The Wild Story on How Kurt Cobain hired his Punk Idol: Pat Smear
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Krist did not want to be a part and Dave did not to be a re made Nirvana.
Pat was a great fit for both bands
too many of his band mates died. from 3 of his major bands
In 1996 I was doing security at Hollywood Palladium outside of the parking lot and Foo Fighters we're playing that night and a cab pulls up and Pat Smear comes out. What a moment I will never forget
Pat Smear is the reason I got into Hagstrom guitars. I hope to get his signature model at some point
same
Don’t. It’s not worth the money. There are a lot of better hagstrom’s for less cash
I'm a Fender guy. Kurt had the right idea. I do like the vintage look of the Hagstrom but Fenders can have a vintage look too and typically play and sound better.
Yeah those look sweet
He already got a signature dude!! Check it out
Never heard anyone say anything bad about Pat. It’s unanimous, he’s legit!
You weren't around on UA-cam in 2008, then? I saw people complaining about Pat back then. Not all the time, but it was like they thought he was an insult to Kurt that he was there. But it's been a long time since I saw any of that.
I remember one particular complaint under the footage for the rehearsals to the Unplugged show, when Pat reminded Kurt about something or other. Never mind (no pun intended) that Pat's literally older than Kurt, *and* that Kurt wanted Pat in the band - none of these facts entered an irritated mind that decided to say its words and express its anger.
I never got bothered by Pat being in Nirvana, myself.
Lol Pat Smear actually was punk rock, Kurt Cobain was trying to BE Pat Smear. Its offensive to Pat to have to come and carry a show for yet another smack head
Pat talks like one of the rainbow brigade.
@@Euphoriasmotion2011 Creatives used to get pass on that. Now it's all just sus.
Pat Smear is an amazing guitar player. Kurt heard Pat's solo album from 1992 "So You Fell In Love with a Musician" and quickly offered him the job. Go check it out if any of you are interested.
I didn't even know he had a solo album. Will def check it out. Thx!
I will =)
That’s interesting, I had heard that Courtney had set it up because she was good friends with Pat. He was working at a record store in L.A. at the time and she got Kurt to make the call to ask him to join.
@@WoodenCrates1that's what I heard in the above video as well. They already knew of Pat and Kurt was talking about bringing back a 2nd guitarist. At @ that time, Courtney and Pat were, "Punk Rock Extras" in the same production. While on said set, Courtney got talking to Pat and Courtney said herself, (In the above video) it was one of those moments where Nirvana was looking and Pat could be their guy and she facilitated the start of Pat's involvement in Nirvana.
it is truly a remarkable piece of art, too bad he gave up doing solo stuff after joining big bands
"But most of them were junkies. He's still alive?? I met Pat smear. When I was living in Los Angeles. And instantly fell in love with him very rarely do I meet someone that I like so much right away."
-Kurt Cobain
"It was all thanks to me." -Courtney Love
"Last night was awesome".
-Your Mother
I like pat smear alot really showed how powerful nirvana could be and having a punk legend didnt hurt either too bad they never could record a album
He was hired before they recorded in utero, he’s on the record
@@wildguccijax3862 not true.
Agreed, I think they could have had a handful of good albulms with Pat.
@@wildguccijax3862 No he was hired before they RELEASED In Utero, which happened 6 months after it was recorded because of "this is not Nevermind vol 2" record label drama.
I saw them with Pat twice and the sound was great.
Pat makes every band he plays in sound stronger, richer and better..
I liked his backing vocals on Heart Shaped Box live.
I figure Pat is happy. Gets to play guitar in cool bands. Makes good money. Bummer he lost 2 friends. Glad he is ok.
Pat Smear is the coolest person on earth. Dave Grohl said so and it’s the truth.
I like Pat , hes a very humble "rockstar"
Pat remembers hearing about what David Crosby said after watching the Beatles movie "A Hard Day's Night" with the other guys in the Byrds and then saying "that looks like a good job." Before that time, playing in a band wasn't much of a Life choice, but after the Beatles, there was an explosion of Rock Bands in the US(and the rest of the world).
Now young folks plan to be musicians, and have grown up planning to be stars, without many knowing what's involved. Pat is just glad to work; his time in the Germs was a different era and he knows he's lucky to be alive.
I went to the Foo Fighters's concert in Riga, Latvia almost in the first line. Then I saw Pat Smears, the happiest person that I have seen on any stage in any concert. Such a vibe that he was transmitting I have seen in no one else. Since then I have been one of his biggest fans not only for his way of playing but for his way of being!
A at teenager when Smear joined I knew nothing about where he came from, or his history, but he fit on right away. He seemed to be a perfect fit for the band.
I grew up playing on the same circuit with Pat. We played with the Germs more than any other band at that time. So awesome to see how far he's come! ❤️🦠
what band were you in?
The “Don’t Speak” video was after Cobain died.
Dont queef
@@Raw-guitar😂🤢
Yeah so that would’ve been him going back to what he was doing as opposed to being the illustration of what he had been doing.
UA-cam timeline.
What was the point/purpose of him being in a No Doubt homoerotic dream sequence? I didn’t even know he was in The Nirvana Band. I got into all of Pat’s SST stuff being a huge fan of Celebrity Skin(hence Gary Jacoby - the other half of Deathfolk). It was my understanding that Dave was going to have a major role in songwriting, singing, and playing guitar for The Nirvana Band(due to the impression his solo Pocketwatch cassette demo made on the other band members), while Kurt would become the drummer and occasionally sing. I also heard C.Love wanted Kurt to leave The Nirvana Band to start a duo with Michael Stipe, something in the vein of Deathfolk. Gone too soon, it was such a great time. Almost a decade… I love you Kurt. Rest well in Nirvana, sweet Prince.
When Pat first joined Nirvana I saw it as a maturation of the band and I remember always enjoying his short time with them, mainly in the MTV Unplugged set and the 1993 New Year's Eve concert. Rock on.
Pat’s guitar riffs in the Germs were unique and outstanding. As in Nirvana and the Foo’s, I can often hardly recognize the sound of his guitar, tho…
I met Pat after a Foo Fighters show in 1995. He was super nice, and was wearing green sparkle nail polish. 😊
Thats Pat Smear for you. A Feminine Flamboyant Rizzler!
Me too, on that first tour. Pat and Dave. I met Pat again at one of the reformed Germs shows maybe 12 years ago. Both times he was friendly and nice.
He has the nicest guitar in Unplugged. Great video.
The Rumanian flag guitar
Very cool history man! Thanks!
Imagine the unplugged album without pat...best album EVER
I wish we’d seen a nirvana album with pat. He’s just a nice dude aswell as an amazing musician.
Pat is the goat, a legend in every band he’s been in.
New sub! Thanks for the fresh outlook on rock history!
Thanks for the sub!
Pat is amazing.
I was so stoked when he joined Nirvana.
Same here. I loved The Germs and Nirvana. Live and loud was great. I must've watched it hundreds of times by now. Great musician.
One of the funniest and coolest rock guys for sure, one heck of a player 🔥
If Pat Smear had never joined Nirvana, it might’ve been cool to see Steve Albini play with them. Kurt was headed in a more abrasive/noise Rock direction at the end, and Steve is a master of that kind of guitar work. I think Smear was the guy, but that would also have been interesting
except Steve was not a big fan. He had heard of a lot of these kinds of bands. (that's right! most people who only listen to the radio would never hear)
Also, Steve Albini was in all the bands that the grunge bands copied in the 80's so yeah, he probably would have been bored as hell
Great Video
Dix Denney would have been a perfect for Nirvana. One of the most underrated guitar players to come out of the LA punk scene
Hell yeah. The Weirdos were the best.
The Weirdos are one of the most overlook bands that came out of the LA Punk scene
Pat is one of those musicians you always need around.
I think Pat should had never left In the first place but it is what it is keep on rocking !!!
Start with the Germ’s “Live at the Whiskey,” and you can actually listen to them all learn how to play. Darby’s lyrics were excellent from record #1 onward
If it hadn't been Smear, I think Joey Santiago from Pixies would have made some killer leads in Nirvana. Or Darrell Herbert, who played lead on the Possum Kingdom album by toadies.
Nice one
Not only the colour, but the shape as well.
Love your Chanel friend.
The question should be, if Kurt asked buzz Osborne to be second guitarist in nirvana, what would be buzz’s reaction.
I was in a nirvana tribute band. I played pat. Loved it. Got paid well, but broke my leg jumping off the stage
What do you think of Elvana?
Talk about being in the right place at the right time. Imagine being in a band like that for almost 6 months and being able to live off that the rest of your life.
There is so much wrong with this piece. So much. Most notably the omission that Kurt wanted Pat because of his work with legendary band The Germs, not because of Courtney Love's recommendation.
Pat Smear recorded with hole and Courtney before Nirvana. So why cant both be true
Pat do not needed any audition for 'legendary' Nirvana 'cause Nirvana members considered the Germs more legendary than anyone..
I got to meet Pat Smear in Seattle when i was young and of course i was obsessed with The Germs and Nirvana 😂❤ He was in Fred Meyers of all places.
You forgot the Germs reboot with Shane West. I got the chance to see them and they were awesome!!
"Boof Rider " is now the name of my new band!
😂 I remember when Pat showed up, I was like, "who's this extra dude??🤨" 😂🤷♂️ 🤷🏽♂️
He was a punk rock legend carrying the guitar in the band of an MTV darling, that's who the extra guy was
@@neilpatrickhairless like thirty years later, thank you so much. Perfect timing.
For the longest time, we've heard that Kurt saw Pat working in a record store & asked him to join.
Every music enjoyer needs to hear the germs 🔥
Awesome video dude. There is just one indiscretion I feel needs to be corrected. When Pat left the first time, it was because Dave had been dating Louise Post (well after his divorce from Jennifer Youngblood) of Veruca Salt fame (incidentally she provided background vocals on everlong). Anyhow Dave found himself getting very intimate with Winona Ryder & decided that he would break things off with Louise so he could pursue a relationship with Ryder. Except Dave thought that doing so over a long distance phone call would be sufficient. Pat was good friends with Louise & was none to impressed with Dave’s “horny teenage schoolboy antics” & sided with Post over the whole ordeal, also prompting Pat’s decision to leave the Foo Fighters.
Everything else is spot on the money dude 😉
Good work man, keep making informative & interesting content like this & your subscriber numbers are sure to keep growing
🤘
Nothing can be as good as a Pap Smear
Hahahahaha
3:33 Holy Sheep! 🤣Can u imagine Smear playing John Frusciante's parts?
Bob Mould of Husker Du / Sugar would have been a great fit.
He never would have put up with it at that point in his life.
Kurt said he ran into him in LA (I think) he said then Kurt called him up later and asked if he wanted to be in the band.
Courtney had nothing to do with it.
Although yes Pat did think the call was a joke, per Pat.
You think so, huh?
What is the song that's playing in the first minutes of the video. It's either a version of something or it is something that I can't put my finger on, it reminds me of something! I don't know somebody please tell me what it is. It kind of reminds me of the song Gone by Pearl Jam
When I first saw pat on unplugged I was like what the hell did they stop by the Home Depot and pick up a guitarist on the way
Big improvement quality wise on the video production! To answer your question: I recently read J Mascias from Dinosaur apparently was offered the job twice @ different points before Kurt met Pat, so I've always wondered what could've been if he & Kurt had the chance to write together... (If you ever need someone to help work on editing or whatever hit me up, I'm starting my own channel about Nirvana bootlegs)
I think that Mascias would have been too much talent crammed into one spot. Plus, as cool as J is...I dunno. He's J. He kinda walks around in a coma of some sort.
Yes there’s a reason j. Didn't accept it.. he just had to do his own thing. He would have been limited with nirvana... and if nirvana gave Him total freedom... it wouldnt be nirvana anymore...
Doesn't help that J. Mascis is a better guitarist than Kurt, a better bassist than Krist and at least as good at drums as Dave Grohl is. Would be like Van Halen hiring Sammy Hagar
If Pat smear had never joined Nirvana Buzz Osborne, Greg Hetson, Rikk Agnew, Kelley Deal, Kim Shattuck would have been great options.
I really liked Nirvana as a three piece. When they became a four piece I felt like they lost some of that raw, visceral energy they had. Nothing against Smear.
Listen to the howl during drain you france tv 1994. Itll change your mind.
Kinda agree
They were usually awful live.
Guy Piccioto from Fugazi --top energy performer... Greg Sage from Wipers,,top stage presence but too leader...any from Buzzcocks, top rhythm punk guitars.. nah actually can't think in any better..PAt is the equivalent to Mike Watt, pure energy and passion and coolness. to carry a whole band. God bless them
2:12 she's actually talking about a "Germs burn" basically The Germs became so notorious in the LA hardcore scene that Darby Crash and later the rest of the band decided to burn their cigarettes on the arms of everyone who was close to them. These people include the likes of Ron Reyes of Black Flag and Keith Morris of the Circle Jerks
HUGE INSPIRATION AND INFLUENCE IN OUT BAND
Imagine if pat could actually play....he might be a real star then.
Pat is a legend
Not to be confused with his more invasive and helpful brother PAP smear....
I never thought of or considered Pat as being a good guitar player. He sticks to mainly barre chords and doesn't do leads. You don't have to do leads as a rhythm guitarist, but to know how to phrase helps, which is a big part of playing lead. I think due to the 25th anniversary of Nevermind's release with how the band kept gravitating towards female artist, perhaps Jane Wiedlin, Charlotte Caffey (both from the Go-Go's, which has a former Germs member in it), or Vicki Peterson from The Bangles.
Yeah, punk and grunge players don't do leads. That was the whole point, to make fun of the metalheads and proggers 🤣
Smear might be the luckiest man in rock. Plucked from obscurity not once, not twice, but three times.
The only luckiest guy I can think of might be Ozzy Osbourne.
Germs weren't obscure lol they used to sell Germs tshirts in Rockabilia ffs
I thought people were calling him Pap smear. Like it was his nickname 🤣
That's a 70's 80's punk thing to have a pun as a stage name
Pat Smear
Lee Ving
Rockets Redglare
Etc
IMO, lots of guitarists could have played those parts. What Kurt was looking for was someone who brought him balance. "If you dont want to get disposed of, be indisposable"
He also wanted someone with punk/underground cred. Kurt wanted success but he didn't want the kind of success they got. He didn't want the shows to be full of average MTV viewers who came to see "Smells Like Teen Spirit", he wanted the shows to be filled with fans that understood them and connected with the music, not their video on MTV, the kind of fans that a band like the Germs had, just on a bigger level.
Imagine a 2 guitar Nirvana album like Siamese Dream.
Eddie Van Halen would have been a good fit. Just to see Kurt in pure misery.
Weird. No mention about Pat in the Raspberry Beret video.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Pat’s backing vocal work. He does excellent work. Like the high notes on Pennyroyal Tea f example.
Smear, cobain and grohl got me into grunge
i wanna hear the 'COLOR and THE SHAPE ' with Will on drums and see how different it is
Probably terrible
Rolled my eyes at that narrator blunder too
David Michael Anthony is a great vocalist/guitarist
Carlos Nunez looks exactly like Mike ness. Mind blown
I just thought the same thing
That because it is Mike ness.
It is Mike Ness that’s why
@@brodave17 no shit Sherlock
Haha .. I was scrolling hoping to find this tidbit
Robert Roth from Truly, Steve Turner from Mudhony, Gregg Duuli from Afghan Wiggs and possibly Kurt Bloch from the Fastbacks. They would all be suitable replacements if Pat didn't join.
Dulli wouldn’t have worked. He’s a great front man himself, and his style is too different from anything Nirvana did.
@@tommyapocalypse6096 I agree with you 50% only because the guitar work in Nirvana wasn't the most challenging and could be easily immitated. I think anyone who could play well could be a candidate.
Should have mentioned that Darby Crash also died by suicide
Please, tell that nearly unknown story about how Pat Smear visited Tom Grant just a bit after Kurt’s death to ask what he was trying to discover, and how Pat is one of the oldest and closest Courtney Love friends (in spite of playing in Foo Fighters, the band of someone who, allegedly, deeply dislikes her).
Go see the Foo live if you havent. It felt like being on a permanent high for a month. It was incredible
I never hear anyone else bring up his name. There's gotta be someone who finds it funny, also.
haha thanks to the subtitles im forever gonna call them the ''Boof Riders'' now
Grohl didn’t pick Pat over Krist… they play different instruments…
I know. That was odd.
The video doesn't mention it, but I think Dave said somewhere he wanted them both until he realized it would just be seen as Nirvana 2.
4:23 Yeah I heard Pat got the call for RHCP after Frusciante quit in 92 & supposedly had said "yeah, I'll join, as long as you stop playing funk"... 🤣
lol ,never heard that one . glad john got it together though
@@danielhall-wl4ql I know right? The music he made in the years immediately after getting sober is nearly all masterpiece level. Used to help me believe anything was possible... Now that I'm going through a similar process (cleaning up) I wake up everyday full of doubt & fear about my future
Eugene Kelly may have been an alternative to Pat - he was from the Vasalines - I saw him open for Nirvana in '93 with his band Eugenius.... and original song writer for "Molly's Lips"...
He's mostly known for his time in the germs
He’s mostly known as a guitarist for the foo fighters.
I never knew that Pat was asked to join RHCP😮
what song did u use for ur background in the beginning
Big Jon from the Exploited he worked with Kurt as a tech I believe so I feel like if Pat had not joined perhaps Big John
Suzi Gardner from L7 could’ve been a good choice!
There's a story that mike McCready from pearl jam reach Cobain and ask that he hears Cobain and vedder will make a record together. McCready says that he want to join them as a lead guitar .Then cobain said, " we will talk about that in other days" .
Kurt hated Pearl Jam
If Pat didn't join Nirvana, Kurt said in the Come As You Are book he regretted not hiring Ben Shepherd (who later joined Soundgarden as bassist) when they could around 1990.
I always thought it would've been interesting to have Taylor on drums,and kurt and Dave on guitar.
Kurt wouldn’t have liked Taylor’s drumming
@@breakbad9753 How do you know?
I love Pat’s personality and history. The saddest part about Nirvana is that Kurt and Pat never got the chance to write new music together.
Forgive Kurt for what he did, or blame Courtney.
Also, I’d use the service advertised, but they do not allow you to do vocals over the tracks and I’m not technically informed enough to know how to chop things up in a computer program. I’m just a vocalist and singing like Kurt Cobain is a tenuous release for me.
Gary Lee Conner from screaming trees would have been a nice fit
10:59 ..... Me..😅. We had a Nirvana, Grunge band at high school.
In Utero has 'complex' guitar parts? When? The hardest thing would be to try the chaos parts on Milk It not for note.
We always talk about Dave but losing two vocalists prematurely would hit hard for Pat...
Foo fighters too, he lost Taylor Hawkins. Pats never been big on drugs or alcohol either he's like the calm center of all the bands he's in.
Bet none of the germs ever thought in 1978 they would have a film about them, and one of the band would be a milliionaire rock star
Kurt Cobain said he wanted a 2nd guitarist just to make it easier on him, singing and playing the leads he did play...
Who could have replaced Pat in the beginning? Someone else as famous as Pat that is so humble there are no “Pat Smear Soloing” videos on UA-cam except for when he played the original MTV riff as a joke. I can’t think of any off hand.
He filled in for Frusciante of Chili Peppers back in 93 for Lollapalooza. I was pissed there was no John but Pat filled in really good! My childhood did not crumble.
That was Arik Marshall.
If you tell me to "stay tuned" you know I'm closing the tab as fast as possible.