I think a Star Wars resource management game where you manager the republics politics and economic growth via a company of your choice would be interesting
If the Sith decided to economically dominated the galaxy through the megacorporations instead, then they would have won already and the Jedi will mean nothing to them because they cannot touched them without causing the economic disturbance. In fact, the Jedi might even have to be the ones defending them for the sake the peoples of the galaxy. Speaking of the Jedi, can they do what the Teutonic Order did back then? And by that, establish their own rule over a sector or space just like how the Teutonic Order established their rule over Prussia instead of joining the Republic.
Darth Vectivus kinda fit into this. He was able to avoid the Dark Side overwhelming him and turning him evil. He was an adept businessman and could've claimed galactic control through business and finances if he'd wanted to.
Because, even for Palpatine, just ruling wasn't enough. The goal was to destroy the Jedi (and, for that matter, any other Force-using groups), so that the Sith- or a Sith- held all power, unchallenged.
@@redneckgaijin You *can* absolutely annihilate Jedi in a capitalist galaxy if you hold the means of production and have the majority of interstellar trade in control. You can fund shit ton of propaganda, do sneaky shit to turn commoners against Jedi like Palpatine did via politics. However, even with sheer blunt arrogance you can still destroy the Jedi. Just say ''We will not trade with/work for those who harbor Jedi and recognize Jedi.'' Sure you'll get political backlash but you have the entire galaxy by the balls at that point. Those who deny you will do so to their own peril and you'll simply get richer by the minute.
@@whisper1421 I really wish we would get a Darth Vectivus book by James Luceno exploring that aspect, or Darth Tenebrous book as well. But with Disney owning it will have to depend on Alan making deeper insight videos instead!
When everyone who wouldn't just do what he told them to were dead, the galaxy would be peaceful and move towards the common goal. If only those damned rebels hadn't fought so hard against unity!
Peace was the one thing Palpatine absolutely did NOT want. He wanted his subjects afraid, angry, hateful, and in pain. The more conflict, the better, so long as it never had any real chance of dethroning him. The Dark Side was the source of his power (or so he saw it), and he wanted the Dark Side to be as dominant as possible.
Palpatine wanted to rule forever but I've always wondered how Palpatine planned to explain to the wider public that he doesn't die despite being so old. I mean to the public he was still just a normal man since his Sith nature was a deep secret. Perhaps use of some experimental technology and then slowly warm the people to being ruled over by a Sith? I mean he got them used to from being a benevolent dictator to brutal tyrant pretty quickly.
I think like other examples of totalitarian despots. Palpatine would have marketed himself to the Empire as a sort of god-king like many in real life and fiction have done. Hell, if Leto II could rule the Dune universe for 3,500 years, I don't see why an all powerful God-Emperor in Star Wars couldn't have done the same.
@@barbiquearea Both those franchise make no sense at all. Dune has issues with machines but living for 3500 years is just fine. Yeah that logic makes no sense.
1:30 The Rule of Two in it's current form is kinda stupid because of the self-preservation instinct prevalent in most sentient species. So you want your apprentice to be just strong enough to protect you but not strong enough to overthrow you therefore you're not going to teach him everything you know which means that when sooner of later your apprentice does manage to defeat and overthrow you by deceit or trickery that extra bit of advanced knowledge you never thought him for your own life's sake gets lost. Repeat that a few dozen times and you have Sith that can barely swing a light saber...
The only way I saw the Sith continuing for any length of time, rule of two or not, was either the dark side was taking over and partially rewriting their motivations to be more in line with it's own long term growth and survival than their own selfish desires, essentially making them a little less backstabby, or that the Sith actually went extinct very regularly and only managed to survive because of all the holocrons and dark side relics left over from before.
@@launch4 I mean selfishness and backstabbery is basically baked into the very essence of the Sith but there are less destructive ways to deal with that. E.g. they could have hierarchy based on duels i.e. if another Sith has a higher position than you and you want to take that position you challenge them to a duel, if you win you get the position, if you loose you get demoted. Obviously the light sabers would need to be dulled, else you essentially stay at square one...
I always had the belief that true Sith Lords surrender themselves to this practice. They did to their masters, and their apprentices will do it to them. But in doing so, you create a stronger Sith order. Palpatine wasn't one to absolutely adhere to it though, and evolved with the times. Hence why he prevailed over the Jedi.
Plagueis's plan for two immortal Sith lords to continuously keep each other alive could have worked if he had found an apprentice who would also become his lover. I think the only way this type of arrangement can work is if both Sith partners are invested in each other's continued survival, and one of the ways that can happen is if they are in a romantic relationship and have a strong enough bond.
I want to share this before I actually watch the video. This is what I think force sensitives want to do: Jedi are avatars of the light side of the force and try to spread peace, tranquility, and anything else we relate to the light. The sith are directly opposite. Palpatine could have ruled better, but chose to cause the most grief, despair, and pain on the widest scale possible. Hence the empire that lasted like a candle that burned way too brightly.
"Lawyers can steal more money with a briefcase than a thousand men with guns and masks." - Don Vito Corleone, The Godfather by Mario Puzo, on why he asked his adopted son Tom Hagen to become an attorney.
The malevolence was the pre death star. Didn't the malevence have fire walls manual steering or over rides back up systems the death death star had a stupid weakness to but that turned out to be deliberate sabotage . And the entire separatist movement was internally sabotaged
What if the Jedi Order was decentralised? Being a knightly order like the templars, they could have structured around a principal temple in Coruscant but with Commanderies in many important systems to widen their influence. What if the Jedi order was way more spread out in the galaxy with many monasteries, small temples, ag worlds and most importantly a direct interface with the people of the Galaxy. If they didn't centralise the ressources in one Temple, they could survive the purge more easily. Then again, it may also have led to more heresies and divergent movements.
In Legends, they did that, but then one of their apprentices went to the Dark Side, convinced a lot of other apprentices to join in, and waged brutal war on the Jedi Order (and the Republic too I guess), leaving it weakened and traumatized. As they were trying to recover from the deep wounds that conflict left, their remaining members began to disappear, victims of dark side monsters that hunted force-sensitives, and the fight to eradicate those creatures was very costly. Then the Mandalorians became a problem, and a disagreement between the wise but probably overcautious masters and the overconfident apprentices led to most of the new generation either dying in war or falling to the Dark Side, and the end result of that was that the Jedi Order was almost completely eradicated. In many ways, they never really recovered from this. There was also that one time when the Republic was reduced to only the core systems by armies of Sith that then fragmented and waged war on each other, and a bunch of Jedi went out and created space feudalism, with planets or systems being ruled by Jedi Lords that had Jedi Knights in their service, along with non-Jedi armies, and a Grand Council of Jedi Lords which appointed a Lord High Admiral to lead their military efforts. Unfortunately the Grand Council and the High Council (which was in charge of the Coruscant temple and the other part of the Order) didn't really see eye-to-eye, and their political conflict led to the rise of Sith Communism. This isn't quite what you were talking about, but it's one of my favorite periods in Star Wars history. In Canon, there were a lot of Jedi Temples scattered across the galaxy, indicating that the Order may have been less centralized in the past, but we have limited information about the history of Canon compared to Legends, so I can't say for sure when, why or how much that changed.
When they fled their loss in the Civil War, the Dark Jedi landed on Korriban and began merging with the actual Sith, taking their name, and fighting their enemies, which mostly came from beyond the Rim. Learning that these enemies were waaaaaay too powerful to defeat by themselves, they turned to the Force to seek an answer, which came in the form of "The Prophecy" about "the Chosen One" who would unite the two orders back together. And only when the two sides of the Force were reunited could the Galaxy have any hope against the terrifying outsiders from beyond the Rim. With me so far? Fast forward to Palpatine. In various books and graphic novels, it is clear that he visited Tatooine and tinkered with Shmi Skywalkers eggs, using midichlorians and his own DNA to create Anakin, whom he always called Son, and said he would die to protect, out of love for him. Because Anakin was his son. The proof that Anakin was Sith came when his eyes turned yellow, then red, which are distinct Sith characteristics which Dark Lords like Duku could never exhibit. So, Anakin was a genetic experiment to create the Chosen One. Why Shmi? Because originally, there were two royal families: one Dark and one Light. The threads are there to unravel in the early books. Of course, we know Anakin was not the Chosen One, because his share of Dark genes was too strong, but by manipulating him to have children with Padme, Palpatine created Luke Skywalker, who had the perfect balance of Dark and Light genes, so to speak. And since all of the Force Ghosts of both Dark and Light sides dwell in the remaining Force users, Luke became the perfect crucible for this blending. In the books, he repels the invasions from beyond the Rim, again and again, and fulfills his destiny. THIS is what Palpatine was after. All other machinations were just to support this one single plan.
Wait, I just realized something. They are called the "INTERgalactic banking clan" implying that they've expanded to other galaxies, but if I recall correctly, we don't really know very much at all about other galaxies. I know there's been an invading army from another galaxy, but that's about it. Now considering the banking clan is intergalactic, that somewhat confirms that there are well established, galaxy wide civilizations in other galaxies, and the banking clan has a hold on those galaxies economy too. Perhaps you(allen) can go in depth on this? If there is much information out there about it that is.
@@samueldimmock694 huh. I swear it's the most casually mentioned details that just go right over my head. I'm sure it was mentioned in episode 2 and I just forget. I'm now remembering the scene where obi-wan and I think mace windu are looking at a galaxy map and pointing to where it should be. Gonna have to go for a rewatch.
@@JustSomeDude848 I don't think it was actually mentioned in the movie, but it's part of Legends lore. In Canon, I honestly have no idea about any of this.
This is somewhat irrelevant but I feel like this type of reasoning how palpatine wanted a rule of 2 and to be immortal is the same thing of what would become darth krayts rule of one. And in retrospect i find it funny how the ancient sith didn’t like him for abandoning the rule of 2 when in reality that’s only what Sidious was trying to do his whole reign
While the Rule of Two was designed to create a more disciplined and powerful Sith Order, it only having two members at any time limited the Sith's potential for growth and stability. With only two Sith, the pool of knowledge and experience was severely restricted. Not to mention, isolated them from potential allies and followers. Unlike larger organizations (like the Jedi) that can leverage large numbers and resources, the Sith were forced to operate in secrecy and solitude. This isolation limited their ability to build influence outside of the shadows. And then there's the fact that with only two Sith at any given time, if one was killed or incapacitated, the remaining Sith would be left in a precarious position, lacking the support of a larger network. Personally I feel the Rule of Two could have worked better if Bane had added a clause where if an apprentice has learned all they can from their master, but don't believe they are strong enough to challenge their master and take their place. They should be allowed to "leave the nest" and start their own "Rule of Two" order. I think having several splinter groups following the Rule of Two could have prevented the Sith as a whole from dying out the moment both the master and apprentice have been taken out without anybody to replace them.
True. I think Krayt's Rule of One was really the most intelligent/balanced approach to Sith politics. The evolution of Sith organization feels like the religious-militant version of converting from kraterocracy to a sort of monarchy with extremely limited succession to an ordinary dictatorship, introducing more and more rules and regulations to limit infighting.
The "Rule of One" is NOT a new idea.... it has persisted through the Sith Empire of Old, Bane's Ro2, and the legacy era beyond. It has been carried by The Eternal Emperor wearing one skinsuit or another through the ages.... Vitiate, Valkorion, Tenebrous, Plaegius, Binks, Palpatine....
I'd suspect that the Rule of Two is slightly misunderstood. There may well only be two Sith, but there doesn't actually have to be so long as its a strict vertical hierarchy with every sith having no more than one master directly above them and one apprentice below. That way, any number of apprentices could betray and replace their masters without necessarily effecting the larger goals being pursued. There is still good reason to think the ideal version is still literally one pair, but that's got less to do with organizational management and more to do with how every Sith wants to achieve sole and total mastery over the whole of the dark side as the ultimate expression of personal power.
I dunno.. I recall when a master discovered his apprentice actually took on an apprentice themselves, the apprentice was ordered to kill them (e.g. Ventress or Starkiller). The idea of the flawed Rule of Two was to eliminate infighting, but if you have more than two Sith at a time, you'd run the risk of one guy's apprentice killing their master or even the master above them just to "skip a few levels" in the hierarchy. After all, they could still learn from the master on top, and even argue they're more worthy since they managed to kill the others. Your theory *would* make more sense in terms of securing organizational survival. But at the same time, when every Sith master wanted to stay on top for as long as possible, they wouldn't tolerate an apprentice preparing to double-team them. And since the master is making the rules ...
Not a dirty sock, it is a clean sock (tm). Better in almost any way than a "dead cat", you see... and far more professional. Gotta try a wool sock my grandma knitted on a recording, I think it'll do wonders.
18:19 ‘…and a grand vision beyond just eliminating the Jedi’ Surely you know the sith had this. Their vision was their own advancement and they took whatever steps to that end. Eliminating the Jedi was a means to their end, not their vision objective.
Putting a lot of money into military wouldn't be a bad idea if the military was used to something. If e.g. Palpatine used it to conquer another galaxy or the Unknown Regions then the military would pay for itself. But Palpatine was building a giant military without any plan on how to use it since there was no force in the galaxy to threaten his empire.
In the old canon, Palpatine knew about the pending intergalactic invasion through the Yuuzhan Vong even when he was still a senator, so building a giant military to prepare for this threat seems sensible. That said, I guess internal oppression is enough of a reason, too. When your plan is unchallenged control, strongmen politicians' first reaction is often increasing the budgets for police, intelligence and the military to ensure they have the tools to deal with any threat, regardless of whether it's real or paranoia.
Yoda speculated that perhaps Anikin was the one fortold who would restore balance to the Force. If the Jedi counsol usnderstood what this meant, they likely would have killed the boy at once. Before Anikin there were many Jedi and only 2 Sith. After Anikin did his thing, there were only 2 Jedi left and still only 2 Sith. Balance had been restored.
Plagues did actually most of the planing and preparation of the clone wars, he even experimentet with clonimg a species that was resistant to force suggestion (didn't work then they chose human bc creativ problem solving and easy to manipulate). Not to mention he had great influence on the inter galactic banking clan and conections to politicians, the hutts etc. Palpatine did also contribute alot though, palpatine realized, that the new sith should be involved with politics and overtake the galaxy through the senate because the jedi relied to much on the republic. Original the clone army was meant to just destroy the jedi, but palpatine suggestes that the clones should fight alongside the jedi to pull the jedi into politics and to the destroy the peacekeeper image and of course to distract them. The only thing I don't understand is why the jedi/republic never did an in depth investigation into the origin of the clone troops. Because at some point they discover that dooku indirectly is responsible for the clone army. Which should be a major red flag for them.
The one thing missing from this is that Palpatine deliberately crafted Imperial policy to be as brutal and destructive as possible in order to strengthen the Dark Side, all in aid of his own plans for immortality.
Balance in the force requires the knowledge that it is not how you fight but what you are fighting for and the character to understand that what is best for the people is also what is best for yourself. Something far far too many politicians turn around and end up as tyrants or supporting tyranny. “The Savage Curtain” Open quote. ROCK: You are the survivors. The others have run off. It would seem that evil retreats when forcibly confronted. However, you have failed to demonstrate to me any other difference between your philosophies. Your good and your evil use the same methods, achieve the same results. Do you have an explanation? KIRK: You established the methods and the goals. ROCK: For you to use as you chose. KIRK: What did you offer the others if they won? ROCK: What they wanted most. Power. KIRK: You offered me the lives of my crew. ROCK: I perceive, you have won their lives. Close quote.
No, the other sith mostly wiped themselves out. That’s why the rule of 2 became possible. The infighting and constant strife in sith society was so anemic that Bane just stepped back with a chosen apprentice and let it happen.
Sadly, modern Totalitarian governments have been voted in much like this. We saw this wirh Putin and the Duma, Mao, Pol Pot, Tito... Hitler wasn't elected in... but he was legally put into office. In all cases, optimistic promises were made. Lenin promised Peace as his first promise.... did he actually want peace or was it a mere promise of it? I think in both cases, Lenin and Palpatine wanted peace... but how they defined it is a bit murky. Because of differences in definition--they both achieved and missed the achievement. Both seeking to spread peace--but through war.
Fun fact: it was actually Darth Revan that came up with the Rule of Two. His experience as arguably the most calculating leader and Sith of his era exposed him to a lot of shortcomings of the Sith. He recorded all of his findings and reflections on the Sith in his own Sith holocron. IIRC, the official story is that Darth Bane had gotten his hands on Revan's holocron and studied from it, and not only would the Rule of Two begin after that, but it would be the last time anyone ever saw that holocron. In short, Revan created the Rule of Two, whereas Bane enacted it.
Revan made the observations that led to the Rule of Two, but Bane was the one who actually created the rule. It wasn't much of a leap from "if there are more than two Sith, the weaker ones will gang up on the stronger one, diminishing the total strength of the Sith" to "there should only be two Sith", but Revan was too busy fighting a war to make that leap.
Isn't the rule of two kind of like the CEO having the mailroom boy follow him around all day... He knows how to use The copier machine, he just doesn't know how to fix it.
If you ever played Knights of the Old republic then you would know what He was after. A Sith controlled galaxy. Pretty simple. Anything Disney is completely wrong. The rule of 2 came after the fall of the Sith Empire in order for them to lay low until Palpatine came about to enact his plan.
No rule of two Sith Master "taught the apprentice everything they knew in the hopes they would kill them" they taught what they wanted and it was up to the apprentice to learn enough to become strong enough to kill their master
Why did Palpatine keep Vader as an apprentice if he had abandonned the rule of Two? Especially if he had an immortality program running concurrently. I sense the leftovers of some form of Sith faith.
Lucas' ass could hardly write a good story but he got lucky once. It's the work of people outside of him, and the work of fans like you, that actually bring the universe to life.
This is clearly Jedi propaganda. Had Lord Sidious not been killed by terrorists and a turncoat, his projects, upon completion, would have brought a new age of intergalactic peace and prosperity. Something the Jedi couldn’t truly stand for
Nice to see that Alan is using his mike in its natural state, uncircumcised!
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Uncircumcised seems to also affect the quality too😂
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Lol.
I like how this channel can pull so much from world building instead of focusing on what the studios are doing.
Who owns a mythology?
@@anonperson3972 Disney
I remember that this was once, Generation Allen and he was Tech.
Republic the democracy loyalty is my Alan
I remember there was a Ben and a spare Ben
@@MrGoesBoomalways wondered what happened to the clones
Hello geneneration tech I am also Ben
rip tech ;(
He was after UNLIMITED POWER!!!!
I think a Star Wars resource management game where you manager the republics politics and economic growth via a company of your choice would be interesting
Damask Holdings almost sounds like BlackRock IRL.
Damask Holdings being slightly less evil.
More like the Rothschilds. Damask _was_ the bank.
Here so early Palpatine is still just a Senator 😂
If the Sith decided to economically dominated the galaxy through the megacorporations instead, then they would have won already and the Jedi will mean nothing to them because they cannot touched them without causing the economic disturbance. In fact, the Jedi might even have to be the ones defending them for the sake the peoples of the galaxy.
Speaking of the Jedi, can they do what the Teutonic Order did back then? And by that, establish their own rule over a sector or space just like how the Teutonic Order established their rule over Prussia instead of joining the Republic.
Darth Vectivus kinda fit into this.
He was able to avoid the Dark Side overwhelming him and turning him evil.
He was an adept businessman and could've claimed galactic control through business and finances if he'd wanted to.
Because, even for Palpatine, just ruling wasn't enough. The goal was to destroy the Jedi (and, for that matter, any other Force-using groups), so that the Sith- or a Sith- held all power, unchallenged.
@@redneckgaijin You *can* absolutely annihilate Jedi in a capitalist galaxy if you hold the means of production and have the majority of interstellar trade in control.
You can fund shit ton of propaganda, do sneaky shit to turn commoners against Jedi like Palpatine did via politics.
However, even with sheer blunt arrogance you can still destroy the Jedi. Just say ''We will not trade with/work for those who harbor Jedi and recognize Jedi.''
Sure you'll get political backlash but you have the entire galaxy by the balls at that point. Those who deny you will do so to their own peril and you'll simply get richer by the minute.
@@whisper1421 I really wish we would get a Darth Vectivus book by James Luceno exploring that aspect, or Darth Tenebrous book as well. But with Disney owning it will have to depend on Alan making deeper insight videos instead!
@@whisper1421 Vectivus is a fandom meme based on unironically taking a Sith sales pitch 100% seriously, not an actual thing
Palpi just wanted peace. And total galactic domination. But mostly peace.
When everyone who wouldn't just do what he told them to were dead, the galaxy would be peaceful and move towards the common goal. If only those damned rebels hadn't fought so hard against unity!
Total galactic domination for peace.
Fiery but peaceful
Peace was the one thing Palpatine absolutely did NOT want. He wanted his subjects afraid, angry, hateful, and in pain. The more conflict, the better, so long as it never had any real chance of dethroning him. The Dark Side was the source of his power (or so he saw it), and he wanted the Dark Side to be as dominant as possible.
@@redneckgaijinwell that and most likely wanted to be the force himself essentially becoming a god. World between worlds was one of his targets.
Palpatine wanted to rule forever but I've always wondered how Palpatine planned to explain to the wider public that he doesn't die despite being so old. I mean to the public he was still just a normal man since his Sith nature was a deep secret. Perhaps use of some experimental technology and then slowly warm the people to being ruled over by a Sith? I mean he got them used to from being a benevolent dictator to brutal tyrant pretty quickly.
It’s implied that weapons like the Death Star were a stop gap until he became immortal. If he did that, then no one could stop him.
I think like other examples of totalitarian despots. Palpatine would have marketed himself to the Empire as a sort of god-king like many in real life and fiction have done. Hell, if Leto II could rule the Dune universe for 3,500 years, I don't see why an all powerful God-Emperor in Star Wars couldn't have done the same.
@@barbiquearea Both those franchise make no sense at all. Dune has issues with machines but living for 3500 years is just fine. Yeah that logic makes no sense.
@@alexcardosa8079 read the machine wars.
@@alexcardosa8079it tells why the butlerian jihad happened.
0:00 Oh my god... That mic gave me a jump-scare and made me think you were making a mad-dash for demonetization.
1:30 The Rule of Two in it's current form is kinda stupid because of the self-preservation instinct prevalent in most sentient species.
So you want your apprentice to be just strong enough to protect you but not strong enough to overthrow you therefore you're not going to teach him everything you know which means that when sooner of later your apprentice does manage to defeat and overthrow you by deceit or trickery that extra bit of advanced knowledge you never thought him for your own life's sake gets lost.
Repeat that a few dozen times and you have Sith that can barely swing a light saber...
That's how I saw the prequel Jedi and Sith: Groups long past their prime and shadows of what once was due to their own arrogance and fear.
The original books did somewhat address this. He just didn’t know as much about life manipulation with the force as his master did
The only way I saw the Sith continuing for any length of time, rule of two or not, was either the dark side was taking over and partially rewriting their motivations to be more in line with it's own long term growth and survival than their own selfish desires, essentially making them a little less backstabby, or that the Sith actually went extinct very regularly and only managed to survive because of all the holocrons and dark side relics left over from before.
@@launch4 I mean selfishness and backstabbery is basically baked into the very essence of the Sith but there are less destructive ways to deal with that.
E.g. they could have hierarchy based on duels i.e. if another Sith has a higher position than you and you want to take that position you challenge them to a duel, if you win you get the position, if you loose you get demoted.
Obviously the light sabers would need to be dulled, else you essentially stay at square one...
I always had the belief that true Sith Lords surrender themselves to this practice. They did to their masters, and their apprentices will do it to them. But in doing so, you create a stronger Sith order.
Palpatine wasn't one to absolutely adhere to it though, and evolved with the times. Hence why he prevailed over the Jedi.
Plagueis's plan for two immortal Sith lords to continuously keep each other alive could have worked if he had found an apprentice who would also become his lover. I think the only way this type of arrangement can work is if both Sith partners are invested in each other's continued survival, and one of the ways that can happen is if they are in a romantic relationship and have a strong enough bond.
Yeah, but the Sith weren't great on love were they?
Dude...now we will get
Star Wars- Episode 14; Love Ain't Sith!
Remember when this happens, you caused it....
Alan’s Spanish Batman “Yo soy Batman” epic! 😂
I use a Storm Trooper sock as my pop filter. I used to wear them, but every time I did, I seemed to miss a step.
Just like stormtroopers missing shots
Well thought out thesis. Great point by point explanation of Palpatine's grand plan.
Akira Nakai at 6:10 was really cool to see not sure what RWB or Porsches have to do with Star Wars but love that guy
He was comparing him to the ship maker in Star Wars who was only contracted by the richest/most powerful
If you get rid of the dirty sock, then the dolphins win. Don’t let the dolphins win.
I want to share this before I actually watch the video. This is what I think force sensitives want to do: Jedi are avatars of the light side of the force and try to spread peace, tranquility, and anything else we relate to the light. The sith are directly opposite. Palpatine could have ruled better, but chose to cause the most grief, despair, and pain on the widest scale possible. Hence the empire that lasted like a candle that burned way too brightly.
Good to see you made it from the outer rim to the capital of Corusant the grinding has really paid off sir 💪🏼
Thanks for such an interesting vid! Good Job!!
Sidious just wanted to have some fun. Unfortunately for the galaxy he just loved being evil.
Indeed, this is in fact a clean sock.
Love your content Allen, would love to see a video on your take on the Battle of the Kuat Drive Yards post Battle of Endor.
every time he says force with that mic cover I flinch.
"Lawyers can steal more money with a briefcase than a thousand men with guns and masks." - Don Vito Corleone, The Godfather by Mario Puzo, on why he asked his adopted son Tom Hagen to become an attorney.
The malevolence was the pre death star. Didn't the malevence have fire walls manual steering or over rides back up systems the death death star had a stupid weakness to but that turned out to be deliberate sabotage . And the entire separatist movement was internally sabotaged
What if the Jedi Order was decentralised? Being a knightly order like the templars, they could have structured around a principal temple in Coruscant but with Commanderies in many important systems to widen their influence. What if the Jedi order was way more spread out in the galaxy with many monasteries, small temples, ag worlds and most importantly a direct interface with the people of the Galaxy. If they didn't centralise the ressources in one Temple, they could survive the purge more easily. Then again, it may also have led to more heresies and divergent movements.
Still i think The New Jedi Plobary Should have done this suggestion i consider it The most intelligent after The Fall Of The Old Jedi Order
In Legends, they did that, but then one of their apprentices went to the Dark Side, convinced a lot of other apprentices to join in, and waged brutal war on the Jedi Order (and the Republic too I guess), leaving it weakened and traumatized. As they were trying to recover from the deep wounds that conflict left, their remaining members began to disappear, victims of dark side monsters that hunted force-sensitives, and the fight to eradicate those creatures was very costly. Then the Mandalorians became a problem, and a disagreement between the wise but probably overcautious masters and the overconfident apprentices led to most of the new generation either dying in war or falling to the Dark Side, and the end result of that was that the Jedi Order was almost completely eradicated. In many ways, they never really recovered from this.
There was also that one time when the Republic was reduced to only the core systems by armies of Sith that then fragmented and waged war on each other, and a bunch of Jedi went out and created space feudalism, with planets or systems being ruled by Jedi Lords that had Jedi Knights in their service, along with non-Jedi armies, and a Grand Council of Jedi Lords which appointed a Lord High Admiral to lead their military efforts. Unfortunately the Grand Council and the High Council (which was in charge of the Coruscant temple and the other part of the Order) didn't really see eye-to-eye, and their political conflict led to the rise of Sith Communism. This isn't quite what you were talking about, but it's one of my favorite periods in Star Wars history.
In Canon, there were a lot of Jedi Temples scattered across the galaxy, indicating that the Order may have been less centralized in the past, but we have limited information about the history of Canon compared to Legends, so I can't say for sure when, why or how much that changed.
@@samueldimmock694 yep it did caused huge amounts of death in universe but it is an great period of lore and in general pretty good
When they fled their loss in the Civil War, the Dark Jedi landed on Korriban and began merging with the actual Sith, taking their name, and fighting their enemies, which mostly came from beyond the Rim. Learning that these enemies were waaaaaay too powerful to defeat by themselves, they turned to the Force to seek an answer, which came in the form of "The Prophecy" about "the Chosen One" who would unite the two orders back together. And only when the two sides of the Force were reunited could the Galaxy have any hope against the terrifying outsiders from beyond the Rim. With me so far?
Fast forward to Palpatine. In various books and graphic novels, it is clear that he visited Tatooine and tinkered with Shmi Skywalkers eggs, using midichlorians and his own DNA to create Anakin, whom he always called Son, and said he would die to protect, out of love for him. Because Anakin was his son. The proof that Anakin was Sith came when his eyes turned yellow, then red, which are distinct Sith characteristics which Dark Lords like Duku could never exhibit.
So, Anakin was a genetic experiment to create the Chosen One. Why Shmi? Because originally, there were two royal families: one Dark and one Light. The threads are there to unravel in the early books. Of course, we know Anakin was not the Chosen One, because his share of Dark genes was too strong, but by manipulating him to have children with Padme, Palpatine created Luke Skywalker, who had the perfect balance of Dark and Light genes, so to speak.
And since all of the Force Ghosts of both Dark and Light sides dwell in the remaining Force users, Luke became the perfect crucible for this blending. In the books, he repels the invasions from beyond the Rim, again and again, and fulfills his destiny. THIS is what Palpatine was after. All other machinations were just to support this one single plan.
At first I mistook your microphone sock for the dune sandworm popcorn bucket
Power, Unlimited Power.
You know, if Plapatine ever had kids, his kids could call him Palpapapa.
_Execute Order 69._
Nice RWB call out!
They changed alignment from chaotic evil to lawful evil.
That hello Frieeeends! reminded me of mr Khaaaaaan!
Wait, I just realized something. They are called the "INTERgalactic banking clan" implying that they've expanded to other galaxies, but if I recall correctly, we don't really know very much at all about other galaxies. I know there's been an invading army from another galaxy, but that's about it. Now considering the banking clan is intergalactic, that somewhat confirms that there are well established, galaxy wide civilizations in other galaxies, and the banking clan has a hold on those galaxies economy too. Perhaps you(allen) can go in depth on this? If there is much information out there about it that is.
There are a few tiny satellite galaxies orbiting the main one. I think the Rishi Maze is one of these, and Kamino was in a different one.
@@samueldimmock694kamino WAS in a different one? How'd it get into the main galaxy?🤔
Star wars is just a never ending hole of lore.
@@JustSomeDude848 It didn't get into the main galaxy. It was in a satellite galaxy when Obi-Wan went to it. I think. I could be wrong.
@@samueldimmock694 huh. I swear it's the most casually mentioned details that just go right over my head. I'm sure it was mentioned in episode 2 and I just forget. I'm now remembering the scene where obi-wan and I think mace windu are looking at a galaxy map and pointing to where it should be. Gonna have to go for a rewatch.
@@JustSomeDude848 I don't think it was actually mentioned in the movie, but it's part of Legends lore. In Canon, I honestly have no idea about any of this.
This is somewhat irrelevant but I feel like this type of reasoning how palpatine wanted a rule of 2 and to be immortal is the same thing of what would become darth krayts rule of one. And in retrospect i find it funny how the ancient sith didn’t like him for abandoning the rule of 2 when in reality that’s only what Sidious was trying to do his whole reign
Why is cloud ☁️ city the least revisited planet in star wars
Because everyone loves Tatooine and Hoth. Why would you ever go anywhere else?
Palpatine wanted to prepare for the upcoming invasion of the outsiders into the know galaxy
And them invade all the other galaxies
Glad u acknowledged the not so dirty sock
love the content and the scenary, but what happened to the air traffic ?? no ships ?? ;)
Alan: proper diffusion is always ugly. Might want to throw a clean sponge in there. The SPL is SPLing.
Wow a Master class. Am I sensing some comparisons here?
"Darth Sidious, like most employers" - yup
His Mic makes me feel chilly.
That’s so funny I thought it was a sock 🧦 haha 😂 you good at what you do bro 😎
While the Rule of Two was designed to create a more disciplined and powerful Sith Order, it only having two members at any time limited the Sith's potential for growth and stability. With only two Sith, the pool of knowledge and experience was severely restricted. Not to mention, isolated them from potential allies and followers. Unlike larger organizations (like the Jedi) that can leverage large numbers and resources, the Sith were forced to operate in secrecy and solitude. This isolation limited their ability to build influence outside of the shadows. And then there's the fact that with only two Sith at any given time, if one was killed or incapacitated, the remaining Sith would be left in a precarious position, lacking the support of a larger network. Personally I feel the Rule of Two could have worked better if Bane had added a clause where if an apprentice has learned all they can from their master, but don't believe they are strong enough to challenge their master and take their place. They should be allowed to "leave the nest" and start their own "Rule of Two" order. I think having several splinter groups following the Rule of Two could have prevented the Sith as a whole from dying out the moment both the master and apprentice have been taken out without anybody to replace them.
True. I think Krayt's Rule of One was really the most intelligent/balanced approach to Sith politics. The evolution of Sith organization feels like the religious-militant version of converting from kraterocracy to a sort of monarchy with extremely limited succession to an ordinary dictatorship, introducing more and more rules and regulations to limit infighting.
yo where can I pick up that professional muffle for your mic?
Well done
Good shit!!!
The "Rule of One" is NOT a new idea.... it has persisted through the Sith Empire of Old, Bane's Ro2, and the legacy era beyond. It has been carried by The Eternal Emperor wearing one skinsuit or another through the ages.... Vitiate, Valkorion, Tenebrous, Plaegius, Binks, Palpatine....
To summarize the points about Palpatine: "The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural."
Once again, God bless Andor.
I love the darth bane and plageus books
So basically the holy war between Sith and Jedi is really the Sith’s generational struggle to build intergenerational wealth?
I'd suspect that the Rule of Two is slightly misunderstood. There may well only be two Sith, but there doesn't actually have to be so long as its a strict vertical hierarchy with every sith having no more than one master directly above them and one apprentice below. That way, any number of apprentices could betray and replace their masters without necessarily effecting the larger goals being pursued.
There is still good reason to think the ideal version is still literally one pair, but that's got less to do with organizational management and more to do with how every Sith wants to achieve sole and total mastery over the whole of the dark side as the ultimate expression of personal power.
I dunno.. I recall when a master discovered his apprentice actually took on an apprentice themselves, the apprentice was ordered to kill them (e.g. Ventress or Starkiller). The idea of the flawed Rule of Two was to eliminate infighting, but if you have more than two Sith at a time, you'd run the risk of one guy's apprentice killing their master or even the master above them just to "skip a few levels" in the hierarchy. After all, they could still learn from the master on top, and even argue they're more worthy since they managed to kill the others.
Your theory *would* make more sense in terms of securing organizational survival. But at the same time, when every Sith master wanted to stay on top for as long as possible, they wouldn't tolerate an apprentice preparing to double-team them. And since the master is making the rules ...
Not a dirty sock, it is a clean sock (tm). Better in almost any way than a "dead cat", you see... and far more professional.
Gotta try a wool sock my grandma knitted on a recording, I think it'll do wonders.
18:19 ‘…and a grand vision beyond just eliminating the Jedi’
Surely you know the sith had this. Their vision was their own advancement and they took whatever steps to that end. Eliminating the Jedi was a means to their end, not their vision objective.
Good stuff
Wonder 🤔 if ewoks and droids might have been TV shows in the Star wars universe
Nah. Ewoks ate people. I don't think that would go over very well.
Sure Alf worked, but he only ate cats.
Well, aside from the dirty sock on the microphone, at least you got dressed in a halfway decent shirt for this episode. Must be laundry day.
Day 2 of asking gen tech for every Star Wars food ranked
Putting a lot of money into military wouldn't be a bad idea if the military was used to something. If e.g. Palpatine used it to conquer another galaxy or the Unknown Regions then the military would pay for itself. But Palpatine was building a giant military without any plan on how to use it since there was no force in the galaxy to threaten his empire.
Yep One Of The Greatests Plobems Of The Galactic Empire
In the old canon, Palpatine knew about the pending intergalactic invasion through the Yuuzhan Vong even when he was still a senator, so building a giant military to prepare for this threat seems sensible. That said, I guess internal oppression is enough of a reason, too. When your plan is unchallenged control, strongmen politicians' first reaction is often increasing the budgets for police, intelligence and the military to ensure they have the tools to deal with any threat, regardless of whether it's real or paranoia.
@@ddshiranui well he was an sith that explains alot of actions he took when controlling The Empire
Yoda speculated that perhaps Anikin was the one fortold who would restore balance to the Force. If the Jedi counsol usnderstood what this meant, they likely would have killed the boy at once.
Before Anikin there were many Jedi and only 2 Sith. After Anikin did his thing, there were only 2 Jedi left and still only 2 Sith. Balance had been restored.
It is a clean sock, not a dirty sock. And it works just as well and is a lot cheaper than purpose made microphone socks.
"Lets go legit." 😂😂
Plagues did actually most of the planing and preparation of the clone wars, he even experimentet with clonimg a species that was resistant to force suggestion (didn't work then they chose human bc creativ problem solving and easy to manipulate). Not to mention he had great influence on the inter galactic banking clan and conections to politicians, the hutts etc. Palpatine did also contribute alot though, palpatine realized, that the new sith should be involved with politics and overtake the galaxy through the senate because the jedi relied to much on the republic. Original the clone army was meant to just destroy the jedi, but palpatine suggestes that the clones should fight alongside the jedi to pull the jedi into politics and to the destroy the peacekeeper image and of course to distract them. The only thing I don't understand is why the jedi/republic never did an in depth investigation into the origin of the clone troops. Because at some point they discover that dooku indirectly is responsible for the clone army. Which should be a major red flag for them.
If the Intergalactic Banking Clan was a drinking game, then I’d lose
Oreos. He was just after Oreos.😅
The one thing missing from this is that Palpatine deliberately crafted Imperial policy to be as brutal and destructive as possible in order to strengthen the Dark Side, all in aid of his own plans for immortality.
Balance in the force requires the knowledge that it is not how you fight but what you are fighting for and the character to understand that what is best for the people is also what is best for yourself. Something far far too many politicians turn around and end up as tyrants or supporting tyranny.
“The Savage Curtain”
Open quote.
ROCK: You are the survivors. The others have run off. It would seem that evil retreats when forcibly confronted. However, you have failed to demonstrate to me any other difference between your philosophies. Your good and your evil use the same methods, achieve the same results. Do you have an explanation?
KIRK: You established the methods and the goals.
ROCK: For you to use as you chose.
KIRK: What did you offer the others if they won?
ROCK: What they wanted most. Power.
KIRK: You offered me the lives of my crew.
ROCK: I perceive, you have won their lives.
Close quote.
The towel pop filter is so real
ALAN YOUR LIMITER YOU FORGOT TO PUT A LIMITER OH NO HE CANT HEAR US
Lol at the microphone
Darth Bane just goes "ok, from now on, only 2 sith at a time" and all the other sith just shrugged their shoulders and said "ok i guess"
No, the other sith mostly wiped themselves out. That’s why the rule of 2 became possible. The infighting and constant strife in sith society was so anemic that Bane just stepped back with a chosen apprentice and let it happen.
Now i need the sith to teach me
Seeing Bruce Wayne talking about Starwars into a fleshlight is unexpected but much appreciated
I was wondering if the old sock thing was some kind of Sith thing.
i love how batman essentially acts like a rule of 2 sith
Sadly, modern Totalitarian governments have been voted in much like this. We saw this wirh Putin and the Duma, Mao, Pol Pot, Tito...
Hitler wasn't elected in... but he was legally put into office.
In all cases, optimistic promises were made. Lenin promised Peace as his first promise.... did he actually want peace or was it a mere promise of it? I think in both cases, Lenin and Palpatine wanted peace... but how they defined it is a bit murky. Because of differences in definition--they both achieved and missed the achievement. Both seeking to spread peace--but through war.
Fun fact: it was actually Darth Revan that came up with the Rule of Two. His experience as arguably the most calculating leader and Sith of his era exposed him to a lot of shortcomings of the Sith. He recorded all of his findings and reflections on the Sith in his own Sith holocron. IIRC, the official story is that Darth Bane had gotten his hands on Revan's holocron and studied from it, and not only would the Rule of Two begin after that, but it would be the last time anyone ever saw that holocron.
In short, Revan created the Rule of Two, whereas Bane enacted it.
Revan made the observations that led to the Rule of Two, but Bane was the one who actually created the rule. It wasn't much of a leap from "if there are more than two Sith, the weaker ones will gang up on the stronger one, diminishing the total strength of the Sith" to "there should only be two Sith", but Revan was too busy fighting a war to make that leap.
'They didn't even have a Federal reserve' hilarious if the Sith grand plan all along was implementing the Fed.
Wow, never been this early, said it was posted 21 seconds earlier. 😁
Did all Sith Lords from throughout history have that cartoonishly evil villain-accent 😂
May we should refer to him as Pappa-tine
Isn't the rule of two kind of like the CEO having the mailroom boy follow him around all day... He knows how to use The copier machine, he just doesn't know how to fix it.
I think that palpatine was preparing the galaxy for an invasion
Palpatine is the chosen one!
You mean it wasn't "power! Unlimited power!"?
Soo what happened to Damask holdings later or even after The First Order? did it fall to being owned by Rey?
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If you ever played Knights of the Old republic then you would know what He was after. A Sith controlled galaxy. Pretty simple. Anything Disney is completely wrong. The rule of 2 came after the fall of the Sith Empire in order for them to lay low until Palpatine came about to enact his plan.
Alan has a sock. Alan is an Ellf. Alan is free.
No rule of two Sith Master "taught the apprentice everything they knew in the hopes they would kill them" they taught what they wanted and it was up to the apprentice to learn enough to become strong enough to kill their master
Why did Palpatine keep Vader as an apprentice if he had abandonned the rule of Two? Especially if he had an immortality program running concurrently. I sense the leftovers of some form of Sith faith.
Robust Count: 5.
We have a new record!
The Return of the Jedi happened. and the rest was history.
I watch this entire video. My allegiance to Democracy. To the Republic. And I, am Generation Tech.
Lucas' ass could hardly write a good story but he got lucky once. It's the work of people outside of him, and the work of fans like you, that actually bring the universe to life.
This is clearly Jedi propaganda. Had Lord Sidious not been killed by terrorists and a turncoat, his projects, upon completion, would have brought a new age of intergalactic peace and prosperity. Something the Jedi couldn’t truly stand for
That looks like a sock that a 13 year old has next to his bed.