@@louistowers526it was confirmed by the book new blood they buried him at sea and buck went on a bender until Jun (noble 3) found him at a bar and tried to convince him to become a Spartan he declined the first attempt but accepted the second, same book that micky decided to turn traitor and tried to capture the rest of alpha 9 for the insurrection
Look at what happened to the Black Thorns in the Battletech universe. They died during a setting change because the planet they were last on was canonically rendered uninhabitable while they were there in a blurb describing the overall war. They were literally killed by continuity.
Especially considering what would end up happening to Mickey later, after they became Spartans, is just heartbreaking. I can’t believe we traded the best silent protagonist we’ve ever had for this guy…
@@lukesites2457 After they became Spartans and survived a near death experience with a rebel spy who infiltrated the Spartan-IV program and blew up a portion of the space station they were training in, Mickey betrayed Buck and Romeo whilst they were on a mission to save Virgil and Sadie Endesha. Mickey ended up getting arrested after they made it out. Read Halo: New Blood.
They did the same shit to Cortana in halo infinite. At least she could technically come back. Than again, maybe rookie’s death was staged by oni so he could go undercover?
Fun fact: on new year’s eve of 2023, me and some of my friends from college got bored, so we went and played Halo 3; ODST at one of their houses. We made a bet that we could beat the game before 2024, and through a grueling campaign, a couple of deaths, and a boatload of messing around, we managed to get the credits rolling mere seconds before midnight. That last mission was absolutely insane.
@@John-X Not really. I'm a true Halo fanboy so I don't give a crap who owns the property. Halo is Halo and that's all there is to it. You're a fake fan. anyone who calls themselves a "purist" are fake. Also, unless you own the Halo IP, which you don't. You cannot decide what is canon or non-canon. If you think otherwise. Then you are an immature brat that peaked in high school and live a poor excuse of a life.
There were tons of different groups of Insurrectionist, each with similar but still different views on the UNSC. Assuming that Mickey had simply lost faith in the UNSC, it's not too far fetched for him to have joined a different Insurrectionist group.
@@aidenlethbridge2675 No, he literally joined the EXACT same Isurrectionist group. This was stated multiple times, with the leader of the group even remarking his outrage at the death of the insurrectionists at the start of the book, even though those insurrectionists essentially got themselves killed.
Saved an entire city from an alien invasion did what most couldn't only to die at the hands of humans... You didn't deserve to go out like that my friend RIP Rookie, Your a Legend
There are multiple groups. The group that did it was destroyed. He joined a different one. Though that doesn't mean shit to the UNSC who demonizes anyone who speaks out against them. No, I'm not justifying Mickey's actions. What he did was still a slap to Alpha Nine's face, and worst choice he could have made. I'm just pointing out that the insurrectionist groups are not one and the same. They are different factions given the same label.
What's worse about his death is that it broke up the team, Buck, Mickey, and Romeo would become Spartans, Dutch would leave the ODSTs and settle down on mars and Mickey would do something that was absolutely horrible and betrayed Alpha-Nine and would join an insurrection movement even though the thing that drove him to do it was actually the Rookie's death, basically spitting on the Rookie's memory in the process.
I never liked Mickey as a character anyway. Even in ODST. I couldn’t put my finger on it until that part came out some time after I had played it. Didn’t he also kill Dutch?
@@gamerraider889 The book IS 343 bull. Nothing is added to the canon of the franchise without their approval and oversight. It was reviewed and published with their authorization. It’s what they have allowed to be canon, making it arguably theirs.
Rookie should of ended up as a spartan IV, probably would be a hyper lethal one as well. Edit: Honesty instead of the rookie becoming a Spartan, I think he would've been a bad ass ONI operative, his detective skills, and intelligence are peak, then he could wear SPI armor like Veta Lopis from Halo Retribution, or maybe he'll be assigned to Kilo-5 with Naomi-010.
No it is pretty symbolic considering that ODST was considered a fan favorite and a classic halo bungie game I mean it was ODST that brought us reach and honestly that was the main reason why halo for even became a thing in the eyes of 343 They always wanted to replace halo and go into a new direction and there’s probably already tensions brewing but with the creation of those two games there was nothing nobody can really do until they were able to separate Sadly now both companies are doing pretty crap when it comes to the products, and I really wish that they would’ve just kept halo n destiny within the bungie IP
Yeah, I said he was a hyper lethal ODST some years back on a different video. Sgt.JohnForge, UNSC Marine, is hyper lethal , Sgt. Johnson , Spartan I, maybe hyperlethal, could be. Master Chief , Spartan II, hyper lethal. Noble6, Spartan III, hyperlethal. I heard Agent Locke now Spartan Locke is dead but he might be one as well or that is someone else from the Halo4-5 franchise, maybe Buck idk. Dr.Halsey said there were only 2 that were hyperlethal.
When I found out I was so pissed, but the writers at 343 at the time were so hell bent on making their own stuff and sweeping away what Bungie left. I could only imagine if passionate writers had the rookie alive and A9 together as the crew for an alternate Halo 5 searching for chief and Cortana with Rookie being the silent detective piecing everything together.
they have been hell bent of separating themselves from bungie and halo since they where made. we just couldn't see it at the time and halo 4 was forgiven easily because they were a new studio. really like the rookie being the detective again never even thought of that.
It's one of many reasons everyone hates 343. Imagine trying to rip the soul and bones out of Halo, but trying to make the body still appealing to the players as this limp, lifeless mess.
@@versedrhyme41 I've heard they're awesomely written, like the Forerunner trilogy. But personally, I just CANNOT rectify how much they fuck over the old stories and characters. I really do believe less is more. I personally feel the original Halo 3 terminals (ALL except the Ill informed lore breaking shitty ones written by Fronk O'Connor) give off a far more wonderful, creepy and cosmic picture of who and what the ancient forerunners (Ancient humans, fckin obviously) must have been. Replacing all that intentional mystery, massive scale intrigue with essentially a fcking court room drama about space Voldemorts trying to turn humans into bionicles fcking pissed me off. So much. I don't care if Steinbeck wrote it.
Its sad when the death isn't the firery hero's end or the noble sacrifice we all expect and hope for with characters we love, its them falling victim to a real situation that we would all believe they would fight out of. For every Sgt. Johnson who had that final moment in the war, right there in the pivotal moments. We have the ones like Rookie and Kat gone in an instant a death that left them powerless to stop it.
Kat was real rough too. There wasn't even time to mourn her. Fuck man Alpha 9 and Noble 6 are tragedies. So heroic though. Man i love the Halo Franchise so much.
I remember it starting and me just having that pit in my stomach feeling. Just filled with dread. Their sacrifice led to the Chief saving the world though.
I remember going from halo 4 to halo 5 when it came out. Was the most confusing experience ever and I just gave up on the franchise as a whole. I ended up playing infinite which was pretty good though
Remember when the lore is something to add onto the games. Now you need to read the lore in order to understand anything thats happening in the games. I hate how Halo was butchered in a decade of mistakes. There is’nt even anything 343 industries can take pride in. Halo wars 1 and 2 weren’t even their own dang work. All the setup and action in Halo wars 2 just got butchered at the beginning of infinite. We wanted to fight Atriox as the Chief in first person not watch a dang cutscene.
I’m not too familar with Bungie Halo lore on AI and if they go rampant, but hearing about playing Halo 4 kinda annoyed me, it annoyed me they were clearly going to have Cortana die to some newfangled nonsense I hadn’t seen in any other Halo game before (CE-Reach) just to drive a new plotline. Not only that, but they basically retconned how humans were supposed to be the forerunners, say what you will about the Halo 3 terminals but throughout the games its basically said (even guilty spark states it directly) that we are forerunner. All that mystery of finding ancient lost human tech and history gone, all the curiosity of wondering how we ascended to such a high technological level, all the questions we had about the remnants of the Halo ring firing millennia ago, the sense we were rediscovering ourselves as a species by finding Halo, was erased just so they could have a new big bad guy.
I really like in Halo how they also acknowledge the fact that humans can still be the enemy even though the Covenant was a main threat. Just adds more depth to humanity as a whole in my opinion.
In most dystopian/aftermath situations....it's fairly common to find bands of natives who are just as much of a threat, possibly even worse to some degree than the outside invaders or home planet born initial threat.
Imagine a Halo game from the Marine's perspective. No shields, no special abilities Spartans can pull off, just u, your squad of Marines, ODSTs and maybe the occasional Spartan, and an army of Covenant. Some elements that would make u feel powerless given how vulnerable Marines in Halo were compared to Spartans when it came to durability. I'd play that
ODST wasn't really gritty, and was only dark in the literal context, but yes, we need a new one. Hell, I wouldn't mind fighting against Innies in this one.
@@Gottidontgaf To start as the replacement of the easy difficulty and get even worse than legendary considering the next difficulty. Then there would be one where it's suicide literally, maybe only one way out which is to skip most enemies and pretty much survive as long as you can running through missions as fast as humanly possible.
I honestly think this shows the point where 343 clearly didn't know what they were doing, a Character Important to the Games shouldn't be killed in a comic or book, unless for very important reasons, like the death of an actor. The Rookie was the Main Character of a game and for him to get killed off in a book is unacceptable for a franchise where the primary medium is Video Games.
rookie wasn't that important if a character if we're being honest, just cause we played him doesn't mean he is an important character, he didn't even say a word throughout the whole game, never even mentioned once in other halo games
he wasn't even a character he was a self-insert. there was absolutely nothing we could do with the rookie because he has no character. He doesn't have a name he doesn't have a background doesn't even f****** talk. story-wise you can't do anything with a self insert made for a video game
important character... listen I fucking love halo odst but at the end of the day the rookie was just another odst. not any more special than the odst allies that die around you in the main line games.
The dude fought is way through hell and back, using his psychic abilities to see the past and find his team and survive the war just to be shot in the back of the head
Rookie was pivotal in one of the Halo novels. A Havoc nuke was involved in a surface fight, and he had to outrun it.... it is such a good fucking story. "Its not just dirt. It's our dirt..."
I have that book, it so good! Currently on the Mona Lisa section, though it suck that I've seen the Movie of it becuase i thought I'd never get a copy.
The book was amazing, people really need to read it. Just because he died in a book doesn’t mean it’s less meaning full. The story is just as good as a campaign.
@@FallenTerrarianI think it was better being in book form, they were able to get away with so much more with it Damned shame he went out the way he did but hell one hour on the line is a long enough life for a ODST
It'd be interesting! Though honestly I'd prefer a spin off where we fight as Marines or drop in as ODST's again, maybe set just B4 Reach fighting Insurrectionists. Then the Covenant comes in the player has to pivot to working with ppl they were just fighting to repel the Aliens. Mainly I wanna play as someone other than a Spartan man. We've gotten so many games as the jacked up supersoldier, I just wanna be a squishy trooper again, it's more realistic. Idk, there's so much material out there it's a shame they haven't made very good use of it! Very glad 343 has been taken off of Halo as of recently
lmao lemme get this straight, this dumb book makes Mickey a traitor, & kills off the Rookie? checks under which devs this was made: 343i. LOL, NOT CANON 😂 none of this happened, it's just a bad fanfic as far as im concerned 😎
I told him to play this mission on easy, but he went in on LASO I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting the rookie to live out his UNSC days, but man, like that? I was expecting something a bit more... epic, like staying behind to arm a bomb George style or something like that
Lmao, but yeah I agree with you, it was just a poor way to go for someone who did so much good against the Covenant. I get war is war, but I still feel cheated by it.
@@arandominternetuser455 nah its rather 343i writes them out off screen, Kat dies without any major blaze of glory, just shot without a chance to react, rookie was just ruined
@@arandominternetuser455 I wouldn't give this one to the writers and im someone who likes to believe the writers have a reason for doing thing like this.
he was only a fan-favorite because he was a self insert. nobody would like him if he could actually talk and have a character of his own since then he would no longer be a self insert. There was absolutely nothing they could do with with rookie when it came to the Lord because they knew if they give him a background in an actual name you people would just get even more pissed
@@mariobadia4553 i think by the time halo 3 was out the whole self insert thing died. the chief was supposed to be a self insert too but i don't think anyone looks at him like that anymore. noble 6 is more like a self insert since you can use your own armour in the campaign and he has a super generic voice when he does speak. chiefs voice is pretty iconic now. i guess all im trying to say is don't bring him down by sayin he was just liked because he was a self insert he was brought in when halo was around its peak. i remember people making up reasons why he couldn't speak like he was Russian he could understand with a translator but didn't speak the language. haven't read any books on him so idk if he ever spoke but that's how people treated him as his own character. at least that's what i remember with my group of online friends
Such an easy thing the Retcon too. Just say he was actually in a coma, and have him come back as a Spartan IV like Jun suggested he would've been. OR change the seen to it being the medics scrambling to save him but "fail" but not really because his death is faked and he's drafted to be a new spec ops operative by ONI, some Headhunter type lone wolf behind enemy lines stuff. Could have an entire light novel series following him and his missions, or even solo games that lead up to an ODST sequel, have him reunite with Buck at least! L The writer didn't know how to work with a Silent Protagonist, so he was lazy and killed him off. You could literally have an entire story told from a third person narration with beginning and end chapter "Mission Log" snippets being recordings by Rookie himself giving a summary of what's happened so far and where he's going next and what for. That could be a game or book!
I was personally surprised to hear about that later on in the whole halo story. Know why they decided to kill him off but either way he looked like an important character. It just really sucks how he is and had to be that.😢😢😢
After everything the rookie did and went through with this squad mickey HESITATED to protect his brother in arms. Sad that this was done off screen and in such a tragic way, rookie deserved better.
RIP Rookie
Rip
Thanks for the like on my comment
Sad times this is
Cool
Rip my unspoiled playthrough, you need to work on that. Maybe put a "WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD" or smt in the description
The Rookie: "Today is another day of being a badass."
Halo Announcer: *"BETRAYAL"*
Bruh!
I haven't even finished halo 3 odst yet
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, and still very much alive and intact... 🪳🪳🪳
@@Goodwarrior001this was 7 months ago. You better have finished odst by now boy.
@@CrispyBarOfSoap nah it's got hella boring
The only character's death I'd gladly accept being retconned.
Agreed
Alright now it’s time for head canon.
Wait it got retconned? Thank fuck
@@JoshuaArrike Nah, it didn't. I wouldn't mind if it was though.
Black team death needs to get retconned as well
Killing the main character of ODST offscreen was probably the most 343 writing I've heard of yet.
Yep, total waste of the character. If he died against the Covenant then it would be understandable, but insurrectionists? C'mon 343...
That part sucked, but still one of my favorite books.
Don't blame 343 about the book blame the writer of the book
@@darkshotgun209you got a point
@@darkshotgun209 That's a fair point 👍
"Can we have an ODST 2?"
"No." *Canonized Rookie getting shot in the head unceremoniously by an insurrectionist.*
All because Mickey was simping for an innie
@@bconroy328that is... The best way to put it lol😂
So we know it was definitely rookie tho?.... Not just some other prisoner wearing his uniform and helmet?!... 🤔
@@louistowers526it was confirmed by the book new blood they buried him at sea and buck went on a bender until Jun (noble 3) found him at a bar and tried to convince him to become a Spartan he declined the first attempt but accepted the second, same book that micky decided to turn traitor and tried to capture the rest of alpha 9 for the insurrection
@@brandonbell1601 when you say insurrection are they the rebels we see on halo wars 1?.. 🤔
Edit: Insurrectionists*
Noble 6: *"Hey...how did you die?"*
Rookie: *"In a book ;_;"*
😂
Look at what happened to the Black Thorns in the Battletech universe. They died during a setting change because the planet they were last on was canonically rendered uninhabitable while they were there in a blurb describing the overall war.
They were literally killed by continuity.
Emile: "I'll avenge you"
😢
RIP Spartan IIIs
If this gets retconed I wouldn't even be mad
Likewise!
Unironically would be more happy than anything
If this gets retconed they're going to have to retcon Halo 5 because buck's a Spartan now.
@@Odd1337 Halo 5's story sucked anyways. I'd be glad if it got retconned too
@@Odd1337 no problems there either. In fact every halo after reach is completely blank for me.
Especially considering what would end up happening to Mickey later, after they became Spartans, is just heartbreaking. I can’t believe we traded the best silent protagonist we’ve ever had for this guy…
What happened to mickey?
@@lukesites2457 After they became Spartans and survived a near death experience with a rebel spy who infiltrated the Spartan-IV program and blew up a portion of the space station they were training in, Mickey betrayed Buck and Romeo whilst they were on a mission to save Virgil and Sadie Endesha. Mickey ended up getting arrested after they made it out. Read Halo: New Blood.
Yep, it's a pretty sad story and it all falls apart for Alpha Nine after the Rookie's death. Glad Buck ended up with Veronica though!
Yeahhhh this is why I mostly stick to the games. If a character didn’t die onscreen then they’re still alive to me
They did the same shit to Cortana in halo infinite. At least she could technically come back.
Than again, maybe rookie’s death was staged by oni so he could go undercover?
Fun fact: on new year’s eve of 2023, me and some of my friends from college got bored, so we went and played Halo 3; ODST at one of their houses. We made a bet that we could beat the game before 2024, and through a grueling campaign, a couple of deaths, and a boatload of messing around, we managed to get the credits rolling mere seconds before midnight. That last mission was absolutely insane.
What can I say? You must have had a hell of a night.
Epic
that sounds like a lotta fun man hell yeah
@liamdalemon1525 Hey I get that reference!
Rookie was my favorite character in the entirety of halo
It's okay guys, this is 343i writing, & therefore not canon 😎
@@John-X yay
@@John-X Not how that works.
@@kratkartan1486 that's exactly how that works. unless ur a 343i fanboy 😅
@@John-X Not really. I'm a true Halo fanboy so I don't give a crap who owns the property. Halo is Halo and that's all there is to it. You're a fake fan. anyone who calls themselves a "purist" are fake.
Also, unless you own the Halo IP, which you don't. You cannot decide what is canon or non-canon. If you think otherwise. Then you are an immature brat that peaked in high school and live a poor excuse of a life.
The Rookie deserves better
No it's alright guys this is 343i writing, so it's not canon 😊
That’s why it’s good writing. War is tragic and horrible. That’s the point.
@@John-X Except... It is
And honestly, why not
The main point of ODST is you don't feel like a powerhouse
Dude is just a human... Died like a human
@@bastienhouse5202 nah it's not cuz if ur a real Halo fan, 343i content isn't canon 😂
@@John-X Grow up, money holds the world
And the license has been sold, period
Also, rebels killing his friend made Mickey join the same rebel group. Wut..?
Yep, makes sense doesn't it... 😅
There were tons of different groups of Insurrectionist, each with similar but still different views on the UNSC. Assuming that Mickey had simply lost faith in the UNSC, it's not too far fetched for him to have joined a different Insurrectionist group.
@@aidenlethbridge2675 No, he literally joined the EXACT same Isurrectionist group. This was stated multiple times, with the leader of the group even remarking his outrage at the death of the insurrectionists at the start of the book, even though those insurrectionists essentially got themselves killed.
@@zazi5305 that writer wasn’t thinking straight if that’s the case.
@@ethanlackey8048 That is exactly why the book is so hated, including Rookie's death. The logic just doesn't follow.
Saved an entire city from an alien invasion did what most couldn't only to die at the hands of humans... You didn't deserve to go out like that my friend RIP Rookie, Your a Legend
Um sir, New Mombasa got fucking glassed to bits
@@user-gu4pr9il5s Yeah, some people just miss big parts of a story, sometimes.
This dude played a completely different halo game.
Uhhh he didn't go out like that since this book is by 343i which means it's not canon. Rookie's still alive 😎
I may have got this wrong but wasn’t there a cease fire for awhile between those two, UNSC and Insurrectionists.
rookie unironicaly being my favorite character and then dying in such an unceremonious way makes me so sad for this story.
You will be missed rookie you will always be remembered rest in peace rookie
not canon, it's 343i writing guys, we are safe, the Rookie is safe 😎
one thing to note is that right before the Rookie was shot, he looked at Buck and gave him one final nod
"our job isn't to jump feet first into hell, it's to make sure it's crowded when we get there."
No I distinctly remember hitting him with that light skin stare before it all went black
@@Ringer15 *"Your* job isn't to jump feet first into hell. Making sure it's crowded when you get there is."
- Silver Visor description
@@therookie4881 you gave him a lightskin stare? You know Buck was seeing Dare right? Lol
@@brandonparson8821 I hit everyone with the light skin stare (hits you with light skin stare)
If you think that is bad, just know, Mickey thought it was a good idea to join the people that killed him. That’s betrayal on a whole new level.
Buck beat the fuck outta mickey so it's alright
@@BeyondSllver he didn’t do enough
There are multiple groups. The group that did it was destroyed. He joined a different one. Though that doesn't mean shit to the UNSC who demonizes anyone who speaks out against them.
No, I'm not justifying Mickey's actions. What he did was still a slap to Alpha Nine's face, and worst choice he could have made. I'm just pointing out that the insurrectionist groups are not one and the same. They are different factions given the same label.
What's worse about his death is that it broke up the team, Buck, Mickey, and Romeo would become Spartans, Dutch would leave the ODSTs and settle down on mars and Mickey would do something that was absolutely horrible and betrayed Alpha-Nine and would join an insurrection movement even though the thing that drove him to do it was actually the Rookie's death, basically spitting on the Rookie's memory in the process.
His family were insurrectionist and he always had a issue with the UNSC
I never liked Mickey as a character anyway. Even in ODST.
I couldn’t put my finger on it until that part came out some time after I had played it. Didn’t he also kill Dutch?
@@crazyhercules9442his betrayal is as stupid as this death
Odst was a gem
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yes paragraph was a gem
Rookie was probably the closest we got too a human acting as a Spartan.
I found this out at school while reading one of the halo books, I literally had to show it to my friend it was such a shock
Oh man I feel that 😓
@@FootedGhost it was like halo mythos i think
@@FootedGhost and I enjoyed game night but forgot to ask, are they mainly on the weekend like Friday and Saturday?
@@Michael-J-Caboose Yes mainly Saturday night, glad you enjoyed the last one! :)
@@FootedGhost aight I was asking because I have school so ye
Idk about you but I’m gonna pull a pro gamer move and call that part fanfiction. He didn’t die onscreen so he’s still alive to me!
truly a pro gamer
I'll pull an even more pro-gamer move and write a fanfiction where he's still alive. With Johnson and Six, too!
@@physical_insanityI'd read it, to be honest. Anything is better than 343 bull.
@@gamerraider889 The book IS 343 bull. Nothing is added to the canon of the franchise without their approval and oversight. It was reviewed and published with their authorization. It’s what they have allowed to be canon, making it arguably theirs.
I feel u
Rookie should of ended up as a spartan IV, probably would be a hyper lethal one as well.
Edit: Honesty instead of the rookie becoming a Spartan, I think he would've been a bad ass ONI operative, his detective skills, and intelligence are peak, then he could wear SPI armor like Veta Lopis from Halo Retribution, or maybe he'll be assigned to Kilo-5 with Naomi-010.
Agreed
Sucks that Hyper Lethal doesn't mean anything anymore now that every spartan is designated that label.
i never read the bucks so i like to think he did become a Spartan 4 but he goes mainly on (Warzone) Firefight Training Operations
He'd likely be the first new gen spartan to be designated hyperlethal
Lol why, because he is a main character? There is no reason to assume he would be hyper leahal.
No way after all of these years this is how I hear about the fate of the Rookie. What a tragedy to be written off like this off screen.
I love that he spin’s the detonator
I know he was a blank slate for us to slip into his boots for ODST but they didn’t have to get rid of him so unceremoniously.
No it is pretty symbolic considering that ODST was considered a fan favorite and a classic halo bungie game
I mean it was ODST that brought us reach and honestly that was the main reason why halo for even became a thing in the eyes of 343
They always wanted to replace halo and go into a new direction and there’s probably already tensions brewing but with the creation of those two games there was nothing nobody can really do until they were able to separate
Sadly now both companies are doing pretty crap when it comes to the products, and I really wish that they would’ve just kept halo n destiny within the bungie IP
He was a perfect candidate to be a spartan.
RIP Jonathan doherty
Yeah, I said he was a hyper lethal ODST some years back on a different video. Sgt.JohnForge, UNSC Marine, is hyper lethal , Sgt. Johnson , Spartan I, maybe hyperlethal, could be. Master Chief , Spartan II, hyper lethal. Noble6, Spartan III, hyperlethal. I heard Agent Locke now Spartan Locke is dead but he might be one as well or that is someone else from the Halo4-5 franchise, maybe Buck idk. Dr.Halsey said there were only 2 that were hyperlethal.
Them being hyperlethal is my opinion cause I like the characters, it’s not official.
When I found out I was so pissed, but the writers at 343 at the time were so hell bent on making their own stuff and sweeping away what Bungie left. I could only imagine if passionate writers had the rookie alive and A9 together as the crew for an alternate Halo 5 searching for chief and Cortana with Rookie being the silent detective piecing everything together.
they have been hell bent of separating themselves from bungie and halo since they where made. we just couldn't see it at the time and halo 4 was forgiven easily because they were a new studio. really like the rookie being the detective again never even thought of that.
That would've been so much cooler than Locke
They ruined this possibility with a passion
It's one of many reasons everyone hates 343. Imagine trying to rip the soul and bones out of Halo, but trying to make the body still appealing to the players as this limp, lifeless mess.
@@polartest122 The first mistake was forgiving them in the first place. New studio or not, there is no reason to do so badly with your first release.
A moment of silence for Johnathan Doherty, gone but not forgotten
Not forgotten OR gone since this is 343i writing & therefore NOT CANON 😎👌
It hits even harder when Buck said he could have become a Spartan
He would of been hyper lethal lucky they killed him off.
@@Gottidontgaf😂😢
I'm glad Buck atleast beat the absolute shit out of Mickey.
0/10 for not letting us see it in game
@@TheDirvish Yeah true, although the books are really good, you should read them if given the time to do so.
@@versedrhyme41 I've heard they're awesomely written, like the Forerunner trilogy. But personally, I just CANNOT rectify how much they fuck over the old stories and characters. I really do believe less is more. I personally feel the original Halo 3 terminals (ALL except the Ill informed lore breaking shitty ones written by Fronk O'Connor) give off a far more wonderful, creepy and cosmic picture of who and what the ancient forerunners (Ancient humans, fckin obviously) must have been. Replacing all that intentional mystery, massive scale intrigue with essentially a fcking court room drama about space Voldemorts trying to turn humans into bionicles fcking pissed me off. So much. I don't care if Steinbeck wrote it.
@@TheDirvish Ah yeah I understand completely. Like most people I obviously hate 343i for their "amazing" decisions.
@@versedrhyme41 I bought 2 halo books and haven’t read them for 2 years…. Why does halo lore always have to be in the books💀 I ain’t reading allat
Its sad when the death isn't the firery hero's end or the noble sacrifice we all expect and hope for with characters we love, its them falling victim to a real situation that we would all believe they would fight out of.
For every Sgt. Johnson who had that final moment in the war, right there in the pivotal moments. We have the ones like Rookie and Kat gone in an instant a death that left them powerless to stop it.
Deep
Kat was real rough too. There wasn't even time to mourn her. Fuck man Alpha 9 and Noble 6 are tragedies. So heroic though. Man i love the Halo Franchise so much.
Or that poor dude in halo 2 who got stepped on by the scarib
@@themightycrixus1131 noble 6 assuming you mean the one the player plays as. That fucker wanted to die he had every chance to live and chose death
@@RusticRonnie he did what he had to
Noble 6 Lone Wolf mission was also sad, Noble team deaths each had certain meanings
I remember it starting and me just having that pit in my stomach feeling. Just filled with dread. Their sacrifice led to the Chief saving the world though.
world? you do know that the halo universe has more than 1 planet with human life?@@themightycrixus1131
Even he didn't speak, he is definitely one of my favorite Spartans
ODST
@@kodi6197you don’t FCKING get it kiddo maybe you should actually play the game and see how qualified he is
@@CASA-dy4vs I played the game and watched the video. The rookie died an ODST. He was more than qualified, but wasn't alive long enough to become one.
Oh this reminds me of when I first played Halo 2. I didn't know what an ODST was so when I saw them in action I assumed they were Spartans.
Rookie, Didact, Cortana... How many main characters does 343 keep killing off screen? How do they not realize how frustrating that is???
I remember going from halo 4 to halo 5 when it came out. Was the most confusing experience ever and I just gave up on the franchise as a whole. I ended up playing infinite which was pretty good though
@@Rookie-qv8hcsame
Remember when the lore is something to add onto the games. Now you need to read the lore in order to understand anything thats happening in the games. I hate how Halo was butchered in a decade of mistakes. There is’nt even anything 343 industries can take pride in. Halo wars 1 and 2 weren’t even their own dang work. All the setup and action in Halo wars 2 just got butchered at the beginning of infinite. We wanted to fight Atriox as the Chief in first person not watch a dang cutscene.
I’m not too familar with Bungie Halo lore on AI and if they go rampant, but hearing about playing Halo 4 kinda annoyed me, it annoyed me they were clearly going to have Cortana die to some newfangled nonsense I hadn’t seen in any other Halo game before (CE-Reach) just to drive a new plotline.
Not only that, but they basically retconned how humans were supposed to be the forerunners, say what you will about the Halo 3 terminals but throughout the games its basically said (even guilty spark states it directly) that we are forerunner.
All that mystery of finding ancient lost human tech and history gone, all the curiosity of wondering how we ascended to such a high technological level, all the questions we had about the remnants of the Halo ring firing millennia ago, the sense we were rediscovering ourselves as a species by finding Halo, was erased just so they could have a new big bad guy.
It’s going to be super badass watching what they do at the end then super sad watching Rookie and Cortana die. Maybe even Didact too.
I really like in Halo how they also acknowledge the fact that humans can still be the enemy even though the Covenant was a main threat. Just adds more depth to humanity as a whole in my opinion.
I mean, that was the whole reason Spartans we’re created. Insurrectionist.
In most dystopian/aftermath situations....it's fairly common to find bands of natives who are just as much of a threat, possibly even worse to some degree than the outside invaders or home planet born initial threat.
We need another ODST game that’s dark and gritty like the first!!
Imagine a Halo game from the Marine's perspective. No shields, no special abilities Spartans can pull off, just u, your squad of Marines, ODSTs and maybe the occasional Spartan, and an army of Covenant. Some elements that would make u feel powerless given how vulnerable Marines in Halo were compared to Spartans when it came to durability. I'd play that
ODST wasn't really gritty, and was only dark in the literal context, but yes, we need a new one. Hell, I wouldn't mind fighting against Innies in this one.
@@CloudRollerFoxwould be Bassically playing the game on legendary
@@Gottidontgafit be even more hard if it was the flood💀
@@Gottidontgaf To start as the replacement of the easy difficulty and get even worse than legendary considering the next difficulty. Then there would be one where it's suicide literally, maybe only one way out which is to skip most enemies and pretty much survive as long as you can running through missions as fast as humanly possible.
I honestly think this shows the point where 343 clearly didn't know what they were doing, a Character Important to the Games shouldn't be killed in a comic or book, unless for very important reasons, like the death of an actor. The Rookie was the Main Character of a game and for him to get killed off in a book is unacceptable for a franchise where the primary medium is Video Games.
Rookie, Black Team etc, but they definitely need to stop killing important characters off-screen, and the way the rookie died was just awful imo.
rookie wasn't that important if a character if we're being honest, just cause we played him doesn't mean he is an important character, he didn't even say a word throughout the whole game, never even mentioned once in other halo games
he wasn't even a character he was a self-insert. there was absolutely nothing we could do with the rookie because he has no character. He doesn't have a name he doesn't have a background doesn't even f****** talk. story-wise you can't do anything with a self insert made for a video game
important character... listen I fucking love halo odst but at the end of the day the rookie was just another odst. not any more special than the odst allies that die around you in the main line games.
#fire343
One of the best ever counterintel guys I’ve known. Rest easy soldier.
It would've been so amazing if Rookie fought alongside Chief
The dude fought is way through hell and back, using his psychic abilities to see the past and find his team and survive the war just to be shot in the back of the head
Rookie was pivotal in one of the Halo novels. A Havoc nuke was involved in a surface fight, and he had to outrun it.... it is such a good fucking story.
"Its not just dirt. It's our dirt..."
I have that book, it so good! Currently on the Mona Lisa section, though it suck that I've seen the Movie of it becuase i thought I'd never get a copy.
The book was amazing, people really need to read it. Just because he died in a book doesn’t mean it’s less meaning full. The story is just as good as a campaign.
@@FallenTerrarianI think it was better being in book form, they were able to get away with so much more with it
Damned shame he went out the way he did but hell one hour on the line is a long enough life for a ODST
R.I.P. Rookie you were a true hero 😭🙏
You won't be forgotten, rookie 😢😢😢
Imagine rookie becoming a Spartan like Buck
Lets not forgot that after this event that Dutch was the most affected by this. It had haunted and traumatized him enough to retire.
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He was such a G, rip Rookie
And this is why I love halo it's tragic the amount of time I've asked myself what would've happened if some of these characters made it
Hesitation gets everyone killed in combat. Remember that. If Mickey hadn't hesitated and took the shot, The Rookie would've survived.
I hate that 343 decided to kill rookie in a book that most people wont read
No wonder people won't read it
Idk why they don’t read it, it’s probably one of the best Halo books. His death is really impactful.
@@FallenTerrarian Books are too hard for many youngsters these days. There isn't enough instant gratification.
@logangoulet7522 I was making a sardonic jab as a joke. And you respond with a whole essay that has nothing to do with my actual point.
Rest in peace rookie.
Honestly, I would love to see a Halo game where you fight against insurrectionists. Probably never gonna happen but who knows.
@InfiniteSouls yea maybe
It'd be interesting! Though honestly I'd prefer a spin off where we fight as Marines or drop in as ODST's again, maybe set just B4 Reach fighting Insurrectionists. Then the Covenant comes in the player has to pivot to working with ppl they were just fighting to repel the Aliens. Mainly I wanna play as someone other than a Spartan man. We've gotten so many games as the jacked up supersoldier, I just wanna be a squishy trooper again, it's more realistic. Idk, there's so much material out there it's a shame they haven't made very good use of it!
Very glad 343 has been taken off of Halo as of recently
@@outboardgull5285 fr bro, a non spartan Halo game would be amazing.
I think a Halo game playing *as* an insurectionist cell would be far more interesting.
@@a-rat-in-your-walls that would be pretty cool too.
ODST will always have a special place in my heart 😢
The ost of this game is something else🥺🥺 nostalgia hit har, I’m glad to be part of this era… remember reach
My favorite HALO game. The firefly cast was a big bonus for me.
It pisses me off more that the reason Mickey hesitated was because he was a rebel sympathizer.
It figures the guy named after a mouse would be a rat.
lmao lemme get this straight, this dumb book makes Mickey a traitor, & kills off the Rookie? checks under which devs this was made: 343i.
LOL, NOT CANON 😂 none of this happened, it's just a bad fanfic as far as im concerned 😎
Same shit happens IRL
soldiers survive deployment
and then come home to be killed by a crack head at the gas station 😢
Sadly this…
So you’re saying it was Realistic 😮
I do not care. It's bad writing.
@@APerson-ni1gb art often imitates life
He heard the music...
And danced like never before.
Rest In Peace my friend you will never be forgotten
I miss ODST. They were my favorite soilders. Especially the rookie.
In my Halo reckon story, Rookie is still alive. F@ck 343's way of telling of Rookie died in a book
The author and 343, but yeah I get you, I like to think he's still alive too 😪
Rookies alive. 343 is not halo.
Honestly after how much 343 has messed up the lore, the only things I really consider Canon are the Forerunner books and Halo wars
@@bombomos same. For me...Halo ended at Reach
@@skeezixmccat for me halo ended at 4, skipped around into Wars 2, and is currently in the ICU for infinite
I read somewhere that his name was Johnathan Doherty
That's correct, I think that was recently revealed but cool bit of info for sure. Another John ahaha
@@FootedGhost another john and hes almost silent again lol
@@FootedGhost i was reading that noble 6 name is also john but wikipedia says ,,its not 100% if its correct" so see you in hell soldier
@@Optican_Medicno noble six name has not been confirmed in the slightest
I can only imagine all the sadness and rage that Buck experienced during this I always saw them like brothers
You'll always be in our hearts, Rookie. 💗
That book was so good I just wished they didn’t kill the rookie that’s it
Rookie and Nobel 6 story is so sad
I remember reading the book and was heartbroken when it happened… RIP Rookie.
John Daughtry dying on his knees in a book was a bad move. He could have been our new side story blank slate character.
I love how he shows so much emotion without ever seeing his face
Never forgive them for killing him offscreen who kills a protagonist offscreen. Bro would of been a dope ass spartan in Halo 5.
Yeah terrible way to go man :(
R.I.P ROOKIE
I told him to play this mission on easy, but he went in on LASO
I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting the rookie to live out his UNSC days, but man, like that? I was expecting something a bit more... epic, like staying behind to arm a bomb George style or something like that
Lmao, but yeah I agree with you, it was just a poor way to go for someone who did so much good against the Covenant. I get war is war, but I still feel cheated by it.
@@FootedGhost This just goes to show that not all deaths are met in a blaze of glory. Sometimes you get killed or betrayed in the worst ways possible.
@@arandominternetuser455 nah its rather 343i writes them out off screen, Kat dies without any major blaze of glory, just shot without a chance to react, rookie was just ruined
@@arandominternetuser455 I wouldn't give this one to the writers and im someone who likes to believe the writers have a reason for doing thing like this.
@@Hunter-ne8px this writers reason was he wanted his book to stand out so killed rookie and destroyed alpha 9 so he could stand out
One shot to the head? Man should have brought his plot armor from H3:ODST.
I never new that! It's so sad, RIP Rookie. I wish this was a game, ODST 2 would be so great!
I feel so depressed, If I worked at 343 this would have never happened. No character should go out of screen like that, especially a fan favorite!
Not sure if they would really consider creative advice from the coffee boy. But live your fantasy man.
@@Nommable1 Thanks bro. I no I could only be able to do it if I had a high pinson. But if I did bro, I would change a lot.
I know what you mean man, it certainly sucks to see him go out like that :(
he was only a fan-favorite because he was a self insert. nobody would like him if he could actually talk and have a character of his own since then he would no longer be a self insert. There was absolutely nothing they could do with with rookie when it came to the Lord because they knew if they give him a background in an actual name you people would just get even more pissed
@@mariobadia4553 i think by the time halo 3 was out the whole self insert thing died. the chief was supposed to be a self insert too but i don't think anyone looks at him like that anymore. noble 6 is more like a self insert since you can use your own armour in the campaign and he has a super generic voice when he does speak. chiefs voice is pretty iconic now.
i guess all im trying to say is don't bring him down by sayin he was just liked because he was a self insert he was brought in when halo was around its peak. i remember people making up reasons why he couldn't speak like he was Russian he could understand with a translator but didn't speak the language. haven't read any books on him so idk if he ever spoke but that's how people treated him as his own character. at least that's what i remember with my group of online friends
The only ODST I’m willing to say, Spartans never die. They just go missing in action.
Might have been a ODST, but had the soul of a Spartan.
He acted childish sometimes but yet he was still badass
The saddest deaths are all the ones in Reach. Jorge... Never forgotten.
Such an easy thing the Retcon too. Just say he was actually in a coma, and have him come back as a Spartan IV like Jun suggested he would've been. OR change the seen to it being the medics scrambling to save him but "fail" but not really because his death is faked and he's drafted to be a new spec ops operative by ONI, some Headhunter type lone wolf behind enemy lines stuff. Could have an entire light novel series following him and his missions, or even solo games that lead up to an ODST sequel, have him reunite with Buck at least! L
The writer didn't know how to work with a Silent Protagonist, so he was lazy and killed him off. You could literally have an entire story told from a third person narration with beginning and end chapter "Mission Log" snippets being recordings by Rookie himself giving a summary of what's happened so far and where he's going next and what for. That could be a game or book!
They threw is casket with his body in it into the sea of Draco III so no
@@wyattbhoffmant retcon the whole book
343 was scared to kill someone onscreen but Bungie... They had to make me cry at every seen in reach.
Wish more protagonist-based series had these little side-stories fleshing out the world. Looking at you God of War
You'll be missed Rookie,,, RIP
ODST was my introduction into Halo and will always hold a special place in my heart. Rest In Peace Rookie
“They say 2 legends cannot co-exist” rip noble 6 mayneeee
"The death of millions is statistics. The death of the Rookie is a tragedy. "
No matter how seemingly unbeatable a person was, we can all just as easily be taken down by the most mundane of things.
That’s really sad, I’m crying.
To me, he's still out there in the night. Wandering like a ghost
May you rest in peace Rookie
* Kills hundreds of Brutes, Grunts, an Jackals *
* Gets fucking executed by a farmer *
Straight up disrespect
Guy could walk through aliens like nothing but dies to a human 😂
Halo odst is the unsung hero of the halo franchise. Would’ve loved to see more of that kind of content. Somber jazz, dark atmosphere.. loved it
I was personally surprised to hear about that later on in the whole halo story. Know why they decided to kill him off but either way he looked like an important character. It just really sucks how he is and had to be that.😢😢😢
The Rookie never dies
I’d love for more side characters who are badasses too and less of master cheif. Characters like this and Noble 6 are what make me really love halo.
After everything the rookie did and went through with this squad mickey HESITATED to protect his brother in arms. Sad that this was done off screen and in such a tragic way, rookie deserved better.
Even after all these years. Rookie death still hurts.
Chief, Nobke six, the rookie, and good old Arbiter, imagine that team
Man, I relate to the rookie so much… mainly because I’m quiet but that was the worst thing they ever could have done