S&B Intake for the Toyota 4Runner: Initial Review and How it Sounds
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- In this video we give our initial review of the S&B Filters' Cold Air Intake for the 5th Generation (2010-2021) Toyota 4Runner. Special thanks to TRD Jon for selling me his used intake. You can see what he replaced it with on his channel.
TRD Jon - / @trdjon
The version we have is the 1st version. The new version is on their website now...
www.sbfilters.com/cold-air-in...
**UPDATE: S&B's website shows the new version as "Shipping Soon"**
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Amazing video as always guys!!!! Glad you all are enjoying it! Nice catch Mark 🤣
Thanks again for helping us get this! Yeah. it was supposed to hit my back. Oops!!! LOL
Well that beats amazon prime shipping.. 😂
Personalized Shipping by Jon LOL
Nice vid. I've got the same version. The mounting holes were a PITA, but I got it to fit. Love the throaty sounds.
Yeah, we ran into some trouble with that as well, but the end result is fantastic. I'm seriously considering upgrading to the new version this year just for the smaller box.
WOW UA-cam, your algorithms are really smart. I watched TRD JON videos early today and was wondering what happened to the package that he threw from his driveway... Now I know where his package landing 🤣🤣
YEP! Jon and I had been talking back and forth while I was waiting for S&B Filters to release the newer version, and that's how we "landed" here. (pun intended)
I'm sure this has been in the works but I would also consider Horsepower altitude loss where you live up where I am it's 3000+ feet so my loss is from 275hp to 240-ish lmao
I love TRD Jon!
He's good people.
Moral of the story is a tune is more helpful then just an after market air intake or even after market exhaust
Truth. ...and every modification should be had with a way to tune your system to accommodate that modification.
Did you ever get this tuned? Would be curious to hear an update from you on it.
Great video! Sounds super!!! Do any of these work or fit in a 2007 fj cruiser? And which make is it for if so? Thanks!
I think on the FJ Cruiser, S&B Filters has a newer model that fits properly under the hood. I would definitely go with that.
Great, detailed video. Thanks!
What ECU tuning product are y’all planning to experiment with? The only option I’m aware of for custom tuning is OVTune’s vForest software, and that’s beta.
The ECU tune is custom from Diesel Toys here in San Antonio. We haven't had a chance to follow up with them, but we intend to soon.
@@TrailorSailYT Any update yet?
@@hawaiiantactical9468 we had the guys at Diesel Toys confirm our ECU tune, but they don't have one specific to this intake. We also recently regeared the 4Runner from 3.73 gears to 4.56 gears from Nitro Gear. So, our current ECU tune is completely wrong. We are in talks with some of our friends with OV Tunes about looking into that possibility as well. For now, the fuel economy is pretty much the same, but the get-up-and-go is fantastic.
Great video,. Wich intake do you recommend. Looking at all options on stock 4runner
Honestly the only two that I have experience with (other than stock) are the K&N Drop-In and the S&B Filters. I love the S&B Filters intake. So, of course, that is my recommendation.
I got worried when you said they no longer make this. However, im looking at the site and they have one for sale. Did they stop making them and then start again or are they making a different one for the 4runner and Fj now?
Yep! They stopped making this version in 2019 and the new (and better in my opinion) version came out in late 2020. I have heard nothing but good reviews on the revised version. I am thinking about getting it myself.
What are your thoughts on filter now ?
I like S&B intake sound. Definitely would look into a electronic tune. It's amazing how much horsepower you can get through a computer. Best bang for the buck in my opinion. We been playing around with computer tuning on our semi trucks. We went from 475 horsepower to 600 just by flashing the files. Added a stage 2 Borg Warner turbo and a C-18 800+ horsepower cam which isn't cheap. That computer file added more horsepower per dollar than the cam and turbo. Flashing the computer $500. Turbo $2400 and C-18 cam $1000. Biggest gains were through the computer. I like your heritage grill. Different than everyone else. I want to do something different myself. Where can I get a grill and bar without holes for lettering?
Definitely biggest gains are with retuning on the programming. I really want to get into that this year.
The grill garnish is from trailstandardoffroad.com and the TOYOTA symbol is from the tailgate of the 2nd Generation Tacomas - just painted gray.
Did you guys ever do the update video like you had mentioned? I can’t seem to find it?
Not yet... Unfortunately other projects became a higher priority. We will be doing an update once we retune the engine parameters for the new intake. ...considering getting the new intake box as well since the lid is easier to deal with. Cheers!
@@TrailorSailYT totally get it! I’ll keep an eye for an update. Thanks for the reply.
This is an older video, but I just stumbled upon this.
Two questions: 1), does this help with low RPM torque? The constant downshifting whenever I approach anything resembling a grade has gotten very annoying. (And I am on stock size tires). These things have plenty of HP, in my opinion the problem is that the torque is at the wrong end of the RPM range.
2) at higher RPMs, does the intake noise cover up the sound of the engine? I find the amount of engine noise that intrudes into the cabin to be irritating, as to me it is not pleasant sounding at all.
These are my two big issues with my 5th gen, I'm looking into possible aftermarket options to try to address these issues before I resort to just selling it and getting something with a better powertrain.
So, we tried this intake, a K&N filter before this, a throttle controller, an engine retune, and finally regeared to 4.56:1 Nitro Gears... While everything before it helped in one way or another, the 4.56 gears ended up being the solution too the transmission hunting and downshifting. Fair warning though - our overall fuel economy went down... We are working to find a solution to that soon... probably going to retune the engine computer.
@@TrailorSailYT thanks for the info. I'll try the throttle controller, but maybe not waste money on the other stuff. Regearing is out of the question from a financial standpoint. Maybe if I had plans to go to larger tires eventually.
From what I've read, these engines can't be "tuned", the ECU won't allow it. Which is a shame, I hear the OV tune works wonders for the 3.5 in the Taco.
I guess supercharging is really the only solution for the 4.0. (Also financially out of the question)
@@trailrunnah8886 Yep. Sounds like you are in the same boat we were in a year ago.
The iDrive throttle controller has been fantastic, but it doesn't do anything for power - just response.
As for the Nitro Gears 4.56 kits, we got a discount on the gears and the labor from local shops that helped us out. I'm in the process of making a video about the regear right now.
Supercharging would be nice, but I don't want the cost, the complexity, or to deal with premium fuel costs and availability.
As for ECU Tuning... we had a tune/reprogram done last year by a local shop that specializes in Toyota ECUs for Diesel engines. The tune was great until we regeared... now it shifts too soon. OV Tune does have a tune for the 4Runner they are working on. That's probably going to be your best bet (give it a few more months).
We may be trying to go the OV Tune route if they have a tune specific to the 4.56 gears.
@@TrailorSailYT I'm looking forward to the regear video! I think that's a great option, especially if going with larger tires and one has the budget, haha. I'm going to give one of the throttle controllers a try, everybody that has used it speaks very highly of them, I've never heard anybody say they used, it hated it, and took it off. Of course everyone that's never used one has a lot to say about it, such as "just press the pedal harder". Well, I've started to just put it to the floor, and that still doesn't really do the trick.
The other thing I'm kind of mulling over is changing Vehicles. I've been looking at GMT800 SUVs, the 2000-2006 Tahoe/Suburbans with the 5.3 V8, and those are a steal. Plus I could probably buy three or four of them for what my 2013 4Runner is still worth, LOL.
It's a tough decision though, because the 4Runner suits my needs very well. Oh well, decisions decisions haha.
@@trailrunnah8886 I absolutely loved my 1994 Suburban that I bought from my parents. 2WD and tons of capabilities. That being said, I don't think I could give up my 4Runner. LOL Definitely give the throttle controllers a go, and maybe keep your ears open for the upcoming OV Tunes as well.
Did it improve mileage?
Wait a minute, how do you have a drivers side grab handle!?
MAJIK... :) Not really. There is a guy on T4R.org that sells a kit to help you add one to your 4Runner. I helped him prototype the concept, and this is Prototype #2 - Its been in my 4Runner for 5 years with no issues.
I haven't kept in touch very well with Jason since I haven't been active on Social Media much, but you should be able to reach out to him at:
Jasontamu2002@gmail.com
Here is a thread showing the install: www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/272353-drivers-side-%C2%93%C2%94-pillar-grip-handle-installed-2014-t4r.html
Any updates to buy or not to buy?
I dont want an oiled filter.
Do you have to retune engine for this unit?
We have not done the retune yet. We are hoping to do that in the upcoming months, but several other projects became a higher priority. We will be doing an update once that happens. S&B does offer a non-oiled filter for the new version of this intake. Cheers!
@@TrailorSailYT thank you looking foward to it
I have been using the new version for a year now and I would recommend it. S&B sells a dry filter as well that you can get when you buy the intake or separately later on which I just did and will be switching to the dry filter soon. I didn't have any problems with the oiled filter I just prefer a dry filter as it is easier to clean, and their dry filters are still supposed to last over 30,000 miles with a yearly cleaning. You don't have to get a retune...like i said i've been running it for a year in my 2019 and have never gotten a CEL or found it acting strange or off in any way. Increased mpg, nice sound, and a bit more grunt from 3-5k rpm
Did it hurt!!!!
I thought they discontinued it already
Nope. The latest update is that they will be shipping the updated version out again soon.
I got no throttle response after install and check engine light
What was the issue?
@@Mike-cu6gk
For some
Reason my throttle
Position sensor went out on the throttle pedal side.
And needed a new one.
@@p.k.808 thank you for the reply. So it had nothing to do with the cold air flow intake?
@@Mike-cu6gk
No, when I spoke to s&b rep he said with “Toyota” sometimes the computer has to relearn the maf reading, and it will kick itself into limp mode. And that cycling the key multiple times will make it relearn itself and kick out of limp mode.
I made the effort for 2 days disconnecting the battery, starting the truck multiple times, to no avail.
So I took it in and the check engine code was for the TPS sensor and it needed to be replaced for the truck to have throttle again.
This happened to my 2018 4runner with less than 40,000 miles…..
@@p.k.808 well glad it worked out unfortunately you had to spend some money but it could always be worse.
so im assuming you live in SA? lol
They are legal n other state rt
I do not know the answer to that, but I'm sure S&B can tell you more.
So basically there is absolutly no bennifit to putting on a $400 dollar CAI
Without proper tuning, any modification to this drivetrain is going to have minimal to no effect.
@@TrailorSailYT proper tuning .....like putting turbo or super charger on.....other wise that CAI doesn't do nothing more than loud noises. You will get zero performance from a CAI without something jamming air down that throttle body
@Chano Leyva 100% true and you can't find anything proving me wrong except the bullshit from the guys selling that shit to you....Unless you have a turbo or a super charger then you just got ripped off for 400 bucks. If those CAI really do what they say they can then they would come stock on all cars
The stock intake is CAI…..really the only difference is the deletion of the two attenuators, thus all these really do is make the vehicle louder with almost zero measurable air flow or power increase….waste of money, unless you like the noise.