Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!
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With the return of The Mandalorian season 2 to Disney+, I felt it was about time to also return to a Star Wars theory. In a previous theory, I talked about how the Jedi could be construed as an 'evil' order. Today, I'm taking that kind of idea and flipping it to talk about the Empire itself! I think The Mandalorian provides us with even more clues that the Empire may not be as wrong in it's philosophy as we thought! How? Why? Well Theorists, make sure you Baby Yoda is somewhere safe because this is about to take a turn to the dark side...
0:38 - This is referencing two different studies citing two different percentages. It is not between 31% and 58%, it is both 31% and 58% percent results from the two studies.
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They even reduced crime rate on Alderaan to zero
yeah thanks sheev!
Too soon
Yes my master
@Lord Waluigi TOO. SOON.
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I once saw “The empire did nothing wrong” written on a bathroom ceiling
@Fnaf fox Fan Why tho
Me who wrote that on the ceeling of my former school's bathroom : *Odin is with us!*
I once saw an image of a bathroom stall with "you look nice today" written on the inside of the door.
@Christian Salluce Maybe a minecraft mod that replaces Mob spawners with Toilets and all mobs are Skletons disguised as stormtroopers , with arrows being lazers and blasters as bows.
@Corn Peyton like having both a swastika, and a hammer and sickle next to each other
Fun fact, Alderaan had an extremely powerful private military, that if it had survived, would have been a huge thorn in the empires side.
Alderaan was also separatist. Granted, that could just be a 51% attack on every other political view on the planet, but at least 51% of the people voted in a separatist government and were not innocent in the Empire's eyes.
Also, Alderaan had a small population, Obi-Wan only says that "millions of voices" were silenced. It depends on how you're counting, but earth currently has billions of inhabitants.
@@jameswalker199I don't remember which episode but Cara dune mentiones a number when talking to the Chinese pilot guy.
Well then it was a good thing for the Empire that they blew Alderan up
Lets not forget in legends they beat the sith in a fist fight.
About the empire and the ewoks, I'm not sure about current canon, but in legends the ewoks and the empire were certainly not on good terms by the time the rebels got there. This one elderly ex-stormtrooper even recounts the events like a survival horror story, slowly losing more and more members of his platoon to the dreaded ewoks. In the end when he was captured, he begged for the rebels to take him instead of leaving him to the ewoks.
Yeah. They sorta ate them alivr and hjng them. Not "friendly"
Well that might explain why the stormtroopers were leaving them alone. They wanted no part of that.
I think that Ex Stormtrooper musta played too much Ewok Hunt
This is true. Ewoks were known to eat sapient beings.
They did want to cook the rebels when they first met. They probably just wanted to have chicken again.
I don’t know man..... sounds like Dark Side propaganda
Nice
Matt Pat is Sith, confirmed?
Goh
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I will not be brainwashed by matpats propaganda.
XD
In season two, mayfield says something along the lines of “It doesn’t matter who rules to these people. Empire, republic, they’re all just people taking over their homes”
Man i love that episode so much mayfield in season 2 was so good
Also Mayfield in this episode: Remembers Operation Cinder and just shoots an imperial for beeing pure evil
yes thankyou for mentioning this
It's true. Colonized countries don't care who's ruling them bad guys or good guys they just see them as invaders taking their stuff
@@edgemaxxer1573 Don't care? No wonder they don't have spines enough to defend their stuff in the first place. That's their first mistake, right there.
I think I also read somewhere that while jedi aren't allowed to have connections or communicate to friends of family after they have been "taken in for training", stormtroopers of the empire only aren't allowed to communicate to others when they are in the death star because it has to stay hidden.
I mean. The difference is that one is a military organization, the other is a religious one.
Also, Anakin went and visited his mother, remember? While the jedi teach detachment, they clearly do not force it and nobody is prohibited from leaving the order for good if they want. Anakin and his mom both wanted him to become a jedi.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel yeah, he wasnt allowed to, he was meant to stay on Naboo
@@loafstudios8811
He was supposed to stay on Naboo, because that was his assignment. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was forbidden from visiting his family, though. Granted, it certainly looks that way, but I don't think they ever explicitly mentioned it in any piece of media that's canon.
Yeah, I mean Gary even has a daughter that he brings to work with him sometimes.
Bro palpatine is just chillin in a chair, he doesn't has a luxurious life
They had slavery under the empire.. they committed genocide on geonosis to build the death star
and the wookies
Also they never beat the huts there criminals. Order i dont see.
@@wariorjimenez7306 Because taking down the mafia in a single city didn't cause any problems _whatsoever,_ much less the interstellar mafia.
I don’t see a problem
They had slavery under the republic too. Maybe not institutionalized slavery, but so widespread that nothing was really done about it.
And that's ignoring Droids which I would argue is slavery too.
Really what needs to be explored was how the CIS were the good guys in the prequel trilogy.
“I promise I won’t get all political”
Me three drinks later:
I’m wondering what is the red thing on your profile pic can you tell me?
@@nabeelfarooq3573a broken heart I think
@@pcdog7027 k thanks
@@nabeelfarooq3573 it’s a variant of the logo for Green Day’s American Idiot. A symbol for Rage and Love or something like that if I remember correctly.
@@alexandrothealright9818 nice
Also, most of the stormtroopers were relatively harmless, just doing their duty as soldiers. They’re either normal conscripted people from the Galaxy, or clones that are loyal to the empire’s cause of social order. It’s not like they’re hostile in every encounter, like pointed out with the Ewoks or how they are on Lothal in Rebels.
Yes, Stormtroopers would never do horrible things like... you know....
Murdering an entire sand crawler of jawas because they *might* have seen something.
Or burning an elderly farmer couple alive for the same reason.
You know, if you ignore all the war crimes stormtroopers do, they are basically harmless, it's true.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegelHe said most. "I was just following orders" never stopped being an excuse even in our amazing democracy and unfortunately as the video stated we need boots on the ground to keep people safe otherwise they fall victim to violent crime even more
@@BookDefender777 The point is that it doesn't matter if they are not murdering civilians *every* day, what matters is that they are all going to do it, when ordered to. And they will be, because the Empire is as evil as it gets.
"We need the stormtroopers" makes no sense, because Tattooine was still a hive of scum and villainy even with, and probably especially, with the Empire there, because they did nothing to stop crime lords like Jabba, while burning civilians alive the moment they *might* become a problem.
Tattooine looked way nicer in the prequels before the Empire took over, in fact.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel That’s not what the video said. Did you even watch it? You get any authoritarian party going on the offensive and you’ll find they end up committing some atrocities The Rebels included.
They’re not conscripted. In fact, if I remember correctly the Empire never used conscription.
My take away is this
Star wars is a war. No different from real life, there's no good guys or bad guys, there is only 2 sides fighting for control of something
@@rosealynn learning history i found that most people were colonisers to someone and the people usually fighting for their freedome are often elites that want to return to their ruling privileges. More often than not that fight for freedome ends in a worse situation than the one before ( see the soviet union & co). Even the Nazis, who were the closest we have to a truly evil regime, saw themselves as a victim and their fight to be righteous and to a degree they were right. The treaty of versailes, the occupation of the rhineland and parts of eastern germany, the marginalisation of germans in said regions and the threat that the soviet union posed to europe were all very real.
@Rosealynn even then, it can depend.
Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation.
But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.
@Rosealynn even then, it can depend.
Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation.
But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.
@@kharnthebetrayer8251why did you put that twice?
@@Thrush-flight probably Internet nbeing weird when I sent it, lol
Reminds me of a quote from Genghis Khan:
"Conquering the world on horseback is easy, it is dismounting and governing it that is difficult"
Also Hamilton the musical said wining is easy governing is harder
True that was what happened to gengesh Khan empire
What were your thoughts on Season 2 Episode 7?
The empire is like the russian federation of today and putin is seen as the ultimate leader and tsar.if you don,t believe me just look at palpatine and putin more properly,both are trying their best to bring order and peace to the galaxy and russia which the jedi,s and western leader never wanted.they are only interested in collecting resources from weak and helpless people and alien for their own personal gain and nothing else.so when the empire was fallen the native alien of their planets were being robbed,hunted,raped,murdered and their resources taken from them and that,s why the first order was form to try to bring order and peace to the galaxy by removing the republic who are the real monsters and not the first order
Counter argument; ghengis just sucked at governing and basically just delegated everything to his children and generals
"Yo dude the empire is pretty chill , maybe you can like , join it or something."
so Darth Vader is telling the truth
Underrated.
*Later Vader:* _"I LIED. As I have from the beginning..."_
[[3:32]] **shows the flag of the galactic republic when discussing the empire and shows some random monstrosity when discussing the republic**
I literally just read that in Beavis and Butthead's voices! XD
He gave an option, like he did to Obi-Wan. A censored plot is, he also gave an option to the Jedi Younglings. See My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's "School Raze".
In the Obi Wan series, you also see this regular salt-of-the-earth driver talk about how the people around there are good empire-loving folk, meaning he saw the empire as a good stabilizing force, not an oppressive threat.
I think a vital thing he forgot to mention with the Jedi that if you didnt get picked as someones padawan they forced you into child labor camps to produce food for the Jedi temple Obi-Wan was forced into one of those camps for a little while till Qui-Gon decided to train him so even the Jedi you know the good guys enforced slave labor/child labor instead of just sending the kids back to the families they stole them from which reminds me of my favorite quote involving the Jedi and Sith which I cant remember where its from "The Sith are just as bad as the Jedi they are just honest about it"
The food was for charity, not the Temple, but otherwise basically yes.
About alderann, palpatine got pretty mad when it blew up, he said that tarkin was lucky he died on the death star, I wonder what palpatine was planning on doing to tarkin if he survived
Also, alderaan had a very low population and yes, some were innocent but it was also a military target that was hosting, funding, and leading a violent rebellion. The USA nuked two entire manufacturing cities in WW2, firebombed helpless puppet countries, invaded the Middle East for decades, etc. All in the name of peace and order to minimize the loss of life. So "millions of voices silenced" on alderaan seems like the price to save an entire galaxy from further violence.
Actually wasn't Palpatine from Alderan, maybe I'm confusing it with Nabu or Corosant
@@nigelxd3735 Palpatine was from Naboo I think
@@knightofblackfyre7950 oh, nevermind then
@@eatonkuntz Alderaan had a massive population, sure is wasn’t on coruscaunt levels of population but still a lot
In Luke’s defense the Ewoks were planning to cook and eat him and his friends...
I mean.. they did invade their place, didn't they?
I mean he didn't have to drag them into the war he could of just mind trick them into letting them go and that's it
@@AndOnliCar the Ewoks were working with the Rebellion before that. A lot of them died bringing the information about the second Death Star to the Rebellion in the third movie.
@@JimBoi8437 he didn't know how to do that yet did they?????
I'm not sure lol
Yeah
would be curious to see your perspective on this after you see what life under the Empire was like in "Andor".
Andor is just Jedi propaganda
@@charlierock000 as a former actor on andor that escaped, yes, andor is indeed propaganda
Honestly I think most of the empire is still better than the republic
@@InsideYourClosetRn69agreed being a imperial storm trooper it is rebel propaganda
Andor must be the propagandistic answer of the new republic to videos such as this.
When watching the prequels, my dad was saying Anakin joining the dark side *was* binging balance to the force. For a balance you need an equal amount on each side, and there was a whole lot more Jedi than sith, the force was imbalanced, so Anakin joining the dark side and Sideous initiating order 66 equalized the amount of good and evil, there was 2 Sith and 2 Jedi compared to 2 Sith and Hundreds of Jedi.
This is the same argument my dad used...
@@kaitlynhiggins3993 Great minds think alike, either that or all dads have a hive mind
Except that's not what Balance means in relation to the Force.
That's not the way the force works lore wise unfortunately. Not to mention the fact of Survivors of Order 66 also outliving the empire. Either way the force is usually just boiled down to for the mainstreamers: "Light side is about being peaceful. Dark Side is about being angry." When Jedi Light side users move with the force like more water in a stream. While Dark Side users work more like a Dam and steal from the force. The actively draw from and diminish the force which is always a net negative.
But at the end (not counting sequels) there's only 2 jedi no sith (going down to 1 jedi when vader bites bullet.
So what you're saying is...
Winning was easy, governing's harder?
Communism moment
𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙙𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪, 𝙞 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙢𝙮 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙙.
Agreed
Cough cough (French revolution) cough cough
Mongol moment
If you’ve read the book “lost stars” it shows multiple planets exploited for all its resources, entire species put into slavery and a complete disregard for all life including their own officers while the galaxy was under imperial rule.
There's zero cohesiveness in expanded universe content honestly. One author can be brainwashed by the movie's with the propaganda that the empire is this evil malevolent force. So they'll write their stories as such. The other author can see the movies for what they are and pay more attention to create consistent narratives. I can see why Disney wanted to just throw it all out into the trash even though I completely disagree with how they did it.
@@Stiksta That's the thing. From just the movies, as it should be, he made this theory, and it fits. Not saying comics and all that shouldn't exist, but from the context of the movies all of them, Lucas, "modern Lucas" and Disney did a shitty job portraying the empire as being pure evil (in terms of how this video was able to put the theory) except for the Tarkin speech or wathever, pretty much everything was just from the movies. Long story short, my point is he has a valid point for this theory saying the good guys are the one you see thru certain point of view.
@@sonnic1995 I think the Genosha massacre and slavery stuff was remade canon? Or at least the massacre bit in a comic line.
Goh
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I mean so did most countries on earth but we don’t really talk about that
I watched the prequel for the first time a couple days ago and I couldn’t stop thinking about how anakin and emperor Palpatine we’re a textbook pairing of NPD (narcissistic personality disorder, Palpatine) and BPD. It’s cool to hear that someone officially came out and gave a anakin the bpd diagnosis because I was like this is a near textbook example of how narcissistic grooming and bpd often coincide. I wonder if the author did it on purpose or accident. Had Palpatine not groomed anakin since the day he met him, he would have turned out a lot different. As well as if the Jedi hadn’t constantly trivialized anakins emotions and experiences, they really Villianized him for existing which put him in a position that allowed the empower to swoop in. It was so hard to watch because bpd is such a stigmatized and misunderstood disorder, it’s hard to look at someone like anakin and recognize that he was really a victim since childhood as well as a villain.
Also there’s the possibility of the old Republic having the idea for the death star and wanting to create it. In the prequels we see chancellor palpatine hastily close blueprints of something that resembles the death star as anakin walks in.
I take it you missed the part then, where the Geonosians gave Dooku the plans for the Death Star in the movie before that? Yeah, Palpatine definitely ordered those plans to be made for him. They weren't some secret Republic superweapon.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel ohhhh
Forgot about that, I haven’t watched the movies in a few years
Teacher: What have you learned in this video?
Me: MatPat is a sith lord
A Sith Lord?
@@neadst Yes, the one we’ve been looking for..
DarthPat is real
That is a good thing
But is he the master, or the apprentice?
Leia: I'm on a diplomatic mission to alderan
Vader *having just watched rogue one*: 🤨
Vader: Then why are you in the Outer Rim in the opposite of the Galaxy from Alderaan?
@@m.c.martin she is taking the scenic route
Vader I know it’s sus but we can always use the truth gas to get the truth
That's one of many things that why rogue one doesn't work
Vader (in Palpatine's voice):
"How unfortunate it is that you are attempting to deceive me..."
I think the reasoning behind the sequels failiure with the empire is bc they acted like the main characters were still rebels when they weren’t
I took transformers and explained a similar take to this with the autobots and decpeticons, I really like flipping the script sometimes and showing just how evil the good side really is to show there’s more than meets the eye to a side
You don't even have to flip the narrative, look at the old IDW continuity. Many Cybertronians were constructed cold into a predetermined class system guaranteeing them zero rights and no hope. In that continuity Megatron starts the Decpeticons as a philosophical opposition movements towards the predetermined functionalist perspective.
@@russelladkins8854
Doesn't help than a certain scientist who time travelled by accident ensured history repeated itself in such a way
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Now back to work! Or your children starve tonight.
The galactic empire can offer slaves to everyone and give u the safest rules such as a free connection for ur wifi and free links to bounty hunters to catch those cheeky rebels and crushing aliens are u ready to download the galactic empire and with my code u get 0% free that’s a bargain thanks for sponsoring galactic empire
You know anle raped kid devolved that more then kid that are not
I am emperor palpatine and I approve this message
MatPat at the end: Ok guys thanks for watching this video, now before you go let me tell you about today's sponsor Sheev's Soda.
Yea guys, the empire helped make Alderaan's unemployment rate to 0%.
Though the flip side of that is that Alderaan's employment rate is also 0%
the empire also prevented over-population on Alderaan.
@@tbnrrenagade9507 also solved world hunger
@@ninjaneb9109 can’t have unemployment if you don’t have a population
@@emperorvader283 same goes for the original comment, you can't have employment either if you don't have a population
Matpat: Yo dudes the empire is pretty chill maybe you should join it or something
I think pre disney cannon displayed this a lot more. They clearly discuss the destruction of the deathstar in low orbit killed the ewoks gave them all cancer except 2 stuffed and outside the senate. The nogiri have almost identical situation and Vader legit saves as much if the species as humanly possible
Film theorys new theory: order 66 was secretly a good thing
That would be mind blowing, awesome and weird at the same time.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he did one at this point lmao
It brought balance to the force
It got rid of the non-secular branch of government controlling the rest of the government for its own religious beliefs, it absolutely was a good thing
Edit: meant non-secular, accidentally said secular
True it did bring balance
I find it hilarious that people "discover" that there are problems with the republic and the Jedi order in the prequels, when that was literally the point of the prequels.
I think it's because people irrationally hated the prequels and didn't pay attention, or they only watched them as kids and didn't pick up on all the details until they rewatch them now
It's even there in the original trilogy: Luke had to turn against the advice of his Jedi mentors in order to face his father and defeat the Sith.
And how even worse people who don't care about others, can use these relatively minor problems to create scapegoats for their own agenda.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 It's a bit more nuanced then that. Since the first time he did that he was defeated and just got in the way of his friends saving Han.
The message seems to be that your motives matter just as much as your actions. He wanted to save them because of how their pain affected him and ended badly. Luke wanted to save his father for his sake not his own and it worked out.
In comparison. While Anakin wanted to save his loved ones as well he motives and actions where just so selfish and terrible it resulted in disaster. For the galaxy as well as himself.
Yes, but the point of the prequels is that stagnating to a status quo of capitalism and ignoring the constant political and economic problems it creates and not moving forward to a better system when your technological advancement allows you to do so creates the conflicts that allow for fascism to take over.
The best way to describe the prequels is "why socialists criticize centrist liberals: the trilogy"
Emperor palpatine: the dark side of the force has abilities that some to be unnatural
Mat pat: I don’t need the force for that :)
(This is a joke I love this channel :>)
Youre actually wrong at one thing - "Tarkin" novel is canon, Tarkins invisible ship appears later in comics where it serves First Order (and is destroyed sadly)
When the client says the Empire improves every system it touches, he's not wrong. Just doesn't state who benefits from it. I wouldn't say Mimban, Kashyyyk, Lothal, Mustafar,
Geonosis, Ryloth, Mon Cala, or Mandalore where improved by the Empire so much as they improved the Empire of the backs of the inhabitants.
The Empire itself benefits, just not the locals.
What about Coruscant.
Don't forget Illum, Kamino, MonCala, Mandalore, Dantooine, Tattooine.Basically ever planet they've touched. And the fact that the Empire would send scouts looking for any force sensitive child they could to corrupt them to the Dark Side.
Sorry this theory still doesn't hold too much water. But hey its from a certain point of view.
@@bowenjudd1028 There isn't enough content from either Canon or Legends to see how the day to day for the typical Coruscant citizen post Clone Wars/Pre-Endor, though I would imagine it'd still be the same as it was before the Empire for anyone living in the lower levels. AKA Still pretty crappy.
Any "good" the Empire brought to a system was only for the best interest of the Empire itself. whether or nor the locals benefited from that was of little interest to the Empire.
Goh
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MatPat next week: The Illuminati is a necessary evil.
@Don Shrek You know it.
I mean, what did the Illuminati ever do to you
Hey guys pack that is a A dictator sympathizer
@@pestylucas7406 how about putting their symbols in movies and games of all kinds? you could legit pull together a mega theory of the movies that are connected by that symbolism. For a secret society, their symbolism has gotten so popular movies now add it in on purpose as a cheap trick to rake in viewers.
@Ba Doai no.
One of your leading sources for why the empire isn't all that bad is Grand Moff Tarkin, on of the most powerful members of the empire
and the leading sources for why the empire is bad come from rebels, whats your point?
Big brain Vader don't exits, he can't rule you or bring order to galaxy.
Big brain Vader that can rule you and bring order to the galaxy:
"The Weimar Republic was a failure!"
- MatPat probably, circa 1939
"Ooooh!"
That’s a little redundant. Circa means approximately
True though
@@rickgreenberg1872
They are referring to MatPat, as he would probably have said had he been in Germany circa 1939.
@@rickgreenberg1872 Oh wow- I think I used to know what that meant but the endless amount of "fake history' memes since then has made me forget lmao
Thanks for the refresher
You should do a theory on how much the imperial credits are worth.
That’s be nice
Oooh... I'd totally watch that!
Yus
People spread make this
ya like everyone knows the jedi are bad
Matpat putting up first order troops when talking about the empire or the republic shows you just about how much he knows about this franchise…
there was alot of scenes showing Tatooine, but Tatooine is not under the empire, its under Hutt space, and a bunch of other planets to go with it. plus the reason why the jedi didnt want anakin to be trained is because he was too old and already had attachments to his mother(which is why they take them as young children so they dont remember where they came from) and made friends with padme. the jedi have these rules because the dark side calls on negative emotions. which is why anakin turned to the darkside, because his mother was dead and he wanted to protect padme from dying as well. the jedi do it to grow the order to bring balance to the force.
Id like to point out that Luke used his "you'll get angry and use your magic" trick not to convince them to join the war, but to stop the Ewoks from killing them all. The Ewoks joined after C3PO did his dramatic reenactment of the events so far.
Was thinking the same myself. This video feels too much like Matt was wanting to make a contrarian video just to get the views.
@@Mike_Dubo Because it is
@@cryfly1 my favorite is always the "Mario is a Sociopath" Game Theory where he uses a passage from the American instructions manual saying how Bowser turned the people of the Mushroom Kingdom into blocks to say Mario's a mass murderer for smashing all the blocks you do in the game, thing is the very next paragraph in the manual not only says that breaking the blocks frees them but that the powerups you get are "gifts from the grateful mushroom people"
@@cryfly1 dude stfu atliest he has a unlike you . Plus hes human hes made so many theiries he has to go trought so many things like movies comics , games. Hes allowed to make mistakes
@@cryfly1 Well disney being evil isn’t necessarily an unpopular opinion
Jedi Requirements
Don't give into the darkness:
Okay that's fair
A clear mind:
A little tough for me but okay
No family:
Hold up
you get to use magic though
@@rockyseverino9230 and laser sticks
Mental illness:
Wait a minute -
I see this as an absolute win
if you want a family simply leave the order. Not like that is forbidden or something.
the way i see it, the Empire reduced world hunger, no jobs, crime rates, all that when they got rid of aldeeran
Reminds me of Somalia, after fighting off the government, all the factions began opposing and killing each others for control, the rebellion is no different from this.
“I’m not the only one applying real-world diagnostics to works of fiction.” Been sitting on that one for a while, eh, MatPat? Tell us how you really feel.
Like a proud fascist as everyone should
@@craiven3527 your joking right?
What does fascism have to do with it?
But that’s just a Theory
A History Movie Theory
Aaand Cut
“You’re sounding like a seperatist”
@@dislikethismusicvideoleave3421 I mean, it is. But why not comment something more meaningful?
It's Treason then
If you discount their military actions, the Speratists were better than the Republic.
Plot twist: all yootoobers are cyclons
@@docrofreborn7497 it's a bot spam
I was always on sith and empire side when I watched these videos u just made me more on their side
12:27 but MatPat, you're missing the critical second half of that Clerks scene, and that is when the roofer joins the conversation talking about the time he was offered a job by Babyface Bambino the gangster, and how he just didn't feel right doing the job, and so he referred it to a friend and the next day the Scappeli family put a hit on Bambino, killing the friend in the crossfire, and how all those contractors knew what they were risking.
(Republic) Anakin: was a slave with his mother, and is regularly being put in danger for the sake of gambling. His planet is run by crime syndicates. The republics dollar is so weak you couldn’t even use it to buy basic things. Has no real option off the planet or for a better life, except for the fact he is a Jedi.
(New Republic) Rey: spends her entire life saving up enough money to buy a single ticket off Jakku. Lives in a tent and eats bread almost exclusively. Has no public services, must know how to defend herself at all times, and must carry a weapon at all times. No real option off her planet, except that she is stumbled upon by a resistance fighter.
(Empire) Luke: Works on a farm with his family most of the time. Works part time in the city and is able to afford a speeder and, should he reach into his savings, a ticket off his planet whenever he needs. Organized crime is present on the planet, but isn’t nearly as omnipresent like with Anakin. Slavery is non existent in the average Tatooinian small business. (A solid improvement over Anakin) He has multiple options to get off the planet, such as saving up for a ticket and getting a job off planet, joining the Stormtrooper corps, joining or the Imperial Navy.
I don't want to be that person but its Rey instead of Ray
I'm surprised he didn't mention that, those are really good valid points.
Did the New Republic even own Jakku? They straight up let Kylo Ren's star destroyer hover over it and deploy troops lol.
@@nch2004 they ran the whole galaxy except for the unknown regions, where the first order was hiding out. They had a very off hands approach to running things. Basically each planet is on their own and can police themselves however they see fit, so long as they aren’t policing too hard, where the feds step in and shut it down. If you get a poorer planet (like 90% of planets outside the core worlds) they have too little resources to do anything or really have a government at all. The galactic navy was basically non-existent. The federal government was basically non-existent outside the core worlds. And even then, barely. My support for the empire is mostly a joke, but the new republic is actually the worst. Also the republic is basically imperialist.
Luke was actually brought there by Obi Wan, and yes, there was crime on Tatooine too, Jabba the Hutt ruled it. So they are not doing so well with their task, all that the Empire did was to replace one evil with another. Workers and engineers in the game of the last Jedi noted that during the Republic they were doing much better, keep in mind that the Empire / Republic had tens of millions of planets. The empire simply drove away the small bandits, and legalized slavery, began to cooperate with a major criminal sinicat. The empire is good only in management, but not in ensuring the lives of people and security. I'm not saying that they used the xenos as slaves.
In general, democracy in the Far Galaxy is rather primitive
“It was pretty good for the farmers”
Luke’s aunt and uncle:
@Deadpoppin well, until they were burned to a crisp
They were good for *human* farmers. They were real bad for non humans.
*there's a theory
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@@portobellomushroom5764 that was by boba Fett so technically not the empire
@@benshorr7980 that was by the Empire.
Although I agree that in general, the empire were the good guys, from the perspective of the mandalorians, they were definitely not. The mandalorians fought the empire not because it was the empire, but rather because they wanted independence. They wanted it since before the prequels, but never really got it. All they wanted was to govern themselves, and because of this, their homeland was massacred and their culture nearly wiped out.
To be fair, it has only been 5 years since the Empire fell. It takes time to rebuild a government and military.
Also, this came out before MatPat probably watched Andor.
Something that wasn't mentioned that is actually integral: the second Death Star was purposely made to look unfinished to trick the rebels. When the battle of endor happened the second Death Star was in fact finished, which is why they had to disable the shield and why Sidious was present in the battle station
Not finished, but the majority of its systems were online. They just delayed the completion of the superstructure in order to complete the trap.
It was planned to be finished later on.
@@AzraelThanatos yeah the weapons were what weren’t supposed to be finished but they ended up being “fully operational” the station itself wasn’t done
palpatine did have a fleet of star destroyers jump in later...
and he had tons of imperial forces capturing the rebel ground team...
and he also did seem to know the rebels were going to comme attack the death star
@@gangzhu9932 Exactly. So he lured them him tricking them into thinking the death star was still being constructed
This makes literally zero since if you remember HOW they destroyed the second Death Star. They literally went INSIDE an exhaust port that brought them to the core. You would think that if the station was actually finished or if it was made to LOOK like it was unfinished that they would at least remove the problem that destroyed the first Death Star. But no they didn’t, which indicates that it WASN’T finished.
Plus do you seriously expect me to believe that they likely would’ve finished the Death Star when the first one took 19 years to build, and that one was significantly smaller than the second one???
Star Wars: "Matpat, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!"
Matpat: "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!"
Well then you are lost.
Oh well, Hello there.
All are evil
And as Clerks points out, everyone on the second Death Star knew the risks and had to know that they were building a planet destroying non-moon.
Also, let's not forget that the reason Alderaan was destroyed was because the planet Leia said their base was on was not important enough to make a statement. It wasn't even because they believed it was a Rebel base.
Alderaan supported the Rebels. For all Tarkin knew, it was another Geonosis, and we all know how hard it was for the Republic to take those Geonosian bastards down.
Dantoine. Was actually investigated by imperials and did have a base on it. Buujt it was abandoned.
The risks aren't even relevant a naval base has always and will always be a legitimate target. The size of said base is entirely irrelevant to the question the whole idea it was a war crime is absurd.
Why did they have to know? It’s a secret. The crew and workers have no reason at all to be told what it is. And the Empire chose a highly visible Rebel base over a low visibility Rebel base. It was still due to their support of the rebellion.
@@midgetydeath Alderaan was not in open rebellion, though. If it had been, Leia wouldn't have been able to pretend that she was on a diplomatic mission.
And even with Alderaan's current government potentially planning to join the rebellion, heck, even if Alderaan HAD rebelled, this still wouldn't have justified this.
This is like, if the Senator of Texas supported rebels planning to take over the US and as a response, they nuked every single square mile of the state and then sank the entire landmass into the ocean, killing every single living being there and ensuring that nothing could ever live there, again. It's not a warranted response by any metric.
Also: the workers definitely knew what they were working on. There had already been a Deathstar and it had blown up a planet.
I always thought the quote from Vader at 9:10 mentioned ruling the galaxy... The dark side is power hungry. Consumed by their greed.
“Sure, him and his mother live in slavery but they’re getting along just fine” -MatPat 2020
what a tone deaf thing for em to say
LOL
Having a non-violent slave master is better than living in an area where a war lord might murder you and your family at any moment
MatPat: But what if space Nazis we’re ACTUALLY the good guys?!?!
I hope you don't defend prison slavery then. Which is baked into the constitution and why the prison industrial complex exists.
Outer Rim worlds: “This is outrageous it’s unfair!”
Core worlds: “Take a seat!”
Idk if ur comment is a lol or a sad thing to cry about
Alright MatPat, you win this round.....
Under the Old Republic, Naboo, which was a system so important that it had a Senate seat, only had a small starfighter corps and some royal militia as their defense force, and they had to pay for that out of pocket. Under the Empire, Tatooine, a planet so insignificant that Luke describes it as the planet that's the farthest from the center of civilization, had two Imperial-Class Star Destroyers and a large Stormtrooper garrison protecting it. Under the Republic, a crime lord like Jabba the Hutt practically ruled like a sovereign over Tatooine, but under the Empire, he can't walk around outside without a group of bounty hunters protecting him, lest the local Imperials decide to pick him up for "questioning". It goes to show the difference of how secure you can be under the Empire, as opposed to the Old Republic.
THIS. 100%. The Empire - the legitimate government of the wider galaxy - unlike its predecessor does not abandon its People. It establishes the rule of law without exception no matter where you live. The people of the Outer Rim now have free trade, the rule of law enforced by the Imperial Military, the Imperial Academies, an Imperial policing presence that means the criminal and the corrupt can no longer prey on the People. The gangsters can no longer operate with impunity. Slavery is no longer practised brazenly on Tatooine. The Imperials also establish a Sound galactic currency (the Imperial Credit) that is universally accepted currency galaxy wide. No doubt backed by a set number of Twilek females for good measure.
@@darkjediknight2923 Exactly. The leaders of the Rebels are the same senatorial aristocrats who had little problem with corporate armies and Outer Rim slavery, and they were mad because the Emperor took away their toys.
@@HolyknightVader999 Very true. With the exception of the Organas (Bail, Leia etc) who had some principles and epitomised the honour and grace of the Jedi Order, those other "Rebel" Senators are not even aristocrats of noble character, but rather a bunch of anarchists, or self serving vested interest groups who care little for the galactic populace. They were perfectly content for years to allow slavery to be practised in the open ("The Republic doesn't exist out here. We must fend for ourselves"), for the gangsters to rein free and act brazenly in the open, for levels of corruption beyond imagination, to live lavish lifestyles and hold endless debates going nowhere whilst the galaxy suffered, and indeed for an innocent Naboo system to be subject to an occupation by a Corporation! A corporation that they had no problem with holding a seat in the august Senate itself despite not being an elected representative of a galactic world! The Emperor was not a perfect being by any means - he might have brought his personal issues with the Jedi into the policy agenda too much, he might have had a soft spot for certain Moffs and big statement policies versus the Vader style meritocracy, but one thing you have to give him is he stood up to corruption, he served the People as their legitimate leader and he made it a top priority to bring Galactic Law to the entire galaxy without exception.
I've just finish the game "Star Wars Jedi : Fallen Order", in it they says that all the resources are taken to the core world and the outer worlds are mine without restreint. they even "relocate" indigenous species if they are in the way ...
On the bright side their relocating and not murdering them unless....... that was sarcasm
btw, I love Jedi Fallen Order :) Did you know there's gonna be a sequel?
"Alderaan wasn't real tarkinism" the bad guys would never lie.
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@@RoXas4878 wow that really changed my mind thank you RoXas4878
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@@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 this some trick to get your video more ad cents?
Alderaan is Aldergone
Because it was alderwrong
So now it’s alderdone
Yeah and the whole “avoid the outer rim thing” was done by both republics, however the empire put a new job opportunities on (noted several time to be backwater) planets, since there’s a flight academy at least close to mos eisley
"Yo, dudes, the empire is pretty chill, maybe you should join it or smt" - Dart Vaider and MatPat
MatPat: The empire was not bad.
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So this is how Democratic conversation ends, with thunderous outrage.
I'm kinda scared to press the link i don't want to get rick rolled
Matpat should have started and stuck with food theory because he doesn't sound like a madman in a tinfoil hat in food theory
@@jayvhoncalma3458 so pointing out that an organization that wanted order may have been right on some things and the group that wants to overthrow the system may have caused a mess is considered tin foil hat stuff? Would it have pleased you if he said that everyone should get free stuff and not have to work?
When i was a kid in the 90s , i didnt understand English, and i thought the Empire was the good guys.
Woah must have been a completely different movie
@@archosnachos4937 The rebels act like terrorists... And the empire is, just trying to keep the peace....
lol i really feel what your saying man
@Billy Oak Without Palpatine the CIS would have been based as.
@Billy Oak....
OK, so what Luke was manipulating the Ewoks into doing was not cooking and eating Han Solo. Once they heard the story the Ewoks made them part of the tribe and offered to show them a secret entrance to the shield generator. Why they chose to fight, my guess movie logic In addition we can't know how the Storm Troopers treated the indigenous beings of Endor, but Wicket immediately hid when he realized a storm trooper was nearby, not exactly the actions of a sentient being used to being "ignored' by the stationed soldiers
the vr game star wars tales of the galaxy’s“edge, imperial mission also says the same thing. “what is freedom? to walk to the store and be gunned down by gangsters over a few credits
Matpat: the mainstream movies never talk about how the empire rules
Tarkin in episode 4: the senate (democracy) has been disbanded, fear will keep them in line, and to make them even more scared to disobey us let’s destroy a planet
Goh
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Sourcing Tarkin Doctrine from outside canon is also faulty logic - canon Tarkin is committed to the Death Star (a centralised project) rather than the dispersed use of resources that Krennic advocates for with his TIE defenders
I saw this video called “Th Empire Was Right” and the guy showed the clip telling us that the senate was disbanded and power would be given to the local governor’s and that Alderaan was a suspected rebel planet and only had a population of about 2 million, which Obi Wan Kenobi confirmed.
@@reubenm.d.5218 close, but not quite... Krennic also wanted ONLY the Death Star, no other projects. Tarkin wanted to steal the Death Star project credit/command from him (which he proceeds to do in Rouge One) and so, on the surface at least, supports other projects. Thrawn was the one who thought that the Death Star was a stupid idea and was pushing for the TIE Defenders
@@JoeBjork Thanks for the clarification. You are, of course, correct
Kinda missed the part where the Empire routinely committed mass genocide, ethnic cleansing, slavery, racism against anyone not human, classism, planet wide exploitation and pollution, 1984 style surveillance, usage of secret police and death squads, And the usage of fear to maintain control.
Not saying the Empire didn’t have some good points but let’s not pretend the Empire was some sort of miss-understood Organization.
Rebel propaganda, all of it
@@darth_sidious_sheev_palpatine Jar Jar Sith would approve.
@@darth_sidious_sheev_palpatine I agree wholeheartedly
I am a human supremacist. Long live the empire.
Good thing I’m not an alien :)
All the movies never focused on those details, makes alot of sense
The amount of jobs the Death Star made alone, is just another point the empire was pretty 😎
One major thing Matt Pat didnt touch on was Luke's call to adventure was the empire vaporizing his aunt and uncle
Ben Kenobi would have definitely been extreme enough to murder Owen and Beru in order to deceive Luke into becoming his agent by destroying his family and the Jawas. the Lars Homestead looks as though it was demolished by anarchists most likely Jabba’s thugs who got mind tricked into believing the farmers never paid their water tribute
@@Charlie94781 That is just baseless speculation though
@@aidanithink4596 So you're saying it's just a theory?
They had evidence that the droids could be there
The Empire is extremely cruel and oppressive, but most often only to those suspected of rebellion
@@EGRJ A game theory
The Empire improves every land it touches: Every British colonial officer ever....
True
well it kind of did in a way. It brought modern medicine, education and infrastructure and philosophy. A lot of the stories of Aztecs being murderous war culture that eat people, which for many years people did not believe. Now archeologist and historians have proven a lot of the tall tails to be true. Like a giant wall build only out of human skulls that the Spaniards tore down. They found reminds of it under the grounds because it wasn't just extremely tall but went deep into the earth. The Spaniards could not have defeated the Aztec with out the help of the people they oppressed and ruled over as second class citizens and lambs for sacrifice. But of course this makes people who have the mind of a child angry because they think the world actually works like a star wars movie or a harry potter film, so this means one is saying that empire rule is correct. When nothing in life is so simple as a child's story.
@@amelist8123 Right, right, and that _totally_ justifies the Conquistadors slaughtering every last one of them for gold
Get over yourself
Heroes one and all
@@WickedKnightAlbel Ummm... No. I don't think Ame was justifying it. I got the impression that he/she was asking "Which evil do you find least egregious?" slash "Are you a victim of your own child-like idealism?"
P.S. Sorry for all the edits... I just realised that I have no idea whether Ame is a bloke/sheila/personal pronoun.
I’d go so far as to say the movies don’t actually give us this view. The way Mace Windu kills Jango Fett is like…not a paragon of virtue
the outer rim was being stripped by the empire. with no remorse. It this whole story is like ancient Rome, if you were a Roman, member of the empire, you were set, mostly, but if if you lived in the outskirts, you were looked at with distance, and they could do what they wanted.
This whole theory is basically “Ah yes, young man, winning was easy, governing is much harder.”
"Which is why I need to keep slaves, hamilton, I need to keep them."
found a fellow hamiltonian
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What is with all these linked comments?
@Btari k. maulana
Bots.
Matt Patt: "The outer systems got to keep their resources"
Palpatine: *Builds multiple death stars with slave labor and pillaged resources*
Didn't someone once do a video about the resources that went into building a death Star? I'm sure they mentioned that basic taxation for infrastructure couldn't have built it without some planets getting severely fucked over. ..
They said that it was private contractors. Because I’m sure building something like that would pay you well and with an entire galaxy’s worth of people and wealth. It doesn’t seem that hard
"Death star" is a derogatory slang from the Rebel propaganda. It's officially called a piece globe, And it shoots pure safety and security For the Galaxy
Matpat: also quotes EGTW, which quite literally goes over how the Empire fucks over the rim
Matpat: Also quotes lost stars which does the same
Matpat: quotes Tarkin which does the same as well
@@sebastianjoseph9628 deathstar wasnt built with contractors lmao. Wookie slaves were definitely used and certainly others.
The empire using slaves is a major part
Take Crait, for an example. Crait was a planet that was covered in salt so no one could see it, before that, Crait was overmined, so the Republic decided to cover their tracks, and hide Crait's existence.
EXACLTY
I should also mention that leía had less support for the resistance because when it was revealed that darth Vader was her father a lot of people turned their backs on her
Which is ironically the opposite of how people would have reacted other than a vocal handful. Who would have then been shocked at her being elected in a landslide victory.
"Fear will keep the local systems in line."
- your friendly, freedom loving commander of the -death- 'love & friendship' star
Well it did so he isn't wrong there.
So you're saying they should have called it the Health Star?
@Robert Allan It blowing up wasn't apart of the plan though.
Don't quote me on this, but IIRC that line that Tarkin stated that you quoted was after Tarkin had lost his son and become far more cruel in keeping order than he was before the death of his son.
@Robert Allan Hmm, I guess I'll have to explain more. Before the death of his son, he was actually well liked and didn't really beat down civilians through fear. I said what I did to state that Tarkin went off the deep end after his son died. Does it justify anything? Of fucking course not. It's rather hard to justify suppressing the people through sheer power without very good reasons (which is nigh impossible). Just stating the cause for why he did what he did.
"Only a Sith theorizes in absolutes. I will do what I must." _draws lightsaber_
Gotta wonder how it feels to be part of a thousands strong group that keeps getting curbstomped across the millennia by only two dudes.
"You will try"
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
-A Jedi dealing in absolutes
@@dontmisunderstand6041 only now have i realized that that statement was an absolute
@@craftysmithkeith3653 Have you heard of the tragedy of Darth Kenobi the feeble? He could save himself from death, but not those around him.. not even his most favored apprentice.
So I'm kinda understanding the empire feeling toward the republic. So I work in a warehouse. I hand out the equipment needed through out the day as well as other tasks. I just got promoted. So our chain of command is structured with of course the front of the house. Where they deal with customers/order issues/etc. The command structure is broken down by 1 head boss and then 2 guys under him. I'm one of the 2 now(from what I was told I was already at that spot 2 months ago). Then 4-6 supervisor that run 2-1 departments each them self. So obviously I needed training and for a point I did have to listen to them. They did everything they could to see me fail. They resisted change. Helped with nothing and never directly made effort to improve the overall cohesiveness for the worker. Even if I offered up an idea they would say then you do it. In the beginning I did but then I realized they take credit and my rank would fall. So I started saying no. They disrespected me and mainly our company. So now that I just got phased in last week I will take control and in force change to make things overall easier for everyone. I also have to watch my back cause I know they will do what they can to see me fail. It's sad that we had to go to this type of dictoratorship but really they act/are that stupid to govern themselves. Now they look at me like I'm a villain. They (the supervisor w/o a overall boss/over seer) ran it and allowed the place to go 14mill USD debt. Now I'm the bad guy. It makes me sad that they see me like that. I'm a product of there failures and I'm here to help. They see me as an asshole. I try to talk to them and work with them. They don't work with me and tell me do this or do that. Drive me to my breaking and yelling at them point to flinch. I guess one of two things are gonna happen. 1 I get demoted or 2 the company overall will do better. Time will tell. I wish we could all work together but we'll see.
Using death star was smart idea in the end.
If rebellion did not undermine power of Death Star by cheap shotting it through an exhaust port with the force (like point out a small exhaust port for a huge station amazing because that thing would of hath made a lot of exhaust back to the point) the Death star would have scared of large scale pirating or criminals from controlling a world if risk of controlling a world through crime is punish by the world be blow up would stomp almost all crime empires.
I read somewhere that hitting the exhaust port was not the cause of it blowing up it was from it over heating and melting down from trying to fire at the moon.
Well, there was a reason why the Empire was so popular in its early days; it really *did* follow up on its promises to root out the corruption and incompetence of the old Republic. And, quite frankly, I myself do genuinly believe the Empire could have had the potential to be a great force for good... IF only its sole autocrat wasn't evil incarnate and hadn't designed the Empire to be unable to function without him and his tyranny.
Not to mention the New Republic was sooooo utterly incompetent the sequels happened. They were literally to complacent and indecisive to stop the blatant rise of the more evil First Order.
Here's the thing, The Empire was run by some more effective people, but was filled incompetent and corrupt ones, while ruled by a megalomaniac emperor with grand ambitions that were more impractical than anything. Like, two death star, strip mining planets for resources and enslaving, subjugating and committing mass genocide (even before said Death Stars) were things that were just going on in the first 5 years, albeit mostly in the outer rims.
While the worst thing the New Republic did was just being the same ignorant neutral as the old republic, while giving way to the rise of the First Order. They were neither ideal nor horrendous examples as made out of. One could ask for a better regime, but definitely not the Empire or sorts.
Basically, thrawn would’ve been a better emperor
An actually non heated debate about the empirw and the republics?? Now this is something i can dig in!
Sequels? There’s no such thing as sequels!
I SAID THERES NO SEQUELS!
I'm proud of this comment section and everyone above this comment
"The Empire may be autocratic and heavy-handed in enforcing the law, but they keep the transports running."
-Some dude in the Empire.
Chad dude
I wonder how many even get that reference.
@@rhov-anion ;)
And keeps them running on time too!
And the economy going. Imperial Credits are good in Tatooine.
This isn’t a theory this is a statement
Id like to also bring up just how vicious the ewoks became after brought into the rebel war effort, in one of the books a stormtrooper talks about how they ate the stormtroopers and herded them into death traps, luke essential turns them into radical extremists
Yes, because they used to be so peaceful, killing and eating everything they find, before Luke radicalized them by... convincing them to not eat his friends. And telling them his story. He didn't even ask them for help, they just did it.
Matpat: Let's not take the Empire's promises at face value.
Also Matpat: *Takes the Empire's promises at face value*
Tarkin: I have never done anything wrong in my entire life.
Matpat: I know this, and I love you.
@@SalumarLP accurate 😂
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@@SalumarLP *TRUE!*
5:28 You guys put First Order Stormtroopers in the background instead of Imperial Stormtroopers.
Just a mistake or... something more? 🤔
Oh God conspiracy theories on a channel about conspiracy theories... conspiracyception
@@Brandon-dy8us LOL 😂
*_[hmm]_*
He must not be a true Star Wars fan(I can’t believe I have to say this, but this is a joke)
Hello there (;
Also in Star Wars, rebels are shown as being the good guys BUT in the real world, here on Earth, any kind of rebellion against a government is seen as evil and has to be ended quickly
Not really, no.
The USA literally started as a rebellion.
In fact. almost every single western country right now, has formed its current government through some kind of rebellion or another.
Rebellions in Africa and the Middle-east, places where such things still happen today, are usually very morally complex and the rebels are very rarely portrayed as flat out evil, unless they're something like ISIS.
Unless you mean: the rebels are portrayed as evil by the government they are trying to overthrow. In which case: well yeah, of course they would.
Tarkin is actually part of the canon continuity, not legends and The Guns of Kelrodo-Ai IS part of Legends, same for The Essential Guide to Warfare. Also the state of the new republic is very different depending on which continuity you look at, in legends (the continuity you claim Tarkin is part of), the republic actually ended up going really well. In canon, you could say otherwise.
This reminds me actually of the German government - starting out with the Kaiser's autocracy (the Empire), then the Weimar Republic (the Republic) followed by the Nazis (the First Order).
YES! then whatever comes after the first order would more than likely be cold war germany
I mean, that's kinda what it was based on
Clever :)
I mean stormtroopers
@@Sinaeb Yes, Stormtroopers inheriting their name from the real life Stormtroopers (SA) is just one of the direct comparisons that exist within the Star Wars universe and 20th Century Germany
Sounds to me like matpat is turning to the dark side
maybe he could join it or something
Maybe it was never the dark side
TIME TO REMOVE MATPAT FROM LIFE EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO EVDINCE BESIDES SIMPATHY OF THE DARKSIDE
Im gonna join them too
Yes.
In the end Palpatine wanted to have the power to live forever, if bringing peace to the galaxy was a side effect of this, why not?
Hey Matt, looking back on this video, I’d like to point out the various TV shows that take place during the time of the Empire. Shows like The Bad Batch, Kenobi, and Rebels show the true cruelty that the empire enforces on regular civilians.
Even though some of those came out before this video, those would be inconvenient for the contrarian opinion he wants to push, so he ignored them in true Matt style :P
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Oops, your bias is showing. They're all non-canon so including them would be like writing a biography about Blackbeard and including the events of Assassin's Creed 4.
@@derpyduck5088 Every single show he mentioned was and still is canon.