Make sure you use a your meter next time, take down your opponent *before* they can attack. You are a rushdown character right? Edit: Sidenote: Make sure you aren't a grappler. Women don't like being suddenly grabbed, getting Pot Buster'd, & low tiers. Edit Edit: If you ever need to practice your combos, you can call us fam. We're here to help you out in any way we can.
@@pkthegod2685 I just can't understand fps games personally. What makes them better than fighters in your opinion? Maybe there's something I don't understand.
@@mranvil05 and if perfect practice isn’t working? Friendly reminder that we’re all human, and most humans kinda suck at waiting for payoff. A good portion of us want our instant gratuity from playing games. We want things to feel good _now._ So we could practice perfectly, or… contrarily, we could find something that’s fun to practice instead, and do that. Fighting games suck to practice at, and they suck at making you feel like you’re accomplishing something until you achieve some mixture of zen and absolute *godliness.*
1:32 "This is because unlike math class, we're not just doing math with our brain and a pencil, we're doing it with our hands" I don't see the problem here, I've always written by moving my pencil with sheer brain power.
My dad is the one who got me into fighting games because he’s a sf2 veteran and the first time I played sf4 with him he kicked my ass in the coolest way. Ever since then it’s been my goal to finally match up to his skill, it’s been 4 years and I’m getting there but he’s improving a lot too
One of the reason I quit Moba hahahaha I mean we still can carry them, but really? I have to deal with that kind of person in my 20-40ish minute games. Nahhh I'm good.
I think fighting games share this with sports, art and many other things. Ultimately to excel at something you have to grow as a human, and by mastering that pursuit you in turn grow as a person!
4:43 "Performing in front of other people & seeing their approval can be a very powerful source of validation, & that validation is often what drives people to get better" as someone who didn't get much attention as a kid, this is so true!
I think it's much more rhythm than math. There's a little "speed geometry" but it feels so removed from math that it doesn't sit well in my mind. FGs feel much more like a dance than doing math
Your take on the nature of Fighting Games is part of why they are so great! A good chunk of the Psychology of Fighting Games is finding flaws in how your opponent internalizes the game. I mean to say, someone who conceptualizes the game as Geometry vs Dance vs Songwriting would all play differently. This diversity means that we have to learn how to fight these other styles by re-defining and wrapping them in our own conceptualization (understanding geometry as a type of dance.) Isn't that great?
I'll never forget my first tournament...making it to finals, and the hype when we picked Dio vs Jotaro for finals, and the sheer energy when I got my opponent with time stop into road roller and the whole crowd screaming "Road-ah rollah daaaaaaa!" And it was just so magical.
"When I was a kid, nearly everyone around me made me feel like video games were a waste of time... Fighting games taught me that if I think something is cool, worrying what others think is the REAL waste of time!" One of my favorite quotes and something I'm definitely stealing!
Core-A with another top-notch quality video, sharing the thoughts of thousands, perhaps millions, of why they play Fighting Games. Time stamps for each section below. 0:38 - 2:36: Learning to do hard stuff is cool as hell. 2:37 - 2:57: Abstract Problem Solving. 3:00 - 4:28: Winning and losing is all on you. 4:29 - 6:56: You are a performer. 6:57 - 8:21: Everybody is the hero of their own story. Remainder being subscribing, Patreoning, Twitch supporting, and an ad for The Ridge Wallet.
I hate that so little of this is part of the experience for some fighting games, may it be not enough people playing it (in your region) so you cant visit locals or horrible balance and game design just to realize that you spend thousands of hours to a game you thought would get better after you get good at it. Regardless, great video.
I love fighting games because there’s always someone better. You are always being pushed by others and you’re always learning from those experiences. The excitement of the challenge is the best thing ever
easier said than done. you try telling a new player a "simple" thing of x FG .... and not all clinge to x genre and not all ready to get bodied (it's good for you btw)
Hope this video gives you some inspiration when you feel these games are kicking your ass. Thanks to Patrick Miller for the essay and Evil Bill for the video. Also, thanks to Ridge Wallet for being back to sponsor another video. If you want 10% off a wallet, go to ridge.com/COREAGAMING. Enjoy the vid!
Ty for the video Pat, Core A always putting out good stuff, you might want to invest in a pop filter or do an audio edit pass/ change some settings in future. 0:081:001:021:041:262:003:534:244:545:145:306:207:04
Loved this, keeps me thinking about how the first thing I'm doing when its safe to gather in groups again, is find a local scene for a game and get into it, I've always loved the community you get when you get into a game, or the fgc in general!
"If you feel like you're wasting your time cause you cant get any better, try playing fighting games" But what if I'm trying to get good at fighting games but it feels useless? Haha...
The truth is if you do try and fail, it feels terrible but in FACT you are getting better. You just need someone from the outside to tell you that fact cuz we often lose sight of objectivity when immersing ourselves in something. So find friends who support you. you see very few shonen heroes can become successful all by themselves. Naruto has his allies, Luffy has the straw hats, etc.
In the Trial mode of KOF 13, Vice was the character that I mastered. I did all 10 of her trails. It took about a month. Countless hours put into inputs. I almost cried when I saw "COMPLETE" on the final trial. It felt fantastic.
Yeah in my local Smash scene, I would generally play Zelda in Smash 4, and she was considered low-tier, but I would still win with her. when I would walk in to the venue, I would hear, "oh, it's that Zelda player," and it would make me feel so good and gave me confidence. now my daughter watches me play Street Fighter and she loves it, so that's all that really matters to me is that she can see me play.
For me, it was my Smash 4 PAC-man at my college. I played every chance I got. I enjoyed using tricks and beating people in silly ways. One day, a newcomer starts playing as often as I do. This Andy guy, he was really good and often beat the pants off of me. I hated fighting him, but whenever I told him I wasn’t in the mood to play, he begged me to fight him because I was the best Pac-man he ever fought. He said I was...unique. I’m told I’m fun to play against and people are shocked how good I am at perfect parries [I thank 3rd strike for that.] It’s really nice to know a player who was more skilled than I was thought I was good. It’s nice to be validated just by being really fun and interesting, and I had the pleasure of playing against some interesting people. Growing up with little friends to compete with, it meant a lot to me.
@@Aflay1 haha I respect that. my boy iFox in Texas told me I'm impossible to tag with Snake C4, and I'm like, "I've only been playing Daisy for like 2 days now," and he was like "YOOOOO THIS IS YOUR MAIN." Felt good because he was miles ahead of me, and I tricked him into thinking I was playing her longer lol. But that's the beauty if you have a strong scene. Even the "weakest link" can manage to hold it together at times. Same with SF4 when I started playing here and just hearing other more veteran players saying I had good reads and mix-ups with my Makoto. I almost teared up lol
This video will hold a special place in my heart because when my mom was terminally sick with cancer monthes ago, I was able to show her this and a documentary and I was able to get her to understand why I’ve loved fighting games for all these years
"When your playing a fighting game it feels like your having a great conversation without saying a single word" that sums up how my matches with my homies go its so accurate.
I do love this kind of videos because they offer me a window into the mind of people who dedicate to this sort of thing. Although it's rare that any of them makes me take on the hobby itself, It's amazing to see what kind of awesome people inhabit the community. Thanks as always for making these
We've gotta feel pride in what we enjoy. It's been so long since the last IRL tournament, it's like a light in my life has been off. If a video like this can make me remember that feeling for a moment, it's worth it.
@@calvino6949 ngl it does come off as a bit pretentious with the whole "fighting games are math and chess" thing, but I don't think the video is meant to be that serious anyway
@@Snow1482 There are certainly similarities to speed chess, or dance. But it makes me consider more why we put math and chess on such a high pedestal in the first place. All skill can be commendable after all.
This channel is my absolute favorite when it comes to talking about video games. Every video has an amazing level of wit, polish and general feel-good energy.
I love fighting games, but I do not have any faith in me getting as good as I want to be or even remotely close to it no matter how much time and effort I spend on it. But I will not give up.
I think "winning and losing is all on you" is kind of a hard sell and what often becomes off-putting about the genre to outsiders. And I don't really think it ever is anyway, because the community is what makes this so unique from other games and having those people to practice with or cheer you on at locals or in tournaments is what makes things all the more gratifying and affirming.
Because landing a gorgeous Bodega combo with Kyo makes you feel alive 0:43 (Esaka Forever starts kicking) "Oh yeah! That's the stuff! That's the pepper!"
Honestly, its the people that keep me coming back to the scene. Even if you're someone who "retires" from competing, more often than not, you're gonna still attend events/keep up-to-date on that game. Maybe you won't enter a bracket,, but maybe you'll do some crew battles, or money matches, or even play some casual matches. Its sick and its great to know that most people who may stop competing in a game, can still sit down and play with others, as if they had never left the scene. That, and the storylines for players are always really fun to watch unfold.
You guys have introduced me to alot of cool fighting game players and completely convinced me to get good at any fighting game I come across, and regardless, have pretty good informational and persuasive videos I could binge for a solid few hours (before my brain runs out of steam trying to understand what netcode really is or why frame data is important). Your channel is amazing!
its super cool that fighting games bring pretty much the same mental strenght and conditioning as actual fiighting training. But they differ on how they will destroy your body
4:35 Why do I get anxiety when I do that? You know performance anxiety, even trying to do a single thing infront of a single person. I mean of course, I'm not good at that skill, but I do worse when I feel like someone is watching over my shoulder, instead of ignoring them, I get nervous and do worse. But ofc it's different when it comes to video games, because I'm lost but still it does the opposite affect for me, sometimes.
Something kinda abstract that playing fighting games taught me is the difference between courage and carelessness. If you run in and mash you get punished, but hanging back too afraid to approach also gets you nowhere. My play got a lot better when I told myself I wasn’t afraid of my opponent, and I think that’s something good for my life.
This is the reason i love fighting games so much. The sick plays, the characters that play the characters, the outplays the upsets the new guys the low tier characters that are put to work. Its why im so sad that the fighting game community is hurting from COVID-19
Every time i see one of your videos you put me in the corner of my bed imagine what feels do some things like combos or readings, sadly i havw no FG on my possession, but still love your videos 💖
I'm not gonna lie, I miss Gerald these days, but Patrick, seriously, I'm so happy to have you here making videos for Core-A. I love your input on fighting game concepts and your particular brand of humor. Hope to see and hear more of you on this channel.
Other than ignorance, I cannot imagine why people compare fighting games to chess instead of go. In chess, a bishop is always a bishop; in go, a stone is defined by the stones which precede it-you know, like a combo or an antiair.
Well familiarity is another reason, everyone knows chess, but few pepole know the ruleset of go. If I am explaining which games I play there is no value in explaing that with games others are unfamiliar with. This is the reason why I tell other Gamers I play games like Street Fighter and Tekken, even though the airdashers I play are quite different.
At chess even though a bishop is always a bishop, a bishop's strength also depends on its position and the position of other pieces. Fighting games are comparable to chess. At fighting games, there are defensive or aggressive style characters. Same case with chess. At fighting games, it has counter attack, chess also has counter attack.
I'd say pretty much any game teaches you skills that translate to real life :) I've been a gamer pretty much all my life and I have learned a lot of things from games, even socially ^^
im not so much into fighting games but, i get the feeling... i practice Bjj and its basically the "ultimate test" that everyone should experience. im a dark souls player, is not a "complex combat" game but all this stuff apllies in pvp.
My favorite part of fighting games is how you become your character. It´s like a fusion of both emerges from that screen, you can tell who´s playing the character just looking to the screen. This "magic" only occurs on fighting games. Maybe is because hours of grinding, i don´t know. But it´s breathtaking.
Fighting games are super fun, even as a FPS main. In FPS, you can still succeed when not thinking, just running and gunning (commonly called “running around like a monkey”) while in Fighting games you have to HAVE to think which introduces mind games which are super thrilling.
Always gotta come visit a Core-A video. This is a great encapsulation of fighting games in general. The comment that really stuck with me is that a lot of people don't realize they like speed math, but only when you can do something with it. So many people talk about frames, plus or minus, etc. that probably don't even care for math in its educational setting. Because ultimately they probably won't use calculus unless they can use it in a field like statistics or physics.
I think what often causes “hard reads” to feel annoying, for me, anyway, is that not a lot of games have outside conditions that affect what your opponent wants to do. If you’re knocked down, you can be thrown, attacked, or some other option upon getup, and you have no idea which. You can take a wild guess based off what your opponent tends to do, but if they’re even half-decent at generating random options, you’re gonna have a rough time trying to do that. And since their ONLY goal is to be unpredictable, given that a lot of the characters who’re going to put you in this situation are going to get similar rewards from each option, there’s no evaluation on both sides determining risk, reward, and unpredictability all at once. It’s almost exclusively about winning the micro interactions then and there, rather than the macro gameplan that strategy games focus on. Reads have their place, certainly, but I’ve always felt that they emphasize player choice to an unhealthy degree, offering little I know the way of consideration for outside, uncontrollable circumstances.
I think it's really interesting how differently things are percieved. I love the video, and will defend fighting games being worth it, but some points presented are pretty much exactly opposite to my experience. In point 1, I dislike that the execution is so hard in Fighting games, because i specifically do not enjoy learning the hard execution as a preamble to getting to the pvp section of the game. In Reason 2, it feels weird to say that over time, the work put in gets rewarded and you get to feel that you are good at things, because playing fighting games made me question whether i'll ever be good at something. Because as i keep doing it, i keep being bad. I used to think i was good at things, fighting games has taught me im not, and that some skills i just can not learn.
Haha so true I was playing dbz fighterz for less than a week before I got my first salty personal message. Less than a day for the first rage quit and man the toxic behavior u run into in other fighting games is just ridiculous. Wish they'd make a video about that.
@@leeadirn thats more directed at professional players not casual online matches. A video on this subject would be more focused on the general toxicity you encounter online. This would have to entail the insane amounts of racism you find on places like fightcade, the countless toxic threads on reddit that are just echo chambers for assholes, the messages you will receive from both gloating or salty players, the fact that if you play fighting games you probably have a list of people you've had to block. And just the general archetypes of toxic people you run into online.
I love when Im playing Tekken 7 and my 5 year old is cheering me on, roasting my opponent on their customizations or losing,, quoting Negan as i smack people around with a bat, hell he even points some things out about my opponents play style some times. When he is cheering me on i legit do so much better. I can definitely see how having an entire crowd on your side hyping you up can improve your game play.
You want to know why I gave up fighting games? The community. Never in my life has an online community been so disrespectful. Yes COD is equally if not worse, difference is I can mute them. Every fighting game I have played their is no mute option. Fought a guy who was blasting the sound from the game into his mic. Had to mute my whole TV system.
I will never be good at fighting games because I haven't really improved over a few decades of practice, but I will always love them anyway. I'm glad so many people around the world appreciate this type of entertainment. There was a period in the early 2000s (before SF IV) that the genre seemed in decline but it sure bounced back strong and the market is supporting a large number of fighting titles right now so I'm happy.
The last point is the greatest truth. Even if Tekken's S3 and S4 were really underwhelming on the balance side of things, the offline events I did in S3 were some of my greatest moments in gaming.
I've never been dedicated enough to be good at fighting games (plus, grew up in a small town with no arcade scene and crappy internet), but I still love the idea of fighting games. At 34, I enjoy watching pros play more than I've ever enjoyed pulling off a crazy combo vs the CPU (because I had no one else to play with).
I just can't agree with any statement that goes like "game xy will teach you something useful in real life". Someone in my formula student (students designing and building race cars) team once told me: " I cant picture you playing fighting games, you do everything so slowly" So no dexterity carried over. Same with math and especially empathy. And they didn't really boost my will to speak publicly either. I made a lot of friends thanks to a local fighting game scene tho. And they are fun. Especially with your homies spectating. Anything beyond that seems unrealistic to me.
That’s start about math is the same for music, it’s LITERALLY using your ears to calculate pleasing sounds, which are ratios between wavelengths. Your ears are doing multiplication and division to produce the next sound
Except... (Spoilers) It still fails. Poor kid tried his best to git gud to confess to her and still lost in the tourney finals, Oono went to the US, and the other love choice is the filthy Rugal picker.
@@SourRobo8364 Fighting games do the same thing to me as well in addition to stressing me to the point where i can barely keep my temper under control even when i win. Holding down an actual job and staying in good physical and mental health is much more important to me than being good at a fighting game could ever be.
@Angela Evans A lot of people who play fighting games will pretend to be your friend but once you stop playing fighting games, they will likely ghost you. I know this because it has happened to me once. Fighting game free is the way to be in my book.
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2:54 "When I approach a woman, I try and bait the flash kick"
Jokes on you, all my attempts wiffed and was promply punished.
Jokes on all the girls who punished me, I’m into that shit
Ah you got hit by that unblockable restraining order too?
try blocking her after you get close
Make sure you use a your meter next time, take down your opponent *before* they can attack.
You are a rushdown character right?
Edit: Sidenote: Make sure you aren't a grappler. Women don't like being suddenly grabbed, getting Pot Buster'd, & low tiers.
Edit Edit: If you ever need to practice your combos, you can call us fam. We're here to help you out in any way we can.
just pick a top tier -sanford kelly
Core-A Gaming is one of the reasons why Fighting Games are worth it
Stop suckin
Core A actually took the time to create and post this video...thats worth it !
I agree. The things I've learned from watching this channel really opened my eyes to the fgc and human nature. Fighting games are only the medium.
Facts
Aww~
You had me at "Competitive speed geometry anime wrestling."
Feels accurate
7:58 for anyone wondering. Heard it as I was reading this comment lol
Put that on a shirt (:
If you enjoy doing it, and it isnt hurting anyone, then it's always worth it. Even if you aren't very good at it
I totally agree with you on that
That’s what she said!
But pain is the best part 😈
@@hpdam6650 your profile pic fits perfectly with your comment XD
I love playing Alex, Urien and Twelve in 3rd strike even if I get mixed up to hell and back, and couldn't parry if my life depended on it
Core a videos are such a fast click, fighting games are life
Nah. fighting games are cool and all, but it will always be FPS games for life.
@@pkthegod2685 I just can't understand fps games personally. What makes them better than fighters in your opinion? Maybe there's something I don't understand.
Fighting games are life? Nah, smash bros is life
@@ptato3010 Smash is a fighter... a platform fighter. But yeah, Smash is awesome.
@@ptato3010 my main game is smash lol, ive got like 700 hours in it rn
Hard Reads: Why Taking Time Out of Your Day to Watch CORE-A Gaming is Worth It
There's no read that's just the true.
true
6:27 Tasty Steve is the most motivating man in history. That "Let's go young man!" was heartwarming.
“Dude, sucking at something is the first step toward kinda being good at something.”
-Jake the Dog.
Not always, sometimes you just suck and don't improve.
@@machina4200 How long have you been training ? Not just playing. Trying to improve on your mistakes.
Man I love that show
@@machina4200 if you are not seeking improvement you will never improve. Practice does not make perfect, but rather the perfect practice makes perfect
@@mranvil05 and if perfect practice isn’t working? Friendly reminder that we’re all human, and most humans kinda suck at waiting for payoff. A good portion of us want our instant gratuity from playing games. We want things to feel good _now._
So we could practice perfectly, or… contrarily, we could find something that’s fun to practice instead, and do that. Fighting games suck to practice at, and they suck at making you feel like you’re accomplishing something until you achieve some mixture of zen and absolute *godliness.*
1:32 "This is because unlike math class, we're not just doing math with our brain and a pencil, we're doing it with our hands"
I don't see the problem here, I've always written by moving my pencil with sheer brain power.
holy shit guys it’s a puppet character
@@kingkrispy5289 LMAO pretty much
Yeah this guy's dumb.
Gerald's the only one I'll watch, and for good reason
@@NSLM yikes
I see, the floor is made out of floor
My dad is the one who got me into fighting games because he’s a sf2 veteran and the first time I played sf4 with him he kicked my ass in the coolest way. Ever since then it’s been my goal to finally match up to his skill, it’s been 4 years and I’m getting there but he’s improving a lot too
Damn this sounds like an anime plot
@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse he learnt to fadc last month… help
@@josesoto1219 Did you end up beating him
@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse sounds like the kind of guy you throw you into a volcano
"Winning and losing are all on you."
Moba players- "Okay, I'm waiting for the punchline."
Well I mean bro mid is 0/13 running it down mid and calling everyone the N word I don't think that's my fault. Is it?
@@garretwoeller7669 decoy strats
One of the reason I quit Moba hahahaha
I mean we still can carry them, but really? I have to deal with that kind of person in my 20-40ish minute games. Nahhh I'm good.
this is why fighting games are objectively better
That's the reason I quit every single team game, now I play only starcraft, tekken and single player stuff. Nobody to blame and nobody else to babysit
One of the things I love about these videos is how the concepts can apply not just to fighting games, but to almost any challenging thing in life!
I think fighting games share this with sports, art and many other things. Ultimately to excel at something you have to grow as a human, and by mastering that pursuit you in turn grow as a person!
Well, fg have some of the most important things of life: is 1v1, and you need patience and knowledge to make progress.
@@monkakonga4305 FGs have made me miss martial arts a lot, the one on one dance of pressure is great fun ahah
This is also how I feel about learning chess.
@@riffz6065 love your pfp
4:43 "Performing in front of other people & seeing their approval can be a very powerful source of validation, & that validation is often what drives people to get better" as someone who didn't get much attention as a kid, this is so true!
I think it's much more rhythm than math. There's a little "speed geometry" but it feels so removed from math that it doesn't sit well in my mind. FGs feel much more like a dance than doing math
Your take on the nature of Fighting Games is part of why they are so great! A good chunk of the Psychology of Fighting Games is finding flaws in how your opponent internalizes the game. I mean to say, someone who conceptualizes the game as Geometry vs Dance vs Songwriting would all play differently. This diversity means that we have to learn how to fight these other styles by re-defining and wrapping them in our own conceptualization (understanding geometry as a type of dance.) Isn't that great?
well, rythm is also math
Smash is more speed geometry than most games. Applying directional influence alone is geometrical brain exercise every time you get hit.
that’s exactly what real fighters say about fighting. it’s all just a dance.
@@logandunlap9156 well, fighting being like dance and fighting being like math aren't contradictory
I'll never forget my first tournament...making it to finals, and the hype when we picked Dio vs Jotaro for finals, and the sheer energy when I got my opponent with time stop into road roller and the whole crowd screaming "Road-ah rollah daaaaaaa!" And it was just so magical.
I find that fighting games really allow you to express yourself, especially when you get into the mindgames and adaptation.
this, but not in SFV sadly whatever that mess is.
"When I was a kid, nearly everyone around me made me feel like video games were a waste of time...
Fighting games taught me that if I think something is cool, worrying what others think is the REAL waste of time!"
One of my favorite quotes and something I'm definitely stealing!
God damn Core A was in the room during moment 37. I haven’t been as jealous as I am right now 😭
It was Patrick Miller, not Core A (Gerald) himself
Core-A with another top-notch quality video, sharing the thoughts of thousands, perhaps millions, of why they play Fighting Games.
Time stamps for each section below.
0:38 - 2:36: Learning to do hard stuff is cool as hell.
2:37 - 2:57: Abstract Problem Solving.
3:00 - 4:28: Winning and losing is all on you.
4:29 - 6:56: You are a performer.
6:57 - 8:21: Everybody is the hero of their own story.
Remainder being subscribing, Patreoning, Twitch supporting, and an ad for The Ridge Wallet.
SNK parries or Geese parries are the Epitome of why I love fighting mind games.
May I suggest ..?
ANJI MITO
Tokido's words brought tears to everyone's eyes
I came faster than DSP making up excuses for every hit he takes in fighting games.
I came faster than DSP*
@@lorenzobarchiesi2058 OH THE CAMERA'S ON? I can't beat it. I can't.
@@Freefork Yet he did it anyways
@@lorenzobarchiesi2058 You know he can beat it. Just ask his controllers.
@@Freefork those poor little things
6:58
We still miss you, Chadwick.
8:06 They really had a clip of smug wiggity washing flux with the greatest of ease
Hey Asuri
I hate that so little of this is part of the experience for some fighting games, may it be not enough people playing it (in your region) so you cant visit locals or horrible balance and game design just to realize that you spend thousands of hours to a game you thought would get better after you get good at it. Regardless, great video.
I love fighting games because there’s always someone better. You are always being pushed by others and you’re always learning from those experiences. The excitement of the challenge is the best thing ever
When in doubt...SHORYUKEN !!!
That's what I do to my textbook when I can't solve a math problem
JUMPING MEDIUM KICK
wake up DP baby!
if only worked IRL ..... not in that sense but I mean to all life things
@@M4TTYN ex dp it then!
That's how you get block punished like a scrub.
This video makes so much sense I wish other people can learn from this and try to do better next time
easier said than done.
you try telling a new player a "simple" thing of x FG ....
and not all clinge to x genre and not all ready to get bodied (it's good for you btw)
Hope this video gives you some inspiration when you feel these games are kicking your ass. Thanks to Patrick Miller for the essay and Evil Bill for the video. Also, thanks to Ridge Wallet for being back to sponsor another video. If you want 10% off a wallet, go to ridge.com/COREAGAMING. Enjoy the vid!
only 2 likes damn
Ty for the video Pat, Core A always putting out good stuff, you might want to invest in a pop filter or do an audio edit pass/ change some settings in future.
0:08 1:00 1:02 1:04 1:26 2:00 3:53 4:24 4:54 5:14 5:30 6:20 7:04
The wet mouth noises at 1:00 made me quit, no video on this planet is worth listening to that
Loved this, keeps me thinking about how the first thing I'm doing when its safe to gather in groups again, is find a local scene for a game and get into it, I've always loved the community you get when you get into a game, or the fgc in general!
"... And the best part is, no one is getting hurt!"
I immediately thought of "STEVE MY ARM"
"If you feel like you're wasting your time cause you cant get any better, try playing fighting games"
But what if I'm trying to get good at fighting games but it feels useless? Haha...
The truth is if you do try and fail, it feels terrible but in FACT you are getting better. You just need someone from the outside to tell you that fact cuz we often lose sight of objectivity when immersing ourselves in something.
So find friends who support you. you see very few shonen heroes can become successful all by themselves. Naruto has his allies, Luffy has the straw hats, etc.
@@johnnyjustice Finding friends to play with is even harder than improving lol
Good to see another Core-A vid.
yo whats up dont ever
Finished it. Good stuff.
No joke if playing fighters online taught me anything its being ok with being bad at something...actually pretty damn valuable
Interesting approach
In the Trial mode of KOF 13, Vice was the character that I mastered. I did all 10 of her trails. It took about a month. Countless hours put into inputs. I almost cried when I saw "COMPLETE" on the final trial. It felt fantastic.
Yeah in my local Smash scene, I would generally play Zelda in Smash 4, and she was considered low-tier, but I would still win with her. when I would walk in to the venue, I would hear, "oh, it's that Zelda player," and it would make me feel so good and gave me confidence.
now my daughter watches me play Street Fighter and she loves it, so that's all that really matters to me is that she can see me play.
For me, it was my Smash 4 PAC-man at my college. I played every chance I got. I enjoyed using tricks and beating people in silly ways.
One day, a newcomer starts playing as often as I do. This Andy guy, he was really good and often beat the pants off of me.
I hated fighting him, but whenever I told him I wasn’t in the mood to play, he begged me to fight him because I was the best Pac-man he ever fought. He said I was...unique. I’m told I’m fun to play against and people are shocked how good I am at perfect parries [I thank 3rd strike for that.]
It’s really nice to know a player who was more skilled than I was thought I was good. It’s nice to be validated just by being really fun and interesting, and I had the pleasure of playing against some interesting people. Growing up with little friends to compete with, it meant a lot to me.
@@Aflay1 haha I respect that. my boy iFox in Texas told me I'm impossible to tag with Snake C4, and I'm like, "I've only been playing Daisy for like 2 days now," and he was like "YOOOOO THIS IS YOUR MAIN." Felt good because he was miles ahead of me, and I tricked him into thinking I was playing her longer lol. But that's the beauty if you have a strong scene. Even the "weakest link" can manage to hold it together at times.
Same with SF4 when I started playing here and just hearing other more veteran players saying I had good reads and mix-ups with my Makoto. I almost teared up lol
I wonder why yt didn't recommend this. Hitting the bell from now on, I didn't even realize a new vid was out.
Really wasn't expecting to see people explaining what power bottoms are in this video
This video will hold a special place in my heart because when my mom was terminally sick with cancer monthes ago, I was able to show her this and a documentary and I was able to get her to understand why I’ve loved fighting games for all these years
"When your playing a fighting game it feels like your having a great conversation without saying a single word" that sums up how my matches with my homies go its so accurate.
This was a 10 minute video to show y'all you can side step right Kunimistu's 1,1,2
Super Smash Bros Brawl was the reason why I love video games.
I do love this kind of videos because they offer me a window into the mind of people who dedicate to this sort of thing. Although it's rare that any of them makes me take on the hobby itself, It's amazing to see what kind of awesome people inhabit the community. Thanks as always for making these
Man, this is gonna inflate the egos of a lot of people
We've gotta feel pride in what we enjoy. It's been so long since the last IRL tournament, it's like a light in my life has been off. If a video like this can make me remember that feeling for a moment, it's worth it.
@@calvino6949 ngl it does come off as a bit pretentious with the whole "fighting games are math and chess" thing, but I don't think the video is meant to be that serious anyway
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Glad someone called it out
How is Punk so good though?
@@Snow1482 There are certainly similarities to speed chess, or dance.
But it makes me consider more why we put math and chess on such a high pedestal in the first place. All skill can be commendable after all.
This channel is my absolute favorite when it comes to talking about video games. Every video has an amazing level of wit, polish and general feel-good energy.
Patrick: Starts talking about the mathematical way to play fighting games
Me: I just wanna beat my girlfriends ass lmao
I love fighting games, but I do not have any faith in me getting as good as I want to be or even remotely close to it no matter how much time and effort I spend on it. But I will not give up.
I never think in this way like I'm the protagonist of my history when I playing fighting games 😮 suddenly I so hyped thank you so much 😭
"Love your life, be good to one another, and play fighting games."
I think "winning and losing is all on you" is kind of a hard sell and what often becomes off-putting about the genre to outsiders. And I don't really think it ever is anyway, because the community is what makes this so unique from other games and having those people to practice with or cheer you on at locals or in tournaments is what makes things all the more gratifying and affirming.
Because landing a gorgeous Bodega combo with Kyo makes you feel alive
0:43 (Esaka Forever starts kicking) "Oh yeah! That's the stuff! That's the pepper!"
Honestly, its the people that keep me coming back to the scene. Even if you're someone who "retires" from competing, more often than not, you're gonna still attend events/keep up-to-date on that game. Maybe you won't enter a bracket,, but maybe you'll do some crew battles, or money matches, or even play some casual matches. Its sick and its great to know that most people who may stop competing in a game, can still sit down and play with others, as if they had never left the scene.
That, and the storylines for players are always really fun to watch unfold.
You guys have introduced me to alot of cool fighting game players and completely convinced me to get good at any fighting game I come across, and regardless, have pretty good informational and persuasive videos I could binge for a solid few hours (before my brain runs out of steam trying to understand what netcode really is or why frame data is important). Your channel is amazing!
They’re worth it because they let me do SPDs and play as Iron Tager
its super cool that fighting games bring pretty much the same mental strenght and conditioning as actual fiighting training. But they differ on how they will destroy your body
4:35 Why do I get anxiety when I do that? You know performance anxiety, even trying to do a single thing infront of a single person. I mean of course, I'm not good at that skill, but I do worse when I feel like someone is watching over my shoulder, instead of ignoring them, I get nervous and do worse. But ofc it's different when it comes to video games, because I'm lost but still it does the opposite affect for me, sometimes.
Something kinda abstract that playing fighting games taught me is the difference between courage and carelessness. If you run in and mash you get punished, but hanging back too afraid to approach also gets you nowhere. My play got a lot better when I told myself I wasn’t afraid of my opponent, and I think that’s something good for my life.
Could you do a Christmas Q&A
Just going over how you pick vid ideas, some technical things, any issue with copyright etc?
This is the reason i love fighting games so much. The sick plays, the characters that play the characters, the outplays the upsets the new guys the low tier characters that are put to work. Its why im so sad that the fighting game community is hurting from COVID-19
Every time i see one of your videos you put me in the corner of my bed imagine what feels do some things like combos or readings, sadly i havw no FG on my possession, but still love your videos 💖
I'm not gonna lie, I miss Gerald these days, but Patrick, seriously, I'm so happy to have you here making videos for Core-A. I love your input on fighting game concepts and your particular brand of humor. Hope to see and hear more of you on this channel.
Other than ignorance, I cannot imagine why people compare fighting games to chess instead of go. In chess, a bishop is always a bishop; in go, a stone is defined by the stones which precede it-you know, like a combo or an antiair.
Well familiarity is another reason, everyone knows chess, but few pepole know the ruleset of go. If I am explaining which games I play there is no value in explaing that with games others are unfamiliar with. This is the reason why I tell other Gamers I play games like Street Fighter and Tekken, even though the airdashers I play are quite different.
At chess even though a bishop is always a bishop, a bishop's strength also depends on its position and the position of other pieces.
Fighting games are comparable to chess. At fighting games, there are defensive or aggressive style characters. Same case with chess. At fighting games, it has counter attack, chess also has counter attack.
*"Why study math formulas when I can memorize cool framed perfect combos."*
I never thought fighting games could be used as tools to develop soft skills in the real world
I'd say pretty much any game teaches you skills that translate to real life :)
I've been a gamer pretty much all my life and I have learned a lot of things from games, even socially ^^
Play fighting games with audience is one of the most exciting stuff I ever do. Greetings from Brazil.
im not so much into fighting games but, i get the feeling... i practice Bjj and its basically the "ultimate test" that everyone should experience. im a dark souls player, is not a "complex combat" game but all this stuff apllies in pvp.
My favorite part of fighting games is how you become your character. It´s like a fusion of both emerges from that screen, you can tell who´s playing the character just looking to the screen. This "magic" only occurs on fighting games. Maybe is because hours of grinding, i don´t know. But it´s breathtaking.
Leon Massey and Core-A Gaming are one of the best FGC youtubers i need for a deep dive on the fighting game genre including the community.
Leon needs so much more love. He's criminally unknown.
Fighting games are super fun, even as a FPS main. In FPS, you can still succeed when not thinking, just running and gunning (commonly called “running around like a monkey”) while in Fighting games you have to HAVE to think which introduces mind games which are super thrilling.
Amazing video per usual. ONLY complaint is not leaving in the crowd cheering after Tokido's famous line lol
Always gotta come visit a Core-A video. This is a great encapsulation of fighting games in general.
The comment that really stuck with me is that a lot of people don't realize they like speed math, but only when you can do something with it. So many people talk about frames, plus or minus, etc. that probably don't even care for math in its educational setting. Because ultimately they probably won't use calculus unless they can use it in a field like statistics or physics.
I think what often causes “hard reads” to feel annoying, for me, anyway, is that not a lot of games have outside conditions that affect what your opponent wants to do. If you’re knocked down, you can be thrown, attacked, or some other option upon getup, and you have no idea which. You can take a wild guess based off what your opponent tends to do, but if they’re even half-decent at generating random options, you’re gonna have a rough time trying to do that. And since their ONLY goal is to be unpredictable, given that a lot of the characters who’re going to put you in this situation are going to get similar rewards from each option, there’s no evaluation on both sides determining risk, reward, and unpredictability all at once. It’s almost exclusively about winning the micro interactions then and there, rather than the macro gameplan that strategy games focus on. Reads have their place, certainly, but I’ve always felt that they emphasize player choice to an unhealthy degree, offering little I know the way of consideration for outside, uncontrollable circumstances.
Babe wake up new Core-A vid
6:57 I miss you Chadwick! You where such an amazing person, please rest easy
I think it's really interesting how differently things are percieved. I love the video, and will defend fighting games being worth it, but some points presented are pretty much exactly opposite to my experience.
In point 1, I dislike that the execution is so hard in Fighting games, because i specifically do not enjoy learning the hard execution as a preamble to getting to the pvp section of the game.
In Reason 2, it feels weird to say that over time, the work put in gets rewarded and you get to feel that you are good at things, because playing fighting games made me question whether i'll ever be good at something. Because as i keep doing it, i keep being bad. I used to think i was good at things, fighting games has taught me im not, and that some skills i just can not learn.
PS: That also means the Validation point never happened for me, but i get that point because i know it from other things than fighting games.
The emotions in these videos. I love these clips and you speak in a way that is uplifting.
2:40 Empathy huh..
*Flashbacks of my opponents rage quitting, teabagging, and taunting..
Hmm, I don't know about that..
Haha so true I was playing dbz fighterz for less than a week before I got my first salty personal message. Less than a day for the first rage quit and man the toxic behavior u run into in other fighting games is just ridiculous. Wish they'd make a video about that.
There's literally a video on this channel about the mentality of teabagging and taunting
@@leeadirn thats more directed at professional players not casual online matches. A video on this subject would be more focused on the general toxicity you encounter online. This would have to entail the insane amounts of racism you find on places like fightcade, the countless toxic threads on reddit that are just echo chambers for assholes, the messages you will receive from both gloating or salty players, the fact that if you play fighting games you probably have a list of people you've had to block. And just the general archetypes of toxic people you run into online.
I love when Im playing Tekken 7 and my 5 year old is cheering me on, roasting my opponent on their customizations or losing,, quoting Negan as i smack people around with a bat, hell he even points some things out about my opponents play style some times. When he is cheering me on i legit do so much better. I can definitely see how having an entire crowd on your side hyping you up can improve your game play.
wholesome
1:00 is that his tongue saliva action i hear
IT'S SO DISTRACTING
😂😂😂
Now we all hear it.
Lmao I was just gonna comment the same
I hate you, I can't stop hearing it now
Thank u for the motivational speech in the middle of the vid i actually needed it
You want to know why I gave up fighting games? The community. Never in my life has an online community been so disrespectful. Yes COD is equally if not worse, difference is I can mute them. Every fighting game I have played their is no mute option. Fought a guy who was blasting the sound from the game into his mic. Had to mute my whole TV system.
I will never be good at fighting games because I haven't really improved over a few decades of practice, but I will always love them anyway. I'm glad so many people around the world appreciate this type of entertainment. There was a period in the early 2000s (before SF IV) that the genre seemed in decline but it sure bounced back strong and the market is supporting a large number of fighting titles right now so I'm happy.
What have fighting games ever done for me?
You're the only one that can answer that
If it's anything more than occupied free time that could have been better spent elsewhere, then you need to take a long hard look at your life.
Tbh the best thing from smash and the fgc was teaching me to do the fgc nod. Yesterday I got a 70% on an exam and I just did the fgc nod.
So fighting games are math? Oh boy lemme show this to my teacher and get my fighting games ready 👍
The last point is the greatest truth. Even if Tekken's S3 and S4 were really underwhelming on the balance side of things, the offline events I did in S3 were some of my greatest moments in gaming.
🤣 That Pooky clip where he smokin third strike like it's BASS
I've never been dedicated enough to be good at fighting games (plus, grew up in a small town with no arcade scene and crappy internet), but I still love the idea of fighting games. At 34, I enjoy watching pros play more than I've ever enjoyed pulling off a crazy combo vs the CPU (because I had no one else to play with).
I just can't agree with any statement that goes like "game xy will teach you something useful in real life".
Someone in my formula student (students designing and building race cars) team once told me:
" I cant picture you playing fighting games, you do everything so slowly"
So no dexterity carried over. Same with math and especially empathy.
And they didn't really boost my will to speak publicly either.
I made a lot of friends thanks to a local fighting game scene tho.
And they are fun.
Especially with your homies spectating.
Anything beyond that seems unrealistic to me.
That’s start about math is the same for music, it’s LITERALLY using your ears to calculate pleasing sounds, which are ratios between wavelengths. Your ears are doing multiplication and division to produce the next sound
Pardon me while I forward this video to three or four dozen of my closest friends.
I started with Street fighter 4 at 6yrs. And it was so worth it. That one game opened up the whole world of fighting games to me.
NOTIFICATION SQUAD! love your vids dude, you expand the fighting game scene with each video!!!
Hi Score Girl is the anime adaptation of this video for those interested.
Except...
(Spoilers)
It still fails. Poor kid tried his best to git gud to confess to her and still lost in the tourney finals, Oono went to the US, and the other love choice is the filthy Rugal picker.
“ROLLBACK NETCOOOOODE!”
Whoever chose and inserted the stock videos should be rewarded greatly.
Lol i turned on captions and it said “taquito” 😂
The whole trickster picture makes fighting games serious fun.
These days i find that the reward of being good at a fighting game is not worth the time or effort it takes to get to that point.
Agreed. Just go learn an actual martial art. You get more out of it than learning to press buttons at the right time.
@@SourRobo8364 Like good exercise for one thing. And an actual well deserved sense of accomplishment and a massive boost in self esteem as well.
@@redmage8719 Exactly. Fighting games make me feel like a complete failure. Only this genre does it.
@@SourRobo8364 Fighting games do the same thing to me as well in addition to stressing me to the point where i can barely keep my temper under control even when i win. Holding down an actual job and staying in good physical and mental health is much more important to me than being good at a fighting game could ever be.
@Angela Evans A lot of people who play fighting games will pretend to be your friend but once you stop playing fighting games, they will likely ghost you. I know this because it has happened to me once. Fighting game free is the way to be in my book.