This Japanese Drummer's BLAST BEAT Just Left Me Speechless (and sore)!
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2023
- -This Japanese Drummer 's BLAST BEAT Just Left Me Speechless (and sore)!
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Saw these guys live last year, they are INSANELY tight. Probably the most precise live act I've seen, they would routinely just stop playing for 30 plus seconds and as soon as the crowd went quiet they were just back in with no count. Absolutely unreal, I love them so much.
Starting the songs with no count was crazy to watch live. They are superb and super fun.
guys?! ayo
Saw them last February. Absolutely insane. I almost skipped the show and I'm so glad that I didn't. Definitely one of my top shows that I've seen.
My favorite band after discovering them early last year.. Got to see them in LA last September.. Absolute masterclass in punk and precision.. Just mouth on the floor the whole time.. Like seeing Domi & JD.. These kids are on a whole new level and I'm here for it
I got a bit obsessed with figuring out how they come in so quickly - if you notice the singer, she does something with her hands & head movement just before they come in. They're all watching the singer at all times to know exactly when to come in, and I guess they rehearse the absolute living shit out of their songs. Even still, they are so impressive live. It's pure chaos but it's also rehearsed to an inch of its life
Otoboke Beaver is amazing. Great punk band.
And I love that they are getting more and more recognition with the years
Same here. I love Shonen Knife as well.
Waiting for El Estepario to do it with one hand only 😄
He’ll somehow do it with no hands while baking bread.
@@TheArtofGuitar 😆😆
He doesn’t use his feet?
@@TheArtofGuitar
He’ll bake a soufflé, take it out, and it won’t deflate.
@@TheArtofGuitarhahaha
The fun thing about this song is, that the album version is at about 220-225 bpm but they play it way faster during live shows (as they do with some of their other songs as well). Kahokiss has stated in an interview that she started challenging herself to play this song faster and faster, so apparently she's arrived at 240 bpm by now. I wonder if she's gonna try to play it even faster at future shows.
But the band is pretty insane from a rhythmic point of view in general. If you listen to their albums you'll notice a lot of times they drop a quarter or even a sixteenth note here and there, which makes it sound a lot more chaotic and somewhat like it's accidental. But then they perform those weird rhythmic anomalies live and you realize it's all on purpose and they're just crazy good musicians.
Yes, I think the song was basically a technical exercise to see how fast the rhythm section could play - hence the lack of chord changes and the like!
One of the things about this band is that their early material (which is also great by the way!) was written conventionally on guitar by the singer, Accorinrin. However she says she gave up playing guitar and now writes exclusively using vocal lines and melodies which are then arranged by the band as a whole. This explains some of the unusual rhythms they play, so if you listen to a lot of their songs the rhythm is mapped almost phonetically to the vocal. Therefore you get strange effects like the song "Dirty Old Fart..." starting with what sounds like half a beat or something. No count in of course because they never do count ins,live they rely on visual cues or, and I've seen this with my own eyes, the sound of the singer's breath before she starts singing
Or they always make the same mistakes ;)
I saw this act live last year and they somehow kept up this energy for the whole set, it was unbelievable
I swear Japan bands are beyond amazing to me especially in metal/punk scene.
Bands like Fk on the Beach, Catasexual Urge Motivation, SOB, Go-Zen, Maggut are all killer JP bands
If you watch her right hand closely, she's bouncing the stick, not driving it. Such an elegant technique.
I also noticed she's turned more to the left than you are, which lines her arm up with the snare and hi-hat so that she's just moving her arm forward and backward, not left to right. The drumming equivalent of economy picking.
I was looking for a comment saying something like this. I know pretty much nothing about playing drums, but it looked to me like Mike is making himself move his hand/arm in two planes, back and forward as well as side to side, and in the reference video it looks to me like the snare drum and high hat are aligned so that the young lady only has to go back and forward to alternate. Now I don't mean to minimize the skill and endurance required to be able to do this for an entire song at all, but it seems to me that optimizing the placement of kit components and seating position to make everything as efficient as possible by minimizing stick and arm travel and especially cutting the planes in which the stick and arm have to travel and reverse directions at such breakneck speed in half may well play a role in taking it from impossible to only nearly impossible. Now this is purely speculation on my part and regardless of what all might be optimized the ability to not only do this but to maintain it for an entire song is nearly incomprehensible to me, but if you're going to challenge yourself by attempting this madness it seems only fair to look for any ways to economize movement that might help. Does anyone make carbon fiber or some other super lightweight drum sticks that might help? If so, attempting this seems like a good excuse to avail oneself of some. ;)
gravity blast
Good observation, but still doesn't look like blast beat. Although, left hand may bounce and right hand may possess gravity bounce to it.
I came here to say this ^^^
Yeah. Her setup has the snare as close to in line with her body and the hihat as as possible.
Seen them in KC and like everyone else we were blown away! You must see this band live!
"I have to see this band live." That was literally the first thought I had when I heard this band, too. And since they were doing a US tour at that time, I caught them in Chicago. Even my girlfriend, who's not a fan, was impressed by the pure energy they had for the entire set. Cannot wait to see them again.
I have flown all over the country just to see Otoboke Beaver play over and over again. Every band member is a monster.
Your guitar videos are legit but it's always special when we get an art of drums video too
Congrats on 808k Subscribers! This is insane! They make it look so effortless. I loved how small she looked behind that bass too. Great energy from all of them.
Band slays live
Otoboke Beaver gives me Melt Banana vibes, and that's an absolutely awesome thing. Sick blast beat; that drummer is insanely good (as is the rest of the band).
I was thinking melt banana as well. They have to be fans. I would think of course
This is seriously the best band i’ve discovered in over 20 years. I can’t remember the last time a band excited me this much. You get the impression that these girls live together 24/7 and do nothing but rehearse. The guitarist said that they write songs by trial and error, there’s serious work gone into this. They manage to sound chaotic while playing with razor precision.
I'm an old-skool punk rocker, but seeing Otoboke Beaver live made me realise that I never want to see bands full of old men with receding mohawks singing songs about Thatcher and Reagan ever again. In 2023, the best punk rock is being played by the young, mostly by women and largely by the Japanese.
Yes. ..Just look a thier tour schedule. They've been playing practically non stop all year
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@@MrRelaxedanderson Bet you weren't there in 77 tho judging by Mohawks and Reagan so if that's the case you're not old skool you're a 2nd waver 👍👍
@@gmantramp404Anarcho-punk originally but, being born in '78, I was very late to the party. I didn't see Conflict back when the show ended with a burning police van outside. I saw them when you weren't allowed to smoke inside.
She's an old school Hardcore drummer. Never misses a beat
The guitarist normally plays an SG but I think that thing she’s using now is a custom job. There isn’t a weak link in Otoboke Beaver - they’re all superb, and the arrangements they use are really interesting, with the interplay between guitar and bass.
The bassist is absolutely insane too. She looks so chill while following Yoshie's riffing with lots of walking patterns and fills.
The guitar is a 'G.Suparna ROBIN Otoboke Beaver Yoyoyoshie model', apparently
You MUST see this band live. They are just incredible. And they are all monster players.
If you get a chance to see them live definitely go for it. One of the best shows I’ve ever been to
These guys are fabulous musicians.
If you get a chance to see them live, grab it!! They’re phenomenal - incredibly tight and the singer has the audience in the palm of her hand
"I have to see this band live", exactly my thought since I discovered them on bandcamp. I have already two records of them.
one of grandma’s old favourites.
Noone messes with the beaves! They great
They played this song every night on their last tour. Absolutely blew my mind when I saw it live.
I have listened and consumed and played a LOT of blast beats over the years, and I have never heard or seen one like this before. Love it.
You are right, you do need to see this band. I got into them over the pandemic and went to see them last month in London. Great songs, great chops, awesome show and above all big FUN!!
They are playing here in Australia soon!
That is grind done right 👍
I love them and I need to see them live.
How does that girl make it look so easy what the heck and mike that was super impressive I can’t believe you plulled that off great job man
Exactly! I’m gonna keep practicing and will follow up next week or so.
@@TheArtofGuitar It's called gravity blast, many death metal drummers are using this technique...
@@Cycopacethat's not a gravity blast.
@@Cycopacegravity blasts utilize the rim of a drum to reach insanely fast beats.
@@TheArtofGuitar I don't know, something is not clear to me here. This is not a blast beat, this is one of her beats that she performs, unusual but not a blast beat. If this is a blast beat, then Lombardo beat it in 1986 and Charlie Benante beat a nuclear blast beat with SOD in the early '80s. (In fact, he probably played the first blast beat then, he and Sandoval in Terroriser). Blast beat today has a million bands, and in the past Napalm Death, Nile, Lock Up etc...
Hell yeah, they're creating this chaotic energy, but look at how precise they all are. They are ON IT. It's not just the song being at a high tempo, they are all very actively doing stuff at that tempo.
Kaho was playing with a broken foot here as well. As the great Jimmy Watkins says "This is either music written by a wheelbarrow full of fireworks, or the four most talented musicians in the universe..."
The first time I heard Love Is Short a couple of years ago, I was totally blown away by how raw they sound but also how tight they sounded. They're great!
Damn dude!! You're awesome. I'm so glad you did this. I just got my snare drum out the other day to practice my blast technique.. you just pushed me to go all in... Kismet for sure! 🤘🤘
I've been listening to Otoboke Beaver since their first album and the original drummer (Pop) announced she was leaving the band right after that album. I was so disappointed as they were really awesome then. Then they announced that Hahokiss would join as the drummer and I listed to the interaction between Kiss and Hirochan (Bassist) - WOW!!!!! The perfect Rhythm section, they just bounce off each other. It's my dream to see them live, maybe they'll come to The Philippines some time!
Crazed-fierce-fun drumming of Kahokiss 😊
Thanks for give her a highlight
This band has been on my playlist for a while. They absolutely kill it! ❤❤❤
Saw them in Wellington NZ Oct 2023.
Easily in my top 3 best live shows I have ever been to.
This song is great.
Yes! You need to see them live. I saw them in Chicago last fall. Most awesome!
Oh I love them!
That was just about as entertaining, as the original vid, especially right at the end! I can play drums (to a recreational degree) but my brain doesn't necessarily register counting so much. That you broke it down, called out the BPM's then made the progression to 250 was both commendable, and very much put what she's doing, into perspective. I'm a little gassed just watching!👏👏👏
Kahokiss is an amazing drummer. I've seen them live twice in the last year. Truly incredible live band. They bring it hard from go. Yes, you HAVE to see this band live. There's nobody like them.
Wrong.....
Black Midi and just as advanced in prowess 👍👍
Btw Stray Cats want a word as well 😂😂😂😂
Saw them back in march and man were they good, absolutely blew my ears off in the tiny venue they played in. Already bought tickets to see them again next year I love how they interact with the crowd and genuinely look like they're having fun.
My favorite band for a few years. I saw OB in NYC October ‘22 and twice in February ‘23. They almost killed me; I was front and center all three times. They kick you in the face and just keep on kicking your face the whole set, all the while playing this complex, disjointed, noise punk, screaming, gang vocals, Yoyo, the buzzsaw guitarist, stage diving, and keeping everything on point. Incredible band. There is NOTHING in the world remotely like the Beaver.
I've seen them four times over the last year and they might be the best live band going right now, they're just supernaturally locked in with each other as a singular force. This song is always a highlight of their set. They actively discourage fans from posting concert footage to UA-cam (they're okay with sharing on Insta/Facebook) which is why that's hard to find, but you can find plenty of their official videos and live appearances on their official channel and Damnably Records (their label). A lot of their stuff has more hooks & melodies than this but they really leaned into the drinking-from-a-firehose noise blasts on their most recent album.
Japan keeping Punk alive.
That is absolutely not a blastbeat. But, it's crazy freaking fast.
Glad i’m not the only one who noticed this
My jaw dropped on this. The energy is intense.
Excellent. Thank for the tip. Im gonna go find them now 😊
i think the band is awesome! For me is this blend of craziness and attitude that i simply love.... i would love if i get to see them live some day... Good job on the video, the beat is insane!
She has that finger technique going on too, her left hand stays pretty relaxed
They played here in Atlanta in February. Blew my mind. I'm a prog/jazz/folk-type, but love great punk. These ladies are the best. Stunning musicianship all around, but the drumming is just insane. Definitely a must-see group.
Whoa! I... I don't know what to say either! 😲 that looks so impossible. I am immediately adding them to my already infinity long playlist. 😅 they are so punk rock! 💙🤘🏻❤️🔥
I just found out about Otoboke Beaver a few weeks ago on Spotify and they're incredible. They're so powerful and have a very fun discography! Glad you found them out too
Whoa! They're amazing! Definitely checking them out.
They're insanely tight and shred!
Reminds me of that Japanese video of the person in a animated character suit shredding on the drums. Great find and thank you for sharing it.
You must see the band live, saw them last year and a couple months ago. So much fun!
I only tried drumming for a short while and I sucked at it, but that allows me to get an idea of what's going on.
Unless the perspective is tricking me, and I might be totally mistaken, but both of you seem to play it with really different technique:
- She seems to have changed her posture for the blast beat, like she turned a bit over to the left in order to allow her right arm to move more or less back and forth to hit either the snare or the hi-hat. You're sitting in a standard position, moving your right strictly sideways in order to hit the snare or the hi-hat.
- She's actually using her arm as a whip, like in the linear drumming style used in funk, doing everything in a very fluid way. It's her whole right shoulder that seems to reposition her arm to hit whatever is necessary at a time. Again, mostly back and forth movement, not too much sideways.
- In general she's way more fluid about the way she moves, she seems to go back to a standard stance whenever it's necessary, then she turns to the left again when she needs to do the blast beat. You're stiffer, it reminds me of my first tries strictly downpicking Master of Puppets.
Just with these two minor temporary changes in your technique I think an accomplished drummer like you would be able to play it with way less effort!
Great observation
I try not to separate music between countries but damn japanese bands just are something else, I am really interested in knowing more about this one
You’re right! Like they have a high level across a lot of bands! If you like metal Dir en Grey is a fantastic one to check out. All of them are superb musicians too, but especially their drummer, bassist and vocalist!
Nice, love that early death metal tempo. The hi-hat pattern that she weaves into it is a very cool addition.
Otoboke Beaver goes back on the road this month on the 22nd and they'll be on the road until December 3rd - I hope they have a stupendous tour!
I saw the live last October in S. F. and they were awesome!
I dig this
That song was off the chain. It had a punk feel but fresh and killing it.
great band, I discovered them with the release of their last album Super Champon, sadly have not been able to catch them live...
What size sticks do you use? I practice with 2B sticks and play mostly with 8A sticks.
It makes a huge difference when you switch to smaller sticks after warming up with heavier ones.
Kinda like hiking with a heavy backpack then feelings super light once you take it off
Not much on UA-cam? They blew up in 2019. Heavy hitters like Ulrich and Navarro were mentioning them in interviews and Fantano put Itekoma Hits at number 80 in his top 100 albums of the 2010s.
They're great. They just played as part of the Jazz festival (?!?) in town here the other day at one of my favourite small venues
Some great Japanese Bands and they don't disappoint
Excellent job!. There are a lot of japanese rock and metal bands that are actually top notch and usually their common denominator is that they are probably better live than in the studio. It would be great if you could do a deeper dive into the music of that country (Marty Friedman would approve it). Thank you very much
I’ve been down an Otoboke Beaver rabbit hole for the past few days and got this video to thank for it
I saw you commented on a video that Grapevine Fires by Death Cab is what motivated you to get into drums. I'd love to see you do a cover of the drums on that song.
おとぼけビ～バ～が注目されている。嬉しい！
They just played here in Hawaii last month (March '23), but unfortunately couldn't go, and now wish I had!
They're playing here in Melbourne in 3 weeks! Wild.
Where ?
@3beejay3 Thornbury Theatre. 24th and 25th. Looks sold out though. 😓
perfect mix of early Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, Minuteman and Lucrate Milk. Such a crazy and very great punk groupe. Can't wait to see em live in France !
The angles of the hh and snare are different. She can use her bigger back muscles that don't tire as quickly because she's pulling her arm more back and forth vs you rotating at the shoulder. Try lining it up!
I saw them live in Orlando. Fucking phenomenal!
Otoboke Beaver is sick love. Saw them here in Chicago. They ripped and the crowd went nuts.
Wow they look like fun bunch! Love them!
I saw them live in Glasgow with Drinking Boys and Girls Choir as support, their drummer MJ is arguably faster than Kaho 🤣
Your drum sound is on point.
That's the Japanese Sound, man. Total energy.
Welcome aboard the Otoboke Beaver train. They are awesome. Caught them live twice in the last year.
I’m gonna see them next month. 😄
Such an amazing band. Im pretty sure the singer writes most of the music. I could be wrong but im pretty sure i saw that in an interview.
You're right, she has always written the songs. She used to write conventionally on guitar but now she comes up with vocal parts and then works with the band to come up with arrangements that fit. It reminds me a bit of how Captain Beefheart used to work.
Otoboke Beaver rocks... truly brilliant.
Saw Otoboke Beaver two nights ago here in NC. The tightest band EVER it was excellent.
Yeah I seen it on Facebook reels and she was playing so fast it was insane
I remember just seeing it for like 4 seconds and was floored
Don’t think non-drummers will understand how hard this is to do
Tommy Ramone RIP was a non drummer and didn't have technical skills but guess who the legend is 👍👍
Can you add a link of the band?
La técnica esta buena, lo más lindo de todo esto es que ellas tocan sus temas con el corazón.
I've loved Otoboke Beaver fir years. Real modern punk. Brilliant.😊
Saw them live last month. Best punk show in my life
Oh yeah. I saw them in San Diego. They slap so hard!
OTOBOKE BEAVER are currently touring the U.S. I saw them two weeks ago, and I can’t remember the last time I had so much fun.
They were just here in MN. I blew it! :(
I have the same bass!
The drummer of that band makes that band! Wow!