Full size trucks have gotten too big. Unless you are a contractor or rancher that hauls regularly or tows a trailer they are way too big for daily driving. The mid size trucks are the size of full size trucks from the 1990's and 2000's
Why I stopped buying Subaru Foresters and went to a subcompact SUV. Each redesign got bigger and bigger and then it was too big for my garage, or for me to drive safely.
I’ve seen that said a lot but they really aren’t as roomy. I have a 2023 frontier crew cab and it is nowhere near as roomy as the 2010 Silverado extended cab I had before it.
I bought my wife a 2019 ZR2 baby max. Love it! Had the shudder in the trans but we finally swapped to Mobil 1 fluid and now the trans works better than it ever has. Great truck. Hauled hay, another full size pickup, tractor.
Unless you don’t have room to park a full size truck in your driveway, there is no upside to buying a midsize. They don’t get any better fuel mileage, aren’t much less expensive if at all, and are nowhere near as comfortable as a full size.
They’re way more nimble than a full-size, have just as good a payload in many cases, easier to navigate and park in busy areas, and are better off-roading. They fit in your garage, are safer for others on the roads than their bigger albatross siblings, and can do about anything most normal people need. They’re cheaper and generally get better mpg, even if slightly. But yeah, other than that, there’s no upside to getting a midsize. 😏
@@jasonmoore6448most people don’t off road their trucks. They are very marginally less expensive and often are as expensive if not more than some full size (see new Tacoma prices) Many full size trucks get better mpg than mid size. I have a Nissan frontier and it’s a good truck but I absolutely miss the comfort of my old Silverado. The 2023 frontier averages about 17-18 mpg, which is very close to what I got with a 2010 Silverado with a 5.3 V8. There is a reason many, many more full size trucks are sold.
The Colorado engine an an Lt trim can get you 19mpg on the street and 23mpg on the highway while a Silverado LT gives you 18/21mpg it's a marginal difference but cumulatively it's a considerable difference.
The “gap adjustment” on a lot of GM cars just changes the forward collision warning distance. It’s very misleading and it’s hard to look for used cars that have it because when you’re looking at photos of the steering wheel, all of the cars have that symbol
6:00 "Most practical vehicle in the fleet sometimes". This is why minivans are pretty much dead. 5 years ago Jen commented that SUVs were more practical than minivans. Not knocking trucks but good luck putting in carseats without difficulty if you have a bad back. Very few people are willing to buy the practical vehicle because it makes them uncool at the expense of their wallet.
CR needs to start testing good height, visibility, and dangers if you’re hit by one of these heavy trucks. They’re all for safety and this is a safety issue
Small trucks do have a place in the US market but thanks to loop holes in the gas mileage standards, chicken tax and Americans thinking that luxury = big is why they went away. I really hope that GM, Honda, Nissan, Ram, and even Subaru look at bringing smaller life style trucks. Secondly, Toyota is 100% depended on its reliability. Besides their Supra and GR86, which aren’t even fully made by them, Toyota is boring. Truthfully that’s why Honda has always been such a good companion. Honda has the reliability but doesn’t feel dull to drive. Same could be said for Mazda. Nissan went cheap so they are not as reliable and Subaru is 50/50, but theyre going for a different market. I agree though that I’d never want to own a Dodge , Chrysler or Jeep due to reliability, they do know how to bring a lot of excitement to their brands with colors, special trim names and other fun gimmicks.
The Honda Ridgeline is a good choice for residential customers who don't need huge towing or extreme off-roading. How does it compare to the Colorado or Ranger?
Toyota has been playing the conservative approach to building cars for awhile. The incremental improvements really do build up. Can't wait to see y'alls comparison of the new tacoma, new colorado, new ranger, and oldish frontier.
If you want a car that is fun to drive and reliable, get a Mazda. It is still very reliable (almost as good as Toyota) and they last a long time. They are cheaper as well because Toyota in general is very expensive now with no discounting at all.
I'm just curious as I'm planning on getting a PHEV, not a full-on EV. IF EV's wear out tires faster than non-EV's, then why aren't the EV OEM tires designed to withstand the extra weight and torque instead of having to be replaced so often? Torque amongst yourselves before you answer (pun intended).
Full size trucks have gotten too big. Unless you are a contractor or rancher that hauls regularly or tows a trailer they are way too big for daily driving.
The mid size trucks are the size of full size trucks from the 1990's and 2000's
Why I stopped buying Subaru Foresters and went to a subcompact SUV. Each redesign got bigger and bigger and then it was too big for my garage, or for me to drive safely.
I’ve seen that said a lot but they really aren’t as roomy. I have a 2023 frontier crew cab and it is nowhere near as roomy as the 2010 Silverado extended cab I had before it.
People have also gotten bigger...
I bought my wife a 2019 ZR2 baby max. Love it! Had the shudder in the trans but we finally swapped to Mobil 1 fluid and now the trans works better than it ever has. Great truck. Hauled hay, another full size pickup, tractor.
Unless you don’t have room to park a full size truck in your driveway, there is no upside to buying a midsize. They don’t get any better fuel mileage, aren’t much less expensive if at all, and are nowhere near as comfortable as a full size.
They’re way more nimble than a full-size, have just as good a payload in many cases, easier to navigate and park in busy areas, and are better off-roading. They fit in your garage, are safer for others on the roads than their bigger albatross siblings, and can do about anything most normal people need. They’re cheaper and generally get better mpg, even if slightly. But yeah, other than that, there’s no upside to getting a midsize. 😏
@@jasonmoore6448most people don’t off road their trucks. They are very marginally less expensive and often are as expensive if not more than some full size (see new Tacoma prices) Many full size trucks get better mpg than mid size. I have a Nissan frontier and it’s a good truck but I absolutely miss the comfort of my old Silverado. The 2023 frontier averages about 17-18 mpg, which is very close to what I got with a 2010 Silverado with a 5.3 V8. There is a reason many, many more full size trucks are sold.
The Colorado engine an an Lt trim can get you 19mpg on the street and 23mpg on the highway while a Silverado LT gives you 18/21mpg it's a marginal difference but cumulatively it's a considerable difference.
@@robertopicsthe midsize will save you at least $20 a year in gas.
The “gap adjustment” on a lot of GM cars just changes the forward collision warning distance. It’s very misleading and it’s hard to look for used cars that have it because when you’re looking at photos of the steering wheel, all of the cars have that symbol
The mid-level tune on the 2.7 that you have 310/390 is for 2023 only. 2024+ have either the base tune or the top level one with 310/430.
6:00 "Most practical vehicle in the fleet sometimes". This is why minivans are pretty much dead. 5 years ago Jen commented that SUVs were more practical than minivans. Not knocking trucks but good luck putting in carseats without difficulty if you have a bad back. Very few people are willing to buy the practical vehicle because it makes them uncool at the expense of their wallet.
CR needs to start testing good height, visibility, and dangers if you’re hit by one of these heavy trucks. They’re all for safety and this is a safety issue
Not sure what the point of a short-bed truck is?
To haul things. 99% of truck beds are empty if you ever look in them.
Great content guys thank you 🙏
Small trucks do have a place in the US market but thanks to loop holes in the gas mileage standards, chicken tax and Americans thinking that luxury = big is why they went away. I really hope that GM, Honda, Nissan, Ram, and even Subaru look at bringing smaller life style trucks.
Secondly, Toyota is 100% depended on its reliability. Besides their Supra and GR86, which aren’t even fully made by them, Toyota is boring. Truthfully that’s why Honda has always been such a good companion. Honda has the reliability but doesn’t feel dull to drive. Same could be said for Mazda. Nissan went cheap so they are not as reliable and Subaru is 50/50, but theyre going for a different market. I agree though that I’d never want to own a Dodge , Chrysler or Jeep due to reliability, they do know how to bring a lot of excitement to their brands with colors, special trim names and other fun gimmicks.
The Honda Ridgeline is a good choice for residential customers who don't need huge towing or extreme off-roading. How does it compare to the Colorado or Ranger?
Model 3 in chill mode or even Y eith just RWD does not eat tires... we go though 50k on a set, just don't use gas pedal as an on/off switch.
Quite a love fest, I liked Chevy pick-ups that is until my transmission died @ 30k on my Silverado now I know they are crap expensive crap😝
It’s a sad state of affairs in the US when those tiny kei-trucks in Japan have the same size bed as mid/full-sized trucks in the US.
Hi , question what do you do with your vehicles after testing, 1st year ?
As they alwsys say lik3 100 times
, mostly sold internally.
They most likely just trade them in on their next purchase. They buy a lot of cars.
they sell them
They sell them. Sometimes, CR employees buy them if interested
Not enough rear leg room even for kids.
The back seats in all mid size trucks are basically just for storage.
100% It's amazing how big these SUV's and trucks have gotten, but leg room still gets neglected.
What if killing flies at 100m and 120m?
Toyota has been playing the conservative approach to building cars for awhile. The incremental improvements really do build up. Can't wait to see y'alls comparison of the new tacoma, new colorado, new ranger, and oldish frontier.
Needs v6 not everyone wants turbo 4
Best 2024 mid-size Chevy?
Hi I'm Mike Crossen, I'm Mike Monticello and I'm the third Mike - Mike Quincy. Welcome to the show.
What is the bet of Chevys small cars?
If you want a car that is fun to drive and reliable, get a Mazda. It is still very reliable (almost as good as Toyota) and they last a long time. They are cheaper as well because Toyota in general is very expensive now with no discounting at all.
I'm just curious as I'm planning on getting a PHEV, not a full-on EV. IF EV's wear out tires faster than non-EV's, then why aren't the EV OEM tires designed to withstand the extra weight and torque instead of having to be replaced so often? Torque amongst yourselves before you answer (pun intended).
I wish you guys would stop trying to make excuses for Chevrolet.In general motors that truck is a piece of junk
Not "Almost", they are as big as full size used to be.
All unintended consequences of CAFE standards.
No they aren’t, they are not near as roomy as a full size truck from
15 years ago.
Are we still romanticizing the highway nature of a *truck* just because it's diesel? Yikes.
Steve is low-key buff.
I just can’t these guys seriously
Why not?