I remember going through old spoilers because I was trying to brew in Modern. I came across this Future Sight spoiler thread. The first comment was: "I predict that, one day, Tarmogoyf will be a good card." The reply: "Yes, as soon as Squire is playable in Standard."
I remember when Spiritmonger was printed just seeing that it was a 6/6 for 5 and it had regenerate for B and you can change its color and it gets bigger! Back then you didn't get a 6/6 for less than 6 mana without some sort of downside let alone multiple upsides. Not nearly as impressive nowadays (good old power creep) but I kind of expected it to be on this list.
I only played Magic competitively for a short period of time, during the Invasion block. So hearing you guys talk about Lin Sivvy and Flametongue Kavu was very cool to me. I typically ran a Fires deck, which Flametongue fit perfectly in. Especially once I added Shivan Wurms and could bounce them back for a second round of damage. Rebel and Counter-Rebel were 2 of the biggest decks I went up against, but I was able to beat them most of the time thanks to the amount of burn I had in my deck (Flametongue Kavu, Thornscape Battlemage, Ghitu Fire, Urza's Rage). I was typically able to stop them from accumulating more than a couple Rebels at a time.
No Masticore? Granted, Morphling was on top of Urza when Saga was it, but Masticore was played in every deck that existed in standard for the entire time it was legal.
Yep Masticore was the reason that control in Urza's standard could beat aggro, which was what meant that there was some answers to the combo decks of the day. Masticore should have replaced Morphling as it took some time for Morphling to replace Palinchron in accelerated blue.
arcbound ravager should have been on the list. It was so over powered that standard and at the time extended rules had to be change in order to stop that card. Even in modern the ravager deck has more banned cards just to keep it under control.
As of 2019 Tarmagoyf has died Bob is currently no where near the top slot though it does beat Tarmagoyf by a good margin. Snapcaster is only challenged by Deathrite Shaman Deathrite is banned in multiple formats. I personally believe Snapcaster deserves the slot as best creature of all time, despite the bannings of deathrite shaman. No one cares about Masticore at all. It is very interesting how Snapcaster mage and stoneforge mystic are the most iconic, powerful creatures today, but still didn't make the cut, despite being more powerful than most or all of the list.
There's so many creatures that you could consider for this list, and it's cool that everyone has their own opinion. I myself might make an argument for Emrakul to be in here, just because the decks that have the option to sneak or accelerate him into play are nigh unstoppable when they do, and he ends games so quickly once he's out. He's a dominating force in Modern because of Tron (though he's not the only card that makes that deck good by any means), and he's arguably the card that makes Sneak and Show so good in Legacy. All these others certainly deserve consideration too.
I'd love to see a best pauper or value/weighted creatures and/or spell list. Some things are great, but expensive. I love Flametongue Kavu and few others on list because they are cheap deck spikes.
Siege Rhino absolutely makes this list today. It is THE defining creature in standard and has remained so since it appeared and will likely remain so until rotation (though theres a few more sets so we'll see).
@@bboydreemthe creatures weren’t the defining part of eldrazi winter the lands were. a lot of 4 and 5 drops are broken when you consistently get them on turn 2
i think that the two spot should be shared by both tarmagoyf with snapcaster. the one slot is resoundingly DRS. he's been called a one-mana planeswalker and is currently banned in modern for being just that. he warps any format that has fetch lands in it around him.
Arcbound Ravager should have been on the list, probably replacing Flametongue Kavu. Anyone who played in 2004-2005 remembers how unstoppable that 2-drop was. To quote Osyp Lebedowicz, "Arcbound Ravager is like a fairy godmother. It sits on your shoulder and says 'You play badly, but I don't care. I still love you.'" And you would still win. www.starcitygames.com/php/news/print.php?Article=8414
+Kel Tsang Hippy was a big deal, but the Serra Angel's direct competition for best creature was Sengir Vampire. You have to remember that back in the day there were a lot of weak creatures that you basically just used as blockers against your opponent's better creatures until one side got the advantage. They should have mentioned Juzam Djinn, though.
This is an accurate retelling of popular opinion at each time period, but I've always felt that Goblin Recruiter was better than a lot of these cards. How many of these cards can you say are banned in Legacy? (One. The answer is one.)
When they hit Psychatog, I noticed that they skipped Spiritmonger. It didn't have the same impact on tournament decks as others on the list, but I remember plenty of hype about being the best creature of all time, and that lasted for a while.
I too was waiting for stoneforge at number 1, it probably should have bumped serra, there were always other creatures on par with serra like the various djinns. FTK should probably be on this list, but closer to 8, during the FTK standard domination reign Brian Wong once jokingly told me "FTK is the best magic card ever printed" but he was only half joking, he gave the periphrasis that FTK had a much greater impact on standard than black lotus ever had on any format.
They neglected to mention Serra Angel was also a prominent player in the first World Champion deck of Zac Dolan, helping net him the first World Championship.
For anyone who wants a trip down memory lane: Hypnotic Spector / Shivan Dragon Juzam Djinn / Ernham Djinn Ball Lightning Balduvian Horde Frenetic Efreet Nekrataal Masticore / Mother of Runes Squee Goblin Nabob Snapcaster Mage / Blastoderm Spiritmonger Wild Mongrel Arcbound Ravager Bloodbraid Elf Stoneforge Mystic Snapcaster Mage / Delver of Secrets Just thought it might be fun to see some of our old friends again.
I'm surprised Delver didn't make the list. It's such a widely played card in literally every format it's available in except maybe commander and vintage, and is the spearhead card of one of the most played modern, pauper and legacy (At one point standard) archetypes Grixis/Izzet/Temur Delver. I dunno, I'm not going to argue the versatility of Deathrite Shaman (Which has always felt a bit overhyped to me), but Delver also defined standard when it was released, and just seems like on of the more infamous, widely known, and format defining magic cards. Good list nonetheless.
It's been a while, was Goblin Lackey on this list? I know the cards very good, but Delver has just been used in so many more decks, and is a very iconic magic card, probably more so than Dark Confident, which we really only see played it modern, and to a small extent, Vintage
To sort of quote LSV: "There was a time in which if your deck couldn't answer turn one lackey it wasn't competitive in legacy." Not his exact words but you get the gist, plus Deathrite Shaman sees play in almost 1/3 of legacy decks, if you can run it you do not the same with delver
I think very few creatures actually deserve the title. They have to be powerful for an extended period, they have to define multiple formats. In that sense i would nominate: Serra angel Morphling (Masticore comes close too!) Psychatog ....and maybe tarmogoyf Delver and Deathrite shaman have not had enough time to prove themselves. Although i think they are probably the two best current creatures.
It wasnt the best creature of the era, though. Confidant is a better card overall, i think. I believe its important to note, Mystic didnt get banned because its broken, it got banned because the things it could do were broken. If batterskull and the swords didnt exist, mystic wouldnt have been good.
jablesusta the best example of this is that those things didn't exist in Shards/Zen standard and it wasn't even really a card played in decks well written comment jablesusta
I like how they agreed that the new Legend rule, which allows something to exist at multiple points in the multiphase, possibly even close enough to fight itself, makes more sense than the old THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE rule. If anything, the newest rule makes the least sense in all aspects other than people whining about having to waste their card as a kill spell, or just being on the draw. A rule that just says fuck all past science fiction and paradoxes makes so much sense
It's true that Sengir didn't see much play, but it is a flying 4/4 for 5. The vigilance ability makes the Serra a lot better, but Sengir was a solid creature back in the day. Also Shivan Dragon was good too back then.
With the hindsight I have now, I'm surprised Delver isn't included. It's probably the most played creature of all times, being a force in pretty much any format it showed up (vintage included ffs!) and basically warping an entire deck archetype - tempo - around it. I'd say it rivals with Deathrite for number one.
FTK deserves the spot because you can count practically on one hand the number of creatures that have straight removal as their etb effect at that mana cost or lower. This is not a fiend hunter- the creature is DEAD. They just don't print cards like that anymore.
Baneslayer was a hotshot during a part of his standard time, while FTK was THE thing during all his standard metagames, and played a freaking lot during his Extended times as well (extended = old modern).
Flametongue saw more play than Lin Sivvi, yeah there were a lot of people playing rebels but Flametongue went in anything that even splashed red in standard. In fact, Grixis tog was a thing, basically, tog splashing red for flametongue and fire and ice.
While I do love Deathrite, I can never say it's purely better than BoP. All of it's abilities can be responded to, unlike Birds, though Deathrite wisn on flexibility in p/t, split mana cost, and three freaking abilities
Thanatos0123456789 Sorry, but 100% incorrect, as it targets and can thereby be responded to, whcih mana abilities may not. It's why you can exile the land with another Deathrite in response, or remove the target from the grave in another way, such as Scavenging Ooze. All three of Deathrite's abilities can be responded to.
Can someone please explain to me why most of these cards were considered the best cards in the game, I mean most of them are okay, but the number 1 cards in the game? Maybe I'm missing something, but a lot of theme seem kinda average.
Morphling was a great creature, but am surprised it beat out Masticore for that time. Masticore was everywhere; if you played standard, you played Masticore.
recapdrake Ill accept that living end is still a deck, but youre absolutely full of shit if you think youve found a list that is objectively better without the elf. If they unbanned it tomorrow, every deck that could play it, would. It got the ban for a reason.
Why are all the good creatures so old? Aren't there any amazing ones that can be used in Vintage that was printed in the last couple of years? And not Deathrite Shaman who can be killed by a Flametongue Kavu.
Will of Yawgmoth I need Vintage worthy cards. Legacy and Modern aren't as skill oriented imo. But I guess for a sleigh deck that'd be ok. The last creature worthy of Vintage was Griselbrand for Griselbrand/Oath.
If you're looking for recently-printed vintage-worthy creatures that can't get axed by an FTK, you're pretty much stuck with True-Name Nemesis. Honestly, almost all of the recent creatures which have entered vintage are value-generating one and two drops like Snapcaster Mage, Young Pyromancer and Deathrite Shaman. One of the only other new creatures I've seen recently in vintage was Notion Thief in a BUG Fish sideboard. I dunno, there may be more, but I'm more of a legacy player and don't really pay too much attention to vintage in general. I'm not a fan of playing in a format with Time Vault. :P
nobonaga22 Trust me, playing against Time Vault isn't a problem at all when you're both playing Vintage. The matches are always fair. I guess the only new card I found was Griselbrand to replace my Emrakul in my Oath deck.
Jessica Zane Blightsteel Colossus and Master of the Pearl Trident are pretty strong in Vintage, as far as I can remember. I wouldn't be too knowledgeable, though, since I mostly play EDH.
SFM and Arcbound Ravager seem like controversial omissions (“I'm going to write a book on how to win a Pro Tour for Dummies. The first page is buy Arcbound Ravager!"), but I think the recent card that seems to get overlooked in these discussions is my favorite creature of all time, Restoration Angel. Extremely strong in multiple format-leading Standard decks (Delver and Pod, and then both Junk Rites and UWx control), also essentially the reason that Naya Pod is a playable deck in modern, as well as being played in UWR and other fringe decks. Not played in Legacy, sure, but for me secretly the strongest creature of the last two years.
You are completely missing the point of the video. These are the most influential creatures in magics history and you want to compare them to Vexing Devil, which is barely modern playable and did practically nothing in standard. I hope you're trolling.
There was no original legend killer outside removal or combat. The first Legend rule said only 1 legendary can be out at a time. Any other copies can't be cast.
where is Storm Crow...?
How about Chimney Imp?
Ryainn123 Squire! Squire!
Beat me to it...
they didn't even include charging badger.
greeneking77
Troll harder. Storm Crow is the definition of power creep. A 1/2 for 1U with evasion in BLUE? That's absurd.
I remember going through old spoilers because I was trying to brew in Modern. I came across this Future Sight spoiler thread. The first comment was:
"I predict that, one day, Tarmogoyf will be a good card."
The reply: "Yes, as soon as Squire is playable in Standard."
I remember when Spiritmonger was printed just seeing that it was a 6/6 for 5 and it had regenerate for B and you can change its color and it gets bigger! Back then you didn't get a 6/6 for less than 6 mana without some sort of downside let alone multiple upsides. Not nearly as impressive nowadays (good old power creep) but I kind of expected it to be on this list.
I only played Magic competitively for a short period of time, during the Invasion block. So hearing you guys talk about Lin Sivvy and Flametongue Kavu was very cool to me. I typically ran a Fires deck, which Flametongue fit perfectly in. Especially once I added Shivan Wurms and could bounce them back for a second round of damage. Rebel and Counter-Rebel were 2 of the biggest decks I went up against, but I was able to beat them most of the time thanks to the amount of burn I had in my deck (Flametongue Kavu, Thornscape Battlemage, Ghitu Fire, Urza's Rage). I was typically able to stop them from accumulating more than a couple Rebels at a time.
No Masticore? Granted, Morphling was on top of Urza when Saga was it, but Masticore was played in every deck that existed in standard for the entire time it was legal.
Its nice to see the evolution of creatures in Magic
Spiritmonger was a really good creature back in the day.
Worth $15 at release. And I traded one for a Dromar because reasons.
Surprised no mention of Arcbound Ravager
maybe they just consider it to currently the best creature?
What about masticore? He dominated the late 90's
That is the omission that really shocked me - nasty masty was everywhere back then!
Ryan Vaughn in real honesty this could have been a top 2o list
Yep Masticore was the reason that control in Urza's standard could beat aggro, which was what meant that there was some answers to the combo decks of the day. Masticore should have replaced Morphling as it took some time for Morphling to replace Palinchron in accelerated blue.
I agree he was insane
it's only a top 8 list, they gotta cut somewhere
Wow I didn't recognize that's LSV, he changed a lot.
arcbound ravager should have been on the list. It was so over powered that standard and at the time extended rules had to be change in order to stop that card. Even in modern the ravager deck has more banned cards just to keep it under control.
nah needed to have ftk on there /s
@thanas comment below: deathrite's first ability is not a mana ability as it targets. It uses the stack and can be responded to.
As of 2019
Tarmagoyf has died
Bob is currently no where near the top slot though it does beat Tarmagoyf by a good margin.
Snapcaster is only challenged by Deathrite Shaman
Deathrite is banned in multiple formats.
I personally believe Snapcaster deserves the slot as best creature of all time, despite the bannings of deathrite shaman.
No one cares about Masticore at all.
It is very interesting how Snapcaster mage and stoneforge mystic are the most iconic, powerful creatures today, but still didn't make the cut, despite being more powerful than most or all of the list.
I want more of these in my life.
Snapcaster Mage
There's so many creatures that you could consider for this list, and it's cool that everyone has their own opinion. I myself might make an argument for Emrakul to be in here, just because the decks that have the option to sneak or accelerate him into play are nigh unstoppable when they do, and he ends games so quickly once he's out. He's a dominating force in Modern because of Tron (though he's not the only card that makes that deck good by any means), and he's arguably the card that makes Sneak and Show so good in Legacy. All these others certainly deserve consideration too.
Emrakul is far from format warping though- it has no place near the list.
I'd love to see a best pauper or value/weighted creatures and/or spell list. Some things are great, but expensive. I love Flametongue Kavu and few others on list because they are cheap deck spikes.
I second this fantastic idea, Pauper needs more love. Please do best pauper value lists.
Stoneforge Mystic huge omission! It got banned in Standard! It is banned in Modern! It powers multiple Legacy Decks!
In terms of historical significance, Masticore deserves a spot here.
Siege Rhino absolutely makes this list today. It is THE defining creature in standard and has remained so since it appeared and will likely remain so until rotation (though theres a few more sets so we'll see).
+Justin S Nah, doubt it. Sure, it's defining for standard, and played in Modern. However, no one is saying it's the best creature of all time.
+Justin S Rhino is dead now, but like you said, the current sets definitely changed that. Eldrazi will be mentioned in years to come.
Justin S hi
@@bboydreemthe creatures weren’t the defining part of eldrazi winter the lands were. a lot of 4 and 5 drops are broken when you consistently get them on turn 2
I personally prefer hypnotic spectre to serra angel
I have an artist doodled morphling. So thankful
Arcbound Ravager and affinity own so hard even today
Vorinclex isn't the best, but it probably invokes the funniest reactions out of people. Especially against a newer player.
Shivan Dragon with no love?
Hypnotic Specter, Juzam Djinn, Erhnam Djinn...
Still surprised arcbound ravager didn't make it on this list....
Good video, no filler
i think that the two spot should be shared by both tarmagoyf with snapcaster. the one slot is resoundingly DRS. he's been called a one-mana planeswalker and is currently banned in modern for being just that. he warps any format that has fetch lands in it around him.
Clone is sitting here like, "Cool story bro"
Arcbound Ravager should have been on the list, probably replacing Flametongue Kavu. Anyone who played in 2004-2005 remembers how unstoppable that 2-drop was. To quote Osyp Lebedowicz, "Arcbound Ravager is like a fairy godmother. It sits on your shoulder and says 'You play badly, but I don't care. I still love you.'" And you would still win.
www.starcitygames.com/php/news/print.php?Article=8414
Before watching the video, already had Serra Angel in my mind; but then.. Isn't Hypnotic Specter also a beast during alpha to whatnot?
+Kel Tsang Hippy was a big deal, but the Serra Angel's direct competition for best creature was Sengir Vampire. You have to remember that back in the day there were a lot of weak creatures that you basically just used as blockers against your opponent's better creatures until one side got the advantage. They should have mentioned Juzam Djinn, though.
They should hold hands.
This is an accurate retelling of popular opinion at each time period, but I've always felt that Goblin Recruiter was better than a lot of these cards. How many of these cards can you say are banned in Legacy? (One. The answer is one.)
When they hit Psychatog, I noticed that they skipped Spiritmonger. It didn't have the same impact on tournament decks as others on the list, but I remember plenty of hype about being the best creature of all time, and that lasted for a while.
I too was waiting for stoneforge at number 1, it probably should have bumped serra, there were always other creatures on par with serra like the various djinns.
FTK should probably be on this list, but closer to 8, during the FTK standard domination reign Brian Wong once jokingly told me "FTK is the best magic card ever printed" but he was only half joking, he gave the periphrasis that FTK had a much greater impact on standard than black lotus ever had on any format.
The creatures were not listed according to their position between them in term of strength but chronologically.
They neglected to mention Serra Angel was also a prominent player in the first World Champion deck of Zac Dolan, helping net him the first World Championship.
Very interesting topic.
If your deck has 24 lands, 30 spells, and 2 creatures.... you don't have enough cards in your deck :P
For anyone who wants a trip down memory lane:
Hypnotic Spector / Shivan Dragon
Juzam Djinn / Ernham Djinn
Ball Lightning
Balduvian Horde
Frenetic Efreet
Nekrataal
Masticore / Mother of Runes
Squee Goblin Nabob
Snapcaster Mage / Blastoderm
Spiritmonger
Wild Mongrel
Arcbound Ravager
Bloodbraid Elf
Stoneforge Mystic
Snapcaster Mage / Delver of Secrets
Just thought it might be fun to see some of our old friends again.
Psychatog was so freaken sweet. It came out around the time i started with this game. I'll never for get it haha.
No Masticore? Seriously?
Masticore was probably #2 during Morphling's reign.
I'm surprised Delver didn't make the list. It's such a widely played card in literally every format it's available in except maybe commander and vintage, and is the spearhead card of one of the most played modern, pauper and legacy (At one point standard) archetypes Grixis/Izzet/Temur Delver. I dunno, I'm not going to argue the versatility of Deathrite Shaman (Which has always felt a bit overhyped to me), but Delver also defined standard when it was released, and just seems like on of the more infamous, widely known, and format defining magic cards. Good list nonetheless.
Jordan Albert well one of them is banned in modern and shuts down the old legacy premier one drop: goblin lackey
It's been a while, was Goblin Lackey on this list? I know the cards very good, but Delver has just been used in so many more decks, and is a very iconic magic card, probably more so than Dark Confident, which we really only see played it modern, and to a small extent, Vintage
As an example of a card on this list Delver could replace
To sort of quote LSV: "There was a time in which if your deck couldn't answer turn one lackey it wasn't competitive in legacy." Not his exact words but you get the gist, plus Deathrite Shaman sees play in almost 1/3 of legacy decks, if you can run it you do not the same with delver
Uh... Arcbound Ravager was banned because it was too good and still has build around decks today and he doesn't make the list?!
I would like to see a top 8 artifact and enchantment removal spells.
just wait till they see uro
I think very few creatures actually deserve the title. They have to be powerful for an extended period, they have to define multiple formats.
In that sense i would nominate:
Serra angel
Morphling (Masticore comes close too!)
Psychatog
....and maybe tarmogoyf
Delver and Deathrite shaman have not had enough time to prove themselves. Although i think they are probably the two best current creatures.
This comment aged like milk
Shocked about no stoneforge mystic =P
Yeah, the only creature to banned in standard after the affinity era.
It wasnt the best creature of the era, though. Confidant is a better card overall, i think.
I believe its important to note, Mystic didnt get banned because its broken, it got banned because the things it could do were broken. If batterskull and the swords didnt exist, mystic wouldnt have been good.
jablesusta the best example of this is that those things didn't exist in Shards/Zen standard and it wasn't even really a card played in decks
well written comment jablesusta
I like how they agreed that the new Legend rule, which allows something to exist at multiple points in the multiphase, possibly even close enough to fight itself, makes more sense than the old THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE rule. If anything, the newest rule makes the least sense in all aspects other than people whining about having to waste their card as a kill spell, or just being on the draw. A rule that just says fuck all past science fiction and paradoxes makes so much sense
If they put Serra Angel in the list, I feel like they should have mentioned Sengir Vampire.
Sengir Vampire never saw even close to the same amount of play Serra Angel did.
It's true that Sengir didn't see much play, but it is a flying 4/4 for 5. The vigilance ability makes the Serra a lot better, but Sengir was a solid creature back in the day. Also Shivan Dragon was good too back then.
If the list was "top 8 sort of solid creatures" you'd have an excellent point.
With the hindsight I have now, I'm surprised Delver isn't included. It's probably the most played creature of all times, being a force in pretty much any format it showed up (vintage included ffs!) and basically warping an entire deck archetype - tempo - around it.
I'd say it rivals with Deathrite for number one.
a couple of years ago baneslayer angel was the best creature for a while too
Cmon where the F is storm crow.
+Smigolica609 when talking about the best creatures, storm crow is always automatically implied.
Andras Petersen
But here it is not! What kind of celestial fluctuation made them don't mention it.
+Smigolica609 Because it is not necessary as it is always implied.
Man, are you nuts?ThisIsMyRealName
You guys need to get better mikes. If I turn the volume up so I can hear you the result is speaker-shattering thumps when you bump the mikes.
Surprised not to see Juggernaut
FTK deserves the spot because you can count practically on one hand the number of creatures that have straight removal as their etb effect at that mana cost or lower. This is not a fiend hunter- the creature is DEAD. They just don't print cards like that anymore.
Scarab God basically just eats all of these creatures for breakfast. Quite literally.
2018: no order. Ravager, DRS, Emrakul, Flickerwhisp, Death Shadow, Mentor, FTK, Gurmag, Delver, Psychotic, Bob, Birds/ Noble, Serra, Lin, Thalia, Merit Lage, Mongoose, Goyf, Snapcaster,
was expecting to see Baneslayer Angel over Kavu
Baneslayer was a hotshot during a part of his standard time, while FTK was THE thing during all his standard metagames, and played a freaking lot during his Extended times as well (extended = old modern).
Balduvian Horde. Where is my all time favorite Balduvian Horde...??
Horde was a great card. I remember the decks involving them and Hammer of Bogardan. Scary deck
Flametongue saw more play than Lin Sivvi, yeah there were a lot of people playing rebels but Flametongue went in anything that even splashed red in standard. In fact, Grixis tog was a thing, basically, tog splashing red for flametongue and fire and ice.
Snap caster doesn't make the list?
Asmodeus555 It would if they remade the list. When this was made Snapcaster didnt quite have the legendary status that it has now.
Considering this video is now completely outdated, I'm going to see if anyone puts a comment after me. The date is 21/01/24 today.
While I do love Deathrite, I can never say it's purely better than BoP. All of it's abilities can be responded to, unlike Birds, though Deathrite wisn on flexibility in p/t, split mana cost, and three freaking abilities
pretty sure that his first ability is a mana ability and therefore cant be responded to.
Thanatos0123456789
Sorry, but 100% incorrect, as it targets and can thereby be responded to, whcih mana abilities may not. It's why you can exile the land with another Deathrite in response, or remove the target from the grave in another way, such as Scavenging Ooze. All three of Deathrite's abilities can be responded to.
Hierarch is better than Birds though, really l.
Can someone please explain to me why most of these cards were considered the best cards in the game, I mean most of them are okay, but the number 1 cards in the game? Maybe I'm missing something, but a lot of theme seem kinda average.
+Chris Parkhurst they are going by time. At the time they were the best. By far.
no stormcrow. 0/10
thats because storm crow sucks.... too weak, 0/10 for card value
how dare you! Storm Crow is one of the greatest cards ever printed!
you wish
Crimson Vulpes storm crow is #0 its above #1
yeah okay, one of the worst cards ever printed. if not THE worst...
can you guys try to make these a little louder i cant hear it that well on full blast :/
Morphling was a great creature, but am surprised it beat out Masticore for that time. Masticore was everywhere; if you played standard, you played Masticore.
bloodbraid elf?
Bloodbraid might have made it if it weren't for the fact that living end demonstrated that it did fine without it.
recapdrake Not really, no...
garagavia It is still an acceptable deck archetype, that and a friend of mine's actually runs better without it
recapdrake Ill accept that living end is still a deck, but youre absolutely full of shit if you think youve found a list that is objectively better without the elf. If they unbanned it tomorrow, every deck that could play it, would. It got the ban for a reason.
He preferred the speed of violent outburst
yeah definitely to many creatures to choose a top 8 but wow no stoneforge mystic or snapcaster mage?
wow no Wild Mongrel. it was rated the best creature for years until tarmogyf came out
"...he eats Lin Sivvi"
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You guys completely skipped over 97/98 where Serra had rotated out of standard... Frenetic Efreet!
fix the audio, guy on right is so much louder than guy on left
Juzam??
Spiritmonger must be in this list
Hey...uhhh... Is Deathrite Shaman still #1? I think so.
Nice representation of creature power creep over the years.
How much has this list changed since then.
It’s just the Standard ban list.
what about vigor
he can make small creature into unstoppable forces
What about Spirit Monger?
I think Masticore needs at least na honorable mention
back in the day, i kicked so much ass with mother of runes
No Delver?
+Jared B. (Jabber5) They mentioned, they said DRS was better.
Why are all the good creatures so old? Aren't there any amazing ones that can be used in Vintage that was printed in the last couple of years? And not Deathrite Shaman who can be killed by a Flametongue Kavu.
Monastery swiftspear is played in legacy and modern
Will of Yawgmoth I need Vintage worthy cards. Legacy and Modern aren't as skill oriented imo. But I guess for a sleigh deck that'd be ok. The last creature worthy of Vintage was Griselbrand for Griselbrand/Oath.
If you're looking for recently-printed vintage-worthy creatures that can't get axed by an FTK, you're pretty much stuck with True-Name Nemesis. Honestly, almost all of the recent creatures which have entered vintage are value-generating one and two drops like Snapcaster Mage, Young Pyromancer and Deathrite Shaman. One of the only other new creatures I've seen recently in vintage was Notion Thief in a BUG Fish sideboard. I dunno, there may be more, but I'm more of a legacy player and don't really pay too much attention to vintage in general. I'm not a fan of playing in a format with Time Vault. :P
nobonaga22 Trust me, playing against Time Vault isn't a problem at all when you're both playing Vintage. The matches are always fair. I guess the only new card I found was Griselbrand to replace my Emrakul in my Oath deck.
Jessica Zane Blightsteel Colossus and Master of the Pearl Trident are pretty strong in Vintage, as far as I can remember. I wouldn't be too knowledgeable, though, since I mostly play EDH.
Great list, some great cards missed though - jace, stoneforge...both warped standard and then modern/extended
YES ! FLAMETONGUE KAVU !
Eternal Witness?
eternal witness even though she's good it's not even close to the top8
I know Baneslayer Angel had a short run, but in its prime it was the shit.
SFM and Arcbound Ravager seem like controversial omissions (“I'm going to write a book on how to win a Pro Tour for Dummies. The first page is buy Arcbound Ravager!"), but I think the recent card that seems to get overlooked in these discussions is my favorite creature of all time, Restoration Angel.
Extremely strong in multiple format-leading Standard decks (Delver and Pod, and then both Junk Rites and UWx control), also essentially the reason that Naya Pod is a playable deck in modern, as well as being played in UWR and other fringe decks. Not played in Legacy, sure, but for me secretly the strongest creature of the last two years.
No masticore?
ouclasse BY FAR from morphling at the given time.
Im confused why flametounge and not vexing devils? Clearly an outclassed card.
FTK hits creatures
You are completely missing the point of the video. These are the most influential creatures in magics history and you want to compare them to Vexing Devil, which is barely modern playable and did practically nothing in standard. I hope you're trolling.
Clone: the original Legend killer :D
There was no original legend killer outside removal or combat.
The first Legend rule said only 1 legendary can be out at a time. Any other copies can't be cast.
What about stoneforge?
Juzam. 4 turn window.
Flying men!
Where was Emrykul????
Came here expecting to see Emraku
30 plus 24 plus 2 is 56 how do you math please
rathi dragon? masticore?