I've been playing classical guitar for over 10 years and I'm so happy that people draw similarities between it and fighting games because practicing combos and playing etudes truly have the same therapeutic effect.
"Make continued growth your goal rather than winning" The same is true of real martial arts and I've made huge progress since fully understanding this concept. I like to implement what I call "objective based sparring". Winning in a sparring match becomes a secondary objective and focusing on a particular skill I want to work on such as maintaining solid defence, putting pressure on my opponent or landing a technique I'm weak at becomes the primary goal.
Same here martial arts have made me understand gaming and more importantly life differently, wisdom and knowledge is the key more then the victory, the “win” means absolutely nothing if you don’t understand why your opponent loss, or more importantly you didn’t understand what your opponent was doing or WHY they was doing what they was doing. Don’t get caught up on the competitiveness but focus on what do I need to work and improve on, that’s why you should ALWAYS train with a person that has more wisdom and knowledge then you because those are the people that’s going to help you understand EVERYTHING. Keep it humble
By doing so you wont need to think of how to do the different things an other character does but only think about how you can deal with this matchup and its set of moves making you unconsciously learning the match up and at the same time knowing the weakness and strengths of your own character and the enemies.
what has made me get better at fighting games? just the will to play with my friends and do cool things. simple reasons. I've only started playing fighting games 2-3 years ago and it just because my friend put me on Maximilian and watching people compete one on one was so different than my fps mindset. seeing my friend enjoy these games and the reactions of joy or saltiness in the end of a match made me interested. I usually play in 32 player servers and this idea of one on one was other worldly to me. I enjoy getting better, trying to keep up, losing, winning, all these emotions I get from fighting games have really changed my life. I know I've rambled, anyone who actually read this, thanks.
I modeled my fighting game playstyle around a specific Street Fighter Third Strike quote from Ryu. "A good fighter is constantly learning, during that fight, you taught me how to defeat you." It stuck with me for so long, because I remember thinking about it over and over, and when I figured it out, the breakthrough was amazing. If you pay enough attention in a match, you can see what your opponent is doing, but if you do it right, you can also pay attention to what they're *not* doing. The flaws can become more apparent and you then learn what to exploit. The quote taught me to learn from whom I play and if possible, incorporate it into my own style.
I've just started to play SFV, and I'm pretty bad, but watching videos of people pulling crazy combos with the character I use always motivates me to play again
we can train if you want to, I know some combos with nash and a bit of theory, but I have no idea what is safe, how to punish or how to play against specific characters D: my ID is 'Albireon'
Core-A Gaming Do you recommend any other book that helps to improve in FGC? And may I please have the links or the names of the websites where you got more info about this topic. Btw I really like your videos.
Genecalypse hi! I would recommend the Inner Game of Tennis. It's the pioneer book of sports psychology and can be easily applied to Fighting Games, as the book dwelves into the 2 1on1 fights going on in any 1vs1 competition: the actual playerA vs playerB, but also the fight each player has within themselves. I play melee but this could easily apply to all FGC games. It gives good tips on how to fight bad habits and building a right mindset free of judgement in order to improve
you touched on it a little bit and its really answering that question "what makes you want to play?" in other words the motivation. And that becomes so different for so many people but it ultimately leads to the same path of practice. One of the best aspects i love about Esports is you can look at Pro players and just think "I can't do that" but you get the benefit of trying it yourself immediately. I mean a cool play in Football requires a situation pending on 21 other people but games are something we get to try for ourselves straight away and that makes the cycle for motivation way faster than mastering traditional sport.
You don’t really loose anything when you loose in fighting games; there are only positive outcomes. You either loose the match/interaction and gain understanding of what doesn’t work and a drive to get better, or win and find out what can work and gain the confidence to keep on improving.
That's not true at all. Getting juggled constantly just kills the fun for me, also having to play against people who've had months or years of experience makes for a one sided affair. The pay off isnt even that great either. As someone so plays an instrument I find it infinitely more satisfying
For real. Personally, I see every loss I have in a fighting game as a learning experience. Something that was my fault but something I should work to improve. I think having a mindset like this can help keep your ego low and in check. 1 win due to 10 losses is better than 1 loss exacerbated in your head because of a streak of 10 wins imo (I hope that makes sense).
the problem (for me atleast) is not figuring out what your doing wrong, its really just finding the time and effort to actually practice different inputs, combos, techs, etc for 1000 hours once you figure out how difficult, muscle-memory reliant, and required they are.
beautiful. I always get excited for your videos. This stuff applies to life as well and goes on a much deeper level than just fighting games. I wish I could find that book in hardcover format though lol.
My psychology mentor showed me this video when it went out. I was maybe 15 yo and now I’m 23 and still watch cause sometimes, you have to get back to the basics. Thanks for this amazing analysis. You made really interesting metaphors and parallels 🤘🏾🌌🙏🏾
your videos are brilliant. I feel they are sometimes relevant to life beyond fighting games. they're philosophical and inspiring at times. thanks again for these times.
One thing that really helped me get farther in the game I used to play (I moved from Smash 4 to Melee) was always thinking from the perspective of my opponent and then trying to adjust your play as a result of what they're punishing and not. I think its getting super difficult now with melee because there's always so much going on and it gets really overwhelming to think that way, but it really helps in terms of understanding the sort of flow the game you're playing has and how certain characters work. Doing dittos against someone with your main is incredibly helpful with this because when you think that way, you're understanding the punishes (From the perspective of the opponent), and the approaches (From your perspective). Neutral is something that can't be taught really, at least in Melee, because there are always so many options at a given time that everybody's neutral has a certain style and yours develops with experience and knowledge.
One day in 2009, I played about 40 games of King of Fighters XII. I loved KOF but I wasn't good at the game. Each loss I got was a lesson in how to actually PLAY the game. It became fun when I got closer and closer to winning. The more I played, the more things click. I eventually got the win! I was more impressed with how much better I was getting as opposed to just trying to get that W. Wins and losses mean nothing in video games. It isn't the end of the world if you lose. Yeah it can be frustrating as hell but if it gets to the point where you're a butthole because of the loss, you gotta step away. Edit: Damn, I didn't realize I got so many likes 4 years later!
"Wins and losses mean nothing in video games. It isn't the end of the world if you lose." Want to get into Elite Smash in Smash Ultimate and lose 5 times in a row to Fire Emblem meta-pickers? GUESS WHAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING INTO NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY? YOUR GOAL OF GETTING IN IS GONE. FINITO. FINISHED! Wins and losses mean a tiny bit if you had some kind of aspiration in ranked, in this case.
Alastorchaos Them being “meta pickers” doesn’t change the fact that you still lost. Stop blaming the characters and blame yourself for not knowing how to deal with their options.
For me it was finding a Fighting Game I WANTED to get better at. For me I absolutely despised fighting games until my friend showed me Tekken 7. Now of course I was bad at first but the pure want to get better helped me experiment and prevail.
You have honestly changed my life by your uploads. I have always loved the fighting game scene and as a college student I have found my passion as a hobby. This game is far more deeper than many think even my psychology teacher wants to team up and create something to understand it. You have inspired me to go out and buy what I need to start what you have started. In other ways you are some what a Daigo lol a person who I see as a reference of where I want my content to go. I do not want to just upload replays but I want to understand more and get into the minds of these pros. Thank you so much and much love from Houston TX!
The thing that let me take it to the next level was learning lose gracefully. Its hard. Especially when hungry or tired. Actually id say im still learning how to lose. But being able to keep it together and appreciate why I loss helped a lot. Its also useful because a great way to get better is to fight people better than you, which of course incites loss.
I believe in keeping things methodical is what made me improve. I've gotten better after playing GO, or Core-A Gaming as they call it in Korea *Baduk*. This is because I've learned to break things down into options by analyzing my opponents moves, and what they want from me. The basics; however, most of my Smash *4* skill level came from Brawl, which came from taking things from Top players and applying it and understanding why it works. However, I was only stuck at the *high level* inconsistent player, the person who can compete with top level players like :Marss, Pugwest, Koolaid, and Craftis, yet lose to a mid high level local player. Therefore, I recently started breaking down the game to options and treating it like a *GAME*... avoid this move, this move etc...of course with incorporating reads and such. I just want to say Thank you Core A-Gaming for the videos and this one in particular, because now I feel like I'll be top 10 ranked in my region again if I just keep playing to improve and discover myself, as well as playing simple games like sweep and throw in order to solidify my gameplay.
Taziod :/ I've also entered Brawl, Soul Calibur 5, Street fighter 4, Dead or Alive 3, and 5 tournaments as well as Tekken placing top 4 in all of them at the time I started. I just prefer to focus on one game for now.
This is why I like tutoring my friends at games, im learning rookie tactics and comparing them to pro plays, seeing how similar they are, and learning from it; whilst still showing them how to overcome some harder tactics. It really shows that you can learn from everyone, and everyone's still a rookie in some areas.
You inadvertently have created an extremely well put together guide to life while making a comprehensive guide to gaming which I appreciate and applaud at the same time...I can only imagine the time and effort put into these witty and informative vids. Thanks for your contribution G...I Wish you much success bro. peace
This series helped me get better at PvP videogames, period, and lately I've been applying it to my work as well, so... Yeah, thanks a lot for all the analyses, they've helped me a ton :D
Odd enough my inspiration has been crossover FG players who has been successful at tapping knowledge and implementing it in multiple games do well. It really puts things in perspective of what you can learn to get better as a player. Players such as Kazunoko, GO1 and such. You wonder how they can play all these different fighting games so well but it just comes to having that passion and fun to play the game enough to learn and compete. Its also helped me in bouncing back and forth to SFV as I don't have any real motivation to be competitive with it but just enough to learn the game in general.
Just keep playing and add a tiny stone to your expierence, strategy, knowledge each day. Sometimes it may come after a very long session but it's not less/more important than others. Keep playing, develop and everything will be fine.
Your videos are amazing. Well presented, informational, on point research, and as a testament of it all the concepts in fighting games are relatable to other facets in life that even the casual fighting game fan can take something away from it all. One of my favorite analysis channels man keep it up!
80 - 90% of people in any given field/activity is usually stuck there. The biggest hurdle is time and energy, in most cases. Most have jobs or school that interferes with training.
Not a fighting game player, but have been building a portfolio in card games. I've been in the competency stage for a bit, so this video gave me a bit of hope. Thank you.
If I'm honest with you, the thing that has helped me the most to get better at fighting games, are your videos. If UA-cam hadn't recommended me this channel, I would've probably given up on fighting games a long time ago. Keep up the amazing work!
Here are the three secrets to getting good at fighters: 1: Dedicate a lot of time to execution and combos(This isn't that hard if you main only one character) 2: Predict what your opponent is going to do in every situation, and learn to adapt. 3: Play a very wide range of people that use different characters in different ways.
Near the end you mentioned that sort of bafflement. As a kid I remember walking by an arcade at the boardwalk and saw two teenagers playing MvC2, and even though I got to watch for like 15 seconds, it was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. I was pretty much enamored with fighting games after that. If an older me went back and told my younger self "one day you too will be doing chain AHVB's and sentinel refly combos", I wouldn't have known what to say.
How to get better at fighting games: Step 1. Mash DP on wake up Step 2. Mash DP on wake up Step 3. Mash DP on wake up. Remember these steps and you'll reach diamond rank online in no time.
Had to stop playing Ken just to get used to not doing it. Unless I have trigger. Then I can do it, cancel it, and oh looky here 300 dmg into super and you're dead because Ken.
I am just starting out on fighting games(SF5) and it is very frustrating. Because this is my first fighting game ever I am having problems with doing a hadouken reliably and making 4 chain combos. Also I tried using the D-pad and it is impossible for me. The analog stick is better but it is still hard
Don't give up on the genre entirely if you somewhat enjoy it. I started with Killer Instinct on GameBoy when I was 4 (Dad's mistake for buying it, haha), and I now enjoy Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Super Smash Bros. (Melee and 4, although not as much lately), and a few others at the "ripe" age of 24. If SFV is too much right now, there's nothing wrong with picking up an older title (or even a different series) if you want to progressively get better at the genre.
Don't worry about d-pad or analog stick if anyone's telling you one is better. My friend is a beast with stick on pad and it just comes down to practicing until it's muscle memory. Ultimately it's if you're having fun playing. If it's not fun or not getting any funner, fighting games might not be for you. Just have fun. :)
if combos are hard. don't do them. go to the lab then just do the hodo until you can do it 5 times in a row on each side yes will be boring and frustrating but once that is accomplished you will fell good about your self. also only do it for 15 minutes take a 15 break then do it again.
which one of those games would u recommend to start with besides SFV?, I'm still learning SFV. but looking for another game to pick up for more understanding of the genre like u said, and also for more fun/variety of course.
SFV is a great starting point for gaining understanding of what a fighting game encompasses and what's required to learn. Anti-airs, footsies, basic specials and combos that aren't 12 minutes long. I suggest looking up some beginner guides, (I'm on mobile, otherwise I'd help link some) and starting with Ryu. Start with buttons, what can you use light punch for? What uses does crouching heavy punch have? Then move to specials and continue from there. But to answer the question of another game to start with, any street fighter that isn't 4, the soul calibur games if you can look at them analytically, Mortal Kombat 9 or X... Depends on what you'll find fun really.
Yo man, just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. Your videos not only help me understand complex topics and ideas in fighters, but also push me to become a better fighter. I always look forward to watching your videos.
You got me into fighting games when I wanted to get it you brought me back in when I couldn’t get a fire ball off and a Z for my life you helped now I can do fire balls and sometimes miss I can bearly do z but I’ve gotten better thank you so much im on floor 4 in guilty gear and have been fighting floor 10s in open park and some times win 1 round 😊
Man! you keep doing great videos! love the dunning Kruger reference, one of my favorite" cognitive bias. You could do a video on netcode online vs offline practice etc..
Usf4 zangief losses taught me how not to go all crazy 360 motion. This also taught me control and footsie. Control spacing and to inch closer. Excellent video. Learn, think, evolve.
While this doesn't apply to fighting games, it does to Mobas, at least for me. I realized somewhere in there that I don't actually find the super competitive games "Fun", instead that they are more of an experiment in expertise. While I may laugh or enjoy a specific event, overall the game is more rewarding through personal growth, rather then in its victory and loss. A loss where you learned the exact limits of a character was so much more valuable then a stomping victory. This sort of mindset sort of ostracized me from my friends in regards to the game, but kept me going at it. I don't actually know what motivates me to get better, but simply that I look at the game and say "I want to", and so I do. It gives me a chance to be a leader, a flag-bearer, someone who can rally the troops and pull to victory, regardless of circumstance. The pressure and possibility of failing my team, combined with that drive for victory is a self fueling machine that rolls its way up any hill and through any mountain too high to scale. I found pro play to be boring to watch. I'd rather just be there, playing myself, getting blown up or being victorious, which obviously hurts my growth a bit, as I have to make other people's mistakes to really learn them, rather then just borrowing from the pros, but there's something so satisfying about seeing something being done, looking at *why*, then carrying it out yourself and watching the logic click. I don't think the want to Win is what keeps me, and others that share this mindset going, its instead the want to compete. You're not looking for the carrot, you want to grab the stick and beat the guy next to you with it. Hope this held some insight.
Great videos, bro. Always look forward to them as I learn a lot. Keep it up. To Everyone Else: I been a fan of FG's forever but new to actually playing them. Always thought it was too daunting a task. Looking for people to have consistent matches and help me learn. Picked up SfV and I'm currently silver. Hit me up. Trying to get better.
Your videos are so fucking good. I really wish more people knew about this channel, it's hard to make new quality content with without seeing a huge change in subs. Keep up the good work, and know you have avid fans!
Honestly, great video. I think that your videos are not only great at helping with fighting games but also helping in life. I've taken away a lot of life lessons from your videos and I just wanted to say thanks. It would be awesome if you replied
What actually motivated me to go back and play fighting games were your videos man, they provide a deep analysis (wich I enjoy thoroughly) of a subject I've always been deeply interested. Sadly, the FGC in my country is nonexistent so I'll be stuck with playing online for the next few years.
I just wanted to look cool when I fought. instead of using single kicks and punches I wanted to impress my friends with flashy combos, so I decided to get better and practice.
After having consistently played a fighting game for almost a year now, this video really resonated with me. Especially the part about small discovery's and improvements and what Infiltration said about thinking outside the box.
I love this channel so much! Glad I stumbled upon sooner than later. Honestly, I have been playing Melee for about two years now and what kept me going was my friends, my love for the game, and the constant drive to get better piece by piece. Now, it’s awesome and I am learning more and more tech that comes easy to me
i've always wanted to get into street fighter. i've always thought it looked really fun and could definitely fit alongside smash brothers for the fighting games i play. just need to get my hands on a fight stick, but jeez they can be pretty expensive.
Yeah I learned stick and am pretty good with it but nowhere near as good as I am on pad. Just don't feel same sense of control of movement on stick because I've played on pad entire life. Idk how long I'd have to play on stick to feel 100% comfortable. It's been 5 months and I still prefer pad.
theDiReW0lf probably the most difficult thing for me to adjust to on stick is how differently I seem to control movement and special moves depending on what side I'm facing. For whatever reason when I'm facing right, things are easier to execute then when I'm facing left. I'm not really sure how to get that to change. Most of the time I can still execute everything with the same precision, but every now and again I'll find a move or motion that I find tricky when facing left. Also, the advantages of playing on a stick vary from game to game. On SFIV I felt stick was almost necessary, on SFV it's much less critical. On a game like MKX it's practically no advantage what so ever. But as with anything else, practice makes perfect. My advice would be to never use pad again. Force yourself to use stick all the time, you'll eventually make the adjustment, and you'll find advantages in using it.
Yeah I made a habit of always being on the right side in training mode. Thing is I have zero problems execution-wise with stick. I can do all my combos/setups/mixups just fine. It just still doesn't feel as natural as pad movement-wise. I played stick exclusively for a few months but eventually caved in. I'll give it another go because even though I feel more comfortable on pad, there's a lot of things that are easier to do on stick and it definitely is more benefiting to play on.
I want to take a few moments to say that your videos are just really, but really well done, they are interesting, even out of the competitive gaming situation, well grounded, and great diversity to explain without making too much use of technicalities, your work is just impeccable, i hope i can get more videos from this channel, and more interesting topics from a great vocal sound
My biggest fighting game successes are where I love the character I'm playing. Their style fits me, I like how it feels to win, and I don't feel shorthanded. Trying to get better is much easier when you love this part of the journey.
Been casually playing fighting games since the 90s, and never bothered to use light & medium attacks (if they're available) since everything else has been enough to work against friends and AI. That is until I played Samurai Shodown (2019).
I feel the biggest hurdle for most ppl is accountability. Admitting that you lost because of your mistakes can be a bitter pill to swallow if you think that you're really good but finally come across some players that can blow u up. Once u can accept that u aren't as good as u thought u were and approach every game and situation with an open mind and a will to learn, the path to greatness becomes a lot more clear. cus blaming ur losses on tiers is just dumb. stop it. stahp.
I completely agree with the expert being more intuitive than calculating. If I think back at anything I honestly became the BEST at. When facing opponents it was purely feel based.
Wow amazing video! I find it's tough to get better when your friends want to keep switching between games. The toughest part is going against people and losing constantly, but like you mentioned it's all about learning a bit everytime.
7:03 the best example of this imo, is fox/falco shine in melee. Designed as a reflector, the community eventually found out that it comes out frame one, can be jumped out of, etc.
@@ibuj001 I hate to say this but he's right. The secret to *ultra instinct* is to be able to *"react"* without having to think(muscle memory) while trusting your instincts. A pro has seen and went through every scenario, so expect their reactions to be very *divine.*
God I know this is an old video but I love people who really analyze games, and as someone just getting into fighting games your videos are amazing. #1 account on this site.
Anything that guy says is completely useless. Like, I legitimately don't think I've seen anyone outside of a foreign dictator that consistently spouted so much bullshit.
Man, this was such an intriguing and well-done video. I like how you applied the psychological theory to the fighting game genre itself. It really illuminated some things for me. I'm probably still in the intermediate stage when it comes to Street Fighter, lol.
Unfortunately the paperback copy of Daigo's book isn't being sold online currently. You have to get it from the man himself usually at events.
Awwww, dang!
how much does it go for?
I think it was 15 bucks.
when it does come out on paperback can you let us now :O?
would buy
"In page 102, Lord Daigo says..."
"And the lord looked upon them and said "GIT GUD OR GET REKT SON!" And thus it was..."
@@Azmodeus87 This was a year ago but. . .This is still funny as fuq
Glad i could brighten more then one of your days.
amen.
@@Azmodeus87 XD yeah thanks bro
I've been playing classical guitar for over 10 years and I'm so happy that people draw similarities between it and fighting games because practicing combos and playing etudes truly have the same therapeutic effect.
Yeah definitely, Bust a Groove is one of my favorite "almost" fighting games.
Core-A Gaming I’m the only one in my fam that loves Bust-A-Groove.
By pure chance i'm learning Recuerdos Del Alhambra and it pops up in here lol
Nujabes!
Instruments are way harder .
"Make continued growth your goal rather than winning"
The same is true of real martial arts and I've made huge progress since fully understanding this concept. I like to implement what I call "objective based sparring". Winning in a sparring match becomes a secondary objective and focusing on a particular skill I want to work on such as maintaining solid defence, putting pressure on my opponent or landing a technique I'm weak at becomes the primary goal.
completely true.
Same here martial arts have made me understand gaming and more importantly life differently, wisdom and knowledge is the key more then the victory, the “win” means absolutely nothing if you don’t understand why your opponent loss, or more importantly you didn’t understand what your opponent was doing or WHY they was doing what they was doing. Don’t get caught up on the competitiveness but focus on what do I need to work and improve on, that’s why you should ALWAYS train with a person that has more wisdom and knowledge then you because those are the people that’s going to help you understand EVERYTHING. Keep it humble
-buys book- -Gets home and excitedly opens it- -""GIT GUD" written and repeated through all 500 pages-
sharpshooter188 damnit
Why do you cross everything
@@chip-lol cuz he wants to git gud
@@kibbywitz grow a brain
@@gerryjtierney woah calm down jamal, don't pull out the 9.
Playing the same character for 11 years. That helps a lot.
That's how I got good at Soulcalibur. I just kept playing Maxi.
True, but sometimes, it's hard to settle on just one
Too bad some characters are dlcs and are not always in the next game
@@filmsofficial8712 that's why daigo played Ryu and Guile, they're almost always there
By doing so you wont need to think of how to do the different things an other character does but only think about how you can deal with this matchup and its set of moves making you unconsciously learning the match up and at the same time knowing the weakness and strengths of your own character and the enemies.
what has made me get better at fighting games? just the will to play with my friends and do cool things. simple reasons. I've only started playing fighting games 2-3 years ago and it just because my friend put me on Maximilian and watching people compete one on one was so different than my fps mindset. seeing my friend enjoy these games and the reactions of joy or saltiness in the end of a match made me interested. I usually play in 32 player servers and this idea of one on one was other worldly to me. I enjoy getting better, trying to keep up, losing, winning, all these emotions I get from fighting games have really changed my life. I know I've rambled, anyone who actually read this, thanks.
Yeah, it's always great to be part of a hype moment, even if you're on the receiving end.
I modeled my fighting game playstyle around a specific Street Fighter Third Strike quote from Ryu. "A good fighter is constantly learning, during that fight, you taught me how to defeat you." It stuck with me for so long, because I remember thinking about it over and over, and when I figured it out, the breakthrough was amazing. If you pay enough attention in a match, you can see what your opponent is doing, but if you do it right, you can also pay attention to what they're *not* doing. The flaws can become more apparent and you then learn what to exploit. The quote taught me to learn from whom I play and if possible, incorporate it into my own style.
I've just started to play SFV, and I'm pretty bad, but watching videos of people pulling crazy combos with the character I use always motivates me to play again
you just gotta keep at it bro
we can train if you want to, I know some combos with nash and a bit of theory, but I have no idea what is safe, how to punish or how to play against specific characters D:
my ID is 'Albireon'
Is your avatar a picture of you tring to do Guile's v-skill?
who do you play?
You'll know when you're truly into fighting games when things other than combos interest you
Exceptional video dude!
what are you doing here i thought u only played shooters
@@kepler180 Silver Cammy, Ryu, and Chun Li in SFV :) Been playing since SFIV AE casually
"How to get good at anything"
Could be also a title for this, great video as always man, very motivational.
Yeah, a lot of it applies to other stuff which is kind of why people like games.
have you studied sports/performance psychology? your content is incredible
I read Daigo's book and read a couple of studies available on the internet.
Core-A Gaming Do you recommend any other book that helps to improve in FGC? And may I please have the links or the names of the websites where you got more info about this topic. Btw I really like your videos.
Genecalypse hi! I would recommend the Inner Game of Tennis. It's the pioneer book of sports psychology and can be easily applied to Fighting Games, as the book dwelves into the 2 1on1 fights going on in any 1vs1 competition: the actual playerA vs playerB, but also the fight each player has within themselves.
I play melee but this could easily apply to all FGC games. It gives good tips on how to fight bad habits and building a right mindset free of judgement in order to improve
ill look into it, thanks!
The content is, in fact, credible, because he cites his sources very well. Haha, what a pun I made, proud of myself.
you touched on it a little bit and its really answering that question "what makes you want to play?" in other words the motivation. And that becomes so different for so many people but it ultimately leads to the same path of practice. One of the best aspects i love about Esports is you can look at Pro players and just think "I can't do that" but you get the benefit of trying it yourself immediately. I mean a cool play in Football requires a situation pending on 21 other people but games are something we get to try for ourselves straight away and that makes the cycle for motivation way faster than mastering traditional sport.
Yeah, I usually go to training mode after watching a tournament.
You don’t really loose anything when you loose in fighting games; there are only positive outcomes. You either loose the match/interaction and gain understanding of what doesn’t work and a drive to get better, or win and find out what can work and gain the confidence to keep on improving.
That's not true at all. Getting juggled constantly just kills the fun for me, also having to play against people who've had months or years of experience makes for a one sided affair. The pay off isnt even that great either. As someone so plays an instrument I find it infinitely more satisfying
For fuck sake, it's "lose", you dumb fuck...!
This varies from person to person. Many simply lose and quit, because their drive doesn't work like that.
For real. Personally, I see every loss I have in a fighting game as a learning experience. Something that was my fault but something I should work to improve. I think having a mindset like this can help keep your ego low and in check.
1 win due to 10 losses is better than 1 loss exacerbated in your head because of a streak of 10 wins imo (I hope that makes sense).
the problem (for me atleast) is not figuring out what your doing wrong,
its really just finding the time and effort to actually practice different inputs, combos, techs, etc for 1000 hours
once you figure out how difficult, muscle-memory reliant, and required they are.
beautiful. I always get excited for your videos. This stuff applies to life as well and goes on a much deeper level than just fighting games.
I wish I could find that book in hardcover format though lol.
Yeah, I think video games can teach life lessons in ways traditional sports and education can't.
My psychology mentor showed me this video when it went out. I was maybe 15 yo and now I’m 23 and still watch cause sometimes, you have to get back to the basics. Thanks for this amazing analysis. You made really interesting metaphors and parallels 🤘🏾🌌🙏🏾
your videos are brilliant. I feel they are sometimes relevant to life beyond fighting games. they're philosophical and inspiring at times. thanks again for these times.
One thing that really helped me get farther in the game I used to play (I moved from Smash 4 to Melee) was always thinking from the perspective of my opponent and then trying to adjust your play as a result of what they're punishing and not. I think its getting super difficult now with melee because there's always so much going on and it gets really overwhelming to think that way, but it really helps in terms of understanding the sort of flow the game you're playing has and how certain characters work. Doing dittos against someone with your main is incredibly helpful with this because when you think that way, you're understanding the punishes (From the perspective of the opponent), and the approaches (From your perspective). Neutral is something that can't be taught really, at least in Melee, because there are always so many options at a given time that everybody's neutral has a certain style and yours develops with experience and knowledge.
The scenes with your cat had me cracking up. Very nice analysis.
Yeah, he has no respect for Daigo at all.
@@CoreAGaming That cat's going to win EVO someday.
One day in 2009, I played about 40 games of King of Fighters XII.
I loved KOF but I wasn't good at the game. Each loss I got was a lesson in how to actually PLAY the game. It became fun when I got closer and closer to winning.
The more I played, the more things click. I eventually got the win!
I was more impressed with how much better I was getting as opposed to just trying to get that W.
Wins and losses mean nothing in video games. It isn't the end of the world if you lose. Yeah it can be frustrating as hell but if it gets to the point where you're a butthole because of the loss, you gotta step away.
Edit: Damn, I didn't realize I got so many likes 4 years later!
Shaun On Site I did the same thing in MKX.
I mean if u rage its normal thing
"Wins and losses mean nothing in video games. It isn't the end of the world if you lose."
Want to get into Elite Smash in Smash Ultimate and lose 5 times in a row to Fire Emblem meta-pickers? GUESS WHAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING INTO NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY? YOUR GOAL OF GETTING IN IS GONE. FINITO. FINISHED! Wins and losses mean a tiny bit if you had some kind of aspiration in ranked, in this case.
Alastorchaos LMFAO. I GOT INTO ELITE DAY 2 WYM
Alastorchaos Them being “meta pickers” doesn’t change the fact that you still lost. Stop blaming the characters and blame yourself for not knowing how to deal with their options.
How to get better at fighting games: Don't be like LTG
+Gang Star Or DSP.
Yeah, DSP is worse
You guys talking shit, you think you can talk shit hu? GET THAT ASS BANNED! xD
Bomas1231 Charge characters are for retards
Charge characters are ?
For me it was finding a Fighting Game I WANTED to get better at. For me I absolutely despised fighting games until my friend showed me Tekken 7. Now of course I was bad at first but the pure want to get better helped me experiment and prevail.
Fuck that. I'll just wait for Capcom to release some paid DLC that makes me win all the matches.
relevant username
well...it gets controversial if it happened,trust me
and what will happen if your opponent use it too? :v
you could use the training mode
Yo yo yo Can't wait for BLANKA!!
You have honestly changed my life by your uploads. I have always loved the fighting game scene and as a college student I have found my passion as a hobby. This game is far more deeper than many think even my psychology teacher wants to team up and create something to understand it. You have inspired me to go out and buy what I need to start what you have started. In other ways you are some what a Daigo lol a person who I see as a reference of where I want my content to go. I do not want to just upload replays but I want to understand more and get into the minds of these pros. Thank you so much and much love from Houston TX!
That's awesome to hear. Now is a great time for gaming so there's a ton of potential for content. Good luck!
ChronoSplit Hey I'm from H-town too
The thing that let me take it to the next level was learning lose gracefully. Its hard. Especially when hungry or tired. Actually id say im still learning how to lose. But being able to keep it together and appreciate why I loss helped a lot. Its also useful because a great way to get better is to fight people better than you, which of course incites loss.
this channel deserves a ton more subs than it has right now. the quality of content is amazing! keep it up!
We need this channel to come back
I believe in keeping things methodical is what made me improve. I've gotten better after playing GO, or Core-A Gaming as they call it in Korea *Baduk*. This is because I've learned to break things down into options by analyzing my opponents moves, and what they want from me. The basics; however, most of my Smash *4* skill level came from Brawl, which came from taking things from Top players and applying it and understanding why it works.
However, I was only stuck at the *high level* inconsistent player, the person who can compete with top level players like :Marss, Pugwest, Koolaid, and Craftis, yet lose to a mid high level local player. Therefore, I recently started breaking down the game to options and treating it like a *GAME*... avoid this move, this move etc...of course with incorporating reads and such.
I just want to say Thank you Core A-Gaming for the videos and this one in particular, because now I feel like I'll be top 10 ranked in my region again if I just keep playing to improve and discover myself, as well as playing simple games like sweep and throw in order to solidify my gameplay.
smash 4 kappa
Taziod :/ I've also entered Brawl, Soul Calibur 5, Street fighter 4, Dead or Alive 3, and 5 tournaments as well as Tekken placing top 4 in all of them at the time I started.
I just prefer to focus on one game for now.
another great analysis video on fighting games, appreciate your research and findings
This is by far one of Core-A's most underrated videos.
This video actually compelled me to do a book project on The Will to Keep Winning!, and at one point I actually quoted you. Awesome vid!
videos like this is why you're my favorite fighting game youtuber, keep up the good work.
This is why I like tutoring my friends at games, im learning rookie tactics and comparing them to pro plays, seeing how similar they are, and learning from it; whilst still showing them how to overcome some harder tactics. It really shows that you can learn from everyone, and everyone's still a rookie in some areas.
You inadvertently have created an extremely well put together guide to life while making a comprehensive guide to gaming which I appreciate and applaud at the same time...I can only imagine the time and effort put into these witty and informative vids. Thanks for your contribution G...I Wish you much success bro. peace
This series helped me get better at PvP videogames, period, and lately I've been applying it to my work as well, so... Yeah, thanks a lot for all the analyses, they've helped me a ton :D
Odd enough my inspiration has been crossover FG players who has been successful at tapping knowledge and implementing it in multiple games do well. It really puts things in perspective of what you can learn to get better as a player. Players such as Kazunoko, GO1 and such. You wonder how they can play all these different fighting games so well but it just comes to having that passion and fun to play the game enough to learn and compete. Its also helped me in bouncing back and forth to SFV as I don't have any real motivation to be competitive with it but just enough to learn the game in general.
I can't believe the quality of this video. Linked studies? Clear info? Funny animations so the video doesn't bore us for the interesting info? Subbed.
Just keep playing and add a tiny stone to your expierence, strategy, knowledge each day.
Sometimes it may come after a very long session but it's not less/more important than others.
Keep playing, develop and everything will be fine.
Having someone to work with you closely and personally through your journey helps a lot. Someone who makes you happy, driven, and frustrated.
Amazing video as always. You are amazing at research for the video topic. By far i think this is your best video.
Thanks, spent the most time on this one.
Your videos are amazing. Well presented, informational, on point research, and as a testament of it all the concepts in fighting games are relatable to other facets in life that even the casual fighting game fan can take something away from it all. One of my favorite analysis channels man keep it up!
I feel like I've been stuck to competency all my life... I know there's something blocking my progress, but I don't know what...
80 - 90% of people in any given field/activity is usually stuck there. The biggest hurdle is time and energy, in most cases. Most have jobs or school that interferes with training.
I don't personally see anything wrong with that, as long as you enjoy the experience along the way.
iohanan metellus you mean for fighting games as well? If youre competent at fighting games but not amazing, i can help you there lol
Gotta watch dem replays, what's stopping you from moving on will soon show up, then you'll get to it.
yeah I know what you mean. we don't realise that we're getting slowly better but we are.
Not a fighting game player, but have been building a portfolio in card games. I've been in the competency stage for a bit, so this video gave me a bit of hope. Thank you.
perfect... these videos get better and better. glad to see such well thought out content on an awesome subject
Glad you enjoyed it!
If I'm honest with you, the thing that has helped me the most to get better at fighting games, are your videos. If UA-cam hadn't recommended me this channel, I would've probably given up on fighting games a long time ago. Keep up the amazing work!
Here are the three secrets to getting good at fighters:
1: Dedicate a lot of time to execution and combos(This isn't that hard if you main only one character)
2: Predict what your opponent is going to do in every situation, and learn to adapt.
3: Play a very wide range of people that use different characters in different ways.
Crimson-fox Twitch
1. Boring as sin.
2 and 3. cant do either because 1 is boring as sin.
Near the end you mentioned that sort of bafflement. As a kid I remember walking by an arcade at the boardwalk and saw two teenagers playing MvC2, and even though I got to watch for like 15 seconds, it was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. I was pretty much enamored with fighting games after that. If an older me went back and told my younger self "one day you too will be doing chain AHVB's and sentinel refly combos", I wouldn't have known what to say.
How to get better at fighting games:
Step 1. Mash DP on wake up
Step 2. Mash DP on wake up
Step 3. Mash DP on wake up.
Remember these steps and you'll reach diamond rank online in no time.
ha LOL only dumb peeps will fall for that.
Good Luck trying that in tekken
Mash that DP and FP, it will win footsies with priority
In every situation you just DP and FP, for a three hit combo, O, T, GGGGG ♪
Had to stop playing Ken just to get used to not doing it. Unless I have trigger. Then I can do it, cancel it, and oh looky here 300 dmg into super and you're dead because Ken.
But I play Bison
Damn intuition is what I'm best at. Just have to keep working until it clicks with my technical side. Thanks for the video.
I am just starting out on fighting games(SF5) and it is very frustrating. Because this is my first fighting game ever I am having problems with doing a hadouken reliably and making 4 chain combos. Also I tried using the D-pad and it is impossible for me. The analog stick is better but it is still hard
Don't give up on the genre entirely if you somewhat enjoy it. I started with Killer Instinct on GameBoy when I was 4 (Dad's mistake for buying it, haha), and I now enjoy Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Super Smash Bros. (Melee and 4, although not as much lately), and a few others at the "ripe" age of 24.
If SFV is too much right now, there's nothing wrong with picking up an older title (or even a different series) if you want to progressively get better at the genre.
Don't worry about d-pad or analog stick if anyone's telling you one is better. My friend is a beast with stick on pad and it just comes down to practicing until it's muscle memory. Ultimately it's if you're having fun playing. If it's not fun or not getting any funner, fighting games might not be for you. Just have fun. :)
if combos are hard. don't do them. go to the lab then just do the hodo until you can do it 5 times in a row on each side yes will be boring and frustrating but once that is accomplished you will fell good about your self. also only do it for 15 minutes take a 15 break then do it again.
which one of those games would u recommend to start with besides SFV?, I'm still learning SFV. but looking for another game to pick up for more understanding of the genre like u said, and also for more fun/variety of course.
SFV is a great starting point for gaining understanding of what a fighting game encompasses and what's required to learn. Anti-airs, footsies, basic specials and combos that aren't 12 minutes long. I suggest looking up some beginner guides, (I'm on mobile, otherwise I'd help link some) and starting with Ryu. Start with buttons, what can you use light punch for? What uses does crouching heavy punch have? Then move to specials and continue from there.
But to answer the question of another game to start with, any street fighter that isn't 4, the soul calibur games if you can look at them analytically, Mortal Kombat 9 or X... Depends on what you'll find fun really.
Yo man, just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. Your videos not only help me understand complex topics and ideas in fighters, but also push me to become a better fighter. I always look forward to watching your videos.
losing made me better
You got me into fighting games when I wanted to get it you brought me back in when I couldn’t get a fire ball off and a Z for my life you helped now I can do fire balls and sometimes miss I can bearly do z but I’ve gotten better thank you so much im on floor 4 in guilty gear and have been fighting floor 10s in open park and some times win 1 round 😊
Man! you keep doing great videos! love the dunning Kruger reference, one of my favorite" cognitive bias. You could do a video on netcode online vs offline practice etc..
Usf4 zangief losses taught me how not to go all crazy 360 motion. This also taught me control and footsie. Control spacing and to inch closer. Excellent video. Learn, think, evolve.
While this doesn't apply to fighting games, it does to Mobas, at least for me.
I realized somewhere in there that I don't actually find the super competitive games "Fun", instead that they are more of an experiment in expertise. While I may laugh or enjoy a specific event, overall the game is more rewarding through personal growth, rather then in its victory and loss. A loss where you learned the exact limits of a character was so much more valuable then a stomping victory. This sort of mindset sort of ostracized me from my friends in regards to the game, but kept me going at it. I don't actually know what motivates me to get better, but simply that I look at the game and say "I want to", and so I do. It gives me a chance to be a leader, a flag-bearer, someone who can rally the troops and pull to victory, regardless of circumstance. The pressure and possibility of failing my team, combined with that drive for victory is a self fueling machine that rolls its way up any hill and through any mountain too high to scale. I found pro play to be boring to watch. I'd rather just be there, playing myself, getting blown up or being victorious, which obviously hurts my growth a bit, as I have to make other people's mistakes to really learn them, rather then just borrowing from the pros, but there's something so satisfying about seeing something being done, looking at *why*, then carrying it out yourself and watching the logic click. I don't think the want to Win is what keeps me, and others that share this mindset going, its instead the want to compete. You're not looking for the carrot, you want to grab the stick and beat the guy next to you with it.
Hope this held some insight.
"Y u no block" 😂😂😂😂😂 man I found this channel yesterday and literally watched this all day. The content is so good and detailed. I'm learning so much.
Can you make a video on Combos and how important they are? High vs Low execution. Etc.
This idea of simplifying the learning to sweeps and throws is awesome! I'm doing this now. Wish there was more to know on it.
Great videos, bro. Always look forward to them as I learn a lot. Keep it up.
To Everyone Else:
I been a fan of FG's forever but new to actually playing them. Always thought it was too daunting a task. Looking for people to have consistent matches and help me learn. Picked up SfV and I'm currently silver. Hit me up. Trying to get better.
My cfn is RaijinEXE
Ryuga Raijin nice I'll try and add you. Be good to gets some consistent matches. Thank you.
hey dude - my CFN is godofiron.
been stuck on silver for a while - I'm trying to get better too...!
Anthony Neptune seeing that this comment is 9 months old I'm curious; what's your rank now? :P
Your videos are so fucking good. I really wish more people knew about this channel, it's hard to make new quality content with without seeing a huge change in subs. Keep up the good work, and know you have avid fans!
Honestly, great video. I think that your videos are not only great at helping with fighting games but also helping in life. I've taken away a lot of life lessons from your videos and I just wanted to say thanks. It would be awesome if you replied
Sure thing :)
jesus i’ve had recuerdos stuck in my head for days, and i’ve been watching these videos, it is so hilarious to see them come together
ur channel is really very informative... keep it up
What actually motivated me to go back and play fighting games were your videos man, they provide a deep analysis (wich I enjoy thoroughly) of a subject I've always been deeply interested.
Sadly, the FGC in my country is nonexistent so I'll be stuck with playing online for the next few years.
I just wanted to look cool when I fought. instead of using single kicks and punches I wanted to impress my friends with flashy combos, so I decided to get better and practice.
After having consistently played a fighting game for almost a year now, this video really resonated with me. Especially the part about small discovery's and improvements and what Infiltration said about thinking outside the box.
i lost my will to keep winning and improving, after the sorry release of SF 5.
might regain it with the release of TKN 7, who knows.
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@TruMusic89 i have, actually.
got to Fujin in online ranked not long ago.
@TruMusic89 well, the release of tekken 7 basically.
despite all the issues the game has gone through, i still love it.
Came here from the short. Thanks to the person who linked the original, full video. Was a good taste and made me want to know more. :-)
Yo, dead ass the best way to get gud is... Put on Futurama, hold that L, and move on. Jurassic Bark.
StophersRAWR Best episode.
Yessir, great channel btw. Shout outs from Tokyo!
I love this channel so much! Glad I stumbled upon sooner than later.
Honestly, I have been playing Melee for about two years now and what kept me going was my friends, my love for the game, and the constant drive to get better piece by piece.
Now, it’s awesome and I am learning more and more tech that comes easy to me
BEADY ZASS!
Daigo is becoming more and more like Ryu every day. That method of thinking. "The Fight." Great video! Understanding is the path of GitGud.
i've always wanted to get into street fighter.
i've always thought it looked really fun and could definitely fit alongside smash brothers for the fighting games i play.
just need to get my hands on a fight stick, but jeez they can be pretty expensive.
A stick isn't necessary to play SFV. Start on pad, and if you really get into the game then work your way onto sick.
Yeah I learned stick and am pretty good with it but nowhere near as good as I am on pad. Just don't feel same sense of control of movement on stick because I've played on pad entire life. Idk how long I'd have to play on stick to feel 100% comfortable. It's been 5 months and I still prefer pad.
theDiReW0lf probably the most difficult thing for me to adjust to on stick is how differently I seem to control movement and special moves depending on what side I'm facing. For whatever reason when I'm facing right, things are easier to execute then when I'm facing left. I'm not really sure how to get that to change. Most of the time I can still execute everything with the same precision, but every now and again I'll find a move or motion that I find tricky when facing left.
Also, the advantages of playing on a stick vary from game to game. On SFIV I felt stick was almost necessary, on SFV it's much less critical. On a game like MKX it's practically no advantage what so ever.
But as with anything else, practice makes perfect. My advice would be to never use pad again. Force yourself to use stick all the time, you'll eventually make the adjustment, and you'll find advantages in using it.
Yeah I made a habit of always being on the right side in training mode. Thing is I have zero problems execution-wise with stick. I can do all my combos/setups/mixups just fine. It just still doesn't feel as natural as pad movement-wise.
I played stick exclusively for a few months but eventually caved in. I'll give it another go because even though I feel more comfortable on pad, there's a lot of things that are easier to do on stick and it definitely is more benefiting to play on.
Get Fightcade.
No question which stage of video-making expertise you’ve attained. Superb work.
Hello Core-A Gaming
Hey Justin.
I cannot emphasize enough how much I love your videos - they too inspire me to keep getting better at fighting games!
In fighting games and other competetive games I seem to get stuck at the competence level :(
My whole life is stuck at the competence level.
I want to take a few moments to say that your videos are just really, but really well done, they are interesting, even out of the competitive gaming situation, well grounded, and great diversity to explain without making too much use of technicalities, your work is just impeccable, i hope i can get more videos from this channel, and more interesting topics from a great vocal sound
6:04 "Just use they" Thank you haha
Dude, your videos keep getting better and better. We all really appreciate the time you take to put these together. Good stuff!
poyo the real god
That was the best popoff I had ever seen.
My biggest fighting game successes are where I love the character I'm playing. Their style fits me, I like how it feels to win, and I don't feel shorthanded. Trying to get better is much easier when you love this part of the journey.
Been casually playing fighting games since the 90s, and never bothered to use light & medium attacks (if they're available) since everything else has been enough to work against friends and AI. That is until I played Samurai Shodown (2019).
Videos are fighting game centered but so many if them(like this one) apply to competitive gaming in general. I love that about this channel.
I feel the biggest hurdle for most ppl is accountability. Admitting that you lost because of your mistakes can be a bitter pill to swallow if you think that you're really good but finally come across some players that can blow u up. Once u can accept that u aren't as good as u thought u were and approach every game and situation with an open mind and a will to learn, the path to greatness becomes a lot more clear.
cus blaming ur losses on tiers is just dumb. stop it.
stahp.
I completely agree with the expert being more intuitive than calculating. If I think back at anything I honestly became the BEST at. When facing opponents it was purely feel based.
That cat!!
I used this video as a reference in a school project! Such a well-researched and inspiring video!
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More like game
Wow amazing video! I find it's tough to get better when your friends want to keep switching between games. The toughest part is going against people and losing constantly, but like you mentioned it's all about learning a bit everytime.
Daigo is like real life Ryu.
Daigo is real life trash
7:03 the best example of this imo, is fox/falco shine in melee. Designed as a reflector, the community eventually found out that it comes out frame one, can be jumped out of, etc.
"just react?" so professionals are literally using ultra instinct? 😂
I’m pretty sure the ability to react to something isn’t the same as using UI.
@@ibuj001 I hate to say this but he's right. The secret to *ultra instinct* is to be able to *"react"* without having to think(muscle memory) while trusting your instincts. A pro has seen and went through every scenario, so expect their reactions to be very *divine.*
God I know this is an old video but I love people who really analyze games, and as someone just getting into fighting games your videos are amazing. #1 account on this site.
did u just said "lord daigo" ? lol lmao 4Head Kappa.
the expertise definition is very much correct, true mastery is more of a feeling
0:23 BURRRRNNNNNNN
this is actualy also an analysis on how to achieve mastery in any possible field or subject. great content.
" there is no such thing as a read it's a guess" ltg
Anything that guy says is completely useless. Like, I legitimately don't think I've seen anyone outside of a foreign dictator that consistently spouted so much bullshit.
but i bet he has more points than you.... this fkn fgc is full group thinking losers.
***** ...you realize I'm talking about Low Tier God, not Core. Right?
Get that cancer off this channel! Lol LTG is trash.
You don't have to look at foreign leaders to see that. You can find em right here at home, lol
Man, this was such an intriguing and well-done video. I like how you applied the psychological theory to the fighting game genre itself. It really illuminated some things for me. I'm probably still in the intermediate stage when it comes to Street Fighter, lol.