I agree with you, but I prefer the Reach one. I am missing the old Bungee menus with all the details on the background and stuff. It was way easier to navigate in them too MCC is ok, but it's no where near as good as those who were made by Bungee.
I feel like the H2 menu in new graphics looks nice. But frankly I don't think any menu has looked as good as CE to me, maybe because the Halo ring being circled is just so memorable.
Yeah. Weirdly I only owned a 360, so I couldn't relate to any of the Halo 3/4 ones, but was aware of the pc port issues with CE and 2, because I've spent a good amount of hours watching people break them apart and compare to originals. Still, with Mandela there definitely were people who *only* ever heard of him as having died in a prison, and nothing else, so this is kind of even closer to reality than the true definition of Mandela effect.
Something about remembering the fog on CE brought a tear to my eye. I was 10, my brother was 14 and we would take the banshees up to the fog and fight each other. My childhood
The Keyes in the Gearbox port was changed for a funny reason too. Gearbox accidentally used Bungie's beta model for Keyes instead of the finished model. If I'm correct both models exist in the game files.
@@SUPERFunStick More than likely because they needed to use a lower res model for the original Xbox port. Just a shame Gearbox broke a lot of post processing effects and such with their port.
The dead elite talking I always thought that was someone talking through comms or something and never questioned it. If I new it was him talking I would of atleast thanked him for the energy sword and payed my respects
@@JuanMartinez-vr7bg I'm with you. The other thing I always found baffling is how robust models and effects are in CE, and how watered down they seemed to be after the transition to 2/3. The pistol, AR, Sniper etc all feel weighty and packing a real punch in CE, somehow losing that feeling in the subsequent games. Enemies too. If you take the flood for example, they feel so powerful in CE, and then in 2 they suddenly become really frail disintegrating into dust whenever you shoot them. grenades are not as impactful sfx wise, same goes for blood and bullet hole decals etc. Textures always looked super washed out in 2 especially compared to CE
@@JuanMartinez-vr7bg imo the characters all look worse (especially the jackals. Yeesh) but the environments, weapons, vehicles all look nicer and higher definition. Im specifically a huge fan of new mombasa's design - it's really neat in both the new and old graphics
Social Slayer in Halo 3 was 4v4 when it released, it was upped to 5v5 later on, in the same update that added social ranks to the game (originally there were only ranked ranks, the gold ones, the white social ranks were added around when ODST came out)
I remember this update. Everyone's rank (experience rank) got set back to recruit right before it launched. Little teenage me almost had a heart attack xD
The dead talking elite is actually telling you this with his dying breath. Recently, after playing through the halo 2 campaign on the OG Xbox, I thought about it, and then when the brutes were patrolling, you can hear the first one shooting a body (if you're fast enough you can see it) basically finishing off the elites
Yes, but he wasn't talking about that, the mandela effect there is that people remember the mouth moving when they speak when they never did and you had to hit the body for the mouth to start moving. He only showed the chinese version to show the subtitles to prove that the elites talk.
The biggest mess up i had was when i learned the H3 Deployable Cover actually lets bullets pass out through it. 13 years and I never once noticed or heard about it...
Similarly, the drop shield from Reach will allow you to shoot out of it (I am fairly certain about this, although I find myself uncertain now since it's been a VERY long while since I've tested this out).
Let me see if I remember this correctly: was it the one with an obvious outline of Master Chief's helmet and with a visible skull in it? I do recall watching something like that.
The original Grunt Birthday Party skull worked on dead bodies too, you could shoot the head of a corpse and make a plasma grenade explosion. It was probably changed because it made the game really easy, you could take out an entire squad of Covenant by shooting one Grunt in the head and any that didn't die the first time just shoot the same dead Grunt again to finish them off. Good times.
Something similar that is possible in MCC is Halo CE with Cowbell and Grunt Funeral. Grunts explode like plasmas, but since it's Halo CE, they only explode when they come to rest. This leads to massive chain reactions of flying and exploding Grunts, most certainly killing everything in the room and maybe you as well. It's good fun!
@@chrisfranklinguitar7105 I wish there was a better version of CE anniversary, one where the assets are original and aren’t from either halo 3 or halo reach
@@chrisfranklinguitar7105 mostly it's the fog effects and shaders. Even the jackal and stationary energy shields have them broken. It's embarassing how 343 still hasn't bothered to fix these issues after all these years when some modders have been able to.
@@chrisfranklinguitar7105 Because it uses the Gearbox PC port, which is itself a bad port, as a basis instead of the OG Xbox version. Gearbox basically gutted the game during the porting process because they had literally no idea what they were doing, and they haven't learned anything over the past 18 years since then, a prime example of this is Aliens: Colonial Marines.
I have a personal Mandela Effect with one of the Halo 3 cutscenes; the one after the first mission, right after the power goes out and the Prophet rants at the humans. See, I could have sworn that back when I first played it on Xbox 360, after Chief asks, "does he usually mention me?" that Sergeant Johnson replied with, "only when he's angry, so, yes." But no apparently Johnson responding to Chief there was never part of the cutscene, like, ever? I don't know why I remember it being that way, but it's so vivid in my memory.
YES JOHNSON SAYS THAT 100% IVE PLAYED HALO 3 more times than ANYONE in the world and I VIVIDLY remember Johnson saying that line. I have NO idea why its not in MCC
I have this mandela effect where i swear, as a kid remember in Halo CE’s “the maw” when chief runs to the longsword fighter, he pushes some flood out of the way as they were catching up
I always assumed the "dead talking elite" was just arbiter monologuing. and like half of this stuff I never noticed because me and my dudes even though we've replayed missions almost hundreds of times, we ran through them with such speed and efficiency the only time we stopped was to get ammo XD
I thought it was Arbiter talking too, cause that elite looks dead as shit. I was confused how the Arbiter knew the brutes had killed the elite council just cause he saw some generic dead elites. I thought the generic elite corpses at the start of the mission had to be the council then, in which case why were they killed there of all places? Now it all makes sense.
As someone with 4500 exp in social slayer on the OG Halo 3, allow me to correct #10. Social Slayer was 4v4 (back when shotty snipers would commonly come up in the playlist) until they switched it to 5v5 when they added the exp ranks next to your name in all the different playlists. I promise you that is what happened. I’ll never forget that. In fact, that is when the social Skirmish playlist was 5v5 instead. They literally swapped the 5v5 aspect out of Skirmish into Social Slayer in like 08 or early 09. Great video brother. Keep it up. 🖤
I was gonna say that I thought I remember a time when it was 4v4 but then at some point they changed it to 5v5... glad someone commented this and it’s cool that you remember specifically when it was changed
Halo 3 multi player software dynamics was the saddest, most easy moded for a 10 year old, that has ever been created. Thank the Gods that they came out with Reach Afterwards.
The Captain Keyes one really bugs me. From what I understand, Gearbox accidentally set the wrong texture for Keyes when doing the port. It's the beta texture, and the Xbox correct texture is still in the files. How this hasn't been fixed yet is so strange.
From what I saw between the MCC OG graphics vs what I saw with Dee bee Geek's video of him playing the OG Halo Combat Evolved, as far as I've seen, there doesn't seem to be a difference with the two models.
it was broken but really fun to use, especially in flood levels since that explosion actually do splash damage to other enemies, breaking their bodies most of the cases, it also damages weak enemies like infection forms and grunts
The thing I remember most and miss the most about old school Halo were the physics for the warthogs. If you rammed into one with another, one of them we're both of them would go flipping through the air. My friends and I even had a game mode that we played using the warthogs. We would take them out on the ice and do demolition derby. The rule was no shooting of course and if you flipped somebody out of the warthog, you could try and splatter them before they get back in. It was loads of fun. We just called it warthogs on ice
This got me feeling some type of way tbh.. I still remember when halo 2 was shut down 10 years ago. On that day I thought about when the same would come for halo 3. Well now here it is
I remember watching a video a while talking about how poorly ported the original Halos 1 and 2 to MCC were. There were many visual effects that looked better on the original xbox, or just flat out omitted. Kinda sad if we wanna play with og graphics, we have to deal with a lifeless environment sometimes
Hey General, I've played Tsavo Highway more than any Halo 3 player. It's my all time favorite mission and accross multiple accounts I have probably over a thousand hours on that level. The Marine definitely used to have a visible scanner, idk how or why thats different. It's been a few months since I've played Halo in general but last I checked he had a scanner.
No he never did, and your +1000 hours on that mission doesn't matter. Your mind places in what should be a scanner without you actually taking a good hard look at the scene. I would know, I'm your brain. We didn't see it.
That's because it's the PC Gearbox port that got rid of allot of effects for some reason. There is whole a video about it. Type in gearbox halo broken port.
This video brought back so much nostalgia I want to cry Lots and lots of lost friends... whoever my old halo buddies are... I hope your still slaying as you did back then
I can confidently say I've never forgotten the missing lights on Hang Em' High and I'm actually confident (and always have been) that it was a very intentional change. Having the lights was actually incredibly annoying because you'd have to jump over them, otherwise you'd get stuck. That wasn't the ONLY instance of a change in the map in PC CE either. The more blatant one of course is the addition of arrows on Sidewinder along with two way teleporters to the base. A more subtle that I don't think many remember is that on Battle Creek you could fit through the base windows on the sides which you could not on Gearbox onwards. I will say though that having actually popped my OG CE disc into my 360 recently stuff like the fog and Keyes are STILL easy to miss. The Jackal shields on the other hand are really easy to notice. I'll also say that I did not know the elite's jaws moved if you hit him on Uprising; I knew he said the line but I was never sure it was hi cuz I never saw his mouth move. And lastly I'll say the change in the Grunt Birthday Party skull is a tradgedy because the original was fun as hell. I actually remember learning that Flood combat forms have "heads" specifically because of that skull so I've never forgotten how it worked originally and I've always been bummed by how it's never worked like that SINCE then. In fact since 343 seems to like adding skulls it'd be nice if they tossed in a Classic Grunt Birthday Party skull in.
@@ShadowDragon-cw7wb Was there a change in sounds for PC? I thought it was only CEA that changed them. Spinning weapons I was certain was always thing in CE; The physics as far as I know are identical between Xbox and PC onwards except for PAL xbox which is weird.
@@ChouRaiyuki As far as I remember, weapons getting stuck in a spinning animation on slopes wasn't an original Xbox thing and the sound effects were changed in CEA. They fixed the grunt dialogue in MCC from CEA so they don't say the same two lines.
@@ShadowDragon-cw7wb weapon spinning glitch is definitely from OG H1 and is still current in every halo title to this day. It is simply a geometric collision glitch where the gun is trying to always lay flat on whatever surface it's on but is placed on a convex that is in no way flat and cannot "lay flat" on the surface it's on, so the collision of the object will continuesly "try" to lay flat until it does.
heads up, the 'hang on!' line was there because iirc in 2016-2017 MCC H2A Campaign had the Day at the Beach cutscene play right there. That line would have been the Sergeant of 2nd squad.
I was looking for this comment, I remember its the same VA as that sergeant, he also makes his way to ark with us in H3 and calls out for all armor to form up on the chief after going through the wall towards the cartographer iirc, when you take the gauss hog to go around the corner to get your scorpion back, right before the scarab
Gearbox's terrible port of halo ce was a sign of their future mistakes such as colonel marines, battleborn, the writing of bordeelands 3, randy pitchfrod still working at gearbox.
At that time pretty much all Gearbox did were ports, PC to console and vice-versa. Most of those ports were actually pretty damn good, Half-Life on PS2 being a prime example. Halo PC is an exception rather than the rule.
Tbh I always imagine what it would be like for people booting up halo 2 for the first time and then deciding to play CO-OP, they would miss the whole scene of the arbiter on trial and have the game start out at the reward ceremony where they would watch a random Elite get stripped naked and tortured with no context whatsoever.
Co-op on those missions was never possible i remember that clear as day because when id play with friends i would load up in SP first to show them that opening and then load back into co-op. Data pad thing in H3 was also always invisible
I just played the campaign with my friend a few weeks ago. We played both of those missions. It just spawns a second Banshee in Heretic. I don't entirely remember what it did for The Armory, but I think it was just showing my screen until I finished the scanner thing and then he spawned in.
they will never get there. And then more I play the Anniversary games, the less I like them when I realize how much was changed with the art style and lighting. They totally kill the spooky and mysterious atmosphere of Halo CE and Halo 2.
@@MotorCityPhoenix313 First, I am confident that with continued work they'll restore each game to 100% parity with the originals. Second, just play in classic graphics. That's what I do. I haven't played Halo: CEA with the anniversary graphics since my Xbox 360 run.
@@MotorCityPhoenix313 Halo 2 Anniversary flat out improves on atmosphere in every situation lol. Like sure there's some areas in Halo CE where it's less dark and spooky (like 343 Guilty Spark's jungle,) and the Library (though that one was because the Library was a terrible level and lighting it up was all they could do from a simple remaster to mitigate how bad it was.) But every single area where it's supposed to be "spooky and mysterious" in Halo 2, it's just as dark if not darker. People need to stop this meme that actual dynamic lighting and shadows kill atmosphere, because it's never true. Any "atmosphere," you're imagining being gone in Halo 2 is literally because of graphical limitations of the time.
A crazy one I see is people completely forget that Halo 2 Legendary will revert a checkpoint in co-op if one person dies- and no, it wasn't added in MCC it was like this on OG too.
I remember that when I played Halo 1 as a child, Captain Keyes was in one of the pelicans at the start of the fourth mission, but its not... I dont know if is a mandala effect or just the og xbox reusing some models like with sgt. Johnson.
The keys model for the gearbox pc port is due to Bungie giving gearbox earlier build material to work with instead of the final release material. Whether it was a accident or one of Bungie's instances of hating 3rd party intervention in halo (with the novel initially and halo wars 1's devs)
TheDapperCat mostly that but some things were either not possible in the change in hardware or were removed due to errors caused by said older build code (namely the jackal shields which was due to even code in the older builds not being intact)
those Halo 2 OG Xbox vs the MCC graphic comparisons always impress me (dare I say, blow me away.) I had absolutely no idea that the ''return to sender'' cutscene had such detailed lighting, which makes me wonder if it applies to other cutscenes or gameplay I would love if you'd someday do an extensive comparison video on the subject, it just sounds so interesting
For uprising in Halo 2, I remembered the elite being alive and giving that dialogue before joining you to fight. In later versions I thought him being dead was the bug.
that 1st one is crazy because i literally have the memory of me and my best friend playing through *every* halo 2 mission coop. down to us getting mad at eachother for dying constantly in the beginning
Idk where the world went I miss the glory days of halo where this shit was top competitor with cod the game I grew up on died out n it’s like my childhood did to like the halo community needs more UA-camrs to spend my time on
I know this would be close to impossible to test... But would it be peossible "some" update broke certain things, like the scanner? Maybe a base copy not patched has the hand scanner working, or perhaps a updated copy. Worse. Maybe a patch in the middle of the life cycle made it work, but pre patch and post patch had it broken... Lots of things can have that dumbness happen.
Don't know about the Halo 3 scanner, but everything else is in base versions with no updates. My xbox has never been online and I confirmed everything from halo CE and 2. Heed likely deleted all updates as well.
3:33 his mouth absolutely moves. I remember it so clearly, this was my favorite mission and I played it at least 300 times and I remember that at least half of the times his mouth moved. I also remember talking about it with my cousins and stepbrother separate times when the game first came out because of how strange it was.
It was, and this guy is wrong about there not being confetti. There absolutely was, but it was not like the glowy orb stuff shown here. It was 2d sprite confetti.
@@GldnClaw that’s what confused me to, I had save file for it and would grab it and the Sputnik skull then replay missions for fun and don’t remember the exploding AI’s
The marine at the start of tsavo highway does that on purpose. A data pad was stolen by the first elite you can encounter in reach on legendary. Noble 6 marked the data pad for pickup, but nobody actually went to retrieve it, so the marines facetiously pretend to use one for lack of actual equipment.
Halo reach is a different game to Halo 3 though. I doubt the lack of supplies from before the esistance of Master Chief would effect the Halo 3 marines
For those speculating! - Heretic from H2 is a cutscene, not a mission. Armory CAN be played Co-op however, player 2 simply "wont exist" until Cairo Station starts. (classic H2) - Yes, the Marine DOES have a scanner in his hand on Tsavo Highway H3 and he's not the only one. Whatever is happening in this video is simply a bug or glitch (most likely missing asset file on MCC, or asset was corrupted past a certain update and never fixed) - The fog on AoTCR & TB, H1 is gone because it was never fog to begin with, it was hard-baked into the lighting. (Although I do agree on 343i's laziness to not add it back using modern tech - such as actual fog rendering) AND YES. MCC Has MANY Audio bugs, including "extra" dialogue and "cut" dialogue.
If you want to find out more about these topics, and the topics covered in this video I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching "Bungie Employees watch Halo Speedrun" or whatever the video is titled. 5 of the OG devs of OG H1 and H2 talk about Halo's development for like 2 hours straight.
In the beginning of Two Betrayals, when Guilty Spark asked Chief if something is wrong, I vividly remember Chief saying, “No, everything is just fine.” But apparently he says “No, nothing.”
For me it was always in Metropolis in halo 2. When you meet get banks on the balcony the Sarah comes in and steps over the building and then the rest of the mission plays out and you kill the scarab. When the Sarah walks over the building your standing on it knocks down a pole thing and it will randomly call but for some reason every time I played the mission (it still happens almost always for me) the pole crushes him and kills him. So for a very long time I thought he was scripted to die there until my brother told me it doesn't happen for him lol
yeah the marine CO doesn't die on the OG xbox version but for some reason the scarab always catches the pole when it climbs up the building in the MCC.
I hope Halo 2 cairo station on splitscreen is here. I remember doing the green and red light movement with a friend but I was told it wasn't split screen Edit: literally the first one!!!!!
@@kabob0077 Hardly any Halo games, including Halo 2, allow co-op in campaign with more than 2 players--the original Xbox and Xbox 360's hardware simply couldnt handle it. So that's a false memory too.
I'm actually freaking out about this, like, not to long ago I got pissed at my brother for killing me there and he remembers that too. What the fuck is going on.
The lights in hang’em high are annoying as hell so I’m glad they’re gone, the trench should be a smooth transition because being there in the first place is already risky enough considering you’re out in the open.
Yeah, I never enjoyed that section of the map when playing with friends on the Xbox, but the PC version made it more tolerable, although it definitely does look worse as a result.
I think that was a conscientious design decision to change it for the PC port and not a bug precisely because the lip made the trench way more dangerous than it needed to be.
Another thing I remember that never seemed to work in Halo 2 and Halo 3 MCC: You were able to carry weapons between missions. I recall that happening between Mombasa Streets and Metropolis, and between Tsavo Highway and The Storm most prominently, but those were not the only mission "duos" where that happened.
It only worked for some missions, but it was a thing. I specifically remember re-arming before triggering the mission end to carry a particular weapon with me into the next mission, and only if you immediately continued to the next level. Could also place things in the ending cutscenes for cool or funny effect.
According to Late Night Gaming, Gearbox might have used aCaptain Keys model from an older version of the game before Bungie replaced it with a higher quality model.
#1 is true af. It blew my mind a year ago when I introduced my friend to halo 2 and we could not co-op those mission. Just as you said I had vivid memories of doing them with 2 players before.
Videos like these are living proof that you need to write scripts for UA-cam videos for them to be of any quality: “You actually ummm yeah actually I umm *breathes into mic* it’s actually coz you’re remembering it wrong so yeah um they don’t *swallows spit* they remember it differently”
That was bothering me the whole video. So many words spoken that were just unnecessary. Even to the point of still continuing with the umming and ah'ing when the next 'memory' was rolling along.
maybe im misremembering but wasnt there a rocket launcher next to the dead marine in the room before the banshee bridge in assault on the control room? i dunno if thats false memory or MCC/pc port messed that up.
There's A launcher earlier in the mission but in the room before the bridge is some Hunters and rocket ammo packs. I haul that launcher through the whole way just to shoot a banshee before the elite can get in so I can fly it.
in Reach, i was 110% sure Kat gets shot by a Jackal, which you see in close-up... turns out it’s a wide shot that barely reveals an elite Field Marshal was the sniper
@@dennythejet4284 Yeah, armory is interactive like the very start of CE that also gets cut if you load co-op. setting up your look controls and shield test
You just remember playing the campaign together from the “beginning” (where it allows you to start on co-op), and this combined with your memories of having played it so many times by yourself (and/or with friends over) blends together. Still interesting though, I guess allot of us had really similar experiences.
Exactly, this video actually reminded me that you don't start until the third mission which is definitely true, I can remember in 2006 that my brother and I would play it constantly and even discussed the skipped levels. You're exactly right with the memory thing, people will have blended their solo and co-op memory's, after all it has been over 15 years for most xx
There's no fuckin way about that first one, I still can remember my brother and I pushing crates in Armory to wedge it between the doors of the elevator. There's no fuckin way co op never existed.
I vividly remember playing splitscreen on armory with my cousin to try to push master gunns into the zapper but turns out that couldn't have been possible since no version of Halo 2 actually supported co op for Armory or Heretic
I have a vivid memory of me and my brother doing the exact same thing. But, then again, I think I also remember being confused about the not being able to start the armory on co-op. So now I am just confused.
Sure I could get excited now about... free to play multiplayer, microtransactions, halo2-tier graphics, uh... killing Cortana again, not having an stable antagonist, years gap between games with the important stuff in an incomplete comic. Another cliffhanger I guess. If Infinite sucks the series will die
@@bigmammaschughouse9691 I like how you say "fuck mcc," when the comment you responded to had nothing to do with MCC. It was about the more disappointing direction the non MCC games appear to be going (that technically started with Halo 4, but really became a big problem with Halo 5.) For all intents and purposes, MCC's differences at this point are extremely small and being worked on regularly. The only people who are actually convinced they're game breaking just don't want to acknowledge the newer re-releases of games being better than the old ones they have nostalgia for. Not to mention: 1. Halo 2's Servers were shut off years ago. 2. Halo 3, Reach and 4 get like maybe sub 1000 players online at peak times if they're lucky, whereas MCC gets like 10x that easily. 3. Not only was it a 30fps game instead of 60fps, but the controls were just flat out worse in older entries too, offering significantly less customization to button layouts, look sensitivity and had no options to set deadzones at all so you were stuck with the old extremely large deadzones. Nevermind the awkward aim acceleration zones for every Halo before 4 (that you can also toggle in MCC if you want the legacy feel.) Oh yeah you can get used to it after playing with it long enough, we all did, but it's just flat out wrong to say the miles better customization MCC offers isn't objectively superior. 4. The old servers are literally obsolete, before MCC the series operated on Peer-to-peer instead of dedicated servers that MCC does. The latter is just flat out better. People need to stop pretending the MCC servers are worse when they fixed them ages ago, if these were the Launch MCC servers where they had tons of issues you'd maybe have a point, but they aren't.
@@Robbie_Haruna MCC is fantastic, honestly. Even with these bugs, it puts 6 working games under one roof and manages to get them all to work together. There are some really fun (and terrible) achievements and endless things to do. MCC is one of the best things to happen to Halo. Never has it been this easy to host custom games and have so much access to so many different games. You don't have to change disks, or games, just move to a different menu and have access to a bunch of other custom games. The only things that I hope for are a better file share system and custom game browser, which is coming hopefully in the next update since it's in the upcoming flight. It might have taken a long time for MCC to be really worth it, but damn, it's really good now.
I remember the first day playing halo 2 with my cousin and being so confused we couldn't play the first two in coop. Suprised people dont have that memory, it's so memorable to be so confused lol
The funny thing about the Grunt Birthday Party skull was that if you combined it with the Cowbell skull you'd send every enemy into the stratosphere whenever you killed them because the effect was made by a plasma grenade explosion.
@Generalkidd Halo 2, Metropolis, the twin bridges scarab gun, there used to be a cutscene. When chief grabbed it, a cutscene used to play showing chief walking up to it asking how it got up there and why it was hovering. Cortana said she was scanning it and said something about it having a modified power supply and being different from a normal plasma rifle. This was back on the original xbox version. But for some reason it no longer appears and only a handful of us remember it. This is a true Mandela effect with halo.
What always bothered me was Master Chief dragging a bomb on spike legs across a floor perforated with holes.
…That’s a thing that happened. Right?Why did that bother you?
BRUH SAME! AND I JUST beat that level earlier today, and thought the same thing😂
The real mandela effect is whether its generalkidd or general heed
That's always confused me lol
i still have a grudge with the naming of him versus the channel😵💫
I thought he was Fire Lord Ozai
I still don’t really get it.
@@henrynewgent8481 in the intro sounds like he is saying general heed instead of general Kidd
Man the original Halo 2 menu is so sexy. Still one of the best ever.
I agree with you, but I prefer the Reach one. I am missing the old Bungee menus with all the details on the background and stuff. It was way easier to navigate in them too MCC is ok, but it's no where near as good as those who were made by Bungee.
@@frankyboy1385 Halo 1 and 2 menus are absolutely amazing
I feel like the H2 menu in new graphics looks nice. But frankly I don't think any menu has looked as good as CE to me, maybe because the Halo ring being circled is just so memorable.
@@frankyboy1385 there are far too many effects and transitions in the mcc menu. It causes the menu to lag. The menu. Lag. Wtf
I like all of the bungie menus personally. All of them are great, including Halo Wars.
Less of a Mandela effect and more of a "I played pc version 1st" kind of deal
Ahh, maybe thats what it is. I played on xbox and none of this is really familiar to me lol
Yeeeees and using Mcc is just a poor example for scientific method
Yeah. Weirdly I only owned a 360, so I couldn't relate to any of the Halo 3/4 ones, but was aware of the pc port issues with CE and 2, because I've spent a good amount of hours watching people break them apart and compare to originals.
Still, with Mandela there definitely were people who *only* ever heard of him as having died in a prison, and nothing else, so this is kind of even closer to reality than the true definition of Mandela effect.
No i litterally just played the first two missions on coop on og xbox 2 days ago. On halo 2.
@@DC-xv2kb Yup, it is definitely possible because I did it too.
Something about remembering the fog on CE brought a tear to my eye. I was 10, my brother was 14 and we would take the banshees up to the fog and fight each other. My childhood
The Keyes in the Gearbox port was changed for a funny reason too. Gearbox accidentally used Bungie's beta model for Keyes instead of the finished model. If I'm correct both models exist in the game files.
I can't figure out why the beta model looks so much better than the finished one
@@SUPERFunStick More than likely because they needed to use a lower res model for the original Xbox port. Just a shame Gearbox broke a lot of post processing effects and such with their port.
@@SUPERFunStick It doesn't, compare the release model from Refined vs the MCC one
Gearbox broke a lot of the Halo port
The missing leaves in halo 2 blew my mind. I don’t know how I didn’t notice it
I have Nvidia Graphics and I’m gonna check later to verify
No actually I have a video file somewhere the marine says hang on it’s gone now from the game it’s on my pc somewhere
I guess you can say it *blew you away* huh?
(Halo 2 pun)
@@dylantrevorlinville1340 Ha ha that’s good.
there where trees?
The heretic isn't even a mission, its literally a cutscene
Lmao exactly
@@jettisone smoke and mirrors boys, smoke and mirrors.. but rendered smoke and mirrors if you have rtx :]
The one after that tho has a few things you can do. I think one part is just the tutorial and the other is just you and Johnson in a little train
A damn good cutscene
@@crunkle3829 No that's cairo station
The dead elite talking I always thought that was someone talking through comms or something and never questioned it. If I new it was him talking I would of atleast thanked him for the energy sword and payed my respects
Same, I would have poured out my Elite Gatorade for him
It's always jarring how good the original CE and 2 were graphics wise. They really got everything possible out of their engine.
Imagine if every game company pushed themselves like bungie did
Is it me or halo 1 is more polished graphically than halo 2 in the og xbox?
@@JuanMartinez-vr7bg I'm with you. The other thing I always found baffling is how robust models and effects are in CE, and how watered down they seemed to be after the transition to 2/3. The pistol, AR, Sniper etc all feel weighty and packing a real punch in CE, somehow losing that feeling in the subsequent games. Enemies too. If you take the flood for example, they feel so powerful in CE, and then in 2 they suddenly become really frail disintegrating into dust whenever you shoot them. grenades are not as impactful sfx wise, same goes for blood and bullet hole decals etc. Textures always looked super washed out in 2 especially compared to CE
@@JuanMartinez-vr7bg imo the characters all look worse (especially the jackals. Yeesh) but the environments, weapons, vehicles all look nicer and higher definition. Im specifically a huge fan of new mombasa's design - it's really neat in both the new and old graphics
@@JuanMartinez-vr7bg ua-cam.com/video/rSu0QkDIjMI/v-deo.htmlsi=1SbLGPopuheO0eQ8
As it turns out, 80% of people believe that the arbiter died in prison.
Why did you frick my mom I’m mad
They should’ve known that their actions have consequences
With entrails paraded through the holy city
Prison rules.
I thought I remembered reading about that in the newspaper....
The halo 4 cutscene with the broken lighting has always really ticked me off
I mean that's so unprofessional
Its funny, because no one even remembers Halo 4
@@joecool9739 the only thing everyone rmb is halo 4 cortana *cough*
@Alexander Ortiz Nah, she's just had a personality change due to rampancy giving her a sense of mortality.
@@daedalus6433 I wonder if he meant “bad” as in “she’s a baddie.” Lol
Social Slayer in Halo 3 was 4v4 when it released, it was upped to 5v5 later on, in the same update that added social ranks to the game (originally there were only ranked ranks, the gold ones, the white social ranks were added around when ODST came out)
I remember this update.
Everyone's rank (experience rank) got set back to recruit right before it launched.
Little teenage me almost had a heart attack xD
Damn man, I remember this, good times indeed.
@@stef2090 same I remember so many people thought they would reset your levels in reach eventually thank god they didnt
That was such a fun update too lol, I think that update came shortly before party chats were updated in that eventually faded out private chats?
@@T101Crazy Faded out game chat and proximity voice too lol
The dead talking elite is actually telling you this with his dying breath. Recently, after playing through the halo 2 campaign on the OG Xbox, I thought about it, and then when the brutes were patrolling, you can hear the first one shooting a body (if you're fast enough you can see it) basically finishing off the elites
Yes, but he wasn't talking about that, the mandela effect there is that people remember the mouth moving when they speak when they never did and you had to hit the body for the mouth to start moving. He only showed the chinese version to show the subtitles to prove that the elites talk.
The biggest mess up i had was when i learned the H3 Deployable Cover actually lets bullets pass out through it.
13 years and I never once noticed or heard about it...
What you mean? Only stops plasma weapons? Or its a one way shield?
@@whitephillip6997 inner side allows bullet weapons to pass through. BR will, Carbine won't.
Similarly, the drop shield from Reach will allow you to shoot out of it (I am fairly certain about this, although I find myself uncertain now since it's been a VERY long while since I've tested this out).
Wait, WHAT!???? How the fuck did I never noticed this while playing multiplayer online???
I discovered that too, the weapon gets over the shield and only works on human weapons since they are bigger
The invisible scanner is odd. I literally watched the marine use one in tsavo highway for a minute straight.
Same I remember just sitting with a br or sniper seeing what's on the screen
I did this too, I was even looking directly at the scanner studying it.
It's definitely a glitch. More so on 360 because that's absolutely where I've sat watching his scanner.
@@SirZemmy yep
Let me see if I remember this correctly: was it the one with an obvious outline of Master Chief's helmet and with a visible skull in it?
I do recall watching something like that.
The original Grunt Birthday Party skull worked on dead bodies too, you could shoot the head of a corpse and make a plasma grenade explosion. It was probably changed because it made the game really easy, you could take out an entire squad of Covenant by shooting one Grunt in the head and any that didn't die the first time just shoot the same dead Grunt again to finish them off. Good times.
Really bummed they took that out, was really fun at times. Was super satisfying to hit the head shots
69th like waheyyyy
I remember that
Something similar that is possible in MCC is Halo CE with Cowbell and Grunt Funeral. Grunts explode like plasmas, but since it's Halo CE, they only explode when they come to rest. This leads to massive chain reactions of flying and exploding Grunts, most certainly killing everything in the room and maybe you as well. It's good fun!
Idk they added in grunt funeral so that defeats the difficulty argument
The fog on Assault on the control room has ALWAYS bothered me!!
SAME! I used to take a banshee and fly straight up through the fog as high as I could!
Halo CE anniversary is a bad port of the game that degrades a lot of the textures etc
@@chrisfranklinguitar7105 I wish there was a better version of CE anniversary, one where the assets are original and aren’t from either halo 3 or halo reach
@@chrisfranklinguitar7105 mostly it's the fog effects and shaders. Even the jackal and stationary energy shields have them broken. It's embarassing how 343 still hasn't bothered to fix these issues after all these years when some modders have been able to.
@@chrisfranklinguitar7105 Because it uses the Gearbox PC port, which is itself a bad port, as a basis instead of the OG Xbox version. Gearbox basically gutted the game during the porting process because they had literally no idea what they were doing, and they haven't learned anything over the past 18 years since then, a prime example of this is Aliens: Colonial Marines.
I have a personal Mandela Effect with one of the Halo 3 cutscenes; the one after the first mission, right after the power goes out and the Prophet rants at the humans. See, I could have sworn that back when I first played it on Xbox 360, after Chief asks, "does he usually mention me?" that Sergeant Johnson replied with, "only when he's angry, so, yes."
But no apparently Johnson responding to Chief there was never part of the cutscene, like, ever? I don't know why I remember it being that way, but it's so vivid in my memory.
I remember that too
@@Darbzila So I'm not the only person in the world who remembers it. Interesting.
YES JOHNSON SAYS THAT 100% IVE PLAYED HALO 3 more times than ANYONE in the world and I VIVIDLY remember Johnson saying that line. I have NO idea why its not in MCC
i also remember that. but I've only played halo 1 and 2s campain. I've never played halo 3s campain. so I believe that happened in Halo 2
He never says that. He only says "cocky bastard just loves to run his mouth."
I have this mandela effect where i swear, as a kid remember in Halo CE’s “the maw” when chief runs to the longsword fighter, he pushes some flood out of the way as they were catching up
Same
Might be RNG. If I remember right, if you somehow launch the warthog over the pylons it will show up in the cutscene.
I miss that old Halo 2 menu...
It's still in the game files probably, seeing how when the game lags it does show the classic menus
Me too, Chief.
I love the menu designs for Halo 2, but I always wished that the top of the main menu resembled the Alpha build.
@@KenyaSG how can I replicate this? Never seen it before
@@sgamer6015 I'm not sure I've played with modding but I haven't touched the menu screens yet
I always assumed the "dead talking elite" was just arbiter monologuing. and like half of this stuff I never noticed because me and my dudes even though we've replayed missions almost hundreds of times, we ran through them with such speed and efficiency the only time we stopped was to get ammo XD
Yeah me too.....but i thought that an elite was talking through the comms or something.
I remember he was in save able it all was died no matter how fast you tried
I thought it was Arbiter talking too, cause that elite looks dead as shit. I was confused how the Arbiter knew the brutes had killed the elite council just cause he saw some generic dead elites. I thought the generic elite corpses at the start of the mission had to be the council then, in which case why were they killed there of all places? Now it all makes sense.
I thought it was the camo elite that reveals himself to you later, i feel like i remember looking around and seeing him somewhere invisible
I always just assumed it was his dying words.
As someone with 4500 exp in social slayer on the OG Halo 3, allow me to correct #10. Social Slayer was 4v4 (back when shotty snipers would commonly come up in the playlist) until they switched it to 5v5 when they added the exp ranks next to your name in all the different playlists. I promise you that is what happened. I’ll never forget that. In fact, that is when the social Skirmish playlist was 5v5 instead. They literally swapped the 5v5 aspect out of Skirmish into Social Slayer in like 08 or early 09. Great video brother. Keep it up. 🖤
I was gonna say that I thought I remember a time when it was 4v4 but then at some point they changed it to 5v5... glad someone commented this and it’s cool that you remember specifically when it was changed
Possibly when they removed team tactical?
Thank you for reminding us. I was 9 when H3 came out and completely forgot about this lmao. Makes sense since H1 and 2 were always 4 v 4.
Halo 3 multi player software dynamics was the saddest, most easy moded for a 10 year old, that has ever been created. Thank the Gods that they came out with Reach Afterwards.
Added 1 extra player in rumble the free for all as well. Cause the added player messed up my flow on being my Highest skill rank
These aren't "remembering wrong" or examples of the Mandela effect.. almost everything in this video is just a bug in one version of Halo or another.
Yeah
I knew it! When I first played MCC I thought, "Wow, Halo CE really looked this bad? I remember it being a lot more detailed." Well, turns out it was.
MCC is a port of the original PC port, which was notoriously bad and lacked a lot of detail from the original XBox version.
The Captain Keyes one really bugs me. From what I understand, Gearbox accidentally set the wrong texture for Keyes when doing the port. It's the beta texture, and the Xbox correct texture is still in the files. How this hasn't been fixed yet is so strange.
From what I saw between the MCC OG graphics vs what I saw with Dee bee Geek's video of him playing the OG Halo Combat Evolved, as far as I've seen, there doesn't seem to be a difference with the two models.
@@TheRoseReaper the difference between the OG and gearbox port textures are there i.imgur.com/y30zkCj.png
Totally didn't accidentally fall into the hole at 13:28 guys just ignore that.
The OG Grunt Birthday Party skull looked dope
True dat
it was broken but really fun to use, especially in flood levels since that explosion actually do splash damage to other enemies, breaking their bodies most of the cases, it also damages weak enemies like infection forms and grunts
It was great you could literally headshot everything except drones n hunters
It also worked on dead bodies I have asked many times to have the original skull brought back to mcc but never have gotten any response from 343
@@samtheweebo combine it with Sputnik and it was the best thing in the world
I’ve literally played the armory split screen Co op plenty of times
The thing I remember most and miss the most about old school Halo were the physics for the warthogs. If you rammed into one with another, one of them we're both of them would go flipping through the air. My friends and I even had a game mode that we played using the warthogs. We would take them out on the ice and do demolition derby. The rule was no shooting of course and if you flipped somebody out of the warthog, you could try and splatter them before they get back in. It was loads of fun. We just called it warthogs on ice
It's been so long since I have had my OG xbox but the one thing that made me sad is when you said OG halo three matchmaking is being shut down
OG Halo 3 wasn't released on OG Xbox mind you (Not that you specially said it did).
All 360 Halo servers are being shut down. That includes Reach, ODST and 4. There are some other ones that are also being shutdown.
Time to start prepping our tunneling software xD
@@tet5ujin this would mean halo 4 and reach ect cant be played on even xbox one right unless bought specifically for an Xbox 1 version like mcc
This got me feeling some type of way tbh.. I still remember when halo 2 was shut down 10 years ago. On that day I thought about when the same would come for halo 3. Well now here it is
"the marines scanner is invisible"
nevermind the injured guys twisted leg
pfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hahhaahhah
Lmao didn't even notice
It was always there bro aliens invading me fooking mind
OMG THAT LOOKS SO PAINFUL
He is injured
A lot of people seem to forget or never knew that the needle rifle is a fully automatic weapon.
as well as the ce magnum
not halo but the raygun is automatic, it took me years to realize
Took me a while to realise that the XM1014 on CS:GO is full auto.
@@prophetofwatersheep8100 what raygun
I swear if this is true and I've been spamming the trigger the entire time...
1) it's because those weren't originally missions, they were just the beginning cut-scenes before Cairo Station
I remember watching a video a while talking about how poorly ported the original Halos 1 and 2 to MCC were. There were many visual effects that looked better on the original xbox, or just flat out omitted. Kinda sad if we wanna play with og graphics, we have to deal with a lifeless environment sometimes
Hey General, I've played Tsavo Highway more than any Halo 3 player. It's my all time favorite mission and accross multiple accounts I have probably over a thousand hours on that level. The Marine definitely used to have a visible scanner, idk how or why thats different. It's been a few months since I've played Halo in general but last I checked he had a scanner.
I'm with you on this one. If I know one thing its halo.
The evidence appears to suggest otherwise...
It's a glitch, sometimes he has it sometimes he doesn't.
@@n8dogue figured
No he never did, and your +1000 hours on that mission doesn't matter. Your mind places in what should be a scanner without you actually taking a good hard look at the scene. I would know, I'm your brain. We didn't see it.
The fog is also missing on MCC Two Betrayals, right? I remember in the original xbox mission the snow storm seemed a lot more intense.
That's because it's the PC Gearbox port that got rid of allot of effects for some reason. There is whole a video about it. Type in gearbox halo broken port.
they broke all transparent objects. cortana. jackal shields. fog. certain energy shields in the maps.
Thanks now I'm pissed off again
Yeah same thing. I've learned to live with it but it's too bad. The anniversary edition adds the moon up there so it's kind of atmospheric then.
Finally fixed it :)
The Halo 2 lightning bug is a carry over from the glorious Vista port.
Golden age of gaming was a whole different feel to what we have today I was emotionally invested in these games
Yeah we really lucked out and got to enjoy this era
This video brought back so much nostalgia I want to cry
Lots and lots of lost friends... whoever my old halo buddies are... I hope your still slaying as you did back then
I can confidently say I've never forgotten the missing lights on Hang Em' High and I'm actually confident (and always have been) that it was a very intentional change. Having the lights was actually incredibly annoying because you'd have to jump over them, otherwise you'd get stuck. That wasn't the ONLY instance of a change in the map in PC CE either. The more blatant one of course is the addition of arrows on Sidewinder along with two way teleporters to the base. A more subtle that I don't think many remember is that on Battle Creek you could fit through the base windows on the sides which you could not on Gearbox onwards.
I will say though that having actually popped my OG CE disc into my 360 recently stuff like the fog and Keyes are STILL easy to miss. The Jackal shields on the other hand are really easy to notice.
I'll also say that I did not know the elite's jaws moved if you hit him on Uprising; I knew he said the line but I was never sure it was hi cuz I never saw his mouth move.
And lastly I'll say the change in the Grunt Birthday Party skull is a tradgedy because the original was fun as hell. I actually remember learning that Flood combat forms have "heads" specifically because of that skull so I've never forgotten how it worked originally and I've always been bummed by how it's never worked like that SINCE then. In fact since 343 seems to like adding skulls it'd be nice if they tossed in a Classic Grunt Birthday Party skull in.
Don't forget the changed weapon sounds and the spinning weapon bug.
@@ShadowDragon-cw7wb Was there a change in sounds for PC? I thought it was only CEA that changed them. Spinning weapons I was certain was always thing in CE; The physics as far as I know are identical between Xbox and PC onwards except for PAL xbox which is weird.
@@ChouRaiyuki As far as I remember, weapons getting stuck in a spinning animation on slopes wasn't an original Xbox thing and the sound effects were changed in CEA. They fixed the grunt dialogue in MCC from CEA so they don't say the same two lines.
@@ShadowDragon-cw7wb weapon spinning glitch is definitely from OG H1 and is still current in every halo title to this day. It is simply a geometric collision glitch where the gun is trying to always lay flat on whatever surface it's on but is placed on a convex that is in no way flat and cannot "lay flat" on the surface it's on, so the collision of the object will continuesly "try" to lay flat until it does.
heads up, the 'hang on!' line was there because iirc in 2016-2017 MCC H2A Campaign had the Day at the Beach cutscene play right there.
That line would have been the Sergeant of 2nd squad.
I was looking for this comment, I remember its the same VA as that sergeant, he also makes his way to ark with us in H3 and calls out for all armor to form up on the chief after going through the wall towards the cartographer iirc, when you take the gauss hog to go around the corner to get your scorpion back, right before the scarab
Gearbox's terrible port of halo ce was a sign of their future mistakes such as colonel marines, battleborn, the writing of bordeelands 3, randy pitchfrod still working at gearbox.
At that time pretty much all Gearbox did were ports, PC to console and vice-versa. Most of those ports were actually pretty damn good, Half-Life on PS2 being a prime example. Halo PC is an exception rather than the rule.
@@russellbrown6888 I know which was why I said their halo ce PC port was a sign of things to come.
@@russellbrown6888 nightfire is an exception too
Tbh I always imagine what it would be like for people booting up halo 2 for the first time and then deciding to play CO-OP, they would miss the whole scene of the arbiter on trial and have the game start out at the reward ceremony where they would watch a random Elite get stripped naked and tortured with no context whatsoever.
equips *FIREFIGHT VOICE*
"why is my voice noble 6 in the *campaign* "
like huh?
Co-op on those missions was never possible i remember that clear as day because when id play with friends i would load up in SP first to show them that opening and then load back into co-op. Data pad thing in H3 was also always invisible
I just played the campaign with my friend a few weeks ago. We played both of those missions. It just spawns a second Banshee in Heretic. I don't entirely remember what it did for The Armory, but I think it was just showing my screen until I finished the scanner thing and then he spawned in.
@@Th3MadCreator What?? You mean the 2 banshees that are outside High Charity flying in the cutscene? Thats always been there.
@@theta_clips naw I played coop with my lil bro and it let us play both those missions lol
@@Th3MadCreator Youre thinking of a mission later in the campaign, the mission Heretic is literally the opening cutscene, thats all
I wish you would have mentioned Reach's broken postprocessing effects: Fog, rain, lighting bloom, etc is very reduced in Halo Reach in MCC
I believe those were fixed already, atleast on PC
@@beetheimmortal As far as i'm aware, it wasn't, where did you see it was fixed?
@Potato King The Digitalfoundry video on Reach's PC release talks about it a bit.
Reach is broken on MCC, tank betrayal glitch on firefight. Also the game types in firefight are different with what skulls are on, I feel messed with.
343i definitely has a lot of work to do to bring the MCC up to 100% accuracy with the originals
the pic in your pfp :) I made it. The Arc mission, many years ago. Actually many people use my pics
they will never get there. And then more I play the Anniversary games, the less I like them when I realize how much was changed with the art style and lighting. They totally kill the spooky and mysterious atmosphere of Halo CE and Halo 2.
@@MotorCityPhoenix313 First, I am confident that with continued work they'll restore each game to 100% parity with the originals. Second, just play in classic graphics. That's what I do. I haven't played Halo: CEA with the anniversary graphics since my Xbox 360 run.
@@MotorCityPhoenix313 Besides oracle what mission in Halo 2 had spooky vibes
@@MotorCityPhoenix313 Halo 2 Anniversary flat out improves on atmosphere in every situation lol.
Like sure there's some areas in Halo CE where it's less dark and spooky (like 343 Guilty Spark's jungle,) and the Library (though that one was because the Library was a terrible level and lighting it up was all they could do from a simple remaster to mitigate how bad it was.) But every single area where it's supposed to be "spooky and mysterious" in Halo 2, it's just as dark if not darker.
People need to stop this meme that actual dynamic lighting and shadows kill atmosphere, because it's never true. Any "atmosphere," you're imagining being gone in Halo 2 is literally because of graphical limitations of the time.
A crazy one I see is people completely forget that Halo 2 Legendary will revert a checkpoint in co-op if one person dies- and no, it wasn't added in MCC it was like this on OG too.
I absolutely remember the marine shouting "hang on" in an Australian accent too!! You cant tell me that never happened!
Check my comment. Do you think that's it?
I remember that when I played Halo 1 as a child, Captain Keyes was in one of the pelicans at the start of the fourth mission, but its not... I dont know if is a mandala effect or just the og xbox reusing some models like with sgt. Johnson.
The keys model for the gearbox pc port is due to Bungie giving gearbox earlier build material to work with instead of the final release material.
Whether it was a accident or one of Bungie's instances of hating 3rd party intervention in halo (with the novel initially and halo wars 1's devs)
I'm guessing having non-final source code is likely the reason for the other missing/changed graphics in the Gearbox PC port?
TheDapperCat mostly that but some things were either not possible in the change in hardware or were removed due to errors caused by said older build code (namely the jackal shields which was due to even code in the older builds not being intact)
those Halo 2 OG Xbox vs the MCC graphic comparisons always impress me (dare I say, blow me away.) I had absolutely no idea that the ''return to sender'' cutscene had such detailed lighting, which makes me wonder if it applies to other cutscenes or gameplay
I would love if you'd someday do an extensive comparison video on the subject, it just sounds so interesting
For uprising in Halo 2, I remembered the elite being alive and giving that dialogue before joining you to fight. In later versions I thought him being dead was the bug.
that 1st one is crazy because i literally have the memory of me and my best friend playing through *every* halo 2 mission coop. down to us getting mad at eachother for dying constantly in the beginning
Idk where the world went I miss the glory days of halo where this shit was top competitor with cod the game I grew up on died out n it’s like my childhood did to like the halo community needs more UA-camrs to spend my time on
I get what you're saying, and I agree, but I had to read your comment 3 times to understand.
Halo isn't dead at all. Tha is to MCC on pc it's getting more popular
I know this would be close to impossible to test... But would it be peossible "some" update broke certain things, like the scanner? Maybe a base copy not patched has the hand scanner working, or perhaps a updated copy. Worse. Maybe a patch in the middle of the life cycle made it work, but pre patch and post patch had it broken... Lots of things can have that dumbness happen.
This is probably the case, the scanner worked in the beginning and was glitched by an update early in the games lifecycle.
Don't know about the Halo 3 scanner, but everything else is in base versions with no updates. My xbox has never been online and I confirmed everything from halo CE and 2. Heed likely deleted all updates as well.
I am fairly certain that Halo e used to have 4v4 social slayer, and was changed when the title update was released to 5v5.
Thats so insane. I remember so vividly playing co-op on those first two missions with my brother.
You can idk why he says you cant he's wrong lmao not hating just letting people know you most def can play coop
@@ryanb465 Not on the first two missions
3:33 his mouth absolutely moves. I remember it so clearly, this was my favorite mission and I played it at least 300 times and I remember that at least half of the times his mouth moved. I also remember talking about it with my cousins and stepbrother separate times when the game first came out because of how strange it was.
I thought he was supposed to be injured and dying, warning you to be wary of the brutes
Damn I didn’t even know grunt birthday party was even in the original halo 2!
It was, and this guy is wrong about there not being confetti. There absolutely was, but it was not like the glowy orb stuff shown here. It was 2d sprite confetti.
@@GldnClaw that’s what confused me to, I had save file for it and would grab it and the Sputnik skull then replay missions for fun and don’t remember the exploding AI’s
@@GldnClaw absolutely not. It was incredibly jarring to me starting in Halo 3 to see confetti. It was very much just the plasma grenade.
Stop spreading misinformation. I have an original copy of halo 2, there was no confetti. The video was right about the lighting bugs though.
General Kidd: "You probably don't notice anything odd, right?"
[*Aims straight at an obvious graphical problem*]
Nah bro it looks good. 😳
The marine at the start of tsavo highway does that on purpose. A data pad was stolen by the first elite you can encounter in reach on legendary. Noble 6 marked the data pad for pickup, but nobody actually went to retrieve it, so the marines facetiously pretend to use one for lack of actual equipment.
Halo reach is a different game to Halo 3 though. I doubt the lack of supplies from before the esistance of Master Chief would effect the Halo 3 marines
@@JohnDoe-ny4qs Never underestimate the depth of facetiousness of marines.
For those speculating!
- Heretic from H2 is a cutscene, not a mission. Armory CAN be played Co-op however, player 2 simply "wont exist" until Cairo Station starts. (classic H2)
- Yes, the Marine DOES have a scanner in his hand on Tsavo Highway H3 and he's not the only one. Whatever is happening in this video is simply a bug or glitch (most likely missing asset file on MCC, or asset was corrupted past a certain update and never fixed)
- The fog on AoTCR & TB, H1 is gone because it was never fog to begin with, it was hard-baked into the lighting. (Although I do agree on 343i's laziness to not add it back using modern tech - such as actual fog rendering)
AND YES. MCC Has MANY Audio bugs, including "extra" dialogue and "cut" dialogue.
If you want to find out more about these topics, and the topics covered in this video I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching "Bungie Employees watch Halo Speedrun" or whatever the video is titled. 5 of the OG devs of OG H1 and H2 talk about Halo's development for like 2 hours straight.
as a kid i noticed the marine not having the medical scanner and always pointed it out
In the beginning of Two Betrayals, when Guilty Spark asked Chief if something is wrong, I vividly remember Chief saying, “No, everything is just fine.” But apparently he says “No, nothing.”
Not sure for you to be hones. I remember it always being "No, nothing"
Your version is out of character for him
For me it was always in Metropolis in halo 2. When you meet get banks on the balcony the Sarah comes in and steps over the building and then the rest of the mission plays out and you kill the scarab. When the Sarah walks over the building your standing on it knocks down a pole thing and it will randomly call but for some reason every time I played the mission (it still happens almost always for me) the pole crushes him and kills him. So for a very long time I thought he was scripted to die there until my brother told me it doesn't happen for him lol
yeah the marine CO doesn't die on the OG xbox version but for some reason the scarab always catches the pole when it climbs up the building in the MCC.
@@xsoultillerx Yeah on the og xbox it rarely killed and on MCC its guaranteed to kill him everytime.
@@MozambiqueEnjoyer6097 if you throw a grenade at the pole the scarab might not hit it
Lol who is Sarah
I hope Halo 2 cairo station on splitscreen is here. I remember doing the green and red light movement with a friend but I was told it wasn't split screen
Edit: literally the first one!!!!!
It's strange how it's not like that...
@@kabob0077 I swear it was! I remember it so clearly
@@Mr_Him Same here, I remember coop with my Sister and my parents playing Coop on The Armory.
@@kabob0077 Hardly any Halo games, including Halo 2, allow co-op in campaign with more than 2 players--the original Xbox and Xbox 360's hardware simply couldnt handle it.
So that's a false memory too.
I'm actually freaking out about this, like, not to long ago I got pissed at my brother for killing me there and he remembers that too. What the fuck is going on.
Number 1, I think people are confusing Halo 1 coop maybe. Could also be that you go through the armory later so it's melded together.
The missing dialog, I remember reading the subs and saying hold on, so maybe that's were it came from
The lights in hang’em high are annoying as hell so I’m glad they’re gone, the trench should be a smooth transition because being there in the first place is already risky enough considering you’re out in the open.
Yeah, I never enjoyed that section of the map when playing with friends on the Xbox, but the PC version made it more tolerable, although it definitely does look worse as a result.
I think that was a conscientious design decision to change it for the PC port and not a bug precisely because the lip made the trench way more dangerous than it needed to be.
That's a funny way to tell everyone you're bad at navigating the map.
OG CE. Git rekt newfriends.
Another thing I remember that never seemed to work in Halo 2 and Halo 3 MCC: You were able to carry weapons between missions.
I recall that happening between Mombasa Streets and Metropolis, and between Tsavo Highway and The Storm most prominently, but those were not the only mission "duos" where that happened.
It works between Cortana and Halo too on Halo 3.
It only worked for some missions, but it was a thing. I specifically remember re-arming before triggering the mission end to carry a particular weapon with me into the next mission, and only if you immediately continued to the next level. Could also place things in the ending cutscenes for cool or funny effect.
According to Late Night Gaming, Gearbox might have used aCaptain Keys model from an older version of the game before Bungie replaced it with a higher quality model.
Glad to see someone finally getting this information out. The MCC version isn’t doing the originals justice.
#1 is true af. It blew my mind a year ago when I introduced my friend to halo 2 and we could not co-op those mission. Just as you said I had vivid memories of doing them with 2 players before.
100 percent played it thru with my friend .
Wow, I want to use the old grunt birthday party now
Videos like these are living proof that you need to write scripts for UA-cam videos for them to be of any quality:
“You actually ummm yeah actually I umm *breathes into mic* it’s actually coz you’re remembering it wrong so yeah um they don’t *swallows spit* they remember it differently”
That was bothering me the whole video. So many words spoken that were just unnecessary. Even to the point of still continuing with the umming and ah'ing when the next 'memory' was rolling along.
maybe im misremembering but wasnt there a rocket launcher next to the dead marine in the room before the banshee bridge in assault on the control room? i dunno if thats false memory or MCC/pc port messed that up.
There's A launcher earlier in the mission but in the room before the bridge is some Hunters and rocket ammo packs. I haul that launcher through the whole way just to shoot a banshee before the elite can get in so I can fly it.
@@BC3789 Ah okay thank you, that makes sense.
in Reach, i was 110% sure Kat gets shot by a Jackal, which you see in close-up... turns out it’s a wide shot that barely reveals an elite Field Marshal was the sniper
Bro, I remembered the elite looking up at you, telling you how the brutes betrayed the elites…
He is not that big but he is the hardest working youtuber i know
I wish I could get 1000 views on UA-cam in the first 20 minutes of posting though.
I wish I could hit 100 views
Modding is not hard work.
@@akaunderdog4223 ye but like he works hard on his carrer
Hard working? Couldn't even be bothered to look up the name of one of the levels he was talking about.... You must be very easily impressed.
This is a re-upload, right? I swear I've seen this video before.
Bruh...Like, I could explain it, but...I'm not going to.
I knew the first one never existed because I remember watching the cutscenes in solo and then starting on co op
Thank you, this clears it up for me, I forgot that those were cutscenes
@@dennythejet4284 Yeah, armory is interactive like the very start of CE that also gets cut if you load co-op. setting up your look controls and shield test
You just remember playing the campaign together from the “beginning” (where it allows you to start on co-op), and this combined with your memories of having played it so many times by yourself (and/or with friends over) blends together. Still interesting though, I guess allot of us had really similar experiences.
Exactly, this video actually reminded me that you don't start until the third mission which is definitely true, I can remember in 2006 that my brother and I would play it constantly and even discussed the skipped levels.
You're exactly right with the memory thing, people will have blended their solo and co-op memory's, after all it has been over 15 years for most xx
I don’t know if this is the Mandela effect but I thought for a bit that halo wars 2 had master chief
There's no fuckin way about that first one, I still can remember my brother and I pushing crates in Armory to wedge it between the doors of the elevator. There's no fuckin way co op never existed.
I vividly remember playing splitscreen on armory with my cousin to try to push master gunns into the zapper but turns out that couldn't have been possible since no version of Halo 2 actually supported co op for Armory or Heretic
@@Generalkidd this is really freaking me out lmao
I have a vivid memory of me and my brother doing the exact same thing.
But, then again, I think I also remember being confused about the not being able to start the armory on co-op.
So now I am just confused.
Same memory
2:44 what if the elite on the ground is talking and those are its final words
I remember the halo series used to make people excited :'T
Sure I could get excited now about... free to play multiplayer, microtransactions, halo2-tier graphics, uh... killing Cortana again, not having an stable antagonist, years gap between games with the important stuff in an incomplete comic. Another cliffhanger I guess.
If Infinite sucks the series will die
@@somnus2658 Amen
Keep the servers for the OG up fuck mcc
@@bigmammaschughouse9691 I like how you say "fuck mcc," when the comment you responded to had nothing to do with MCC. It was about the more disappointing direction the non MCC games appear to be going (that technically started with Halo 4, but really became a big problem with Halo 5.)
For all intents and purposes, MCC's differences at this point are extremely small and being worked on regularly. The only people who are actually convinced they're game breaking just don't want to acknowledge the newer re-releases of games being better than the old ones they have nostalgia for.
Not to mention:
1. Halo 2's Servers were shut off years ago.
2. Halo 3, Reach and 4 get like maybe sub 1000 players online at peak times if they're lucky, whereas MCC gets like 10x that easily.
3. Not only was it a 30fps game instead of 60fps, but the controls were just flat out worse in older entries too, offering significantly less customization to button layouts, look sensitivity and had no options to set deadzones at all so you were stuck with the old extremely large deadzones. Nevermind the awkward aim acceleration zones for every Halo before 4 (that you can also toggle in MCC if you want the legacy feel.) Oh yeah you can get used to it after playing with it long enough, we all did, but it's just flat out wrong to say the miles better customization MCC offers isn't objectively superior.
4. The old servers are literally obsolete, before MCC the series operated on Peer-to-peer instead of dedicated servers that MCC does. The latter is just flat out better. People need to stop pretending the MCC servers are worse when they fixed them ages ago, if these were the Launch MCC servers where they had tons of issues you'd maybe have a point, but they aren't.
@@Robbie_Haruna MCC is fantastic, honestly. Even with these bugs, it puts 6 working games under one roof and manages to get them all to work together. There are some really fun (and terrible) achievements and endless things to do. MCC is one of the best things to happen to Halo. Never has it been this easy to host custom games and have so much access to so many different games. You don't have to change disks, or games, just move to a different menu and have access to a bunch of other custom games. The only things that I hope for are a better file share system and custom game browser, which is coming hopefully in the next update since it's in the upcoming flight.
It might have taken a long time for MCC to be really worth it, but damn, it's really good now.
I remember the first day playing halo 2 with my cousin and being so confused we couldn't play the first two in coop. Suprised people dont have that memory, it's so memorable to be so confused lol
yea same
Wow, I had forgotten about your channel for a while, then this video got uploaded and it’s like returning to my Minecraft house after a long voyage
I remember Cortana making me a lesbian. But im not...
Every Halo game is Personalized
I remember combining the OG Grunt Birthday skull with the Sputnik skull and watch enemies (and allies) fly into the atmosphere. Good times
The funny thing about the Grunt Birthday Party skull was that if you combined it with the Cowbell skull you'd send every enemy into the stratosphere whenever you killed them because the effect was made by a plasma grenade explosion.
Outskirts was my favorite mission, probably played it over 500 times on the OG Xbox, I CAN STILL HEAR THE MARINE SAYING HANG ON!
Mandela effects and GPU Rendering are completely different things my guy.
I’ll add one more from CE. In assault on the control room and two betrayals cortana is supposed to change colors from green to purple.
1:04 I literally remember playing co op with my friend on those missions there is no way
It's because they aren't missions. Heretic is the intro cutscene and the Armory is Chief adjusting his aim. The first actual level is Cairo Station.
@@VegetaLF7 i remember splitscreen on armory
@@187-v5q Yeah original H2 I was in the armory in split screen too. I would always run between my uncle and the aim markers to fck up his exams
@@BC3789 kinda weird not gonna lie
@@BC3789 Yeah this dude just put close to 0 research in to his vid.
I KNEW IT! I KNEW I WASNT LOSING MY MIND! MCC scuffed the lighting on the Halo 2 bomb scene so bad 😂
@Generalkidd Halo 2, Metropolis, the twin bridges scarab gun, there used to be a cutscene. When chief grabbed it, a cutscene used to play showing chief walking up to it asking how it got up there and why it was hovering. Cortana said she was scanning it and said something about it having a modified power supply and being different from a normal plasma rifle. This was back on the original xbox version. But for some reason it no longer appears and only a handful of us remember it. This is a true Mandela effect with halo.