Who are the Magi - Myth and History

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  • @TheEsotericaChannel
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    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith Рік тому +3

      TY for the informative video! I'm curious to know more about the link from Christianity to esotericism.
      What I mean is that in this story, we see the two brushing up against one another, but not really a connection. Is there a link from Christianity post-Nicaea to the occult? I want to say the Golden Dawn has Christian roots?
      In a more practical sense, where does one begin, rather than studying in parallel, if that makes any sense. IOW, not learning all new material that seems otherwise disconnected, but maybe starting with something such as gematria, which (I assume?) can be applied to the canonical scriptures, once understood.

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds Рік тому +2

      I appreciate that you take an academic approach. Happy Holidays 🎉, Merry Christmas 🎄 and Happy New Year 🎆 🎉

    • @Alin_ho
      @Alin_ho Рік тому

      Why the comment about conspiracy theories and the Vatican library? So when you have a report to do, you go to the library to find the knowledge you seek. So a library which has been around for over 1500 years and controlled by a group who actually at one time had total control over all of western society. Yet, you throw in some bullshit remark. I'm an orphan and was not able to finish school and went to prison because I had the wrong type of business and uncle Sam wants his cut. After covid I'm really believe that most people who went to school and went to college have know critical thinking skills. How many fights does one have to have with an uninformed person about the dangers of gene therapeutics while I have all the data from the scientist who developed the tech. I'm listening very closely to what you say. There is something wrong with the world today and it all comes back to one group of racist who think they are chosen because their great, great, great..... grandfather learned how to right and made himself above all others. The same people see 10 wonders in Egypt yet when Moses walks away for a few moments, they melt their gold to worship a golden calf, baal. Question, where did the slaves get so much gold?

    • @Alin_ho
      @Alin_ho Рік тому

      I'm a real thinker and spend my time doing that. Not watching TV, or listening to garbage sounds called music. I don't do drugs or drink, and I don't lie. I am not a republican or a Democrat but today in these days I lean heavily towards the conservatives. I was a soldier for the left and I see their lies and hate.

    • @Arnaere
      @Arnaere Рік тому

      @@idontknowname-rl8yb Magi are a Persian tribe. Arrian records that they guarded the tombs of the emperors. They were all Persian and obviously associated with good astronomy. Magic is an import into Greek based on the tribe, whose system of divination was based on astrology.

  • @ahobimo732
    @ahobimo732 Рік тому +278

    Justin, I'm so grateful that you choose to share your work freely online. The research and analysis in your videos is worth vastly more than many of us could ever afford. You show faith in humanity by asking only that people pay what they can. I admire you very much. I hope you're sharing a magical holiday season with people you love. Thank you.

  • @ashemvidam
    @ashemvidam Рік тому +434

    As a Zoroastrian UA-camr, I wanted to say thank you for shining some light onto my religion in such a truthful way, and for wading through the absolute mess that is Zoroastrian studies to find that stuff out. I appreciated how well researched it was.
    One thing I wanted to say is that it “Zoroaster”, Zarathushtra Spitama as he called himself, can’t have existed anytime near the Achaemenid dynasty of Iran. The language he spoke, Gathic Avestan, is extremely similar to the Sanskrit of the RgVeda, and it is dated to either the middle of the RgVedic period or the very beginning, all dependent on what level of phonological change one adopts. Who knows when exactly the RgVedic era is, but I don’t think anybody puts it after 1000 BC. Either way thank you for making this video, and if you ever need help working on a video on Zoroastrianism, I’d love to help! Also, the Gathas are a masterpiece of ancient poetry, composed by Zarathushtra himself, and are a great read. I would recommend the translations by Dr Stanley Insler and Dr Ali Jafarey.
    Ushta te (may you have radiant happiness)

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  Рік тому +118

      Thanks for this comment. And, yes, from one religious minority to another - I have great respect for Zoroastrianism and its adherents: a tremendously beautiful faith and tradition. But not, Zarathushtra was much, much before the adoption of his faith and reform by the western magi, for sure.

    • @ashemvidam
      @ashemvidam Рік тому +77

      @@TheEsotericaChannel thank you for the kind words. In its own way, Zoroastrians and Jews being friendly feels like keeping a 2,500 year tradition alive. I agree about the Magi too, there are a lot of things debatably added by them that seem very contrary to the teachings of Zarathushtra, yet are still accepted by many even today. It’s all so fascinating 🙏

    • @DavidVega-wi5pr
      @DavidVega-wi5pr Рік тому +7

      Much respect to you and your faith I always found it fascinating and inspiring and I'm glad it's traditions are kept alive

    • @Arnaere
      @Arnaere Рік тому +7

      @Ashemvidam We know from the texts that they used original early Avestan, which puts the date of record at around 1600-1800 BC. The Romans and Greeks universally place Zoroaster either 6000 years before their time or 5000 years before the Trojan war. The problem with Muslims and rabbinicalists is that they project a late view of Zoroaster in a competitive bid for Abraham to be the first monotheist. Their problem is exacerbated by the fact that Abraham is from Ur of the Chaldees, a dynasty which existed at Ur in Iraq only between the 8th-6th centuries BC, which means that the earliest form of Judaism could not have existed before then. All material evidence points to Judaism being a 3rd century BC construction with all of the materials modern neo-rabbinicalists use dating to after the 9th century AD when their movement was first constructed. (they have no continuity with classical Judaism)

    • @energystar51
      @energystar51 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Arnaere I'm very interested in the scholarship on this timeline. if you wouldn't mind, please dialog with me a little so I can find my feet. I'm a MEStudies student but unfortunately weak in ancient and classic period Persia/Sumeria outside biblical historicism and some of its modern buttressing and debunking archeological interpretations. id really like to be in touch with you for a bit!

  • @roys.1889
    @roys.1889 Рік тому +357

    Hey doc. Listening to this episode at 3 AM in the morning a few days before Christmas. This year has been one of the worst I've had due to the loss of my mom and a few other troubles that happened throughout the year. Your channel and videos have been a constant companion for me and have brought me joy, knowledge, and peace of mind over the entire year; from Yahweh's historical origins, Paul's Ascent into the Kavode [sic], Yukio Mishima's physical primacy, that business with the Library of Alexandria being really small, to the breakdown of Jungian interpretations of Alchemy, I've learned a LOT about these topics and I've learned about people historical and beyond.
    So for me at least, _you_ are my Shining Star of Wisdom, Joy, and Peace in a year of tumult. Thank you, Doc. I deeply appreciate your work.
    Oh and one last thing: I really like the comparison of your interest in Christian theology and history as reading a rulebook to a game you'll never play; being a Catholic born in Southeast Asia watching all that Kabbalah stuff was my version of your experience with Christianity.

    • @ScreebScreeb-qg9rp
      @ScreebScreeb-qg9rp Рік тому +24

      Keep on keeping on

    • @kuroazrem5376
      @kuroazrem5376 Рік тому +25

      You're not alone in this one. Hard year for me too.

    • @Bildgesmythe
      @Bildgesmythe Рік тому +19

      So sorry, this time of year can hurt.

    • @ruud_the_dude
      @ruud_the_dude Рік тому +18

      Glad you've found an outlet. May you find peace, and my your mother's memory be a blessing.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  Рік тому +153

      May your mom's memory be for a blessing. It really warms my heart - and I mean that - to hear that these videos are comforting to anyone enduring hardship. You matter and I want to express my sincere thanks for such a brave and kind comment. I'm so proud of this community and people like you. May we all be blessed with the strength to endure and thrive. The way out is through and we'll make it together.

  • @richardschneller7674
    @richardschneller7674 Рік тому +129

    I really appreciate the idea of taking faith seriously but not literally. A studious approach to all the beliefs of the world can’t help but be beneficial. This is such an interesting and human story. This is also very entertaining

    • @harrys919
      @harrys919 9 місяців тому

      @@Dowlphin explain in simple terms

    • @Dovahkiin0117
      @Dovahkiin0117 3 місяці тому +1

      @@rockk9753would you say that about any other mythology

    • @JohnnyArtPavlou
      @JohnnyArtPavlou 17 днів тому

      And it’s also crazy.

  • @zackf3688
    @zackf3688 Рік тому +11

    Thanks for making the Shabbat before Christmas especially sweet.

  • @Bildgesmythe
    @Bildgesmythe Рік тому +286

    When my son was in preschool he came home excitingly telling me about the wise guys. Took me a while to realize he meant wise men.

    • @Nozarks1
      @Nozarks1 Рік тому +9

      How cute

    • @FolkenForever
      @FolkenForever 7 місяців тому +15

      Why is he learning about christianity in preschool? I would be concerned with the curriculum of that school/district. Indoctrinating christianity at a young age.

    • @hundredbandzbulls
      @hundredbandzbulls 6 місяців тому +16

      @@FolkenForeveralso liking ur own comment is pathetic

    • @lolkthnxbai
      @lolkthnxbai 6 місяців тому +10

      Liking your own comment is pretty based

    • @zillakamikaze5551
      @zillakamikaze5551 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@hundredbandzbulls if you weren't meant to it wouldn't be possible

  • @hansomsam
    @hansomsam Рік тому +9

    Thanks again for bringing a relentless scholarly rigour and depth that, along with your dry wit and clarity, opens up the fascinating depths of things I haven't thought of for many years, or at all.

  • @screetchycello
    @screetchycello Рік тому +26

    Thanks for all the work you do making these! May the next year be great.

  • @infinitumneo840
    @infinitumneo840 Рік тому +10

    I enjoyed your overview on these confluent topics. Thanks!

  • @themythdoctor
    @themythdoctor Рік тому +12

    Thanks for all the amazing content Dr. Sledge! It will be useful in my Tolkien dissertation focusing on Gandalf and enigmatic wizard figures in myth & pop culture at Pacifica Graduate Institute. I watch so many of your videos and love them!

  • @CrazyPablo44
    @CrazyPablo44 Рік тому +90

    Loved this deep dive! I was raised in the Greek Orthodox tradition and treasure it…with ambivalence (I also have deep Manichaean tendencies). I’m grateful for perspective your on the Early Church Fathers and for clarifying much about Zoroastrian history in this video. I can’t wait for you to do a deep dive on Zoroastrianism!

  • @timitator2517
    @timitator2517 Рік тому +37

    The humor that you inject into your presentations is unequaled.

  • @Stoneworks
    @Stoneworks Рік тому +92

    The church fathers’ writing as an RPG manual is absolutely hilarious

    • @gabrielamaralpassos9537
      @gabrielamaralpassos9537 11 місяців тому +6

      Stoneworks here? Damn, now esoterica is blessed

    • @gymonstarfunkle136
      @gymonstarfunkle136 7 місяців тому +10

      "It's all LARP?"
      Samael: "Always has been."

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero 17 днів тому +1

      @@gymonstarfunkle136
      Alright, where do I find your PHB, then?

  • @basalix78
    @basalix78 Рік тому +115

    When I was 5 years old, I dressed as one of the "3 kings" for my school's nativity play. I had the choice of Joseph, but I wanted the chocolate gold coins...

    • @keyscook
      @keyscook 6 місяців тому +1

      I got to be the "little drummer boy"! (can't recall exactly what that represented)

    • @LuMoRo34
      @LuMoRo34 3 місяці тому +6

      @@keyscook my cousin was the donkey...

    • @tianikane3312
      @tianikane3312 15 днів тому

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @justplainamerican
    @justplainamerican Рік тому +110

    It seems ironic that I learn more about Christianity in an unbiased fashion from you, a Jewish scholar, than anywhere else. Thank you. I've long been distressed and disgusted by the antisemitism established early in the history of Christianity. I guess Christians didn't invent it but they sure have kept it alive and thriving. It never hurt anyone, you said. Right. I do appreciate your sarcasm. Thank you for your videos. I finally decided to comment. I've watched many of them and enjoy your presentations. You never come across as anti-christian and that speaks volumes on your character. May you and yours be blessed now and in the coming new year.

    • @Oo7Hola
      @Oo7Hola 9 місяців тому +1

      Same here

    • @Toastrodamus
      @Toastrodamus 9 місяців тому +3

      What did you think was going to happen? Strange comment.

    • @kevinbailey9981
      @kevinbailey9981 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@Toastrodamus A lot of christian content is either trying to prove that God exists or trying to debunk his existence. This is not fulfilling for everyone who wants to learn about the practices of various cultures.

  • @cuzned1375
    @cuzned1375 Рік тому +82

    This is among my favorite episodes on this stellar channel. Interesting and delightful thru and thru.
    I suppose it’s because Dr Justin is bringing his usual childlike wonder _and_ academic rigor to a topic with which i _thought_ i was familiar, thanks to my Protestant upbringing.
    I also found the inclusive closing message downright moving. That’s probably due in part to my growing affection for Dr Justin, along with (perhaps!) the Irish whiskey i’ve been enjoying while i listened. 😋

  • @ivandr.mihovk4777
    @ivandr.mihovk4777 20 днів тому +7

    Köszönjük!

  • @terhitormanen
    @terhitormanen 20 днів тому +8

    Kiitos!

  • @rhondie4ever
    @rhondie4ever Рік тому +9

    Thanks for all the fascinating videos about rtopics like this!

  • @clownpaint20
    @clownpaint20 Рік тому +7

    I’m starting to realize your videos are mirroring what a lot of early humanist tried doing and what a lot of scribes of ancient knowledge tried doing too, recording, explaining and preserving this knowledge that would have otherwise been lost to time. I hope your videos are seen by other people 100 years from now.

  • @mikeflannery7219
    @mikeflannery7219 Рік тому +5

    Thanks! Merry Xmas!

  • @AlexanderCollas666
    @AlexanderCollas666 Рік тому +7

    Thanks!

  • @StCrimson667
    @StCrimson667 Рік тому +68

    Later depictions of the Magi also serve a really interesting function during the Medieval period, explicitly depicting the three Magi as European, Arabic, and African to represent the three sphere of Christendom, Europe, "Asia" or the modern Middle East, and Africa (Ethiopia).

    • @baaldiablo8459
      @baaldiablo8459 Рік тому

      Hehe the bigger the lie eh?

    • @RBzee112
      @RBzee112 Рік тому +12

      @@baaldiablo8459 it's was a metaphor. Historical texts were never about literal accuracy.

    • @CM-zl3fk
      @CM-zl3fk Рік тому +16

      I am a Persian, our ancient religion is Zoroastrian. The Zoroastrian priest is called Magi.

    • @davina3358
      @davina3358 Рік тому

      I think the European, Arabic, and African representation is an attempt to Christianize the world which later happened during the Age of European Colonialism

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 Рік тому +3

      @@CM-zl3fk Yes, he literally tells us this in the first third of the video.

  • @georginawonder
    @georginawonder Рік тому +40

    I grew up in Puerto Rico, and in our household in the mid 70s when I was a child, and as far as I can remember thanks to our parents especially my father, we used to celebrate “Los Tres Reyes Magos” which translates as “The Three Magi Kings”... I didn’t know who Santa Claus or Christmas was until I was an adolescent in the 80s. That’s when the tradition of the three magi kings started dying in our household.
    Thanks for sharing this informative video with us it was most interesting!

    • @axelrivera6020
      @axelrivera6020 Рік тому +4

      Same, in our house we don't celebrate Christmas, just three kings day on Jan 5.

    • @georginawonder
      @georginawonder Рік тому +4

      @@axelrivera6020 Yes the Three Magi Kings were our Santa Clause

    • @understories3210
      @understories3210 Рік тому +2

      Peurto Rico has tons of "stars" that can be followed.

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 Рік тому +1

      Historically, in both East and West, Epiphany or Theophany was the more important holiday. Christmas being a big thing was the result of Luther.

    • @mjgerleman
      @mjgerleman 10 місяців тому +3

      Did you leave grass out for the wise men's camels?

  • @kieferonline
    @kieferonline Рік тому +112

    This is an excellent lecture. Thank you for sharing your scholarship! Even if you are not a Christian, you present these ideas in a neutral, yet respectful manner. You have my respect.

    • @SquizzMe
      @SquizzMe Рік тому +4

      Generalizing entire religions as "mythology" is hardly respectful, but it's a great video regardless.

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber Рік тому +7

      ​@@SquizzMe Mythology is a completely neutral term academically. It essentially refers to a genre

    • @lxDastanxl
      @lxDastanxl 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@SquizzMe mythology is actually a theory not true or false since many believe it, so it's ok to refer it as a myth since faith alone it's need it

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber 9 місяців тому +2

      @@lxDastanxl No?
      That's not what I meant. Myth as a genre refers to stories of divine beings, those who they oppose, and how they alter nature and civilization

    • @lxDastanxl
      @lxDastanxl 9 місяців тому

      @@rudolfambrozenvtuber lol that's true I got confused my explanation is about legend not myth

  • @Que-Lindo
    @Que-Lindo Рік тому +18

    “Just to be clear, this frankincense is for Christmas AND your birthday.”

    • @ScholarlyScalawag
      @ScholarlyScalawag 3 місяці тому

      @@Que-Lindo 😂😂😂😂😂 lol. He was the First

  • @stevemartindale4446
    @stevemartindale4446 Рік тому +23

    We four Beatles of Liverpool are
    John in a taxi, Paul in a car
    George on a scooter beeping his hooter
    Following Ringo Starr.
    Well I’ve got that off my chest and I’ll get my coat!

  • @augusthavince8909
    @augusthavince8909 Рік тому +7

    Wisdom, Joy and Peace to you, Dr. Sledge.

  • @petegdula4749
    @petegdula4749 Рік тому +11

    Dr Justin, I am an Episcopal Deacon who follows you for the insightful images you present. I've been in situations where I'm able to preach once a month. My preparation will always find me looking for viewpoints and commentaries outside of the normal Christian publications that are "recommended" reading. Your subjects have led me to some deep introspection that allow me to present other views and possibilities which add to the discussions held during the Coffee Hour that follows the Service. You've also contributed to some responses by our priest in his sermons the following week. This coming Sunday being so close to the Epiphany will allow me to use some of your imagery in a Homily focused on the star. The writings of Ignatius of Antioch with his heavy metal anthem will be sure to headline my own writing. I'll avoid using the hand symbol associated with metal music to avoid being accussed of spreading anti-Christian messages.😉 Thank you for awesome videos! Pax et Bonum!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  Рік тому +11

      I am delighted to hear that anything I create can also help to be spiritual food for the faithful - despite my own skepticism. The story of the Magi is very powerful and what analysis I bring to the table can be beneficial to the skeptical and faithful alike. Many thanks for your kind words!

  • @heathermcbade9209
    @heathermcbade9209 Рік тому +18

    "As a Jew, it's like studying roleplaying manuals for games I don't ever want to play."
    This is why you are my favorite source of esoteric study. Your sense of humor and neutral analytical study of all sources without bias are a gem.
    Thank you for this!

  • @xPr0DiiGyxLORDsh
    @xPr0DiiGyxLORDsh Рік тому +8

    This page is a gem, truly. I mean modern day library of Alexandria type stuff. I get that it can be overwhelming but I feel blessed to have found your page. Some of the stuff is hard to remember or hold onto knowledge wise, a lot of it feels like a map being written of a world unseen while my eyes are fixated on a different world all the time. In the end thank you.

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 Рік тому +1

      You, uh, didn't watch his Library of Alexandria video, did you?

  • @splorn
    @splorn Рік тому +6

    First time I’ve seen one of your videos. Like a breath of fresh air. (And using Mr.T as the image for gold made me more than a little happy on this ‘Christmas Day’ in Japan.)

  • @thespiritualnavigatrix
    @thespiritualnavigatrix Рік тому +11

    I was just searching Esoterica to see if you had done a deep dive on the Magi as I was thinking ahead to Epiphany. (I'm sitting here with my coffee and Eric Vanden Eykel's book in my lap). How lovely to find this in my feed! ❤

  • @Rydonattelo
    @Rydonattelo Рік тому +4

    Perfect for a Friday night. I've just started my two week Christmas holiday. Have a magi Christmas everyone. Go sing it on the mountain.

  • @Saint_nobody
    @Saint_nobody Рік тому +5

    Your dry humor at the end, man that got me chuckling. Merry Christmas and happy chanukah.

  • @harmozyl
    @harmozyl 4 місяці тому +5

    Dziękujemy.

  • @EmnM2010
    @EmnM2010 Рік тому +3

    I love learning new things about what the heck I believe in and try to take the feeling of my dander rising as a queue to sit down, shut up, and listen. It's just historical data, not a blatant attack. I got so uncomfortable at one point that I considered clicking a different video and coming back to this one when I had more fortitude - my preconceived notions were REALLY upset for a minute, there. I'm glad I found the emotional courage to see the whole thing through to the end!

  • @EscualoDP
    @EscualoDP Рік тому +3

    Love the way you wrapped it up at the end! Another job well done 👍🏼 Peace, Dr. Sledge!

  • @Protogonas
    @Protogonas Рік тому +6

    Magic as always Dr. Sledge, Christmas came early with this gift of a video!

  • @matthewhorrigan5848
    @matthewhorrigan5848 Рік тому +7

    I have a vivid memory of being Balthazar in a nativity play at my Roman Catholic parish when I was seven or eight. It's great to learn the historical truth behind those stories.

  • @MTheoOA
    @MTheoOA Рік тому +4

    You're my fav channel. Mind blowing depth. And you're so charismatic and nice. Thanks so much for this treasure. I changed completely how i studied alchemy and made me value it a lot more, almost in an ethical way

  • @KCreading-Writing
    @KCreading-Writing Рік тому +32

    Another stellar presentation, Doc. When hearing the Magi and the Star of Bethlehem story, I think of Arthur C. Clarke's THE STAR, where a Vatican astronomer goes in search of the star, or supernova, that God used to herald Jesus' birth. Its conclusion is definitely not what the reader expects.

    • @tgh2048
      @tgh2048 Рік тому +3

      The 1980s Twilight Zone show made an episode of that story.

    • @sarahenson9659
      @sarahenson9659 Рік тому

      That story has lived rent free in my brain since I first read it - in high school English class of all places.

    • @gabrielcunha2260
      @gabrielcunha2260 6 місяців тому +2

      Idk about that story, but many Catholic theologians, including Saint Thomas Aquinas, defended that the Star who guided the Magi was an Angel, so that's not problematic for us

  • @secretshaman189
    @secretshaman189 Рік тому +5

    You have a very interesting and informative channel and I appreciate your delivery. Respectful, but questioning -- always good!

  • @bufboston1
    @bufboston1 Місяць тому +2

    I love your videos. Nothing says 'esoteric' like a fine image of Mr. T.

  • @tianikane3312
    @tianikane3312 15 днів тому

    Dr Justin, we have watched many of your vids and really appreciate how you put things into the historical perspective as well as the spiritual perspective. It makes much more sense to us than any of the explanations we have received over our lifetime (70 years only). We really appreciate the work you are doing.

  • @Pallasathena-hv4kp
    @Pallasathena-hv4kp Рік тому +2

    Your dives never disappoint. Always interesting to hear the different perspectives from sources of which I was unaware. Thanks!

  • @rileywalstrom3037
    @rileywalstrom3037 Рік тому +10

    "There is a second, equally important task. That is to take faith very seriously. Not literally, but seriously." YES! Thank you so much for reiterating this.

  • @AzraNoxx
    @AzraNoxx Рік тому +16

    I feel like large parts of this channel could fit the motto: "Take that - historical or doctrinal validity!" If there's a short story, someone is going to write the cinematic universe of it. First Enoch, now the Magi.

  • @experience_kingsley
    @experience_kingsley Рік тому +2

    What a fun thing to listen to on Christmas Eve! Thank you!

  • @TheRemarkableN
    @TheRemarkableN Рік тому +5

    I for one enjoy these long, deep dives into interesting topics. Keep on truckin’ Dr Sledge!

  • @J_Z913
    @J_Z913 Рік тому +45

    An amazing episode! The magi were my favorite part of the Christmas story when I was a kid. That's probably because they were portrayed in bright colors though! 😂 Thank you for all your work this year on the channel! I can't wait to see what you have planned for 2024!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  Рік тому +16

      Yeah they definitely have the best costumes!

    • @_John_P
      @_John_P Рік тому +5

      @@TheEsotericaChannel Interesting how they're depicted wearing Phrygian hats and then suddenly they're kings with crowns and an army.

  • @samuelsmith5828
    @samuelsmith5828 Рік тому +3

    A another wonderful video. Thank you Dr.Sledge. Have a blessed holiday.

  • @jamesstanton3909
    @jamesstanton3909 8 днів тому +1

    First time watching your stuff, dang you are good at this. Excellent melding of information, context and personal take. The best 'content creators' seek to inspire thought, just wanted to say that I think you're doing a great job.

  • @positivepolitics1
    @positivepolitics1 Рік тому +4

    Thanks

  • @E_915
    @E_915 Рік тому +12

    5 mins in, I already know this is gonna be a certified hood classic

  • @Warlanda
    @Warlanda Рік тому +5

    thank you for a beautiful presentation about the magi; you are an honorable man, Dr. Sledge and I appreciated the opportunity to learn from you.
    a very Merry Christmas to you and yours and may you be blessed as you are a blessing to so many others.

  • @theeccentrictripper3863
    @theeccentrictripper3863 Рік тому +3

    This is too much Doc, we didn't get you anything yet here you are at the door with an hour-long video for our enjoyment!
    Can't wait for 2024, I don't know what will come next but I always know Esoterica will have something for me.

  • @Based_Remy
    @Based_Remy Рік тому +2

    Yesss! I've been waiting for this one! Can't wait to listen when I get off work! You're awesome Doc! Keep up the great work 🤝

  • @maezzologymedia14
    @maezzologymedia14 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite yt channels! Thank you Justin and have a great holiday, from Denmark

  • @diogocoelho3450
    @diogocoelho3450 Рік тому +2

    My man, this channel is great, every single vídeo that I saw is great. Congratulations.

  • @Gizziiusa
    @Gizziiusa Рік тому +10

    What's so strange about this is, all during my life (im mid 50's in age), the term "Magi" was never used. It was always "3 Kings, 3 Wise Men, 3 Wise Kings from the East". When I found out (stumbled upon in wikipedia) that the real title was "Biblical Magi"....I was baffled. Never ever heard them called that prior.
    Maybe thats the case for some others too ?

    • @enzocompanbadillo5365
      @enzocompanbadillo5365 Рік тому +4

      Not for us in hispanic countries, though. Los Tres Reyes Magos (The three Magi Kings) brought us gifts every year before the popularization of the americanized Santa Claus

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa Рік тому

      ah, ok. thanks for the comment and info. Magi King huh ?! wow, interesting.@@enzocompanbadillo5365

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 Рік тому +3

    Thank you, Justin, again for this amazing opportunity to hear the philosophy and religious writings with your wisdom and diversity, and leaving me with more knowledge to comtempate with reflection.
    🙏❤️🌎🌿🕊🎶🎵

  • @MsJocelynC
    @MsJocelynC 18 днів тому +4

    Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays, everyone 🤍🎄🕯️🎁💫🧚🏻‍♀️

    • @TracyD2
      @TracyD2 17 днів тому +1

      @@MsJocelynC Happy Holidays to you!

  • @bferrell1797
    @bferrell1797 Рік тому +2

    That was a lot of information to unpack! Excellent. Happy holidays.

  • @laurenganim9092
    @laurenganim9092 Рік тому +4

    Such an amazing lecture! Thank you for sharing your expertise, something I always wanted to learn.

  • @thejamesQF
    @thejamesQF Рік тому +7

    I’m loving this, and I’m a big fan of your channel Dr.Sledge.
    I’d like to humbly make a request, could you do an episode on Simon Magus?
    This episode reminded me of him since he’s quite a significant Magi and figure in the gnostic tradition. I’m sure your analysis of him would be great. Thanks!

  • @marcusdoolette1547
    @marcusdoolette1547 Рік тому +3

    Such a great talk. So interesting and entertaining. Much appreciated. Your sense of humour is really uplifting. Laughed a lot. Learned a lot. Many thanks. Merry Mishmash and a Happy Third Gear to you and your family. Enjoy the Solstice.🙂

  • @Chilimancer
    @Chilimancer Рік тому +2

    This is very quickly becoming one of my favorite channels.

  • @philduperron5307
    @philduperron5307 19 днів тому +1

    Well that made for an interesting Christmas eve. Thanks Justin.

  • @EgoDeathStranding
    @EgoDeathStranding Рік тому +4

    Nothing less than 3 (Mario) Super Stars for you sir. Dearly appreciate you and your work. Sending a sincere 'Love ya man!' all the way for the South Bronx...
    P.S.: the Mario coin sound nearly killed me with laughter. So thanks for that too ☺️

  • @wangtoriojackson4315
    @wangtoriojackson4315 Рік тому +14

    I heard the names "Melchior, Gaspar, and Belthasar" for the first time from playing Chrono Trigger, years before I learned they were the names of the three magi in the birth of Jesus myth, being raised in an Atheist household. To this day I still associate them prominently with CT whenever I read or hear anything about them. I have a lot of great memories of that game. It was perhaps the single most formative piece of media in my tastes for not only videogames, but fantasy fiction in all forms, as well as mythology and allegory.

  • @Rydonattelo
    @Rydonattelo Рік тому +6

    " Gandalf like wizards with thier hats and bears that appear everywhere "
    * sounds like you doctor Sledge 👍🏼

  • @gregstephens7990
    @gregstephens7990 Рік тому +1

    I love your work, and your right the episode on religion for breakfast about Zoroastrianism was very good, you both will be part of history next. happy holidays and longer days to come.

  • @thesatsumonster
    @thesatsumonster 6 місяців тому +2

    "Messiah: the game where nobody wins!" 🤣 I love this channel, your voice is so pleasant and I appreciate that the videos are very calm and slower paced but still packed with information. I find some other producer's styles to be a little overstimulating and I am too old for that lol!! Thank you so much for teaching Esotericism this way.

  • @robertwalker-smith2739
    @robertwalker-smith2739 Рік тому +2

    Excellent video! Another thorough and informative analysis. You combine scholarship and enthusiasm with great skill.

  • @ADEpoch
    @ADEpoch Рік тому +1

    I'm not Jewish, an ex-Christian (now atheist) but your general philosophy hinted at in your closing remarks ring a loud bell with me. Shalom l'atah rabbi.

  • @rook9714
    @rook9714 Рік тому +19

    On the subject of fanfiction, the star (here identified as the morning star, Venus, by its name as a Germanic pagan mythological figure) in the Old English Poem Crist I was the very first inspiration for Tolkien's legendarium - "Ēala ēarendel, engla beorhtast, ofer middangeard monnum sended" (Hail Earendel, brightest of angels, sent over Middle-Earth to men), giving us both the name Middle-Earth and the character of Eärendil the Mariner, who sails with a silmaril upon his brow, and whose light is captured in a phial by Galadriel and given to the ringbearer (which he then uses in the pass of Cirith Ungol to ward off Shelob), echoing the theological connection to the star as a symbol of hope. Frodo's evocation of the phial with the words in elvish "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima" ('Hail Earendil brightest of stars') even resemble the original old english lines.

    • @rook9714
      @rook9714 Рік тому +6

      "I felt a curious thrill, as if something had stirred in me, half wakened by sleep. There was something very remote and strange and beautiful behind those words, if I could grasp it, far beyond ancient English." - Tolkien, 1911, during his first undergraduate term at Oxford.

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds Рік тому +3

      Wow. Very interesting and informative

  • @ajdemourn9469
    @ajdemourn9469 5 місяців тому +1

    The most legit Dr out there. Thanks for sharing your experience with the world.

  • @AccidentalNinja
    @AccidentalNinja 10 місяців тому +2

    It is absolutely fascinating to learn all the potential literary & symbolic meanings behind the elements of these stories, & it makes the literalists seem all the more tragic for flattening them so.

  • @DAClarkism
    @DAClarkism Рік тому +1

    Thank you Dr. Sledge for the wonderful early Christmas present! I hope you've had a good Hanukkah, and please have a safe and peaceful Christmas as well! Peace and blessings upon you and your house! I thoroughly enjoyed your commentary on the Magi and the various ancient sources surrounding them. I also found the various tie-ins to astrology enlightening. I had read that the Greeks had some issues with Zoroastrians, and I think what you've said about astrology might have been part of the reason.
    You are a fascinating individual my friend, and you remind me of a friend of mine, so i do indeed enjoy your content, please keep it coming brother!

  • @yvonnebruce6178
    @yvonnebruce6178 Рік тому +2

    Thank you. I will never stop learning.

  • @gypsydonovan
    @gypsydonovan Рік тому +11

    TLTR: I just gave my entire bio but the point was to show how ridiculous it is that the UA-cam algorithm hasn’t introduced me to this channel until now.
    I guess it’s an Xmas present & I’ll be binging for days. I’m very glad to have found you!
    - Crys
    I have absolutely no idea how this is the first video I’ve been recommended. I’ve had an interest in philosophy, theology, folklore, the occult & the esoteric all my life.
    My mother was fascinated by human psychology and belief systems. She was also very interested in true crime, which fits into the same construct if you think about it. It’s all understanding human behavior.
    I spent my tween years in the public library obsessed by folklore and oddities of history and belief.
    I’d seen a vampire movie & got obsessed. Possibly an early manifestation of what would be revealed as ocd when I was an adult. I rented the movie (in the days of vhs stores) so many times the owner gave me a copy for my 11th birthday. My mom went all out and made me a garlic necklace, hand carved a table leg into a wooden stake with crosses burnt into it & a topped it off with a stolen vial of holy water.
    Needless to say she was encouraging of all my interests & she had her own esoteric library for me to explore.
    She was Wiccan (my dad was Catholic). I was very interested in the paranormal. I had a phase of obsession over revelations. I even worked for the international society for cryptozoology as a teenager.
    I had a good foundation of knowledge but it wasn’t until college that I started honing critical thinking skills. High school was a nightmare but I easily excelled in academics in college.
    I debated between psych & anthropology, became an archaeologist (focusing on indigenous Peoples of the Pacific Northwest & a 19th center Japanese village north of Seattle) then developed spinal problems and went back to school for history.
    My academic focus was medieval Europe. I wrote about the French werewolf panic , women in early Christianity & the influence of John Dee.
    I minored in NELC {ancient near eastern civilization} studying Sumerian, Babylonian, & Egyptian history & theology as well as the development of Abrahamic religion.
    I also had a second minor, a major had I done the language requirement, in Scandinavian studies studying Viking burial practices.
    I just realized this is long & is half my life story. I’ll leave it at this: I’m thrilled to find this channel & annoyed it took so long. Subscribing with the bell on 😀

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 Рік тому +1

    Delightfully eloquent. I have been able to learn from your work here. Thank you!

  • @vicleomant8519
    @vicleomant8519 17 днів тому +1

    Watching this on dec 26 th. Wishing all peace and love and may we walk together in this life and all others

    • @Desi_the_destroyer
      @Desi_the_destroyer 17 днів тому

      @@vicleomant8519 I was recommended this video too. It's December 26th. Have a good day

  • @lisabeth61lk
    @lisabeth61lk Рік тому +1

    As usual a wonderful and informative show. Thank you Justin

  • @jamesolivier5224
    @jamesolivier5224 6 місяців тому

    Thank you Dr. Sledge. The more I watch the more I appreciate what you do.

  • @zeenatbaer138
    @zeenatbaer138 Рік тому +4

    Such a great episode, many thanks ... Peace and good will to all ❤

  • @DarthBop
    @DarthBop Рік тому +2

    Very interesting. Merry Christmas to you, sir!

  • @billrozell9081
    @billrozell9081 Місяць тому +2

    When you said the Magi were overseeing flour stores at Uruk I heard it as "flower stores" and imagined all these Phrygian-capped florists running around.

  • @lunarchandelierpress6986
    @lunarchandelierpress6986 Рік тому +1

    Dr. Sledge, thank you! Your detailed and yet wide-sweeeping commentary enlarged a corner of the nativity story that I hadn't really thoght much about other than to feel affection for the travelled Magi, whomever they were and from whereever they came. That star becomes even MORE enigmatic in your exploration. Thank you for alerting us to the antisemetic and wrong-headed elements in these narratives. Thank you for your fair and compassionate appreciation of our human religions. May you and yours have a loving Hanukkah(a bit late), glad solstice, and a better New Year.

  • @Emmieloj
    @Emmieloj Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much dr. Sledge, for another wonderful episode. It has been a perfect start to my Christmas (or rather yuletide) celebration.
    With your deep knowledge (both lived and studied) of jewish tradition and history, you give a fantastic perspective to christian mythos and traditions. A little bit from the outside, a lot of being on the same team as Jesus and his gang, and with a profound respect for us who actually belive in Jesus and the christian canon. But then you're not alone, as a several of my favourite scholars when studying christian theology were practicing jews.
    So once again, thank you for a great episode and for a fantastic channel.

    • @Emmieloj
      @Emmieloj Рік тому +1

      Oh, and calling the apocryphal texts fanfics is BRILLIANT!

    • @Reverend_Salem
      @Reverend_Salem 29 днів тому

      ​@@Emmieloj also, one of the texts where we get the concept of hell having rings is also christian Fanfic, the divine comedy.

  • @dharmabum1111
    @dharmabum1111 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this, much enjoyed and was intrigued by the many references to astrology. 'maybe the Star of Bethlehem wasn't a star afterall'...I'll be humming along to Neil Young for days now. Wishing you and all your viewers a peaceful holiday. 🌟

  • @Cloudryder
    @Cloudryder Рік тому +15

    “JC Literal Superstar” 😂
    Hoping some screenwriters are watching this stellar episode.
    Merry Xmas, Justin. 🤘🏻

  • @Tinkering4Time
    @Tinkering4Time Рік тому +5

    Thank you so much for a year of wisdom and insight. Your work of making this knowledge accessible has helped me to process my own experiences and trauma from growing up in and leaving a cult and understand the world around me even better.
    Your work has broadened my philosophical and moral horizons, and has left me with less fear and even more questions (dropped right onto my own pile of mysteries).
    Your openness about your struggles during the Satanic panic was eye-opening, as someone whose family and development has been shaped in part by it. I am especially grateful to you there.
    I hope you had a good Hanukkah and that the rest of the holiday season is merry and bright for you.

  • @lavender3084
    @lavender3084 Рік тому +11

    I gotta talk about the magi’s depiction in one of my favourite Doom Metal songs: Black Stone Wielder by Candlemass! Solid riffs and an interesting story, basically they’re wizards that passed on their magical gift to the baby Jesus, super interesting ♥️

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 Рік тому +1

      Kinda Santa Claus via L Frank Baum

  • @DubProof
    @DubProof Рік тому

    Thank you Dr. Justin. Happy Holidays!

  • @theslightlychippedmoon
    @theslightlychippedmoon Рік тому +1

    May we all find our shining star. Thank you Dr Sledge

  • @davidmckayii752
    @davidmckayii752 2 місяці тому

    Great! Christmas history here, with stories from the Bible, about how it's symbolism made its way into our conversations about this wonderful time of year. Much love from Texas

  • @jorose571
    @jorose571 Рік тому

    Dr Justin you have the best driest sense of humour, love it. Of course all the rest of your content as well