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Mick and Keith tried to warn The Beatles, John & Paul from what I’ve read about Klein because he stole or somehow acquired their Nanker Phelge publishing company.

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Paul’s main reluctance was all based on Kleins reputation which he knew (stealing Sam Cookes and the Stones publishing for instance, extending the payout of the Decca bonus to the Stones he bragged about in 1966 for twenty years, spreading his own tax liability across his partners and paying himself off the gross, etc) and Pauls desire to sign no piece of paper that tied him to Klein who had offered up his Kingsway shares as collateral to buy Northern Songs. I’d fucking stall my ass off. You add the fact that Klein tried to physically bully Paul who had arguably written 40% of their hits and there is no way Klein walks away as nothing more than a greedy animal.

Not Guilty was first released as a new reworked version on George's self-tilted 1979 album. Despite the 100 plus takes the original version wasn't great, it felt ploddy and flat. The fact they tried over 100 takes seems to lay waste to the myth the band not giving his songs a decent go. And McCartney actually helped him with each of his recordings with great contributions (bass, guitar,piano, harmonies), whilst Lennon barely bothered turning up for his later songs.

I'm going back over this as I reread things about Klein. I think the biggest thing everyone misses about Klein is this: His job was to make his clients money. He should be primarily judged on that. Also, this is the best take on Klein I have listened to on the Internet. Period. The best sources I have found on Klein are: Goodman; "Allen Klein: The man who bailed out the Beatles, made the Stones ..."; Dogget: "You Never Give Me Your Money; " ; Southall and Perry: "Northern Songs....". Now, onto my final take on your take. Klein's job is to make his clients money. He is a financial manger, not a personal manager and the distinction is important. The Beatles are also looking to secure more of their publishing and copyrights and contracts as they can. Klein's forte as manger , prior to the Beatles was in gaining more money for his clients and in creating more revenue streams for them and himself. The positive take on his career prior to the Beatles was that Klein definitely was making more money for his clients. He was also creating new revenue streams of them to make money with. The biggest criticism of Klein was that he not sharing many of those new revenue streams with his clients and that some of those revenue stream she created for himself would not have existed without his relationship with his clients. This is why the distinction between personal manager and business manager is important. For a business manger, using your clients to make yourself more money is beside the point. If you have made your clients money, your job with them is done, what you do with your own money is your own business. Even if that includes using the capital of your clients that is lying idle . That is what a bank does and there is nothing wrong with it. If one is a personal manager, then using that money should be done to enhance your clients and your own financial position. I think the Marine Faithful quote is nonsense. Either it didn't happen or if it did, it had no impact on Lennon's decision to meet with Klein on January 27th. Lennon and Ono's meeting with Klein is where Lennon makes the decision to go with him full stop. Going forward, I'm not sure if Jagger had all his ducks in a row for him to make the shift from Klein to himself/Lowenstein as the Stones business managers in January of 1969. Jagger is already working with Lowenstien in 1968 (according to Goodman) , so I think Jagger is already thinking of dumping Klein at that point in 1968. In fall of 1969, Klein is not helping the Stones with their American tour, as he did in the past, so the split between Jagger/Klein is already happening at that point. Of course, by early February 1969, Klein isn't paying the Stones much attention anyhow.

James Paul McCartney died in car crash on September 11 1966 and was replaced by William (Billy). This is the truth no matter what!

James Paul McCartney died in car crash on September 11 1966 and was replaced by William (Billy). This is the truth no matter what!

Horribale voice overe accents.

Don Arden is Sharon Osbourne's Father, not Father-in-law!!!!!!

I'd love to hear more about the beef between George and Geoff. I've read Geoffs book, and I went "Whoa, he really didn't like George much!" What was the deal?

Brilliant.

I'm here because recently (May 2024) Will Smith said "It's 2019, nothing is real." and I googled those words.

Thank You Thank You Thank You!

Excellent 4th part. So insightful. Thank You!

This is incredible!!! Thank you so much for sharing this insightful information helping explain the business side of The Beatles.

Some contentious claims being made here. Just goes to show that no one is perfect, not even The Beatles. The adulation of George is somewhat over the top, IMO. His best work gave him exclusive songwriting credits, and could have provided a template for a70s Beatles - if he hadn't been so grumpy. Unlike the Lennon/McCartney melodrama where those two were for better or worse fused together. Ringo has acknowledged that Paul's work ethic kept The Beatles going, thereby helping to create some of their greatest works. So much for bossy Paul. The thing some die-hard commentators can't acknowledge is that George had a limited vocal repertoire and couldn't solo. And he had uncomfortable body language on stage going right back to the early days. That's why he never really had a solo career, and never liked public performance. Both Paul (and John) helped sweeten up George's greatest works - Gently Weeps, Here Comes The Sun, If I needed Someone, Something. So much gor Paul being selfish. And one more thing, although Mark Lewison has many, many writing credits on the Paul bashing topic he is not the 5th Beatle and, in contrast to Beatle Paul - doesn't have a god-given right to fashion a career out of this self-appointed gig.

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5:40 actually there is an interview with George (68?) where he admits "I'm not Lennon or McCartney"--that's about the closest I've ever heard him acknowledging the pair's genius. Outside of the lyrics to All Those Years Ago, which praises John.

Ep-STINE or Ep-STEEN?

I always liked Let It Be but never got on with the production. The remix sounds better to me overall. However my go to is 'Naked' which I absolutely love and elevates the album massively to my ears.

I'm so sad that these guys have decided to end this wonderful podcast. It's been a huge favorite of mine. Isn't it a pity....

My goodness what a mess !! It’s amazing Abby Road was recorded that summer of 1969.

I lived on the same street in Chicago that Tony Cox, Kyoko and his wife after Yoko once lived on, when they were in that christian cult (a redundant phrase, I realize).

It's not in the top 100 Beatles songs, but it's a nice novelty. The Beatles as Dr. Demento.

The first time you actually hear it, you've never heard a song quite like it. It's not their greatest song but it has a magnetic quality.

Your show is great, I never knew about that Swedish album cover influencing Pepper. I saw it today for the first time. It likely did inspire Paul, but it's like a first draft compared to the finished masterpiece that is the Pepper cover. Pepper was influenced by many things, which is a component of its greatness.

I only accept Murray the K as the 5th Beatle.

The Greatest Album of All Time

I saw this at the movies in Chicago with my sister when it came out. I was a Beatles freak and she wanted to see Aerosmith (who I liked too). Both the concept and movie were awful but Aerosmith rocked. Yellow Submarine is the Sgt Pepper movie.

Great influential album but anyone saying it's better than Pepper is on more acid than Billy Shears.

It's not just a Paul album, it contains 2 of John's greatest songs.

Help is an awesome album and movie. Love it. Ticket to ride. wow. Lennon at this time was just fantastic. I respectfully disagree with your assessment. Cheers

I might rank this as their 2nd worst album after their 1st one. It has five amazing songs on it, 3-4 mediocre ones and 6 in between. My biggest problem is the sound is so muddy; especially on side 1. But what is poor for Beatle standards is still better than anything else out there by a mile.

He was after control of the Beatles and their music. He went after John because John was the weakest member, ex. He had a huge blind spot where Yoko was concerned. Klein exploited that like elhe exploited Sam Cooke's desire for fair treatment by hus label, RCA

Understand something my Irish friends...without "I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND", and it's accompying album, "MEET THE BEATLES", Beatlemania would ha have died a limited death in Europe Europe. Just ask Cliff Richard. Richard was BIG in England and throughout Europe and yet no one in the states had even heard of him (as young Harrison found out when he visited sister Louise in Illinois in 1963). As for the Epstein story, it's quite true. Geo. Martin has tried to discredit Brian for decades. Martin wanted most if not all BEATLES credit. Brian told John and Paul that if they didn't make it in the U.S., they hadn't really made it.

You don't even go into Klein's major deception and colossal rip off of Sam Cooke.

Mark uses "we" a lot.. speak for yourself Mark..I bought all McCartneys singles and albums in real time as they were released and thought each one was great .

I push back on the idea that this lawsuit rescued the Beatles finances. Quite the contrary. I think it hurt them financially. By doing this, the Beatles money was locked up from 1971-1974 in receivership. This is an enormous blow to their ability to grow their money. They could invest nothing. Not real estate, nor investments such as stocks, nor new businesses. All of this at a time when they were earning more than in any point in their collective or solo careers. That probably cost them about 10 million in interest lost just in that 4 year period. That ten million would have been worth 20 million by 1980 (at 7% interest). Double each number every 10 years and their estates would have added 320 million dollars by 2020- just from that lost interest. The number would be much higher when you add in the amounts coming from record sales during that time period. That is an enormous chunk of change.

The thing is, Paul in 1970-72, was coming off an amazing run in 1969. He had so many great songs that year (Maxwell excluded) and by 1970 he's running out of bullets. Add to that his songs are untempered by the presence of John and George songs, which removes a ton of edge to take away some of the twee factor. Then there is the factor of what he is going through personally/professionally and the beating he was taking in the press none of which could have helped his confidence. To his credit is his desire to not ape what he did with the Beatles. But the biggest problem is his inability to edit his output and present it better. All of this adds up to a consistent feeling of being underwhelmed by his albums and singles until Live and Let Die /Band on the Run. For sure, there are tons of great moments, but it can be disappointing. In hindsight, his tunes have a funky honest whimsy that isn't as grating as it was in the 70's. But trite is definitely the word to use with a ton of his solo work.

I wish he had added Another Day, Little Woman Love and Oh Woman Oh Why and dropped Smile Away, Ram On, and Long Haired Lady. And dumped Linda's vocals on just about every song. Did he have to release every song he wrote and recorded?

3rd best (from 70-80). Venus and Mars

Selling records would offer specific insights into what drives demand for the pressed plastic. So Mr. Epstein would have been tuned to the enthusiasm percolating around the Liverpool band and how it could be escalated into a world wide mania.

What is George saying in the thumbnail?

That Phil Collins joke is near genius.😅

during last novembers dublin's beatles festival, there was a quiz made by your team, was it recorded? will it be released as podcast episode eventually?

Great discussion, thank you ☺

I do wish that John had released Watching the Wheels first, then Woman, then Starting Over. Watching the Wheels was a track th public expected and it explained the 5 years previous. Woman was the best song and continues the story while explaining why he is still with her, Starting Over explains the new direction they are headed in and is the weakest of the three. I firmly believe that if that had been the release order, he would have got a top ten Album and at least two top ten singles without his death being the catalyst for that albums actual success.The concept f the album is great except it needs Yoko, and few people enjoy her music to the degree that they enjoy John's. Whatever one thinks of her music, she was an albatross comercially.

Imagine being an established professional rock guitarist named Brian Frederick Hines. Respected among your contemporaries you finally achieve ultimate success in your career by joining Paul McCartney's new band. And then Paul, your musical hero and dream boss says to you one day "I'm going to call you Denny Laine from now on. Do you like that, Denny? Do you?" And then on top of that years later you're forced to sell your share of that bands royalties back to him....

I like this better than Help and Please Please Me.

I have listened to some of your podcast episodes and I hate them.I don't hate the Beatles, I hate you two(Jason and Stephen).I think most podcast hosts are jerks and clowns and that's you two also! take you mobile phones and shove them!