Proper Temperature for Spray Paint Hydrodipping
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2017
- In trying to research "How To" videos on hydro-dipping, I wasn't able to find much on the water temperatures needed to have a good result. This video discusses what I learned about water temperatures & the process of hydrodipping with spray paint, followed by a quick run through with a deer head trophy.
PLEASE NOTE: When I did this video, the most important aspect of my discussion failed to mention any actual temperature, as I got more involved in talking about the process of dipping the deer head instead of mentioning an actual temperature. At the time this video was created, I did not have a digital thermometer or any way of measuring the actual temp of the water. I realize there are comments concerning this, which is why I've placed this note in the video description. I do apologize, since all I can provide is a generalized temp range of 50-60 degrees, which would've been the average temp at the time of year this video was created.
The fact that your out here just hydro dipping skulls with your kids is awesome.
Last year's skull I did was perfect, yesterday was colder outside .too many variations in temperature. Water one temp, paint another skull another. I'll wait till spring to do it outside where everything can be the same temp. Definitely makes a difference.
Hands down best explanation!!!! And I’ve watched a lot of these videos
Thanks!
I know this video is a little older but I've been surfing around for a while looking at videos like these and I love them. I've been doing some dipping myself as far as travel mugs and bottle openers! As much as the temperature of the water helps, I think the distance of your spray helps a lot as well. When you spray close the paint gets trapped slightly under the surface, so it doesn't have time to dry and clump up by the time it hits the surface of the water, as with you spray style. Not knocking your technique or anything but just wanted to share my experiences and knowledge since you were kind enough to offer yours in this video! Keep up the great work man!👍👍👍👍👍
Hey birdman1775, I appreciate your comment & compliment! I agree that distance from the water's surface can affect the way the paint places itself on whatever substrate is being used. From my sample trials prior to this video, the water temp still effected the paint in such a way that there was no positive outcome, which is why I chose to talk about it on here. Thanks for hitting subscribe as well, & check back soon since I'm getting ready for more hydro-dips, as well as some more cool artwork projects I'm working on!
@@ItsBradCrawford Ain't that nice Brad-
For those who have asked questions concerning various elements of this process, I appreciate your questions and comments. I've acquired a new skull from my daughter's kill this weekend and will be videoing the entire process (boiling the skull, drying, prepping, priming, hydro dipping, and even mounting. So, heads up in the coming weeks for a new post with better detail!
Father daughter hunting trips would make good content for your channel as well.
Do you get water bubbles stuck on your projects? I'm running into that and I can't figure out what it is that's causing it. Spray painting to close maybe? Moving too fast? Temp? Improper way to dry?
So u painted the object with primer coating first and then let it dry and then did the dipping?
this looks amazing!!!!!!
Thanks! It turned out great for my brother & he displays it next to a red, black, & white one I did as well.
This was really helpful
Looks Awesome! 😎💯
Thanks! It was for my brother & he loves displaying them...great conversation pieces!
Darren Ogle, thank you so much, as well as all other subscribers! Your subscription to my channel sent me into the 100 subscribers club! Stay tuned, as there are videos coming...I've just had a number of things preventing uploads from happening. I've acquired a number of new skulls to dip, and will also take requests for other items you want to see hydro-dipped, so let me know what you'd like to see!
Whats name a spray??
@@reneilmangas6329 look down in other comments for the answer to your question in mote detail, but I used Rustoleum.
I think warmer water dries the paint too fast because the solvents in the paint will evaporate sooner, so it makes sense to use colder water!
I would agree, but also caution that water that is too cold can have an adverse effect as well. That was my experience in trying to get a good dip in January prior to this video later in the year. Thanks for your comment!
@@ItsBradCrawfordso you would recommend Luke warm water?
@@937youngjay I would say that 55-65 degrees would be good.
Thank you for this tip
Awesome love the video thanks man! Can I ask what specific kind of spray paint you like to use? I'm trying to figure out which to purchase.... if i need a specific kind for spray hydro dipping i.e. oil based or something 🤷
Rustoleum is the brand I've used and had success with. Stick to acrylic based, as oil based will not work. Best of luck!
Nice job,,, was there any gunky residue left on the skull..??
Thank you! To answer your question...none! As a matter of fact, after it dried, it was smooth. The only thing I did afterward was that I added a clear coat with Rust-oleum Clear Gloss Acrylic, which gave it a nice "finished" appearance.
Hi! I tried this today with my Xbox controller shell. I found mine to be quite sticky and clumpy. I’m using an acrylic spray. Any tips? Am I dipping too fast? Wrong paint?
I'll tell you a similar thing I told FishFear Me32: It's hard to say without seeing your process. Did you properly prep (sand &/or prime) the item being dipped? What brand of spray paint are you using to prime? Are you using the same brand for the paint used on the surface? Are you spraying too close to the water's surface? Are you allowing the paint to sit on the water's surface too long? Are you dipping the item you're using into the water too quickly? What's your process for drying the item you've dipped? These are all possible factors to consider for any part of the process where there are issues. Since this seems to be a common issue, I may try to focus on that in the next video I do.
I've watched a couple other videos and all seem to talk about how fast the paint sets up or balling on there swirling to stick, then Iv seen other people just spray the paint directly into the spray paint can lid and then pour the paint on the surface of the water from the lid. Have you tried that?
I haven't tried to pour the paint on top of the water after spraying out of the can into a container before, but first, guess would say that it would break the surface tension of the water too quickly and just ball up as well. I'll look into it with the next attempts coming up in a few weeks (once the weather here in Texas starts to act like actual spring instead of winter with an attitude!)
As far as the paint setting up quickly and balling up on the swirling stick...I was experiencing this as well, which is why you have to be ready to dip as soon as you finish laying out the pattern. Even in this video, the paint stuck to my swirling stick. As a matter of fact, it created a small gap where there was no paint transfer on the bottom of the skull. This is another reason you have to prime with whatever base color you wish to be seen because this can happen.
Thanks for your comments, and keep watching, as I hope to have new videos posted showing more hydro-dips in the coming weeks!
Hi great video! I'm wondering about the paint as well. I was trying to use the krylon 2x but when I would spray into the water it would not spray like yours, it would be really thin circles not a big cloud of spray paint. is there a reason for that?
It could be that your water temp was too cold. I found that same problem when I had the colder water. Once I found that the water was more around 50-60 degrees, it seemed to do better. Another possibility is that you may be spraying too close to the surface of the water, as this too will cause the same issue. Try spraying around 6-8 inches from the water's surface and see if that allows the paint to sit on the surface better. Hope that helps...and good luck!
My paint always sticks to the top when I try mixing, I need help
Read through some of my previous replies to other comments. There should be an answer that fits your problems with a sticky top found there. Hope that helps.
So I'm trying hydrodipping but have the problem of the paint kinda hardening in a thin layer on top of the water. Instead of it looking flowy and in solid color. Any tips? Thanks!
It may depend on the size of project you're working with, or even the size of container you're spraying into. If the paint is hardening, you may need to speed up your dipping time to right after you've sprayed on the surface of the water, as there is a short window before the paint will start to dry on the surface. Time is the enemy, so try to work quickly!
Brad Crawford hmm OK. I'll try your tips. Thanks!
Haven't tried this yet and no one specifies the difference but it seems the people doing the premade patterns are the ones who recommend the warm water. Tap water seems better when you're trying paint swirl like this example.
Eric, when I first tried to do this, it was still winter conditions, so I warmed my water to around 98-100 degrees. It was a total failure, as none of the paint would float on the surface. All it would do is clump up and fall below the surface. With that said, I used water straight out of the tap around the time that this video was posted (I believe around March-April timeframe) and found success. Unfortunately, I didn't gauge my water temp, so I don't know exactly what it was. I've acquired a number of other deer heads and will be posting new videos in the near future...so keep an eye out for my new attempts. Thanks for your comment!
How do I prevent water bubbles in the finish product
It would be hard to say without seeing your process. Did you properly prep (sand &/or prime) the item being dipped? What brand of spray paint are you using to prime? Are you using the same brand for the paint used on the surface? Are you spraying too close to the water's surface? Are you allowing the paint to sit on the water's surface too long? Are you dipping the item you're using into the water too quickly? What's your process for drying the item you've dipped? These are all possible factors to consider.
I do acrylic pouring and haven't tried this yet .my only question is why so much paint when only using a smal space of paint. And can you dip more than one item at a time.
You can guage how much paint you use, but I just coat the surface until it looks right on each ring layer. You probably won't be able to get more than one item dipped because you have to move the paint out of the way before bringing the item you dipped back out of the water. Enjoy!
Wow.... fabulous
Thank you!
I dipped some gun parts in warm water, used the xylene or whatever that is in the can light coat on over this whole thing I dipped it but the film was already starting to come apart within like 40 seconds. I did some other ones a few months ago in tap water semi cold it came out perfect so I think putting warm Waters bulshit
its for spray paint (the warm water)
What kind spray did you use, made by whom etc, would love to know.
I used Rustoleum 2x paint + primer for all colors. I used the same brand for all (you don't want to mix brands due to possible inconsistencies.) Primed white for my base coat, then followed what you see on the video for the rest. Hope that helps...good luck!
what type of primer do you use to prep and do you have to scuff up the primer or do you go right over it raw? thanks
I used Rust-Oleum 2-in-1 paint & primer. I applied 2 coats and then after it had time to dry (about 30 minutes) is when I did the hydro-dip. You don't have to scuff it up, and I would say apply enough primer to make sure your piece is thoroughly covered.
+Brad Crawford thank you
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@@ItsBradCrawford water temperature how much?
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At the time this was filmed, the tap water was around 50-60 degrees (best guess). I did not, however have a thermometer put on it for an exact temperature.
So when you say the water is straight out of the tap...does that mean it's cold?
It was coming from my outside water spigot, so it was water straight from the city water source...no hot water, just ambient temperature for that time of year. I didn't have a thermometer in the water at the time, but our average temp at the time this was filmed was around 55-60 degrees average.
nice work! ive been attempting to do this on a 10 inch mini guitar replica but cant get it to come out right. the paint always seems to "film up" right away, then when i attempt to swirl it with a toothpick, it all just clumps and balls up on the end of the toothpick. never figured out why, but after going thru about 10 cans of paint, i eventually gave up lol
Thanks! I did this for my brother, and he was really happy with the end results (I did another one in black, red, and white, but didn't film it.) Now, by "film up" do you mean it gets clumpy...or just creates a film on top of the water? If it's getting clumpy that may be telling you that the water is too warm. If you're seeing a film of paint just sitting on top, that's what's supposed to happen.
Concerning the use of a toothpick, I would think you might need to use something a bit bigger to move the paint around...like a pencil, a dowel, or heck - use a broken fishing rod...which is what I used! LOL Either way...don't give up yet...try, try again!
It seems like it films up instantly, but not in a good way. i noticed when you spray, you get nice rings of differet colors, when i spray i don't get the color rings, mine seems to instantly film up, then when i spray the next color it pretty well "blows apart" the other color and i end up with gobs of paint. Concerning the toothpick, im only trying to dip a small guitar replica that isn't much bigger than the palm of my hand. the container im using is about as big around as a Cool Whip container and about 3 times as tall. But regardless, everything seems to stick to the toothpick and clump up...meaning after i attempt to swirl the paint everything instantly sticks to it and when i try to remove the toothpick all the paint clings to it and the paint ends up just coming out when i pull out the toothpick.....all the paint i sprayed all comes out in one big ball stuck to the toothpick lol
........some had also made a comment about spraying to far away from my water container, is there a prefrence to this? should i be spraying closer or far away?
Part of your problem is likely the size of the container you are using. The cool whip container wouldn't allow for the paint to disperse across the water before the next burst of air from the spray paint can push it out of the way, thus creating that clumping effect you mentioned. I would almost bet that if you were to use a much larger container (like the size of the one I'm using [width & length...it doesn't have to be the same depth] you would see a noticeable difference. Even still, if you're able to get the paint to do what it's supposed to do, I would use something a bit larger than the toothpick to move the paint around.
I know it seems like overkill for a smaller project, but by the way the aerosol works in the can, you're most likely going to see the same results every time you try using the smaller container. Hope that helps...and good luck!
The answer would be, "Yes..." You want to be about mid-range from the water. In other words, not too far away where the paint isn't able to form the film it needs to on the surface, but not too close where the aerosol pushes the paint away from your target area. Make sure you read my comment concerning size of container though, as I think that is the bigger issue.
What is the best spray paint you have found for this
I've tried ColorPlace (a Wal-Mart brand) and Krylon, but didn't have any luck with them...they seem to clump up instead of sit on the surface. Instead, I used Rustoleum 2x paint + primer for all colors. I used the same brand for all (you don't want to mix brands due to possible inconsistencies.) Primed white for my base coat, then followed what you see on the video for the rest. Hope that helps...good luck!
Plz tell me what colors u used
I used two different greens (Hunter Green & Grass Green - I believe that's the color descriptions on Rustoleum) and then White. All paints were gloss paints concerning the sheen, and after dipping them and letting them dry, I put a protective clear coat on them.
"the temperature of this water is straight out of the tap"
Straight out of the tap with only the cold open? Hot? Both handles wide open?
Good point, Derek! It was coming from my outside water spigot, so it was water straight from the city water source...no hot water, just ambient temperature for that time of year. I didn't have a thermometer in the water at the time, but our average temp at the time this was filmed was around 55-60 degrees average.
@@ItsBradCrawford then why say temperature in the title but u didn't even take the damn temperature. Wtf
@@ThaKidTrialzLF calm down brother this was helpful. Just out of the tap keep hot water out of it.
So what water temp is best: hot, warm, cool, or cold? I want to make sure I can draw a stick through my paint without moving an entire sheet of it.
When I did this video, the most important aspect of my discussion failed to mention any actual temperature, as I got more involved in talking about the process of dipping the deer head instead of mentioning an actual temperature. At the time this video was created, I did not have a digital thermometer or any way of measuring the actual temp of the water. I realize there are comments concerning this, which is why I've placed this note in the video description. I do apologize, since all I can provide is a generalized temp range of 50-60 degrees, which would've been the average temp at the time of year this video was created.
@@ItsBradCrawford I appreciate the swift reply and the ballpark estimate. Still a good video 👍
What kind of paint are you using
C.B., I used Rustoleum paints, and as a preference, I used the Gloss sheen on all three colors. I just have a preference to Rustoleum, although I'm sure you could use Krylon, Montana, or any other spray paint, as long as it is acrylic.
What brand paint is best?
Best? I can't say for sure which is actually "best", but what I can say is that I've tried both Krylon and Rustoleum, and in my experiences with these two brands, Rustoleum won out. I like the way it spreads evenly across whatever project substrate I'm working with, and it seems to stay on much better than Krylon. With that said, I don't have experiences with any other brands, so I can't say that this is a "hands-down", 100%, only brand I'd use scenario...it's just the one that worked for this particular project. I hope that answers your question.
My paint keeps wadding up on the stick. What am I doing wrong.
It's hard to say for sure without watching you do it. What size stick are you using? You may want to use an unbent hanger, or something else thin...like my broken fishing rod. How fast are you stirring? You have to get in, stir your pattern, and get out as quick as you can. The slower you go, the more the paint will try to stick to whatever you use to stir with. Finally, what paint are you using? You need to make sure it is an acrylic-based paint. I use Rustoleum 2x paint & primer in different colors. Hope this helps...good luck!
@@ItsBradCrawford I'm using the same paint I watched another video and realized by what he showed it was too cold I didn't let it sit I went straight in out of the tap cold.
so what is the proper tempm
Straight out of the tap
What’s the dry time?
Dry time can vary, based on outside temps and the size of object you're dipping. For this one (which is all I can really go by) it was dried to a "tacky"-touch within a couple of hours. I left it hanging overnight though, and by the next day it was completely dry. I actually did two of them back to back and both of them finished drying around the same time. Hope that helps!
It Can Works In Any Brand Of Spray Paints like Bosny ?
I'm not positive if it works across ALL brands of spray paint, as I've only used one brand in hydrodipping. The only thing I can suggest is to simply try it out with the paint you have available, and see how well it works. A big part of the artistic process is trial & error.
Thank You Sir Brad Crawford
Sir Anton Chigurh how About Acrylic paint It Can Be ?
@@kabarovlogs9870 You are welcome, sir. Anytime!
@@kabarovlogs9870 Acrylic is what I'm using in this video (Rustoleum brand).
So pretty
Omg that’s amazing
Thank you!
What brand and type of spray paint are you using?
Rustoleum Gloss paints
Thank you! I just had an epic fail and later read it was fast dry.
@@torresjiujitsu7651 No worries...anytime!
@@torresjiujitsu7651 I am finding this out the hard way..
What is "the temperature of the tap?!?!?!?! My houshold tap can have many diff temp! !
At the time this was filmed, the tap water was around 50-60 degrees (best guess). I did not, however have a thermometer put on it for an exact temperature.
Primer white for a base coat or can you use gloss enamel. Also what kind of paint for dipping. Thanks
@@redneckfarmer6584 you want enamel, oil based, not water based. Rustoleum.
Do you add borax to your water? If so, how much borax per gallon of water? Have you tried a flat spray paint like the camo ones out there?
No borax added...I'm not even sure if that would change the effect, but it sounds interesting. I was trying a flat camo spray the first time I did this, but didn't have success. I'm not quite sure if it was due to the temperature of my water, or due to the paint because I didn't try it again when it warmed up outside. I'll try to get another deer head and try again. If I have a positive result, I'll make sure to post it as well.
Absolutely love this. Mine is not working
Why do you think that is? If you're taking tap water with Temps below 50 degrees, it could cause clumping.
What paint? . And is it gloss or flat.
What paint and what color green
After I dipped it and let it dry, I then used a gloss clear coat. I use Rust-Oleum paints because they tend to coat better. I've had good luck with Rust-Oleum, so I stick with that.
Brad Crawford yea. But The paint itself. Not after. Is the paint a gloss or a flat
So sorry tropicthunderbolt...it is also a gloss. After it dries, it doesn't have the polished gloss look though. Some people may like that, but I like the higher gloss look, which is why I used the gloss clear coat as well.
Brad Crawford yea. I tried. Couldn't do it. I was dipping pvc. Primered it and everything. Tried cold water straight from the tap. Warm water. The paint kept setting so evertime I tried to stir it it would just clump up. All my dip tries were garbage.
Can you just do a solid color ?
Yes, you can. I did another object with a solid white to lay a base coat, and then liked it so much, I just kept it white.
You idiots. What's the point of hydro dipping if you're doing a solid color. The objective of hydro dipping is to transfer intricate designs onto the SURFACE of objects.
@@nickpurdy5274 lmfao
What’s the brand of the spray
Rustoleum
Somewhere I heard oil based is that necessary?
@@docdoc4129 Actually, the opposite...need to use acrylic paint.
@@ItsBradCrawford thanks man we have some plasma cut metal pieces we want to try to dip.
Thx broo
Talks about temperature being important then doesn't mention the temperature of his tap water. Tap water in late spring varies with geographic position.
Please see the "PLEASE NOTE" section within the video description for reasons behind this. I apologize for not being clear on the temp, as I was focused more on the process instead of the actual physical temp at the time the video was made.
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Every time i do it i get water spots
I'm not really sure what you mean by water spots. Would you be able to send me a picture?
@@ItsBradCrawford i cant on here but its like dots from the water like blisters
@@lukesouthworth9310 What spray paint brand and sheen are you using?
@@ItsBradCrawford rost oleum
@@lukesouthworth9310 Okay, that's the brand I'm using in the video. Are you using a 'gloss', 'semi-gloss', 'satin', or 'flat' sheen?
Idk why but I seem to have better luck with warmer water.
Agreed, Bill. It seems that the paint clumps up when cooler water is used. Thanks for your input!
Nice headline for the video to get people to watch and never find out the temperature of the water😒Thumbs down for me....
So sorry there isn't an "exact" temp mentioned. I didn't get a thermometer out to test the water. Just after 00:23 I talk about the winter temp I thought I needed, which was done in early spring in Texas, where the water temp out of the tap would be around 50-60 degrees. I apologize, as you are the first person in 26,000 views to mention this directly! There was no intention to create "click bait", as I thought I instructed better than that! Hope you were able to at least grab a few things from the video anyway.
Soooo what's the temperature of the water? 😂😂 heat temperature is "out of the tap"
What kind of paint dude
Rustoleum 2x Paint & Primer Spray Paint (See Description)
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