What Went Wrong With Star Wars Rebels? [Why Clone Wars was So much Better]

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  • @geetslys
    @geetslys  5 років тому +289

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  • @sjins1poolboy698
    @sjins1poolboy698 5 років тому +4625

    Clone Wars was just an elegant series from a more civilised time

    • @Meynze
      @Meynze 5 років тому +65

      I like this one

    • @Manglet762
      @Manglet762 5 років тому +99

      This...perfectly sums up TCW and the shows it coexisted with un-ironically, intentionally or not. Kids Shows had more overall quality in that time period, and even more quality in the time before Clone Wars.

    • @Finn-ev2lx
      @Finn-ev2lx 4 роки тому +4

      Sjin's #1 Pool Boy nice

    • @benogurok5175
      @benogurok5175 4 роки тому +2

      which ones?

    • @asgth6147
      @asgth6147 4 роки тому +7

      Can't say i expected to see Sjin's #1 pool boy here, does Sjin have a pool for you to clean in these days?

  • @Spongebrain97
    @Spongebrain97 5 років тому +4454

    Rebels just couldn't decide if it wanted to be sequel to clone wars or a Saturday morning cartoon for little kids. Either one would've been fine but at least choose

    • @Leitis_Fella
      @Leitis_Fella 5 років тому +153

      This. Cosmonaut Variety Hour's review sums it up

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 5 років тому +195

      @@Leitis_Fella yup. Occasionally there would be something good but any two episodes are marooned from each other by a sea of filler episodes

    • @JosephPostingStuff
      @JosephPostingStuff 5 років тому +74

      It’s a Series where it’s nice to watch the great clips but not binge the entire series. the last like 5 episodes which were really good but some episodes especially season one were kinda ehh to forgettable

    • @jlassijlali290
      @jlassijlali290 5 років тому +15

      true for me ... season 4 was so good they just end it when it start being great

    • @Draconianoverlord55
      @Draconianoverlord55 5 років тому +41

      It makes me angry that they changed cannon with such a childish series

  • @cmd31220
    @cmd31220 4 роки тому +677

    You can tell exactly how good Rebels COULD have been, too. The final scene between Maul and Kenobi is pure cinema, and the fight between Ahsoka and Vader is amazing and emotionally packed to the brim (as long as they aren't cutting back to the annoying main characters, that is).
    It just goes to show how good of a writer Filoni is when he's simply allowed to work

    • @EpicGamer-fl7fn
      @EpicGamer-fl7fn 4 роки тому +35

      @@DillsyYourDaddy67 I dont fully agree on the whole Rebels boycott a lot of fans seem to have but i do agree on one thing. There was a lot of room to make it better.
      The fact that we dont see onscreen deaths is more of an inconvienience than a problem, And it's purely something fans picked up to hate on just beacuse Clone Wars had deaths. So i dont think it would be even possible to change that considering this show was running on Disney XD .
      I feel like in a lot of ways this show is exactly like the prequel trilogy. You can just see the potential, you can see all the great ideas, but they lack in execution. Only this time it's only slightly better, some of them were pulled off in a great way and some of them are kinda bland or just too much. I'd love to see Rebels being shown from a more worse side than we usually see in the movies. I'd want them to adress the issues of killing sometimes and entire fucking cruiser full of people without any hesitation. To show that they arent really the good guys either, just as Empire isnt as bad either. Irl as far as im aware Rebel groups in Africa especially are often seen as nothing more than just a bunch of brutal terrorists. I'd want to see that. Instead what we got is Saw Garrera being scholded for being "too radical" . Scholded mind you by a fucking Mandalorian and a Jedi that at this point contributed in murdering thousands of people on various cruisers and ships they destroyed. Yet they schold him beacuse he's just beating someone up? Yeah no that is the real problem. It lacks the depth it could have. In a perfect world Garrera could be scholded by someone who didnt commited mass genocides and murders. Then it would work perfectly but oh well.
      Tl ; DR : i like this show, but i do recognize it's actual flaws. and i see those repeating arguments like "bad artstyle" "no deaths grrr" and "show is for kids i hate it" as nothing more than petty and stupid argumentation.

    • @glassbirds
      @glassbirds 4 роки тому +3

      CMD 3
      enslaved Filoni
      free him
      I have freed him, but at what cost?
      oh no, the Filoni is committing quality storytelling

    • @glassbirds
      @glassbirds 4 роки тому

      Lanxerun you put that perfectly, wow
      I don’t even get the art style argument, I find it pretty nice besides a few proportion issues and whatever the hell they did to some of the perspectives on the loth-wolves

    • @EpicGamer-fl7fn
      @EpicGamer-fl7fn 4 роки тому +8

      @@glassbirds The whole artstyle argument is completly subjective to begin with, with few exceptions which everyone seems to agree on like Anakin Skywalker's portrayal. I honestly havent met a single person that would actually defend that, hell i dont even defend it, i wouldnt call them lazy if they would just use the model they used for his season 7 appearance in Clone Wars.

    • @glassbirds
      @glassbirds 4 роки тому +3

      Lanxerun I just want them to fix Yoda at this point lmaoo

  • @DanTheMan-hg6un
    @DanTheMan-hg6un 4 роки тому +1111

    Does anyone remember when grievous crushed a clones head through his helmet with his foot in front of a bunch if ither clones and Obi Wan Kenobi

    • @radbman5932
      @radbman5932 4 роки тому +194

      "You'll regret that."
      It takes a lot to get under Kenobi's skin.

    • @Cresif
      @Cresif 4 роки тому +38

      And that is part of what this entire Video is saying.

    • @pit_droidvr9995
      @pit_droidvr9995 4 роки тому +10

      Oh yeah yeah

    • @randomcenturion7264
      @randomcenturion7264 4 роки тому +63

      I remember that scene. Cody even reaches out in an utterly futile, but touching attempt to save his brother.
      Grievous could be a real dick at times.

    • @sryan9547
      @sryan9547 4 роки тому +63

      Do you remember when that Shark Guy in the Water war arc stabbed 6 people with dagger bombs and then they all exploded into a cloud of blood on camera and then a minute later the Shark Guy also gets blown up into a cloud of blood and we see his decapitated head floating by the camera?
      That was gross lol what the fuck

  • @darthmortis9960
    @darthmortis9960 5 років тому +3725

    *FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE DAMN TOOTHPICK LIGHTSABERS*

    • @tarnyowl6068
      @tarnyowl6068 5 років тому +441

      The whole look of rebels looked like a downgrade from previous animated series.

    • @_strikefalcon33_91
      @_strikefalcon33_91 5 років тому +89

      Ever seen A New Hope?

    • @darthbradmedia8929
      @darthbradmedia8929 5 років тому +14

      Genji Shimada yeah I didn’t like that.

    • @HK-gd2ts
      @HK-gd2ts 5 років тому +301

      What about the helicopter lightsabers?

    • @AS-kg4fo
      @AS-kg4fo 5 років тому +107

      Yes! Ugh they're so stupid! Disney knows nothing about lightsabers

  • @Cheesehead_Caleb
    @Cheesehead_Caleb 4 роки тому +229

    I think the scene that best sums up the kiddyness and refusal to acknowledge darkness of rebels was the scene where Sabine THOUGHT the dutchess killed her mother and brother. Enraged and sickened that her own creation is responsible for the death of her family, she flys into a blind rage and..... disarms the nearest stormtroopers by cutting their blasters in half. She doesnt stab or decapitate them. She disarms them. This is the perfect situation to allow a main character to go a bit dark and have some depth, but no.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon 3 роки тому +35

      The showrunners were afraid to go there but the writers wanted to so badly. Rebels is a show that always hurts me because you know how good it could be and sometimes it manages to but then it holds itself back because of the Disney policy... Damn it, Disney. It could have been so much more than what it ended up being.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon 3 роки тому +8

      @Pedro Ortega Like, I am really not left but something about big companies with monopolistic ambitions really gets my blood boiling and Disney is no exception from this rule. Like, they take _anything_ and turn it into this soulless, bland mix that just cute. I mean, I get it with some of their products but they are turning culture into cuteure and as someone that loves good stories - this stuff doesn't cut it for me. Like, what's next? Disney Shakespeare? When does this end...

    • @jonathantheslow
      @jonathantheslow 3 роки тому +2

      I just picture the Stormtroopers actually getting killed when that stuff happens.

  • @billmelater6470
    @billmelater6470 4 роки тому +1992

    Rebels wasn't horrible, but it got too "cute" and comedic.
    Side note: I hated the pencil thin, foil-like lightsaber blades. It just bothered me.

    • @jeffgalus8454
      @jeffgalus8454 4 роки тому +82

      That first season was to bubble gummy for my taste

    • @philltime7873
      @philltime7873 4 роки тому +31

      Bill Melater you are wrong I only enjoyed one scene which was instantly ruined by Ezra everything basically sucked in this show

    • @m_y_o_j_o
      @m_y_o_j_o 4 роки тому +43

      Wait... they had lightsabers??? I thought they just had the hilt! Ig the blades were so thin we couldn’t see them lmaooooo

    • @protostar5946
      @protostar5946 4 роки тому +76

      The Inquisitors can also fly like bloody helicopters. ._.

    • @tomgeytenbeek2207
      @tomgeytenbeek2207 4 роки тому +16

      @@protostar5946 ARRRG-(PTSD flashbacks ensue)

  • @turtle5086
    @turtle5086 5 років тому +1792

    Lets be honest it was other factors aswell including,
    - Ugly downgraded Animation.
    - Cookie cutter plot lines.
    - Childish fan fiction writing and conclusions.
    - Annoying main characters.
    - The miss-representation of the empire.
    - Thrawn being brought back but only to be wasted and as a shadow of what he was in legends.
    - Thin lightsabers.
    - Not showing that much of how the actual rebellion was built.
    - Filler episodes.
    - Ezra Bridger.
    - PLOT ARMOUR.
    Okay maybe alot of reasons.

    • @Manglet762
      @Manglet762 5 років тому +112

      Ok, you're allowed to say all of that except PLOT ARMOR. TCW has TONS of plot armor moments that you don't really need to dig deep to find.

    • @goldenstatewarriors9418
      @goldenstatewarriors9418 4 роки тому +187

      @@Manglet762 Fair enough TCW has plot armor too but it didn't harm the show as much. Sure some characters were not allowed to die but the only character the plot armor really harmed was General Grevious.

    • @rafabuda0
      @rafabuda0 4 роки тому +109

      ok, let's go through one at a time:
      - Animation: they tried to base the animation off of concept art from the movies and while that is commendable, that art really doensn't look good in 3D motion.
      - Plot: what did you expect? it wanted to be a saturday morning cartoon
      - Writing: again, Saturday morning cartoon
      - Main Characters: man they were bad, only good ones were Kanan and Herrah (also fuck Ezra)
      - Empire: not just the empire in general, every villain is incopetent to no end. just look at the inquisitors that replaced the Grand Inquisitor, or should I say Imperial Team Rocket.
      - Thrawn: no argument there, poor bastard.
      - Lightsabers: also from the concept art but those were just unconfortable to look at, like they were trying to slash someone with a rapier.
      - Rebellion: well ain't that just peachy, a series about the rebellion not showing anything about said rebellion.
      - Filler: Yep.
      - Ezra: and the prize for worst character in Star Wars goes to... this kid! for stealing the focus from every tense scene in the series!
      PLOT ARMOR: be honest, did you really expect anyone from the team not to succeed? or for anyone besides Kanan to die? Ezra is the protag, Sabine is the writers' pet, Zeb and Chopper are comic relief and Herrah is in Rogue One, there was no way for any of them to not have plot armor.

    • @braca8169
      @braca8169 4 роки тому +16

      Rafael Iasbeck Dalcol where is hera in rogue one?

    • @salomekekelia1508
      @salomekekelia1508 4 роки тому +41

      The only reason I stayed was the old characters from the Clone Wars

  • @MarntchManatee
    @MarntchManatee 4 роки тому +317

    How to neutralize an enemy in:
    The Clone Wars: shoot, slash, stab, punch the enemy until they are either knocked out or dead
    Rebels: *SLASH THE BARRELS OFF THE GUNS AND WATCH THEM FALL TO THE GROUND FROM 0 INJURY TO THEM*

    • @jessejgs
      @jessejgs 4 роки тому +37

      Exactly, it’s so annoying to watch.

    • @themelon_1785
      @themelon_1785 3 роки тому +26

      It got to the point where I’m not even exaggerating, a Mando just tapped the helmet of 2 stormtroopers and they just died
      I’m actually not exaggerating, it really was as soft as a tap,

    • @243Abolerz
      @243Abolerz 3 роки тому +18

      I saw it different. To me, I don't think Kanan and Ezra liked to kill stormtroopers unless they actually had to. At least that's what I tell myself in the head to justify it lol but it does make sense. Throughout the first 3 movies, we mainly saw jedi slicing through droids and not killing beings

    • @fabuluspotato9815
      @fabuluspotato9815 3 роки тому +9

      @@243Abolerz Jedi maybe, but clones no. Remember the arc dealing with peace negotiations and Mina Bonteri? According to Bonteri, clones attacked and killed her husband and others.

    • @samhwang7748
      @samhwang7748 3 роки тому +10

      The Bad Batch: stun, stun, stun. OMG, I don't know if this is Disney's doing with the writing, but they have to get those blasters for the Bad Batch off of stun. I mean, the people who really want to watch the show already saw countless deaths from a variety of means in TCW.

  • @kimjongun2536
    @kimjongun2536 5 років тому +153

    Clone wars just had so much grit, like 501st killing 212th, favorite characters constantly getting killed, showing effects the war has on different characters like anikan or the clones getting more serious and morbib throughout the seasons. They added personality to the clones who in the movies minus Cody had none or didn't display it, it showed how they were all the same but different and made order 66 more heartbreaking or made it more understandable It wasn't even stupid violent or gorey. Just the way it was portrayed and written really just expressed what the clone wars and war were like

  • @somanypedals
    @somanypedals 5 років тому +363

    Geestlys: They weren’t afraid to have risks
    Also Geestlys: Shows image of jar jar
    Me: Oh yeah, it’s all coming together

    • @eliaspeter7689
      @eliaspeter7689 5 років тому +19

      Poor Jar Jar, everyone hates him.

    • @strongforce8466
      @strongforce8466 4 роки тому +15

      @@eliaspeter7689 that episode with jar jar as main character in clone wars was hilarious

    • @Stinger913
      @Stinger913 4 роки тому +3

      Eduard BlaBla giving Palpatine emergency powers was all part of his master plan

  • @Wunked
    @Wunked 4 роки тому +656

    Rebels got even more crushed after this last season of clone wars

    • @iheartmoms07
      @iheartmoms07 4 роки тому +12

      @Wunked the only thing from Rebels that stands up to TCW best arcs is Malachor season 2 finale IMO and a few other great episodes

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain 4 роки тому +55

      the best rebels arcs/characters all have to do with TCW characters imo

    • @iheartmoms07
      @iheartmoms07 4 роки тому +2

      @Shaiyan Hossain yea pretty much some of the thrawn and finales were good episodes tho

    • @1--y
      @1--y 4 роки тому +34

      @@iheartmoms07 in conclusion rebels sucks and clone wars is amazing

    • @iheartmoms07
      @iheartmoms07 4 роки тому +4

      @M3 GTR nah Rebels doesn’t suck it’s actually pretty good clone wars is better

  • @someguyparagon5273
    @someguyparagon5273 5 років тому +219

    Start wars rebels: attempts to be family friendly
    Is a show about terrorism
    Also rebels: *Muders hundreds of Stormtroopers who for sometimes is voice by Steve blum*

    • @5h0rgunn45
      @5h0rgunn45 4 роки тому +30

      Actually, one of the things that annoys me is how inconsistently they kill or don't kill people. Lots of times, you'll see stormtroopers who got shot in the chest are still moving, clearly alive. For a while, Ezra only uses a stun pistol. Most of the time, they prefer to knock troopers out rather than killing them. I don't think Kanan or Ezra ever kill or dismember anyone with their lightsabers.
      But anyone with a face is off limits (most of the time). For some reason, Sabine can't find it in herself to kill Gar Saxon, despite the obvious threat he poses, and despite their having already killed several Imperial Mandalorians in that episode (although it was actually other Mandalorians who killed them in that instance, but the rebels didn't complain about it). There are lots of times when they blow up whole ships or facilities with lots of people in them. Sometimes, they stun people and then leave them on a ship to be blown up.
      I just can't figure out whether these rebels actually have a problem with killing people or not.

    • @afonsosampaio765
      @afonsosampaio765 4 роки тому +6

      @Vlavitir glutginskiya Its only terrorism if you loose.

    • @cristimaistor557
      @cristimaistor557 4 роки тому +3

      @@5h0rgunn45 yeah like in the first episode in season 3 (I think) they were going to steal some y wings on a station that was destroying them, and Ezra shuts down the power in order to unlock the y wings, but that causes the whole station to go boom, he gets out, but the thing is he stunned 2 stormtroopers in the control room and you can even see them still stunned as he leaves, so those dudes are dead lol, unlike other people in the station that you could say had a chance to get out

    • @meowmeowmeow594
      @meowmeowmeow594 4 роки тому +3

      @@5h0rgunn45 The stormtrooper armour is apparently extremely good, so even though a blaster might dump a lot of energy into the target, the victim of the shot might be down because the shot didn't actually kill them; the armour did it's job, but the sheer force behind the bolt knocked them down.

    • @5h0rgunn45
      @5h0rgunn45 4 роки тому

      @@meowmeowmeow594
      That's what I'm told. I'm just not sure I believe it.

  • @CoolMyron
    @CoolMyron 5 років тому +552

    A star wars movie called Clones, would be cool.

    • @metsfan7376
      @metsfan7376 5 років тому +45

      Just watch the Umbara arc and you should be fine

    • @kilokilo9034
      @kilokilo9034 5 років тому +38

      Mets Fan 501st journal movie would be sick, like the scenes from the original battlefront 2 made into a movie

    • @brandinorich
      @brandinorich 5 років тому +32

      @@kilokilo9034 Duuuuuddeeeeeeee a movie called the 501st journal would be fuckin dope

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 5 років тому +25

      Star Wars:
      Journal of the 501st.

    • @brandinorich
      @brandinorich 5 років тому +6

      @@akumaking1 WAY BETTER NAME

  • @arzantyt2055
    @arzantyt2055 4 роки тому +261

    What kids think when see death in show: Hmh, he died
    What Disney thinks kids think when see death in show: How to join Al Qaeda ?

    • @thecommander1668
      @thecommander1668 3 роки тому +24

      99 likes
      You remember 99 the clone
      He was a clone hero
      I cried when he died

    • @Nemo-Nihil
      @Nemo-Nihil 2 роки тому +4

      Dude look at the Lion King. Scar got eaten by the hyenas at the end. The rating for that movie is G. And you saw Mufasa's dead body and little Simba snuggle up against it.
      Again. The movie is rated G.

    • @Nemo-Nihil
      @Nemo-Nihil 2 роки тому +3

      @@thecommander1668 I was heartbroken when he died too.
      Which I think is a brilliance of Clone Wars. A lot of people treat the clones like organic droids. Whereas the Jedi see the clones as living beings with their own personalities and desires. They aren't just numbers. They have names. They are more than just beings bred for war.

  • @DayDreamer10251
    @DayDreamer10251 5 років тому +185

    I also like to mention that in clone wars the villains were capable of doing their job.
    Kalani is a good example. Yes he lost the war but we still see him as a competent, scarey and likable character. The things he does go hand to hand on what he is a Super Tactical Droid smart, cold, ruthless and loyal to Doku.
    There are many videos about the villains in clone wars meanwhile all I found on Rebels villains was Thrawn(Vader doesn't count with his little screentime). Guess many people agree that the villains in Rebels aren't great or likeable?
    Not to mention the battle droids they are comic relief but when it came to it they did their job and they did it as good as they could.

    • @facemanmc6364
      @facemanmc6364 5 років тому +19

      I think you are right, but I want to add, that Grievous in Clone Wars was (in my opinion) also meant to deliver comical relieve,
      there is this Star Wars Cartoon from 2000 and something where Grievous is finally shown how he was meant to be
      feared, competent and able to match a bunch of Jedi masters + padawans.

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 5 років тому +18

      @@facemanmc6364 there's some theories that the original Clone Wars cartoon was an in-universe propoganda film series.

    • @z-man1237
      @z-man1237 4 роки тому

      Well said

    • @viperstriker4728
      @viperstriker4728 4 роки тому +3

      DayDreamer- What about LT-319 in rebels, he was good in that one episode then never seen again.
      Faceman MC- I agree but there are a few episodes where they show Grievous well, lair of grievous and Grievous Intrigue. When they catch him off guard and he tears through the clones with his bare hands.

    • @DMisigoy
      @DMisigoy 4 роки тому

      Vader & Thrawn in Rebels were better than any of the villains in Clone Wars. No contest.

  • @solisprime2669
    @solisprime2669 5 років тому +1352

    The Clone wars animation was way better.

    • @too-simpy6596
      @too-simpy6596 5 років тому +86

      Yeah I dont like the thin lightsabers

    • @henryhammarberg6070
      @henryhammarberg6070 5 років тому +56

      Rebels was more based on Ralph Mcquarrie's concept art, which is why the lightsabers are thinner, the stormtrooper masks look so strange and people's faces are more slanted

    • @aleksander002
      @aleksander002 5 років тому +21

      Yeah, that's because The Clone Wars was motion captured which ended up being too expensive to use for them so Rebels are 100% CGI.

    • @aturefrati7407
      @aturefrati7407 5 років тому +31

      Magmar Mobile yeah but that only sounds good in theory. In animation it looked weird and unnatural and much more artificial than clone wars

    • @ilikepigeons6101
      @ilikepigeons6101 5 років тому +4

      The animation in rebels was much better.
      Everyone moved is realistically. The only problem I have with it is that everyone has to move their head a lot every time they spoke

  • @troyhilario2770
    @troyhilario2770 4 роки тому +200

    Clone Wars had Long arks , Serious moments and brings back and introduces characters that are important and have a Backstory, General Grievous , Ashoka , Younglings, Captain Rex ,Ventress , Sav-age Opress and the Sith Lord, Maul. Rebels had one shots of minor stories and the only best parts of rebels was with Clone Wars characters. Also Ezra is if Anakin only complained and had 5% of his power.

    • @therealslimbandet
      @therealslimbandet 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed I watched both of these fully and I enjoyed them both but Star Wars rebels had a lot less effort in the context

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому +3

      *had long arcs, serious
      *brought back and introduced (to keep verb tense consistent with "had")
      *characters that were important and had (again, to keep verb tense consistent)
      *backstory: General
      Put spaces after commas and not before them.
      *Savage
      *best parts of Rebels were (because "parts" is plural)
      *Also, Ezra is like if Anakin

    • @loboy644
      @loboy644 3 роки тому +6

      When you have no evidence for an argument you start pointing out grammatical errors. A cowards move.

    • @magnusmaersk8219
      @magnusmaersk8219 3 роки тому

      I like that you have to bring op there power either Way Disagree

    • @basilisk7201
      @basilisk7201 3 роки тому

      Maul isn't a Sith Lord

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 5 років тому +1492

    The Clone Wars was so much better because the Senate was more involved.

    • @samwatson-tayler2805
      @samwatson-tayler2805 5 років тому +134

      I don't know if you mean the senate as in all the politicians from various planets, or the senate as in Palpatine, but I agree either way.

    • @too-simpy6596
      @too-simpy6596 5 років тому +63

      @@samwatson-tayler2805 That's the point sergeant

    • @ronramen5827
      @ronramen5827 5 років тому +23

      It’s treason, then.

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 5 років тому +21

      The Senate was in 2 Episodes of Rebels! Not enough to satisfy the need for Sheev.

    • @peris_arts_film9699
      @peris_arts_film9699 5 років тому +1

      Torik Jast yeah palpatine was more involved

  • @keegans.3939
    @keegans.3939 4 роки тому +304

    I liked the storyline a lot but what really bugged me was that they wouldn’t “kill” they’d just force push the stormtroopers

    • @theccarbiter
      @theccarbiter 4 роки тому +22

      They killed quite bit, like I remember the first scene of season 3 is ezra straight up shooting a stormtrooper for the first time with an actual blaster, not a stun gun. The inquisitor also decapitates those imperial officers in season one. I agree they do force push them away a bit too much for my liking though.

    • @mikagrof9243
      @mikagrof9243 4 роки тому +28

      @@theccarbiter lets say 90% of the stormtroopers where either pushed away or just got knocked out by pushing their heads together

    • @theccarbiter
      @theccarbiter 4 роки тому +18

      @@mikagrof9243 Yeah it got really annoying how they'd get knocked out with the drop of a hat

    • @mikagrof9243
      @mikagrof9243 4 роки тому +16

      @@theccarbiter not only that but what annoyed me more was how like kanan has a lightsaber put only seems to use it to block blaster bolts ezra has a lightsaber and does the same thing and basicly the only way they take out enemys is by pushing them 1 meter away and then all out of a sudden they are knocked out for the rest of their mission

    • @theccarbiter
      @theccarbiter 4 роки тому +9

      MikaGrof yeah they really make the empire seem like incompetent idiots that don’t have any imposing feel about them

  • @ethanmaranto8063
    @ethanmaranto8063 4 роки тому +178

    I feel like Rebels could have expanded the theme of Rogue One where the rebels had a darker side to them and there were many gray areas. I would have also liked to see more of Saw’s renegades.

    • @alexturlais8558
      @alexturlais8558 4 роки тому

      It's a kids show, they never would have been allowed to make it like that.

    • @ethanmaranto8063
      @ethanmaranto8063 4 роки тому +12

      I know, but there are some dark parts already. The Clone Wars was also a “kids show.”

    • @dr.boring7022
      @dr.boring7022 2 роки тому +2

      I felt like they were alluding to how Saw got his injuries, but decided not to do it because it would be too dark.

    • @Goldenkitten1
      @Goldenkitten1 2 роки тому +1

      This whole video basically says "Cuz Disney no dark or expansive". Disney has let Star Wars get dark outside the core series. I didn't particularly enjoy Rogue One but nobody can deny they didn't let the writers show the dark side of what until then had been widely portrayed as the pure white knight good guys. Then of course we got The Mandalorian and even more recently The Book of Boba Fett. Sure there are some Disney moments in all of them but there's no denying Disney is more than willing to let things get dark.
      I think what people forget is all of these weren't just made by "Disney", they were made by very separate writers and production teams and those in charge might as well be as different from one another as to be from different companies altogether. That said I think Rebels was ALWAYS intended to be a young kids show and Clone Wars fans just got mad they didn't get more of what they loved. Plus they've connected several of the series now, I suppose you could argue Disney "learned their lesson" but I'd suggest the above is more likely

    • @darthnicholas8528
      @darthnicholas8528 8 місяців тому

      That’s Andor in a nutshell.

  • @StupidMarioBros1Fan
    @StupidMarioBros1Fan 4 роки тому +116

    The biggest problem with Rebels is that is was aired on Disney's tv channels which typically do not have dark or mature themes in them. Most of the problems with Rebels can be traced back to having to be aimed at a younger audience than The Clone Wars as well as having a smaller budget for some strange reason considering it's Disney. The animation which is the most obvious issue had to be changed to account for the smaller budget, and then the story was never allowed to go as far as TCS did because it would go into teen or adult level content.
    Maul's death is the greatest example because the lack of any visible damage undermines the whole scene which was brilliantly designed with callbacks & is an amazing character moment. Maul looks like he gives up after his lightsaber is cut in half and makes the viewer think "Wait what just happened?" Instead of piecing together how Obi-Wan baited Maul into doing the same move that killed Qui-Gon.
    Had the show been allowed to go darker or was made today for Disney+, it could've been a way better show that may have been on par or possibly even better than TCS. However as for what we got, The Clone Wars is a great show to watch in full while Rebels is a great show to watch in clips.

    • @coolcatttttt8
      @coolcatttttt8 4 роки тому +7

      StupidMarioBros1Fan agreed

    • @randalljr17
      @randalljr17 4 роки тому +5

      I’m sorry but there is no way it would ever be better than the Clone Wars. The main issues for me were most of the character, lack of consistent serious tone, and story-telling. You fix those and it’s maybe on the same level as the Clone Wars. Still a pretty small era to throw it up against the clone wars.

    • @alexturlais8558
      @alexturlais8558 4 роки тому

      That's not necessarily a problem, that its aimed at kids.

    • @mercenaryknight5419
      @mercenaryknight5419 4 роки тому +1

      @@alexturlais8558 But it took that a step too far in many cases.

    • @myself387
      @myself387 4 роки тому +1

      I disagree with one thing you said. For me, the clone wars is way better, but it's fine to watch clips, and if I understand what you meant, which I'm not sure about, if I was watching them, I would probably choose to watch the clone wars out of the correct order, whereas in rebels, it is a continuous story. The stories aren't as good, and there are other problems, but I wouldn't watch it out of order. I would skip some episodes, expecially the first season, but I would watch them in order

  • @Sorrin7274
    @Sorrin7274 4 роки тому +275

    Hera: normal person
    Sabine: D&D character
    Zeb: annoying hairless wookie
    Ezra: annoying space aladin
    Kanan: underused

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому +12

      *Aladdin

    • @AndyWGaming
      @AndyWGaming 3 роки тому +30

      ngl i like Sabine and Kanan.
      also you forgot chopper so
      chopper: Discount R2D2 Rip off

    • @raafeyplayz7015
      @raafeyplayz7015 3 роки тому +15

      I like Kanan and Hera. If only the series was about them.

    • @Pizz6787
      @Pizz6787 3 роки тому +10

      I’m sorry but zeb is nowhere close to the comic relief at least in my opinion, in his scenes I never laughed but that doesn’t mean no one laughed, so in my opinion zeb is annoying

    • @robertocaetano4945
      @robertocaetano4945 3 роки тому +16

      Kanan + Hera = good show
      Kanan + Hera + Ezra + Sabine + Zebb = shitty show

  • @crupt7301
    @crupt7301 4 роки тому +447

    Me just chilling
    Geetslys: RAID SHADOW LEGENDS
    That games just a meme at this point
    Edit: holy shit my first big comment!

    • @krysc3278
      @krysc3278 4 роки тому +12

      Yep, most likely

    • @twandepan
      @twandepan 4 роки тому +19

      the funny thing is the Raid devs claim they never sponsor anyone and the influencers promote them for free

    • @rowanreid836
      @rowanreid836 4 роки тому +1

      i can't think of a single good youtube channel that they haven't sponsored yet.

    • @maestrofeli4259
      @maestrofeli4259 4 роки тому +2

      @@rowanreid836 there was one but I forgot their name right now. They talked about how he was going to accept and sponsor them, but when he realized the trashy script they gave him (the script every youtuber has to follow when making a raid shadow legends ad) and saw how bad the game is, he refused. I think the youtuber was "Act Man" but I might be wrong. Anyways bye, have a beautiful time!

    • @roadhouse6999
      @roadhouse6999 3 роки тому +1

      our boy gotta eat

  • @Zoroark_Master
    @Zoroark_Master 5 років тому +265

    CW is my favourite cartoon of all time
    But I would say rebels is enjoyable
    (Better then resistance, that’s for sure)

    • @ilikepigeons6101
      @ilikepigeons6101 5 років тому +3

      Resistance is good, it's not as bad as people think

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 5 років тому +12

      Same.
      The Clone Wars was great.
      Rebels is acceptable.
      Resistance is meh.

    • @13crystals61
      @13crystals61 5 років тому

      What's resistance? Is that an animated series set during the sequels?

    • @13crystals61
      @13crystals61 5 років тому

      @Glenn Merkle Wow, didn't think they'd make one.

    • @MoldyOog
      @MoldyOog 5 років тому

      @@ilikepigeons6101 It doesn't feel like Star Wars though. It feels like well...a Disney XD cartoon that has an art style that's so bad it could cause seizures.

  • @ImperialHell172
    @ImperialHell172 5 років тому +556

    And that’s why I hate Disney, they care too much about their “image” they don’t let their movies, shows, writers etc to take risks and their movies get boring and bland

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 5 років тому +45

      And heavily unimaginative, unimpressive or even decent. To this day... like Rogue One is about the only thing SW Disney I hear consistently good things about

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 5 років тому +8

      Connor Griffiths I don’t really think it was all, or even mostly Disney. You can still make a good series without excessive violence. I’m not against violence in story telling, but it’s just one means of presenting drama out many others. A lot of the fighting and stuff is rebels is bland, yes, but the thing that annoyed me was the poor and stunted storytelling.
      For example the lack of capitalizing on the drama of Captain Rex and clones in general, Ezra’s wishy washy character, the repetition of plot points, the writing, and the lack of stakes.

    • @jackbartholomaus6510
      @jackbartholomaus6510 5 років тому +7

      Indeed, I hate star wars rebels because it is too kid friendly, it barely had Darth Vader, and they were slow to add episodes

    • @TheDawnofVanlife
      @TheDawnofVanlife 4 роки тому +5

      And on the flip side. They gave Rian Johson too much creative freedom in movie land. Can't get it right Disney.

    • @jackbartholomaus6510
      @jackbartholomaus6510 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDawnofVanlife Who does he play?

  • @roguewolf8545
    @roguewolf8545 4 роки тому +493

    I don’t think rebels was a bad show, but the clone wars dwarfs it entirely in terms of entertainment and storytelling ability.

    • @mcsmedia8081
      @mcsmedia8081 4 роки тому +23

      I second that. I liked Rebels too, but they cut it way too short when they ended it with the third season. The third season was finally willing to actually explore real tragedy and then it ended. The show had it's moments for sure; like the tale Sabine told when training with the darksaber. I wish it had more of those moments and embraced a more Empire Strikes Back, Battle of Hoth tone.

    • @brafshsyt
      @brafshsyt 4 роки тому +3

      I agree ,I feel like if they had just changed the rating to PG it would have made a story telling difference and fix the animation

    • @theccarbiter
      @theccarbiter 4 роки тому +4

      @@mcsmedia8081 Aren't there 4 seasons? Or are you saying that season 4 isnt worth watching?

    • @mcsmedia8081
      @mcsmedia8081 4 роки тому +3

      @@theccarbiter I might gotten the number of seasons wrong. I thought there were only three altogether 0.0

    • @theccarbiter
      @theccarbiter 4 роки тому +2

      @@mcsmedia8081 Yeah there's 4 seasons

  • @samwatson-tayler2805
    @samwatson-tayler2805 5 років тому +193

    I think the saddest part is that Rebels really does have its good moments, but they're all tied to the clone wars. All the best parts of it that people name, Rex coming back and being retconned onto Endor, Ahsoka vs Darth Vader and Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul, all of them are just loose ends from the clone wars being tied up. It's almost like the writers didn't even want to be in the original trilogy, they just wanted to get back to the prequels.

    • @DMisigoy
      @DMisigoy 4 роки тому +8

      Sam Watson-Tayler - everything with Thrawn, Bendu, Ezra dabbling in the Dark Side and ultimately growing into a leader was great stuff that didn’t derive from the Clone Wars series.
      They also delivered arguably the best version of Vader (as Clone Wars gave us the best version of Anakin), and the fight with Ahsoka was just a natural and necessary part of it. But even aside from the duel with Ahsoka, everything with Vader in Rebels was top notch.

    • @samwatson-tayler2805
      @samwatson-tayler2805 4 роки тому +3

      @@DMisigoy That's fair enough, in my defense I eventually stopped watching because it wasn't for me.

    • @Ky-Nas
      @Ky-Nas 4 роки тому +2

      @@DMisigoy To be fair, Thrawn was pulled from the comics that already existed up to that point, and from what I've heard, was pretty watered down as well.

    • @Ky-Nas
      @Ky-Nas 4 роки тому +1

      @@samwatson-tayler2805 and to be fair, it was those carry over moments from the Clone Wars that got me to give this show a second chance in the first place.

    • @Ky-Nas
      @Ky-Nas 4 роки тому +1

      @@samwatson-tayler2805 I would recommend giving the show another shot.
      It's not bad by any means, and I do feel that there's plenty you'd enjoy in the later seasons.
      If you have Disney+ already, it's there on their line-up, so I don't see a reason to not give it a go.
      I decided it wasn't of interest to me the first time I started watching it too, but I gave it a second chance recently, and despite some minor gripes here and there, I've really been enjoying it.

  • @Nate-mq4rh
    @Nate-mq4rh 5 років тому +170

    funny bc legends clone wars comics and novels were even darker than canon clone wars

    • @Nate-mq4rh
      @Nate-mq4rh 5 років тому +4

      @Lionard Kirsch I definitely think tcw has some of the best moments in star wars history and it's without a doubt the best tv series in the franchise (until the mandalorian and kenobi surpass it) but I also think it's extremely overrated and has a great deal of flaws that no one points out or likes to talk about.

    • @Nate-mq4rh
      @Nate-mq4rh 5 років тому +3

      @Lionard Kirsch I just have high hopes for it. And yes, I agree originals have many flaws

    • @homersams9015
      @homersams9015 4 роки тому +1

      Lionard Kirsch the mandalorian has already surpassed tcw

  • @bluenight104
    @bluenight104 4 роки тому +131

    My problem with rebels is that it didn’t take itself seriously. There were few meaningful characters outside the main group, few grand space battles, no spectacle ground battles, no meaningful or impactful deaths. It was too sanitized, too childish and didn’t demonstrate the horror of the empire. As Geetsly said, clone wars allowed itself to explore concepts rebels wouldn’t dare touch.

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD 4 роки тому +19

      The amount of time the rebels won with no real price was just cringe to watch, the Empire was a push over, even Thrawn was, yes he talked a good game but in the end he was always beaten by the rebels anyway.

    • @yosemiteyosemi488
      @yosemiteyosemi488 4 роки тому +12

      @@RomanHistoryFan476AD Your so right. It was actually painful to watch them succeed so many times with out losses. Sure, they won a few times with casualties, but they were minimal. That's one of the main reasons me and quite a few other fans of the show just completely stopped watching it after season 2. It had potential, but it fell flat on it's ass because of this reason and many others.

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD 4 роки тому +4

      @@yosemiteyosemi488 thank god you did not see season three or four then, the show goes even worse in this direction even Thrawn is not spared from Imperial stupidity an failure, he sounds impressive and makes great speeches but he also never succeeds.
      I will be honest here when Vader turned up the ghost crew should have been dead, if things where realistic.

    • @yosemiteyosemi488
      @yosemiteyosemi488 4 роки тому +5

      @@RomanHistoryFan476AD well that's the thing, is that i did see some of 4... I truly and deeply am disappointed by it. The show ruined Maul, Thrawn, and Vader. I mean... WTAF???? IT'S THRAWN!!! There's no WAY he's that naive and stupid. Sure he's a little arrogant at times, but not RETARDED! And Vader.. My GOD Vader! He wasn't even fully dark for Christ sake! He was just all *oooh look I'm just gonna swing my light saber at you for a couple of minutes*(except for that scene with Ashoka and Vader... that was kinda cool... a little) Every time I saw those three, I just was sickened. Oh but the big grand shitshake with a cherry on top, the evil scheme of all things I hated the most out of the show...was Ezra. I fucking hate Ezra. The entire show he's just like *Whats this? Whats that? Whats this? Whats that? Whats this? Whats that? *. He was like that at first, and I even thought he was just that momentarily like Ashoka (when she acted that way as a kid) But NOPE! 4 shit seasons of having to deal with this annoying little bastard that inserts him into every fucking thing. Oh and the worst part about it is that Ezra even "ages" throughout the series and shows absolutely NO signs of maturity what so ever. Same with Sabine ( which I believe the way they BOTH act, Darth Jar Jar may or may not have force inserted his sperm into two females... those being Sabine and Ezra's moms [Duh]). Anyways, sorry to puke that all out on to you.

    • @michaelcornelius3641
      @michaelcornelius3641 4 роки тому

      @@yosemiteyosemi488 my name is ezra

  • @forevertired0
    @forevertired0 5 років тому +335

    They didn't try as hard as they did with clone wars

    • @caderen5624
      @caderen5624 5 років тому +15

      They did try, they did whatever they could to make a good show and still make something disney approves, but disney held them back, many people like the clone wars because no one could hold them back, they were free to do whatevs, rebels had the potential to be better than the clone wars but disney held them back from doing so

    • @brandonvortex995
      @brandonvortex995 5 років тому +1

      Cel Confitech oh come on Disney allowed violence in pirates of the Caribbean but not clone wars

    • @forevertired0
      @forevertired0 5 років тому +1

      @Lionard Kirsch I know but it was still written by the same people

    • @jamesporter571
      @jamesporter571 5 років тому

      @@brandonvortex995 well you gotta remember that Pirates was pg-13, Rebels is like Y-7

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 5 років тому +1

      Ryan Orth yah, but again, you can’t lay it completely on Disney. There are plenty of shows, even by Disney themselves that don’t need ultra violence to make a good story. Gravity falls for example. I think it partially has to do with the creative team not experimenting with what they could do in their restrictions. A big problem with Rebels is its repetition.
      The gang has to sneak in or do something against the empire, the plan falls apart, but in the end it all succeeds. Similarly a lot of characters have a messy story line, and there is little setting development outside the main crew.
      Most of these things I do not think are a direct result of Disney, but of a failure on the staffs part to make good with what they had. None of the above things require extra violence, just a better script.

  • @irishvader2193
    @irishvader2193 4 роки тому +117

    The clones in clone wars were treated like formidable troopers, the empire in rebels were treated like bumbling idiots.

    • @ArielKahane
      @ArielKahane 2 роки тому +4

      I can’t like this comment. You have 69 likes

    • @kevinzhang6623
      @kevinzhang6623 10 місяців тому

      Because they're stormtroopers, dumbass.

  • @taylorwickham
    @taylorwickham 3 роки тому +87

    In Clone Wars, every time a clone was killed, I felt it. In Rebels, main characters couldn't die because plot armor.

    • @henrypeters5291
      @henrypeters5291 Рік тому +2

      Kanan: *Am I a joke to you?*

    • @PennesinoTheGreat
      @PennesinoTheGreat Рік тому +1

      Kanan litterally died, and it was very sad.

    • @CollinRezac
      @CollinRezac Рік тому +3

      Fives, Jesse, Tup, Waxer, Boil, Echo, 99, Heavy, Hardcase, and so many more. All of rebels main character deaths are offscreen. Heavy, Hardcase, amd Jesse despite not seeing them die(because they all died in explosions they were still emotional as flip dude. I cried when Jesse and Hardcase died those 3 sacrificed themselves for their brothers and were some of my favorite characters. All the stormtroopers don't count btw those are faceless characters.
      Edit: There was also a couple during the assault on Kamino and on the Ryloth ark, but I don't remember their names

  • @slashinswingin4369
    @slashinswingin4369 5 років тому +186

    Someone: Clone Wars Season 1 is so childish.
    Me: *Trespass. The Hidden enemy.*
    I could go on.

  • @xdj2a2
    @xdj2a2 5 років тому +160

    Disney:you like being boxed in with a lot of restrictions and PG.
    Rebels writers:oh god no.🙄
    Clone wars: SCREW THAT WE'RE GOING DARK all the way. (Season 7 hype)

    • @zerorider5233
      @zerorider5233 5 років тому +8

      HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @too-simpy6596
      @too-simpy6596 5 років тому +18

      I really hope season seven isn't just PG clone wars because that would suck

    • @xdj2a2
      @xdj2a2 5 років тому +2

      @@too-simpy6596 I agree.

    • @klidthelid8361
      @klidthelid8361 5 років тому +8

      I’m really afraid for season 7 because of rebels. I didn’t know they had that kinda stuff in them, that Disney would force them into that. I just think that times have changed now and I’m worried that season 7 will mirror rebels.

    • @MackeyBigBoy4014
      @MackeyBigBoy4014 5 років тому +10

      Klidthelid The Clone Was Season Seven was written before Rebels, like the Bad Batch arc.

  • @AshCreeper
    @AshCreeper 4 роки тому +80

    I wonder how rebels could have turned out if the writers were given the same creative freedom as they were given in the clone wars.

    • @skinflutey
      @skinflutey 4 роки тому +8

      If they were given the same creative freedom as Clone Wars, Rebels probably wouldn’t have been cancelled.

    • @theyigo9362
      @theyigo9362 3 роки тому +8

      @@skinflutey the reason clone wars was cancelled was because disney took over and clone wars was airing on cartoon network

    • @skinflutey
      @skinflutey 3 роки тому +2

      @@theyigo9362 thank you for the response. I need to edit my previous comment.

    • @russianboogeyman544
      @russianboogeyman544 Рік тому

      I hope they will bring Galen Marek back. Man... he was the true founder and leader of the rebellion.

    • @hellothere-bx8cf
      @hellothere-bx8cf Рік тому

      ​@@russianboogeyman544how are they gonna do that thou? It doesn't fit the Canon or does it? When do those games take place legends timeline?

  • @darkgamer7379
    @darkgamer7379 5 років тому +298

    Clone wars also had ten time better animation

    • @Fi_Sci_
      @Fi_Sci_ 5 років тому +14

      Dark Gamer mostly due to the fact it had George Lucas’s Funding in its pocket, Rebels had no such funding therefore the animation wasn’t as timeless and quite cheap in comparison-well not as cheap as resistance but still cheap.

    • @Fi_Sci_
      @Fi_Sci_ 5 років тому +9

      ANTHONY THOMAS Your opinion is noteworthy, but realistic animation wasn’t the goal of Clone wars.
      It’s goal was to entertain and tell a captivating story of a galaxy wide war. The animation despite not looking “Realistic” expresses the actions and thoughts of the characters much more clearly, adding on also having fluid movement and iconic lightsaber duels.
      Rebels had this to some extent as well but was held back by the macquarrie art style that would’ve been better suited to a 2D format and would’ve avoided the poor animation Quality.

    • @justinbebsmus121
      @justinbebsmus121 5 років тому +4

      Sorry but Clone Wars used to look like a bad PS2 game. Rebels choose to have a specific animation style. It's objectively better than Clone Wars.

    • @Ghost_-_
      @Ghost_-_ 4 роки тому +3

      @@justinbebsmus121 no I disagree with u I think the clone wars graphics were actually good the graphics weren't that bad it was very good for a year like 2014 I forgot the release date but it think it's 2008 but I think it was good for a animation from years ago

    • @tofuteh2348
      @tofuteh2348 4 роки тому +3

      Lets not act like the first season looked good

  • @forsakenvipoerx9077
    @forsakenvipoerx9077 5 років тому +66

    I liked it when Ezra started experimenting in the dark side.
    Then they just kind of pretended those episodes never happened.
    Why would a kid who just saw he could be way more powerful just be like, everyone says my new powers are bad even though i can easily fight our enemies now. (Yeets holocron off cliff.) don't need it.

    • @5h0rgunn45
      @5h0rgunn45 4 роки тому +12

      That's the main problem with Rebels in my opinion. They have lots of good ideas, but none of them are ever fully developed. Heroes of Mandalore? Good idea, never fully developed. Ezra flirting with the dark side? Good idea, never fully developed. Zeb one of the few survivors of a genocide? Good idea, never fully developed. An imperial officer thinking back to the things he's done for the Empire and having second thoughts? Good idea, never fully developed.

  • @acairconditioning5666
    @acairconditioning5666 4 роки тому +30

    The best parts of the show didn’t include the main characters, but the characters from the clone wars and the oringinal trilogy. Like Rex and the old clones, as well as Hondo and Ashoka

    • @empirestate8791
      @empirestate8791 2 роки тому

      I couldn't get enough of Hondo. That guy was absolutely hilarious. Reminded me of the original trilogy, with over-the-top, humorous characters like Han Solo.

  • @0hvist
    @0hvist 5 років тому +33

    It also has to do with how "Cookie-Cutter" most of the main characters were in that they take only one surface level trait from the Original Trilogy Cast: "Sarcastic Funny Droid", "Big Surly Alien", "Jedi Mentor", "Pilot", and "Main Character" as all part of "The Crew". The show could have easily benefited from less focus put on one singular group that seemingly is able to get all of the shit needed to start the Rebellion done done, I would have loved it instead that the story was told like _The Clone Wars_ was as an Anthology: where we can shift our attention and divide it between multiple groups of people all doing different things at the same time, and on occasion interact with other groups sometime later.

    • @ralphmasucci9005
      @ralphmasucci9005 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly! The empire isn't intimidating. The ghost crew could seemingly destroy the empire if they wanted too.

  • @ironindustries9258
    @ironindustries9258 5 років тому +92

    The only times I liked rebels is when old characters returned like maul,ahsoka,obi-wan,vader,Rex etc the new characters for the most part where really bland especially Ezra

    • @biocaster777
      @biocaster777 5 років тому +7

      Save for Thrawn, and he's actually from Legends.

    • @leonsixt2744
      @leonsixt2744 5 років тому +2

      You really like how they showed Rex? Turning from the guy that is meant to lead, always to count on and savage turning into a fatass with beard? I literally lost it when I saw the rebels version of him first

    • @atomicnut1486
      @atomicnut1486 5 років тому +8

      It shows how Disney has to lean on older characters because they do not know how to make good characters.

    • @andreiaromanesei9270
      @andreiaromanesei9270 5 років тому +11

      @@leonsixt2744 at least we know rex was the old rebel guy in the battle of endor

    • @leonsixt2744
      @leonsixt2744 5 років тому +5

      OldMan Wayne I do know this of course but don’t even try arguing that he was interpreted good by Disney. He is like a complete other person there. I remember the moment my dad and I watched rebels (because we like to build our own opinion on things) and then they introduced Rex... My father couldn’t stop laughing and I couldnt even laugh I was just disappointed and sad.

  • @Nephalem2002
    @Nephalem2002 4 роки тому +270

    To Me:
    Clone Wars: Masterpiece
    Rebels: Pretty Alright Successor
    Resistance: Go home and die

    • @smigly6856
      @smigly6856 4 роки тому +29

      Akatsuki-Nate 9 I had a plan to watch all 3 of the series, when I got to resistance I watched 1 episode and was forced to turn it off

    • @Nephalem2002
      @Nephalem2002 4 роки тому +33

      MR SMIGLY Rebels had me a little concerned at the start, But the second they brought in the Inquistors, Then had Tarkin kill two people I went; Okay. This show is going to be worth it.

    • @felixstieger9039
      @felixstieger9039 4 роки тому +36

      Rebels started not so good. It got better over time. Resistance.... I don’t wanna talk about it.....

    • @dannychamberlain6244
      @dannychamberlain6244 3 роки тому +10

      Mandalorian: Show that is great on its own

    • @twilighthero9358
      @twilighthero9358 3 роки тому +1

      watched Resistance all the way through. It had a few decent-to-good episodes towards the end of each season, and right when it began getting even remotely good like Rebels S1, it ended.

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 5 років тому +632

    And yet Star Wars: Resistance is even worse...

    • @zeratul____1228
      @zeratul____1228 5 років тому +33

      @ANTHONY THOMAS That git cancelled ages ago

    • @slowman9794
      @slowman9794 5 років тому +59

      Jedi Spartan 38 we don’t say that name here

    • @ceilyurie856
      @ceilyurie856 5 років тому +51

      I watched "resistance" and it was all.. "meh". THe idea of a station capable of traveling in hyperspace as a ship is neat though. Means you would be able to build a generic station structure at a regular shipyard, and it could move itself to its destination. And most worlds suitable for human life have oceans...or it could be used as a regular space station. Some of the racing ships were neat...but notice how I have literally mentioned literally none of the main characters.

    • @vaid5306
      @vaid5306 5 років тому +7

      Star wars what??

    • @13crystals61
      @13crystals61 5 років тому +3

      @@vaid5306 My guess is a sequel cartoon

  • @cueball6969
    @cueball6969 4 роки тому +40

    Rebels isn't bad, and there were some moments I genuinely enjoyed...
    But clone wars is WAAAAY better imo

  • @isaac7343
    @isaac7343 3 роки тому +208

    Ezra ruined it for me. I found his personality annoying af, which impacted a lot of scenes such as the Darth Vader vs Ashoka scene and the whole Twin sun's episode. I also found him to be hypocritical and unnecessary in alot of episodes/adventures.

    • @XDogeGamingX
      @XDogeGamingX 3 роки тому +6

      I think he had his bad moments but overall imo he was really good

    • @angryt-rex6916
      @angryt-rex6916 3 роки тому +25

      Fucking thank you. Holy shit, I can’t stand him. I hate it when people say “He changes” or “He’s an amazing character” hell no. He’s by far my least favorite character, he annoys the absolute hell out of me. Rebels is way too overrated

    • @sshadowx1003
      @sshadowx1003 3 роки тому +6

      @@angryt-rex6916 It is not that deep bro that scene was like 2 seconds you’re going to be ok.

    • @deadreset
      @deadreset 3 роки тому +11

      @@angryt-rex6916 someone else! Thank you so much! Ezra is the most insufferable character to blight Star Wars. His existence cheapens everything! To me Ezra is the manifestation of Disney as a whole into an awkward character who is stuck in a universe he doesn't belong in.

    • @angryt-rex6916
      @angryt-rex6916 3 роки тому +4

      @@ryanconner6364 to you he’s an amazing character. But those people who actually realize that he’s still an annoying piece of shit know that he’s fucking worthless. Everyone hates Rey for the dumbest reasons, people hate Jar Jar, so why the fuck can’t I hate Ezra when he’s an annoying piece of shit that never gets any better or changes? Hmmmmmmmm

  • @darthfox45
    @darthfox45 5 років тому +147

    Star Wars: The Clone Wars was way more philosophical.

    • @jamessuhr4074
      @jamessuhr4074 4 роки тому +5

      Well, that tends to be how politics go in the end. What is right, what is wrong? What should you do or avoid doing, and why? For who? For what cause? What ends justify the means? Philosophy is an understanding of ones own values, politics is not too dissimilar. I kinda liked it though, it was all for the story. As geetsly said, politics was the core of the story, but I think the big difference from Clone wars and say...rebels or other movies, is that politics was the core of the story, but NOT it's intention, and I think that's an important difference.

    • @DMisigoy
      @DMisigoy 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, nothing more philosophical than Meebur Gascon riding around in droids for 5 episodes...people forget all the flaws when there’s something newer to criticize.

    • @jamessuhr4074
      @jamessuhr4074 4 роки тому +2

      @@DMisigoy Although that's true, note that we aren't saying it's perfect..

    • @mch1n118
      @mch1n118 4 роки тому +2

      @@DMisigoy cherry picking is so hot right now...

    • @DMisigoy
      @DMisigoy 4 роки тому +1

      James Suhr - nah, it’s just a video saying that Rebels sucks when it doesn’t. I love the Clone Wars series, but it had its flaws that everyone likes to forget that when attacking rebels for some reason. No one remembers the filler episodes or the arcs that went on for two or three episodes longer than they should have.

  • @Dylank001
    @Dylank001 4 роки тому +337

    I didn’t like it because of two reasons:
    1. No one died
    2. There are no arcs, no unique story to a set of characters, it’s just the same story

    • @BlargeMan
      @BlargeMan 4 роки тому +50

      Kanan died...

    • @Jb-ik3pq
      @Jb-ik3pq 4 роки тому +52

      Dylank001 1. Kanan, Gregor, Minester Puo and Commander Sato all died.
      2. That’s because it’s a different style. Most TV shows are just one story, so you can’t really call that a complaint.

    • @conamus8757
      @conamus8757 4 роки тому +20

      Number 3 toothpick lightsabers

    • @MikeRMProductions
      @MikeRMProductions 4 роки тому +7

      I counted and at least 25 people died in Rebels

    • @EtHan-so7rs
      @EtHan-so7rs 4 роки тому +17

      @@MikeRMProductions TCW: I counted and at least... oh i lost track after the first 3 seasons

  • @dcay5652
    @dcay5652 3 роки тому +22

    "Look we're clone, We're all clones."
    That scene still hits hard, And i love that.

    • @CollinRezac
      @CollinRezac Рік тому

      Amd when Rex first realizes too

  • @OlanKenny
    @OlanKenny 5 років тому +206

    I really enjoyed Rebels but Clone Wars was so much better

    • @legomasterboy1966
      @legomasterboy1966 5 років тому +11

      Agreed.

    • @toxdawn8246
      @toxdawn8246 5 років тому +6

      What exactly did you enjoy about Rebels? I think the show is for the most part awful, except a few arcs.

    • @OlanKenny
      @OlanKenny 5 років тому +15

      I think for the most part it was a good show, however it doesn't hold a candle to The Clone Wars which was a lot better.

    • @Obospeedo
      @Obospeedo 5 років тому +14

      I enjoyed rebels for how they showed the Jedi following order 66. I liked that Rex was brought into it and I also liked the tie in of the mortis gods, specifically the world between worlds episode. Don't get me wrong, clone wars is definitely my favorite, but rebels did a lot of good things too.

    • @barackbebop4174
      @barackbebop4174 5 років тому +5

      @@toxdawn8246 I liked rebels because many clone wars characters returned in rebels like ahsoka , rex , wollfe, Gregor, maul , bo katan , hondo, yularen, saw gerrera , chan syndulla, gobi ,numa
      The return of the darksaber
      Or the canon introduction of thrawn or what happened with the super tactical droid from kalani Onderon

  • @SourRobo8364
    @SourRobo8364 2 роки тому +11

    I always remember the episode Rookies from season 1. Heavy's death really stuck with me as a kid. One second we saw him alive and then he was just gone. Sacrificing himself to save everyone. It really opened my eyes on what it meant to serve in the military.
    Rebels never gave me that feeling. Even when a major character died.

    • @CollinRezac
      @CollinRezac Рік тому +2

      Yeah and Hardcase. Not to mention Jesse's turn and death with the rest of the Clones was I think the saddest part of the Clone Wars it really made cry

  • @MatthewOstergren
    @MatthewOstergren 4 роки тому +20

    Thank you for mentioning that Lucas has talked about how the Empire is supposed to be representative of the United States during the Vietnam War. That's something I often see left out of commentary. The added context adds in a lot more meaning and really helps deliver on one of Star Wars' core messages, anti-imperialism.

    • @facundopollacino7956
      @facundopollacino7956 7 місяців тому +1

      Y hoy en día se basan más en los Nazis y menos en Estados Unidos u otro país.

  • @scorch6297
    @scorch6297 5 років тому +220

    Why TCW is better than rebels in 5 words:
    HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND~

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 4 роки тому

      Is this a a Vulkan Text to speech device reference?
      Also Rex and Cody are my Favs

    • @disparatebroom7705
      @disparatebroom7705 4 роки тому

      marsel dagistani Heresy! remove this filth!

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 4 роки тому

      Lord Inquisitor @@disparatebroom7705 what seems to be the problem?

    • @disparatebroom7705
      @disparatebroom7705 4 роки тому

      marsel dagistani I initially thought that you were referring to like Vulcans from Star Trek, lol sorry if I misinterpreted, force of habit

    • @disparatebroom7705
      @disparatebroom7705 4 роки тому

      marsel dagistani also (halo wars 1 reference)

  • @darthirfan5581
    @darthirfan5581 5 років тому +496

    So this is how star wars dies
    With piles of cash over quality storytelling.

    • @cckiller0053
      @cckiller0053 5 років тому +2

      irfan ismail Which shows that nobody likes stories because that's where all that money comes from. People who don't like stories. It's not like you just make money by just creating something, then it would've failed. It makes me wonder what makes Rebels so popular over The Clone Wars. Money means success, so these cartoons were much more successful over the previous. It's just stating the obvious. To most the movies that make more are better and it's just a fact, but I'm not trying to attack or defend anyone, I'm just stating facts.

    • @goldenstatewarriors9418
      @goldenstatewarriors9418 4 роки тому +3

      @@cckiller0053 Lol did you even understand the joke/reference he was making.

    • @cckiller0053
      @cckiller0053 4 роки тому +2

      Golden State Warriors I did and he's saying that money means failure and tat people shouldn't give rich people the credit.

    • @cckiller0053
      @cckiller0053 4 роки тому +2

      Valcio DRG Oh

    • @dinogaming4419
      @dinogaming4419 4 роки тому +7

      irfan ismail This sentence is the epitome of the sequel trilogy.

  • @ontos8534
    @ontos8534 4 роки тому +21

    •Better storytelling
    •wasn't afraid to go dark when it was necessary
    •the art style was better with more texture and charm

  • @ShadowQuickpaw
    @ShadowQuickpaw 5 років тому +50

    “Disney’s shows-particularly those aimed at kids-never allowed the writers to think outside the box.”
    ‘Glares at Lion Guard’

    • @corbinjenkins9497
      @corbinjenkins9497 4 роки тому

      I dont get it

    • @ironfox4990
      @ironfox4990 4 роки тому +1

      Sees Gravity Falls too, maybe it’s more of Lucasfilm themselves then Disney.

  • @friend7485
    @friend7485 5 років тому +18

    The 4 part battle of Umbara had me crying as a kid but those 4 episodes were my favorites.

  • @Phazon8058MS
    @Phazon8058MS 4 роки тому +40

    This show takes place during an era where an oppressive totalitarian government reigns, powerful super soldiers hunt down survivors of a genocide that targeted an order of religious monks that some of our main characters are members of, and a brave few are trying to scrape together whatever they can to put up some meager resistance to the all-consuming Empire.
    Meanwhile Rebels is over here feeling like Scooby fucking Doo.

    • @MegaSoulHero
      @MegaSoulHero 2 роки тому +1

      Makes sense since the guy who voice Kanan was in the live action Scooby Doo movie.

    • @brinkgruffan8218
      @brinkgruffan8218 Рік тому

      You’re just fucking biased towards Clone Wats

    • @Mrs.Grave5433
      @Mrs.Grave5433 3 місяці тому +1

      Rebels feels like a kid's Clone Wars fanfiction.

    • @Mrs.Grave5433
      @Mrs.Grave5433 3 місяці тому +1

      Rebels feels like a kid's Clone Wars fanfiction.

  • @hoopsonwheels
    @hoopsonwheels 5 років тому +39

    The clone wars had a good mix of dark and light hearted moments. The dark scenes were handled with such care and it never felt like the show talked down to the audience.

  • @2ndairborneguy790
    @2ndairborneguy790 4 роки тому +18

    This show could've been amazing if it was just an anthology series. We would follow characters from the prequel trilogy on their independent paths, starting 5 years after the empire took over the galaxy. Whether it be Cody, and his life as a stormtrooper, or Obi-Wan, exploring his life on Tattooine. Soon, some of these characters paths would intertwine, and eventually it would build up to some finale, where all of our characters from the clone wars meet up in some climactic showdown, likely with most of them dying, and the others retiring

  • @Matt-zu2lu
    @Matt-zu2lu 4 роки тому +23

    The clone wars was also able to have story’s with different characters that we never seen before and so when a character was starting to feel old the writers would just go with different characters for the story

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому +2

      *stories
      story's = possessive (or a contraction of "story is")
      Apostrophes are for possession or contraction, not for pluralizing or random words that happen to end in "s."
      To pluralize a noun that ends in -y, drop the - and add -ies.
      *characters that we never saw before
      *old, the
      *for the story.

  • @stillcold
    @stillcold 4 роки тому +40

    reasons you left out that are important imo
    1. tcw felt alot more expansive exploring loads of planets, races, etc and it wasnt just about fighting the seperatists because they had loads of bounty hunter episodes, terrorist episodes,maul episodes, etc so it felt alot more refreshing and interesting im sorry but I cant be interested in lothal, stealing supplys from the big bad empire, and inquisitors that are all the same for multiple seasons
    2. Tcw villains were alot more threatening [cad bane literally held like 40 senate people captive im the CORE OF CORRUSANT at once] im sorry but I cant people who keep failing and getting slandered / mocked by surperiors for their failure seriously [yes thrawn was threatening but his storm troopers kept failing so really what is a leader with no competent army]
    3. The good guys always came out on top and it honestly felt like there was never a struggle // any hard obstacles all rebels felt like was a group of a couple immortal kids stealing from big bad empire but in tcw you had a good bit of jedi deaths and LOADS of clone deaths and often clones laying dead on the floor would be painfully visible which would make you view the enemy consciously or subconsciously as more of a threat because you see that their actually capable of ending the protagonists life
    4. Tcw didnt just follow the same group all the time you had a couple main groups anakin ahsoka, a couple mace windu, obi wan, padme jar jar, etc so it was alot more captivating because alongside the affirmentioned repetitive themes rebels had a repetitive cast and it just felt like every episode was the same but with the cast, theme, surroundings, and villains constantly switching every epiode felt like a new fresh thing that you werent bored of
    5. insight, in tcw we got loads of insight into how the republic and politics worked we got to learn about the problems they faced [looming bankrupcy for the cost of clones, new systems joining the seperatists, etc] but in rebels all we get to know is that the empire THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT is bad [based off a couple acts we see in the series ignoring ot ofc] all it was was a couple rebels running around like it took us forever to get insight on there base like we never learned how their leadership, financial, arsenal, etc works etc and all we get to know is how they are trying to overthrow and take over a legitimate government like how are we supposed to care about them completing there cause when we barely know the rebels values
    6. in tcw the characters are humanized [anakin and ahsoka both use the dark side // get out of character // relate with the villains multiple times] because well their human however in rebels all we get is ezra become somewhat evil because of maul for a couple episodes tcw characters feel alot more relatable / interesting because they arent this perfect group of friends who never fail and are always fighting for the good guys taking down the big bad empire like the few interesting turns the characters make in rebels arent shocking to us because we barely know them or their past // it takes us forever to but for anakin and ahsoka we know their story [from tfm and aotc ++ ahsoka comes from a strick jedi order something we all know and can grasp] so in tcw it feels like we are seeing these characters evolve and change due to the war rather than learn about this morally godly family who can never fail and barely evolve

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому

      *a lot
      Two words, not one. Think of it like this: a few, a little, a bunch, a *whole* bunch, a lot, a *whole* lot.
      Check the dictionary. "Alot" is not a word.

    • @fastburner_yt
      @fastburner_yt 3 роки тому +1

      That’s a lot of words

    • @ChextheVes4451
      @ChextheVes4451 3 роки тому +1

      Christ wasn't expecting a god damn thesis or something. Well, time to read.

    • @CollinRezac
      @CollinRezac Рік тому

      Rex, Cody Jesse and fives were also a main group

    • @CollinRezac
      @CollinRezac Рік тому

      ​@@alvallac2171shut up

  • @waterbears9874
    @waterbears9874 5 років тому +166

    “Or for the correct people out there, revenge of the sith” brilliant

  • @coolcatttttt8
    @coolcatttttt8 4 роки тому +11

    One of the best things about clone wars is the main stories had nothing to do with the larger galaxy they were new and intriguing ideas that for the most part were executed well

  • @ilo2224
    @ilo2224 5 років тому +43

    Imagine playing Umbara in Battlefront 3 on a next gen console. It's obviously gonna happen and I cant wait!

    • @poultonboys3108
      @poultonboys3108 5 років тому +5

      Isaac Slaney it would be terrifying too. I want to play it so bad.

    • @timgruning5104
      @timgruning5104 4 роки тому +1

      Damn, son that would be soooo lit.

    • @tdtv2855
      @tdtv2855 4 роки тому +1

      Ah yes battlefront the 2nd game became something great but it was cut off before it could achieve it’s peek power. Ironic it could come back from the dead, but couldn’t save itself from getting killed again.

    • @codylujan
      @codylujan 4 роки тому

      Battlefront 3 better blow buyers out of the water. No more day 1 content drought. It needs to have as much content as Battlefront 2 on day 1

    • @joebomb1019
      @joebomb1019 4 роки тому +1

      @@codylujan I would personally prefer quality over quantity there, but either way I hope its good too

  • @Ostentatiousnessness
    @Ostentatiousnessness 5 років тому +139

    “...It’s a Star Wars Legend”
    Unfortunately not one of the good Legends

    • @13crystals61
      @13crystals61 5 років тому +9

      I'll just go listen to the tragedy of Darth Plaguis the Wise.

  • @Pyro7693
    @Pyro7693 2 роки тому +7

    For me one of the big problems was the defanging of the empire. The show kept telling us that they were big, scary and seemingly invincible. Yet they kept getting their butts kicked every other episode.

  • @capnsalt7102
    @capnsalt7102 5 років тому +23

    I really want to see a show that focuses on life as an imperial during the galactic civil war. That would be awesome, what it was like to be a stormtrooper. Essentially the battle front 2 campaign but better. A show where the protagonists are Imperial troopers.

    • @Captain_Yorkie1
      @Captain_Yorkie1 4 роки тому +1

      Imagine if it was about 2 Stormtrooper brothers with one of them being killed on the death star and the Stormtrooper goes out for revenge.

    • @thegreyeyedcat9142
      @thegreyeyedcat9142 4 роки тому +1

      Captain Yorkie YT but see that would change the empire from generic nazi bad guys to an organization with real people with families and friendships, and we can’t have that now can we?

    • @Psychowarz
      @Psychowarz 4 роки тому +1

      It would be impossible if it were to be aired on TV
      Disney doesn't like to have the bad guys as protagonists if it isn't a comedy show or at least if they don't redeem and get to the good side

  • @Kryptice
    @Kryptice 4 роки тому +93

    The Clone Wars is the better animated show; not even a contest. It wasn't just the stories that were better, but also the characters were far more interesting and developed.

    • @Kryptice
      @Kryptice 3 роки тому

      @Ryan Stapleton Yeah! You can say that again.

    • @gabeb1331
      @gabeb1331 3 роки тому +1

      Not to mention the visuals

    • @Kryptice
      @Kryptice 3 роки тому

      @@gabeb1331 You can say that again.

    • @XDogeGamingX
      @XDogeGamingX 3 роки тому +1

      Far more interesting and developed? Let’s not go that far lol Rebels has some of the best characters in SW

  • @DarthHavoc1
    @DarthHavoc1 4 роки тому +17

    Remove Ezra focus on Kanan and Hera as the main charecters with Rex and Ashoka as the support cast for them and the show would be better already. Have Rex and Kanan constantly arguing for a while due to order 66 with Ashoka trying to keep the peace while fighting against Thrawn and his plans for a while then have the inquisitors show and eventually Vader and thrawn working together and looks it’s better!

  • @motor4X4kombat
    @motor4X4kombat 5 років тому +43

    "What Went Wrong With Star Wars Rebels?"
    harrison ford: i don't know, and i don't care

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 5 років тому +35

    I honestly liked it. Wasn’t perfect but it wasn’t the worse thing I’ve seen. One thing I felt the show lacked the most was arcs. I was really hoping they were going somewhere with Ezra treading the dark side with Maul. Have him go with him to fight the Empire for a time before Kanan convinces him to eventually come back to the specters.

    • @InevitableTruth247
      @InevitableTruth247 4 роки тому

      I enjoyed it too and disliked it for the same reasons as you, Ezra used the dark side of the force once when he grew older but that was it... nothing else. I feel like his anger and fear as a child would have him follow maul some more before he was directed back by kanan

  • @5000jetadam
    @5000jetadam 4 роки тому +187

    Am I the only one who thinks Rebels Aksoka looks ugly and nothing like the Clone Wars version? Facial structure and patters on her headtails are way off. Even the markings on her face is off.

    • @worlddominator7932
      @worlddominator7932 4 роки тому +46

      Yes she doesn't look at all like Ahsoka from Clone Wars. Disney just draw some random Togruta for it.

    • @thecalmclone2813
      @thecalmclone2813 4 роки тому +10

      Looks weird

    • @Fi_Sci_
      @Fi_Sci_ 4 роки тому +47

      Packers Nation I mean she was a lot older then she was in Clone Wars. Pretty sure she was in her mid 30’s, so with her age it is only natural that her headtails were more adult, not to mention her Patterns being more sharp and pronounced.
      Rebels is not my favorite style, but Ahsoka and Vader’s designs were pretty cool in my opinion, even Admiral thrawn.

    • @worlddominator7932
      @worlddominator7932 4 роки тому +9

      @yearlonggiant Surely Hera looks better than Ahsoka. They could have made Ahsoka look better, now she looks like a housewife.

    • @Fi_Sci_
      @Fi_Sci_ 4 роки тому +19

      World Dominator housewife?
      Ahsoka can’t stay young forever you know, and even though I do prefer the Clone wars style, I still admire what they were able to do with Ahsoka’s design.
      Just my opinion.
      If their was a design I didn’t particularly like it was Ezras, came off way to much as a space Aladdin in the first and second season. But once he got the buzz cut and was less of a street rat, his design was definitely better.

  • @bloodysimile4893
    @bloodysimile4893 5 років тому +15

    I would like to see the Stormtroopers be an actually threat to our heros. Even the B1 Droids who some use as comic relief, still present a threat in their greater number matching toward their certain destruction just to kill you.

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому

      *an actual threat (adjective)
      actually = adverb

  • @magicman3163
    @magicman3163 4 роки тому +21

    Wouldn’t a sequel to clone wars just be civilian Stormtroopers being lead and trained by the clones and struggle to keep their individuality unlike the clones who were allowed to paint their gear and have nicknames instead of numbers like a reverse Full metal jacket where the clones teach them to have individuality and the empire forces it away.

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 4 роки тому +6

    A big example of Disney restricting the show is when the writers set up the idea of Ezra gradually turning to the dark side of the Force, even showing him use darker methods. But Disney came in not wanting one of the main characters to have this kind of complex development and forced the writers to scrap it

  • @Plzcheese
    @Plzcheese 5 років тому +11

    I have to say you did a great job on your “Tragedy” story.
    Not cheesy. Very funny. And factual. Good job!

  • @russby3554
    @russby3554 5 років тому +25

    I never watched Rebels but the one clip that I've seen is my favorite Star Wars scene ever. The scene where Darth Vader and Ahsoka fought. It still gives me goosebumps to talk about

  • @jackattack8098
    @jackattack8098 4 роки тому +10

    Rebels had so much potential. Imagine the same plot but more mature like the mandolorian.

  • @iXSIKOBOIXi
    @iXSIKOBOIXi 4 роки тому +52

    "Or for the correct people, Revenge of the Sith"
    I like this guy

  • @deathwatch6081
    @deathwatch6081 5 років тому +12

    UA-cam video: *exists*
    Raid shadow legends: now this looks like a place for me 😳😳

  • @arzantyt2055
    @arzantyt2055 4 роки тому +23

    Rebels was like... teaking DOOM and making it family friendly

  • @dannysasser6892
    @dannysasser6892 5 років тому +44

    Starwars: Exist
    Dysney: WE CAN MAKE A FUN HAPPY KIDS SHOW OUT OF THIS!

  • @justchyll2009
    @justchyll2009 5 років тому +32

    Clone wars hit its stride and never stopped,
    Rebels took some getting used to, in fairness it wasn’t bad, at all, especially with Thrawns introduction, but you can see where they disnified it

    • @NCC1371
      @NCC1371 4 роки тому

      justchyll2009 the cons being the bendu, time travel and force fast travel.

    • @DMisigoy
      @DMisigoy 4 роки тому

      Suing for Intelligence - Time travel would’ve been great if they’d used it to then retcon TLJ away to give us a better episode 9.
      And Bendu was great. Infinitely more likable and enjoyable than the characters on Mortis.

    • @NCC1371
      @NCC1371 4 роки тому

      DMisigoy I completely disagree. Time travel has no place in Star Wars. The only way to fix Star Wars is to toss the disney trilogy into the abyss of nothingness where it belongs. Plus time travel is a cheap excuse used to bring characters back. If a show or series is based on time travel that’s one thing but introducing time travel into a series where it doesn’t belong is another. Dr who is sci-fi. Star Trek is sci-fi. Star gate is sci-fi. Star Wars is not sci-fi. While it has elements of sci-fi it is still space fantasy and should be treated as such. I hate the bendu because they portray him as a wise sage like character when he is fundamentally wrong. Star Wars has always been about destroying evil. The dark side is the imbalance in the force. If you want to analyze the bendu in a spiritual/religious context, it’s like worshiping God and the devil at the same time while claiming it’s the righteous thing to do. In the end the bendu does prove that it’s not possible to do serve both light and dark with his evil outburst but that part of the narrative could be lost on younger children in the end because they just leave it without truly showing why the bendu is wrong. Plus the bendu “too good for you and your war” attitude is insufferable. While there are times when it can be hard to see what the right moral choice can be hard to see, it doesn’t make said thing “morally grey.” I fundamentally disagree with a show made primarily for kids trying to push for muddying the waters of morality when the morals of Star Wars were clear from the beginning.
      Note: while I’m angry at what disney has done with Star Wars, this was not meant to be belligerent or condescending towards you. I strongly disagree with almost everything disney has done.

    • @DMisigoy
      @DMisigoy 4 роки тому

      Suing for Intelligence - I was mostly joking about the time travel, but I otherwise disagree with most of what you’ve said. Bendu is a great character and he didn’t muddy anything. Rushing in to fight wars isn’t morally virtuous, and suggesting that it is is an actually terrible message to send kids, but again, this show wasn’t just for kids.
      And it’s Lucasfilm, not disney. Disney didn’t clean house when they bought it. The folks in charge there are all people who were hired by George Lucas. If anything, they’ve kept Kathleen Kennedy in charge for way too long, but I’d say that based on the movies. Rebels was legitimately great.

  • @yaboypanda3871
    @yaboypanda3871 4 роки тому +15

    "Have you heard of tragedy of star war legends. Ofcourse not it's not a story that Disney would tell you"
    Literally lost my shit 😂

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому

      *Of course
      Two words, not one.

    • @lucifernazaedi
      @lucifernazaedi 3 роки тому

      @alvallac21 Are you just trying to correct everyone’s mistakes and be a troll?

  • @dennismerced5785
    @dennismerced5785 4 роки тому +34

    Never liked rebel's animation especially how all the characters seem to bobb there heads up and down when they spoke

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому +3

      *bob
      *their (possessive)
      they're = contraction of "THEY aRE"
      there: for all other uses

    • @dennismerced5785
      @dennismerced5785 4 роки тому

      @@alvallac2171 23 years old and I still can't use the right word, as for "bob" I may have fat thumbed it while typing and not realize it

  • @MistahFox
    @MistahFox 4 роки тому +8

    As Markus from Cosmonaut variety hour said, The Clone Wars was always on the verge of cancellation, it had to always try to be as good as it could be to avoid being cancelled, and had an entire era it had to redeem to the average viewer to even be accepted. And when it was going to be cancelled anyways, the writers would just have fun making the craziest most unique arcs they could without fear of reprisal because they had nothing left to lose. Rebels always had the security of Disney backing it, and being placed in the most basic and liked era of Star Wars, so it had nothing to worry about. All it had to do was play it as safe as possible, and it didn't matter how old, cliched, cheesy or bad the writing was, or how bad looking the animation was, as long as it could keep children engaged it was fine.

  • @grievetan
    @grievetan 3 роки тому +11

    Clone Wars looked more cinematic with actual war in it, with actual life lessons, while Rebels just looked like cartoon for children, where good guys would always win, and bad guys fail

  • @manz7860
    @manz7860 5 років тому +16

    Nobody:
    Disney star wars: INDESTRUCTIBLE SPACE WHALES!!!

  • @criblife767
    @criblife767 5 років тому +14

    I like rebels but it can be improved massively they just didn’t get the chance to with what they were limited to

  • @paulstephensia1412
    @paulstephensia1412 3 роки тому +6

    I prefer the Clone Wars cause they don’t limit their characters to Jedi but to the Clones inner conflicts about their purpose in the war and about their existence, also showing the conflict in separatist worlds, and the art of betrayal on both Ventress and Skywalker one was abandoned by her master to death while the other lacked support in his quest to prove his padawan’s innocence, it also shows Anakin’s inner conflicts about the Jedi order as a whole the character development in each of them is good to see and every episode is quite interesting and thrilling, the Umbaran and Anaxes arcs showed Clones as the main characters and how they persevered in each quest, every time a Clone character dies after going through a lot makes a darker side yet it still captivates the viewers the Kamino invasion the Inhibitor chips conspiracy both showed us that Clones aren’t all what we first thought they were they Kamino showed that each of them would be willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of the planet they considered home Fives tried to save the order by warning them of the chips his death scene was one of the darkest deaths yet it was also one of the most trending.

  • @EC23331
    @EC23331 5 років тому +37

    Have you ever heard of the great tragedy of King Tiger the Heavy?

    • @AgentZombie6021
      @AgentZombie6021 5 років тому +1

      King Tiger? The German Tank?

    • @untruewalrus1323
      @untruewalrus1323 5 років тому +5

      *transmission breaking in the distance*

    • @noneofyourbusiness9489
      @noneofyourbusiness9489 5 років тому +1

      Legend says it was a poorly engineered hunk of crap.

    • @BeKindToBirds
      @BeKindToBirds 5 років тому

      @@noneofyourbusiness9489 it was extremely well engineered ...as a breakthrough tank that would have adequate time to repair and refit, adequate transportation to hot zones, and sufficient time and resources to complete it's development. It did not get those things and so it suffered immensely.
      There were plenty of legitimately badly engineered war machines in WW2

    • @Darnell22100
      @Darnell22100 5 років тому +5

      It had such thick armor it could even keep its crew from dying.

  • @nathanielgrindstaff4909
    @nathanielgrindstaff4909 5 років тому +7

    Personally, I enjoyed Rebels very much, but Clone Wars is my favorite of the two. The Original Trilogy is my favorite of the movies, but for favorite characters, I became attached to the clones the most.

  • @labroslabros2038
    @labroslabros2038 3 роки тому +4

    The clone wars also had a bunch of recognizable characters that we loved and the even the new ones that were added were presented in such a way that we loved them and sympathised with them. While in rebels they just expected us to get behind so many new and restricted (by the plot limitations) characters that i personally could not get behind them all .

  • @TheEmperorsChampion964
    @TheEmperorsChampion964 5 років тому +79

    I didn't mind rebels, my favorite was the mandalorian arc. But yes I prefer dark gritty stories

    • @SWNerd
      @SWNerd 5 років тому +8

      Asger Skirata even with mandalorians it still felt lackluster. It’s not memorable unlike other episodes in the cw.

    • @TheEmperorsChampion964
      @TheEmperorsChampion964 5 років тому +3

      @@SWNerd that is true, I've been very disappointed with Disney and what they've done with star wars. Rogue one was awesome but I get the feeling like that was a one off success. I really hope that the mandalorian is good though

    • @SWNerd
      @SWNerd 5 років тому +3

      Asger Skirata rogue one was the one hit wonder of Disney. 1 amazing movie standing out from the rest of the Disney shit. Ever since then it went straight down.

    • @TheEmperorsChampion964
      @TheEmperorsChampion964 5 років тому +4

      @@SWNerd I hope the mandalorian is the second hit. They're by far they're my favorite star wars faction

    • @SWNerd
      @SWNerd 5 років тому +1

      Asger Skirata I doubt they’ll be a hit. Even if it is I doubt it’ll become the next cw

  • @nathanshkopiak9060
    @nathanshkopiak9060 5 років тому +51

    I thought overall rebels was pretty good, the clone wars was far better though, but at least rebels isn't resistance...

    • @_NeoImperia_
      @_NeoImperia_ 5 років тому +3

      @AlreadyWon the majority disagrees so yeah.

    • @youngarchivest9092
      @youngarchivest9092 5 років тому +3

      @AlreadyWon Rebels was ass. Get over it.

    • @youngarchivest9092
      @youngarchivest9092 5 років тому +2

      @AlreadyWon No shit it would be. Disney green lighted the shitty show, it would like horrible if they didn't make it canon. The should have stook with StarKiler being the founder of the Rebellion. Also broke? Really?

    • @_NeoImperia_
      @_NeoImperia_ 5 років тому +1

      @AlreadyWon why would I cry over a shitty show?
      It wasnt.
      If you think it was that's your own opinion but it's obvious that the majority disagree.

    • @captainamerica6545
      @captainamerica6545 4 роки тому

      The droid attack on the wookies the majority actually disagrees with you. It has an 83% audience approval rating on rotten tomatoes

  • @Madmonkeman
    @Madmonkeman 4 роки тому +15

    Me: Mom can we get Clone Wars?
    Mom: No we have Clone Wars at home.
    Clone Wars at home:

  • @olympianandrew7262
    @olympianandrew7262 5 років тому +66

    Look what they did to my boy Hondo and Rex :’( butchered them

    • @Random_Person.-.
      @Random_Person.-. 5 років тому +2

      How

    • @xrosswilson1793
      @xrosswilson1793 5 років тому +6

      @@Random_Person.-. fucked up the animation.

    • @zeratul____1228
      @zeratul____1228 5 років тому +3

      @@Random_Person.-. You want the long version or the short one?

    • @atomicnut1486
      @atomicnut1486 5 років тому +3

      Yoda looked awful in that animation style

    • @_NeoImperia_
      @_NeoImperia_ 5 років тому +12

      @@atomicnut1486 yoda looked like he just took a 3 days bath in ketamine

  • @andrewkessler1520
    @andrewkessler1520 4 роки тому +5

    Something else I just thought of is that Rebels was limited just to that group, but the Clone Wars could use ANYTHING from that time period

  • @alefilmes100
    @alefilmes100 4 роки тому +5

    Part of what makes Clone Wars great, is the time frame and the Jedi's. I can't stress enough how much I love Anakin, Rex, Cody,Obi Wan, Mace, Yoda and the clones as a whole

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 роки тому

      *great is (to remove superfluous comma)
      *Jedis (plural)
      Jedi's = possessive (or a contraction of "Jedi is/has")
      Apostrophes are for possession or contraction, not for pluralizing or random words that happen to end in "s."

    • @alistairmcinnes5433
      @alistairmcinnes5433 3 роки тому

      @@alvallac2171 Jedi is both singular and plural so no s is needed