Author Mark Lewisohn - Serious Jibber-Jabber with Conan O'Brien | CONAN on TBS
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- Conan talks with acclaimed Beatles biographer Mark Lewisohn whose authoritative three-volume series might be the final word on the Fab Four.
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Amazing how The Beatles found the right people at the right time. Even today The Beatles have Mark Lewisohn to tell the true story.
I agree when it comes to Klaus Voorman, George Martin, Brian Epstein etc etc., but for every one of those, there’s a Magic Alex or an Allen Klein.
@@BenjaminNavillus or a Philip Norman
We must protect Mark Lewisohn.
Dear CoCo, you have completely sold me on this book. I can't even begin to express how disappointed I am that this video has been up for nearly a year but has only amassed roughly 71,000 views. I'm not the biggest fan of your late night show, but this interview was incredible. Thank you for getting Mark Lewisohn on, and keep up the great work.
Almost an hour and a half? Thank you Conan, you always give to your fans.
Thank you for this, Conan.
I never tire listening to Mark...The Beatles had themselves, the right manager, the right crew, the right producer and now -the right historian.
and it seems, the right fan as well
Never even heard of these books till now....and I work at a used bookstore. I see ALL the Beatles books....and own and have read most of them. I'll definitely have to give these volumes a look.
Also......I LOVE the titles. The first book is called Tune In. I can only surmise the next two are....Turn On and Drop Out.
And man....what a brilliant stroke of insight to title them like that. PERFECTLY captures the band's trajectory via the metaphor of the 60s most iconic catch phrase. Tim Leary's words live on....
Ain't that the truth....!!
@@avedic Make sure to buy or get the extended version! (the two volumes). It has twice the number of pages, but it's such an easy reading! And the wealth of information is astonishing. Mark starts the book by telling us about the history of each of the Beatles families (parents, grandparents, etc), and from that he tells the complete story, weaving every different life line into one fabric (a fab one!). It's the best biography ever.
The Beatles were an overrated boyband.
These Serious Jibber-Jabbers are wonderful. Looking forward to more. Specifically to this topic, every time I think I'm "over" the Beatles, something like this comes along and reminds me just how unique and great they really were. Thanks for reigniting my interest.
Now I want a feature-length Beatles documentary hosted by Conan.
Yes!
Why? By his own admission he doesn't know anything more than most Beatle fans, surely a documentary hosted by Mark would be better?
Conan's a clown.
That would be great
Conan is the ringo of latenight
Loving this interview. I hope that this becomes a thing
I believe he has already done one or two similar segments/interviews.
He's done 15 of them. There is a playlist of them on the channel.
It's been a thing for 4 years now.
Here friends: ua-cam.com/play/PLVL8S3lUHf0TIbLusugli-_6OhbvqgMvD.html
Team Coco - why do you make some of the videos you post on UA-cam ONLY for US audiences? We non-Americans would love to laugh too, you know!
Dear Mr Conan O'Brian, please consider doing podcasts. Your charisma and natural sense of humor translates even better in this format.
Agreed. I can't turn this off.
Your prayers have been answered!
You called it!
No charisma. Only annoying.
@@amycrunch3812 so why are you watching this?
That was a great interview. Thank you Mark Lewisohn and Conan O'Brien, cannot wait for Vol 2 .
Mark Lewisohn says the second volume, Turn On, will be out no earlier than June 2023.
One is enough for me thank you
Conan, have you thought about doing a podcast? You would be really good at it.
Isn't this like a podcast?
Dejay Rezme I meant like a regular thing.
Aniruddha Sharma Well yeah ok. But I think he's too busy
Yeah! Conan is too busy!!! Leave him alone! lol
Conan, don't listen to the man. We love your different projects, but your show is the best. Aniruddha, stop to distract the man ;-)
Great interview. Really cool to see the reverence Conan has for The Beatles.
Conan, for all your amazing videos over the last couple of years when I've paid attention, this has to be my favourite. Thank you. Didn't know you were such a fan.
I looove this bits. Conan is so intelligent and I just love listening to him talking in a serious manner (:
Kristina, you give "coco" too much credit.
@@chipgaasche4933 Oh, that surely is one way to see it! Whereas the other would be: it is quite possible that you're "a dumb areshole".
I can't wait to read the chapter about The Beatles going to Japan. They were influential everywhere, obviously, but their impact on Japanese entertainment in general was incredible.
How so, given that they were there in 1966 for only a few days?
@@Wired4Life2 I know this is about a month late, but this is my explanation on why The Beatles made a big impact in Japan ( anyone more knowledgeable can correct me!). Post-war Japan was becoming more westernized due to American occupation, creating a push back movement against western culture to maintain Japanese culture. The Beatles performed at the Budokan, the first Western musical group to perform at the building. Infact, not even Japanese musicians performed there, only martial arts. So when The Beatles arrived in Japan, they were met with anger by Japanese far-right extremists, to the point where they were not allowed outside their hotel due to safety. Nevertheless, Their Japan Concert made a huge impact on the Japanese youth and brought the British wave to Japan. The music scene in Japan at the time ( and during the 90s as Shibuya-kei) was very influenced by The Beatles and other British invasion bands.
I don’t know if you’ve read the book by now but it ends on New Years of 1963 right before please please me comes out. Volume 2 or 3 will cover that.
Totally agree with you. There are Beatles cover bands in Japan that put most American Beatles cover bands to shame. The Japanese by tradition are something akin to Germans - I know the irony is there - they take pride in their craft,and craftsmanship .
No two countries could be more ideologically opposed than the Philippine’s ,and the Japanese . Asia is a large continent …
Mark is never less than supremely entertaining - a knowledgeable approach from Conan too. Me and my 28 year-old son recently went to Mark’s presentation on Abbey Road (‘Hornsey Road’) in Bristol, and it was brilliant. Loved Mark’s British humour at the end too..... “thank you for the clap”!!
I'm 3.5 years late on finding this interview, but thank you Mark, thank you Conan. Seriously great interview. Was riveted the whole time, did not want the interview to end...thank you, again!
I just love how George Martin was forced to shelve "How Do You Do It" because Ardmore & Beechwood, EMI's publishing company (who had conspired with EMI higher-ups to have Martin sign The Beatles as an indirect punishment for his affair and eventual marriage with a secretary), insisted that a composition by Lennon/McCartney (with whom they wanted to create business ties with, sensing their budding songwriting prowess) be on the A-Side. That incensed "How Do You Do It" composer Mitch Murray and the publishing company he was working with, who insisted that their song be the A-side, and they ultimately took their song back as a result, leaving Martin with no choice but to shelve it and to turn to Lennon-McCartney songs. This all happened in the week following The Beatles recording "How Do You Do It".
That was pretty amazing, not at all like the story that had been told by George Martin over the years. A story he told so many times, he honestly thought it was the truth. I’m kind of relieved George isn’t around to face follow up questioning about this, he always seemed like a good man.
@@stevestroh2267
To be fair to George, saying the truth would put a spotlight on his infidelity, which he would feel uncomfortable about talking about in public.
@@cremetangerine82 Not to mention there was a risk of dragging in Judy to the story, who was a very posh lady indeed and not someone he wanted in the tabloids. I'm fairly convinced that is the major reason for his "faulty memory" about the Beatles signing process, and I have a hard time believing he actually forgot this as time passed by.
_The Beatles_ rearranged _How Do You Do It_ to the annoyance of Mitch Murray. They greatly improved it.
Conan looks like a dad visiting a school event.
well played
Thanks Conan and friends. Mark was such a great guest at Beatlefest a couple years ago. A true class act!
Great watch and insight into The Beatles history. Conan should try and do more of these serious jibber-jabbers or perhaps even a weekly/bi-weekly podcast about anything he can.
I’m 29 hours into the audio book for volume one. It’s a brilliant book and so extremely detailed, I am officially a fan
always a great way to spend an hour, great ep
Conan should do a podcast
beatles are still my favorite.. i love other musicians/bands but the beatles are on another frequency..
I totally agree. They are in their own league! My favorite is all time!
Not a Beatles maniac. Wasn't going to bother with this interview. Excellent as always Coco. You need to do more of these please.
if you havent listened to the beatles with a solid pair of headphones, you really haven't listened to the beatles...
Yeah, but also a lot of their old stereo mixes sound like poop in headphones.
If you haven't heard the Beatles on Vinyl, you haven't heard the Beatles right.
Alex Nanton If you haven’t listened to the Beatles whilst tripping on lsd, then you haven’t really listened to the Beatles.
If you haven't listened to the Beatles on a ACDelco car radio, AM band, you haven't really listened to the Beatles.
What a monumentally stupid comment, alex.
I guess almost everyone old enough to have been around when the Beatles were doing their thing was touched by them in some way, and as the author says, everyone in a different way. I was 6 when I received a toy drum set for Christmas, after which my mother brought home Meet The Beatles. Of course I would play my toy drums right along with the record, and it was a blast.
Those "upbeat melody with a downbeat lyric" Goffin-King songs Mark mentions included "Will You Love Me Tomorrow?", which The Beatles used to cover (with John singing lead). There are tragically no recordings of them playing this song, so you're left to imagine just how amazing that must have sounded...
This was a damn good interview. I like this format, and the length doesn't particularly bother me. Its a lot like Charlie Rose actually. I'd like to see him do the same thing with scientists, maybe Richard Dawkins though he may be too divisive politically. Neil Degrasse Tyson would be a good guest for a format like this. Lawrence Krauss from ASU Origins... etc.
Never disappointed in these. Not entirely a The Beatles fan, of a younger generation, but Conan always makes these conversations interesting. More please.
You're not a fan YET! don't worry,it'll come.
Conan always asks good questions, he's heavily researched this interview and it shows. Conan's interview with Paul was also the best there has ever been, he did not suck up to him like a lot of interviewers do and he brought out his humour. He didn't hit the Paul Mccartney jukebox button and get the same stories that we hear every time from interviewers.
I hope him and Mark speak again for the next book!
The Beatles were a phenomenon that sadly can never ever happen again. Great interview
Much as I love the podcast I miss these jibber jabber interviews. And this is my favorite, as a huge beatle and Conan fan. I probably watched this half a dozen times by now.
"I hate talking about the Beatles as icons and legends. Anyway, on to these miracles."
Miracles vs icons and legends. Sounds like Ionian vs ... I forget the other one.
@@p0llenp0ny Dorian
George's "You weren't there" barb is fatuous. He could be a dismissive boor. We'd not have many of the best history books ever written if we only had ones written by people who "were there". This is a great interview, by the way. Conan knows his stuff and Lewisohn is a relaxed and beguiling guest.
Thanks for making me feel less crazy for being obsessed with this band that broke up fifty years ago.
Love Lewisohn's books.:)
Great interview can't wait for volumes 2 and 3
Barry DesLauriers Me too. But we’re going to have to be patient.
@Jim McCracken He wasn't the only one there. ML talks to loads of people.
@Jim McCracken I have heard him express regret that he can't now speak to Neil. Especially a post Apple Neil that could speak freely. Magic Alex would have been interesting also, but he did try and get hold of him before he died.
MORE JIBBER JABER!!!!!! YAAAAAAS!
I like Conan even more now that he is a Beatles fan
Mark writes this book in formidable fashion and I find myself coming back to it again and again. Nothing else compares and I am so fascinated with the early Beatles, so this book has helped me in growing the 'flame' that I have. Thank you both for this interview. I loved it.
I also loved how, when reading early on in the book about when John, Paul, and George conspired to have Eric Griffiths out of The Quarrymen and coaxed then-manager Nigel Walley to fire Eric separately, I immediately thought, "Yup, this will happen again with Pete Best."
The greatest rock 'n' roll band of all time! They are in their own echelon above all others, and we shall not see the likes of them again...
I wish Conan would do more of these Serious Jibber Jabber interviews especially since Charlie Rose’s creepy ass is done.
nice to see talk show host conduct a proper interview and let the guest speak at length!
Yes!
George Harrison confronting Lewisohn: "How can you write about us, you weren't there?" Problem with that premise is that someone like Geoff Emerick, who was there, thought George not to be a good guitarist. Obviously, what does Emerick know!
So refreshing seeing serious Conan. I love funny Conan but his Harvard education really shines here. It’s nice to see his other side.
Please respond if there is any nudity in this so I can come back and watch.
Conan gets naked around the 7 minute mark
+Pig Shig dayum!
+Pig Shig I can't believe I actually tried to find it
I love the Beatles! And I loved this interview!
Two genuine and intelligent gentleman.
More please! Awesome to see Conan put on his PBS face and ask insightful questions. I say this as someone painfully uninterested in the Beatles.
Loved it...Really...Really ...GREAT...we need more of this...; )
Similarly to Conan, it was a running joke, that whenever me and a few of my friends would go to the local pub, the conversation would inevitably always end up being about The Beatles.
Mark has the most serious case of Beatlejuice running through his veins, it's not contagious but once you contract this affliction it never leaves your body. I know of many suffering from the Beatlejuice for over 50 years.
I've been infected with Beatlejuice for about 9 years and it hasn't diminished even slightly.
The extended 2-volume set of 'Tune In' is amazing. Thoroughly
researched Beatles history by Mr. Lewisohn, but never boring. Good interview by the 'serious' Conan!
They were Irish their ancestors were driven out of Ireland in the genocide of the 18th century Many Irish including Elvis's families went to Liverpool to get the ships to America. Many families got trapped in Liverpool and its how you have the Liverpool Irish
They carried on the Irish tradition of sitting around the kitchen table singing and playing music they carried on the tradition of the Seanchai the storytellers.
Lennon's came for County Leitrim Harrison's County Wexford McCartney's Country Cork originally and his mothers family from County Monaghan Even Ringo had Galway blood in him
Elvis's family came fro Country Carlow 1775 and they were dis-possessed from their animals and lands like millions of other Irish through the Penal Laws
On their arrival in Dublin 1963 the interviewer said they wanted to speak to the Irish man Harrison and Lennon jumped in and said
"Hey we are all Irish except Ringo he is an Anglo" yes a good Irish/Liverpool folk band
The Irish connection in Liverpool is over-hyped.
funnier than any of the stand up on this channel
What a wonderful interview, you think you know all there is to know on the Beatles, then Tune In comes out , hopefully volumes 2 and 3 will be released soon.
I do love Mark is not trying to denigrate Pete Best. In any other group, Pete would’ve been a competent drummer who plays 4/4 or occasional 3/4 time songs. He would show up to the gigs and studio sessions, and not be expected to spend so much time together and have similar cultural references and sense of humor. The Beatles weren’t like every other group, which made them special, but a poor fit for Pete. It’s unfortunate that he is known for being in the Beatles before they exploded, but the irony is that the last Beatle to join (Ringo) is what made them even more unique.
this guy rly likes the beatles...
What I like about The Beatles is that they've given the world the enjoyment and pleasure that religions can only claim to give.
R.I.P Muhammad Ali
Ugh..I admired Ali but can people stop spamming this randomly everywhere
Stfu
Great interview.....I love Mark Lewisohn & I think Conan is doing an awesome job interviewing him. However, a small correction needed at 13:01. John was not the eldest in the group. Ringo was 3 mths older than John, i.e. 7th July 1940 versus 9th October 1940....... Whoops, sorry.......
I don't think Ringo was in the band at the time as Pete Best was the drummer, and he was born in 41.
I'll preface this saying I've never found Conan particularly funny, almost to the point of uncomfortable. With that said . Whenever Ive see him speak off the cuff or well informed on any given subject , I believe he is the most engaging and accomplished of anyone I could think of. In my opinion he could be a contemporary of Edward R. Murrow.
( I'm not only a Beatles fan myself, I played George in the first incarnation of the Broadway show Beatlemania , circa Feb.1977 .
I was sacked after three weeks of rehearsals . Point being I know the sings technically. )
This was a very enlightening interview. The thing that struck me the most was the idea of Paul giving pushback to Brian. I would hope Brian gets his due. As Brian lived for the Beatles from day one. He put his time,money and talent into promoting the group. Without Brian being the first outside cog/conduit in the phenomenon, history would not be reading itself today on this subject . As was mentioned ,there were so many variables as to why the Beatles could have imploded,rather than exploded . Brian and George Martin came together at a point in history, just like the four boys from Liverpool.
The dialogue between Mark and Conan was great, Conan knew his subject well.
As a musician I have to take the liberty to assess the music.
The early material is paramount .
The first UK album, Please,Please Me had possibly three standout songs . In all honesty there was a bit of cover filler on that album.
However !
There is something that is grossly overlooked in the Beatles canon . If I'm recalling correctly both "Please,Please Me" and "With the Beatles" were both released in the UK in nineteen sixty three ( 1963 ) .
The general consensus being the quantum leap came between Help and Rubber Soul, which is a pretty sound argument .
BUT !
The Beatles second album was so much more sophisticated musically. I couldn't believe how quickly they developed as songwriters musically and vocally.
"With the Beatles "
Listen to "It Won't Be Long " ( you know the song about Viagra ) this song occupies a diminished chord .
The chord changes and call response harmonies were a preview of what was to come.
"All My Loving" and "Hold Me Tight" were also on the album.
All composed by Lennon/ McCartney. Remember also the Beatles had recorded " I Want To Hold Your Hand " and " This Boy " in 1963 as well . ( during With the Beatles sessions )
On Please ,Please Me you also had gems of course . "I Saw Her Standing There" "Please ,Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" ( which has an Augmented chord )
Point being there was a drastic leap in the songwriting .
There is so much to say on the subject of the Beatles .
I've been fortunate enough to spend time with George and have met and talked to Paul on a few occasions, one of the most charming and diplomatic people I've ever met.
I'll put it this way .
If you didn't know he was possibly one of the most celebrated people in the world , he would not give you reason to believe otherwise .
Great interview !
I do believe in "destiny" and the Beatles were destined. Just like Tom Brady, Elvis, Michael Jackson, JFK, etc.....any other figure in history it applies. So, many things can happen to derail but yet it still happens. That is destiny!
I disagree with Lewisohn on the point of Liverpool sailors influence in the introduction and expansion of rock music in Liverpool. The was a specific group of Liverpool merchant seamen called the _Cunard Yanks._ They did the Liverpool north eastern USA runs - thousands of them. They would be distinctive in that they wore American clothes unavailable in Liverpool. They would also bring back clothes to order for friends and relatives. They would also bring back American records that were not _mainstream_ in Liverpool, that were never played on the highly restricted radio in the UK. These records were available to order for sure, but you needed to have heard them first and know the artist and name of the record, then it could be obtained. The _Cunard Yanks_ would hear these records on US radio and in dance halls, bars and clubs.
I recall my elder sister listening to records my cousin had brought back from the USA. Gerry Marsden of Gerry and the Pacemakers openly said he got hold of obscure American records from _Cunard Yanks._
Last time I looked Gerry Marsden wasn't in The Beatles so I'll stick with Mr. Lewisohn's view on this.
@@Omegaman69
Coming from Liverpool and being there, I will stick to my view.
Now I want to hear the recording of the lunch afterwards with Conan and his friend and perhaps Lewisohn to talk Beatles.
I must have watched this interview 5 or 6 times at least over the years and everytime I'm blown away by how interesting the conversation is
Never seen Conan this serious
The Real gospel according to Mark :)
I have never heard of O'Brien, however he appears to be well known in the USA. He does take all this very seriously, with his knowledge impressive.
He's had a late night comedy show since the early 1990s. He plays guitar though.
I so look forward to these. Conan just sitting down, and talking serious. Mostly...
Don't worry, Conan! You're an aficionado, not a nerd! I'm 69. Christmas presents in '63? Stella guitar and Meet the Beatles album. Watched Sullivan. Spent next 40 years as professional guitarist. Nerd?!? Nay, I say! I am one of a legion of youngsters who fell headlong into the music of this band of brothers. To this day, I study every nuance, inflection, intonation and cadence. And I humbly submit that the historical events and vagaries of circumstance combined to produce the mystical group known as The Beatles.
I know it's a little old to post on this video (and other jibber jabber videos) but I think it's so entertaining for Conan to discuss historical topics with authors and the like. You can tell the passion he has for this sort of stuff and it messes perfectly with his interview style. I'm begging you guys at team Coco and tbs, please continue doing this video series or ones like it
Mr. Lewisohn and Mr. O'Brien we are sure glad this did happen! Thank you. More Please!
Incredible. Great job by Conan. One of the best interviews of Mark Lewishon or about the Beatles I've seen. Such great questions asked.
This makes my evening. Every time there is a new Jibber-Jabber my phone is switched off, I grab a cold beer and enjoy a great talk about interesting things. Perfect!
I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the next volume. Tune In was great.
I hope this is the year..
Conan is really funny and talented, but this series' default interviewee of successful white men is seriously disappointing.
The subject is The Beatles. A subject he knows.
I love these things. Enjoy serious Conan
Gotta love Conan. Not the best interviewer in the world but he is a Beatle nut like myself which was a help AND Lewisohn probably doesn't need an interviewer. He couldn't be more interesting especially considering his subject.
Any more conan beatle videos?
Great interview...that Conan fella is good.
Good interview watched it a week ago on the Team Coco app. I'm mad that no new videos were uploaded from last week though ☹️
I love to see Conan serious like this. Awesome, keep it up!
Lol this is Conan's best work! Guy is freaking hilarious!👍👌😉
poor conan. he's sick in this. I can tell. he is a real trooper. xo
Conan is spot on with what he says, starting at 2:35, I found Paul's interviews Anthology interviews to be trying.
CONAN! HAVE A WOMAN! Love the show though and like your work
You gotta bring Serious Jibber-Jabber back Conan!
Give the people what they want: THIS IN A PODCAST. It's great stuff!
Conan's intro is bang on. If you're seriously into The Beatles, musically, culturally, historically, Mark Lewisohn's the only person who can make you feel like a newcomer. And it's a great feeling, for a number of reasons, not least of which is the fact that every solid Beatles fan gets to a point where they're reading or hearing the same information, or variations on themes, over and over. Lewisohn is 'the source'.
He's not "the source". He's just able to reach the sources. Apart from that, the guy has zero emotional intelligence.
The shoes were called “winkle pickers” I believe and “teddy boys” wore them.
please do an interview with Angela Duckworth,!!!You both share the same philosophy of life,her research proves a lot of your point about life achievement :)
this is lovely. Conan is really good at this
I dont think that Ringo is really mad at George Martin aftern all of these years. I believe it`s just something to say all of these years later. Ringo knows that's how things were done in English recording studios back in the day. They always say it was standard procedure to bring in a studio musician/drummer.
Slight gaffe: John, Paul and George are basically Irish. The joke falls a little flat, though the accent us definitely off.
Can you guys put these conversations up as a podcast on iTunes? The video is nice, but you get 90% of the content with just audio and these would be incredible for car rides, etc. I'm sure I am not the only fan who would love that.
7:11 " the story is miraculous "