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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
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    This week, we share our early impressions of the 2025 Toyota Camry. While Toyota didn’t revolutionize the 2025 model, it gets a big powertrain update, as every Camry will only come as a hybrid. We discuss why this change shouldn’t scare longtime Camry lovers and why Toyota’s reliability record should boost buyers’ confidence. Plus, we answer questions about legacy CR vehicle tests and EV home chargers.
    SHOW NOTES:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:27 - 2025 Toyota Camry Overview
    0:47 - Hybrid powertrain
    2:23 - Fuel economy
    3:20 - 2025 model updates
    4:32 - Driving impressions
    8:30 - Infotainment and usability
    10:00 - Seat comfort
    12:23 - Toyota reliability
    14:09 - Maintenance, 0W8 motor oil
    17:40 - Question #1: CR Ratings, ‘Not Recommended vs. Not Acceptable’
    24:55 - Question #2: EV Home charging options
    LINKS:
    Toyota Camry: www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
    First Drive: 2025 Toyota Camry Proves a Bit Better in Many Ways: www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 202

  • @BK-oc6lb
    @BK-oc6lb 20 днів тому +59

    The car itself is fine, the issue with Toyota right now is the buying experience: Between chronic low inventory, dealer add-ons, market adjustments, and not being able to custom order, it’s a hard no for me.
    Up until 2 mos ago, I had owned Camry’s since ‘04 (6 in total)- No more,
    Toyota dealers (at least near me) absolutely suck

    • @1Springloaded
      @1Springloaded 20 днів тому +4

      Toyota of Hemet. It's located in the California desert. Inland empire area. They sold me a 25 SE $2.454 under MSRP.
      I got it less than a week ago.

    • @shawnbl2048
      @shawnbl2048 20 днів тому +2

      They suck here in PA too. But due to the demand for toyota products it's take it or leave it we have 10 more buyers waiting for it.

    • @6mtzhp55
      @6mtzhp55 20 днів тому +2

      I expected this too, but surprisingly they're selling for MSRP or even a little less around here. No stupid Pulse junk either. The inventory problem I see is they're almost all LE trim, seriously like 9 LEs for every one XLE or XSE when searching inventory.

    • @jeretso
      @jeretso 19 днів тому +1

      Demand will get intense because the Accord looks like a Buick.

    • @projectrazorcrest3335
      @projectrazorcrest3335 19 днів тому +2

      @@6mtzhp55 my experience is the opposite. So many SE and XLE but barely any LE's. Prefer LE due to cloth seats in the PHX weather

  • @saadtheman1
    @saadtheman1 20 днів тому +35

    Better engine, more power, better efficiency, way more tech features, better driving dynamics, quieter...
    Its much better than accord

    • @benhaze1010
      @benhaze1010 18 днів тому +2

      Better engine on what basis?? The V6 was good enough for Lotus to take it. Need to put your thoughts in perspective.

    • @coniccinoc
      @coniccinoc 18 днів тому +2

      Accord has a much better stereo : )

    • @grizzybear9111
      @grizzybear9111 5 днів тому +1

      Accord gas a way nicer interior in my opinion

  • @jggrjk
    @jggrjk 20 днів тому +40

    Finally reviewing a car most of us can afford and isn’t an EV

  • @seethingsclearlyawaken3424
    @seethingsclearlyawaken3424 12 днів тому +4

    I have been an admirer of the Toyota hybrids forever! I think this was a good move by Toyota. For all you people that have never owned a Toyota Camry hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, Prius, Avalon hybrid, Corolla hybrid, they are great. You will love them as much as I do. Thanks Consumer Reports! You guys are incredible for speaking TRUTH! Keep it up.

  • @davidhancock91
    @davidhancock91 20 днів тому +77

    Why on earth would you buy a Tesla over a Camry that gives you no problems, cheap to buy and run, and great resale, well built , and will run for 30 years.

    • @carljaekle
      @carljaekle 20 днів тому +11

      Several reasons, my Tesla has instant torque, unmatched by any gas car or hybrid. Amazing performance, and gets over 130 MPGe. A lot of tech not available from other brands. Most people don't keep cars 30 years. I am planning on 6-8. CR just confirmed that Teslas are cheapest cars to maintain of any brand. I do respect Toyota going to an all hybrid line up with the new Camry. Fuel efficiency is very important.

    • @JosephCFarmer
      @JosephCFarmer 20 днів тому +1

      Many car buyers don't make car purchasing decisions valuing any of those things.

    • @danymanchster1759
      @danymanchster1759 20 днів тому +6

      would not say cheap anymore

    • @Noah_E
      @Noah_E 20 днів тому +3

      And it probably won't spy on you and send everything that happens in and around the vehicle to Toyota HQ where compromising or embarrassing situations can be shared amongst employees. Tesla has been caught doing that.

    • @chuckwalla2967
      @chuckwalla2967 20 днів тому +5

      It will last 30 years if one is willing to spend the money to keep fixing it and parts are available down the road.

  • @tommiller12345
    @tommiller12345 20 днів тому +18

    I’m sure the quick oil change shops will use any cheap oil in the Camry. The customer will never know as long as the oil is brown. The business competes on price and doesn’t want to lose a customer. CR should test the shops.

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 20 днів тому

      if the oil is brown it's dirty. 😉 it should be almost clear/transparent.

    • @bbgator1
      @bbgator1 20 днів тому +1

      Synthetic oil has been cheap for years. There is crazy markup at dealerships. But if you do the oil change yourself very little price difference. I think they are looking for things to talk about

    • @jeretso
      @jeretso 19 днів тому

      I try to drive like grandma and follow the severe oil change schedule

    • @oskarngo9138
      @oskarngo9138 9 днів тому

      Just buy your oil/filter....take it to oil-change place...

  • @Modeltrainscarsstereos614
    @Modeltrainscarsstereos614 20 днів тому +12

    Camry is a great vehicle so glad they haven’t screwed it up with a turbo

  • @Modeltrainscarsstereos614
    @Modeltrainscarsstereos614 20 днів тому +22

    No need to get a Prius now

    • @reachblowsdick7222
      @reachblowsdick7222 16 днів тому

      The Prius gets more mpg, and if choosing a hybrid Camry that gets 5-10 more mpg than a non hybrid Camry. You can bet that a Prius that gets 10-15 more mpg will seem like a worthy purchase.

    • @jxmar_
      @jxmar_ 15 днів тому

      Not really bc if you want the size of the Corolla but want more power and style than the Corolla hybrid you get the Prius

    • @rncondie
      @rncondie 6 днів тому

      If you are taller than 6’1” your choice in sedans is the Camry with no sunroof. The Corolla and Prius are too small and at 6’2” my head hits the roof in the Corolla.

  • @kurthunter5206
    @kurthunter5206 18 днів тому +4

    For me as long as Toyotas comes with a spare tire, I'll choose Toyota. Great episode!

  • @Steve_in_NJ
    @Steve_in_NJ 18 днів тому +3

    My husband has a 2023 Camry ICE -- only because back then, the delivery time for the hybrid version was 8 months and his Honda Accord lease was up in 2. He loves it and will lease another Camry in 2026. With all of them hybrids now, there's no lag in getting one. Me on the other hand, did like the blandness of the Corolla Cross, so I lease a KIA Niro EV. Love my EV (would never get a Tesla) and in 2027, can turn it in for another EV (or hybrid), as who knows where we are with EV and hybrid batteries by then. Oh, and since we park inside our garage, I'll be getting a level 2 charge point charger installed next week in the garage.

    • @edornelas8275
      @edornelas8275 16 днів тому

      It’s great to have freedom of choice! I’m glad you got what you need. I on the other hand have had a Tesla for 6 years now & will never buy an ICE Vehicle unless maybe a truck. MY Midrl 3has been low low maintenance, realizable & dependable. I have 102K miles on it. Original brakes. On my my Third set of tires with first set lasting 47K, 45the second set. I will need to change the wiper blades & will change the cabin air filters again for the third time. The 12 volt battery went out in 4 years & Tesla mobile came & replaced timely at home & cost me $114.00 out the door! My F150 & infinity I took in to service station & cost me minimum$139.00 plus extended warranty! Glad it wasn’t a BMW, Mercedes or Audi then those batteries cost $500 30:17 based on coworkers that have various German cars. I did have a rear lamp assembly I had to replace due to water getting into it. Was odd. But that’s it. I plan on keeping this cars until it no longer drives or I break down & buy a new EV. At least 6 persons from my department have bought a Tesla based on my results. Let’s see how the Chinese EV invasion of cars do against all these established vehicles.

  • @coniccinoc
    @coniccinoc 18 днів тому +8

    I wish upper trims would give smaller wheel options. Pot holes in my area eat low profile tires.

  • @Buc_Stops_Here
    @Buc_Stops_Here 18 днів тому +2

    It means that the Camry will start at $30,000 now at minimum, and that is just the base model not including taxes and registration fees. Continues the escalation of prices. The Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon were last I remember were rated "Not Acceptable" a long time ago. I remember the Audis with sudden acceleration got that same rating as well. Plus a Toyota SUV (the Lexus GX they mention) that flipped over on the track. I am sure the Chevy Blazer EV, if they did not give the "stop sale" order to fix the software CR may have put a Do not buy on that car until it was fixed - but GM acted before CR had to do that.

  • @bjsimon802
    @bjsimon802 20 днів тому +3

    The reviews are very good

  • @cablebrain9691
    @cablebrain9691 18 днів тому +3

    It’s too bad that Toyota still seems insistent upon forcing gaudy gloss-black plastic on everyone.
    NOTE: I’m an owner of a much older model Camry XLE

  • @roguedogx
    @roguedogx 20 днів тому +4

    0:21 sorry to hear that, get well soon!

    • @roguedogx
      @roguedogx 20 днів тому

      10:08 agreed. I rented one for a trip to DC and after 10 hours of driving I was really wanted a longer lower cushion.
      which is odd because Lexus has some of the best seats I have ever been in.

  • @joec1774
    @joec1774 20 днів тому +1

    Great episode. I'm glad to hear that the CR crew will be buying an Camry SE, as the take rate of the SE in the past generation, I believe, was actually greater than that of the LE. It feels like this is the right choice for your readers. I think the criticism of the gauge cluster on the X-trims is a bit picayune; you learn the menus pretty quickly, and its also basically the same digital cluster in most Toyotas. I guess nitpicking is good, though, bc it speaks to the execution of the vehicle overall.
    Also, I loved the questions about the "sample defects." Would love to see that again.

  • @aeromtb2468
    @aeromtb2468 20 днів тому +5

    with CA gas tax going up to $2/gal these cars are going to be popular and be marked up.

    • @garrettdouglass4549
      @garrettdouglass4549 19 днів тому

      Because of the high number of EV’s being sold in California, that state is raising the gas tax to make up for the loss of gasoline being sold. Several states are considering raising the yearly registration fees on EV’s to make up for the lost revenue from the gas taxes.

  • @zzkeokizz
    @zzkeokizz 19 днів тому +1

    I’ve been driving a Prius since 2006. Hybrids are awesome.

  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain5050 19 днів тому

    Very nice! So glad that the Camry kept the traditional gauge cluster instead of the adopting the Prius' design.

  • @davidmarc876
    @davidmarc876 19 днів тому +1

    At the end of my lease in a few months, I am turning in a 2022 RAV4 SE hybrid and will be leasing a 2025 Camry XSE AWD … pretty excited to go back to a Camry after owning an SUV for three years… The SUV is nice with the ground clearance however, I miss my Camry that I owned previously

  • @stacyhackney6100
    @stacyhackney6100 20 днів тому +1

    Thank you

  • @mfbikle
    @mfbikle 20 днів тому +3

    Too bad the Camry is so low.. It’s scrape the ground when it snows 😒

  • @iratashman7202
    @iratashman7202 20 днів тому

    For me, the problem with doing oil changes myself is changing the filter is harder than the older cars. No spin-on filters

  • @Modeltrainscarsstereos614
    @Modeltrainscarsstereos614 20 днів тому +8

    Nice Gabe’s back to work

  • @squalewally7297
    @squalewally7297 20 днів тому +5

    No reason to get a Prius now. Much more backseat headroom

  • @acanuck1679
    @acanuck1679 20 днів тому +4

    Thank you for this review; I look forward to your complete test of the new Camry. One caveat for me was the deficit of headroom in models that are equipped with a sunroof. I wish manufacturers would give us consumers the option of buying top-of-the-line models that are NOT equipped with headroom-eating sunroofs.

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 20 днів тому

      I totally agree! I really dislike having sunroofs bundled with trim levels. Especially since all but the lowest of trim levels are coming with sunroofs these days.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 18 днів тому

      Sedans have had their roof lines lowered for the last decade.and a half. It is now considered acceptable to make the rear section of the roof so low that adults cannot sit in the second row. No wonder practical people are buying CUVs.

    • @bluepoint4342
      @bluepoint4342 16 днів тому

      Totally agree! I really want the XLE with premium package but I don't want the panoramic sunroof. I heard it cause more noise into the cabin.

  • @BTC909
    @BTC909 20 днів тому +7

    All luxury automakers should have "gone hybrid" over a decade ago.

  • @17forever64
    @17forever64 20 днів тому +3

    I really like this car!

  • @1Springloaded
    @1Springloaded 20 днів тому +2

    I went to test drive a SE it had a couple of the packages stuck on. It was stickered at $33.542. No mark up, no dealer added nonsense. I told him I liked it well enough but thought it was too much. We kept at it and I finally agreed to $31.087. almost $2.500 discount. I'm not aware of Toyota's being discounted anywhere.

    • @waltchan
      @waltchan 18 днів тому

      Are there any dealer installed accessories required to pay?

  • @jeretso
    @jeretso 19 днів тому +1

    Camry is king and it helps that the new Accord looks like a Malibu.

  • @kmathur1
    @kmathur1 6 днів тому

    Can you folks please put a curtain or some other background/screen, so that we are not distracted by other CR staff walking in/out in the background of the set, when you are taping the show

  • @davidm5707
    @davidm5707 20 днів тому +7

    Yay, Gabe's back!

  • @garrettw99
    @garrettw99 19 днів тому

    3:35 the rear wheel part of the AWD system was always disconnected and separate from the front

  • @Jason-ml3vs
    @Jason-ml3vs 20 днів тому +1

    I think it’s smart to make hybrids just the regular offering. More car companies should do that and stop trying to make hybrids work when they clearly aren’t what most people want or can afford. Even if hybrids could go as far as gas cars or could charge in 5 minutes the infrastructure to charge them is still 10 years or more away.

    • @reachblowsdick7222
      @reachblowsdick7222 16 днів тому

      How is making hybrids the regular offering smart? Once the hybrid batteries give up it's thousands to replace and then there's the hybrid braking system that if it fails will cost as much as replacing the whole hybrid batteries. I had a Prius that hit 160K miles with no issues but once the batteries and brake recharging systems failed, the cost to replace both was almost $10K. I traded it for a regular Camry, my Prius lasted 10 years trouble free but the little money I saved on gas was less than half of what it would cost to get my Prius running normal again, NOT worth it. Meanwhile my uncle still has his old 1999 Camry with over 360K miles which he uses to drive to work everyday, and he paid $10K back then because it was pre owned. Paying $10K for a car that's 25 years old and still running, sounds like a better investment than I got for my Prius.

  • @TheLifetraveler1
    @TheLifetraveler1 6 днів тому

    Please do a comparison between the Camry and the Honda Hybrid. I recently purchased a 2020 Honda Hybrid and I love it. But it does have a whinier powertrain. So I would like to see the two new leaders compared, before I decide to upgrade!

  • @codincoman9019
    @codincoman9019 20 днів тому +2

    Toyota Camry gets far better with the hybrid only.
    It will increase its reliability and low TCO leadership, making it hard for the Honda Accord to come closer to this segment's leader.

    • @bbgator1
      @bbgator1 20 днів тому +1

      I’ve owned both. The Camry is cheaper and more reliable. The accord is very reliable. The accord is way more fun to drive and more fun to work on yourself. If you just want an appliance buy the Camry. I prefer the accord.

  • @quixomega
    @quixomega 11 днів тому

    Toyota's hybrid powertrain is the right way to go. It's reliable, smoother and performs well enough.

  • @chriskane8625
    @chriskane8625 20 днів тому +1

    Pick up my new XSE next week.

    • @bluepoint4342
      @bluepoint4342 16 днів тому

      Are you getting it with Pano roof? I wouldn't mind it but I heard Pano rood makes the cabin more noisy. Do you know?

  • @MrSpearp
    @MrSpearp 10 днів тому +1

    I would be more interesting seeing about the new scout

  • @bluepoint4342
    @bluepoint4342 16 днів тому +1

    So Panoramic Roof makes the cabin noisy and less head room?

  • @lionintu
    @lionintu 20 днів тому

    So youre saying the honda accord lumbar support was too much and the camry was fine?

  • @psychiatry-is-eugenics
    @psychiatry-is-eugenics 20 днів тому

    8:01 agree , completely killed the sales

  • @Rayman0872
    @Rayman0872 20 днів тому +2

    0W-8 Mobil One showing 27.97 for 5 quarts at Walmart for me. Not too hard to find. When I first bought my 2021 Corolla the 0W-16 cost a lot more at the time and not a lot of options.

    • @timsouttahere
      @timsouttahere 20 днів тому

      I saw it walmart when I bought my ow16 fir my camry

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 20 днів тому +4

    First year car. Considering all the problems Toyota is having right now, let someone else work out the bugs, like hopefully the wind noise issue mentioned.

    • @chezzyperson3339
      @chezzyperson3339 20 днів тому

      It’s really only TNGA F

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 20 днів тому +1

      Wind noise has always been a problem. Our 2014 Lexus has the same wind noise problem by the windows.

    • @iratashman7202
      @iratashman7202 20 днів тому

      Only TNGA F” ? I’m in GA. 😢 what is the ‘F’?

    • @jaws10278
      @jaws10278 19 днів тому

      I had a Toyota service advisor told me to wait a year or two to buy a new Camry. He said theyre riddled with issues. Nothing major. But the few theyve sold have been coming in multiple times with issues.

  • @adamh8140
    @adamh8140 20 днів тому +1

    The sensor package price dropped jaws. Four grand on a 40K car...

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti 20 днів тому +2

    Gabe sounds like the dad from "ALF" lol... All cars except sports cars should be Hybrid these days... Its overdue, so good on Toyota to normalize it. Now they just need to pair it with a smaller, lighter fuel efficient turbo like a 1.5l.

    • @DJL78
      @DJL78 20 днів тому

      He’s either drunk or high. Also he is totally past his prime and should retire.

    • @marcfriedman1743
      @marcfriedman1743 19 днів тому

      Nice mature comment that really adds to the conversation. Let us know when you get your braces taken off and maybe have a few brain cells to come up with more intelligent comments

  • @0bzen22
    @0bzen22 15 днів тому

    Toyota's have been selling hybrids in Europe (almost) exclusively for a few years now. Yaris, Corolla, RAV4, their big sellers, Prius (of course) are all exclusively hybrids.
    So they have had some experience on that front, and are confident about the reliability of their systems on a large scale. Which, granted, can be a scary proposition (eggs in one basket and so on).
    As for their trucks, that's a different story. I wouldn't get a scaled up hybrid system for a work truck. Rather, a diesel, turbo-diesel even, or in the US, a V8.

  • @xxdmdeschamps72
    @xxdmdeschamps72 4 дні тому

    How is Consumer reports even still around with all the reviewers that offer 10x the information?

  • @ItsAlive111
    @ItsAlive111 20 днів тому +3

    Yes! A proper talking cars episode!!! Thanks you all for your work on this!

  • @sixpounder15985
    @sixpounder15985 10 днів тому

    @Seth whoever you are . This was the most vague non answer they gave you about a non Tesla level 2 home charger . I suggest looking up a channel called state of charge on UA-cam . That helped me pick the right charger for my bmw. That is the type of information I look for when I’m researching the right charger for my car

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 20 днів тому +2

    @12:23 sure the 2.5 has a stellar reliability. But I think 3.4Turbo not helping Toyota reliability. From Turbo waste gate to main baring issues its going down the drain. I don't have much faith on 2.4Turbo either. Thank to EPA Toyota has fallen down to the same level as German & Euro cars. Look like now I don't have a reason to buy a Toyota. I would consider buying a German / Euro and use it for a short time.

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 20 днів тому +2

      that's why you get the hybrid instead of the turbo 😉

  • @ballisonfargo
    @ballisonfargo 20 днів тому +2

    On the Taurus. Did the rounded style really kill it? I seem to recall seeing tons and tons of those on the road.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 20 днів тому +1

      Yeah the style didn’t kill them. They were killed by the rising popularity of SUVs like many other sedans. Plus the later model of the Taurus got bigger outside but not inside, it became a less attractive vehicle.

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 20 днів тому

      there was negative feedback so they toned it down on the refresh

    • @emeyer6963
      @emeyer6963 18 днів тому

      Number 1 selling car for the 1996 and 97 years.

  • @farism5313
    @farism5313 20 днів тому +5

    Really a great episode! Good job guys. One of the best in the business

  • @DJL78
    @DJL78 20 днів тому +4

    Do a shot every time Gabe says “ahhh” or “errrrr” and you will be dead from cirrhosis of the liver before the video is over. 😂😂

    • @jleebra
      @jleebra 20 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @kurthunter5206
      @kurthunter5206 18 днів тому +1

      So what? This is an informal chat not a polished presentation.

  • @billyrock8305
    @billyrock8305 20 днів тому +1

    Topgun grannymobile #1 🥇

  • @robertbarry7547
    @robertbarry7547 15 днів тому

    The only thing that's preventing me from buying a Camry is the massive grill. Not the look for me.

  • @benchmark3332
    @benchmark3332 20 днів тому +3

    I feel like the 0w-8 oil is gonna bite me in a** at 100,000+ miles

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 20 днів тому +2

      no. it's perfectly safe. you don't need heavy oil for protection.

    • @shawnbl2048
      @shawnbl2048 19 днів тому

      It's a bit more expensive. I think having in stock if you do your own oil 🛢chages will be a concern.

  • @lionintu
    @lionintu 20 днів тому +1

    How tall is dude in the middle with the sunroof issues?

  • @usmankhalid9438
    @usmankhalid9438 20 днів тому +3

    40000$ for camry is too much money 💰

    • @jxmar_
      @jxmar_ 15 днів тому +1

      It’s been like that since 2018

    • @johnw9245
      @johnw9245 13 днів тому +1

      So buy an LE. Its a great car and much less expensive than $40K.

  • @oskarngo9138
    @oskarngo9138 9 днів тому

    Why isn’t there a hatchback canary?
    Hatchbacks are much more versatile..

  • @lisasavage6527
    @lisasavage6527 20 днів тому +1

    Hey everyone

  • @clairekennedy8767
    @clairekennedy8767 20 днів тому +4

    They definitely made these too low. Back 10 years ago or 20 it was 3 inches taller and the headroom was great front and back. And People want to sit higher too

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 20 днів тому

      They figure if you want to sit higher you’ll get a Crown or a RAV4 etc. The new Prius is even lower.

    • @toronado455
      @toronado455 20 днів тому

      100% agree!

    • @lionintu
      @lionintu 20 днів тому

      I need to sit higher because I have a bad back. Im slim, 5'10 and test drove the SE. Headroom was fine, nothing noticeable. but I want the XSE with the panoramic. Based on what these guys are saying, It's clear I need to test drive the exact car with moonroof it before ordering. Camry drove great though. I drive crazy in my 2014 civic, and I can continue in a Camry.

    • @kurthunter5206
      @kurthunter5206 18 днів тому

      Absolutely, the Crown would be an alternative, but with no heads up display, I'm not pay 50K. Best deal was the Venza.

  • @jgriffin411
    @jgriffin411 20 днів тому +2

    So I wonder if the 2025 Camry is a safe bet, or wait til '26?

    • @davidm5707
      @davidm5707 20 днів тому +2

      That's what they usually say. However, in the case of Toyotas, they say the tech isn't always that new, just repackaged, so the first year is considered dependable.

    • @psychiatry-is-eugenics
      @psychiatry-is-eugenics 20 днів тому

      25 is the same as the 24 .
      slightly different sheet metal

    • @bbgator1
      @bbgator1 20 днів тому +1

      @@davidm5707 even Toyota has problems with first model year, But very little mechanical actually changes so we’ll still be more reliable than a lot of other brands. For me, it’s worth the risk to have the latest car m. If you want the most reliable wait a year.

    • @kurthunter5206
      @kurthunter5206 18 днів тому

      @@davidm5707 I SAY WAIT! Rav4 had problems initially & Crown's first reliability wasn't great.

  • @kmpquinn
    @kmpquinn 18 днів тому

    Camry is a solid old man’s car. There’s no driving dynamics that compare to either my MY or M3. And don’t get me started on the technology aspects. If you haven’t had your butt in the seat of a Tesla then you are missing something special. This is coming from someone that only owned Toyota and Lexus in the past.

  • @Noah_E
    @Noah_E 20 днів тому +1

    Does it really use oil thinner than 0W20? That is a deal breaker for me. That's WAY too thin. Everyone I know with a car using 0W20 has had oil consumption, including my Crosstrek. I traded it for a Forester that uses 5W30. From day one the Crosstrek burned 8 oz of oil every 1,000 miles. Almost 2 quarts between oil changes.

    • @peterkauss5852
      @peterkauss5852 16 днів тому

      2014 Highlander hybrid V6 using 0W20. No oil consumption issues.

  • @uhavemooface
    @uhavemooface 20 днів тому +2

    The title was confusing. I thought you met talking cars as in there are cars that can talk to you. But you were saying talking about cars. I get it now.

    • @kurthunter5206
      @kurthunter5206 18 днів тому

      Well my last 3 cars did/do talk to me, but they are not very good conversationalist.

  • @gregb7353
    @gregb7353 20 днів тому

    With L2 charging, the BIG missed item is that everything is going to the Tesla NACS port starting next year. So if you buy a non-Tesla today you will need to buy a CCS charger and then replace it in the future at some point or use annoying adapters. Tesla sells a universal charger today that makes this a lot easier to deal with. Simply remove the charger for NACS or push a button before removing it for CCS.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 20 днів тому

      The new Camry is not a plug in hybrid. It recharges through regen braking and alternator.

  • @dfhhtyu3434
    @dfhhtyu3434 20 днів тому

    Xle and xse all comes with pano roof

  • @Jared-no8to
    @Jared-no8to 20 днів тому +1

    Great until you have to pay $6000 to replace the battery pack. Most folks won’t keep their car that long but for those who keep cars till they are old enough to drink that skews the economics out of favor (low yearly mileage).

    • @FJBomb
      @FJBomb 19 днів тому

      Would you HAVE to replace the battery pack though? Or would the car operate like a regular ICE vehicle with a dead battery pack?

    • @ericweber8235
      @ericweber8235 19 днів тому

      The battery packs last longer the the ice engines now.

    • @kurthunter5206
      @kurthunter5206 18 днів тому +2

      @@FJBomb There are Camry hybrids with 500,000 miles (taxis) that have not replaced the battery pack. Now the have after market batteries & some places replace the bad cells.

  • @RjWolf3000
    @RjWolf3000 15 днів тому

    If its not a plug in hybrid it seems behind the times

  • @jackdjacki1872
    @jackdjacki1872 20 днів тому +1

    I think it will be a horrible car, they reduced the hp, adopted the CVT. It is just weird like they adopted risks while they stayed conservative

  • @TheUsflow
    @TheUsflow 20 днів тому +1

    Annoyed that the gas tank size keeps getting smaller with each new generation. Range is one of the best Camry attributes. Still great, but would love to have the 2012 17 gallon tank back at least as an option. Not sure why only full size trucks have a bigger gas tank option.

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 20 днів тому +3

      The Camry still gets 600 miles of range on a tank. A prius has an 11.3 gallon tank and can do 600 miles. I think that is plenty. The larger gas tank- the more weight and less cargo room... smaller trunk or no spare tire.

  • @mopesrus7266
    @mopesrus7266 20 днів тому

    I don't want hybrid, EV, or turbo. Apparently, a new Toyota isn't in the cards for me.

    • @filetofish7688
      @filetofish7688 19 днів тому +1

      Soon you will say that for all the major manufacturers when ICE vehicles are reduced to sports cars. Better keep up with the times.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 20 днів тому +1

    So much for all that "choice" talk from Toyota. Maybe they mean choice of brand names?

    • @Tokamak3.1415
      @Tokamak3.1415 20 днів тому

      You can buy a hybrid in many different form factors. Your choice of CUV, truck, sedan, compact hatch. Nah, you don't want an ICE or BEV. Look at this shiny GR Corolla.

  • @chuckwalla2967
    @chuckwalla2967 20 днів тому +1

    What's with the scratchy voices?

  • @corollabzr
    @corollabzr 19 днів тому

    Remember the more Hybrid Toyota/Lexus make for the A to B vehicles, the more fun cars they can also make (GR Corolla, GR86 etc). So no V6 for the Camry? I can deal with it, as long as Toyota/Lexus keep the GR line-up, TRD PROs and Lexus V8 F and F Sport Performance products coming.

  • @wackit6756
    @wackit6756 20 днів тому +5

    Is Mike Quincy's ego so big that he couldn’t let someone else host the show this week? Had to turn it off after 5 minutes because of that nasally 'teenager's hormones are changing' voice. 🤒

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze 20 днів тому +1

    I'm not sure why CR didn't point out that you are not buying a "charger" for your EVs. The charger is built into your car, the thing you are buying is an EVSE or Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment. In simple terms, you are buying an extension cord. Some have more features than others, but you actually do not need a cord that includes a box to charge your car at home.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 20 днів тому

      Because everyone calls them chargers, and you use them as such, even though as you say they are basically extension cords.

    • @Tokamak3.1415
      @Tokamak3.1415 20 днів тому

      I think they missed the whole point of the question. If you buy a L1 or L2 CCS port charger today and your car gets supported by Tesla for NACS conversion or comes with an onboard NACS connector it would be silly looking for a CCS style EVSE. It might be prudent for most to just hang on to just L1 until their vehicle is supported by NACS adapters and buy a J3400 L2 adapter that would stay with the vehicle instead of swapping back and forth between CCS and NACS.

  • @toyota420xp
    @toyota420xp 20 днів тому +2

    The dark-haired guy with glasses needs to have some speaking training he is using too many vocalized pauses everything he says is uh way to much its very unprofessional

    • @ericweber8235
      @ericweber8235 19 днів тому

      Agreed, he had some good things to say, but maybe he should stay behind the keyboard and not the mic.

  • @jahmanborneo1343
    @jahmanborneo1343 19 днів тому +1

    As an owner of a '23 V6 Camry XSE, the XSE trim should be removed from the lineup. How can Toyota make an XSE with such an anemic power train? Going from 301hp to 232?? That's just awful. Never mind the awful exterior aesthetics.

    • @filetofish7688
      @filetofish7688 19 днів тому

      It’s kept because the suspension is still firmer than the XLE. Not to mention the previous generation also had a hybrid XSE.

    • @daytonarama
      @daytonarama 9 днів тому

      Thank the EPA. Try and find any new car, except a low power econobox with tiny ICE, that is not hybrid now. It is virtually required now by the govt to meet federal milage mandates.

  • @gnoxycat
    @gnoxycat 20 днів тому

    Hybrids are a ripoff. You can lose your warranty if you refuse to do scheduled maintenance.

    • @davidm5707
      @davidm5707 20 днів тому +2

      On any car.

    • @chezzyperson3339
      @chezzyperson3339 20 днів тому

      Just don’t buy a used hybrid with a lot of miles

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 20 днів тому

      That’s true of any car hybrid or not. Anyway why would you skip maintenance on your car, warranty or not?

    • @lionintu
      @lionintu 20 днів тому

      Toyota first 2 years maintenance included free. My local dealer includes 3rd year free

  • @williamlee7959
    @williamlee7959 9 днів тому

    Hybrid-Hydrogen-Atomic!
    As long as they keep that God awful front grill I’ll keep buying something else.

  • @paulgilliland2992
    @paulgilliland2992 19 днів тому

    Did you know that 60% of Toyota profits come from North America and that Toyota has lost money for each of the last 13 years because of low demand and cutthroat competition at home. I can assure you there’s no messing around at dealers in Japan playing games with add on pricing for nitrogen or fabric protection.

    • @wyw201
      @wyw201 16 днів тому

      Toyota has negative net earnings in the last 13 years?

    • @bluepoint4342
      @bluepoint4342 16 днів тому

      Not true, in addition to Nort America, Toyota is killing it in the Middle East. Asia and Africa. Not as much in Europe but still high demand.

  • @benhaze1010
    @benhaze1010 18 днів тому +1

    Toyota Hybrid AWD are really not good and are AWD only on paper. Don't be fooled by it, just know what you are paying for. Disappointing from Consumer Reports.

  • @chuckm8472
    @chuckm8472 День тому

    Toyota quality is not good anymore, just look at all the recalls, and buy backs. If they built a reliable car the company wouldnt be over 200 billion in debt, more than any company in the world.

  • @khanyin3372
    @khanyin3372 17 днів тому

    I wonder 🤔 if American 🇺🇲 car 🚗 companies ever read your guys magazine It seems like they going extinct some day because they have bad reliability and you guys don't recommend to buy them. It is getting worse and worse 😭😭 look like jeep probably end soon because you see 🙈 a whole lot of jeeps on the road 🛣️ these days but you more Toyota except 4RUNNER I don't remember you company recommended to buy them.

  • @falsificationism
    @falsificationism 20 днів тому

    Not Recommended vs. Not Acceptable
    So what happened? Well the front fell off. That's not very typical I'd like to assure you.
    Well was this car safe? The one where the front fell off? Well I was thinking more about the other ones....
    If this wasn't safe why did it have 80 tons of oil in it? Well I'm not saying this one wasn't safe, it's just not as safe as some of the other ones....
    Why? Well some of them are built so that the front doesn't fall off at all...
    Well wasn't this one built so that the front wouldn't fall off? Well obviously not...
    Well how do you know?? Well..because the FRONT fell off and 20,000 tons of crude oil spilled into the sea and caught fire...I'd just like to make the point that that is NOT normal.
    What sort of standards are these cars built to? Oh very rigorous engineering standards...
    What sort of standards? Well the front's not supposed to fall off for a start...
    What else? Well there are regulations about building materials they can be made out of...
    What sort of materials? Well cardboard's out...
    And?? No cardboard derivatives...no paper...no string...no tape...they gotta have a steering wheeeeeeeeeeeel....🤣🤣

  • @georgeburns7251
    @georgeburns7251 20 днів тому +2

    Blah blah blah… how do you know how easy the car will be to work on? It doesn’t seem like you gave any reason or examples. At least the UA-cam CAR CARE NUT, a Toyota technician, opens the hood and puts it on a lift to show you. This is just talking heads. Consumer Reports used to be so good. Now that you take money from manufacturers it seems to have changed your reporting. Consumer Reports Lite.

    • @davidm5707
      @davidm5707 20 днів тому +5

      How do you know they take money from manufacturers? They always say they don't. That's why they buy the cars anonymously, or rent them, as they did these. I think someone has fed you a line of bs.

    • @mopesrus7266
      @mopesrus7266 20 днів тому

      Gee a video of self-absorbed beta's talking around a table...BORING

    • @georgeburns7251
      @georgeburns7251 20 днів тому

      @@davidm5707 they o longer say that. They actually state manufacturers can advertise their reviews if they pay a fee. They explained that in an issue of their magazine. I used to be a member for 30 years, but quit after they did this.

    • @davidm5707
      @davidm5707 7 днів тому

      @@mopesrus7266 Thanks for watching, then! 🤣

  • @Mabeylater293
    @Mabeylater293 9 днів тому

    With a Camry:
    -You can’t sit in your car with heat or air without running the engine
    -you get the intrusion of engine noise
    -you can’t have a full tank every morning
    -you can’t have dog mode
    -you can’t charge your phone without the engine running
    -you can’t go without oil changes
    -it’s slow
    -it doesn’t get over the air updates
    -you can’t play games on the screen
    -it doesn’t drive itself
    -the whole car shudders and vibrates from the engine running
    -It doesn’t get over 100 miles per gallon
    -acceleration comes with God awful engine noise, shifts and is slow and not instant
    -the tailpipe is lethal
    Tesla model 3 is better in every way with the safest cash protection in the world and is built to the same standard everywhere

  • @LordaeronTactics
    @LordaeronTactics 20 днів тому

    Dirst

  • @Lokahi-fo-life
    @Lokahi-fo-life 18 днів тому

    The guy on our right needs to work on his speaking. Stop saying Aaaah.

  • @johnnylongfeather3086
    @johnnylongfeather3086 20 днів тому +1

    Guys with really weird voices, except the guy in the middle

  • @rolan2dr
    @rolan2dr 20 днів тому +4

    I own a Camry. Very disappointed in Toyota anti EV lobbying. Awful company.

    • @codincoman9019
      @codincoman9019 20 днів тому

      Excellent.
      The EVangelists should feel dumb as the BEV scam becomes obvious.
      Btw, the CO2 is no pollutant, it is the greenery's food, giving us the O2 - didn't you learn this in school? or you've been paying attention to the lgbtqetc. bs instead?

    • @iratashman7202
      @iratashman7202 20 днів тому +6

      If I was a manufacturer I wouldn’t want a lot of pressure to make something people are not going to buy! Dealers of different brands have lots full of EVs that can’t sell.

  • @Mabeylater293
    @Mabeylater293 20 днів тому +2

    I’d take the Tesla model 3 over this

    • @codincoman9019
      @codincoman9019 20 днів тому +2

      Do it. Any society has some fools around that the normal people can laugh about.

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 9 днів тому

      @@codincoman9019you’re on another level of stupid.
      With a Camry:
      -You can’t sit in your car with heat or air without running the engine
      -you get the intrusion of engine noise
      -you can’t have a full tank every morning
      -you can’t have dog mode
      -you can’t charge your phone without the engine running
      -you can’t go without oil changes
      -it’s slow
      -it doesn’t get over the air updates
      -you can’t play games on the screen
      -it doesn’t drive itself
      -the whole car shudders and vibrates from the engine running
      -It doesn’t get over 100 miles per gallon
      -acceleration comes with God awful engine noise, shifts and is slow and not instant
      -the tailpipe is lethal
      Tesla model 3 is better in every way with the safest cash protection in the world and is built to the same standard everywhere

  • @richscott2483
    @richscott2483 15 днів тому +2

    The 9th Generation 2025 Camry is the worst Camry that Toyota has ever produced. It's slow, lame, and Ugly inside out. The demise of the Toyota Camry is now here. ThanksToyota for ruining a good thing. I will never ever buy another Toyota vehicle again.