I'm really excited to watch all of these! I know you're a great student of Ammon, and because of that a more skilled and objective researcher than I am lol! I'm excited to see your discovered connections as I am looking to see what connections do/don't exist between the European, Etruscan, Greek, or Abrahamic traditions because all of my "phenomenal" personal experiences have been with what I have narrowed down to be possibly Cernnunos or Ginnungagap, and the Vanir, or fates...
@@ajclmt hi there, great to see you here and great to see you have found the channel through Ammon! Pleased do let me know your thoughts once you have watched through the series, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Thanks again and all the best, Auld Boy.
The main thing I noticed when looking into this god is that what we have written on Etruscan religion & myths shows they really liked taking names of the gods from all the cultures around them who were deemed similar to their own via interpretario & using them as titles for their own gods. It creates confusion when we only have one or two examples of a known name for a specific god or term- like Ais for their gods, or them calling their moon goddess Tivr, which looks suspiciously similar to Tiw, aka Tyr. From what they claim of their origins, their ancestors came to Italy from the west via sea voyage, which makes their origins even more mysterious. If they'd come from the east, I would automatically assume they were related to the Illyrians. From the west, they could be Celts, from Sardinia, Corsica or Malta or even relatives of the Basques. Maybe even ancient North Africans. But, I have seen some things brought up in relation to Etruscan mythology that tell me that, whenever we do figure it out, it might be a treasure trove of comparative archaeology for Germanic peoples. There is a recorded myth about a seer/ diviner who carries a severed head around in a bag with him that aids him in his prophetic power. That sounds like it derived from the same source as the myth of Odin & Mimir. Hell, we might finally begin to get clearer answers on who Tyr actually is, if they clearly free associated him with at least one of their gods.
Yes they definitely seemed happy to incorporate Herakles and the like. I actually saw a source from Strabo which says they were Tyrrhenians which travelled from Lydia: " The Tyrrheni, then, are called among the Romans "Etrusci" and "Tusci". The Greeks, however, so the story goes, named them thus after Tyrrhenus, the son of Atys, who sent forth colonists hither from Lydia: At a time of famine and dearth of crops, Atys, one of the descendants of Heracles and Omphale, having only two children, by a casting of lots detained one of them, Lydus, and, assembling the greater part of the people with the other, Tyrrhenus, sent them forth. And when Tyrrhenus came, he not only called the country Tyrrhenia after himself, but also put Tarco in charge as "coloniser," and founded twelve cities; Tarco, I say, after whom the city of Tarquinia70 is named, who, on account of his sagacity from boyhood, is said by the myth-tellers to have been born with grey hair." Geography 5.2.2 The really interesting thing is the Norse were practicing divination with runes in the same way as the etruscans..even in the Cleasby and Vigfusson old norse dictionary..it says "like the Latin Sortes" which is derived from the Etruscan Sors. The same lexicon also says the word Rune is comparable to μυστηριον or mystery..which is directly connected to the mystery rites. To top it off the word Volva is often translated as Sibyl and the C+V lexicon says the same. In the prologue to the prose edda, snorri says the Aesir were in Troy and headed to thrace where Thor met a Sibyl. One of the other norse texts even puts the Aesir in Idavoller or the plane of Ida..mount Ida is very close to Troy. Ive got all the sources pulled together in this series, so I hope you are able to watch them and let me know your thoughts afterward! Thanks for watching and for leaving your thoughts!
It apparently has some connotations in Sanskrit as well! The more I see the more I feel like there is no such thing as coincidence! Cheers for leaving your thoughts and thanks for watching.
this was fire!
Thank you Neal, I really appreciate you taking the time to check it out. I’m pleased you enjoyed it 😊👌
Bravo! You have such thorough information and sources, it’s a privilege to benefit from your works of historical artistry.
Thank you Kari, it took a long time piecing together the sources. Thanks for the kind comment and for the continued support 😊👌
I'm really excited to watch all of these! I know you're a great student of Ammon, and because of that a more skilled and objective researcher than I am lol! I'm excited to see your discovered connections as I am looking to see what connections do/don't exist between the European, Etruscan, Greek, or Abrahamic traditions because all of my "phenomenal" personal experiences have been with what I have narrowed down to be possibly Cernnunos or Ginnungagap, and the Vanir, or fates...
@@ajclmt hi there, great to see you here and great to see you have found the channel through Ammon! Pleased do let me know your thoughts once you have watched through the series, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Thanks again and all the best, Auld Boy.
Great video making skills awesome work my friend
Wow.
Very nice video. Thank you.
Thank you for watching this series. I put a lot of time and effort into the research and making it. So it means a lot to me. Thank you.
The main thing I noticed when looking into this god is that what we have written on Etruscan religion & myths shows they really liked taking names of the gods from all the cultures around them who were deemed similar to their own via interpretario & using them as titles for their own gods. It creates confusion when we only have one or two examples of a known name for a specific god or term- like Ais for their gods, or them calling their moon goddess Tivr, which looks suspiciously similar to Tiw, aka Tyr. From what they claim of their origins, their ancestors came to Italy from the west via sea voyage, which makes their origins even more mysterious. If they'd come from the east, I would automatically assume they were related to the Illyrians. From the west, they could be Celts, from Sardinia, Corsica or Malta or even relatives of the Basques. Maybe even ancient North Africans.
But, I have seen some things brought up in relation to Etruscan mythology that tell me that, whenever we do figure it out, it might be a treasure trove of comparative archaeology for Germanic peoples. There is a recorded myth about a seer/ diviner who carries a severed head around in a bag with him that aids him in his prophetic power. That sounds like it derived from the same source as the myth of Odin & Mimir. Hell, we might finally begin to get clearer answers on who Tyr actually is, if they clearly free associated him with at least one of their gods.
Yes they definitely seemed happy to incorporate Herakles and the like. I actually saw a source from Strabo which says they were Tyrrhenians which travelled from Lydia:
" The Tyrrheni, then, are called among the Romans "Etrusci" and "Tusci". The Greeks, however, so the story goes, named them thus after Tyrrhenus, the son of Atys, who sent forth colonists hither from Lydia: At a time of famine and dearth of crops, Atys, one of the descendants of Heracles and Omphale, having only two children, by a casting of lots detained one of them, Lydus, and, assembling the greater part of the people with the other, Tyrrhenus, sent them forth. And when Tyrrhenus came, he not only called the country Tyrrhenia after himself, but also put Tarco in charge as "coloniser," and founded twelve cities; Tarco, I say, after whom the city of Tarquinia70 is named, who, on account of his sagacity from boyhood, is said by the myth-tellers to have been born with grey hair."
Geography 5.2.2
The really interesting thing is the Norse were practicing divination with runes in the same way as the etruscans..even in the Cleasby and Vigfusson old norse dictionary..it says "like the Latin Sortes" which is derived from the Etruscan Sors.
The same lexicon also says the word Rune is comparable to μυστηριον or mystery..which is directly connected to the mystery rites. To top it off the word Volva is often translated as Sibyl and the C+V lexicon says the same. In the prologue to the prose edda, snorri says the Aesir were in Troy and headed to thrace where Thor met a Sibyl.
One of the other norse texts even puts the Aesir in Idavoller or the plane of Ida..mount Ida is very close to Troy. Ive got all the sources pulled together in this series, so I hope you are able to watch them and let me know your thoughts afterward! Thanks for watching and for leaving your thoughts!
Thanks
Thanks for all the support, I appreciate it!
Think I'll start here. I've been wondering about the connections here.
Im happy to see you have dived into this series. I put a lot of work into this so Id love to hear your thoughts once you have completed it! Thank you!
Apple probably didn't know how apt their Siri prompt was/is. Apparently, Swahili for secret. It's all connected dude. Maybe?
It apparently has some connotations in Sanskrit as well! The more I see the more I feel like there is no such thing as coincidence! Cheers for leaving your thoughts and thanks for watching.
My hearing isn’t very good, what is the divining method described around 3:23?
Its called "Sors"cognate with latin "Sortes". Hope that helps!