Echoplex Tape Delay vs. Echoplex Pedal | Can You Hear the Difference?
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- this is my little love letter to the Echoplex and to see if we can hear the difference against my favorite Echoplex emulation: the MXR Echoplex guitar pedal.
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Eric Hoegemeyer:
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Thanks to NAMM for the amazing footage of Mike Battle:
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00:00 The Intro
00:56 The History
03:10 The Guts
05:09 The Sounds
10:05 The Experiment
13:05 The Thoughts
15:19 The Outro Performance
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The comparison starts at 12:26
The echos from ye ol' Echoplex definitely have a unique timbre that I absolutely love, super cool to see your new space too, looking forward to the studio update/tour!
thanks for watching Matt! You can't easily replicate the wonkiness of an old machine and moving tape
what is tape delay? 🤔 --> ua-cam.com/video/ZwFzSWGNF3s/v-deo.html
You made it! Very excited.
thanks for watching all these videos!
Congratulations on the new space, man!
I have a little Univox tape delay, the Echo Chamber or EC-80A. It isn’t multi head, but it sure is fun and has a totally unique sound.
Enjoy the new space and have fun creating!
thanks again Hunter! i’ll have to look up that Univox!
"Look at these guts!" 🤣🤣🤣 this has to be a feature on every vid! Absolutely love this channel!
ahhh i gotta get the echoplex repaired! it’ll be back in service soon 🙏
Love Echoplexes. Congrats on the new studio, looks cool!
thanks Josh! if I panned the camera you'd see our "makeshift" temporary sound treatment and it would look less cool hahaha
Congrats on the new space! Your quality rises every vid, and you're infinitely more helpful than the likes of Rick Beato. Happy and proud to be here before you get huge.
i really appreciate that! Always trying to improve and ultimately it's because i genuinely enjoy helping the community if I can
hey man I really enjoyed watching this video. You are a very cool person and I like your spirit and enthusiasm. Stay how you are my friend and kick ass and rock out! love that original Echoplex... its tone is just... you can tell its real tape. its awesome! thanks for making this vide and good lucky wit the awesome new studio~!
i was confused in the second comparison haha very good pedal sound for sure...but i was able to identify "the reel" deal tape echo 2 out of 3 , excellent content keep them coming! congrats on the new space!
thanks Andrew! excited to be able to work more 🤘
Just wanna say that i really appreciate your work and channel, and like "Be good to eachother" in the end,..Thanks dear Made On Tape,..Love cheers🙏💚 BTW happy new 2023 to ya´ 😀
that’s very kind thank you. happy new year and have fun out there!
Very cool video, and the guitar pedal is really similar in the first two examples. They were definitely different in the crazy affect part. But both sound wonderful. Reminds me of a lot of the sounds on 311 records. Congrats on the new studio, looks great, best of luck!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
thanks for watching Mike! another commenter suggested high pass filtering and using a distressor (plugin could work) to make the pedal sound even MORE like the original, which I think is a very good option for most people...more accessible
@@MadeOnTape absolutely!! It wouldn’t take much effort in the DAW, to make them almost identical.
Late to this party here but someone mentioned the Carbon Copy. That is a great pedal for the money! The “mod” button is absolutely dreamy.
I was impressed with the Echoplex pedal! That is so rad for you that your studio co-leaser owns an Echoplex! For someone not in that situation it’s really great knowing the pedal produces a quality sound.
Thanks for the comparison!
love the carbon copy! My studio partner is incredible, and I don't say that lightly. thanks for listening and watching Sam!
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Oh yeah man, the tape degradation is music in my ears, incredible unit!!! Very cool!! Greetings from Brasil
thanks for listening! greetings from New York City! 🗽
Very cool comparison. I love blind ABs. A lot of times they’re good for my wallet since sometimes I prefer the cheaper alternatives to the real thing 😁
absolutely!
Sweet! Never seen one of these opened up before. I have a sony tc560 reel to reel that i wanted to repair but the parts needed are too expensive. after seeing this, i might retrofit the tape heads & solid state components into an echoplex inspired design.
Love your videos, great stuff!
yo, if you do! You gotta make a video or at least send pictures!
You have a super cool analogue studio now make lots of wicked music. Tape is where it's at. 4 Track and a mixer and then master on a CD for up-load etc. Great channel!!
Awesum vid dude! 👌
thank you! i’m hoping to get that machine fixed here in the first half of 2024 😭
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the harmonic distortion type effect on high feedback on the og is great!
i know right? thanks for listening!
That's awesome you got a real one! It was easy to tell the difference between the two. If I could ever get a killer deal on one, I'd be tempted to grab it, but I'd probably go with the Catalinbread - Belle Epoch, pedal wise. 😎
ohh i had to look that one up. Looks awesome!
There's a _bunch_ of Echoplex pedals out there.. I really nerded out a while back, trying to find one that seemed the most "faithful" without actually being a 1:1 clone using tape and that one was always one of my favorites. Never did get one though, but hopefully someday I will. 😅 For the time being, I have the Tc electronics Alter Ego, which does a bunch of vintage delays. It would still be fun to try tape though, so I'll give it a go with a R2R soon. Fun stuff! 🙂
The pedal's always at a slower timing, so I knew which one's which after I heard the first example. :P
There is a great free, VERY authentic sounding plugin for that tape delay sound: GSI VariSpeed
i’ll have to check it out! thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
Do a review of the fulltone ss tape echo if you can. And then oscillate it. Maybe compare it to the echoplex. Awesome video btw!
thank you! i’d love to do more pedal reviews and some more are coming… i will add to list!
Whoa whoa whoa
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Cool.gear.
it's got a life of its own... and that's an old, battle-worn life 😂
You should get more sound dampening in that room. There's SOO much ECHO baha Love the Echoplex!!
yeah it sounds like a baseball stadium hahaha 😂
That white noise in the A/B gave it away haha. And for that I actually prefer the pedal. I don't mind a bit of noise as long as it sits between the repeats 😅
But I'm guessing that the preamp pedal is important to get that same full sound as the real thing. Does sound at least as full in this.
When doing your vid on the Volante, could you maybe do a comparison test with the Echoplex pedal and preamp pedal. Using Volantes Rec Level to sort of match a similar full sound.
I had an El Capistan before the Volante, and it sounded fuller. On first try I was like "this is how I'd expect a real great tape delay to sound". Mind that I've tried T-Rex Replicaror Jr. D'luxe and a 3 head home recording reel to reel, and those 2 didn't sound how I'd expect a real and great sounding tape delay to sound 😅
The Volante somehow seems a little flat sounding to me. But I already knew this before switching. I wanted those extra features. But owning it now I feel like it lacks vibe somehow. Like it's a little to polished and plugin sounding. Still sounds great though.
Funny thing, I just A/B'ed between a Bucket Brigade plugin and a Deluxe Memory Boy and VD400. The plugin had better sounding repeats. But it does sound like a great hardware one. That's why I A/B'ed.
that’s a great suggestion, thank you! tape delay is the most fun to me. i’ve never tried one of those T-Rex Replicators
I liked the little dude more. It was more dirty & had a deeper bass that works better for my music. The new one sounded more vintage & flavorful with a unique groove. The original sounded more bright & tight. You'd think it would be the other way around.
The Akai Force has a Echoplex Tape Delay emulation in their Odyssey synth plugin know as Echo, but you can't send any other audio to it. It would be nice if they make it Echo standalone then I could use on anything even it's self!
I made a really crazy Test-Track with it & really liked the results, so I started doing research on it & ended up here. Now, not only did you school me on the history of this amazing device first made by Mike Battle (Dopest name ever! 😎- Mr. Battle, Jr. Battle, Sir. Battle, General. Battle, President. Battle 🫡) you also reviewed it with a remake that cost less, smaller, more easier to deal with & most importantly it even sounds better!
Also you're right across the Harlem/East River out there in BK. You would love the test beat I made using the Force's Echo delay & Odyssey with a sample from a old song. I'll pass this video around the Akai family to put them on to how dope the Echo is & it's history. Peace ✌🏾
I should get some tape loops for my Copicat
yes you should! i have the Wavesfactory plugin emulation but nothing beats the real deal!
The pedal is very cool for sure, but I was pretty surprised by how much more character the delays had on the original unit. The pedal seems to emphasize a lot more low mids and not as much treble, and the original is the opposite. Also, each repetition on the original offers slight modulation from the others, whereas the pedal repetitions are more uniform.
I use the Universal Audio Echoplex plug-in and it does an incredible job emulating the real thing. UA does an amazing job in general when it comes to reproducing analog/tape sound! Anyways, I I subscribed because I enjoyed the rundown and good vibes 😄✌️
i love UA in general and agree they do an AMAZING job! I totally agree with your assessment: the original has more character…
unfortunately ours fell into state that needs repair but will fix asap 😭
If it wasnt for the white noise i probably wouldnt be able to tell them apart
definitely love the pedal! 🎛️💚
I have always liked them both for different reasons. The pedal is muted, dry and precise. Low mids are thick. Sometimes I want that. The Echoplex is vibey with hiss, less forward and a deeper image. I like to high pass the fundamental on the pedal with a distressor after it. It gets closer to the original then. Great for guitar and Rhodes that way. My two cents deposited.
yes! that distressor idea is fantastic thanks for sharing 🙏
I use the Boss RE-20. I'll never get my hands on a real Space Echo.
It's my alway on pedal. I'd like to have the Echoplex pedals.
Perfect, I've got a MXR Carbon Copy Deluxe which is bucket brigade, but my new amp totally clips my Roland RE201 Space Echo Pedal from the effects loop of my valve amp, as I run my dirty channel like sorta Angus Young meets Van Halen dirty.
So my delays and verbs go out and back in my effects loop, my MXR has the headroom, the RE201 just clips with horrid digital clipping!!
I can see the Space Echo getting sold for the MXR Space Echo, I love the MXR Bucket Brigade but miss the fat tape saturation of my RE201.
This is damn close to the real deal actually, like an other reply said, you can hear a bit more of a "tapey vibe"
Think I'll sell my BossRE201 and get this, then I'll have Bucket Brigade and Tape Delays sorted.
Thanks awesome Video!I've been staring at my Space Echo for months thinking " sorry buddy but you gotta go"
This sealed the deal given I like my Carbon Copy so much
And congrats on the New Studio it is awesome and vibey now
thank you! I have that Carbon Copy as well. Great pedal! thanks for watching! Bummed to hear about RE201 digital clipping
@@MadeOnTape nah it's all good, it looks at me and says "keep me" but I think I'll sell it for the MXR. Great new studio, well done.
Fantastic video, I'm experimenting with routing and aux outs for my studio, I'm trying aux sends as an out to the DAW
( I got an audient ID14 )
So I can use The EQs Faders Pre's Insert Jacks Dual Midi and the second Aux for Hardware compressors and my old Quardaverb for fun.
By the way have you seen "Last Lovers Left Alive" great studio in that movie. Hybrid.
Anyway, Great video thoroughly enjoyable, inspiring and informative. Thanks
I laugh when people are amazed at seeing a Real Echoplex for the first time. My wife bought me a real one for Christmas in 1978 and it was used and I learned so much about how to use one over the years...including winding my own tapes. I used to tear the strings off of my guitar as a Finale to the night and I used the Echoplex and the slide to manipulate the sound while the band was still playing....People always went crazy with the room spinning effect...
yes!!! I'd love to have been there to see you tear it up! Thanks for sharing and watching🙏
Analog equipment will always be superior just for the amount of plug-and-play physical manipulation. I enjoy using digital hardware, like drum machines, effects processors, but I will always use analog equipment where I can.
yes! i like to live in both worlds, and for some things, analog actually makes the job easier, IMO. just all depends on what you’re after: thanks for watching!
@@MadeOnTape No problem dude. Only just discovered your channel, but loving your videos so far. And yes, mixing both digital and analog hardware can yield great results. Either unique sounds or artifacts, or the ability to layer and manipulate things in a way you just can't digitally.
I find using analog techniques gives me certain parameters to work with as well, which helps me focus when producing music
Fuck yeah everybody loves e c h o p l e x
how could you not???
A nice find, with a great exposition and delay - thank you.
Here is John Martyn in the mid-1970s: ua-cam.com/video/1X5qDeK3siw/v-deo.html
Problem with the pedal is mine hisses I had to stop using it
Any ideas?
ooh that’s no good! i’d contact MXR / Jim Dunlop’s customer service
Drop the sunshades...looks naff
i have to edit these videos and i don’t wanna look at myself 😂
The pedal couldn't called Echoplex. it's completely different sound If you compare white the original Echoplex
pedals don't sound at all like the real thing
absolutely not, but a great flavor nonetheless! Thanks for listening!
This will change music in the next decade, the 80s. I'm so tired of jimmy Carter, I wonder who will be the next president
i come from the future and I have bad news about that next prez lol
Binson Echorec
would love to get my hands on one. Have you seen the new one that came out last year?
@@MadeOnTape no i have not.... A link please...