Nothing Is Real S01E15 - The Mark Lewisohn Interview, Part Two
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2021
- Episode 15 - The Mark Lewisohn Interview, Part Two.
Mark Lewisohn is the world’s leading Beatles historian and writer. As every Beatles fan knows, he is also in the middle of the “30 year project” that is All These Years, the definitive Beatles biography. In the second of two parts, Mark talks about working for the Beatles during the Anthology project in the 1990s, and working on All These Years via Benny Hill. He also answers some of Steven & Jason’s random queries. Live on tape from Dublin, it’s Nothing Is Real.
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Originally released October 2019
Brilliant interview guys. Mark Lewisohn fascinating as ever.
The best beatles podcast i have ever heard
Ditto :)
In the Seventies when EMI were upgrading the control room at Studio 2, they set up a number of days where they put on "Long and Winding Road" as a film show in the studio. I'm sure I got the information from Melody Maker and I can remember travelling all the way down from Scotland to go and watch one of the morning showings. Luckily I had friends to stay with in London at the time. It was my first time at Abbey Road, my first time walking across "That Zebra Crossing" and my one and only time of being in Studio 2.
I can not explain how excited I was for weeks before and after.
PS: I've now retired to Spain and the other crazy trip I made fairly recently was to come back to the UK and go and see one of Mark's Hornsey Road shows in London. Thanks for the upload guys.
Great content as always....we are lucky to have Mark Lewisohn and also very lucky to have this podcast
The main problem with Jeff Lynne production is that, whoever the artist, it ends up sounding like a Jeff Lynne record.
I absolutely LOVE and am so relieved that you asked Mark about Mona Best and the military medals. I've been wondering about that for years since I read Tune In. Thanks!
Great interview! Thanks
I enjoy listening to Mark talk about the Beatles. I've listened to everything on UA-cam with him being interviewed, and there seems to be a silent period from Mark over the last few months. Hopefully that is evidence that he's behind his computer working on volumes 2 and 3 of All these years?
These are awesome interviews! Thank you so much.
Thanks for the post. Thank you Mark for being so candid, and I believe Mark is doing his work with the best intent.I hope generations of Beatles fans get to taste the fruits of Mark’s professionalism and love for The Beatles in the round.
Mark is the best there is at what he does. Steady on, sir. Ignore the pests and just give us your best work. History will judge the results. So far, everything you’ve given us has been of the highest standards.
Hey Mark, thanks so much for all the Beatles related stuff over the years . I know I have 1 or 2 books of yours which are great!
It’s all about opinions I guess and mine is...the drum sound on Free as a Bird...is great and so is Jeff Lynne who managed to pull out a lovely track from a rough demo on cassette tape. In Jeff own words it was incredibly hard work, timing it up et al.
Fascinating, thank you.
Whoa guys this is fantastic. Thanks
WOW... This is the first time I have ever heard Mark get annoyed. The man is a legend and I am just waiting patiently for the next volume.
johnpbh - Lewisohn's whining is pretty lame - Marc is playing an unauthorized business meeting at apple from sept 1969 for the press and for his own personal tour for his own economic benefit - that's wrong - By the way - he was taking credit for discovering the apple meeting from sept 1969 due to his research methods - Fucking guy should have credited Anthony Fawcett who published it in his One Day at a time book from 1976 - Guy has a habit of being the one authority on beatles as if he is on a par with them - In fact - many other writers have done amazing work like Chip Madinger - so many others - Don't forget Lewisohn had a part in Phillip Norman's shout which is one of the worst beatle books ever and bashed Paul severely -
Apple cowardice? How about not playing unauthorised Apple business meeting tapes to line your own pockets. That’s highly illegal and the Lennon estate owns the content.
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 I suspect that there might be a debate about that as it was an Apple meeting so I would suggest that the content is owned by Apple. And I'm quite sure that you are aware that when he was contacted by Apple it wasn't played. There seems to be a strange dichotomy here where the attitude seems to be that some people are able to "line their pockets" without censure but others get told off. Similarly I wouldn't think one book every ten years leaves him rolling in greenbacks..... Just saying.
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 yeah....he's rich.....
Hearing what Mark has been through with Apple really makes me root for him now. With Derek and Neil gone it seems the company has gone the way of all others before it and been taken over by Lawyers, Accountants and inept ad execs.
SImonpenum - Bullshit - Bullshit - He was fired by apple by playin unauthorized recordings for journalist at Abby Road- also - he was playing an unauthorized recording of a business meeting for his own personal profit for tour- that's bloody wrong and talk about biting the hand that feeds you - Are you fucking kidding me
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 He’s clearly stated he was hoodwinked by the journalist into thinking the article would solely be about him rather than this “inside Abbey road” expose piece that was published and why shouldn’t he tour with a tape of genuine historical value to many many people? He has to make a living and I fully support that. I’m actually rereading his book and I cannot wait for the next one. You sound like a complete shill lol
@@simonpenum the contents of the 1969 Apple meeting were leaked to the newspaper and originally lewisohn spoke about his incredible find through his brilliant research. Small problem. Lewisohn didn’t discover it. The transcript for years And years been in Anthony fawcetts one day at a time book in 1976. Playing a bootleg tape that is unauthorised by Apple and charging people admission to hear it is straight up wrong. Taking sole credit for findings that were previously published by another author also is lame. Chip madinger and other beatle researchers like Ken Womack and Jason Krupa are doing great work and prove that there are many great beatle researchers out there who will outshine lewisohn in future with their imaginative and incredible work. Working solo and trying to do everything yourself in the beatle kingdom is absolute madness and lunacy and speaks volumes to his insufferable ego On one of the podcasts earlier this year he spent an hour talking about toppermost of the poppermost which is a story out of volume one. Is this how he spends his free time re editing bloody volume one Doing it without a research team is a fools errand.
Simonpenum mark lewisohn had in the palm of his hands the greatest Beatles source of all times neil aspinall. And he bloody blew it by getting into trouble with Apple by playing those tapes for the journalist and losing his good position. . He wasted a tremendous opportunity to get neil and to put something down for the record. What a terrible missed opportunity. He really blew it. All due to his ego I think this bothers him because every interview he brings it up. What a miss for the entire next generation of beatle scholars
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 er... ok
👍When delving into their stories, each of the Fab4 (Ringo less quoted than the other3) come to be more integral in the overall history & this is much appreciated.
I've heard on another podcast that Paul actually visited John the Saturday FOLLOWING the famous SNL Lorne Michaels reunion offer show, which John had seen. He suggested to Paul that they go down and claim the money anyway that Saturday, but as we know it didn't happen. This can probably be checked against Paul's known time in NYC in April 76. Actually sounds more likely than the widely accepted story.
John’s original demo is on UA-cam
A shame he couldn’t get Vol. 2 out in ten years. I’m not discounting that he’s waiting for some people to pass away first (i.e. to spare them embarrassment from uncomfortable disclosures, and/or to avoid criticism/refutations from said parties towards the book, resulting from said disclosures).
Brilliant interview. Obviously I am a little late coming to the party with these podcasts. Have to say, it’s abundantly clear Lewisohn was shafted by Apple. Why Paul wouldn’t support him is unclear. It’s stupid as no one is ever going to be a better historian on The Beatles than Lewisohn nor have a better archive. Apple would have done better keeping him on side.
Brilliant interview over two parts. Wished you would have asked him to explain why George was so against him for those that don't know the story (I don't!)
I hope that someday he will write about it at length. Like it or not, he is part of the ongoing Beatles story, certainly in the 80s/90s Anthology period. As Mark says in this interview, George perceived him, fairly or not, as Paul’s man, and maybe that was enough to cause Mark all the grief. Also, I believe there was a general paranoia around unreleased recordings being copied, which made it onto high-quality bootlegs, starting in the mid-late 80s and continuing apace into the 90s. I’d imagine suspicion fell on a lot of innocent people. There was much discussion about this in the pre-internet fan press at the time. For Mark or anyone with responsibility in the Beatles camp to have had anything to do with this would have been absurd, as they would have been cutting their own throats professionally, in a very obvious way. I’ve always thought maybe some underpaid tape op was responsible.
Mark has expanded on why George was against him in other interviews. The final spat was over Mark incorrectly getting the blame for material that was copied & got out & George refusing to believe Mark or Neil or Derek .
He was Paul’s man and George resented it. Also he was giving several journalists access to Beatles tapes and emi recording studios without permission. George felt that mark possibly could be someone leaking or copying unauthorized tapes. Olivia Harrison is not a lewisohn fan and she’s known for holding a grudge in that she cut out her own elderly sister in law from a paltry pension. There’s no proof mark leaked tape. However he is in possession of a stolen 1969 September tape of a business meeting that he was banned from playing during Hornsby road. Apple has declared holy war jihad on lewisohn. Olivia has ex mossad agents in her payroll and they are pretty ruthless so it’s fairly hard for mark to get access to information. The mossad agents names are yair and Seymour and they are trained in hand to hand combat and are highly skilled in weaponry and military intelligence
@@thekitowl self admittedly mark has possession of a stolen business tape meeting from September 1969 that he is not authorized to play in public so that’s why apple is not cooperating and why some of Olivia’s security guys ex mossad agents are very engaged in making sure archives stay with apple and not to general public 😢
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 mark has a copy of a tape, he didn’t steal it & apple stoped co operating with mark long before
the tape was revealed.
i too love the beatles...the hours of joy I've had listening to their music as solo artists as well..and garnered the overall story thru the years..but is there a point where just knowing every point is bordering on retrograde to the potential..whatever.
44:55 They talk about the medals that John Lennon supposedly borrowed to wear on the Sgt Pepper cover. If you look at the cover, Ringo is wearing the exact same medals. Where did Ringo get his medals?
53:30 "...it's that cross-generational appeatle." A portmanteau word of which both Lewis Carroll and John Lennon would have been proud, involuntary though it was.
28:53 - $5 says it's Olivia Harrison.
What do you guys think of Zoo Gang?
Turn on Tune In Drop out.
Turn on tunein drop out
51:00 didn't Ringo write yellow submarine?
No. Paul wrote yellow submarine for Ringo. Ringo wrote songs like don't pass me by and octopus's garden.
@@nigelmurphy6761 AND ALL THE OTHER RINGO SONGS PAUL WROTE
Apple is such a faceless organization now. They seem to want The Beatles story to be slick/corporate.
makes you dislike George Harrison listening to this
Sorry, was this not released the week of Mark Lewishon's visit to Dublin re Hornsey Road?
This is NOT new, and as far as I know these two with Mark never did another Podcast!
I have heard this interview nearly two years ago!
Hi Billy. We’re putting up all our old episodes now in 2021 - in the video description it’s mentioned that it was originally released in October 2019. Sorry if you were disappointed - hopefully we’ll talk to Mark again some day!
@@nothingisreal2901 Fawning fan boys does not make a great interview - You guys really didn't press him on his methods or his rationale for being terminated by Apple - Poor Job - how about asking some challenging questions? When he said the 1988 recordings book was garbage - you didn't ask a follow-up - Fucking poor job - Cmon man you are coming across as a simple minded fans with no more than a superficial knowledge of the band - You missed the whole point of asking him why he didn't cultivate the relationship with Neil as a source? As to why? You can speculate that it was because Neil fired him from apple when he played the unauthorized tapes for the journalists after anthology on Harrison's directive - Maybe Neil didn't trust Lewisohn and threw him a couple of quotes to keep him at arms length - Cmon man
@@nothingisreal2901 idiotic questions - Asking questions from your seven year old niece ? Wow - that speaks volumes of your lack of knowledge and your unprofessionalism - what a wasted opportunity -
Those who can, podcast
Those who can't, inhabit the bottom half of UA-cam n simmer with jealousy that they are unable to create.
stop doing interviews and finish the book lol
Mark lewisohn complaining about Apple is hilarious. Every author needs to be political to get information and access. His declaring a holy war on the Apple minders and management ie Jeff Jones is sheer insanity. He is just being an insufferable whiner and the ultimate loser is the fans who want his book. As a non musician he already is swimming up stream. I hope he can recognise that the musical aspects of the books will be critical and will be looked as a real failure if it doesn’t deliver