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At the very peak of their success, Nirvana front-man Kurt Cobain leaves rehab only to go missing for days on end. In the Documentary, Foo Fighters: Back and Forth, Guitarist Pat Smear explains the last phone call he received from Kurt during his disappearance that he sadly missed.
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Foo Fighter: Back and Forth- • Video
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Love this clip sir! Where is the whole documentary, ;even searching all night! Thanks in advance!
@@niko9608 did u find it?.. what's it called
Wait that thumbnail reminds me of Kurt with Biggie
I'd enjoy it more if you didn't cliclkbait, you fakeass sycophant! Sure Kurt would have appreciated the idea that your "headline" has nothin' to do with the article... Great show of integrity.
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Could you imagine being in the biggest band of the decade and suddenly your lead singer is dead and it’s all over just like that.
That’s why they should tour while rotating front people. Like they did for R&R HOF. Like - let some cool lead singer/guitarist type get to ride the Nirvana machine for 6 dates. Then hand off. It’s better than never being able to see this music live again. There is an Elvis fronted Nirvana in EngLand that started out as a goof, but is filling concert halls and festivals because people are so HUNGRY to experience this music live
maddymud half the problem was they was literally on tour and playing some kind of show since the fecal matter days.
He turned down lalapalooza for a decent chunk of money cuz he was sick of touring at the moment.
not even just that, but a band that was noticeably changing the course of rock music in a big obvious way
That’s the dark tone of Nirvana, it was always gonna end that way.
wantsome7655 Kurt was getting plenty of “voice of his generation” press while he was still alive. They sold millions of records years before he died. They headlined the 92 Reading fest. They were the first “important band” of the nineties and they were huge.
Things get romanticized when someone dies young and tragically so yes Kurt then became “iconic” but they were definitely one of the biggest bands in the world. To say they “only blew up” in the wake of his death is absurd.
It sounds like what you mean is that people jumped on some kind of bandwagon when he died and you didn’t like that.
The way Dave says "I don't want you to die, okay?"
Is just so heartwarming.
It sounded like he was making that up as he went along. Dave's a tool anyway.
No I think Dave took away with what was left and made an arms out wave of musical awesomeness.
He could’ve stayed a bands drummer and made his own way later, but he shined his own light after the fact. Kurt was his neutron initiatior to the hydrogen bomb of his fame and astronomical career.
Kurt I feel as well as he did wanted a better life, but he couldn’t handle stardom. If he were around today and stuck with stardom a bit he would’ve prevented much of the onstage abortions we have now.
On a phone call? Sooooooo heart wrenching! (not) The 94 equivalent of an sms. Grohl by the way is a sociopath. Try to look at him from this point of view now, in hindsight youll see it. Dave does and says what serves Dave. He lies a lot, makes up stories. Hes actually quite sick in the head.
@@dcoop1422 looking at your comment i'm kind of stunned that there's actually someone else who sees it though I'm still surprised that so many don't. A few years ago I spent a few days off and on watching videos of him and was amazed at how he plays everyone and how they eat it up for example, when he broke his leg and acted like someone who's body was half in traction, when there was just a below the knee cast, all so that people would fawn over him for making a sacrifice to his fans by continuing to play shows LOL, he even had people carry him on stage in a stretcher while clueless fans cheered. And the way he expresses his false humility or mentions his "good deeds", there's something clearly off about him. And he'll do that and then turn around and laugh about how a friend of his stomped a dog and then beat someone to a pulp for no reason in a bar. I've forgotten most of what I saw but there was a lot. Someone could write a book about it all.
EDIT: Disregard the "stomped a dog" comment as I was thankfully very mistaken about that. No dog was stomped.
D Coop
100% agree. Grohl is full of shit and only few people can see through his lies - he couldn’t give two fucks for Kurt’s well being. He was and still is an egomaniac who only cares about himself. People who know him on a personal level know this.
Also, I read somewhere that things got sour between Cobain and Grohl/Krist towards the end, because they were demanding a bigger pay cut from Nevermind.
Cobain was only really in good terms with Pat at that point. Pat’s the only good friend in all this.
It’s heartbreaking how much pain you can heat in Dave’s voice when talking about the end of Kurt’s life even after all this time.
There's a Welsh word called Hiraeth that means, roughly, longing for a home you can never return to. It feels apt with regards to Kurt's death for a lot of fans and I imagine anyone who was involved with the band.
Pat Smear has been in two bands with leaders who took their own life early on in their musical journey. That’s hard.
😳
Well there's always green day
Kurt certainly didn't kill himself. Watch the Nirvana series on this channel to know why it's absolutely certain he was murdered. It's the most clear case I can think of as the amount of heroin would have made him unconscious without him even having the chance to push the syringe empty. Let alone take the needle off, clean everything and put them back in the box, then take the shotgun and shoot himself. It's four times the highest amount that anyone has ever survived, and there are not even one recorded case of suicide done by a gun after taking massive dose of heroin, and especially when there is still more heroin to be used.
@@juzujuzu4555 shut up.
@@Fireglo thank you lol...I'm tired of hearing this ..👊🏻🎸
Dave looks so disappointed when he says Courtney is Kurt's wife
HE KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT DONT TAKE MUCH TO LOOK AT HIS DEATH AND KNOW HER FUNKY BEHIND WAS BEHIND IT!!!!!!!!
@@exclamationpointman3852 yeah i reckon that asshole alan wrench done kurt in.
kryo Boy yeah Courtney paid him
@@kmasonsos rip kurt.what could have been 😞
@@kryoboy1966 "alan wrench"???
Ok, ill check him out. I dont think i heard of him and still know that woman guilty! She offered to pay other people!
“Hey it’s Pat Smear from the Germs.... he’s alive???!!” Lol
Pepsolman Grohl knows how to tell a story. Through a kit or otherwise.
He still plays with Foo fighters lol...
DEFEATER it’s a quote from the video
“Hey, it’s Pat Smear from the Germs.... Wow! Did they fuckin suck or what?”.
He’s punk as fuck
When Kurt apologized to Dave on the phone saying it was a big mistake puts a tear to your eye
Met Pat in Australia, told him I love his performance on unplugged in New York, he's impressed after 25 years I still remember him(who not!), Such a humble man and he gave me his guitar pick which I always carry it in my wallet as a lucky charm
That's so cool
Pat is so sick!
'His wife' lol. Dave just didn't want to say it.
Yeah, and the look on hes face when he said that....tells alot.
he was hurting inside
Didn't want*
Now decades later she's a whole "year" sober like she's claimed before and an advocate against narcotics....the good die Young and shitty people live to be 100 years old. She's your proof 🤦🤣
-his wife.... not to say that cnt”
The look on Pat's face when he says "I decided on 'This is Kurt Cobain, VIP!'" is heart wrenching. Poor guy.
I would wish being put in that position on anyone. 😞😕😢
Pat must have went through a lot when Darby died too.
RJ Smith you just made my heart sink 😞
Lol- I bet Pat was just so hurt
Seems like Kurt really took to Pat as friend. Kurt would go down to the basement with Pat to make music which really says something of Pats demeanour imo.
He definitely made a big mistake. I'm a 43-year-old grown man and I still break down in tears over Kurt. My heart is broke, but I have some glue, help me inhale and mend it with you… Miss you heaps, Kurt.
Kurt wasn't supposed to get old.
I don't say that in a glorifying way, just... if not that day, then some days later, you know.
You’re over 40 and cry over someone you don’t know and have never met. All he did was write tunes dude. He didn’t make the world a better place like a Gandhi.
@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec You obviously weren't a teenager growing up in the 90s… So you will never understand. Kids these days have the IQ and attention span of a goldfish. We didn't have mobile phones back then that made us brain-dead, we actually went places and socialized. Nirvana make me realize it was okay to be different, and not to conform to societies and other peoples views and expectations just to fit in. Unlike these days, if you don't go along with the narrative, you're an outcast and attacked for having a different view.
@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec How old are you? You only made this UA-cam account less than a week ago. Do you troll people for a living because you have nothing better to do?
@@LSD123.I totally get it dude, when I was going through some pretty rough depression, nirvana helped me get better, and realise who I was. Kurt totally made the world a better place.
I have to admit, to have been alive & a teenager during the time of NIRVANA is an incredible honor. Truly. I’ll NEVER forget where I was the first time I heard “Smells Like Teen Spirit”. This was life altering experience - through their music. I can’t put it into words, but if you know you know.
100%
Ha... I was a kid back in the depressing 90's, but I was listening to fun 70's music instead...
I resonate to this so much-that’s exactly what happened to me too; I was completely mind blown.
Those of us who were of the right age at that time were lucky ❤
It reminds me of the show "My So-Called Life."
Thank God the movie Clueless came out or we all would have died of depression 😂
Pat is a damn legend,
I was fourteen when cobain died, it changed my life, and I will never forget. He was my John Lennon.
For a small town loser, who was bullied and felt like a freak for liking art and weird music, Nirvana was something that came to me at the right time.
I feel you. I know exactly what you mean. Nirvana was everything to me as a teenager. It helped me through some very tough times like my parents divorce and constant bullying at school.
Similar experience and I was 14 as well. I have a binder full of articles and magaizine clippings from then.
i was 25 and i was crushed.. i felt even worse when kim shattuck just passed away. there are some musicians that impact a persons life with their art.
Nicholas Fanzo mine too I was twelve 👊🏻
Thanks for sharing this. Music got many of us through awkward uneasy life shit. Kurt was a unique.
Pat was the perfect fit for Nirvana, too bad it didn't last long
At least he's a Foo Fighter too...
But the time it lasted was priceless
@@kukukev i know right, but think about it, had Kurt never called Pat, he'd probably be just an old and sad has-been punk rocker living off of food stamps somewhere in Idaho or some shit, he does really owe everything he has now to Kurt
@@Palikroked87 What old punk rocker ISN'T a has-been? BTW, tons of people are moving to Idaho to get away from liberal shitholes like Seattle, Portland and California.
@@shootfirst2097 They're living in their own private Idaho.
The way Dave says :"His wife." just broke my heart. They both deserved better.
kurt did
You can feel the contempt from him, and he is widely reported to be one of the kindest people of all. Goes to show how disgusting and toxic that woman was/is. I wish Kurt would have left her and hooked up with PJ Harvey.
@@nickhartman6372 I think he was planning on leaving her. If you listen to the lyrics of you know you're right it's very "yeah I'm outta here"
@@nickhartman6372- I always imagined him with Liz Phair
You mean Kurt and Dave right?
Ironically, it was Kurt's death that woke me up from a fantasy land at age 14. I thought the world was going to be an awesome place where I could go after and live my dreams. When he died, I realized that the world is a horribly unfair and unforgiving place that I've despised for almost 30 years now.
ya , it bummed our whole generation out ,big time
o7
Bummer.
“If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.”
Jesus Christ
Kurt fuiste el mejor musico de mi epoca...si no hubieramos escuchado nirvana..el mundo hubiera sido aun peor de lo que es y sera siempre
This made me so sad when all apologies came on after Dave was talking about how he didn’t want Kurt to die :(
Fish Head we played that at my brother’s funeral so it really really got to me 😞
@@ohmandy6975 Sorry for your lost
Stephen Yew bless your heart and thank you for caring x
@@ohmandy6975 Sorry Mandy. I hope that you're doing ok. When a friend of mine died by suicide years ago, they played Release Me by Pearl Jam...his favorite band. Powerful song ♥️
Faust thank you dear heart I’m doing better than before still have a hard time but I manage. Losing someone so close is really hard. I’m sorry about your friend as well. I found out playing songs at a funeral is not the best idea for me because that song brings great sadness to my soul. Thank you two for being so kind to me about this I hope your lives are full of happiness and lots of love xx
I was expecting a snippet of the call or something
didn't help Kurt how? That wasn't even mentioned (unless I missed it).
It is a misleading title to say the least.
Even if they did show a snippet of the call I think it would be sort of disrespectful. The phone call was private and we dont need to know what they talked about.
@@astroxl1609 I don’t see how it would be disrespectful pat smear was openly talking about.
Use that thing you shut up in the attic when you became addicted to force-fed digital diarrhea: your imagination
4:59 You can clearly see Dave's emotion when speaking those words, he's such a good guy... so sad Kurt was an uncontrollable tornado himself to accept any advice.
breaks my heart how Pat recalls his choice, the sadness in his eyes.
Kurt said of Dave in an interview: "He's the best drummer I've ever heard since John Bonham."
Dave is a phenomenal fucking drummer.
How about Mike Portnoy
Dave is my favorite drummer ever! But even then, i don't think he's better or even as good as Bonham
@@messygamez5675 He's not necessarily better, I agree. But Bonham playing for Nirvana would be atrocious. Dave fit like a puzzle piece
@@sad_rik Exactly, comparing drummers in particular is like apples to apples. Each dude has his own sound for their own bands.
Steve fucking Albini - the no-nonsense punk hardass who produced In Utero - said that Dave is the best drummer he's ever heard.
Pat hung out with Iggy Pop and Joan Jett as a teenager, formed the first hardcore punk band (Germs), was a member of one of the biggest band to ever exists (Nirvana) and is still making music with the Foo Fighters! What a legend!
He's one of the luckiest guys in rock. Of course, he was also part of two legendary punk bands whose lead singers committed suicide. Yes, I consider Nirvana a punk band at heart.
On the downside Pat has also had his friends die in ever one of those bands. Darby, Kurt, and Taylor. Dude seems like such a sweetheart too. 😢
@@maxxxmodelz4061 Definitely up there with Ringo Starr
@@gts2550 Ringo is THE luckiest guy in rock history I'd say. He's not a terrible musician by any means, but he just had the luckiest timing ever when he joined The Beatles right before they broke huge.
@@maxxxmodelz4061 I used to bag on Ringo but at least he can hold a beat, Anthony Kiedis lookin' pretty fuckin lucky to me these days tho.
"his wife". felt like a curse word
I never met him but man do I miss him. That band had a huge impact in my life
The way Dave said "his wife" was like 😨
You can tell there’s still bad blood there
@@sstaners1234 there was at the time. this interview is from 2011
Can I get a time stamp?
@@sstaners1234 No there isn't at all stop playing into that bulla
@@yxkilluaxy6694 3:58
The way Dave says, "...Courtney Love, his...wife" is so telling. You can practically hear the air quotes.
Yeah iam agree with u miss...
He seems really pissed off that Courtney convinced Kurt to go to Rome when Kurt wanted to go home and unwind.
Yeah when he said that I definitely was thinking yeah he really can't stand that bitch
I mean. Kurt had already contacted his lawyer about divorcing her. That’s not rumor that’s according to his lawyer. He wasn’t happy with Nirvana, or her, and wanted out of both.
I know it’s nothing anyone will ever know for sure, I’ll just say if it was suicide, it’s one of the weirdest ever. Especially when credit cards he’d been using for motel rooms to do drugs in days before he died continued to be used after his death.
The gun he’d bought was a very low gauge, and it was loaded with birdshot, he had said it was for home defense after a stalker had been bothering him, and he had gone for the low gauge cause he didn’t wanna kill anyone.
Anyways. There’s a lot more that’s suspicious and just doesn’t add up, but like Elliott Smith, no one will ever know for sure.
Yea, his face totally changed
"I don't want you to die"
"I'm sorry, it was a mistake"
I can't even describe how deeply that hurt me. You can see the ache in Dave's eyes as he says it.
Both Dave and Pat have been given huge, intense blows with the passing of their friends and fellow bandmates.
Kurt, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, Layne Staley, Andy Wood... I can't begin to imagine, if we as fans are heartbroken by the loss of these truly incredible voices, how Dave and Pat feel losing their friends.
The ache that the act of suicide, or drug addiction, leaves never goes away, it just dulls. Not knowing the whys, and thinking of the what ifs, weigh so heavily on the soul.
When Dave and Pat are asked in interviews about Kurt, Layne, Chris or Chester, the flash of pain in their eyes show they're reliving the moment all over again.
I, of course, hope the families of the lost are okay, but my god, I really hope Dave and Pat are okay.
Don’t forget Krist. I think he was the closest to Kurt and he pretty much left the public eye when Kurt died.
@@KevyNova he was 100% closest to kurt and was in the band since day 1, him and Kurt went through 5 different drummers
@@Dobis86 Krist is a gentle giant. I have always liked him.
Kurt was murdered though. It as clear as day if you know the evidence. Just pushing the syringe empty would have been hard, let alone clean everything and put all the equipment away and shoot a gun. Totally impossible. Also there's no recorded suicides by a gun after someone just used a ton of heroin. It has never happened, for obvious reasons.
Cornell and Bennington were in the process of making documentary about that effing massive satanic p3do that was friend of Killary Clinton, Podesta. Also Anthony Bourdain and Avicii were part of that project. Everybody got suicided in almost the same time.
Though I'm not 100% on Chris Cornell, but pretty sure. In any case searching with some other engines than Google should reveal a ton of info on this.
@@juzujuzu4555 Please keep your insane political conspiracies in the basement with all of your human skin furniture. None of us want to see it, thanks.
Pat looks like he has wrestled with his decision every day about if he should have said this is Kurt cobain VIP..feel for everyone who has lost a friend or family member..r.i.p kc. Miss u still everyday ..
I feel bad for Pat Smear. I feel his pain. I also got missed calls and messages from someone who passed away the night before. You always ask yourself what if...
Survivor's guilt.
Bro
I had a good friend...but really he was also my plug. I got a phone call one night and this guy was super nice and being like, hey you gotta come kick it man. I immediately knew something was off a bit. I said, "hey man, I know you took some of your own supply tonight, I need to tell you, those hydrocodones are not real vicodins...those are pressed fentanyl pills, you need to be very very careful, you need to stop drinking now and don't fall asleep anytime soon". I asked him how many he'd taken and he said like 6, see he didnt know the cartel guy he was getting them from had gotten him a fake batch...and that scared me. Because even me as high tolerance addict, taking 60mg of oxy with vicodins at once...and knowing that these fake pills were way way too much for somebody who wasn't an everyday user. He was just trying to let loose one night. I called the next day...no answer. I waited but I needed my fox too and I was starting to get sick. Shake, sweaty, nauseated et cetera. Finally his wife called and let me know that he had passed in his sleep. I felt so bad. I should have went over there and watched him, I could have gotten narcan and been there for him. He was a good dude, wife and 3 kids. Worked everyday in construction as well.
After his wife gave me a handful of pills I told her I was weaning off and that I was very sorry about the whole ordeal. I was sick for a week, and depressed for several but I made it through it. Haven't touched an opiate in 3yrs.
I've lost a lot of friends to OD's, mostly fentanyl. From childhood friends to Army buddies I served with for 8yrs. My own mother OD'd when I was 13. I've seen those drugs take so many lives....and I have no idea why some of us are so attracted to that feeling of using. My brain is in constant overdrive and I guess that's the only thing I ever felt gave me a bit of internal clarity and peace. Sad really. Some of best, most genuine people I've ever known are addicts.😢
Sorry for your loss. Have you heard of a book called "The Presence Process?" It's a book about learning to feel your emotions instead of covering them up or avoiding them with addictions, it has meditations and mantras. There's also a book called "Levels of energy," and another one called "Letting go," and if you care, another book called "Waking the Tiger." They're all for recovering from emotional trauma. I"m in the process of healing now so that I can deal with my current addition, pornography. Good luck dude!@@just_another_gearhead
@@sirandrelefaedelinoge not necessarily. Survivors guilt is from surviving something both people went through together, like a car crash for example. He just feels guilt period. He probably wonders if he had answered Kurt's call, maybe he could have prevented his death. This actually happens a lot when someone commits suicide. Family and friends wonder what they could have done differently but it isn't anyone else's fault. That is, of course, if u believe the suicide theory. I don't know what to believe. Sometimes I think it was murder, sometimes I think it was suicide.
Pat Smear looks like a grungier Ritchie Valens
Ritchie!!!!!! Don't get on the plane!!!!
Hahaha! Yes!
La grunga
Holy shit!! Lol So true.
What about Bob? You're the ASSHOLE wit all the money
I’m going through hard stuff in my life right now. And all I listen to is nirvana to keep my self esteem up
I hope things are better for you, now. They are a wonderfully cathartic band. I hope that helped
/hugs
Don't give up. We need you
Bad band for esteem.
This is how I also feel right now
Man, I clearly remember listening to Nirvana when I was living in Santa Barbara, they blew me away. What a breath of fresh air it was to all of us! You can see the pain in Dave and Pat faces.
I a black guy deeply rooted in hip hop remember being handed Nivanas CD. Listened to the album at least three times on repeat while staring at the cover. Classic. Thank you Mr.Smith.
What has your race to do with anything, man? Just listen to it, if you like it. Don't live for anyone else, but yourself.
@@markusjaguar1258 Again. I was deeply rooted in nothing but hip hop, and never could jam to metal. Grunge was new.
@@charleywade3185 Same for me but the other way - grew up with metal then into grunge with a passion. Then suddenly I was thrust into hip hop, constantly playing Busta, Mobb Deep and the Geto boys. Amazing times, with so much talent in all genres
I did the same to Snoop and Dre's Chronic. Respect
@@charleywade3185 the music you are introduced to has nothing to do with race! I was raised off of 60s classics so when I listen to rock and rap it opened a flood gate to new music. I am a hispanic and i wouldn't have even thought to put my race i connection with music. Especially since everyone has different music tastes and influences. Anyways hip hop had should have nothing to do with your race, it was introduced to you first because someone in your family or is close to prefers that music.
Besides the music, I think that what most amazes me is how Nirvana was like a huge flame or an explosion that only lasts a few seconds and than you only can think/talk/read about it, but never see it again.
@999 zosoz 999 perfect!!
Aka shooting star.
Fire works 🎆🎇🔥
STFU with that stuff you all are lame.
Pretty much, yeah. I first heard Nirvana when MTV started playing Teen Spirit late in 1991 and he was gone by April 1994, two and a half years basically. Back then when I was a teenager, it seemed like a long time, but now that period seems like a blink of the eye.
You can just tell Dave believes and knows something was fishy with Courtney surrounding Kurts death with his facial expression @3:55.
Nonsense.
That look is rooted in her being insufferable, but that’s as far is it goes.
This is heartbreaking. Pat looks genuinely devastated.
If there's anything I take out of his story is that he was always respectful and loving and loyal to his friends/bandmates, and it's nice knowing now that prior to his death he did try to reach out.
Not sure how you got that from this piece, because he was a notorious dickhead to Dave Grohl, who is considered the nicest guy in Rock, which should tell you something.
He wanted to kick him out of the band, this is a fact, so loyal not so much!
@@yunoski6437 yea there's quite a few stories of his less than stellar behavior towards people in general. Brilliant artist but was a broken man who never mentally matured past his teens
Yeah.
...and all of them say the same thing.
"I wish I would have done 'such and such." I really regret that I didn't do 'such and such."
They were all riding the money train and only care because his death was the beginning of the end of the culture that got them on that train to begin with.
@@yunoski6437 just because you're known as the nicest guy in a rock band doesn't mean you can't have your own issues within your band. I'm sorry but I will never believe that Dave didn't say things he regrets or that he hasn't said something that offended or hurt anyone in the business let alone Nirvana. In this clip alone it was pretty clear since he stated issues while on that tour. He went home Kurt went to Rome and how he said his wife let's you know he can be judgemental and have anger about him being with her so please don't say he's God level perfect even down to his attitude. It's ridiculous because we're all human and said things we wish we could take back. Now I don't have an issue with any of them and I personally like Dave's music along with Nirvana's music but come one with all the fluff with Dave because unfortunately he couldn't stand Courtney but that was Kurt's wife at the end of the day and he was notorious known for talking crap about her to pretty much everybody including Kurt. It doesn't matter how I feel about her or how Dave or anyone else felt about her because it was his wife. Between his drug addiction and his wife you can easily see it irritated, angered and frustrated Dave which is very understanding. However you can also see how that could place a lot of tension on the band. It's unfortunate but it happens when you don't like being famous and you have depression, drug addiction and a wife that they can't stand. If Kurt had lived 10 more years I don't think there's anyway that the band would have stayed together.
@@UnderTheMillkyWay how bout stop the lecturing. None of you know.
3:58 Kurt went to rome where he was meeting Courney Love... his... wife... *looks down
hahaha man that was so obvious
A real ballbuster for sure!
I noticed that too, hilarious.
At the same time they had a feud around this time I think
I don’t get it
@@dylwo2053 the rumours go that courtney was affiliated to his 'suïcide' but also Dave Grohl was....
Super fabulous footage. Thanks so much for putting this together 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤘🏻⭐️♥️
Charles I wrote AMERICAN SPYFOX on the Kurt Cobain bench next to his house just for you!! Your the man keep up your amazing work!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Mark Lanagan also said Kurt kept on calling the day he died and that he feels terrible for not picking up the phone knowing Kurt would never have ignored him were it the other way round.
do u have a source for this?
Yeah, I want to know
Yeah, gotta agree as well. Never heard or remember hearing/reading about any of this either w/Lanegan gtng called on day Cobain died etc.
Agree - never heard about this
@@mrseaturtle8915 Lanagan talks about this in an interview within the last two years. I cant remember who was interviewing him, maybe chad smith but I am not positive on that, if you look for some recent interviews you'll find it, it's a pretty long chat.
The chills you get when dave is like “i dont want you to die, ok?”
We had a band called Love Meat Tender in a small city in northern Ontario. When we first heard Nirvana, we said, “We should be in Seattle!”…I’m older than a lot of you cats, but my epiphany into the alternative was the death of Ian Curtis of Joy Division and John Lennon. I couldn’t listen to anything other than new, obscure music after these two left us…I get how Cobain and his death affected the youth of his time.
Poor Dave. He has lost so many important people in his life.
Pat & Dave are both icons now, it's cool to hear the story from the people who lived it. Hopefully someday justice will be done for Kurt.
Oh yeah, justice of an addict who killed himself. Y’all non addicts need to quit acting like you think she killed him, just because you don’t understand the illness.
@@jackson.6282 wrong I was an addict and I totally believe he was killed
@@jackson.6282 Speak for yourself. I was on heroin/fentanyl for 7 years (among many other things for longer & I don't believe he killed himself... Glad you've given yourself the authority to speak on behalf of all addicts though.
@@jackson.6282 👈another bot made for a useless purpose to comment
@@angster4267 oh the irony . Look in the mirror dude🤣🤣🤣
so there was a message from Kurt to Pat, but the specifics of it he doesn’t divulge except for he needed help. sheesh
its nobodies fuckin business tho is it? His friend died ffs.
Bernie Whomever sheshh
Ripped Torn perfect answer sir👍
@@DrRawBalls_TheDummy He's clearly upset about it. Some people can seem flippant in public about very painful things because its too personal. You're familiar with the footage of McCartney being confronted about Lennon's death right? He's just like "yeah It's a drag" and walks away. That's an absolutely devastated person trying to hold it together on camera.
@@DrRawBalls_TheDummy go and fuck yourself
Dave’s drumming fit perfectly with Kurt’s songs. It propels them to a different level.
Any solid drummer could have done the job
@@chops4986 😂😂😂😂. Sure they could😂☘️☘️. Let me guess your a drummer??? Because all drummers have the same style 😂😂
@@jillliachris no. But I can play. I play guitar. And Dave’s drumming wasn’t special. Right place right time kind of thing. Sorry foo
@@chops4986 so no difference between drummers??? Just all human metronomes???? So anybody could have drummed for Rush or Zeppelin , if they can keep time. Who knew. The drummer has zero input in the sound of the band. Interesting
@@chops4986 his drumming didn’t need to be “ special “ It needed to fit into and work with the songs. Which it did.
It breaks my heart to see this and I cannot stop wondering if people could've said something to him that would've stopped him at the edge. It's so sad that even the existence of his daughter didn't... This is just so so sad, I start crying when I think about it.
It reminds me every time that when we tell people we love that we love them, it can shield them from so much, sometimes maybe even themselves💔
everyone has a creepy weird photoshop look in this
Lol they really do
Thought it was me on Pre Gablin lol as they can make folk look like CGI.
Andy Bowen Lyrica makes stuff look like cgi to you? That’s odd
It look like "Orton " photography effect to me
What a writer , what a voice , what a vibe , Nevermind was my the Sgt Peppers 25 years on , every line in Kurts songs provoke an original thought . A huge impact beyond words .
..dave always sounds like someone who really just misses his friend..
Very interesting ! Thanks a lot for sharing this ! Good job
We didn't want him to die either, Dave. God bless you for telling him. Sometimes that's all you can do. I would hug ya if I was there. And I didn't think you'd have me beaten and arrested.
Who had you beaten and arrested?
@@user1.8.2. Your mom
Scott D
I’m thinking you like the idea of being beaten.
KeckArmy and cuffed
Dave was the gas nirvana needed to grow
Right
“... needed to Grohl”
bullshit
commentator81 no you fucking loser
Victor Mindfield it’s true. Go watch the jonas bros
I used to sit in my room blaring Nirvana and crying to Kurt saying why . Why did u have to die. I envied him. I was mesmerized and in awe whenever he was on t.v. it's the most intense feeling I've ever had for another human being at that young age, and it still is! He was One of a kind. PERIOD! no one will ever come close to having such a dynamic sound and strong influence in rock music! I LOVE YOU KURT! ALWAYS HAVE ALWAYS WILL! SEE U IN ANOTHER LIFE I HOPE!
3:27 idk why but that bit got me.. he couldn’t handle it and I can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been for him, struggling with all the things going on in his life previously, using music an an escape but then it turning into a more complicated world for him. Rest easy kurt ❤
His.....wife.
Maybe he had some hesitation there because Courtney was volatile and doing hard drugs too. Not the best person to help his friend Kurt.
redruM
She deserves to rot in a prison cell
Dude it destroys me anymore. Will justice ever be served on this. We all know the truth. This bullshit has to stop.
I’ve heard it said that more songs have been written about Courtney Love than any other living person. Like every other musician from that era that came in contact with her had to write a song about the worst person in the world.
This is crazy but I was a complete mess and missed the whole Nirvana craze - These guys were an incredible talent, every one of them.
Why were you a mess?
Happened to me 3 times in my life.....busy working, got the messages too late. I try to always answer my phone now.
Thank you for this.
This is the most I've ever heard Dave talk about Kurt
Weird right?
He should've called novoselic.
@@Britton_Thompson That's so sad. I hope he didn't mean it.
@@darrenwhite9871 Unfortunately, I believe Kurt really did mean it by that point with everything that'd happened within Nirvana in the months preceding it
Maybe the drugs talking? I'm sure if his head was straight he would have apologized to Krist.
Britton Thompson Where did you get that info?
Silver Lake it wasn’t the drugs talking. You guys need to understand addiction. It was the fear of no drugs and being sick that Kurt was reacting to. That and frankly being bullied by his wife, bandmates and so called friends. Kurt wasn’t ready to quit and felt like he was being forced into it which is never the way to go. If you have a fragile sensitive soul like Kurt you have to go about it carefully and they failed big time. I get they were trying to help him but it blew up in their faces because they pushed this man to the brink. And don’t even get me started on Courtney. At best she pushed him to suicide and at worst....you know.
You can really tell how Dave was shaped by all the tragedy that surrounded Nirvana. Before he seemed to be more of a quiet guy and after Kurt's death he really went and poured his heart out on stage in front of the whole world. Takes a lot of courage to make such a transition from a quiet drummer to one of the biggest frontmen in rock, especially with all the expectations and harsh criticism from the Nirvana fans.
Let's hear it for the bass player, one of the few standout bassists in rock history. RIP Kurt, that inside voice when it hurts it hurts deeply. Blessed for the music its here forever.
Excellent investigation once again!
This is so sad listening too! Omg so sad. You can tell by the way that Dave and Pat speak of Kurt that they truely loved and cared for him. Love you Kurt
My sisters friend gave her a tape copy of Nevermind and when she would go visit her boyfriend I would go play it full volume with the windows open head banging and moshing alone in her room for the whole album :) I was eight
Poor Pat didnt realise how european hospitals with socialised healthcare dont work on the American 'I have more money and am more important than you' standard. He literally just gave his friends name and privacy away for nothing as he would have been dealt the same focus and priority as any other 20-something in trouble.
That was deep. Suicide hurts WAY more than just yourself. I know because my entire relation lost someone close to all of us this way when I was very young. I still struggle with it 30 years later
"They used to kick my f***in ass for listening to this music" 😂😂
Pat comes into to work quite often, he’s a super nice guy.
Comes into your work?
@@supernatural5354 yeah I work in a grocery store and he shops there all the time
@@grantmcmahon8735 That's cool
@@grantmcmahon8735 i always thought he was gay. Since u kind of know him is that accurate or am i way off on that?
@@jeffreyval9665 every time he's come in he's by himself, so to be honest I'm not too sure.
Everytime i watch any nirvana n kurt cobains interviews brings tears to my eyes thinking about him n his life. The man didn't found aperson to trust, to really talk to, didn't find a tiny amount of peace in his life but inspired us all. ✌✌🙏🙏🤘🤘⚘⚘⚘
Still they are famous in India.We like this pirticular band very much.
It's somewhat comforting to see how Dave and Pat cared for him. You can especially see it when Pat talks. Love these guys!!!
One thing I've always loved about Pat, is that throughout his entire career he's given the impression that he really loves what he does, and is generally just having a blast the whole time.
This was from a documentary that aired some years ago. Was very entertaining and I learned a lot about the band I didn't know. Was a sad but predictable end for such a talented group
Thanks alot Courtney!
Kurt was overwhelmed and how could you not be with that much success so fast? From what I’ve read he had some emotional trauma from when he was younger as well...heroin, trauma, crazy success=recipe for disaster but made for some incredible timeless music.
Dealing with a human being with so much mental and physical pain who is at the point where death is the only legitimate end to said pain, is impossible for those who can't comprehend what that kind of brutal, painful and life ending feeling can do to those who live with said pain every day til they die. Just like many situations in life.... If you have never experienced it, you will never fully and truly understand it!
I can't understand it, and I can only imagine what it would be like.
For sure, for sure. I’ve been in some low down situations but my thoughts always turn to my family. I can only think when someone is so mentally ill and depressed, thoughts of their family don’t come into it. Kurt was a really clever almost virtuoso like, making music at two years old. Even then he’s on tape at his aunts house talking to his imaginary friend Boda. I wouldn’t call him crazy but clearly the mental side which made him brilliant also gave him periods of dark thoughts. The same aunt said he recorded a song in his teens called seaside suicide. He clearly had a propensity for suicidal thoughts.
The physical pain, he suffered with bad stomach cramps n shit. On top of mental torture he was going through undiagnosed.
why does it matter if I understand it?
It doesn’t matter if you understand it, given Kurt had an imaginary friend and was prone to suicide from being a teen. I’d say most of us would have a hard time understanding it. In any case Kurt for all his brilliance was often hypocritical or naive re his quest for fame. I do understand how dealing with fame and all that it entails would be difficult.
The Germs and Nirvana both gave us so much. We miss and love you Kurt, Darby, Lorna and so many others that the list would just be to long. God bless you all.
I love your channel! Been watching for awhile but now I figured out why I couldn’t comment on anything 🤦🏼♀️😂🤘🏻
One thing stands out. Why are all of Kurt’s overdoses occurring when Courtney is with him. Why does this never happen when he’s on tour or elsewhere. Strange.
It did. He OD'd in France in 94 the first time he did heroin with Youri Lenquette's friends, he also OD'd in March after the intervention. He also supposedly OD'd in Dublin in 92 although many say it was methadone withdrawal. Heroin isn't that hard to find in Dublin and he was heavily into it at the time so I'd imagine the methadone withdrawal thing is just damage control for the press. Minders were hired to watch him afterwards in any case.
it did you just dont know very much
There’s an easy answer to your question: It’s a bad question. The question contains an incorrect assertion. Kurt did not in fact only overdose when in the presence of Courtney. Now you know. Let’s see if you change the incorrect stuff you post, or simply continue repeating the same false stuff.
Pat always puts a huge smile on my face. I love the germs. One of the most important of all my inspirations. The main reason why i started my own punk band. & it's crazy that nirvana was the way I found them.
Pat Smear is one of the great unsung heroes of music. Not a lot of people know who he is, and the more you know about him, the more impressed you are.
That's what Pat Smear's says about you Nirvana fans
I live just 5 minutes away from that hospital in rome and everytime i pass in front there my feeling is very bad and sad at the same time
So the title refers to the last 9 seconds of the video...
I will never forget Kurt I was so huge on him in Junior high School and still am to this day he why I pick up guitar and wanted to play I will never forget he's the resone I'm into music .
Man the guilt some of us get burdened with is almost too much to fathom.
🌼 Miss U forever 💔
4:37 poor Pat. You can tell that he is still so tormented by that decision. The press was such a negative force in Kurt’s life, and the last thing Pat wanted to do was subject him to more negative press. But he knew the drugs were an even larger threat.
I'm glad Butch said THEY had written some amazingly powerful songs . Yes Kurt had the guitar idea's & lyrics but from all accounts he didn't try to tell Krist & Dave how to play there parts. There parts are also awesome & very important to shaping the songs & they don't get enough credit. Most people think Kurt dictated everything & the other guys could have been anybody . BULLSHIT.
Diggerdog2nd
You are wrong.
Diggerdog2nd, Not to undermine Krist's, and Daves contributions to Nirvana however Kobain did in fact dictate how alot of the bass and drum parts were to be played, as he could play both, which is in part why the royalties were split 75% for Kurdt, and the remaining 25% was split between Dave and Krist. Though it was at Courtney's behest that Kurdt make said demand, as she's a greedy pig. Kurdt, quite literally, could have given two shits about the MONEY, the FAME, or the POWER! I mean c'mon the guy turned down a feature role in Cameron Crowe's SINGLES in '92, as well as, quite literally, MILLIONS of dollars to play LOLLAPALOOZA...
He just wanted to be with his lil' "BEAN", and move to a place where he could live like a "NORMAL PERSON". One of his favorite books was called Perfume, about a reclusive 'freak', who didn't want to be bothered, which, I imagine, is why the book spoke to him on a deeper level. We may never know what really happened to him, but LOVE did have ALOT to gain from his death. He wanted a divorce, and due to the prenup, Love wouldn't have seen cent 1 of his money, so she most likely had him wiped out to secure her financial future. Wouldn't be the first time someone 'got it' over money...
Especially NIRVANA MONEY! Talk about a bloody EMPIRE!!!
"Hey man, i dont want you to die"
Sometimes thats all it takes to keep a person alive. Sometimes it doesnt work, but you should always fucking say it.
Amazingly Powerful SONGS !!! I Loved High school Dances in 91 92 when Teen Spirit came on it was an energy you cant explain
dave grohl is one of the goats that’s overlooked. an amazing drummer for one of the biggest bands of all time that then made a new band that’s actually good
I too had a friend who reached out to me, leaving a message just days before he ODed and died. I wasn’t in a great place at the time, myself, so I didn’t even hear the message until after he passed away. Very sad, and it still hurts to this day.
Last 10 seconds: Finally addresses the MISSED call to Pat...
Cool clip but a bit clickbaity
I have so much respect for Pat Smear. First of all, he’s my Mom’s age, and I’m 38. I hope he plays with Foo Fighters forever. Secondly, to have gone through what he went through in such a short amount of time with Nirvana and Kurt, he’s a resilient man. Much respect for him.
Great video!
I still say courtney had something to do with his death.
robert valderaz i still do aswell, i always will, she is hiding something
I mean she was one of the biggest reason he committed suicide
Krazy 8 did he commit suicide or was it a setup
Naughty B true
F@ck yeah she did
I loved this documentary and gave me a lot of insight to Nirvana as well as Foo Fighters
Randy Cabbage - You hired someone to kill this documentary? Why?
What’s the name of the doc
God, I remember buying that Rolling Stone when it came out, and being excited by this new movement that was forming.
I eventually moved to Seattle at the very end of that scene, but it was, and is, a goddamned cool city.