get away with selling a 60,000$ SUV with cloth seats! Insane.
Looks soooo much better than the older one though...
Another choice would be the new Armada SV 4wd version I just wish it had a touch more off road features and well... it didn't get like 13 mpg. I really want a SUV that will LAST for say 15 years and I'm Sure Toyota can get me there, just hard to swallow the initial investment.
I hear ya! The prices on these suvs has gotten out of control. Who can even afford them any more?
Am I the only one who hates the 2nd row captain chairs? Such a waste of space when it's only 4 people (and a dog), or 5 people, and lots of camping gear. Car manufacturers need to stop pushing them on consumers. At least give us the option. Which they don't. I've had to purchase outside my comfort auto brand simply because of this 2nd row feature.
@@johnbriggs6203 yeah I’m def not a fan of the Captain chairs. Two car seats later I have a 4 seater. With an awkward truck. If I had a flat truck with no 3rd row I could at least run some skis though the middle. Great looking but not practical esp for 75-86k and unless someone is putting 30-40k Down on a car which is a terrible investment your paying 1500-1700 a month.
@@jdpst20 I went the used route and got a 1st gen Sequoia for $4000. I've owned it for 6 years and put 100k of it's 360k miles on it. Minimal trouble (new rad, alt, leaky valve covers and ps hoses) but never seen the back of a tow truck. Leather, heated fronts, middle bench, removable 3rd, roll down rear window. 4x4 system is good enough for snow and dirt roads/trails. Easily upgradable. Many road trips and hauling chores under it's belt. No tech bloatware and no overcomplicated mechanical or computer systems.
Did you ever find out what those noises were from the front end?
That suspension clunk comes from Tundras Offroad as well, no one seems to know just yet where it’s coming from.
Isn’t this a function of the crawl control? 4Runners “clunk” while using this system.
@@derekwelch2091 no not that kind of clunk, when suspension is fully compressed, something with rubber bushing or 🤷🏻♂️… not sure what and why, but I’ve hear it quite a few times.
That noise sounds like the front sway bar endlinks binding up.
a little disconcerting for an $80 K plus vehicle
True. If it's a press vehicle I'm sure it's been beat on already though. Lol. 90% of owners of this will not ever articulate this much ever. 😂
That's not a spoiler. Have you heard of a valance? Valance is there to show you the lowest part under the vehicle is as low as the valance .
right rear is primary drive wheel, I think... therefore 3 wheel slip with only that one on the ground does not make much sense to test...
That third row seat not folding flat is garage. Was wanting to buy one till I saw that let down.
Yall crying about reliability???? Mine has lifetime oil changes, package that has 6 years on EVERYTHING Electric and the hybrid motor has a 10 year 100k warranty and yes the resale value is great compared to many other brands plus it’s not considered a luxury car so it doesn’t depreciate as bad as usual ford or Chevy ram etc. it’s gonna do just great
Does the Sequoia still utilize a Torsen Center diff?
No, it's a part time 4WD, there is no center diff. That's a big complaint with it.
@@trailrunnah8886 bummer! Thought they carried over the lockable center diff! Must have been a significant enough fuel economy penalty to do away with it
@@exparrot9074 I dunno. Maybe the hybrid system had something to do with it? If they had set it up like the first gen (not sure how the 2nd gen worked), they'd still have the 2hi for optimal economy, while still being able to run in 4hi with or without the center diff locked. Even Jeep has had a similar system going back to the 80s, I believe it's still optional on certain Wranglers.
@@trailrunnah8886 2nd Gen was the same as the 1st in that regard. Much better system than on the 3rd Gen
@@RJ-vc2ju Nice, thanks for the info. So it looks like other than the IRS, the second gen is the one to get. I still think the first gen looks the best though.
Is it odd that I'd like that option to use 4wd specifically when I want it? To me that is a feature that I specifically want
It isn't odd. I like this way of letting me select when I want to use 4wd
Talking to many mechanics and service writers- Auto 4wd is something to stay away from. Though its convenient, it breaks as they age and is expensive to repair. To your point, Toyota would be smart to offer full time 4wd from LC 300 on upper trim models.
the other manufacturers offer 2H with 4AUTO. is it because of wear and tear and gas mileage?
Impressive - My next vehicle! Got the new Tundra 4x4 off-road, great truck. However, NEED this third row! 😎👍🏼
Great analysistic explanation of Off Road capabilities of the Sequoia.
As a former 2nd gen Sequoia owner that is very happy I didn’t wait on the redesign garbage non flat load floor huge fail!
I bought a new 2019 Expedition instead and love it. Never going back to Toyota especially today with our non locally owned dealers scalping prices to stupid levels.
Last few weeks my Expedition Platinum has been hauling contractor gear for several projects I was doing. Yesterday it was hauling 8 people to a family event. Two things the new Sequoia can’t do as well due to the crap floor design and poor seating space.
Toyota botched it!! My old 2nd gen sequoia was superior to the new one.
The elephant in the room is no cargo space and only a 22 gallon fuel tank lol
I got this ride it’s fckn god mode!!!! This is our family car and it’s insane! Jelly of my wife wish my Silverado drove as awesome and smooth.
What’s with the lack of comparison to the sequoias truest competitor the Nissan Armada?
So is this a 300 series Landcruiser underneath?
Not even close
Best in class
Only if its a class by itself.
The previous version did have an all-wheel-drive option
They don't put the auto AWD function for reliability, less moving parts
Lol, I love how Toyota fans always use this excuse for not having the same features as competitors. Tacoma rear drums comes to mind
@@shiftmotorsports9803 I'm not a Toyota fan, they are just more reliable than other competitors. I have a well equipped 2022 Tahoe, already in the shop cause of transmission issues. 12545 miles on it.
Okay the rear storage area is pretty much a mess… what a compromised design overall.
true went to look at one the fold down 3r row takes up all the cargo space @18:10 and a big hole in the 2nd row with the capts chairs folded down not a good use of space for us who want to camp out of the back still trying to figure out how to make a bed back there or bolt down a slide out fridge
Did, did you watch the video? It’s because of the batteries. So don’t get a hybrid
@@flight2k5 yes
@@flight2k5they’re all hybrids
14:06 what's up with the coin slots? Does Toyota think it's 1985?
1 minute in, AND I KNOW THIS GUY IS CRAZY
How dumb can you be as a driver to forget to switch from 2H to 4H when you need to?
Can you actually drive it on road in 4x4? If you can't then, just like the Wrangler, it is useless in wet or snowy weather. Its third row seems worse than other 3 row solid axles in terms of knees up, head down travel when the LX or Landcruiser
You can't